Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Virginia Robert's Rejects Ghislaine Maxwell's Summary Judgement Push (Part 7) (6/9/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to continue talking about the
- 0:07Virginia Roberts response to Glenn Maxwell's attempt to get a
- 0:12summary judgment. Number three. Defendant cannot invoke the pre litigation
- 0:18privilege because she has no claim for good faith litigation. Finally,
- 0:23defendant cannot prevail in asserting this qualified privilege because in
- 0:27order to invoke this privilege, she must have a Meredith
- 0:31claim for good faith anticipated litigation. Khalil specifically states that
- 0:36for the qualified privilege to apply, the statements must be
- 0:40made pertinent to a good faith anticipated litigation, and it
- 0:43does not protect attorneys asserting Holly Onmeridith claims unsupported in
- 0:48law and fact in violation of Council's ethical obligations. Khalil,
- 0:54twenty four and y Dot three d at seven eighteen
- 0:57seven twenty Defendant has neither Emeritis claim nor good faith
- 1:02anticipated litigation. Defendant cannot have a Emeridiths claim for good
- 1:07faith anticipation litigation against the press or Miss Roberts because
- 1:12Miss roberts reports of her sexual abuse are true. Defendant
- 1:15knows that they are true, and Defendant made a knowingly
- 1:18false statement when she called Miss Roberts a liar. Under
- 1:21these circumstances, defendant has no claim to make in good
- 1:25faith relating to either Miss Roberts's statements or their coverage
- 1:29in the press, thereby making her defamatory statements wholly outside
- 1:33the protection of this qualified privilege. At the very least,
- 1:37the issue of whether defendant has claims against the press
- 1:41on the grounds that she did not abuse Miss Roberts
- 1:44is a question of fact for the jury to decide.
- 1:47Number five. Defendant has not and cannot show that her
- 1:51defamatory statement is substantially true. Defendant's next claims that her
- 1:56press release calling Miss Roberts a liar about her past
- 1:59second abuse was somehow substantially true. Here again, this is
- 2:03a highly disputed claim on its face. To determine whether
- 2:07it's substantially true or not requires extensive fact finding, such
- 2:11as weather defendant recruited Miss Roberts as a minor child
- 2:14for sex with defendants live in boyfriend and convicted pedophile
- 2:18Jeffrey Epstein. Accordingly, some rejudgment is not appropriate. See Metre
- 2:23Sports International Limited versus Home Box Office Incorporated, twenty two
- 2:28f Dot supp Dot three D two forty two fifty
- 2:32five SDNY twenty fourteen, denying some rejudgment because it would
- 2:38require the court to decide disputed facts to determine whether
- 2:42the statement at issue was substantially true. The Silver versus
- 2:46Time Incorporated nine oh eight f one eighty four, one
- 2:50eighty seven sdn Y nineteen ninety five, denying motion for
- 2:54some rejudgment because there was a genuine issue of material
- 2:57act as to whether defamatory photo and caption were not true.
- 3:01Stating in the instant case of the Silva's contention that
- 3:05she was a reform prostitute at the time of photography
- 3:08and publication provides a rational basis upon which a FactFinder
- 3:12could conclude that the photograph was not substantially true. Additionally,
- 3:18defendant has remarkably not submitted any evidence that she did
- 3:22not recruit Miss Roberts for sex with Epstein. Nora's defendant
- 3:26offered any evidence that her role in Epstein's household was
- 3:29not to recruit girls and young women for Jeffrey Epstein. Accordingly,
- 3:34some rejudgment is inappropriate. Ce Stern versus Cosby six forty
- 3:38five f two d two fifty eight two seventy seven
- 3:42SDNY two thousand and nine, because defendant had not submitted
- 3:46any evidence to show that statement eleven is substantially true,
- 3:50her motion for some rejudgment as to statement eleven is denied. Further,
- 3:55much of the purported evidence upon which defendant relies to
- 3:59allege the truth of her defamatory statement is merely hearsay,
- 4:03including it admissible hearsay statements made by Alan Dershowitz, who
- 4:07defendant did not depose in this case and whom Miss
- 4:11Roberts has not had the opportunity to cross examine. Hearsay
- 4:15cannot establish the truth of a defamatory statement as a
- 4:18matter of law at some rejudgment Lopez versus Univision Communications Incorporated.
- 4:23Forty five f Dot two dot D three forty eight
- 4:27three fifty nine SDNY, nineteen ninety nine, denying some rejudgment
- 4:32and holding Defendant's evidence as to what they were told
- 4:35by representatives of NYU and Keene College to the extent
- 4:39offered for the truth of the matters asserted, is admissible
- 4:42hearsay and an insufficient basis upon which to grant some
- 4:46rejudgment of dismissal on the grounds that the statements were
- 4:50substantially true. Finally, Many of the facts upon which Defendant
- 4:54bases her argument that her defamatory statement was true are
- 4:58a wholly clim aimes made against Miss Roberts and the
- 5:01defamatory statement. For example, Defendant supports her contention that she
- 5:06did not recruit Miss Roberts for sex with Epstein based
- 5:08on the fact that Miss Roberts lived independently of her
- 5:11parents before meeting Epstein and Maxwell. Of course, the child
- 5:15outside the supervision of her parents makes it much more
- 5:19likely she would be recruited by defendant into sex trafficking,
- 5:23but that is for the jury to decide. The fact
- 5:26does not go to whether or not the defendant statement
- 5:29calling Miss Roberts a liar is true because Miss Roberts
- 5:32never made any claims relating to where she lived prior
- 5:35to meeting defendant. Moreover, it is immaterial with whom she
- 5:40was living. The fundamental and overarching fact remains that defendant
- 5:44recruited Miss Roberts for sex with Epstein when she was
- 5:47a minor child. Defendant next proffers Miss roberts limited high
- 5:51school enrollment and short term jobs that she held as
- 5:55evidence that she and Epstein did not abuse her. The
- 5:58logic of this position is unclear. The fact that Miss
- 6:01Roberts worked at Taco Bell for a few days hardly
- 6:04establishes she was not abused by defendant and Epstein. Indeed,
- 6:08if anything, it shows the vulnerability of Miss Roberts to
- 6:11enticements that a billionaire and is wealthy and powerful girlfriend
- 6:15could offer. In any event, what to make of such
- 6:18fact is something for the jury to consider. They are
- 6:21irrelevant for the same reason as above, Miss Roberts never
- 6:25made any claims about her studies or her prior employment. Indeed,
- 6:29neither Miss Robert's statement about being recruited by defendant as
- 6:33a child, nor defendants refusion even mentions Miss roberts lack
- 6:38of schooling or a lack of a stable home as
- 6:41a child, purported facts that have nothing to do with
- 6:44Miss roberts claims of sexual abuse against the defendant and
- 6:48nothing to do with the defendant calling Miss Roberts a
- 6:50liar for such claims, and they do not establish the
- 6:54substantial truth of the defendant statement. Tellingly, defendant sites to
- 6:59no case in any jurisdiction that even suggests otherwise. Six
- 7:04Plaintiff does not need to establish malice for her defamation claim,
- 7:08but in the event, the court rules otherwise, there is
- 7:11more than sufficient record evidence for a reasonable jury to
- 7:14determine defendant acted with actual malice. Defendants next, and again
- 7:19quite a remarkable argument is that Miss Roberts somehow will
- 7:22be unable to establish actual malice. In this case. One
- 7:27would think that a sex trafficker calling one of her
- 7:29victims a liar would be quintessential example of actual malice.
- 7:33Defendant spurious case citations and misplaced argument do not detract
- 7:38from this core effect. Though defendant does not mention the
- 7:41legal standard for actual malice until she is forty eight
- 7:45pages into her sixty eight page brief, the legal definition
- 7:48of actual malice, as defined by the United States Supreme
- 7:52Court and reiterated by the Second Circuit, should be the
- 7:55light by which all of defendants purported facts and argument
- 7:59should be viewed. Actual malice means that a statement was
- 8:02published with knowledge and the statement was false or with
- 8:06reckless disregard of whether it was false or not. Biola
- 8:10versus Disson six oh seven f appx eighteen, twenty Second
- 8:15Circuit twenty fifteen, quoting New York Times Company versus Sullivan
- 8:20three seventy six US two fifty four two eighty eighty
- 8:24four Supreme Court, eleven L. Dot ed Dot two D.
- 8:28Six eighty six, nineteen sixty four. Defendant argues that Miss
- 8:32Roberts is a limited purpose public figure, while Miss Roberts
- 8:35disputes that claim. The issue is entirely irrelevant here because
- 8:39Miss Roberts will prove at trial with overwhelming evidence that
- 8:43Defendant mad hers statement calling Miss Roberts a liar with malice,
- 8:47fully knowing as a sex trafficker, that it was false.
- 8:51Put another way, defendant knew that Miss Roberts was telling
- 8:54the truth when she described how defendant recruited her for
- 8:58sex as an underage girl and n and sexually traffickedor
- 9:01with her then boyfriend, Jeffrey Epstein. The Second Circuit instructs
- 9:06that on a motion for some rejudgment, a court cannot
- 9:09try issues of fact. It can only determine whether there
- 9:12are issues to be tried. If, as to the issue
- 9:15on which some rejudgment is sought, there is any evidence
- 9:18in the record from any source from which a reasonable
- 9:21inference could be drawn in favor of the non moving party,
- 9:25some rejudgment is improper. Chambers versus TRM Copy Centers Corporation
- 9:31forty three f Dot three D twenty nine thirty seven,
- 9:35Second Circuit, nineteen ninety four. As the moving party, Defendants
- 9:40have the burden of demonstrating an absence of clear and
- 9:43convincing evidence substantiating Plaintiff's claims. The soul versus Knoedler Gallery LLC.
- 9:49One thirty nine F Dot supp Dot three D six
- 9:53eighteen six forty sdn Y twenty fifteen. Citing Chambers, defendant
- 9:58fails demeter burden of demonstrating an absence of clear and
- 10:02convincing evidence substantiating Miss Roberts' claims that defendant acted with
- 10:07actual malice. Miss Roberts will easily be able to meet
- 10:11any trial burden of clear and convincing evidence of actual
- 10:14malice telling Lee, defendant does not even attempt to address
- 10:18the documentary evidence nor the testimonial evidence showing she was
- 10:22a recruiter of girls for Epstein as shown above, far
- 10:27beyond showing that a reasonable inference could be drawn in
- 10:30her favor, which is all that is required at this
- 10:33point to defeat defendant's motion. Miss Roberts will easily be
- 10:37able to meet her trial burden of clear and convincing
- 10:40evidence of actual malice. Of course, a plaintiff need only
- 10:43show actual malice on the part of a defendant if
- 10:46that plaintiff is a public figure or a limited public figure,
- 10:50which Miss Roberts is not, As explained Infra. All right,
- 10:55we're going to wrap up right there, and in the
- 10:57next episode we're going to pick up where we left
- 10:59off with Part seven. The court need not reached the
- 11:03issue at this time of whether Miss Roberts is a
- 11:06limited purpose public figure. All of the information that goes
- 11:09with this episode can be found in the description box.