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ONLY BOMBS! 25: Trevor Ray aka R.C. Prodigy · Only Bombs! Comedy Podcast

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  All right, cool, cool, man. Hell yeah, dude.
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  How you doing, man? I'm fucking great. How are
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  you? Oh, good, dude. Happy to have you on, man.
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  How's everything been? Bro, life's been awesome.
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  I can't lie. I've been here for four months now,
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  moving here from Chicago to Austin, 16 -hour
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  drive. Chicago? Yes, sir. Jesus, dude, it gets
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  cold up there, man. Dude, it's like, it's kind
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  of ridiculous. We hit that negative 30 -degree
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  threshold last year. Yeah? So Great Lakes, right?
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  Or is that like? Oh, yeah, you got, yeah, yeah,
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  Michigan rate rate going through the city. So,
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  I mean, I love going to the state of Michigan,
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  too. I like the state of Michigan side of New
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  of the lake better than Chicago side of the lake.
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  Yeah. Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. Last time I was up
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  that way was back in 08 for basic. That's where
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  the Navy basic training was. Oh, shit. Yeah.
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  And so it was during December. So I never experienced
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  this because I'm from Louisiana. So we don't
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  have the, you know, the, the cold and my eyelids
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  were like getting like, like frozen from like
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  my tears. You ever experienced that or are you
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  just good to go? I don't know. I was a hockey
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  player. So like, oh no shit. Yeah. 14 years I
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  played hockey. Dude. And so I don't really think
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  like I got, it was bad like that. The one thing
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  that really gets me is when the tips of your
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  fingers or the tips of your toes are cold, there's
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  no undoing it. Really? Yeah. Man, dude. That's
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  crazy, man. I always wanted to play hockey. Yeah,
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  I love it. Yeah, you love it? I think, unfortunately,
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  I think I like it more than anything else. Yeah.
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  That and music, it's right there. But it's just
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  like, there's other things I'm good at that I
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  like. I feel like if I liked as much as hockey,
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  I would have gone farther. Yeah. Does that make
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  sense? Man, it makes me want to know. I don't
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  know if this question is going to come off kind
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  of weird, but like, so like, what is a common
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  misconception of hockey? That people just don't
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  get right like every time you hear it. I think
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  That it's that it's not the heart like I think
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  it's the hardest sport like I think like that's
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  that's what I think I think like a misconception
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  is like You the hockey players aren't that good
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  of athletes like because they're on skates like
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  they're like, oh, it's like, you know what I
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  mean? but I feel like hockey players are the
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  most versatile athletes. Like I go to, like if
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  I put my hockey team to like baseball, basketball,
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  football, like just all of them, none of them
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  would look out of place anywhere else. You know
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  what I mean? But if you take a bunch of football
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  players, basketball players, baseball players
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  and put them on the ice, what percentage of them
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  are going to look out of place? Even if they
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  can skate, they're still going to be like clearly,
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  you know, Yeah, man, that's it is insane. Do
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  you like whenever I watch hockey? I think for
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  like the first two I guess you call them quarters,
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  right? Not periods periods for the like oh, oh,
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  that's right. I don't know shit about hockey
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  I'm just I'm just throwing it out there. But
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  like but I think for like the first two I guess
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  periods I'm like I'm watching it. I'm like dude
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  where the fuck is the puck? I don't even know
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  where it's at. That is fast. Yeah, it is fast
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  So like as a player, how do you keep up with
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  it? Well, I guess you get pattern recognition.
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  Like it's like you are, you're coached more in
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  the what is going to happen next ratio of hockey
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  than you are actually in skill in most places,
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  because every place does the same eight drills
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  or 10 drills. So if you're doing the same things
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  over and over again, you get really good at just
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  that. The great players understand they have
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  to play for so many different coaches in a lifetime
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  because different coaches teach different things.
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  Wow. Oh, dude, that's really interesting, man.
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  Like I said, I have no experience in it. I know
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  that something crazy is Louisiana used to have
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  a, or New Orleans used to have a hockey team.
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  I don't know if they still do, but I was like,
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  how are you gonna have a hockey team in a place
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  with no ice, ever? But no, man, that's pretty
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  fucking cool. How big of a part did hockey play
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  in your life? You said you played 14 years? I
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  think it changed everything about the character
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  of who I am. Wow. That's profound. Yeah. I was
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  like a class clown, little dickhead, that probably
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  had too good of a memory. So I would just remember,
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  memorization tests in middle school, elementary
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  school, whatever, bro, I was never studying,
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  I would never do my homework, and I'd be like,
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  what about I got 100 on the test? Who cares?
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  You know what I mean? And then I would say, Also,
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  I would just yell at the teacher like genuinely
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  and like they'd be like they call my mom and
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  they'd be like You're like he's out of turn and
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  then whatever and then I'd be like, but mom I
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  have straight A's like how can you be mad? Oh,
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  wow. How can you be mad like? Oh, no, like I
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  hadn't get kicked out of school. I'm not getting
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  suspended Oh, no, I'm disrupting class every
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  so often. Like what's the problem? Mm -hmm And
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  then the second I've started playing hockey there
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  was something that could be taken away. Oh You
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  know like it was like I loved it so much. So
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  my mom was like if you Fuck up in school, you're
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  not gonna play hockey anymore And the second
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  that became a thing, instant change in character,
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  instant. Like it was like, yeah, I'm like, all
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  right, now I'm just going to mind my business.
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  Maybe I make one joke per class. Oh, OK. And
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  I was like super limiting. And I was like, bro,
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  I'll never push the threshold ever again. Because
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  it's like, I need this. I know how lucky I was
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  to be able to have my parents to be in a financial
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  position to allow me to play hockey. So I know
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  how, like, I understood that at a young age.
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  Wow. Damn, dude, that's pretty awesome. Do you
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  have a favorite hockey movie or something? Probably
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  goon goon is good man. Yeah Sean is that Sean
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  William Scott? Yeah. Yeah, it's a good movie.
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  That is a good movie I'm not a bit. I'll tell
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  you the most overrated hockey movie of all time
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  though. What's that? Slapshot that shit is so
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  mad. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen Slapshot
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  in a long time now Yeah, my dad hyped it up like
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  because it's a rated -R movie like it was like
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  this shit that I had to see when I'm older right
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  and I was like bro like Just let me see it. It
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  can't be that crazy. Like it can't be that much
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  worse than then goon. You know what I mean? I'm
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  like, let's be real and he's like no not like
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  this is a real rated -r movie like it's a real
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  and I saw I was always like, oh my god I got
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  to see this and then I took a flight to North
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  Carolina to go play and actually in a basketball
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  camp Oh, wow, and I'm on the flight watching
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  a slap shot. Like this is the moment and it was
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  so not good I was on entertained like 50 minutes
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  in and I was like Like I kept on waiting like
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  giving it the benefit of doubt like oh the good
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  parts gonna come like it's like Whatever my dad
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  is like because my dad and I see the world in
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  a really similar way So you feel like usually
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  I take his opinion pretty highly. I'm like this
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  shit's probably fire and I Think my favorite
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  I think my favorite hockey movie aside from like
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  the Mighty Ducks or something like that, you
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  know would probably be a miracle So good. Okay.
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  You do like that one? So good. I've been begging
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  my friend to let me put them on because people
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  are like, you want to play a hockey movie? Of
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  course you do. I'm like, it's not about hockey,
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  bro. No. Miracle is like one of those ones. Dude,
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  I'm so happy that you say that, especially like
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  being an experienced hockey player. Cause my
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  girlfriend, I've been trying to tell her, I'm
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  like, dude, you've just got to watch Miracle.
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  There's so much more to it. than hockey. I was
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  like, dude, you got the Cold War going on. We're
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  fighting the Soviets. And these are like the
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  last like collegiate all -stars that we had,
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  you know? And oh my gosh, it's such a fucking
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  amazing movie. You know what makes me like that
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  movie so much? What's that? For me, like, I always
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  say this. I've said this a lot of time on my
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  show. I look at life like a coach. because that's
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  at my core what I am. I want to be a hockey coach.
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  I want to be a basketball coach. I want to coach
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  a sport, like anything. Like if my son says he's
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  playing football, I'm going to try to coach the
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  special teams. Like I want to be in a position
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  where I could coach something. I love it. And
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  the coaching clinic that was put on, I can't
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  remember his name right now, but by the head
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  coach of Team USA in Miracle is one of the most
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  beautiful displays in the history of any movie.
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  Alright, I know again Again, like oh my god when
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  he walks in the locker room when the guys got
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  his arm fucked up He's like what the fuck you've
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  got your pads off for Right. He's like, we still
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  play. He's like, are you a hockey player? Yeah.
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  He said, you're not no fucking hockey player.
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  And he just walked, the dude just freaks out.
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  He's like, I'll play without my arm. And he's
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  like, that'll get him riled up. That'll get him
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  riled up. I was like, yeah. I know, dude. That
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  shit, just like that alone gets you riled up
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  because you're like, oh man, this is fucking,
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  like, dude, this is bad ass. Then you get that
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  whole slang of like, I'd run through a wall for
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  that guy. You finally understand. Yeah. Herb,
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  I think his name was Herb. I think you're right.
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  Yeah. Something else. I heard something. He looks
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  like, He looks like this old Bruins player that
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  like was retired, but he's it's not him But he
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  looks kind of like him. I can't remember his
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  name right now either. I'm I don't know I'm blinking
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  but yeah, you look Johnny Busek, maybe I don't
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  know he looks just like the guy and I'm like,
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  bro It's kind of fun like funny cuz it's not
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  him. Yeah, I saw there's also a documentary on
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  Netflix about that team Yeah, and everything
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  and the documentary is just as fucking good It's
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  like it just it gets you fired up, you know,
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  and I wouldn't say that I am a hockey fan because
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  I don't know anything about hockey, but there
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  is something about just, like just about it.
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  You know what I mean? That's just, it just seems
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  pretty fucking bad. I just think it's respected.
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  Respected. Okay. Yeah. I just don't think anybody
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  thinks hockey is easy. Like there's nobody that's
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  like, dude, they're just skating 30 mile an hour
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  and blocking a rubber puck off their body. Oh
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  no. Like, no, right. Even saying it out loud,
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  you're like, that sounds. Difficult then you
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  get fucking hit exactly, you know, I saw a picture
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  once I've liked I guess it was like the 1800s
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  or something like that But they showed like hockey
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  players from back then when they played with
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  like no masks No pads and they were like all
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  scarred and fucked up. I was like, bro. Holy
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  shit, man Well, I worked at a rink for years
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  too. Oh really right drove the Zamboni you drove
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  the Zamboni Best job ever, I'm not gonna lie.
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  Highly recommend. Yeah, just like super slow.
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  Yeah, you listen to music or podcast. Hell yeah,
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  dude. Yeah, that was chillin', bro. I'm not gonna
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  lie, like, I think of any job I've ever worked,
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  that's still my favorite job. Sure. Because I
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  was making decent money, like I was making like,
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  I don't know, like $18 an hour, $17 .50 or something,
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  but I was literally working for 30 minutes out
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  of every hour, or 20 minutes out of every hour.
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  Yeah, so I do like 10 minutes of cutting 10 minutes
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  of shoveling and Then I'd be off the clock for
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  40 minutes, but getting paid and then just waiting
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  for my timer to go off Oh, wow, man. That's cool.
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  Literally But definitely it made it a lot easier
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  to run music like because I was always writing
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  I had so much time Yeah, and that's also you're
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  saying right that you write music and everything.
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  What kind of music do you write? But I'd be rapping
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  but I'm trying to really expand I'm trying to
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  be able to make like anything the problem is
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  I can't sing Okay, like I don't think I'm the
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  worst singer in the world, but I definitely don't
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  think I'm like a Reason you listen to a song
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  is because of my voice I think I'm pretty good
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  at writing lyrics pretty good at writing for
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  like different types like types of styles Mm
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  -hmm. I just made a song recently that should
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  be coming out soon That I wrote the whole song,
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  but it's with a feature So I wrote his verse,
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  I wrote my verse, and him and I both sing on
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  the hook. And to hear that come to life, because
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  I feel like I used him kind of like an instrument,
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  you know what I mean? I'm like, I know his voice
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  can carry this in a different way than I can.
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  So I can write it to that thought process, instead
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  of writing from like, I'm going to make this
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  hard bar here. I'm making an instrument in the
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  song, basically. Oh, yeah. Man, that's cool,
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  dude. How long have you been like? Into like
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  music and rap and things like that. So I got
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  into it late, but I've been doing it for about
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  eight years now I uh, I didn't start listening
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  to hip -hop music at all until I was a junior
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  in high school Because my dad instilled in me
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  at a young age that music isn't music if it was
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  played with if it isn't played with real instruments
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  Oh, really? Yeah, like he was like I'm like,
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  uh, he was always like a hippie band type of
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  guy like that. Okay, grateful dad and fish So
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  he was like I was about to say fish. I love fish
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  fish goes hard. Sure. Yeah, they do Yeah, so
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  I grew up jamming fish. I would be like playing
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  kill double falls at nine You know what? I mean,
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  like that was that was my shit. Yeah, um joy
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  ocelot Shout out to fish fish goes hard. Yeah.
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  Oh, yeah fish but uh But uh, I don't know I think
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  that when I met this kid and I'll actually Say
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  his name. I think he's got a big reason for why.
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  I mean, I'm not friends with him anymore, but
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  Chris Hoiner. Like, I met him at the academy
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  I went to in high school. And he was like a goofy
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  -ass kid walking around telling everybody he's
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  a rapper, and he made hyperpop. Hyperpop. And
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  that's a crazy genre of music. Like, the amount
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  of editing and engineering. I have so much, like...
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  Let me write that down. Hyperpop. Hyperpop, yeah,
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  I've never even heard of that. Yeah, you've definitely
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  heard this style before and didn't know that
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  that's what it was called. But it's like, it's
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  not like, I don't even know how to compare it
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  to a rapper, but it's like, imagine if you took
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  Lil Uzi another step farther down the like, what's
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  the word for like alternative? Like you make
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  Lil Uzi more alternative, you get hyperpop. But
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  he's like still rapping, if he wasn't rapping
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  and it was just like. You know a little faster.
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  I guess like that's basically hyper pop interesting
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  because it's like auto -tune exaggerated voice
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  vocals with like sound effects and shit It's
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  like video game music is hyper pop I'd guess
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  yeah, okay. Yeah, that's really interesting,
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  but he was big on like Like actually going in
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  the studio, and then I was like holy shit I could
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  take a class where they just teach me how to
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  work studio equipment like that's dope mm -hmm
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  So I was like in there, and then they were like
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  yo, bro You ever try to write your own shit,
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  and I'm like No? What are you talking about?
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  He's like, bro, you gotta try that shit. So we
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  would freestyle, and I would say the wildest,
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  like, dogshit bars. But like, I was saying shit
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  I can't repeat on the show. Like, I was just
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  saying wild shit. Like, joking with your friends,
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  you know? Like, just talking shit. And everybody
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  was like, you know, I fell in love with it, and
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  it went from just, like, trading bars of, like,
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  all of us sucking to, like, eventually me, like,
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  gaining, like, getting good at it. And it was
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  like... I'm doing a show for everybody else now.
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  It's not like we're passing it around. And then
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  I was like, holy shit, I'm actually decent at
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  this. This isn't just something we're doing when
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  we're high. I'm actually like... Yeah, you're
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  enjoying this and everything. Yeah, I'm like,
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  this is the only thing I'm doing now. I used
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  to work at a pizza place. I'd be delivering pizzas
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  and I'd have my group chat that I made during
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  COVID on FaceTime doing freestyle ciphers over
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  the internet. And people that lived all across
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  the country. That's what this group raw creatives
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  here is I bro literally all this shit started
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  from you boat Omegle FaceTime audio calls like
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  just join a discord and you join up and you'd
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  be like yo, where y 'all at? Oh, dude. I'm at
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  work right now, but shit I'll spit a 16. I'll
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  spit a 16 I bet play a beat play a beat motherfucker
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  puts a beat on he hits him with a little he's
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  rapping shit You pick it up. You throw it back.
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  You roast each other. Maybe like you talk shit.
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  Yeah, it was like Bro, COVID was like the coolest
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  shit that ever happened to me because I didn't
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  stop living my life. Yeah. Oh yeah. You were
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  just in it, bro. Yeah. You're awesome. You're
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  in your world there. And then I, I used to have
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  this super big arrogance about like everything
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  has to be a freestyle. I have to be like, dude,
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  like you got to talk like, yeah, you thought
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  the song was hard, right? Dude, I spit that in
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  one take, you know, I wanted that extra validation
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  of like, yeah, dude, like that happened, man.
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  You know, Then I was like, bro, if you come up
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  to someone and say, Hey, I wrote this song. Yeah.
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  Or if you say I freestyled the song and it's
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  good, you're going to get the same reaction.
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  Yeah. You really are. Is it hard to freestyle
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  like that? No. Well, depending on who the person
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  is, rhyming is not a hard thing to do. Coming
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  up with creative bars is not a hard thing to
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  do. Breath control and consistency and lack of
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  fear is hard to accomplish. Because people are
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  so afraid to be bad. They don't ever start being
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  average. Oh Hey, man, that's a good little quote.
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  I like that. Yeah. Yeah, dude Well, actually,
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  you know, we do have a beat for you if you'd
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  like to throw down man I could definitely spit
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  some shit for you right now. Yeah, let's see.
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  Let's see, man Alright, cool. I think what kind
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  of beat we got today. Yeah, dude So this is a
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  I just got this off of a like it's just like
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  a rap beat that you can get like I think I got
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  it off of like Pixabay, okay, I think so it's
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  like a free like kind of thing and of course
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  I'm gonna cite the guy that wrote it and everything
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  like that But I think it's just like just a smooth
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  just regular beat I think it's about like so
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  to my understanding you made the beat. You're
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  an engineer. Let's work. No Yeah, yeah, let's
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  do it. All right, cool, then here you go, let's
• 17:37
  go Here for a minute, all the brain can't finish
• 17:45
  LA talking fitness, I'm like Jerry's Get a boy
• 17:48
  acquitted, known I'm gifted, never miss Told
• 17:50
  a shawty sipping gin, I told a shawty Now you
• 17:52
  look me in my eyes like evil twin Like what's
• 17:54
  the word, throw a noun in verb Show you I'm superb,
• 17:57
  it's off the brain Just a wife with spasms now
• 17:59
  just from the verbs In Chicago, in my city, now
• 18:02
  I'm powerful like Austin Fuck around, I'm crissin'
• 18:04
  crossin' Yeah, yo bitch is bad from Boston, ain't
• 18:06
  no cream Chop up on me, I'm a pull -up and a
• 18:09
  lead I can't even fuck around and try to grant
• 18:11
  your wish for free Hit it from the back, I hit
• 18:14
  like dirty D's You hit the mat, your shawty bad,
• 18:17
  I like him round and never flat You wanna play,
• 18:19
  get the cat, I get the kitten No submissive,
• 18:21
  name is Trevor, on a mission All these balls
• 18:23
  is my audition, ain't suspicious Fuck with me
• 18:25
  like unlike juries, been acquitted No ain't missing,
• 18:28
  ball like Kobe Motherfucker, boy I'm different,
• 18:30
  I'm the GOAT Look at me gon' float, Muhammad,
• 18:33
  call me Ali Told a bitch still come and call
• 18:35
  me Now you Austin, call her Ali, I don't need
• 18:37
  to lie Bitches dropping bombs like kamikaze Fuck
• 18:40
  around, I'm sorry, pick your arm up tight this
• 18:42
  guy a nazi playing with the game the fire spitting
• 18:44
  i'ma catch a flame no we ain't the fucking same
• 18:47
  i'm durant but it take the game to back it on
• 18:49
  it i'm a sniper i'ma call it easy money playing
• 18:52
  with your shawty going beezy at a boy go dummy
• 18:54
  get to rapping need a mummy fuck around this
• 18:57
  kind of human i'm the best and i can prove it
• 18:59
  lucifer i'm laughing lucid off the top now i
• 19:02
  run around you want the swerves hey yo bad lil
• 19:04
  bitch gon hit my line she always on my nerves
• 19:06
  she love her curves hit it once or twice and
• 19:08
  then i give her up like battle buttercup to chop
• 19:11
  up I'm the hip to run it up, I've had enough
• 19:13
  Poker player in my eyes, I call you bluffin'
• 19:15
  Huff and puff, you lone wolfin', not that guy,
• 19:17
  I need a puff Smoke Sativa, smoke gas, fuck around,
• 19:20
  I'm runnin' fast I don't give a fuck, I'm sorry,
• 19:23
  finish first and never last I'm the man to never
• 19:25
  play it, fuck around, the chopper's prayin' I
• 19:27
  don't give a fuck, I'm sorry, while you all prayin'
• 19:30
  to Satan I'm a god, no facade, it's off the brain,
• 19:32
  you move divine It's off the brain, I got some
• 19:34
  courage, I'ma say it with my spine Heaven sent,
• 19:37
  bad little bitch Maleficent, this anger I've
• 19:39
  been testin' it The future ain't corrected shit
• 19:41
  Fuck around deceptionist I don't even need to
• 19:44
  lie I might just fuck receptionist And then it's
• 19:46
  on the phone I'm really in a different zone Cali
• 19:49
  to the east Told lil shawty I'm a beast It's
• 19:51
  off the brain I kill the shit I know the boy
• 19:53
  ain't been deceased I might just rap for fucking
• 19:55
  hours I fuck a wet up in the shower I get too
• 19:58
  tall just like a tower I smoke some Tiva love
• 19:59
  some sour What's the word? Fuck around I'll start
• 20:02
  creating Like I'm Phineas You'll flow delirious
• 20:04
  You think you better than me Boy ain't serious
• 20:07
  It's off the brain Now I saw the flow insane
• 20:09
  I might as well just take this mic and fuck around
• 20:11
  and change the game Now I'm hot, fuck around,
• 20:14
  I'm sorry, stirring up the pot It's funny cause
• 20:16
  when I was 14 I was out here selling pot What's
• 20:18
  the word? Fuck with me, I'm sorry, now I really
• 20:21
  kill it I been cooking steak and eggs, I put
• 20:23
  that pressure on a skillet I get fired, no desire,
• 20:26
  call the goofies like a liar Fuck around, I'm
• 20:28
  sorry baby, bout what I did in my prior I ain't
• 20:31
  talking past life, yo bitches bad I smash her
• 20:33
  Fuck around, I'm sorry, Donna Cupid, call a dancer
• 20:36
  I need an answer like AI but you can't No, no
• 20:39
  practice fuck around. I'm sorry, baby. Kill this
• 20:41
  whole beat with some malice Man dude fucking
• 20:53
  right. Holy shit I was just gonna like let it
• 20:55
  play for like a minute thinking you were gonna
• 20:57
  like not I ain't never gonna stop. That's fucking
• 20:59
  crazy. Yeah, that's pretty good, dude Actually
• 21:02
  like fucking like there was a good flow to it.
• 21:04
  The beginning was whack, but it's our I caught
• 21:06
  it in the middle That's gonna be fun to fucking
• 21:12
  fuck around with that's That's what I do, bro.
• 21:15
  That's what you could just keep going with that
• 21:17
  Yeah, it's one of those things I'm gonna be honest
• 21:19
  with you like I did it kind of to prove a point
• 21:21
  like that beat is not anything special You know
• 21:23
  what I mean? Like if I have a crazier beat the
• 21:25
  cadences and allowance I'm allowed to grow like
• 21:28
  it's a art. That's the freestyling is art Yeah,
• 21:30
  and I've been doing a lot of arguing with people
• 21:33
  recently because all these artists that show
• 21:34
  up in the industry that fake freestyle Like they'll
• 21:37
  play something that was written. So one thing
• 21:39
  that was very important for me is I wanted to
• 21:41
  A, never have heard the beat. B, I didn't want
• 21:44
  to walk in here and spit some shit that other
• 21:46
  people heard me say. But it's almost impossible.
• 21:48
  You rap for fucking hours. Sometimes you say
• 21:51
  some shit that's similar to something else or
• 21:54
  whatever. So I try hard not to repeat, but it's
• 21:58
  not possible. So people are like, oh, you're
• 22:00
  not freestyling. I'm like, bro, you don't understand.
• 22:02
  I just spit. 500 bars like yeah, you don't think
• 22:05
  none of that Yeah, it's dude. I would honestly
• 22:08
  had respect if you would have stopped like in
• 22:10
  the middle and just been like all right That's
• 22:11
  it isn't all right cool Yeah, I was still fucking
• 22:13
  awesome, but like the fact that you like rode
• 22:14
  the whole damn beat. I was like dude Yeah, I
• 22:16
  got to finish the beat. Yeah, I was like I was
• 22:18
  like shit I didn't know if you're not gonna wrap
• 22:20
  with me. I'm taking the beat. Yeah, man That's
• 22:23
  fucking cool, dude. Like so that's just that's
• 22:26
  just your art That's just where you like so do
• 22:28
  you do you sit at home and just kind of like
• 22:30
  right? Like no, so this is brother. I'm really
• 22:33
  trying to get here in comedy too, but in this
• 22:36
  weird way I've done it for so long It's like
• 22:37
  that 10 ,000 hour thing where it's like something
• 22:40
  will come to me and I know it's a hit and I'm
• 22:42
  like, okay I just have to get this on paper because
• 22:44
  I will forget I'll forget I'll forget everything
• 22:47
  I just said I'll be like that is so good I won't
• 22:49
  forget it and then I'll forget it and I'm like
• 22:51
  bro, like why don't I just write that shit down
• 22:53
  and I kind of have a new philosophy I've been
• 22:55
  trying to adopt and it's if I'm trying to memorize
• 22:57
  a flow Like, if I'm trying to memorize a song
• 23:00
  to go to the studio and get it recorded, and
• 23:02
  I can't, it's not worth going to the studio with.
• 23:05
  Gotcha. Like, if I'm literally spitting that
• 23:07
  shit over and over again, and it's my fucking
• 23:10
  lyrics, and I can't remember it, how the fuck
• 23:12
  are you? Yeah. How are you going to be like,
• 23:15
  yo, that shit is so tough, I remember it. If
• 23:16
  the person who wrote it can't even be like...
• 23:19
  Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, I feel that, dude.
• 23:21
  So, maybe it's, like, too perfectionist, but,
• 23:24
  like, I write at least 10 songs a month. I don't
• 23:28
  write all the time. I freestyle more than I write.
• 23:31
  But I sit and write a full 10 songs a month,
• 23:33
  I would say. Yeah, but it's just in there. You're
• 23:35
  just going over it over and over and over again.
• 23:38
  So I heard on your podcast, which is Raw Controversy.
• 23:42
  Yes. So Trevor's podcast, Raw Controversy. Go
• 23:44
  check it out. So I heard on your podcast, you
• 23:46
  talked about the correlation between comedy...
• 23:51
  and rap. Yeah. And so I was going to ask you
• 23:53
  to get into that because I thought that was really
• 23:55
  cool, man. Like, so the connection between music
• 23:58
  and comedy, like how do you make that? I'd say
• 24:00
  that the OK, so I got both the biggest differences
• 24:03
  and the biggest similarities. So the biggest
• 24:07
  differences is that I found is in comedy, you
• 24:10
  want nobody to ever know your next move. You
• 24:13
  don't want what's being said next to be predictable.
• 24:16
  music you almost want it to be predictable you
• 24:19
  want people after their third listen to know
• 24:21
  exactly what you're gonna say because they want
• 24:23
  to sing the song like it sounds obvious but it's
• 24:26
  like right you know like that's the that's how
• 24:28
  my brain computed it and then also a similarity
• 24:31
  is if You look like you messed up. That's the
• 24:36
  only way the people know you messed up Right
• 24:38
  you know I mean like yeah music no one's like
• 24:40
  dude that guy fucked that up unless he's like
• 24:42
  fuck I fucked this shit or Apologize yeah, but
• 24:46
  in comedy. It's kind of the same way I literally
• 24:48
  watched bro shout out angel Diaz bro. I had angel
• 24:51
  Diaz on my podcast recently angel Diaz I had
• 24:54
  him and he I saw him do a set in our bar and
• 24:57
  to my thought process he was like Not bombing,
• 25:01
  but he like kept stuttering through jokes, and
• 25:03
  then he kept like He'd be like I'm not funny.
• 25:05
  I'm not funny like I'm moving on whatever like
• 25:06
  you know like stuttering and like crowd working
• 25:09
  Yeah, I thought it was um like he was fucking
• 25:12
  up, and it was still funny like he was recovering
• 25:14
  But he told me that's a whole thing he works
• 25:16
  on at open mics But he's just trying to get people
• 25:19
  to laugh at his awkwardness Yeah, and he was
• 25:21
  telling me a whole bunch of other set lines.
• 25:23
  He does with that and I'm like oh Shit like that
• 25:27
  was like that's so cool to me. You know like
• 25:29
  right I didn't know that but if I did maybe I
• 25:32
  wouldn't have thought it was funny Right right
• 25:34
  right exactly. Yeah, it's almost like a magic
• 25:36
  trick. Yeah in a way and then the Those are like
• 25:41
  the things that I feel like are opposite completely
• 25:43
  not the same mm -hmm similar. I think that um
• 25:47
  Cadence is like the most important thing in both
• 25:50
  right yeah, yeah, so it's almost like broke I'm
• 25:55
  trying to remember I don't remember who told
• 25:56
  me this but Ari Matty has like the best cadence
• 25:58
  Because like he literally tell you when to laugh
• 26:01
  right? Yeah, you can see it, like you can hear
• 26:05
  it and see it and everything like that. I agree,
• 26:07
  I've actually touched base on that a little bit.
• 26:09
  I'm a musician as well, and I've kind of spoken
• 26:12
  about how when I write jokes, it's almost like
• 26:15
  I'm writing lyrics, like there's a beat to it.
• 26:17
  Absolutely. You know, there's like a flow. I
• 26:20
  guess the thing I'm trying to work on the most
• 26:23
  in comedy is kind of trying to get rid of that
• 26:25
  a little bit, like not... Look at comedy like
• 26:29
  a performance. Although it is I want it to be
• 26:31
  more of like a like a funny conversation a Funny
• 26:35
  conversation like I'm talking shit and like I'm
• 26:38
  saying jokes that are written material, but I
• 26:40
  want to them it be like I'm talking shit. We're
• 26:42
  just having fun Yeah, so I was actually gonna
• 26:45
  be my next question to you and you're sort of
• 26:47
  answering it But I'm gonna go ahead and ask it
• 26:48
  anyway was I was gonna be like do you think that?
• 26:51
  That having them the mentality of writing comedy
• 26:54
  almost like music. Do you think that that's like
• 26:58
  helpful or destructive? I think most things are
• 27:01
  both. I think different people have different
• 27:06
  ways of understanding things that are definitely
• 27:08
  a good benefit to what, like that separates you
• 27:11
  from other people. Like I have, like I was saying
• 27:13
  earlier, like I can be super efficient in the
• 27:16
  way I get something done, but it might not be
• 27:17
  the best version of that, you know? But it's
• 27:21
  still effective for a lot of things. It's super
• 27:23
  effective to be super efficient in a lot of parts
• 27:25
  of life. Yeah, but it's also super effective
• 27:27
  to be like at the highest level at something.
• 27:29
  Yeah, you know, so I Think um for the rap shit.
• 27:33
  It's like yeah, I I have no fear on stage Like
• 27:36
  I've never like I don't care like it's so fun.
• 27:39
  Like I'm just having I'm being me. I'm having
• 27:41
  a good time Yeah, so I there's no such thing
• 27:44
  as a bad set to me because even if I bomb I'm
• 27:46
  gonna tell the story later like I'm not gonna
• 27:51
  be like Like no like I'm just gonna be like bright.
• 27:55
  Yeah, it doesn't eat you up. Yeah, it didn't
• 27:57
  work Yeah, so when you go up and you know when
• 28:00
  you go up on stage Do you find that to do comedy
• 28:03
  that you're not as like I guess are you still
• 28:06
  as fearless? I'm more fearless because comedy
• 28:09
  I feel like you're supposed to be like more wild
• 28:11
  you're supposed to push the boundary so like
• 28:13
  and also like I for my own What for worse or
• 28:17
  for better? I'm not really afraid of people like
• 28:19
  you know I mean like yeah, I'm just like You
• 28:21
  just get up there, you just do your thing. Yeah,
• 28:22
  and like what's gonna happen? Like most of the
• 28:24
  time I'm friends with 80 % of the room. Like,
• 28:26
  you know what I mean? Like, oh no, like, you
• 28:28
  know? Yeah. So like, I don't know, I just talk
• 28:30
  shit, see what works, though it doesn't. I'm
• 28:32
  really throwing like shit at the wall and seeing
• 28:34
  what sticks right now. Yeah, have you performed
• 28:37
  in front of people who are not your friend? Yeah.
• 28:39
  Yeah, and how did that go? I had good nights.
• 28:42
  You had good nights? I think I just can't, I
• 28:45
  don't have control of flow state in comedy yet.
• 28:47
  Music I could fucking like you saw like I'm stuttering
• 28:50
  at the beginning and then it's like it's there.
• 28:52
  It's not it's not gone like it stays Yeah, how
• 28:55
  many I feel like I'm writing jokes on this like
• 28:57
  I'm gonna tell you the joke like this and I'm
• 28:59
  gonna make you laugh Versus like I just need
• 29:01
  to be like You know just like you know, I'm uh,
• 29:05
  I'm trying to like Fuck the joke. I'm trying
• 29:08
  to instead of make love to it Okay, interesting.
• 29:11
  Yeah, I like that You're like dude. I'm trying
• 29:15
  to fucking impregnate this motherfucker. I'm
• 29:17
  trying to yeah I'm trying to go balls deep in
• 29:19
  this joke right now. Yeah, exactly So what enticed
• 29:24
  you to do comedy in the first place? In all honesty,
• 29:28
  I felt like it was unfair for me to interview
• 29:31
  comedians Without having some experience doing
• 29:34
  it Okay, so you started interviewing comedians
• 29:37
  before? Same time literally the same time like
• 29:39
  the first week I had my first episode of the
• 29:42
  podcast that I interviewed a comedian was like
• 29:43
  my sixth or fifth week in comedy So like I had
• 29:47
  been so this was weird so I started a discord
• 29:49
  in 2020 for this is relevant. I promise I started
• 29:55
  a discord in 2020 to have freestylers join There's
• 29:59
  like 300 members in there free to join people
• 30:01
  just join up and join in freestyle Now the only
• 30:04
  thing I use it for is UFC events, but at the
• 30:06
  time it was for freestyling But you can only
• 30:08
  freestyle for so long until y 'all are out of
• 30:10
  bars tired and trying to talk about something
• 30:12
  else, you know So eventually it just be like
• 30:15
  us talking shit But all these people became like
• 30:17
  my best friends like I'd see them more than my
• 30:19
  mom like because we're lit It's COVID like there's
• 30:22
  nothing to do. Yeah, so we're just locked in
• 30:24
  our whole lives as our conversation getting to
• 30:26
  know these people better than we know our best
• 30:28
  friends in real life because We have no fear
• 30:31
  If I say something embarrassing you might fucking
• 30:33
  make fun of me here if I and I can't like or
• 30:35
  if someone gets mad They could hit you you know
• 30:38
  over the internet, bro. There's no consequences
• 30:40
  So not only if you do want to choose to like
• 30:43
  somebody you are gonna stay because there's no
• 30:45
  consequences But also it gives you the opportunity
• 30:47
  to create something great because there's no
• 30:48
  vulnerability Okay Interesting. Yeah, that's
• 30:52
  a pretty that's an interesting perspective. There's
• 30:53
  no vulnerability. Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's
• 30:56
  really interesting So when um, so get into that
• 30:59
  more like how does that like do you think it's
• 31:01
  a no vulnerability is like, you know an inhibitor
• 31:03
  so I think um It's a balance because I truly
• 31:08
  believe in order to achieve anything great. You
• 31:10
  need to allow yourself to be vulnerable Yes,
• 31:13
  because I think that if you avoid conflict Conflict
• 31:18
  still happens, right? So you have to learn how
• 31:22
  to understand who you are and your abilities
• 31:25
  to escape conflict and operate in conflict rather
• 31:31
  than just trying to suppress all conflict, if
• 31:35
  that makes sense. Because life is going to throw
• 31:37
  curve balls at you, you know? It's like anything.
• 31:41
  It's saving money. It's the same idea. It's like,
• 31:43
  bro, you could be saving for this or that, but
• 31:45
  then all of a sudden you fucking crash your car.
• 31:46
  Bro like then what you know I mean like you need
• 31:49
  to have like a backup plan of okay This is my
• 31:51
  money saved for like a rainy day literally like
• 31:53
  some fucked up shit happens This is where I can
• 31:56
  allocate whatever I'm saving for that's for me.
• 31:58
  You know whatever Yeah, you know and that's how
• 32:00
  I look at a lot of things in life, but I fucking
• 32:03
  I just fully ADHDed by uh we're talking about
• 32:07
  how the discord became comedy So we'd be sitting
• 32:11
  on the calls doing freestyling It would end and
• 32:14
  then we'd end up just shooting the shit and we're
• 32:16
  all best friends So anything goes you know and
• 32:18
  we're just and we were killed Tony fans So we'd
• 32:21
  write bits from this like we'd have nights where
• 32:22
  like something was so iconic that was said it
• 32:25
  would be written in like the fucking discord
• 32:27
  chat like we'd literally have it like Saved as
• 32:29
  like a channel page like whatever like the one
• 32:32
  thing that was really common for us. We'd all
• 32:33
  call each other Ricky Ricky Yeah, like it was
• 32:35
  just like like in a place where a black dude
• 32:37
  would say the n -word. We just say Ricky Okay,
• 32:40
  and like it was just like a you look at them
• 32:42
  like a really like it'd be like Ricky You know
• 32:45
  what I'm saying like right and it became like
• 32:48
  a whole thing but like then we had like whole
• 32:50
  like Bullshit jokes that we'd write and all these
• 32:53
  and some of these people have still to this day
• 32:54
  never done comedy and they have Minutes of content
• 32:57
  that they've just where they're just hilarious.
• 32:59
  Yeah, and they just don't do shit And I'm like,
• 33:01
  bro, fuck you. Come do some shit with me, bro.
• 33:04
  I'm not saying I'm the greatest ever, but I'm
• 33:06
  saying, bro, you've got something. You could
• 33:08
  get some laughs. Let's go fuck around and find
• 33:10
  out. Yeah. Was comedy the whole reason why you
• 33:13
  left Chicago and came to Austin? I'm going to
• 33:17
  be very careful how I answer that. OK. I think
• 33:20
  I left Chicago because I had to. OK. I think
• 33:25
  as an artist in any rain, it's very hard to make
• 33:28
  it in your own city. Everybody tries to tend
• 33:30
  to claim you after you get big, but they weren't
• 33:35
  showing love before. So you didn't do any comedy
• 33:38
  in Chicago? No, I didn't do any comedy. I just
• 33:42
  did the virtual Mike Nights. So I wrote for a
• 33:45
  really long time, and I was doing these jokes.
• 33:48
  I had reps, but it wasn't on a stage. But to
• 33:51
  me, I've had so much stage time in music, that
• 33:54
  was never a transition period. Like when I'm
• 33:56
  on stage, I'm the same person. You just got up
• 33:58
  on stage and just started spinning, right? Yep.
• 34:00
  Yeah, did you have any written material when
• 34:02
  you first got up on stage? A lot. A lot? Oh,
• 34:05
  okay, great. That's what I was saying. Like,
• 34:06
  I wrote from those nights before I got into comedy.
• 34:09
  Okay, now I understand. Yeah. Okay, all right,
• 34:11
  yeah. So you have all this stuff written and
• 34:12
  everything, and when you finally went up there,
• 34:14
  you were fearless and everything. You get up
• 34:17
  and then, like, what was it? Like, was it like...
• 34:19
  So the first day I ever did, I made the mistake
• 34:22
  of thinking Shakespeare's was like the spot to
• 34:24
  fucking, like, do open my side, right? Why is
• 34:27
  that a mistake? It's not necessarily a mistake.
• 34:29
  It was just the time I went. I just went at like
• 34:31
  a weird show. There wasn't that many people.
• 34:32
  Oh, okay. I think it was actually after Kill
• 34:34
  Tony. Oh, yeah, the suicide mic. Yeah, and there
• 34:37
  was like four people in the state, in the audience
• 34:39
  and like... Yeah, every now and again, I guess.
• 34:41
  I was like, all right. And then like, I couldn't
• 34:43
  tell if the joke wasn't funny, obviously, because
• 34:45
  there was four people and three of them weren't
• 34:47
  paying attention. So I was like, I don't know
• 34:50
  if this joke was bad or if this joke is not.
• 34:53
  So then I started going to a bunch of different
• 34:54
  places and doing the same joke. And then I realized
• 34:57
  the joke wasn't funny. But it wasn't because
• 34:59
  I was bombing, it was because it's just like
• 35:01
  I have good energy on stage. So I wasn't losing
• 35:03
  the crowd, it's just I wasn't getting the big
• 35:05
  laughs I thought I was gonna get. So I was like,
• 35:08
  okay, why? And I kind of was able to break down
• 35:10
  why I think. I think the original joke I wrote
• 35:12
  was way too personal. Like it was too much about
• 35:15
  someone in my life that makes the story funny.
• 35:18
  But then it's impossible to, no matter how good
• 35:22
  of a storyteller I am, for you to know that person.
• 35:25
  Well, did you have a sort of like inspiration,
• 35:29
  like a comedic inspiration? Yeah, yeah. Who?
• 35:32
  Andrew Schultz. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's great. Oh
• 35:36
  my gosh. So many stuff. So many stuff. He's so
• 35:39
  good. My favorite Andrew Schultz, I won't say
• 35:42
  it's my favorite bit, but the reason I like him
• 35:45
  so much, he's very good at misdirection. And
• 35:51
  he's also good at callbacks because the whole
• 35:54
  line of bits all add up to something like it's
• 35:56
  like you know what I mean like yeah, like his
• 35:59
  special was inspired because it all happened
• 36:01
  and then obviously there's exaggerated moments
• 36:03
  of like did that really go like that you know
• 36:06
  where it's like yeah of knowing that guy shit
• 36:10
  Like some of those moments could actually happen
• 36:13
  um but yeah, then he had a podcast too Yeah,
• 36:17
  and yeah his podcast is successful I mean, fuck,
• 36:20
  he had the president on his podcast. Yeah, he's
• 36:22
  a, no, he's great. I love his pyramids joke.
• 36:25
  Like his pyramids joke, I think - The Mexicans
• 36:27
  built the pyramids? Yeah, you're not going to
• 36:28
  question that. You know, I was like, man, I was
• 36:31
  like, when I first heard that, I was like, that's
• 36:32
  a great joke. You know what I mean? And just
• 36:35
  like, you know, a lot of the stuff you can find
• 36:37
  out there right now, but yeah, he was awesome.
• 36:40
  So did you, did you find that you emulated his
• 36:42
  like writing style in any way, or did you just
• 36:44
  sort of like do your own thing? I just tried
• 36:46
  to be, I guess what I took from Andrew Schultz
• 36:48
  is Unpredictable and wild unpredictable and wild
• 36:51
  not necessarily like structure. Okay. What did
• 36:54
  that look like? Unpredictable and wild. I don't
• 36:57
  know. I would just say something that like pushes
• 36:58
  the boundary like I was like black people named
• 37:02
  their children by playing Scrabble Like the whole
• 37:10
  explanation of that like okay, and like why okay,
• 37:13
  and it was funny you just just Unpredictable
• 37:19
  and wild it's like one of those like I asked
• 37:21
  Yeah, but yeah, but it's not unnecessarily not
• 37:25
  true like you see the yeah, I see that I see
• 37:27
  the connection Yeah, I see I see where you're
• 37:29
  going with it. Yeah and everything I don't I
• 37:31
  mean I don't think I've heard that before I don't
• 37:33
  think I've I don't think I've heard that either
• 37:34
  and my whole thing is like and I don't think
• 37:37
  this is my thing I think it's something that
• 37:38
  I kind of learned, but I'm sure I heard this
• 37:41
  somewhere But as long as it's funnier than it
• 37:42
  is offensive Absolutely. That's like, that's
• 37:45
  sort of like, that's sort of the thing. I feel
• 37:47
  the exact same way about, um, like, like talking
• 37:52
  to girls. Like, you can say anything if it works.
• 37:56
  You can say anything if it works. Yeah, like
• 37:57
  literally, literally, like it's like, fuck. Yeah,
• 38:01
  it's true though. Yeah, really true. It is kind
• 38:03
  of true Especially like, you know, I gotta have
• 38:06
  my jokes for like, you know, like stage and I
• 38:08
  gotta have my jokes for the girls You know, oh
• 38:10
  like I'm working on this concept right now for
• 38:12
  a bit. It's definitely not a bit right now Yeah,
• 38:14
  but it's like bro. My mom's Jewish So I have
• 38:16
  the ability to make self -deprecating Jew jokes
• 38:18
  and get away with anything. So I'm like, yeah,
• 38:20
  so I'm like, alright, uh I was like my family's
• 38:24
  reformed Jews. I was I don't know if you guys
• 38:26
  know what that is Basically, they're just bitch
• 38:28
  Jews. They're not really all the way there. I'm
• 38:31
  like, guys, just look at me. I'm six foot three.
• 38:34
  I've never, I've pleasured a woman one time.
• 38:38
  I left a 40 % tip on a tab twice. You know what
• 38:43
  I mean? I just feel like you could just... I
• 38:45
  don't know like I feel like it could build something
• 38:47
  funny. I don't know. Yeah, my circumcision was
• 38:49
  a five scan We didn't even bury that shit in
• 38:52
  the front yard right keep it on me I Mean all
• 39:00
  that is is good though and I guess like I'm going
• 39:02
  off of like what you're talking about about like
• 39:04
  how you felt like you got like too personal,
• 39:07
  you know? I feel like sometimes like, and I'm
• 39:10
  a person who, I did this, where I started off
• 39:13
  comedy not personal in any way, shape or form.
• 39:16
  Like I was just like, I'm just gonna tell just
• 39:18
  - A wild joke. Just a wild joke and stuff. And
• 39:21
  so I'm kind of learning to get more personal,
• 39:24
  you know? And so I guess like, what kind of lessons
• 39:27
  have you learned since starting comedy? So one
• 39:30
  thing is I've learned is I feel like riffing,
• 39:34
  is very important, but I'd rather, I don't like
• 39:37
  riffing after you run out of material. I like
• 39:40
  putting the riffing into the material. If that
• 39:44
  makes sense. Just personally as a pet peeve,
• 39:48
  I hate when you could clearly tell that the fucking,
• 39:51
  the repetitive joke that you tell every time.
• 39:54
  Turned off like it's like they just turned off
• 39:56
  a recorded and then went to live TV like that's
• 40:00
  just Happened like they tell the joke and it's
• 40:03
  like let me put the fries in the bag because
• 40:04
  they do the same fucking joke in the Same way
• 40:06
  every single time and then they get to their
• 40:08
  okay. Well now it's time to riff What do you
• 40:11
  do for a living like bro like you know like if
• 40:15
  I'm gonna riff I I try to like make it about
• 40:18
  me Then the crowd like in relation or something
• 40:21
  like that And then like I go into like okay this
• 40:24
  reaction that they gave gave me an into this
• 40:26
  joke Yeah, then I'll do this joke and then I'll
• 40:29
  do that joke and then I'm like I Was gonna try
• 40:32
  this joke today And then I'll go into the one
• 40:33
  that I actually wanted to work on when I get
• 40:35
  stuck like when I don't know what else to do
• 40:37
  Right. I go to the one that's like, okay I've
• 40:40
  done this joke 50 different ways 50 different
• 40:41
  times, but I just want to keep working on it
• 40:43
  So then I'm comfortable because I know that jokes
• 40:46
  a minute and a half let's say I have two and
• 40:47
  a half minutes left, I could do that joke, and
• 40:49
  then either go into something else because of
• 40:52
  the crowd's reaction to that joke, or just be
• 40:55
  like, hey, thank you for your host, and then
• 40:57
  you have a good set, and you didn't, you know
• 40:58
  what I mean? Yeah, I think that's a good lesson,
• 41:01
  because I started, back when I did, started doing
• 41:03
  the crowd work bullshit. I would do the whole,
• 41:08
  like, what's your name, you know, what's your
• 41:09
  job, and then try to, and then I'm like, oh,
• 41:12
  fuck it. Like, now what I do is I'll just look
• 41:14
  out into the crowd and see if there's anybody
• 41:16
  that just has something that I identify with
• 41:19
  that I can just not pick on, but just sort of,
• 41:22
  I can, you know, I can work with that. Yeah,
• 41:24
  I do think it's okay, though, to ask questions
• 41:26
  as a comic. I just think the problem is it's
• 41:29
  the way you do it. Like, you can't be so clear
• 41:32
  that that was, like, I'm out of written material,
• 41:34
  like, this is next, you know what I mean? Like,
• 41:37
  if you're like, do it like, bro, like, Timmy
• 41:39
  Nobrick's set from Kill Tony, his second episode,
• 41:42
  or third episode, he was like, he's like, what
• 41:45
  do you do? I'm a student not what I'm looking
• 41:48
  for for this sushi. Yeah. Yeah, that's so good.
• 41:51
  Like it's like so good Yeah, yeah, like and how
• 41:53
  he was like, yeah, I'm looking for a setup for
• 41:55
  this air Airport sushi restaurant joke. I'm trying
• 41:58
  to find my way to this joke. That's just yeah
• 42:01
  funny that that is man That's great. And that
• 42:03
  takes like a special kind of talent. Yeah, you
• 42:05
  know to like Everybody can have their thing.
• 42:08
  It doesn't need to be that saying you need some
• 42:10
  type of Comfort in just doing it right, you know
• 42:15
  and like Don't know some people fucking do push
• 42:18
  -ups some people spin in a circle some people
• 42:21
  smoke a cigarette some people There's something
• 42:23
  to like pregame ritually. That's like okay. Mm
• 42:26
  -hmm. I was Trevor Ray now. I'm RC prodigy gotcha
• 42:29
  right I was I'm on stage. This is who I'm being
• 42:32
  right now the problem. I have sometimes is turning
• 42:34
  it off Okay, so which one do you have a problem
• 42:37
  turning off like what I'm from the state comedy
• 42:40
  version of me the comedy version is okay sometimes
• 42:42
  like Comedy is funny to people that can't be
• 42:46
  offended, but it can be mean to somebody that
• 42:47
  can be. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. And unfortunately,
• 42:52
  people don't see the world the way that they
• 42:54
  should. And I'm just going to say that arrogantly.
• 42:56
  It's just like we can't all be at each other's
• 42:59
  throats all the time. Everybody's got shit going
• 43:01
  on. Everybody needs grace. At the end of the
• 43:03
  day, most people aren't looking to negatively
• 43:07
  affect you. Yeah. Most of the time. Yeah, there's
• 43:10
  sometimes someone that's actually malicious.
• 43:12
  But let's be real. Right. How often do you deal
• 43:14
  with that person? Yeah. Yeah. Most of the time
• 43:17
  people don't give a fuck about you. It's not
• 43:19
  that they don't hate you. It's not that they
• 43:20
  all love you. They don't care. Yeah. So if you
• 43:23
  start realizing that, you're just gonna have
• 43:25
  so much gratitude for the people you do have
• 43:27
  in your life that do care about you because you're
• 43:29
  like, oh shit, why would I spend life hating
• 43:32
  this person, that person? None of them give a
• 43:33
  fuck about me. Right. And then, okay, cool. These
• 43:37
  six people really do. Five people, three people,
• 43:39
  even if it's one person. It's like, okay, I'm
• 43:41
  gonna have so much gratitude because this person
• 43:44
  was willing to be there for me in equivalence
• 43:48
  to me being there for them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
• 43:51
  I mean, I totally see that. And, you know, a
• 43:53
  lot of times it's like, you know, people actually
• 43:56
  this kind of fitting. But Keegan, when he was
• 43:59
  on, he said like, you know, like people take
• 44:00
  comedy too seriously. Absolutely. And I felt
• 44:03
  like, you know, like it was just a quick thing
• 44:05
  that he said. But I really like hung on to that
• 44:07
  because I was like, yeah, that's very true. It's
• 44:09
  like people people don't realize that all they're
• 44:11
  trying to do is just make you laugh. They're
• 44:13
  just trying to make you feel good. That's it.
• 44:16
  I think it's time. I got to let it out the box,
• 44:20
  the wild conspiracy theory of the episode here.
• 44:23
  But this is where my head's been at for the last
• 44:25
  couple weeks. Sure. What is it? I think that
• 44:28
  politics doesn't exist anymore. Maybe it did
• 44:31
  at some point. But I think that today, the same
• 44:35
  people, and this is common knowledge, the same
• 44:37
  people that fund the left, fund the right for
• 44:40
  the presidential election. So to me, that's just
• 44:43
  right there is enough evidence to be like, so
• 44:45
  you don't know who the people are that are in
• 44:47
  charge, right? But a post that I made that kind
• 44:50
  of sums up everything that I'm about to say is
• 44:52
  like, if I was the king of a country, I wouldn't
• 44:55
  tell anybody I was the king of that country.
• 44:58
  Because if I told the people, I would face scrutiny
• 45:01
  for the things that I do incorrectly. Where if
• 45:04
  you can allow You over here my friend, you're
• 45:07
  the fucking king of the country fucking we'll
• 45:09
  call him Andrew. Andrew's the king of the country
• 45:11
  All right, yeah fucking Andrew's the king, but
• 45:14
  I make all the mistakes and all the decisions
• 45:16
  Yeah, Andrew gets crucified. Everyone's like
• 45:18
  fuck you Andrew like you're a piece of shit this
• 45:20
  and that but he still gets to claim power He
• 45:22
  still gets paid. He still gets to be in power.
• 45:25
  But truthfully he is nothing other than a title
• 45:29
  And I think that's basically how our governments
• 45:32
  run. I think there's a lot of people that have
• 45:34
  been doing the same things for years and a lot
• 45:36
  of the things that happen in politics are predetermined.
• 45:38
  Not everything. Obviously some shit is just wild
• 45:41
  that just happens. But I think a lot of things
• 45:44
  are like, we're gonna fuck this part of the law
• 45:46
  up to see how these people react. Because the
• 45:49
  goal is never to make the country better. The
• 45:50
  goal is to keep people distracted. And if everybody
• 45:56
  hates each other, There's never anybody on two
• 45:59
  sides. There's always people on five. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:03
  I think I see where you're talking. You know?
• 46:05
  Yeah. Creating the division kind of like, you
• 46:08
  know, keeps us weaker. Well, why was there a
• 46:11
  revolution? A revolution. Like because of slavery,
• 46:15
  right? And the reason that that could happen
• 46:17
  is because there was something so controversial.
• 46:19
  that it divided us into two sides. So the goal
• 46:23
  of politics now is no longer to make it two sides,
• 46:26
  it's to make it five. So these people... LGBTQ
• 46:31
  people have beef with this race, and this race
• 46:33
  has beef with this race, and this and that, and
• 46:36
  poor people and rich people, and fucking blue
• 46:39
  collar, and business owners, and bro, it's just
• 46:42
  like, you know what I mean? Everybody's gotta
• 46:44
  have a category, Jewish, religion, you know what
• 46:48
  I mean, whatever. So if you have eight categories
• 46:52
  now that every person could oppose to you, and
• 46:55
  if they oppose too many of your categories, you
• 46:57
  condemn that person, There's nobody left. There's
• 47:00
  nobody on your side Yeah, so the truth is is
• 47:03
  we could never have a revolution because every
• 47:05
  there'd be 30 sides It would be just anarchy
• 47:08
  would just be every man for themselves. It wouldn't
• 47:10
  be the red team and the blue team Yeah, because
• 47:13
  eventually everybody's gonna figure out that
• 47:15
  they disagree on something, you know, so and
• 47:18
  it's like that but that's a I think that perspective
• 47:20
  and disagreement I think that is something that
• 47:24
  people just need to accept in my personal opinion,
• 47:27
  you know, is that like, you know, just Except
• 47:29
  that we're not gonna agree. Yeah, we're just
• 47:31
  we're just not gonna agree You know, but the
• 47:33
  fact that we don't agree is a bad thing. It's
• 47:36
  like yeah, it's not a bad thing It's okay if
• 47:38
  you have your own belief. Yeah, it's okay It's
• 47:40
  like but what what the people seem to do is that
• 47:43
  they disagree and then they think that you need
• 47:46
  to agree And that's where it becomes a problem,
• 47:49
  you know, it's like but yeah, I see what you're
• 47:50
  saying I see what you're saying I think that
• 47:52
  you know, like there needs to be like some kind
• 47:54
  of like unity amongst us If you're going to admit
• 47:58
  something can be done purposefully, you almost
• 48:01
  have to admit or at least consider that everything
• 48:04
  can be. Yeah. Yeah. You know? So. Yeah. And I
• 48:07
  wish it was like that, honestly, in comedy. I
• 48:10
  really wish people would just understand that.
• 48:12
  It's like these are just a bunch of jesters who
• 48:14
  are just trying to entertain you. Make you laugh,
• 48:16
  man. Yeah, they're just trying to make you laugh.
• 48:17
  It's nothing more than that. It's nothing. There's
• 48:20
  no craziness. There's no ulterior motive. It
• 48:22
  is also fascinating when you see, like, You're
• 48:27
  not funny off like bro like people are like this
• 48:30
  motherfucker like he had he got this spot here
• 48:32
  And he like didn't even do a good like Yeah,
• 48:35
  you're telling me you've never bombed before
• 48:37
  like you do comedy. You've never bought like
• 48:39
  bro. What are you talking about? Yeah, even if
• 48:41
  you don't think it's like music I'm gonna make
• 48:44
  this point. I think um Music and comedy should
• 48:48
  be treated like paintings right if you go to
• 48:52
  if you go to a museum And you see Michelangelo
• 48:54
  painted this, Picasso painted this. They can
• 48:57
  both be beautiful. Yeah. It's not, fuck Michelangelo
• 49:01
  because I'm rocking with Picasso, man. I'm rocking
• 49:04
  with him. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, why is music like
• 49:08
  that now? I don't know. It sucks. Like, can't
• 49:11
  we just admit Kendrick Lamar and Drake are great
• 49:13
  artists? Can't we just be like, yo, bro, these
• 49:15
  dudes are good at what they do. Yeah. And to
• 49:18
  say they're not on either side, you're just an
• 49:19
  idiot. Yeah. They've been relevant for like fucking
• 49:22
  20 years, bro. Yeah, you can't But I don't care
• 49:25
  if you believe in mainstream culture or not,
• 49:27
  but you don't make garbage music for 20 years
• 49:29
  and stay top of the headlines There's some songs
• 49:31
  that are good Yeah, they just that's just the
• 49:34
  way people are it's insane. It's just the way
• 49:36
  life is it's so weird Don't know why I don't
• 49:38
  get it like I get the people like the drama and
• 49:41
  I get the sides of it and I get like in sport
• 49:44
  like the sport of idea of it of like Fuck the
• 49:46
  Packers like I get I get the concept but like
• 49:50
  right you don't Let's be real. Y 'all all know
• 49:52
  the songs. You know the words to the songs. You
• 49:55
  sing the song. Can you stop pretending? You've
• 49:58
  heard the songs. You've heard the beats. I don't
• 50:00
  care who you are. If you're a Drake fan, if you're
• 50:02
  a Kendrick fan, you've heard the opposite. Everybody's
• 50:05
  heard Humble. Everybody's heard God Plan. Maybe
• 50:09
  this would be cool to hear. I listen to every
• 50:14
  big artist's music, regardless if I like them
• 50:16
  or not. Because I look at it like breaking down
• 50:19
  film. Like I said, coach mentality, right? So
• 50:21
  I'm like, what are my competitors doing that
• 50:24
  are that they have so much more money than me,
• 50:26
  but what are they doing with outside of that?
• 50:28
  Like, is their content better than mine or do
• 50:30
  they just have more reach? Yeah. So that's a
• 50:33
  common battle I'm having. Like, is this guy really
• 50:36
  better than me or is it like he's paying a producer
• 50:40
  that makes millions to fucking promote his shit?
• 50:44
  Like if you have a fucking Metro booming tag,
• 50:46
  you're going to get 500 K views. Right. Automatic.
• 50:50
  So it's not a matter of if the views happen,
• 50:52
  it's a matter of if the saves happen. People
• 50:54
  are still fucking with the song after. Yeah.
• 50:57
  Yeah. That's why they say the, what do you call
• 51:01
  it? I don't know why I'm forgetting the word,
• 51:06
  but it's funny because I want to say interface.
• 51:09
  Yeah. It's like yeah for context we were talking
• 51:15
  about how we couldn't remember the word interface
• 51:17
  and now the only thing I'm thinking is fucking
• 51:19
  interface, but but just like the when you're
• 51:22
  When you're you know engaging in the content
• 51:26
  and you're gauging in the in the you know the
• 51:29
  comment section and all that shit like you know,
• 51:31
  whatever Whatever the word is, I'm thinking.
• 51:33
  But anyway. Interaction? Interaction, I think.
• 51:36
  Is that what you're looking for? Yeah, the interactions
• 51:38
  and all that stuff like that. All of that comes
• 51:40
  into play in this weird fucking thing. I didn't
• 51:43
  even know that until I started getting into this.
• 51:46
  I started getting into this thinking, I'm like,
• 51:49
  I just want to give a platform where comedians
• 51:51
  can come on and just talk to each other. And
• 51:54
  I didn't realize until anything, any minuscule
• 51:57
  amount of popularity happened with it. That's
• 52:00
  when I started to realize, I'm like, People are
• 52:02
  choosing sides now. And I was like, how the fuck
• 52:04
  did this come to that? I wasn't even trying to
• 52:07
  do that. Bro, you know what's awesome though?
• 52:11
  My whole theory with reactions is like, bro,
• 52:13
  it's so clear and obvious, who cares? It's so
• 52:17
  clear and obvious, who cares when they're responding?
• 52:20
  And I never care, ever. I'll respond to some
• 52:23
  shit just because it's funny. Bro, I just had
• 52:26
  a quote on my post that was from the Bible. And
• 52:29
  they were trying to say that's not true. So I
• 52:30
  just wrote the Bible verse, like just went where
• 52:33
  it is in the Bible. And I was like, and people
• 52:36
  would be like, like, look at you, like correcting
• 52:38
  this person. I'm like, I didn't say, fuck you.
• 52:40
  I didn't like talk shit. I was just like, yeah,
• 52:43
  I was just citing my source real quick. Yeah.
• 52:45
  You were just, you just put it out there, you
• 52:47
  know? And it's like, I don't know. Like, I think
• 52:50
  there are people out there who they put, they
• 52:51
  put stuff out to, to get you to engage. I think
• 52:56
  that's the word I was looking for, engagement.
• 52:58
  But yeah, people would get you to engage, what
• 53:01
  do they call it, rage baiting? Things like that.
• 53:03
  That's how they want to do it and stuff like
• 53:05
  that. And I fell victim to it, honestly. I did
• 53:08
  the whole thing where I was in the comments,
• 53:10
  like, oh, fuck you, and defending everything.
• 53:12
  And then I was like, oh, this is stupid. I fell
• 53:14
  for it. Yeah, I never really get upset by anything
• 53:18
  people say. Like, bro, I was a fucking five foot
• 53:21
  two ginger Jew fucking dork. I love that there's
• 53:26
  a joke in there. Absolutely like you think I
• 53:28
  like do you think I like get like heaven like
• 53:31
  it's like the Matt rife joke It's like I don't
• 53:33
  know if it was Matt rife, but if somebody but
• 53:34
  he was like anything you could say to me I haven't
• 53:37
  said to myself three inches from the mirror.
• 53:39
  Yeah, you know what I mean? Like it's like M
• 53:41
  &M has a thing like yeah, and on a kamikaze album.
• 53:44
  I think yeah Yeah, yeah, I've heard all of it
• 53:46
  bro and like right most of the time. It's not
• 53:48
  even funny. I'm like bro. I like Do you like
• 53:52
  make a good one? The dude, so about the whole
• 53:56
  ginger thing, my fucking, you see my family is
• 53:58
  like, they're all like gingers. They're all redheads
• 54:00
  and things like that. My mom, like my freaking,
• 54:03
  my nephews, like I've got like two nephews. Like
• 54:07
  I'm talking like fire, fire, red hair, things
• 54:10
  like that. Even my beard, it's like, it's weird.
• 54:12
  Like my beard gets like super red, but I wasn't,
• 54:14
  I'm not a redhead. But yeah, man, like, so whenever
• 54:17
  I heard all that shit, like growing up, I was
• 54:20
  like, what are you fucking talking about? You
• 54:22
  know what I mean? I'm like, dude, this is like,
• 54:23
  I don't understand that. But like, I really don't
• 54:25
  get it. So what kind of hate have you gotten
• 54:28
  for just simply being a ginger? No, I never hate
• 54:31
  for being a ginger. Well, actually, there's girls
• 54:34
  that are just like, I would never go after a
• 54:35
  ginger. Why? I don't know. But there's also the
• 54:39
  opposite. There's girls that are like, you're
• 54:41
  a ginger, you're hot. Only gingers. It's like,
• 54:44
  you're a ginger. Like, oh shit. I've experienced
• 54:46
  both sides of it. Oh, OK. I don't think like
• 54:49
  you get any negative social scrutiny. I'm just
• 54:51
  saying like you're an odd you're just you look
• 54:53
  different like it's just Yeah, I don't know.
• 54:55
  I don't think it's bad. I just think like it's
• 54:58
  you're unique So it's easy to point out that
• 55:00
  you're ginger. You're everybody's it's not that
• 55:02
  it's a bad thing Just everybody points you out
• 55:04
  because I forget what the percentage is. It's
• 55:06
  like a really low percentage of people bro I
• 55:09
  have so many things like that, but I'm ambidextrous
• 55:11
  like I could write with both hands. Oh no shit,
• 55:13
  and I'm ginger I play hockey and I rap like that
• 55:17
  is like the most like Bro, like everything in
• 55:20
  that is so rare. That's fucking awesome though
• 55:22
  So like that's kind of why I guess I feel like
• 55:24
  I have no fear because I feel like I'm already
• 55:26
  so unique Like people ask me all the time like
• 55:28
  would you ever get a tattoo? I'm like, bro. Aren't
• 55:30
  I unique enough, bro? I don't need to like pay
• 55:32
  to put some more unique shit on me, you know,
• 55:35
  I'm like I already got it all like Pretty fucking
• 55:38
  unique guy. Yeah, dude. That's why that that
• 55:40
  is fucking awesome. I love I love the self recognition
• 55:43
  I love the confidence. I love that you're just
• 55:45
  like, you know, you're putting it out there,
• 55:47
  you know, for yourself and everything. I know,
• 55:49
  like, I don't know, like, I think that one thing
• 55:53
  I've realized, so I've done psychedelics in my
• 55:55
  life, like mushrooms and LSD. I fucking love
• 55:58
  psychedelics. I love psychedelics too. And one
• 56:00
  thing I've learned from doing psychedelics is
• 56:03
  that you don't realize how many people don't
• 56:05
  know who they are. Right. And for me, that's
• 56:10
  not been a problem for such a long time. Like
• 56:12
  it wasn't obviously I didn't always know but
• 56:15
  like yeah That for I figured it out so early
• 56:18
  like who I wanted to be and how I was gonna get
• 56:21
  there Yeah, so I used to write I used to have
• 56:24
  a dream journal Yes, so when I dream I'd write
• 56:28
  the memory. I used to also have a way better
• 56:30
  memory than I do today Fucking psychedelics dude.
• 56:33
  It was good I used to be able to like recite
• 56:36
  whole like like if I wrote in the dream journal
• 56:38
  I could recite it from memory like later that
• 56:40
  day Like the way I wrote it down boys want to
• 56:43
  do um, but yeah, eventually I gave up on it But
• 56:46
  one of these days I was writing in the dream
• 56:47
  journal and I was like turning like what if my
• 56:49
  life I would got bullied that day and I came
• 56:52
  home I didn't tell nobody I was just reading
• 56:54
  the end of the night and I was just writing down
• 56:57
  what I would change about who I am today Like
• 57:00
  I was like what would be dope like just like
• 57:01
  let's put bullshit. Let's put serious shit So
• 57:04
  one thing I put I was like, I'm gonna have a
• 57:05
  ton of hockey jerseys And I was like, all right,
• 57:09
  that's achievable. We can start that collection.
• 57:11
  My thought process was I'm going to grow eventually.
• 57:13
  I'll just get bigger jerseys and eventually they'll
• 57:16
  fit me. So I started doing that. I was like,
• 57:18
  I want to be an athlete. Like I was like, anybody
• 57:20
  could be smart. I was like, I want to be athletic
• 57:23
  and smart. I'm saying so I was like boom so I
• 57:26
  was not good at sports until like I was like
• 57:28
  older like until I was like 12 or 15 but like
• 57:31
  as a little little kid I was not athletic like
• 57:33
  I was not good at sports mm -hmm so then I was
• 57:35
  I'm gonna play basketball and hockey those are
• 57:37
  the ones and I started hockey at nine years old
• 57:39
  and I wasn't good until I was like 16 like I
• 57:43
  was like bad like genuinely bad oh yeah yeah
• 57:46
  not a good player I would say the first year
• 57:49
  I had success I was 13 but My team was just so
• 57:53
  dog shit that I had to do something like we just
• 57:56
  were that bad So like it wasn't that I was that
• 58:00
  good. It was just I was playing on a terrible
• 58:01
  team in a terrible league um, but then once I
• 58:05
  like actually I'd say like right as I was graduating
• 58:07
  high school. I started getting good at every
• 58:10
  sport like every sport I feel like I can compete
• 58:13
  pretty at a high level now, right? Yeah, but
• 58:15
  so that was like a big thing and I was like your
• 58:17
  the time when your confidence was sort of growing.
• 58:20
  Yeah Yeah, so I it started off was like, okay
• 58:23
  I understand what I'm good at and I understand
• 58:25
  what I'm being hindered by not by my capabilities
• 58:27
  But bit by like just physical capabilities. Yeah,
• 58:30
  so I was like bro. You're skinny as hell. You're
• 58:32
  weak You're not that good at sports and you're
• 58:36
  fucking goofy looking like you're a fucking ginger
• 58:38
  tiny little dude Like you're goofy looking, you
• 58:40
  know, yeah putting yourself down a little bit
• 58:42
  Yeah, like, you know, it's not even that I had
• 58:44
  confidence. Although that was true. It was like
• 58:47
  self for recognition Like, it was like, I could
• 58:49
  tell you, I don't know, an appearance, even today,
• 58:51
  I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm like a five out of
• 58:53
  10. But that doesn't mean I think I'm ugly. I'm
• 58:55
  just like... You feel like you're just being
• 58:58
  realistic with yourself. That was me in my freshman
• 59:00
  year of high school. That's a good picture, though.
• 59:04
  Actually, I get a lot from that picture. You
• 59:06
  should send me that. Would you mind me actually
• 59:08
  putting that into the... Absolutely. Okay, cool.
• 59:11
  Because I think there's something to that, though,
• 59:13
  because we've all gone through those stages.
• 59:15
  You know in life like I don't have many pictures
• 59:17
  because when I was younger, uh, we didn't have
• 59:19
  like Cell phones like this like we had like nokia
• 59:23
  cell phones. So there was no pictures. You weren't
• 59:25
  taking pictures and um, and so I don't have many
• 59:28
  pictures of me like that Yeah, you know, I wish
• 59:30
  I did and uh, yeah But it kind of it kind of
• 59:34
  grows to show like it shows you everybody kind
• 59:35
  of has to come out of their shell You know, everybody
• 59:38
  has to grow everybody has to learn who they are.
• 59:40
  I think um another thing that unfortunately is
• 59:44
  not a candid event. You need that person, regardless
• 59:49
  of if it's your friend, if it's an uncle, you
• 59:52
  need a male perspective in your life that is
• 59:55
  going to bully the shit out of you. Like someone
• 59:57
  to tell you all the things that are bad about
• 59:59
  you are bad. Like I'm not saying tell you everything
• 1:00:02
  good about you is bad, but if you do something
• 1:00:04
  that's not good, you need that person to be like...
• 1:00:07
  Stop doing that yeah, you respect constructive
• 1:00:10
  criticism and even if it's your best friend like
• 1:00:12
  bro my best friend in high school yeah Physically
• 1:00:15
  beat the shit out of me sometimes because I would
• 1:00:17
  do dumb shit just a dumb shit And it wouldn't
• 1:00:20
  even be like he beat the fuck out of me like
• 1:00:22
  he would just hit me twice and be like dude Why
• 1:00:24
  did you do that? You know fucking doing? Yeah?
• 1:00:27
  Yeah, and at some point I realized okay like
• 1:00:30
  He's your friend. Like, he's the only one hanging
• 1:00:32
  out with you. He's the only one defending you
• 1:00:34
  and being real with you. Yeah. So a lot of people
• 1:00:37
  are so insecure that the first time they get
• 1:00:39
  a real friend, they cut that person off. Right.
• 1:00:42
  So they end up in these weird spots where they
• 1:00:44
  have yes men. They have people that aren't really
• 1:00:47
  their friend and just there for the day at the
• 1:00:49
  entertainment value. Right. Yeah. Like, it's
• 1:00:52
  back to the vulnerability. It's like I'm vulnerable
• 1:00:54
  in any situation. I'm completely open book. If
• 1:00:57
  they fuck with that, then I can meet a good friend.
• 1:01:00
  If they don't fuck with that, then I don't have
• 1:01:03
  to waste my time. So it's not like, oh, fuck
• 1:01:06
  you if you don't like me. It's like, I'm just
• 1:01:08
  not gonna talk to you. Like, okay. Yeah, like,
• 1:01:12
  all right, like, cool. I wish you the best. I'm
• 1:01:14
  praying for you. But I'm not like. Yeah, you
• 1:01:17
  kind of remind me of somebody who might just.
• 1:01:19
  need a need honing like a sword like on a honing
• 1:01:23
  stone or something like that like you just do
• 1:01:25
  you just want somebody to sharpen you keep you
• 1:01:26
  sharp yeah you know and i like that too i like
• 1:01:29
  when people like i like when people give me constructive
• 1:01:31
  criticism i don't like when like i get kind of
• 1:01:34
  pissed off when people just go like oh you suck
• 1:01:36
  it's like all right that's well whatever but
• 1:01:39
  just tell me like why yeah you know what i mean
• 1:01:41
  like why do you think that i suck or like why
• 1:01:44
  do you think that whatever i'm doing doesn't
• 1:01:46
  work That kind of thing, it's like, I need more.
• 1:01:49
  I almost think that that's always rage bait.
• 1:01:52
  Oh yeah, 100%. So like, I know that, and like,
• 1:01:55
  bro, a lot of people claim to be over -thinkers.
• 1:01:58
  I don't think I'm an over -thinker, I think I'm
• 1:02:00
  analytical. I think I'm always constantly like,
• 1:02:03
  alright, this is the situation. If I do this,
• 1:02:06
  this happens. So I'm gonna do this. Yeah. People
• 1:02:10
  are like, oh, you're an over -thinker because
• 1:02:11
  you're analyzing something. I'm like, no, over
• 1:02:13
  -thinker means that you're going to over -think
• 1:02:15
  something and cause a bigger conflict for yourself
• 1:02:17
  because you're like, you know what I mean? I
• 1:02:19
  never am thinking so much to the point where
• 1:02:21
  I feel like it's causing me angst. You know what
• 1:02:25
  I mean? I'm just like, why would I escalate this
• 1:02:29
  right now? I could. If I say this, it might escalate
• 1:02:32
  this. So why would I take that chance? And then
• 1:02:34
  I'm like, all right, I'm going to. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:38
  yeah, let's run it back. I'm also a very analytical
• 1:02:40
  person like I tend to just kind of get into Like
• 1:02:43
  I look at one scenario would be like, okay cool
• 1:02:45
  Like there's point a and point B and then I'll
• 1:02:48
  just be like, okay How many different ways is
• 1:02:51
  it gonna take to get from here to there? And
• 1:02:53
  then basically like, you know by the time I get
• 1:02:55
  there and some shit fucks up then I'm like, okay
• 1:02:57
  I've already thought about that happening, you
• 1:02:59
  know, but I just like to I just like to know
• 1:03:02
  like all the contingencies and have that in place
• 1:03:04
  and stuff like that. Like I said, it's like the
• 1:03:06
  reason why I kind of make this notebook and everything
• 1:03:08
  is just kind of like, yeah, I just like to have
• 1:03:09
  everything like right there. But I learned that
• 1:03:12
  about myself through years of just fucking pissing
• 1:03:16
  in the wind. Yeah. Making a lot of mistakes.
• 1:03:18
  It's a weird thing when you have an understanding
• 1:03:21
  of things when you're younger than like when
• 1:03:24
  you have an understanding of something earlier
• 1:03:26
  than you're supposed to. Yeah. So like because
• 1:03:28
  people don't respect a young kid's opinion. Know
• 1:03:31
  I mean like right so they're like a lot of the
• 1:03:33
  things that I used that I think obviously are
• 1:03:35
  more fine -tuned now But there's similar opinions
• 1:03:37
  to that I have when I was really young mm -hmm
• 1:03:39
  So I'm like bro like when I was 12. I said, I'm
• 1:03:42
  not going to college Okay, and they were like
• 1:03:44
  why I was like cuz I can talk my way past 90
• 1:03:49
  % of the jobs that a college degree opens the
• 1:03:51
  doors to Okay, and the ones that it doesn't I
• 1:03:54
  don't want those jobs Yeah, so you you wanted
• 1:03:57
  to tackle a different area. I was like, but if
• 1:03:59
  I wanted to be a Fucking manager at a store that
• 1:04:03
  I've got no experience to I would talk my way
• 1:04:05
  in the door I'd be like bro. You don't have to
• 1:04:07
  pay me for a week and show you I'll show you
• 1:04:08
  my motor I'll show you what I could do for the
• 1:04:10
  team and just the balls of doing that and having
• 1:04:12
  the ability to communicate and talk to people
• 1:04:14
  gives you so many openings to doors that you
• 1:04:16
  wouldn't have if you were an awkward intelligent
• 1:04:18
  kid that got a straight a 4 .0 GPA college top
• 1:04:22
  of your class, but if you can't talk to people
• 1:04:24
  that You just lost so much value, regardless
• 1:04:27
  of what your accomplishments are. Yeah. My perspective
• 1:04:30
  is that I've always wanted to go to college,
• 1:04:32
  but I just didn't have it set up for me, and
• 1:04:36
  I didn't know what to do and where to go, the
• 1:04:38
  next thing. And every time I tried to get there,
• 1:04:41
  it was almost like life just cut me short. You
• 1:04:44
  know, I don't know. But hey, man, yeah, I think
• 1:04:46
  that's pretty much, like, wrapping it up right
• 1:04:48
  now, dude. But dude, like, thank you so much,
• 1:04:51
  man. I really appreciate you coming on and everything.
• 1:04:53
  Is there anything you want to put out? This is
• 1:04:55
  your camera right here. Yeah, you can find me
• 1:04:58
  primarily on Instagram, but I'm everywhere, r
• 1:05:01
  .c .prodigy. Got a new song out right now. It's
• 1:05:05
  called Can't Make You Famous. Shout out Grifa.
• 1:05:09
  Shout out Raw Creatives. Go find them, boys.
• 1:05:12
  It's Weevil. Josiah, J -Raw the Kid, and man,
• 1:05:16
  I appreciate every one of y 'all young boys in
• 1:05:19
  raw creatives today, but those are my OGs, so
• 1:05:21
  those are the ones that get the shout out. I
• 1:05:22
  appreciate y 'all. Hell yeah, dude. Thank you
• 1:05:24
  again, man. I really appreciate you coming on,
• 1:05:26
  man. And hell yeah, dude, it was definitely a
• 1:05:28
  fun discussion for sure. So, all right, cool.
• 1:05:30
  And that is a wrap. Thank you. For another episode
• 1:05:33
  of Only Bombs, hell yeah.