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LIVE: Oklahoma Sooners EMBARRASSED AGAIN In Red River Rivalry (S2 E46) · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: So on today's episode of The Sooner or Later Sports Show,
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  Speaker 1: We've got a lot of things to talk about, especially
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  Speaker 1: some of the sad feelings of another embarrassing red River.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that and what the hell we
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  Speaker 1: need to do next. We're gonna dive into this debt
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  Speaker 1: I see the smirk on your face. It doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: very happy. Believe me when I say I felt the
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  Speaker 1: exact same way. Let's get opening thoughts before we dive
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  Speaker 1: into the positional pieces and what the hell we need
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  Speaker 1: to do. But I want to know, how are you feeling?
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  Speaker 1: My man?
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  Speaker 2: Let down? I said after the Tennessee game. I felt
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  Speaker 2: like the offense let down the defense and the fan base.
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  Speaker 2: And I felt like that we showed out that entire
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  Speaker 2: stadium was stadium was just decked out with people who
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  Speaker 2: wanted it to put in their part. And I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's it's also and I've had some time to again.
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  Speaker 2: That's the good thing about the nice drive home is
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  Speaker 2: you get some time to kind of think about stuff. Here.
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  Speaker 2: Here are other people's conversations. I had late night conversations
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  Speaker 2: with with a lot of people, and you won't ever
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  Speaker 2: hear hear my thoughts that night. I did my best
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  Speaker 2: to stay off the bird app just because I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to go I didn't want to go crazy. But uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's embarrassing. I mean, I think George Stoy has
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  Speaker 2: said it on their recap. You've now gone without scoring
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown in two of the past three Red River games,
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  Speaker 2: and that's that's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. And so man, you
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  Speaker 2: know it, at least in that game, you went in going, well,
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  Speaker 2: not much is going to happen here, like everybody had hope.
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  Speaker 2: You know this week, you you you you thought that
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  Speaker 2: you started seeing some things. But it's just like Tennessee Texas,
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  Speaker 2: as as as good as the talent that they have
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  Speaker 2: on that team on defense, you're going to show so
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  Speaker 2: every single glaring issue and weakness is going to come
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  Speaker 2: out when somebody has a pulse on defense. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that stops this coming Saturday, because USC has
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  Speaker 2: got a good defense. So man, I I just feel
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  Speaker 2: let down. I feel let down for the fan base.
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  Speaker 2: I feel let down because I don't think that the
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the attention that has gone into the
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  Speaker 2: defense has gone into the offense and now it is undeniable.
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  Speaker 2: But there's so many things wrong.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, the levels of wrong is there. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: There's levels of issues that we're dealing with. Favorite thing
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  Speaker 1: gets I mean shout out to BV. I actually liked
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  Speaker 1: what he said the post game. His he was disappointed
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  Speaker 1: more in the defense than the offense, and I'm one
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  Speaker 1: with them. We tackled like crap the entire game. He
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  Speaker 1: was bad. And what's crazy to me, Coop is the
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  Speaker 1: first the first quarter was exactly the game that I
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  Speaker 1: was hoping for. The first quarter was everything we were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to do. We were up three zero, the defense
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  Speaker 1: was showing out.
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  Speaker 2: Hell.
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  Speaker 1: We had people saying they thought that Quinn Ewers was
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  Speaker 1: shook to start the gamp. He looked hurt, is what
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  Speaker 1: I kept seeing people say after the first quarter. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here at the sports book, I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: a couple of Texas fans and They're like, man, I
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  Speaker 1: really did not think that Quinn was gonna was gonna
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  Speaker 1: play play like this. I thought Quinn was you know,
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  Speaker 1: I had I was scared at that Quinn was not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be healthy. And what's funny is I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of looks like he's a little nervous. But
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  Speaker 1: then that's when that mind comes in. It was this
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  Speaker 1: top defense first and we'll dive into the offense last,
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  Speaker 1: because it's gonna be a complete complain fest once we
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  Speaker 1: start that. So feel free to drive your grievances in
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  Speaker 1: the chat. We are here for you all to let
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  Speaker 1: y'all have it. Man, I'm not going to even push
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  Speaker 1: back on anybody, So I toldly can fox Moon, I
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  Speaker 1: love this question. What was the time of possession in
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  Speaker 1: the game? Oklahoma led the time of possession thirty two
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  Speaker 1: to twenty seven. Oh my god. So one component we
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  Speaker 1: needed to have we got and then we just couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: But this leads into this coop. Sarkisian went out there
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  Speaker 1: and did exactly what you're supposed to do. Whenever your
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  Speaker 1: quarterback is struggling, you adjust, you'd make changes, and you
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  Speaker 1: know what you need to do make it easy for
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  Speaker 1: your quarterback. He recognized how the defense was playing. He
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  Speaker 1: saw what the defense was doing to him, and so
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  Speaker 1: he started to dial up a lot of movement. He
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  Speaker 1: added extra protection, and he just started dunking it, dunking
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  Speaker 1: and dunking it. The big play that Texas one to
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  Speaker 1: god was the Ryan Wing go yack he called it
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  Speaker 1: and ran. And what's funny is Texas wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: deep the whole game. That was the game plan. Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's put these this secondary to work. But then they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to. We just ran it. They just ran
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  Speaker 1: down our throat. Why Isner had over one hundred yards
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  Speaker 1: rushing in that game average nine yards a carry. He
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  Speaker 1: had like one hundred and eighteen yards on thirteen carries.
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  Speaker 1: Could we could? We didn't muddy this game up enough
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  Speaker 1: after the fact. That's where the problem comes in. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't muddy this game the way we should have. But
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  Speaker 1: what's funny is, cou guess what our defense efficiency is
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  Speaker 1: right now, give me your best gifts.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: We're tenth. Our defense is still at freaking ten. Texas
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  Speaker 1: averages over four hundred in ninety yards a game of
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  Speaker 1: I believe we only gave up four hundred and nine.
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  Speaker 1: We also gave them very short fields to be able
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  Speaker 1: to do what they were doing. No, the other problem
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  Speaker 1: lies in here to Coop. The other thing that bothered
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  Speaker 1: me on this that fumble that we caused it the
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  Speaker 1: goal line is when everything changed in this game. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it was. Man, no hustle, no grind, no push.
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  Speaker 2: It was I mean, yeah, yeah you are. You know
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  Speaker 2: the team is going down down seven to three, trying
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  Speaker 2: to make a little last ditch. Let's let's sight it
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  Speaker 2: up half time around the three and.
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  Speaker 3: Let me get the first one. And I think at
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  Speaker 3: that point, from from some of the stuff that I
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  Speaker 3: had you've been hearing about, you know, just refftables like
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  Speaker 3: this defense is now pushing that. There was people who
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  Speaker 3: made comments.
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  Speaker 1: That Coop your mic just went down real low. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why. So it's not just me, Okay, you
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  Speaker 1: go ahead of me. Okay, as we're gonna let Coop
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  Speaker 1: set reset everything up.
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  Speaker 2: But no, it.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of players the defense to me just it
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  Speaker 1: just did not look like they they had no grind
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  Speaker 1: to them. That hurt. The defense started the game off strong.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Billy Bowman pick was cool, but it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: They just looked like they had no spark, they felt.
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  Speaker 1: They looked again, They looked defeated for like the umpteenth
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  Speaker 1: week in a row. They looked like, shoot, we ain't
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to no upside of the ball because
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  Speaker 1: what was bananas is he Stutsman had that. I thought
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  Speaker 1: Stutsman was gonna get that fumble. But you saw he
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  Speaker 1: pulled up. He barely ran at the ball, silas bow
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  Speaker 1: and running across the touchdown. Then at that point you're like,
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  Speaker 1: why did you stop running? My boy? What are we
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  Speaker 1: doing that? We saw a lot of that. It was
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  Speaker 1: so many things that just everything's well apart.
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  Speaker 2: Is this better than now? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: God, you better you're back?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I let seth Miatrell set up my audio equipment.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's here we go. I mean, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: give it up. Give it up. Texas did what they
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  Speaker 2: So you come in early and that offense they you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, I thought that it was going to be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, don't put anything in harm's way. Let's let
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  Speaker 2: Quinn into a little bit. And I think that if
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  Speaker 2: you're an offense going forward against this defense, you tell
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  Speaker 2: your offense, your quarterback, your running back. Guys, we can
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  Speaker 2: let things develop because they're not going to put anything
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  Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball, and the what
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  Speaker 2: are first to you know, after the interception and the
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  Speaker 2: second possession, we got the ball, I mean within five
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  Speaker 2: yards of midfield both times, and we miss a field goal.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's just maddening. And I just think that
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  Speaker 2: if you do not okay, So, if we're going to
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  Speaker 2: turn the ball over with fumbles in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the field, and if we're going to keep on throwing
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  Speaker 2: it in harm's way and play with that twenty yard
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  Speaker 2: you know, twenty yards of the line of scrimmage, nobody
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  Speaker 2: is going to ever let these young wide receivers have
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  Speaker 2: any space at all if they do not run deep.
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  Speaker 2: If you do not take a shot. Hell, I am
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  Speaker 2: absolutely okay with two to three interceptions a game. If
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  Speaker 2: we're trying downfield, I don't care at this point. You
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  Speaker 2: have to do it because we were running that There's
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  Speaker 2: so much wrong on the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this, and this is going to
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  Speaker 2: be the most rant piece that I that we're talking defense.
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  Speaker 2: Let me back up Brent Vinnables was making. There was
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  Speaker 2: a comment that Brent Vinibles said to the defense that
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  Speaker 2: we need to in order for us to stay in
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  Speaker 2: this game, we need to cause a turnover or to score.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he says to the defense. Yep, and if
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  Speaker 2: that's if that's true, now instead of your defense just
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  Speaker 2: playing assignment sound football, now you have guys trying to
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  Speaker 2: play hero ball and they're gonna get out of position
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  Speaker 2: and it is going to happen. Because here's what's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen, Jay is now at this point, everybody knows
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  Speaker 2: the defense is legitimate and if you cannot do any
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  Speaker 2: thing on offense, these guys are going to be absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely worn out and you're not going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to play it all year long. And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: Brent Vinnimles, I think I kind of understand he's he
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  Speaker 2: has something that he can do with having a conversation
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  Speaker 2: with the with the defense and trying to get them
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  Speaker 2: jazzed up because that's his side of the ball. But
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, like if you put that type
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  Speaker 2: of pressure that you have to get turnovers or you
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  Speaker 2: have to score on defense, that I don't see that
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  Speaker 2: as the right way to do this. And it's it's
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  Speaker 2: something that like he did his first go around here,
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  Speaker 2: It's something that he did on Clemson. You know, he
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  Speaker 2: stayed in at the defense and said, you guys have
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  Speaker 2: to be the difference in this game. It's complimentary football.
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  Speaker 2: There are three phases to the sport, and you cannot
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  Speaker 2: you cannot be a complete and utter failure on one
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  Speaker 2: side of the ball. At this point, Jay, would you
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  Speaker 2: not rather have a top seventy five defense or maybe
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  Speaker 2: even go back to the Lincoln Riley days, Because if
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  Speaker 2: you can't score at all on offense but are really
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  Speaker 2: great at defense, people are still going to score against
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  Speaker 2: you in college football, They're still going to score at
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  Speaker 2: some point. So now we've seen two powerful offenses who
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  Speaker 2: literally is just like, listen, we just keep grinding. We
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  Speaker 2: have no pressure on us. Tennessee and Texas did not
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  Speaker 2: have any pressure on them because they knew that they
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  Speaker 2: had nothing was going to happen on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball. And when we get into that side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball, I think that's where I'll go off
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  Speaker 2: on my rant. But this does start with Brent Vinnables
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  Speaker 2: at the very very top.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is all I was talking.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking with Matt Blackwell and he shared his
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  Speaker 2: thoughts and I feel it. I feel it this way
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  Speaker 2: is you cannot. I mean, you absolutely cannot say that
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  Speaker 2: some of the stuff that we did in being lackadaisical
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  Speaker 2: on n I l for the offensive line and then
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  Speaker 2: for the wide receiving and then doing the Buddy system
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  Speaker 2: and bringing in Latrell and Joe John Findling. You were
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  Speaker 2: trying to freaking win a national championship and that's the
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  Speaker 2: whole reason why you came here was to bring a
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  Speaker 2: defensive defensive dominance back to Oklahoma. And then you go
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  Speaker 2: out and do those type of a hires. That's not
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  Speaker 2: That's not how this stuff works. Nope, it's just it
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  Speaker 2: just isn't. And so now, yes, we still have an
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  Speaker 2: uber amount of injuries, a lot of injuries, and that
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  Speaker 2: that does play a factor in here, but we've now
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  Speaker 2: had a healthy offensive line. Let's just call it what
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  Speaker 2: it is. Those guys are at best good and not
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  Speaker 2: not good in all but like good at one thing
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  Speaker 2: or the other. When you don't throw the ball downfield,
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  Speaker 2: you're never going to have anybody's nobody's ever going to
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  Speaker 2: loosen up on you. No, it's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And until that starts happening, this is going to happen
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  Speaker 2: the next week and the next week and the next
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  Speaker 2: week and the next week. And I will say this,
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  Speaker 2: firing anybody right now in the middle of the season,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that that is going to be something
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  Speaker 2: that fixes anything. It's not going to be. And if
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  Speaker 2: you do it right here in the middle of the season,
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  Speaker 2: now you're taking this offense which really is not good,
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  Speaker 2: and you're telling them to learn somebody else's new stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And from what I'm seeing now is they can't seem
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  Speaker 2: to execute, you know, anything with any consistency. And so
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where to go from here.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, I feel let down. I feel let
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  Speaker 2: down as a fan base, and I don't you know,
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  Speaker 2: you are going to have changes at some point this year,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that it's going to probably be towards
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  Speaker 2: the end of the year because at that point you
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  Speaker 2: let the college football world know and whoever else may
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  Speaker 2: be coming, you know, taking a step down from the
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  Speaker 2: NFL or something like that, you need to make a
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  Speaker 2: splash higher because somebody you're going to have to sell
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  Speaker 2: belief that you actually mean what you mean business to
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  Speaker 2: do this and doing the internal buddy system, you know,
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  Speaker 2: connections to Oklahoma. So, you know, I've seen some people
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  Speaker 2: saying like, hey, if Lincoln gets fired, you bring him back.
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  Speaker 2: We're there as a fan base. Really everybody hated that dude,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: hated that dude for the past three years, and now
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  Speaker 2: people are like, bring Lincoln Riley back, as you're oc like,
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  Speaker 2: that's how bad our offense is. So it's almost like
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  Speaker 2: coming home and finding out that your wife is a
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  Speaker 2: escort and secret and you drown your sorrows by going
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  Speaker 2: and hiring an escort.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, So I just don't see. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: see how you can give so much thought, effort and
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  Speaker 2: focus on one side of the ball and absolutely just
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  Speaker 2: go discount shopping and thrift shopping on the other side.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, feel good, feels good, feel better. Got the
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  Speaker 1: got it, got it, got the ring going, got got it,
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  Speaker 1: got it, got it, got some of it out. It's
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving every defense.
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  Speaker 2: The defensive side of the ball. It's not it's not
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  Speaker 2: their fault that we freaking lost. Get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: But again, what was it?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: In iron into the villain guy says, if you can
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  Speaker 2: make God bleed, people cease to think that he's God,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what he says about Iron Man and I
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  Speaker 2: and that's that's now. What this defense is is everybody
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  Speaker 2: knows that the defense is really, really good. But if
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  Speaker 2: you could say, hey, listen, they're not gonna provide anything
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  Speaker 2: on the other side. So you just keep on doing it,
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  Speaker 2: you will win eventually, and that's going to happen. So
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  Speaker 2: all gotta do is just not make mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'll get you there. Shout out to South on
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  Speaker 1: Main Arts and Culture for the ten. We really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna pause and read this real quick. Really upset.
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  Speaker 1: So on the fifty yard line, Oh you beat Texas,
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  Speaker 1: we could be we can catch your hello on com
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  Speaker 1: Friday sect and sell out of Fletcher. Seriously, how many years,
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  Speaker 1: legitimately will it take to come up with something. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't know. It's gonna take some time.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna need to move into a new era of offense.
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  Speaker 1: Someone that can carve up some of these sec defenses.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be the focus that what's gotta be focused on.
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  Speaker 1: I know everybody wants and I'll talk offense in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still talking defense for now. But The biggest thing
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: right now in the defense and why I, like BVM
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: disappointed in them is they missed a ton of tackles.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: The tackles they miss they missed, and that's what they've
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: been good at this year. We upgraded that part, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we were missing tackles left and right. We were missing
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: substantial amounts, and that to me is bothersome because that
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: takes away one hundred percent from what the defense execution is.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: We weren't filling gaps like we normally do. We didn't
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: we weren't getting pressure. After Texas added additional protection, it
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: got to the point where Texas was adding protection to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: make sure Quinn had just enough time to get those
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: those short passes to his fourth and fifth option down.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: They ended up being able to pull those protections because
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: we just weren't getting pressure anymore. The starting point was
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to protect get Quinn going, get him grooving, which is
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do as an offense and a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. You're supposed to let your quarterback get to grooving.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And our defense just did not adjust it. They looked defeated.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: They looked defeated before the game even really got going.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: That's the bad part. It's go through the first quarter.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: You a really good job of Like, Okay, we muddied
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: up things. Our offense outperformed their offense in the first quarter.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: We muddied it up the way we needed to muddy
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: up cause I knew it wasn't sustainable our defense. Then
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: they fell apart. Let's talk offense. I've got a lot
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• 23:41
  Speaker 1: youse offense ate the problem. We gotta be all right,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah for me, the offense. I said it before. We're
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: gonna move away from Littrell. It's gonna be after what
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do. You're gonna have to get
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a boutie on the trail brain moving forward. I know
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: why they did it. I know who signed off on it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I know why, the purpose of it and why it
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: went down, but that's not what I expected after two
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: weeks of prep. But I'm gonna say this, and this
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a controversial taking. A lot of you
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: will not like it. There was a lot of new
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: offense ran. The play calling was not terrible. We did
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: not execute on any of the new stuff that was offered.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: We tried to run a speed option with a quarterback
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that isn't a speed option guy. We ran a little
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: bit of a two back sets and do some shovel
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: paths stuff that just wasn't prepared for a freshman quarterback
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to do even better on that cool We didn't even
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: try to really throw the ball deep, even when we
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: had the time to do it. The passing protection wasn't terror,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible. It was one of
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: those that if you dink and dunk properly, you're gonna
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: get the defense to back off of some of their pressure,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: or you'll be able to read when they're gonna do
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the blitzes and you can throw a quick slant get
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: rid of the ball. Gavin Salchuk was open a few
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: times and so it was Javonte Barnes on some quick checkdowns,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: but we never got to that part of the progressions,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and it was because the progressions were moving slow. A
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: lot of the plays require too much time to develop.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: But I saw saw Chuck wide open on a real,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: real route. You'll see it. There's a few people that's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I think the snaps guys are gonna break down the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: plays and they're gonna show you all the open stuff.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I saw pet Away open a couple of times, not
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: only across the middle, but on the outside. I saw
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Sharp get opened a couple of times across the middle,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and then when we did throw it to them, we
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: made some catches and did it. We weren't leveraging getting
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly at all at all. That's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: what it was for me. Yes complain about the play call,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and I totally understand the grievances everybody has on that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I watched the plays. I went back and rewatched, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I looked him like, this, dude's wide open. There, that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: guy's wide open. There, he's open.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I saw it live, and a lot of people in
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the stands saw it live. And that was the biggest
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: complaint in the stands was there's he's open, another one,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: another one, another one, and you know, sometimes people were
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: like freaking out because sometimes yes, a guy's running wide open,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: but running back doesn't get the right chip that he's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: supposed to do before he goes out in the flat
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: because he's too it's just undisciplined and it literally looks
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: like there's not a there's not an urgency on the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: offense for discipline and and so so, yeah, do I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: think that next year can't do? I think next year
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: can be better. Yes, I do think next year can
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: be better because again, you're running two or three wide
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: receivers out there at a time, right your first five
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: are all out. Doesn't look like that's going to change
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: anytime soon. Adding one dude back in isn't going to help.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing is Purdue and for everybody yelling
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: for Graham Harold to come here, Graham Harold just got
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: fired from Purdue. So everybody sees, you know, more air
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: raid stuff. I don't. That's not an answer because Purdue
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: went out and throughout forty nine yesterday the week after
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: they fired here afterwards, So does that make sense? Does
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that make sense to everybody? You know, so there needs
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: to be an actual national search on offense. But I
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: just say this is when you have the offensive a line,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: those guys just are not good and guys that I thought, I.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Don't know, man, there were a lot of protection there
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that they he had time real quick, Cozy, Thanks for
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the two bucks. We appreciate it. Oh you identify identical
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to that twenty twenty two Clemson team. You're probably right,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: but I saw they had protection. There was open dudes,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: there was. It was more get rid of the ball
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: type things to me, and I get you. You don't
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: feel like the issive line was good. I don't think
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that they were bad.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: No, they weren't bad. They just weren't good.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It was very and I think that there was perfect
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: opportunities to get rid of the ball and actually do something.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: It's it was just everything topped the bottom was just brutal.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Just bed.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You're still executing the play.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: You're still asking us who when it's not consistently on
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a certain level, he's going to get the yips, But
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it also doesn't look like he's willing to make a mistake.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And at this point, that is where I'd rather make
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: a mistake downfield. And so if yours coming in here
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and you're saying, like we told you OU was gonna
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: go oh and three in the conference, listen, man, Yeah,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: this offense sucks and you look right, but not you
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: were just trying to be a troll like OU doesn't
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: look good on offense because there's been like nothing that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you could hang your hat on this entire year. On offense,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: you can't run the ball, and then the moment that
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you get these long runs, you cough it up and
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: then there's no desire to go downfield. It all. It's
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: just more of the same. So we have to What
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to see is you're gonna have to
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: have something to where you can find confidence in something
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like you got to find somewhere. You know. What did
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I say after Tennessee is identity? Like what what is
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the identity of this offense? And I think right now
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that needs to be the that needs to be the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: rallying cry is because will they look better against South Carolina.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to see it before I start thinking
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. Because if I tell you, go ahead,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: if I tell you that these are the things that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: are gonna happen on offense because South Carolina, I'm making
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: shit up. At this point, Jay.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Became no clue what's gonna happen none.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Now the only bright spot for me on offense is
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Zion Kearney Zon Kearney. I think he had led the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: team in receptions.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: We had four catches for forty five yards. I thought
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it was good that we got to see him actually
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: make some catches. So I totally understand that. I like
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that we we got him actually going. Okay, I think
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you got any snaps he had and you know what worked,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Coop real quick. This is a great question here, Coop,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: how many times did we even throw the ball? You know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: any times we threw the ball thirty times we threw
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the ball thirty times, we dropped back to throw the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: ball thirty times, nineteen for thirty not a bad percentage.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: He's only four point nine yards per past and we
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: never went anything for the most part. Deep and truth
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: is crazy, is right? What's crazy? Y'all were running the ball?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: That outside zone worked.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: The outside zone worked. And here's what was lighting us
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: up is we came out and we would run the ball.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And here's another thing is where I was talking about
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the discipline is you run the ball, you get good yardage,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: then you run the ball again and you get good yardage,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and then you line up and you get a penalty.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And I think that the Scoop guys were saying on
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: their postgame deal is like the moment that you get
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a penalty on offense, it almost feels like there's zero
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: chance that you're gonna score that drive. It's getting ten
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: is hard getting fifteen or twenty, like help me, Jesus.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: But it just looks like on offense they're scared to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: make a mistake, and then when a mistake happens, it's
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: deflating because you've seen such little success all year long.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: And if I go in here and I say Hopkins
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: through for one forty eight, Quinn through for one ninety nine.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: If you would have told me we lead time of
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: possession and Quinn you were so is for one hundred
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: and ninety nine yards to start this before the game started,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I would have had a smile on my face.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Twenty for twenty nine six point nine yards, a pass,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a touchdown, an interception. Quinn was just managing the game.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: And that's no shade on Quinn whatsoever. That's but that's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do when you're going up against
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a defense that you're wondering about. Right, that's not bad.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what you're supposed to do. That Our Sarkesian
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: is smart. He recognize, hey man, we're gonna run down
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: your throat. We're gonna have to run it. We haven't
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: established a run. They're not playing to stop the run
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: this game because we haven't been running very well this year.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do. We're gonna try to figure
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: out running the ball, but we're gonna get Quinn time
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to throw quick passes the way that he what he's
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: really good at. They scripted that beautifully. That's what you're
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: supposed to do. That's what we did not do. Thank you,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: John Kennedy for the four ninety nine. We greatly appreciate it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Texas finished the game one hundred
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and seventy seven rushing yards five point nine yards a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: carry overall three touchdowns. But the crazy one is Silas
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Bowden got kind of for a touchdown because he picked
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: up a fumble in the end zone. Quinn Crechevion Weisner
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: ate us alive thirteen carries, one hundred and eighteen yards
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: with the forty three was a long. He ran the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: thirty six yarder that we caused the fumble on. It
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: literally was like, look, look, look at the way that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: they were playing. Texas played that bad boy smart. We're
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: out coached on that part too. Offense wise, that's why
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: you lose your top five wide receivers. You're playing all
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: your young guys who are all coming back from injuries
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: as well. Remember Brendan was dealing with some stuff last year.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I think he had a concussion in the bowl game,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: but he was dealt with some stuff last year with
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: his hamstring. JJ Haster has been out two years. He's
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: just now coming back. So we started getting guys that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: was getting themselves in a groove. Then we didn't use them,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: So then you started playing the freshman like pet Away
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: was dealing with some stuff. We've just hit the We
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: literally are the two thousand and nine Sooners, like everything
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: about it. Oh nine Sooners. For those that are uninitiated,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: If you don't remember, Sam Bradford gets hurt right for
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the BYU game. I'm sorry. During the BYU game, literally
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the first possession, I'm sitting in the stands in, Jerry
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: cirkis next to some guys from BYU. They're excited because
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: they're celebrating their twenty fifth anniversary of the National Championship,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: their silver anniversary, and I'm just like, what, it's been
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that long. That's crazy. Then they go out there and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: punch us in the throat, take out Sam Landry Jones
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: comes in, and the team just never is the same there.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Now that team finished eight and four, got lucky. I
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: don't know how we if we get if there's a
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: path there, of course, but we just got to start
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: buckling down. But this is the thing that's gonna make
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of people mad and real quick to Coop.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Tell your pops, I said, happy birthday. Shout out to him.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Shout out to your dad, Tell him happy birthday. I
• 35:27
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• 35:29
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• 35:31
  Speaker 1: happy birthday. Feel bad that he had to deal with that,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: But so let's let's talk about what's next, Coop. What
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: do we think we should go ahead?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Before they did that, I do want to give a
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: shout out. So I'm downtown right, you know, going to
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the fair, and I go into Starbucks and I meet
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: a crew and I had to write down their names
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: because I was bad. But Kent Chelsea and a fella
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: who came from Tokyo last night. His first football game
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: was that game. He's never seen a football game before.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: And uh that was a terrible US.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Fella named Daiki and uhh man, I just you know
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you guys, thanks for coming up and having to have
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: a conversation. It was it was pretty fun. You know.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I will say this is I enjoy enjoy this. But
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: as a fan base, guys, I want us to do
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: one thing. Let's focus on us for for a little bit. Okay,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: uh instead of talking trash on other teams everything like that,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: we we need to really focus in on on this stuff.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And again I I just I got to give a
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: shout last shout for for for Trey Wisner because they
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: found something on film and when they run that outside zone,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: that stretch play, they knew to get the uh get
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to the outside and continue to put the pressure on
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: uh on the the linebackers running to the sideline and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the defensive backs running out to the sideline. And so
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: there there was they found something in that and it
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: was working really really well. You know it was the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: first time that I saw anybody run a consecutive play
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: that was you know where they got good. And also
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the touchdown to Gunnerhilm, that was that was a beautiful,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: beautiful play call.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I said that Gunnerhelm was leading receiver against Michigan a
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: really really tight defense, and and he was the leading
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: receiver this week. And so yeah, Sark did a great
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: job at that stuff. And again, I just this defense
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: is good. This defense is very good. But it's going
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: to be hard. It's going to be hard for them
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: to to continue to be anything close to elite if
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: if there's just they're out there all the time and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: every single you can't play. They even when they talk
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: about base ball in an aspect of like a pitcher
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: can go out and throw one hundred and twenty pitches
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: if there's not a lot of high stress pitches. But
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: if you're always pitching with a guy on third base
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: or a guy on and running, you know, scoring position
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: with one out or no outs, that's a higher stress
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: you know pitch, and so it takes a bigger toll
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: in the body. And that's what's happening to this defense
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: is they are absolutely out there thinking that, and I
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: think that's with RSJ running late on the field, Texas
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: snaps the ball, he's not even in position. Weisner goes
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: right past him, and that's just that's tough things. So
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: it is going to uh, it's going to have to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: be a deal to where on offense, Jay, I think
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: going forward was what you're trying to.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Ask is, Yeah, don't worry about that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Let's find let's find something to hang your hat on.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right now, it's all about moving forward. We're going
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to figure out what we're going to do to get
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: better and fix all the problems that we have on
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the offensive side, and fix the mental morale and the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: mental play of what our defense has. They they don't
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: play like they're happy. They play like they're upset. They
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: play like they think that things are not gonna go
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: very well. Then this is here. Here, here's something. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: don't have silver linings from this game. I don't even
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: though there are there. There are there when I went
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: back and rewatched, there's a lot. And even our resident
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Texas fan, who I'm wearing this shirt for, I lost
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the bet to him. I told him I would wear
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: it on my stream on this one till I wear
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: it here because I only make bets for my own show.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I don't do it for other ones. Come on, now, truth,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you should know that you was just trolling me, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I know that, but I'm meant to make sure that
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you understand that I know the we're trolling. No need to.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: My day was bad enough. I don't power on y'all.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: You can at least give me that grace, my boy,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: at least give me that grace. But anyway, he pointed out,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: we weren't running back, and those were the new wrinkles
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that you did see in the play call. That was
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the new stuff you did see. Those Those are those
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: multiple types of outside zones that we ran. That was
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the new wrinkles you saw. And guess what we saw success.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Your problem is is that then at that point all
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you gotta do is stack the box and blitz in
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: certain spots. Which this is this is like for real,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: like for real on this part. The genius on PK
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: on his defense was he had Anthony Hill spying Hawkins
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the entire game, and what he would do was is
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: that Hill's job. And this is my interpretation. I could
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: be one hundred percent wrong, but it just looked like this,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to me, find the hole that Hawkins can run through.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Phil and be there.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: That's it, and just be there. And he did it
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: every time, every single time. And it looked like Hawkins
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: got to a one redben run mentality because he was,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you know, feel like he's running for his life. But
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: when he had time, he's sitting there and then he
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: decides he's gonna run instead of hell standing there and
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: waiting for him to run like you know some spots
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: would traditionally do. He found the hole and then he
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: went and filled it, and then he started to go
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: after the quarterback, which makes it even tougher. You see
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's what made it even tougher. That
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: was perfect. It was perfect defense. And shout out to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the homie fanatic perspectives. My boy Steven talks talks a
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: bunch of noise, but he pointed this out, and I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: think this, this, this is where I don't think our
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: offensive staff took in consideration. Coop. Who did Tended Texas
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: play before they played US?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Nobody?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: No, who did they play before the game? Actually not
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: by week, but who did they.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Play before the Mississippi State?
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they played Mississippi State. Who's their quarterback right now?
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: It is Van Buren, freshman Michael van Buren with the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: head coach of Jeff Leby. That literally was the perfect
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: script to watch for us, since we were implementing a
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: lot of Lebby's stuff for Jackson Arnold, and of course
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: we were doing that with you know, Michael Hawk as
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you have to. They basically took the game plan that
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: they saw with Michael Michael van Buren, and they said
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: watch out for that for him as well as what
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you've seen with Jalen Milroe. They just combined both of
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that and said, he's gonna tuck and run. He's fast
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: enough to do it, but what you need to do
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: is fill the gap and make him work for it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: They did all that. It was defensive side.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Another another cross sport analogy. In high school, if you
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: go with your right hand in basketball, and you go
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: to your right every skill time and you are just
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: dominant at it, but your left is kind of eh.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: When you get to upper end college football, basketball or NBA,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you better learn how to go to your left because
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: if you can't go to your left, then people will
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: push you where they want you to go. Now they're
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: dictating your play and that's That's another thing, is that's
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: why I want to find out where where we have
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: this opportunity to find something you work on, because yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: it's I do not think that this listen. I think
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: that if you have all of our wide receivers out there,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: this thing looks different. How different, I don't know. But
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: when it's been play calling, offensive coordinator, quarterbacks, shifting, offensive
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: line injuries, wide receiver injuries, it's it's hard to find
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: your starting point. Where is our launch point from from
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: just an offensive side of the ball. And I think
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: that on the offense side of the ball, I'm with
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: everybody in the chat is I don't know if there
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: is a person on the offensive side of the ball
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: right now that is uh that is exempt from major scrutiny.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: And I mean I said it, I think a couple
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago that at this point, I mean, you
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: have a job interview for the rest of the year
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: and it's not for us at this point. You got
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: to show somebody that because I don't think that this
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: is redeemable from a coaching standpoint, and talent evaluations too,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: we've seen way too much of this. At this point,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: you know, there's everybody points at Ryan Williams on Alabama
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and says, hey, a freshman can be a big piece, Yes,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: this way when there's around him. But when you have
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: a bunch of brand new starters out there who have
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: never played on this team together with a freshman quarterback
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: with offensive line injuries, yeah, that's it's hard to rely
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: on that. So I don't want to burn any of
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the freshmen yet because that that just seems silly.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: But it's not fair to it's not fair to them
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: right now, and they don't. They weren't. They weren't running
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: with the ones like a Ryan Williams, a Ryan Wingo,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: A Cam Coleman, a Jeremiah Smith. None of them were
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: running with the ones. Immediately, we had five dudes that
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: were supposed to be hit and none of them are
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: playing now. So no, that's no excuse. It's just tough.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to and at this point, this is
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: exactly what I'm thinking that Vb's gonna Bev's gonna have
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to micro manage the offense moving forward. Leave Zach Alli alone.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let him take care of it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Very I think Ali is fine right, like, our defense
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: is better than last year's defense and our offense is
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: non existent. That's what's crazy to me. Even in the
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: raw numbers, raw numbers, we're still moving up out of
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the hundred zone defense. We're actually in the seventies and forties,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: something that we haven't seen. And even as with the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: raw numbers, efficiency were still ten. Zach Ally is fine.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: He makes He makes offensive coordinators think. And I like
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that BV needs to go micro managed the offense moving forward.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I know that he's a he's a he's a defensive
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: guy heart and that's what he hangs his hat on.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: And I agree with him that he needs to that
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: our defense should have played better, he should have tackled better.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: That seems they'll work on now. And you're right, and
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you said this, and this was probably one point that
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't think about, But I love that you made
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: BV basically putting all the weight on the defense like
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: that at this point is very much unfair. And you
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: can tell that they're not about that life. It's not
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that they're not good enough to do it. They're like no, no,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: He's like no, it's not they're not that they should
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: not have to carry the load this much at all
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: like that. They should they should have.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: To no, because you're gonna see a lot of soft
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: tissue and other situations will start happening. These guys are
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: not going to continue to kill themselves if there's no
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: if there's no reason, you know, again, we're not gonna
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you keep I mean that right now. If you're if
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: you're an opposing offense, you say, hey, we get to ten,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: we're good.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Yep, that's it. That's it right And no, Blake, he
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: hasn't lost a locker room or I mean a fan base.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: So he lost fan base when he got hired, but
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: he's not a lot of the fan base, not everybody.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: A lot of you also recognize that he's exactly what
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: you want. You want someone that's going to have that
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: intense mentality and the one that parents actually love. That
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: helped a lot with recruiting. A lot of people don't
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: understand not to compare the two, but Nick Saban was
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: beloved by parents. He was beloved as a recruiter. That's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the part that you also have to do. He does
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: very good with the people part. He also has a
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: problem to where he pushes everybody too much, too so
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have to balance that. You gotta do that now.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: This is funny, sad. Thanks for the two bucks. We
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Mark Mangino is not doing anything right now.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody wants to touch the Mangino
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: situation after you know the quote unquote potential issues he
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: had with students. Not sure if you want to touch that,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: but you know, hey, that that's kind of what that is,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I coop. As we're wrapping things up, man, I appreciate
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: everybody being in here. Shout out to our partner, Prize
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Picks for sponsoring the show. We if there's anything I'm
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: gonna go back to is really talking about. Just put
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: it this way. I know everybody wants the OC fired.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent there with you, but listen
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: to me here. When Hypel got fired, Hypel was an
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: OC for like three years. He had three or four years.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: He was Timed Stoops, Mark Stoops, I'm sorry. Mike Stoops
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: was DC for at least a year and some change
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: before he got fired for six games into the season.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Because of the hand that was dealt, They're not gonna
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: just fire him, not only mid season, especially because you're
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: not hiring anybody right now. You're not. There's no one
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: to hire. Put this way, not no one to hire.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: No one that you guys want can get hired right now.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody's leaving their current teams to take a job right now. December, yes, October,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: not a chance. You're not gonna get anybody to leave
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: their jobs right now. As much as I know y'all
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: would love and you know, throw as much money as possible, no,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it's not possible. Nobody does that. Nobody does it. That's
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: why you don't hear about it. Like I've heard people
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: throw out NFL names and I'm cracking up. I'm like,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: you think they're gonna leave an NFL job right now
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: with like no real work. I mean, they work hard,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: but they get off seasons. It's why you see college
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: coaches trying to go to the NFL. They don't have
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: the recruiting problems. They go through. They do their job.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: When players come through and they're done. Your problem is
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta start vetting out, doing a national search.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm telling y'all right now, in my mind, they're
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: doing that right now. They've already begun the research. They've
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: already hired a firm. They're sending people out, they're getting feelers,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: they're watching film, they're finding the next one. They're doing
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: it now. But it's gonna take the rest of the season.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: It's just what that's how it works. They're gonna give
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: him the full year because of the cards that he
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: was dealt.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: And nobody's gonna go, well, hold on a second, your
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: your top five receivers are injured, your your your tool
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: bag is empty, and you want me to come in
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: and fix it. Like nobody's gonna take that. They're gonna
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: want to. But again, I do say that this is
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the conversation. These conversations are going to heat up into
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: November December, because you need that for the recruiting standpoint.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: It's going to be very very big, uh, you know,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: for for that to happen. And I think that this
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: I've heard it, seen it in the chat, and I've
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: seen it you know, in Twitter. But this this this
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: offensive higher, uh, you know, and moving forward with the offense,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: this is going to determine Bev's entire tenure here. And
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: you know this, the first one could go south, the
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: second one cannot right.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: The high if y'all want a good one, You're gonna
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: have to wait to December.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could put a.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Band aid on it and try to find somebody right now. Look,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I've taught the Graham Herrow piece. I understand that I'd
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: bring him in as an analyst just because I saw
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: what he did in North Texas and what he did
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: at USC. He had some good offenses there. He sucked
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: at Purdue, he was bad. Ferry Murray, thanks man for
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the two bucks. Dame kim bev and said to get
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: a pass with four receivers out, five receivers out, And
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you are one of the many people that are not
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: giving him a pass. My boy, you're not. That's the problem.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: You're not. Many of the people aren't gonna give him
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the pass. And I understand if nobody wants to give
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: him pass. My point is, again, as I continue to reemphasize,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: they're not because of the delt cars that he's dealt.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get the rest of the season. He's just
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: gonna have to get off of He's gonna stop being stubborn.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It feels like he's being more stubborn than anything. He's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: gonna stop being stubborn. He's gonna to open it up.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: But I would love to bring an analyst in, another
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: offensive mind analyst. I mean, I wouldn't mind Graham Harroll
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: coming in as an analyst. You know, he's former leach
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: just to just to be around and give hey, this
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: is a good way to do things. And he's actually
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and Blake, Yeah, he's actually the one that works with
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So if everybody's complaining about they like the
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks to be fired, he's the one actually working with
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks right now. Just f yi, A lot of
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: people don't don't get that part. He is working with
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. That's the beauty of that new rule that
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: remember that new rule that came out where like analysts
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: can actually be on the field and they can actually participate. Yeah,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Kevin Johns is working. He ain't just sitting around. He's working. Now.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: At this point, it appears that we need to let
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: want let him probably take a little bit more command,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: just so that we can adjust to our minds set
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and hopefully you can just expectations. I don't know, we'll
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: see what BV says later this week. But and and truth,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: thank you for saying this, because I literally get a
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: message once a day, how many, how many? How many
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: recruits for we losing on this one. Recruits that have
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: already bought in to BV in this school, they look
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: at it the exact same way. This wouldn't happen if
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I was there, and they're ready to go out there
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: and take somebody's job. That is what majority of these
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: players have said. And I know people that have talked
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: to the recruits and that's exactly what's coming out of
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: their mouth. Yeah, I want to get in there, so
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I take this job. Oh you're saying, I can play
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: as a freshman and I can help propel us again.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I would love to be a savior of this school. Boom,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: put me in, sign me up?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: What So you're gonna be surprised at them sticking around.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I know, for Susi's probably thinking that now. He's like, shoot,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I'm about to be I can't. I really can't start
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: because he knows how hard nose beating bow is. But
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: he's looking at that like, wait, y'all for real, have
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: a chance to start. Oh, I'm gonna walk in there
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and start taking some spots him and Fog. That's exactly
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Yep. That's uh, well, we'll see. I mean again, I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: think that, uh you're gonna hear if you want to
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: hear hear any fired up Brent Venables and you want
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: to hear him going crazy against people, it ain't gonna happen.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna go out there and light up and
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: light up everybody. Nobody wants to come work for somebody
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: like that. Who's gonna get just tossed under the bus.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: You've seen guys be Benji hookem horns buddy, there you go.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing, man is is Texas did what
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: they were supposed to do. They come out there and
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: and they they they won the game. Now, I will
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: say this, Texas fans, the Baker Mayfield thing and the
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: plant and the flag like that was weird.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I can undersume if they did Stutsman, I totally could
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: have got it. If he did it with Stutsman's jersey,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: that would have made it. I would have gotten it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: If they would have went ahead and bought the shirt
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: and did it to the shirt, that to me would
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: have been better. Yeah, that would have been better.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: It would have been as about as relevant as you
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: guys grabbing one of this shirt and doing it like
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I'm a little confused.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Do please do my shirt? Please do that? Then may
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: she let them know where to find it too? That way,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: you know we can we can, yeah, get more of
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: those sales going out the door. But no, that that
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: that is very that's true. Cool, that's that was That
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: was that.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Baker Baker's is not the one Baker said living rent
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: free for ten years.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Now, That's exactly what he said. It's funny. And because
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just I was really confused by that.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: So that's the only one where I'm like, you know,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: because I they were showing that and we were out
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: the Magnolia Beer Garden and Jaxicon by the way, that's
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: that's where I spent quite a few minutes out there,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and I had was talking with a friend's friend and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, I had a few few beverages on the house,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: uh for about three hours. So but I will say
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: this is what I he'll say is when that happened,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: they showed that, and one of the Texas fans was like,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: that doesn't really make sense, and so I thought, man,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: somebody had an idea. They rolled with it, but yeah,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: it's something else. Do it something else. If you would
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: have had a Stutsman shirt or something like that, that
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: made a little bit more sense. But hey, congratulations on
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: the wind and guess what, back to work because both
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: of us we got we gotta, we gotta, we got
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: a gap to close and now you guys got Georgia
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: and so.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Midland it is. Yeah, the shirt is.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: But hey, I told Truth I would do it on
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the live stream. I hold up my end of the
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: bargain of the bed. I gotta be careful making bets.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I gotta make sure these people back up my bets
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: for me. Come on sooners win for me, so I
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: don't have to do, you know, bets like this. Oh man,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: all right, Coop, going time with family. I actually now
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: it's time for me to actually go to work, which
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: is even more hilarious since I'm traveling. But thank y'all
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: pulling up Truth. We'll do this bet again next year.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Don't worry. I'm gonna find a way to be able
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to post. You're gonna have to send me a picture
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: in the shirt when we beat you out next year
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: so that I can post it on the show and
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: let people know that you're rocking it. But no, it's
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: all friend you know, all friendly when it comes to that,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I know good people when I see good people. But
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: thank y'all for pulling up. Shout out the prize picks
• 58:26
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• 58:30
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• 58:32
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• 58:42
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• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to work Coop for Coop for myself.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: We will chop it up with y'all later this week.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: We'll be back live again and we'll start talking about OC's.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I guess we can start looking at lists. Darn you people,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: We talk to you guys. Peace