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Why Are Galactic Cowboys Suddenly Relevant Again? · Classic Metal Show

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, this is Monty from Galactic Cowboys and you are watching CMS TV.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: No, we are not amused, goddammit.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: It is your classic metal show.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: And that was the Galactic Cowboys with I'm Not Amused.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Before that,
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: a little Iron Maiden reincarnation of Benjamin Brieg,
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: Slayer with Seasons in the Abyss and Amorphous with the Lantern.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: And at this time, Sir Matt, it is time to bring on our first guest of the night.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: He is the bass player and the main writer of the Galactic Cowboys.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: They have a brand new album, What Planet Are You From?
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to say his name right so I don't look like a total dick yet again.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's Monty Colvin.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: Monty, how are you, brother?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, doing great, Chris.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's good to see you, my friend.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: What's up, Monty?
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: How you doing, buddy?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: Good, man.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, it's okay if you want to call me Connor,
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: because I can talk about some new bands I'm signing.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, all things Roadrunner.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: There's this deathcore rap band that you're working with today, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love to sign them.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: We're right on the verge of getting that good exclusive deal with them, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Them and Goat Whore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, Monty, obviously, man, it is an exciting time as a fan of the Galactic Cowboys.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's an exciting time.
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  SPEAKER_01: You guys picked it up, you know, after way too long away.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know that little thing that sidelined us all for five years kind of was part of the time away.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you have brand new release.
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  SPEAKER_01: What planet are you from?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: It is fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_01: I told you this the other day when we did the Chris Akin Presents interview.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: Love it, man.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: And you guys are back, man.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I hate to say that because it almost sounds like I'm saying,
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  SPEAKER_01: well, you did a lot of shit and now you're back.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: But no, you guys are back after, what, nine years or something.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's great to have new music.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our last album was in 17.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we took this long hiatus after one of our last albums for Metal Blade.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like 2000.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we didn't do anything together except play a few shows here and there
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  SPEAKER_00: for like 17 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so anyway, we took another seven years off,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, and grew even older.
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  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, we did a Kickstarter, as I told you the other day, and it worked.
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  SPEAKER_00: We got the money and we went into the studio.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think we've made one of the best albums we've ever made.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know everyone says that about their new album, but I truly believe it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't sound dated to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just sounds like...
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, great, fresh stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we're getting some great reactions from our fans.
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  SPEAKER_00: And hopefully everyone will feel that way.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, dude,
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  SPEAKER_01: Matt and I were talking off air yesterday because we were,
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: you know, we were getting ready for you to come on.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I threw him the album.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: I hope that I hope you don't send the police after me because I forwarded him your album.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: No problem.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we were talking about your Kickstarter,
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  SPEAKER_01: and I know I didn't even talk to you about this in the interviewee interview
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  SPEAKER_01: that we did,
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  SPEAKER_01: but $88,000 raised,
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  SPEAKER_01: dude, that says a whole lot more about the staying power that you guys have.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you think it is?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's not just the music.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a zillion bands that have a lot of great records that are not going
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  SPEAKER_01: to be able to put a Kickstarter out there and raise almost 100 grand.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it the way that you guys have kept in touch with your fans and interacted with your fans?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you think it is that has kept them so engaged and so hungry to help out
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  SPEAKER_01: to bring the band back?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it surprised us, too.
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  SPEAKER_00: We didn't know, and they came through.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: of course,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, they say that all, you know, they've been saying that for years.
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  SPEAKER_00: You guys ought to do another album.
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  SPEAKER_00: You ever doing another album?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, and, you know, for a while we've just kept saying, well, you know, how?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have the money.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't have a label.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, how are we going to do it?
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, we finally...
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  SPEAKER_00: Thought to do a Kickstarter and give it a shot.
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  SPEAKER_00: We didn't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been doing the podcast, you know, talking about us for like 17 years now.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: Wait a minute.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: Monty's Rockcast is 17 years old?
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not kidding you, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I started it in 2008.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did not realize it was
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  SPEAKER_01: that old.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: maybe that helped just keeping,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, people, you know, in touch with us and talking about the old stuff.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, they just...
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  SPEAKER_00: Stayed with us all these years.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now they're playing it for their kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, it's amazing to us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we appreciate it a lot.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, Monty, I mean, you just mentioned, you know, record labels.
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  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you guys have been on some amazing record labels over your career.
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  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, Geffen, one of the biggest ones ever.
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  SPEAKER_02: Metal Blade, I mean, the biggest underground metal label.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, the first one.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then of course,
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  SPEAKER_02: even Mascot, which is, I mean, these days, that's a really good label to be on.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_02: like there's not a lot of labels out there for them to come to you guys and say,
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  SPEAKER_02: hey, we want to put out a Galactic Cowboys record is great.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: Now you said that you're doing this on your own for the first time.
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  SPEAKER_02: How has the experience been so far?
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  SPEAKER_02: Obviously,
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  SPEAKER_02: it's like you said,
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  SPEAKER_02: you don't have all those people back and you're doing all the work for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know you got to do all the grunt work,
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  SPEAKER_02: but talk about how you guys have been,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: you've been enjoying or is it kind of,
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  SPEAKER_02: I know it's a lot more work, but just talk about the experience so far.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the recording and all that was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: We just had such a blast doing the album and all that was great.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was probably the funnest I've ever had making an album, most enjoyable.
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  SPEAKER_00: But after that,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: putting everything together is when we kind of started realizing,
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  SPEAKER_00: wow, we're the label and we've got to do all this now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: my fiance and I have been,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: packaging everything and,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: literally putting it in the sleeves and putting the label on it and,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: and And,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: the other guys are doing their parts and,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, but yeah, right now it's just all within the band.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're, you know, booking our own gigs and, you know, everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's been,
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  SPEAKER_00: that part's been kind of a learning experience,
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  SPEAKER_00: kind of,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's been kind of hard at times,
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  SPEAKER_00: but still we're making it happen and we're bound and determined.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I did,
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  SPEAKER_01: for a little while,
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  SPEAKER_01: I was running Dawkins' website,
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  SPEAKER_01: and Don put out that solitary solo record that he did,
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: the acoustic solo record that he did, and he had me run that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he sold about 5,500 CDs.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he sold a ton of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm curious if you have this experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was packaging them up.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had my kids packaging them up.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had everybody doing the packaging and throwing the labels on it and everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Man, every day I was going to the post office and they would see me coming
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  SPEAKER_01: and I would literally see people closing their windows because they just knew
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  SPEAKER_01: that I was coming with like 500 packages all over the world and they knew
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  SPEAKER_01: that I was going to be in front of them for the next hour.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you feeling that same kind of a crunch?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, a few weeks ago, I went in with the first one.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just took one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I go to this place that's not really an official post office.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of this post office within a store.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I took it in and I asked her to mail it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I go, okay, now I have about 400 more of these that I need to mail.
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  SPEAKER_00: How can we work this out?
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  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, just bring in like 50 at a time and I'll just do them.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'll call you and you can come in and pay for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she was just awesome to help us like that.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how we got around that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so...
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  SPEAKER_00: It can be done.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would hate to do that because most post offices that I've been to,
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: you know, they're not real cooperative with stuff like that.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, like I said, I mean, I'm not kidding.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: I would be coming into the post office and I would watch them.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they do that side look thing.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then they would be like, oh, they put the little thing up next window, please.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: And they would go in the back because they didn't want to be the one.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not this guy.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: And it was every day.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: That was the problem with it.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was every day.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because Don had put it out there that it was only going to be available for
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: a really short amount of time.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: people were buying them and people,
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: some people were buying like five and 10 at a time.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't even like,
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: it wasn't even like they knew the weight or whatever,
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: where they could just punch it in real quick and just punch in the zip code.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: It was, well,
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: this one is two and this one is four and this one is one and this one's Australia
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: and this one is...
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, England, and this one's Wyoming.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: It was just a nightmare.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: They hated seeing me, and I ain't gonna lie, I hated being there, too.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: It really wasn't worth the money that Don paid me to do it.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: It sucked.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: You know what we did is my girl Alex said, you know, let's just take her coffee every day.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so on the way to the post office,
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: we'd pick her up a coffee and we'd come in and go, here you go.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then we'd hand her a pile of stuff.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: So we kind of made it a little better that way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right on.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't get to the post office much anymore,
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: but I remember they used to have, like,
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: when I had my label,
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: I used to do that, mail-out CDs, and they used to have, like, a side thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was like a machine.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so instead of going to the counter,
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be kind of like embarrassed because I'd have garbage bags of CDs,
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: you know, packages.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I would just sit there and do them one by one in the machine
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: where you could just put it through the chute and everything right there on
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: the side.
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  SPEAKER_02: But then there'd be people waiting and they're getting pissed off
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  SPEAKER_02: because they have like one package and they're like, well, fuck this.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: Now I got to go wait online.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: Do they still have that?
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's a kind of a way you can kind of get around that probably.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they do have those self-do-it-yourself things,
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: but we had way too many to go through that.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just didn't want to be that guy that was standing there with the pile
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: that everyone was standing behind,
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: you know, so I would just leave them and, you know, come back the next day.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Right on, man.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, dude, I don't know that this even happened today.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: I literally,
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: 10 minutes before the show,
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: I was just flipping through Facebook and stuff to make sure all
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: of my notifications went out about the show tonight.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I saw pictures from a meet and greet.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Did you guys do a meet and greet this afternoon?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: We did.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: We told all the people in Texas that if they wanted to come to Houston on, you know, today...
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: That we would sign all their stuff and they wouldn't have to pay for postage.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it saved us going to the post office.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right on.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Just drive for $30 worth of gas and you can save $3 on an envelope.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's great.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they had fun.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: We took pictures and hung out and they enjoyed it.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you guys have always been that way, man.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Even back in the old days, man.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, even when you were on major labels and had the MTV and all that other shit,
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: you were still play a show,
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  SPEAKER_01: come off the stage,
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  SPEAKER_01: shake the hands,
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  SPEAKER_01: sign the autographs, even before people had phones and were taking pictures.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: How did that not wear on you, man?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know most bands,
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: they do it when they're young,
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: and then they're just like, I really just don't want to do this anymore, man.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: How did that not wear on you like that?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think we enjoyed it, you know, at least at the beginning, you know.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: you still run into those people that,
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: just talk your leg off and you don't know how to, you know, end the conversation.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, for the most part, people are just cool.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And we've always just, you know, wanted to be real with them, you know, just...
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like how I would like to be treated if I met some rock star that I liked.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's the way I've always wanted to be.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: I still do that with anybody that messages me or emails me or whatever if I meet them in public.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to be myself and myself.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: Be nice, be cool with them.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so it doesn't take that much energy to do that.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we've always done that.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: If we're opening for somebody, we play and then go hang out and just meet the people.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, man.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Monty, I was telling Chris yesterday, by the way, yeah, the record is freaking killer.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: Man, I was listening to it today.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: He sent it to me.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_02: I really think this is like a great time for you guys to put this record on.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of reasons I think that's because...
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: Just for instance, I'm 50, 90s guy, right?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: And when you guys were coming up in the pinnacle of the band's career,
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: someone like myself,
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: I was into really more heavy,
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: hardcore-y type of stuff, anger, piss, and vinegar stuff.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: So with you guys, I loved your music.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember at the time,
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: I think, I mean,
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: the thing I couldn't probably get into at the time was the melodic vocals
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: because I was just such an angry dude.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: Fast forward now.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's a total opposite where I love the melodic vocals and I don't want to hear
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: the anger shit anymore.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think really with this record and just with your guys' sound the way it is,
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: because a lot of people have missed the boat on Galactic Cowboys over the years.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: I do think that this is a perfect time because people want more of that sound
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: and style that you guys have like myself.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: I totally love this.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: I was telling Chris, I'm like, I'm doing a total deep dive back in the whole catalog right now.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think this is a great time because I think it really can open you guys up.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's up to a whole different audience that,
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: like I said,
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: it's that nostalgic 90s time and people are looking for bands like Galactic Cowboys
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: to kind of like, oh, wow, this is a band that slipped through the cracks.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't really hear about it as much.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so, I mean, what do you think?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, have you gotten some new fans from back in the day
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: that maybe just overlooked you guys and now are becoming fans of the band?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so far, the only people that have really heard it that much are our fans that donated.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: We filled all the orders for people that made the album possible.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And now in the next two or three weeks,
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: we're going to start putting it out there for everyone to hear.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: But it's hard to say.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't know how people will take us.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think, yeah, like you say, I think there's a lot of people that would just really dig it.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's got thrash elements in it,
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: and yet it's got very melodic choruses and vocals and harmony vocals
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: and all this stuff that I've always loved about bands that I listen to.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I've just kind of tried to take things and put them together
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: And form something kind of different.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I think we did it on this, man.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: I just love it.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Do you want it to hit?
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: And what I mean by that, of course you want people to like it.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: But do you want...
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: To have to go back to being a full-time band guy again.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, do you...
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because I know you do your art,
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: and I know you love doing your art,
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: and Lord knows I always shill it because I have a piece literally in the other room
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: on a wall.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I love your art.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: No offense to the Galactic Cowboys, but I think you're a better artist than a musician.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, your art is fucking spectacular.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: It really, really is.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: But...
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: That being said, I'm thinking back 15 years ago to when Rock, LaHoma started up.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: And you saw, I mean,
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: you saw the big bands of the eighties that were getting the love,
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: you know, the Slayers and the Motley's and blah, blah, blah, or M3 is another one.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: You saw the big ones,
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: but you saw a lot of those bands that fell through the cracks that got a lot
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: of love.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden the spread Eagles of the world and the icon and stuff like that.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, now that it's progressing to the nineties and two thousands era bands,
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: Your band is primed to be one of those bands,
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: but do you want to be one of those bands?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Do you want to have to go out there and chill and play and play Joe's Shitshack
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: before you play a festival the next day, or is that just not where you're at now?
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think the days of touring for months are way over, but...
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: But we would love to, you know, play as many shows as we can.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, festivals and stuff like that, we would love to do.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: if we could get on some of these,
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: you know, cruises or festivals or whatever, that would really be kind of...
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: You know, perfect for us.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: We mainly made this album just for the love of it.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: just the pure love of making a new album,
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: of writing new songs and just putting it out for people to hear.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: And if our fans were the only people to hear it, then, you know, that's just the way it goes.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: And we would probably be OK with that.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, we'd love to grow.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: We'd love for our audience to grow and We're ready to play.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, we're going to play in December here in Houston.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: I fully believe we're still going to go out and completely crush people.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: We may be old, but we're still very able.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's really my idea of what would be really great.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: If we could just end up on some great shows and just see some progress,
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: you know, just see our audience grow a little bit, I would love that.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: Did you guys play a lot in Europe at all, Monty, back in the day?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we did like two or three months with Anthrax in Europe.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: We opened for Anthrax for...
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how many weeks,
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: but we were over there for a while and a couple of months, I think.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: And, yeah, it was great.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we went over well, even with Anthrax.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: we weren't nearly as heavy probably,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: but still, you know, their fans over in Europe really took to us.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And, yeah, that was great.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because that would be great if, you know, you guys could get on some of those.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, that's where a lot of the major festivals are, right?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that would be a dream come true.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: I watch those festivals on YouTube all the time,
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: and I just always think, man,
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: that would be so awesome to just go on first band of the day or whatever
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: and just play one of those festivals.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: That would be tremendous.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you've played big festivals before, haven't you?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't you play...
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Donington or Dynamo or one of those things?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was Dynamo back in the 90s.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that was incredible.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: A sea of people.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we went on in the afternoon and tore it up.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to share this real quick with the fans to see that I'm not bullshitting.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: There's my Lemmy that was...
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's painted by the great Monty Colvin here.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: Just a great, great piece.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, it's so funny.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: I have it hanging like right next to my door when people come in.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, it is, I mean, you listen to the show, obviously.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: You listen all the time.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: And Matt, you know me.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: This is a perfect representation of what you think my house would be.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: It is the absolute.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember when I saw it on your site five years ago or whatever,
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: and I was just like, I got to have that piece.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: I remember telling you that.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I have to have that piece.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: And you were like, well, I'll just send it to you.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, dude, come on.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then I don't even remember what we did.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what we did.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you sent me your books.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we did some kind of a trade, but I was going to buy it.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I want this piece on my wall.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm telling you, every single person that comes in my house, they're just like, yep, got it.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's awesome.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wanted you to have that, man.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: You needed to have that.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: I did.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it is a great, great piece.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because it's Lemmy and you have the books,
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: in the very first page of every single one of my books,
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: I dedicate it to my dad, my grandfather, and Lemmy.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, every single one of my books is dedicated to those three people.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: So to have this Lemmy portrait is just so cool to
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: have, man.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, dude, let's talk about, you know, we were talking a little bit before.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to just only do Galactic Cowboys.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: We'll swing back to it.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: Talk a little bit about what you're seeing because I know you're a big,
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: outside of being in a band,
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: you're a big fan of this and you go to shows and you mix it up and get on
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: the floor sometimes and you do your thing.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: You hear me and Matt just kind of railing on what it is these days with
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: the old bands and should they quit or should they not quit?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: You guys aren't 25 anymore yourselves.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, we're not.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that there should be an age limit or an experience limit
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: or do you think people should be able to do it as long as somebody comes in
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: the door?
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I think there's exceptions.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like Matt said,
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: Iron Maiden would be one,
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: where they just,
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: you know, They're still doing it just as good and they still look great.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Or at least Steve Harris does.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: He still looks amazing.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: And they've still got energy, still running around.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: For something like that, I don't care how old they are.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I've definitely seen some bands on YouTube.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: That I, you know,
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just have to cringe a little bit and just go, oh,
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: you know, man,
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: it just, I mean, yeah,
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: when they're totally gray and they can't move and all that,
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: you know, it may be time to stop.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I think the one thing that bugs me the most is probably all these bands
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: that only have one member left, one original guy, and that bugs me.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wait a minute,
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to push back on that,
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: and I'll let you keep going, but I'm going to push back on that.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: Put me wrong.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying right or wrong, I'm just saying...
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: If it's better, if you get one guy or even no guys, I'll even go to the no guy card.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: No guys are one guy,
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: but it sounds great versus having the four original guys and it sounds like shit.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: What is better?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll give you this.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: It might sound better somehow, but I'm not going.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'll give you an example, Kansas.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: One of my favorite bands when I was a teenager and all that,
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: and one by one,
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: they kept losing guys and they kept replacing them,
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: and now there's maybe one, maybe two original guys in the band.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone else is somebody I don't know or Don't care about.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: And to me, that is not Kansas.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so I will not listen.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: I will not go.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just the way I am.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you replace one, maybe two guys, but it's still the core is there, okay.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: But man, when it...
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like I saw a video the other day, a live video of Sweet.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: You remember them?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: I interviewed both versions of Sweet in the last year.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: This amazing band back in the 70s.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: And now I think they're all dead except the guitar player.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Andy Scott.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: And he's completely gray and just...
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, okay, is this sweet?
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: No, I can't call this sweet.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's just me.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: But don't you think that most people,
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: and again,
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just playing devil's advocate a little bit because for me personally,
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: and it's the same thing with tracks versus not tracks.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'd rather have tracks all day long and have a good show
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: than have some singer out there going, you just got lucky.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: I believed your deadly lies.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: I would much rather Don Dockin...
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_01: Have tracks to sing or mimic or whatever.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: I would personally rather get a good show than the mystique of,
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: well, this is the guy that sang that song in 1980 whatever.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: and I don't know,
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: I know old heads for the most part feel like you do and I think Matt's in
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: the same boat on that one actually.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: But for me personally, I just like the songs.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's not so much that it's this guy or that guy.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's, man, I love that song.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: And at the same time,
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: because now I'm going to contradict my own self,
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: and then I'll turn it loose to both of you.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: I will not pay.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of money that they're asking for these days for a basic tribute band.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: If there is only one guy or no guys or, you know, I wouldn't pay $300 to see today's Bon Jovi.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: I just wouldn't do it.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's just stupid.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: But I would go for $30 and I would see a decent Bon Jovi tribute band
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: because I like some of those songs.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so I think it's a weird line.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: Do you agree or do you think that it depends on who the people are?
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, could Tico Torres' Bon Jovi, that's one guy, would that work?
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Or is that totally stupid?
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Versus a no guy...
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Bon Jovi tribute band or Phil X's Bon Jovi because he joined at some point later in life.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just can't do it.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm not going to go.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to go see Journey without Steve Perry.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not going to go see Foreigner without Lou Graham.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: I just I can't do it.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: But what do you think it's the core?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: It needs the core.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's the core.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was telling, I saw Toto about a month ago, but it had Steve Lukather.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: It only had one original member and had one of the singers,
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Joe Williams, who was there for a bunch of albums in the 80s.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this was good enough for me because I had one core member.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's at least the – when it comes to something like Chris is talking
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: about, I would say neither.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't see neither of them.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't even choose.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be like, neither of them.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: I guess everyone has their, I guess, line they're going to draw.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_02: I just think it's – yeah, I think it's silly, most of it now.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: How about this?
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: I saw a band on YouTube the other day, live, playing a recent show.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to bag on them.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was a band that used to have a song called Working for the Weeknd.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I just watched it and I just went, oh my God, this is just so embarrassing.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't that they sounded terrible, but it was just the whole look like,
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: oh God.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Mike Reno looks like me these days.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's not a good look.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's bad.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: And still wearing the headband and all that.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: And just...
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: It just looked really lame.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and not only for that,
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Neely and I covered a show of theirs about a year ago,
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: and we literally watched,
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: like every time he hits a high note,
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: you can watch the keyboard player hitting a key because he's clearly got
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: the high notes into the keyboard.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: And we literally isolated on it for like a half hour just every time Reno would do
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: that high scream part.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, you see the keyboard player like.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: And look.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: I like everybody else.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I sort of like Loverboy.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: When Mike Reno weighed 160 pounds, he still sounded like he was always getting ready to cry.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that all by itself made me not want to like Loverboy.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I liked him back in the 80s.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: I liked him in the day.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I used to play those songs in a cover band, you know?
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's like...
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: I, you know, I don't hate on them.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, more power to them.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: They're still out there doing it.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, it just does, you know, makes me cringe a little bit.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I just never want to look like that.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't want people to look at me or my band and go,
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: oh, you know, God, what's happened to him?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right on.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Monty,
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: as somebody that's sort of,
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: not sort of,
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: that is in the scene,
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: do you have,
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: and I'm not going to ask you to name names on this,
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: but do you have friends that you've made in the business that you see
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: and you're just like, oh, dude, come on, man, stop.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can't think of anybody too much that I know of.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I can't think of anybody right now, but no, I mean,
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: it's mainly,
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: you know, just,
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: the Deep Purples and,
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: bands that are just really getting up there that,
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: you know, I'm like, it just doesn't look real great anymore.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know,
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think like for somebody like Deep Purple,
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe just don't have the band in the video as much if you make a video.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because some of the music sounds pretty good.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: But they just look so old at this point.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I know it's probably coming for me.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll be there maybe in a few years or whatever.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: You will not be on stage at 80 years old trying to fucking swing your hair.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's not going to happen.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: I've only got three more years, Chris.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_02: Come on.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's right.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm 67, not 77.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're right.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: I probably won't be.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I want to ask you,
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to take it back here to your podcast, to the Monty's Rockcast.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: Your most recent episode, it was a real, obviously that was a very personal episode.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: It was fantastic.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: I suggest everyone to really check that out.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I really, I love that.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: It was obviously, I won't talk too much, but there was something in there.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: I always want to ask bands that were sort of attached to this.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: I know it can be sometimes a sensitive thing,
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: but obviously it was the band,
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: Galactic Cowboys,
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: really being attached to the whole Christian metal label over the years.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: And you talked about it on the Rockcast.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously,
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: you talked about before you were even in Galactic Cowboys,
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: you were in a band that was in the real Christian music sort of world,
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: and you didn't like it.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: You saw a lot of the corruption that was going on and so forth.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: But that's obviously something that you guys were always kind of attached
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: to you guys back in the 90s.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: And what's interesting,
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: when I think about you guys,
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: was right when you guys put out your last album before you took your long break
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: in 2000, all of a sudden, this whole Christian metal now thing was mainstream.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: Bands like P.O.D.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: and Creed and Skillet and everything,
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: it became kind of cool all of a sudden,
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_02: where in the 90s,
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think when you guys were coming up,
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: it was sort of like no one really wanted to have that.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying you guys did,
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: but just in general,
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: it wasn't something that a lot of people and bands wanted to be attached to.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I have to think, I mean,
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: did that,
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: when that happened,
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: did you kind of like shake your head and be like,
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: whoa, we were literally just on the cusp.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean,
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: maybe if you guys would have stuck around,
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: that could have been something you could have,
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: attached yourself to,
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: because like I said,
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't want to talk too much about it because I know you do
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: a great job explaining all that in the podcast itself.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_02: But talk a little bit about that when you saw that happen.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: Was that something that you guys were kind of like, man,
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: we were just right there and then all of a sudden this thing takes off by
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: the time we are taking this long break?
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, we,
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: when we started the band,
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: we didn't want to be classified as a Christian band or a Christian metal band.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't because, you know, we hated Christians or anything like that.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: We just wanted to be taken legitimately as a,
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: you know, just a band that was out there in the world.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: Going against the big boys.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: So we didn't even think about being on a Christian label or anything like that.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: And we never really tried to
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: Focus on that as any kind of marketing thing or anything like that.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, a lot of people, you know, knew we were Christians.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then as I talked about on the podcast,
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: the older I got,
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: I got into my 50s and just started,
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: doubting everything about my life and, you know, Christianity and everything.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I really just left it for years and,
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: you You know,
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: so during COVID and through all that,
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of saw that, you know, I just really become a really horrible person.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I just, you know, I felt like I needed to regain my faith in God.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I just kind of went back to believing again.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: But we're still kind of the same way.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you want to call us a Christian band, Okay, we're fine with that.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, they put us on the cover of a Christian metal magazine this month.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, hey, great.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: We're proud of that.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: We're fine with that.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: And if, you know,
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: somebody wanted us to play some kind of Christian festival,
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: we'd probably do it, you know.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: But we still don't market ourselves that way as,
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: you know, we're, you know, this Christian band and that's who we are.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're just...
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: We're just guys that believe what we believe.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that if you would have been over the top,
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: because the bands that did have success with it, Put it over the top.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the obvious one is Striper with the throwing the Bibles out and the 316
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: or whatever it is on the cover.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a fan of them,
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: but they do have like a biblical verse on the cover of every album and whatnot.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: They were so over the top with it that it got them attention.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I would point to, Matt mentioned Creed.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Creed was another one.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Put it way up front.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: That we're a Christian rock band.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: They weren't a rock band that sang Christian songs.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they put it way up front there.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that maybe in hindsight,
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: and obviously can't go back 35 years and change it,
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: but if you guys would have named every album Thessalonians 2.5 or whatever,
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: maybe you would have had more success than you did because there was a perception,
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: but it was almost mysterious to where people didn't understand how to relate
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: to your music.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, yeah, who knows?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the thing with us.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: We've just always wanted to write about whatever we felt like writing.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: if it happened to be about God or it happened to be about,
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: you know, crop circles, you know, we just did it and, you know, put it out there.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: And we've just always believed in the integrity of God.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know,
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: we never had any kind of thoughts of having that kind of agenda or,
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: wanting to fit into that certain category just to try and sell albums or something.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: We never wanted it to be a gimmick.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: And we just wanted to be who we are, you know, just people making music, just a band.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it hurt us or whatever, we don't know.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: But we've still got a lot of Christian fans that like us,
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: you know, just based on some of the songs.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: You've got a lot of devil worshipers, too.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it's probably all equal.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, hopefully so.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Bring on the Slayer people.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: Bring them in.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: If you buy albums, we're glad to have them.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: Monty, did you ever meet or play with any of the guys from Pantera?
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_02: Being from Texas, obviously, a band that was from there.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, in the 90s, they were obviously, yeah.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: Did you ever?
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny because some guy,
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was last night,
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: we were out at some show,
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: and some guy came up and he was like,
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: yeah, I remember when you used to play with Pantera.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: You guys used to open for Pantera.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: And he said it like over and over.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: And we're just sitting there going, okay.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, we never played with Pantera.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Not one single show.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: But we did know them.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, we met those guys before they got signed.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: They were just playing clubs in Houston.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: And they played just these, you know, metal clubs.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: And we'd go and see them like every time.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember one night we went and hung out with them afterwards.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, Phil was hilarious.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: And we played him some of our stuff off the first album.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, Dimebag was like, yeah, hell yeah, man.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: And we were like, oh, this is so cool.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: Pantera likes us.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_00: So that was kind of the extent of it, though.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: We used to hang out with them and knew them.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then we had the same management for a while.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Concrete management.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, that was our only connection, though.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: They were Texas boys, and we got to hang out with them a little bit.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: But that was pretty much it.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: How has that Texas scene changed?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because it seemed like,
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: and again,
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: tell me I'm crazy because I'm not from there,
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: but it seemed like in the early 90s to about the late 90s,
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: not now, but it seemed like everybody knew everybody.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: You'd always see,
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know,
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: Jason McMaster would show up at a Hellstar show,
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_01: or you would show up at this show or that show,
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_01: and it seemed like it was really a tight-knit show.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: Community then.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I think there's still some of that now,
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: but it's just with the guys from Sons of Texas always seem to show up at
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: a Texas Hippie Coalition show and that kind of thing.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I think on some level it's still there, but I get the impression it's not.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: How was it then?
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: How is it now?
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: And when did it change if it did?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah,
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_00: back in the late 80s,
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: early 90s, there was a pretty good scene here, pretty good metal scene.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I used to go out all the time and see all kinds of bands.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: I was never that close to anybody other than,
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: like, the guys in King's X. I knew them.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, I didn't hang out with a lot of the other bands.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: But there was some good stuff.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then I left in the late 90s.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: I just moved to Kansas City and lived there for years and ended up in Colorado
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: about five years ago.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so I've been away from this scene for a long time.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I've come back now this year to Houston,
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: and I couldn't even tell you what the scene is because I don't go out and see
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: the local bands.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know if there is still a scene?
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: There is a scene, yeah.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is there?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: There's a really cool club there called the Black Magic Social Club or something like that.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: I hear there's a great band called Warlong.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: Check them out.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's actually a burgeoning scene going on there.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: Two bands, Warlong and Stone Nomads are really, really good bands just to give you.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, cool.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Houston, I know,
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_02: is not really traditionally like, I mean,
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_02: obviously you guys,
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: you had Hellstar,
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: but And it's mostly been like,
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: everyone that's from there has told me it's mostly like either country
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: or hip-hop type of town.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_02: And there really traditionally wasn't like a consistently,
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: obviously the Grey's Easy Tops, but consistently there wasn't a huge metal scene.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: This is what people tell me, obviously.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, there's a cool scene going on there now, yeah.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's always been a lot of blues and stuff like that.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not really into that.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I don't really know, like I said, what the metal scene is.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, and plus, you know, I'm older now.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sure.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: when I was,
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: in my 20s and 30s,
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'd go out like every night, you know, seeing some band roll through.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: And now it's just like,
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: I get a call from somebody at You know,
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: eight in the evening and I'm just like, dude, I'm about to go to bed, man.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_00: I have no interest in going out and seeing a band right now.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right on.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: What do you get more of a thrill from these days?
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: You have this album.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's great.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: You've acknowledged it yourself.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: You think it's arguably the best music that you've done.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: Or...
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: Do you get more out of really,
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: really conquering the image in your head and putting it on the canvas?
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, one is just strictly me.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's just I have full control of just doing whatever I want, that being the painting.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it's just kind of my own thing.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I can just look at it when I'm done and know that I did it and I can be proud of that.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, and hopefully I'm not disappointed in what I just did.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, the music, you know, it's, you know, a lot of it starts with me doing demos.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I just,
• 49:38
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• 49:43
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• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: And man, there is so much joy in that.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: They both have their pros and cons.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: I would almost think it goes the other way.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like the music is maybe more satisfying because you have to take something
• 50:04
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• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I know me.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: And with my books, I've had a couple of people that have helped me with editing.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, because I'm the worst at actually rereading stuff and...
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: Punctuation and whatever is always just fucked up.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: Or I'll have a thought in my head and it won't kind of come out on the paper.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: And then when the editors read it, they're like, well, I don't understand what you're saying.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: And they'll throw it back to me.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: And for me personally, I get more satisfaction out of that.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_01: Not so much them correcting me,
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: but for when they read something and they're like,
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: okay, I'm If you add this, it'll make more sense.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: Then when I add it,
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: it's just better because then it's like, okay,
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_01: I had the right thought,
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: but I needed a little bit of guidance and it became even better
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: than what my thought was.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: You in that boat or no?
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think so.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I...
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: The cool thing about these days is you can get a lot of instant satisfaction
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: with Facebook and the socials and Instagram and all that.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: I can get a painting done tonight and have it on Facebook tomorrow
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: and have people go, wow, I love that.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's really cool.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas with the music, we've been waiting two years for somebody to hear this stuff.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: So one takes a little longer,
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_00: and I mean,
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: there's a certain amount of satisfaction you get to with just the collaboration
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: with other other people,
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: working with other musicians and seeing it come together and having their input.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's that's really cool, too.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it's I love them both.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_01: What gives you more satisfaction?
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to ask you to be honest on this one.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_01: Don't give me the, the fans are great.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to hear that one.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: I want the honest answer.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: Do you like when you get the ass kiss, which you get all the time?
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, dude, this is great.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is wonderful.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, your band's the best ever.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I know you hear that.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you heard that 50 times today when you're at the meet and greet.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: Or do you like when somebody says, you know what?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: I would have liked this to be this way or I don't like this.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: Do you thrive off of the constructive criticism or the absolute troll hate?
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know for me,
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: and again, I'm only throwing this me, I'll say what I feel and then you tell me.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: I really don't care when anybody tells me how good my books are or my interviews
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: or any of that stuff.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say that it's like shitty or whatever, but I know I'm good at what I do.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need someone else to tell me that.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm much more inclined to listen to somebody say, man,
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: you softballed that interview really badly because then I'll go back and I'll listen
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: to it and I'll be like, All right, maybe I did.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: I got to work on that.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: I got to get better.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_01: And that's kind of where I love the criticism.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: I love the, as long as it's not, you're a stupid fat fuck and you shouldn't be writing anything.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: That I don't want to hear.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_01: But if they tell me something about one of my books or about something that I did in
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_01: an interview or whatever,
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: whatever I'm working on,
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually better with that than I am the shameless ass kiss love.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_01: You know, where do you stand?
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because you get the same thing, I'm sure.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, any,
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: and I think any praise you get is,
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: you have to take with a grain of salt, but,
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: and just,
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_00: appreciate it,
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: if it's something good and,
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: you know, think, okay, good, you know, but, you I mean, I'll be honest, man.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: If I get negative comments about some of that stuff,
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: usually my reaction is, what the hell do you know?
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_00: I've been doing this for like 40 some odd years now.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_00: I know what I'm doing when it comes to songwriting,
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: and I'm pretty knowledgeable about music and the music industry and so forth,
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: or especially my paintings.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: Man, if somebody starts nitpicking my paintings, I'm like, what?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, I've painted 3,000 pictures at this point.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, are you kidding me?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: Unless it would,
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: now if it was some,
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: really amazing artist that I totally look up to and he would critique me in
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: a professional way.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_00: But if it's just some guy that, you know, doesn't do art, I'm usually like, What?
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: Who are you?
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_00: I probably should change my ways on that, but that's kind of the way I am.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: You probably get that a ton now from the social media, obviously, with everything.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's the art, too.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's because people feel like they can just say that shit on our social media,
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: so I'm sure you get that more than that.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we got a song on the new album called Mr. Know-It-All.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_00: And it's about it's about, you know, losers that go on Facebook and troll.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just like, you know, get a life, you know, keep scrolling.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, I just it's not something I do.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if I see some band that I hate, you know, has a post on there, I just keep scrolling.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't bother to go on and dog them and try to make them feel like crap.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's because everybody...
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of painting... Go ahead, go ahead.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was just going to ask one question about your painting real quick.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to ask one of the weirdest requests you've ever gotten from your paintings.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because obviously you get a lot of requests.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said,
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_02: I know during COVID especially,
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_02: you talked about on your podcast that you got a ton of requests.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_02: What's one of the weirdest or oddest requests?
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_02: Some guy messaged me years ago and wanted me to paint his dog and I was like, okay, sure.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_02: And he sent me some pictures and I go, okay, cool.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then he goes, okay, now I want you to put a hat on him
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I like a pipe sticking out of his mouth.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: And then could you please put a taco sitting in the yard by him?
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: And if possible, could you just kind of have it floating through the air?
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: And lo and behold, I ended up doing it.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: And pulled it off and he loved it.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_00: But that was one of the weirdest.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_00: But there are some times, man,
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_00: when I get some requests where I'm just like,
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to do that.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: Some guy wanted me to put his whole family on top of that dome in Vegas, the sphere.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_00: The sphere, okay.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he wanted me to put his family on the top of it or something.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: I just got so confused.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was just like, dude, I'm sorry.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't do that right now.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe someday come back to me, but right now I'm going to have to say no.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, with the art that you do,
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: how many people are accusing you of using AI at this point?
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: And where do you land with the AI?
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, no one's really accused me.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_00: Actually,
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_00: what I use it for sometimes is just when somebody like
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: that has some whacked out idea, sometimes I will just... Punch it in or whatever.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and just see what it comes up with so I can get kind of an image in my head
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: of what maybe it could look like.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't have them...
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's got nothing to do with what it ends up being.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know,
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_00: for some information,
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: as a tool to kind of,
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_00: you know, help you get something going, you know, I don't mind it for that.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_00: But it is kind of,
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_00: it's kind of discouraging sometimes to see some of this AI art that just looks
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_00: so incredible that you know it's not real or no one painted that, you know.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_00: But hopefully people still like the real stuff and we'll keep having me do stuff
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_00: because they know it's real.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: The real stuff is always going to have its place.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's funny because I openly use AI for all the art that I do for the CMS and whatever.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_01: I proudly say it.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know why?
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm not an artist and quite frankly,
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: When I was doing it by my, you know, it's always been me doing it, always.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: And before it was shitty thumbnails, and now it's better looking thumbnails.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that stuff you do looks cool.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, I was going to ask you, did you do an AI of me on the ad for this show?
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_00: That was funny, man.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: I saw that and I had to take a screenshot.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'll send you the intro that I made because it's not only a screenshot,
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_01: but then I have me, you, Matt, and Florentine singing.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_01: Singing an intro that I also made in AI just for the show tonight.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm of the belief of,
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_01: for AI specifically,
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_01: if you used to pay somebody to do your art and now you're doing it for free
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: to save money, I think that's kind of shitty.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: But if you don't have any help,
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: like for me,
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing the work of 15 people to get this show and all the platforms and edited
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_01: and all this other bullshit.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have time to sit there and make AI cover art that's going to look like shit
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: on top of it.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean,
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: that's the other piece of the puzzle is, well,
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_01: not only is it time consuming,
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_01: but it's going to look shitty if I'm doing it the old...
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_01: Drag-and-drop,
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: cut-and-paste way,
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_01: that's going to look like garbage compared to everybody else that is using AI.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: So in my head,
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: my thought is, well,
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to get better at AI art than everybody is, but I'm never going to sell it.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't do that for a cover of one of my own books or something that I would sell.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: But for something that's free anyway, it's no different than me talking.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's, I'm giving it to you for free.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_01: You want it?
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_01: Take it.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: You don't?
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: Fine.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_01: But, you know,
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to stop using it because some asshole's like,
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: why are you doing AI slop?
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_01: You suck.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, blow me.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think that stuff looks cool when you do it, Chris.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_00: It looks good stuff.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_02: And you did the artwork, obviously, too, Money, to the new record, right?
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_02: I saw the YouTube video you did about that.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, good.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_00: I did.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: I did that.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of showed the whole process from beginning to end.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I thought that came out cool.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: All of the art.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, have you done all of the artwork for all of the records?
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think yes, right?
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of started during the Metal Blade years.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_00: When we were on Geffen,
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: they'd always fly in some photographer from Time Magazine or something like that.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I'd have really cool paintings and they'd go, yeah, it's all right.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to use somebody else.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: So when I got with Metal Blade, I asked Brian, hey, could I do the covers?
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, yeah, sure.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because Brian's really cool like that.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right on, man.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Monty, why don't you give the plugs, man?
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: Where can people go to buy the new record?
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_01: What planet are you from?
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: And anything else from the Galactic Cowboys?
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, it's not actually out there yet.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: Give us a couple of weeks,
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_00: and we're going to try and have it up on all the platforms
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: where you can download it,
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_00: pay
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then we're also gonna have the album and the CD for sale on
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_00: the Galactic Cowboy website, hopefully soon.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, that's basically that.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can hear my podcast on moniesrockcast.com.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_00: And my website is monicolvinart.com.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_00: If you have any questions or you want to commission me, just drop me a message.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_01: And don't be cheap fucks.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_01: Buy stuff.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_02: No AI.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_01: No AI buying.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_01: Especially the art.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_01: I can't say enough about the art.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_01: The art is fantastic.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I love the band.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_01: I've told you that a zillion times.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a fan of the band, but I'm a worshiper of the art.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, as far as art goes, I'm not an art eye guy.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_01: Most art that I look at, I'm just like, man, that's fucking garbage.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_01: I just do that.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's just how I think.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so many of your paintings are great.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: The Eddie Van Halen stuff, the James Headfields, obviously the Lemmy one.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: There it is.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: There's the James Headfield.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's so cool, man.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_01: I made a shirt out of it.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_01: And you're doing prints and everything now.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got prints.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I will sell the original paintings, you know, if you want that.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, if you just want prints, I've got those.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: I've got, you know, all kinds of stuff now.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: T-shirts.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: It'd be a business.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying, man.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's rough.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it dries up during certain months, and I'm like, oh, my God, what am I going to do?
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I just picked up a commission the other day I've been working on all week,
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: and I picked up another commission today.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thankful for the work.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right on, man.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome news.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, for everybody watching, listening, the new record is fantastic.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: The minute you can buy it, you should, if you were not a contributor.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_01: And while you wait for it, go over to Monty Colvin Art, pick yourself up a print.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_01: You'll sign them if they ask you to, right?
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_01: So pick yourself up a print, pick yourself up a real piece of art.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's definitely worth it.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_01: You will definitely get people commenting on it.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_01: Imani, it's always fun, man.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining us here on Classic Metal Show, man.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, guys.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_00: Love you guys.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_00: Love the show.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's an honor.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right on, brother.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, buddy.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we're going to get back to the tunes right now.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to go with a little bit of Megadeth.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what the song is, so let me look at the list.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_01: Here it is.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's from Dystopia.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: It is Post-American World.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_01: It is Megadeth right here on your Classic Metal Show.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_03: New York's heavy metal titans are back.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_03: After 10 years, Anthrax unleashes their 12th studio album, Curse Em Perficio, September 18th.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_03: This is the sound of legends completing their journey.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_03: Curse Em Perficio, my journey is over.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_03: First single, It's For The Kids, is a buzz saw riff monster.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_03: Explosive drums, howling hooks, and pure Anthrax destruction.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_03: Scott Ian,
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_03: Charlie Benonte,
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_03: Frank Bello,
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_03: Joey Belladonna,
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_03: and Jonathan DeNice deliver the thrash masterpiece you've been waiting for.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_03: Get the two-disc vinyl set right now, available at the bottom of your screen.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_03: Anthrax, Cursum, Proficio, September 18th.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_03: This is the one you've been waiting for.