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- 0:00So, Edwin, I wanna start today with kind of a confession.
- 0:00Back in my early
- 0:05days on this product team-this must've been,
- 0:07what, seven or eight years ago?-I remember meetings where the loudest
- 0:10voice in the room basically decided everything.
- 0:10Didn't matter what the
- 0:14data said...
- 0:15it was more like, "who's the most convincing on their feet?"Which-looking
- 0:20back-feels kinda medieval, honestly.
- 0:20But I still see it.
- 0:25Like, a lot.
- 0:25Companies say they're all about data,
- 0:29but when the moment comes?
- 0:30The decisions don't feel data-driven.
- 0:30So I'm curious-how do we actually
- 0:36tell when decisions are rooted in data,
- 0:38not just gut or guesswork?
- 0:38Ah, Claire-you're naming something way more
- 0:43common than people admit.
- 0:43There's this illusion that if you've got dashboards
- 0:48or reports, you're making data-driven choices.
- 0:48But collecting info isn't
- 0:53the same as using it-and it definitely doesn't mean you're interpreting
- 0:56it well.
- 0:56Real data-driven leadership?
- 1:00It's not about having more charts.
- 1:00It's a practice.
- 1:04A habit of consistently asking:"What happened?"Then: "Why did it
- 1:04happen?"And-most
- 1:11critically-"What does this mean for what we do next?"It's a shift from
- 1:17reacting to understanding.
- 1:17When you said "interpreting the right data,"
- 1:22that word-"right"-really stood out.
- 1:22Like,
- 1:25are we talking about clean spreadsheets?
- 1:27Or is it more about, I don't know,
- 1:29technique?'Cause I've seen teams get so obsessed with fancy tools...But
- 1:34the basics are still, uh, kind of a mess.
- 1:34You're spot on.
- 1:34The foundation
- 1:39is always data integrity-if the inputs are messy,
- 1:42everything else is compromised.
- 1:42But it doesn't stop there.
- 1:42Great analysts
- 1:48go beyond clean numbers.
- 1:50They apply statistical thinking.
- 1:52They visualize trends that aren't obvious.
- 1:52Some even use predictive modeling
- 1:57to spot what's coming before it hits.
- 1:57But here's the real unlock: all that
- 2:03technique only matters if it's tied directly to business goals.
- 2:03Otherwise,
- 2:07it's just noise dressed up as insight.
- 2:07Right,
- 2:11right...
- 2:11like, you can have the flashiest AI dashboard on the planet-But if nobody
- 2:15trusts the numbers underneath it?
- 2:17It's all gonna fall apart.
- 2:17I wish someone had asked this in those old
- 2:22meetings I mentioned earlier:"How do we stop relying on gut-and actually
- 2:27shift the culture toward evidence?"Like,
- 2:30what practically changes?
- 2:30Honestly?
- 2:33It starts with leadership.
- 2:33If you want your team to take data seriously,
- 2:38you have to bring it into the room-every time.
- 2:38That means using real,
- 2:44validated information in decision-making and being transparent about
- 2:48how you got there.
- 2:48Over time, people notice.
- 2:51They start to realize-It's not ego that drives decisions here...
- 2:56it's evidence.
- 2:56But that takes consistency.
- 2:56You also have to invite questions.
- 3:03Show people how analysis leads to better outcomes.
- 3:03Then the shift happens
- 3:08naturally-data stops being a prop and starts becoming a compass.
- 3:08So it's
- 3:13like: be the example, show your receipts,
- 3:16and don't pretend you know everything when you don't.
- 3:16Honestly,
- 3:20I'd love to go back and whisper that in my younger self's ear.
- 3:20I think
- 3:24a lot of us would, Claire.
- 3:24Okay,
- 3:26let's zoom in a bit.
- 3:26How do all those dashboards and reports actually
- 3:31turn into something...
- 3:32useful?
- 3:32There's this bridge between information and action,
- 3:36right?
- 3:36And from what I've seen,
- 3:38that bridge is people.
- 3:39Specifically-analysts.
- 3:39I tell teams all the time: your data folks aren't
- 3:45just number crunchers.
- 3:45They're translators.
- 3:45They take messy,
- 3:49complicated insights-and turn them into something people can act on.
- 3:49Absolutely.
- 3:54And yet, a lot of folks still picture analysts as these quiet spreadsheet
- 3:58hermits in the corner.
- 3:58In reality,
- 4:01they're strategic connectors.
- 4:01And with today's business intelligence tools-wow-there's
- 4:07a lot you can track.
- 4:07But here's the catch: if you don't have systems in
- 4:12place to manage and integrate all that data?
- 4:12It just becomes another source
- 4:16of noise.
- 4:16Yeah-like a digital junk drawer,
- 4:19just filled with abandoned dashboards.
- 4:19So how do teams actually use the
- 4:24data, instead of just...
- 4:26hoarding it?
- 4:26That's the make-or-break question.
- 4:26It starts with data governance-basically,
- 4:33rules and discipline around what data you collect,
- 4:36how often, and from where.
- 4:36Especially now,
- 4:40when you're blending structured data-like sales or productivity numbers-with
- 4:45unstructured stuff like customer reviews or social posts.
- 4:45And then comes
- 4:50transformation.
- 4:50I worked with a manufacturing company that used predictive
- 4:55analytics across procurement, logistics,
- 4:58and production.
- 4:58By aligning all those data points-and having analysts
- 5:03embedded in team discussions-they cut costs by 20%.Not because of the
- 5:09data alone-but because it got turned into decisions.
- 5:09Wait-twenty percent?
- 5:15That's wild.
- 5:15Okay, but here's what I keep wondering: what about non-technical
- 5:20leaders?
- 5:20There are still so many managers out there who...
- 5:23aren't data scientists.
- 5:23How do they engage with analytics,
- 5:26without feeling overwhelmed?
- 5:26They don't need to be experts.
- 5:26What they do
- 5:31need is curiosity.
- 5:31You don't have to build a model from scratch-you just
- 5:36need to ask the right questions."Where's this trend coming from?""What
- 5:41does this mean for our team's goals?"And most importantly: "Does this
- 5:46story make sense?"When leaders bring analysts in early,
- 5:50they're not just asking for reports-they're co-creating strategy.
- 5:50That
- 5:56partnership is where real transformation starts.
- 5:56Yeah,
- 6:00that "translator" piece really is everything.
- 6:00Like,
- 6:03you don't need to speak fluent data-you just need to know how to ask
- 6:06for subtitles.
- 6:06Exactly.
- 6:08It's about collaboration.
- 6:10And having systems in place to give you reliable,
- 6:13timely insights-Because otherwise,
- 6:15all your great questions just hit a wall.
- 6:15Let's talk culture for a second.
- 6:15Because
- 6:21even with the best tools, I've seen teams kinda...
- 6:23revolt.
- 6:23At my last company, when these dashboards rolled out,
- 6:28people were like-"Wait, who built this?
- 6:30Is this even right?
- 6:31Am I about to get graded on something broken?"Total skepticism.
- 6:31So how
- 6:36do you get people to trust the data-and actually use it?
- 6:36Honestly,
- 6:40that kind of pushback?
- 6:41It's healthy.
- 6:41Blind trust is just as risky as no trust.
- 6:41Real buy-in starts
- 6:48with data quality-metrics need to be accurate,
- 6:51relevant, and transparently sourced.
- 6:51But the deeper layer is data literacy.
- 6:51If
- 6:57people understand how to read and challenge the numbers,
- 7:00they feel empowered instead of surveilled.
- 7:00And as we've talked about before-leaders
- 7:05who model that curiosity?
- 7:05They shift the culture.
- 7:09Slowly, but powerfully.
- 7:09It's like the data version of giving and receiving
- 7:14feedback.
- 7:14Don't just accept the numbers-ask what they mean.
- 7:14But now I'm
- 7:20wondering-how do we stop metrics from turning into this graveyard of KPIs
- 7:24that nobody looks at?
- 7:24That's where alignment comes in.
- 7:24KPIs need to track
- 7:29back to real outcomes-customer retention,
- 7:32faster onboarding, better engagement.
- 7:32And they need to evolve.
- 7:32Teams should
- 7:38regularly review and refine what they measure.
- 7:38Because when people see
- 7:42a clear link between data and business wins?
- 7:42That's when trust turns into
- 7:48habit.
- 7:48It stops being "just a report" and starts being part of how the
- 7:53team learns and grows.
- 7:53So, let me try to sum this up:Start with solid,
- 7:58trustworthy data...Help people understand what they're looking at...And
- 8:02always tie those numbers back to something that actually matters.
- 8:02Then,
- 8:06keep that feedback loop open-so the system keeps getting smarter.
- 8:06That's
- 8:11it.
- 8:11And it's worth saying again:Data doesn't replace human insight.
- 8:11It sharpens
- 8:17it.
- 8:17When people experience that-consistently-that's when culture
- 8:17really
- 8:22changes.
- 8:22Edwin, this was sooo much deeper than "use more data."We touched
- 8:28tech, culture, trust-it's all connected.
- 8:28Is there one thing you'd want
- 8:33leaders to hold onto as they take this forward?
- 8:33Just this:The edge doesn't
- 8:39come from having more information.
- 8:39It comes from blending evidence with
- 8:43thoughtful judgment.
- 8:43If you create space for both,
- 8:47you'll build teams that outperform instinct-every time.
- 8:47Couldn't have
- 8:52said it better.
- 8:52And hey, if you're curious about how science-backed tools
- 8:56like behavioral assessments fit into this whole puzzle,
- 8:59go check out OAD.
- 8:59ai.
- 8:59You can test them for free-super simple-and it's
- 9:05a great way to start linking people decisions to actual performance.
- 9:05Thanks
- 9:09for listening, and we'll see you next time on The Science of Leading.
- 9:09Take
- 9:14care, Claire.
- 9:14And to all our listeners-keep leading with insight.