Latest / Play Therapy Parenting: Real Parenting Questions Answered by a Child Therapist / S4E10 - Why Is My Youngest Child Always Acting Out? - When a Child Uses Bad Behavior and Negative Attention to Find Their Place
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- 0:02You're listening to the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:06with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:10I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:11The Kid Counselor.
- 0:12This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast where I
- 0:14answer real parenting questions about behavior,
- 0:17emotions,
- 0:17and the parent-child relationship.
- 0:19In today's episode,
- 0:20I'm answering a question from Alyssa,
- 0:22and this is about
- 0:25once you understand the why behind the behavior in your children,
- 0:30How to adjust accordingly.
- 0:33Once you understand what's going on,
- 0:35then how do you make changes from a parenting perspective.
- 0:39So Alyssa,
- 0:40I'm really grateful for this question.
- 0:42Really quickly before I dive in.
- 0:45Some of you are aware,
- 0:46some of you are not.
- 0:48I recently wrote a book called Parent Companion for Play Therapy.
- 0:51So if you are considering putting your child in play therapy and
- 0:55or your children are already working with a child-centered play therapist,
- 0:59I really encourage you to go on Amazon and
- 1:02get the Parent Companion for Play Therapy book.
- 1:04Talk to your therapist about it,
- 1:06make sure they're aware of it.
- 1:07It is a step by step guide so that you are aware of what's going on therapeutically
- 1:12as your child goes through CCPT with their therapist.
- 1:16And so,
- 1:17you know,
- 1:17bring it into your meetings with them and chat about things that you've read.
- 1:21I think it will equip you and really make a big difference in
- 1:24your knowledge of what's going on as they go through the process.
- 1:27So,
- 1:28Amazon has it,
- 1:28Parent Companion for Play Therapy.
- 1:31I wanted to make y'all aware,
- 1:32some of you I know have already bought it and read it and all of that.
- 1:34So,
- 1:35and some of your therapists have probably told you about it,
- 1:37but I wanted you to hear it from me as well.
- 1:40We recently released a Kindle version,
- 1:42so if you are an e-reader,
- 1:43You will have that available
- 1:45and we're working on an audio version.
- 1:47It's not ready yet,
- 1:48but you can get the Kindle and the printed version on Amazon.
- 1:50Just wanted to make sure you knew about that.
- 1:53OK,
- 1:53so let's read parts of this email and then we'll dive in together.
- 1:56I wanted to ask you about managing behaviors like shouting,
- 1:59name-calling to siblings,
- 2:00and throwing things.
- 2:02You refer to this as masking when feeling vulnerable,
- 2:05and it was a light bulb moment for me.
- 2:07There you go,
- 2:07Alyssa.
- 2:08I'm glad.
- 2:09My youngest is 6.
- 2:11He has two older brothers,
- 2:129 and 11.
- 2:13They fight but also play.
- 2:15The problem is trying to get my 6-year-old to join
- 2:17the homeschooling routine we already have with my older two.
- 2:21He did a half day kinder program last year,
- 2:23and this year he'll be joining me and my older two who attend a hybrid
- 2:27homeschool program.
- 2:28I teach 3 days a week.
- 2:29They attend school part-time on Tuesdays,
- 2:31Thursdays.
- 2:32The problem is he won't let me teach him.
- 2:34He sabotages the entire time we have to teach and learn.
- 2:38He throws pencils,
- 2:39intentionally spells things like his name incorrectly,
- 2:41refuses to do school,
- 2:43walks away,
- 2:43throws himself on the floor,
- 2:44you name it.
- 2:45I've tried doing school with him in a separate room
- 2:48versus at a table altogether in case he feels.
- 2:50A certain way with his brothers around,
- 2:52but the result is the same.
- 2:54He did not behave this way in the classroom last year,
- 2:56but his teacher said he would let out his breath and take longer
- 2:59than he needed on purpose.
- 3:01His anger runs our home on a daily basis,
- 3:03but it's worse around tasks like schooling,
- 3:06and he is slowly but surely causing me to
- 3:08dread what I once loved homeschooling my boys.
- 3:11Please give me any advice that you have.
- 3:13I dread starting school.
- 3:14I tense up at the mention of it,
- 3:15and nothing I say or do is getting through to him.
- 3:18OK,
- 3:19so this is a really helpful question,
- 3:21Alyssa.
- 3:21Thank you for it.
- 3:23Let's start with
- 3:25Yes,
- 3:26absolutely.
- 3:27When he's shouting,
- 3:28name-calling,
- 3:28and throwing things,
- 3:30he's masking when he feels vulnerable.
- 3:32OK,
- 3:33very clear that that is often tied together.
- 3:36The other side of this is it's a power and control grab.
- 3:40So,
- 3:41one of the things that we know is that to avoid vulnerability,
- 3:44we will also try to be angry and aggressive
- 3:47because that makes us feel powerful.
- 3:50So,
- 3:51let's talk about
- 3:5311 and 9 year old.
- 3:54If they're following birth order rules,
- 3:57which I know sometimes there are role reversals,
- 4:00but
- 4:00I'm going to make an assumption here,
- 4:02which is dangerous,
- 4:03but
- 4:03just roll with it.
- 4:05I think your 11 year old is probably
- 4:07traditional firstborn
- 4:09and is people pleasing and perfectionistic and excels
- 4:14academically and does everything that he's supposed to do
- 4:17and toes the line and doesn't make any waves and is just like the good kid.
- 4:22I suspect your nine year old is the polar opposite of your 11-year-old.
- 4:26As a middle child,
- 4:27probably a peacemaker,
- 4:28probably a very social kid,
- 4:30probably has interests outside of the home with friends
- 4:33or with activities and sports and things like that.
- 4:36OK,
- 4:36so
- 4:37if we follow first and middle child characteristics down the birth order line,
- 4:42Your six year old is now left going,
- 4:44well,
- 4:45who the heck am I?
- 4:46I can't be the academic
- 4:49perfect kid like the 11 year old.
- 4:51I can't be the social butterfly peacemaker like the nine-year-old.
- 4:55So roles have been claimed
- 4:57and now six-year-old is like,
- 4:59well,
- 5:00I don't know who I am,
- 5:01so I'm just going to try some of this different stuff on.
- 5:04So I suspect he really does not know who he is.
- 5:06I think he's struggling with self-concept,
- 5:09with identity.
- 5:11And
- 5:12being the youngest,
- 5:13he's in an inferior position
- 5:15because the 9 and 11 year old are faster,
- 5:18smarter,
- 5:18bigger,
- 5:19stronger,
- 5:20more capable,
- 5:21whatever.
- 5:21So you name it,
- 5:22being the baby
- 5:24puts him in a position where he feels less than.
- 5:27So he's overcompensating.
- 5:29He's trying to keep up with boys that he can't keep up with,
- 5:32and their roles have been solidified,
- 5:35and he's like,
- 5:36well,
- 5:36who am I supposed to be then?
- 5:38And unless he finds a very clear role,
- 5:42so he could be the musician,
- 5:44he could be the athlete,
- 5:45he could be the comedian,
- 5:47he could be the.
- 5:49Artistic one,
- 5:50fill in the blank until he figures out who he is,
- 5:54he's going to be scrambling to try to
- 5:57throw something at the wall and hope it sticks.
- 5:59And right now,
- 6:01I suspect that the only thing that has stuck is the troublemaker.
- 6:06Now,
- 6:07he is not a troublemaker.
- 6:08I'm air quoting when I say that because
- 6:11we don't label kids negatively.
- 6:14But right now,
- 6:15he doesn't really know who he is and the only thing that he's latched onto is
- 6:19I throw pencils and I yell and I won't do things that I'm supposed to do
- 6:25because he gets attention for it.
- 6:27See,
- 6:28the 11 year old probably gets attention because he's the perfect kid.
- 6:31Again,
- 6:31I'm air quoting.
- 6:33The middle child gets attention because he's
- 6:35so easygoing and he's the peacemaker and
- 6:39everyone loves him,
- 6:39so he gets attention for that.
- 6:41What does the six year old get attention for right now?
- 6:44Disrupting things.
- 6:46Causing friction and waves.
- 6:49So even negative attention is attention.
- 6:52So that's how I'm unpacking what's going on again.
- 6:55There's a lot of assumptions there because I don't know exactly what's going on.
- 6:58I'm reading an email,
- 6:59but
- 7:00that's my gut.
- 7:01So,
- 7:03he has never had to homeschool with his two older brothers before.
- 7:07Well,
- 7:07now
- 7:08he's like,
- 7:10I don't want to do this.
- 7:11Like you've got the perfect one and the,
- 7:13like everyone likes him one,
- 7:15and here I am.
- 7:16No,
- 7:16I'm not gonna do this.
- 7:18Again,
- 7:18he is feeling vulnerable,
- 7:20but it's power and control and it's lack of identity.
- 7:23So
- 7:24there are all kinds of factors to consider here,
- 7:27Alyssa.
- 7:28And
- 7:29when you say he won't let
- 7:31you teach him and he sabotages the entire time,
- 7:33it's a power and control grab.
- 7:35Why he didn't do it at school last year because
- 7:38the teacher is a totally different relationship.
- 7:41It is a dual relationship
- 7:44when you are a parent and an educator.
- 7:47Homeschooling puts you in a dual role.
- 7:51And so there are liberties that will be taken
- 7:54with
- 7:55a parent that would not be taken with a teacher,
- 7:58and that's the nature of being a homeschool family.
- 8:00We're one,
- 8:00so I completely understand that.
- 8:03And yes,
- 8:03I think it's important to do it in a separate room
- 8:06versus altogether because
- 8:09what an 11-year-old,
- 8:10and I'm going to assume again here,
- 8:1111-year-old,
- 8:12probably 5th grade,
- 8:139-year-old,
- 8:143rd grade,
- 8:156-year-old,
- 8:161st grade,
- 8:18OK,
- 8:18so
- 8:19they're on totally different
- 8:21age levels,
- 8:22developmental levels,
- 8:23learning levels,
- 8:24capacity levels,
- 8:26and
- 8:27that is going to be difficult
- 8:29to try to do that all together.
- 8:31An 11 year old is much more capable of doing things on his own
- 8:36than a 6-year-old that's going to need a
- 8:37lot more oversight and support and encouragement.
- 8:40So trying to do that all at one table,
- 8:42I think it's setting everyone up for failure.
- 8:46So I think absolutely
- 8:48there needs to be a priority of giving the 6 year old his own space.
- 8:52You give him more individualized attention.
- 8:55Etc.
- 8:55etc.
- 8:56Now,
- 8:57when you say his anger runs our home.
- 9:02He
- 9:03is trying to
- 9:04get his needs met.
- 9:05He's trying to get attention,
- 9:07and he's trying to have power and control.
- 9:10So he's going to need a lot of empowerment choices.
- 9:13He's going to need a lot of reflection of feeling,
- 9:16and he's going to need a lot of boundaries.
- 9:19But it's also a matter of
- 9:21we become students of our children.
- 9:24We learn
- 9:26what our children need.
- 9:27Every kid is different.
- 9:29So what worked with your 11 and or 9 year
- 9:31old is probably not going to work with your 6-year-old,
- 9:34and it is our job as parents to become students of our children.
- 9:37What are their personalities?
- 9:39What are their likes and dislikes?
- 9:40What are their strengths?
- 9:42What are their areas of growth?
- 9:44What are things that they absolutely hate?
- 9:45What are things that they absolutely love?
- 9:48And we work with that knowledge.
- 9:51So maybe he's a kinesthetic learner,
- 9:53maybe he is not a visual learner.
- 9:55So sitting down and reading stuff
- 9:57is
- 9:58awful to him.
- 9:59Your 11 year old probably loves to sit down and read stuff.
- 10:03Your 6-year-old probably wants to get outside and dig in
- 10:05the dirt and find a worm for a science lesson
- 10:08rather than look at a paper of a worm and color it in.
- 10:11We're always homeschooling allows us to be creative.
- 10:15So,
- 10:16hey,
- 10:16you know what?
- 10:17We're going to do science outside today.
- 10:19We're going to go on a nature walk and we're going
- 10:21to collect specimens and we're going to talk about them.
- 10:23We're going to go on a field trip to the
- 10:27warship
- 10:28for our history lesson today.
- 10:30You may have to be very out of the box
- 10:33with your
- 10:346 year old because he might not follow the standard mold
- 10:38that your 11 and 9-year-olds did
- 10:41or do.
- 10:42We become students of our children and when a child is very clearly saying,
- 10:47I'm not
- 10:48thriving here,
- 10:50we either need to help the child learn to operate within boundaries,
- 10:55but more likely we need to make our own adjustments
- 10:58and figure out what is going to work from our end because we're
- 11:02trying to set us up for success as well as our kids.
- 11:06So,
- 11:06again,
- 11:07empowerment choices.
- 11:09Reflect feelings.
- 11:11Help him to operate within very clear limits,
- 11:14but we also can't expect him to be exactly like an 11 and a 9 year old because he can't.
- 11:20Developmentally,
- 11:20he's not there.
- 11:22Think about a kindergarten classroom versus a 5th grade classroom
- 11:26at a school.
- 11:28What goes on in a kindergarten classroom is 180 degrees
- 11:32opposite of what goes on in a 5th grade classroom.
- 11:35And as a homeschool family,
- 11:37you're trying to have a 5th grade and a kindergartner in the same table.
- 11:42It's not going to be effective for anybody.
- 11:45So very unique situation requires very unique solution.
- 11:50And it's about getting creative,
- 11:51I think,
- 11:51Alyssa.
- 11:53So,
- 11:53thank you so much for the question.
- 11:55I hope that that was helpful for all of you homeschooling families out there.
- 11:58Keep it up.
- 11:59It's one of the greatest things that we've ever done and
- 12:01it's hard work,
- 12:02but it's worth it.
- 12:03So,
- 12:04don't be discouraged.
- 12:05Continue to solve problems and come up with creative ways to educate your families.
- 12:09And for those of you that
- 12:11have 3 children,
- 12:139,
- 12:1311,
- 12:13and 6.
- 12:15These are the dynamics that we come to recognize in siblings
- 12:20and in the birth order roles.
- 12:21And so I hope that this was helpful and that it encourages you.
- 12:24I love y'all.
- 12:24Keep loving on your kids.
- 12:26Reach out if you'd like to.
- 12:27I'd love to hear from you,
- 12:28brenna@thekidcounselor.com.
- 12:29We'll talk again soon.
- 12:30Bye.
- 12:32Thank you for listening to
- 12:33the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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