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Gardening for Abundance with Brian Brigantti [3.29.25] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 2: Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, Tiger Palafox. We are here, ready
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  Speaker 2: to go. John is here, ready to go? John, Hi
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  Speaker 2: oh oh. John barely made it, but he's here because
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  Speaker 2: you know why, you have tenacity and you care.
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  Speaker 3: Probably true, that's definitely why.
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  Speaker 4: It's definitely what it's not that his his car just
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  Speaker 4: wakes him out of better in every second.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't sleep well this week.
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  Speaker 3: No, except for today. Isn't that case, I got up
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  Speaker 3: an hour and a half late.
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  Speaker 2: The days that I can sleep in, I wake up,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bright eyed, and I want to sleep, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Can't push detail too, I noticed.
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  Speaker 2: So bushy tailed. Yeah. And the days that I have
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  Speaker 2: to get up, I'm tired. What is that? What's that?
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  Speaker 1: All?
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  Speaker 2: What times you get up during the week?
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  Speaker 4: Usually between five thirty and six?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm I'm four thirty to five depending and John's
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  Speaker 2: up at two am at least this last week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what I mean. It's it's one
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  Speaker 4: of those things when you get in that natural cycle
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  Speaker 4: of waking up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a cycle.
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  Speaker 4: But as long as, like you say, you wake up
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  Speaker 4: and you're rested, it's good to go. But when you
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  Speaker 4: wake up and you just feel you could sleep longer,
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  Speaker 4: it's frushing.
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  Speaker 2: That's the frustration. But you have to get up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, we are here. We got up and we're
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  Speaker 2: here and looking at the Facebook live people are up
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  Speaker 2: and ready to go, and I'm want to welcome those
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  Speaker 2: on bistalk radio than you.
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  Speaker 4: You know, and then back to this sleep thing real quick.
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  Speaker 4: Is you know the whole daylight savings thing, you know
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  Speaker 4: they talk about how it's taking a mental toll on people,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and should we do away with daylight's eight?
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  Speaker 3: That's what hit me today.
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  Speaker 4: It's I really do think it's a true thing, because
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  Speaker 4: when it's dark and you're trying to wake up, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it is not as fun as when the sun is
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  Speaker 4: out and it's time to wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Although I've been getting up early for so long. On
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  Speaker 2: the rare occasion when I get up and I look
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  Speaker 2: at side and it's light.
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  Speaker 4: Out, you're you're you you you don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, I slept in. It's noon and.
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  Speaker 2: It's six fifteen. I slept in, you know. Anyway, that's okay,
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  Speaker 2: John made it. We're here, ready to go. We do
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  Speaker 2: have a guest today, it would briefly petch upon that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So Brian Briganti is an author Gardening with Abundance,
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna be talking about your your vegetable gardens
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  Speaker 4: that you're probably planting right now or thinking about planting animals,
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  Speaker 4: and not only just the vegetable garden, but also the
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I kind of remember that. I was going to say,
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  Speaker 2: last year, we did a survey, and what's what's the
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  Speaker 4: Yes, muster, muster is on ships, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, muster, So we we know we've got that going
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  Speaker 4: Uh uh.
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  Speaker 3: I always thought that it was passing mustard, passes mustard
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  Speaker 3: past my pa.
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  Speaker 2: Is that like when when I was a kid, I
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  Speaker 2: to that, not skeleton, right, what do you mean it's
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  Speaker 3: No one corrected me until I was I'd like to.
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  Speaker 2: Look at Tiger to see his brain working.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who read skeleton is not.
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  Speaker 2: A comedian forties, fifties, radio, sixties TV.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to clear my throat, but I don't want
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  Speaker 4: Hey, so John, Yeah, you you've actually had some uh
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  Speaker 4: very misty days right in the mornings you wake up
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  Speaker 4: in his wet outside.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I came to San Diego Wednesday. You know
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  Speaker 3: it's raining down here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we had rain.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I got any.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and for those of you listening in other
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  Speaker 4: parts of the world, the world rains a big deal. Here, Well,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't rain. It was like a very thick cloud
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  Speaker 4: that produced droplets of water as you walked through it.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of a thing, right, because I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Why I couldn't drive without my yeah shield wipers.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, you know other people have rain because
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  Speaker 4: it actually falls from the sky and lands on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Is that we drive through clouds and consider it rain?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's it's yeah, it's rains here is usually front
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  Speaker 2: page news.
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  Speaker 4: But but I like that the soil is staining. Damn.
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  Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing is that the plants are loving it,
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  Speaker 4: because then when it is sunny in the afternoon, things
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  Speaker 4: just look really just sharp.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I brought an outside palm into the house.
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  Speaker 3: Left.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted something live in there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I brought it in, looked at it, and it had
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom, you know, all these old husks. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of dirty. I cut everything back so I've got
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  Speaker 2: the mainstocks HB one oh one, malorganite, and then so
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  Speaker 2: I watered it. So of course the dirty water goes down.
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  Speaker 3: The lark doesn't smell your house hold one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this isn't as bad as bias al so anyway,
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  Speaker 2: but malorganite, got the HB one on one, gave it
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  Speaker 2: some attention, put some decorative rocks in it. Last night
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  Speaker 2: we're watching TV saying it is about the couch next
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  Speaker 2: to what the palm is because the smell and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just smelling ancients. Come over here. I go, oh that's
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  Speaker 2: the pall. I'm very matter of fact. The poll, Well,
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  Speaker 2: what what's going on? I go, A little bit of fertilizer.
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  Speaker 2: The water is a bit dirty now, HB one on one,
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  Speaker 2: it'll go away. Oh sure, that's what it is. That's
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  Speaker 2: what it is. That's what it is. We got to
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  Speaker 2: give it time to settle.
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  Speaker 4: So it's Bryan wasn't trying to cover up something else.
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  Speaker 4: Can't blame the cat for that one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that the cats weren't attracted.
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  Speaker 2: Oh theough one, our one senior cat who's basically every
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  Speaker 2: day we didn't know if it's the last day of
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  Speaker 2: his life. Every day is he's hanging in there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's like his he's obsessed. He wants to go outside
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  Speaker 2: and he wants to eat grass, anything, leaves. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: the other night Dana had to put pillows in a
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  Speaker 2: blanket around the bottom of the home because he was Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and that's one reason why I cut everything back, as
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  Speaker 2: well as aesthetically into the health of the tree. But
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  Speaker 2: that's why we don't have live plants. But I wanted
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  Speaker 2: at least one.
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  Speaker 4: You know how they have those I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: they call it, scratch hat hat scratch poles. We have
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  Speaker 4: a huge one, yeah, where they have like the little
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  Speaker 4: rooms and stuff. It'd be really cool if somebody got
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  Speaker 4: like a nice size Fiddley fig or some kind of
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  Speaker 4: fike us, right. Can you imagine if they were able
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  Speaker 4: to put those in an actual tree rather than having
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  Speaker 4: it be like this standalone or.
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  Speaker 2: Just yeah it's a scratching post, but a tree.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just seeing like a real life, real
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  Speaker 4: live one doesn't mean, you know, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously you can make one out of a fake tree
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, but i'd be really neat to have. I
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  Speaker 4: don't have any cats, but if I had a cat,
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  Speaker 4: I think I would definitely get like a good size
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  Speaker 4: indoor tree and then make it where my cat can
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  Speaker 4: kind of go into it and then you look up
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  Speaker 4: there and it's if your cat's black, it's panther, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, kind of setting up a little scene, little little
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  Speaker 2: jungle scene.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, be awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Our buddy Kevin and card Oline says, someday we might
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  Speaker 3: see the top ten greatest quotes from the newsletter. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's that that's supposed to Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, see last week we waited. You know what. We
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  Speaker 2: used to do it twice. We'd do it like at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the show and then the second hour.
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  Speaker 2: Last week we didn't do it until the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the show, which was good because some people tune in late.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it for the first time this morning and
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  Speaker 2: then in about a minute break or did we just
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  Speaker 2: do it on different days? We because we'd open up
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  Speaker 2: the second hour. We're back on the radio. We had
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  Speaker 2: two hours.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember that at all.
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  Speaker 2: But you remember what you had for breakfast this morning?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, nothing, touth Base, nothing is something toothpaste.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, we got about a minute quote of the week, John.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing is something that's a quote that I'll use someday.
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  Speaker 2: Tiger Pelafox twenty twenty five, go ahead the coote.
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  Speaker 3: Brian is never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,
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  Speaker 3: committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only
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  Speaker 3: thing that ever has. That was from Margaret Meade, a
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  Speaker 3: social anthropologist.
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  Speaker 2: Right yep, oh Margo. All right, break time. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get ahold of our guests. So when the camera's on,
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  Speaker 2: you'll probably see me on the phone. John and Tiger
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  Speaker 2: are going to talk amongst themselves. Those on bistalk RADI
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  Speaker 2: yet welcome. This is garden America Facebook Live. Do stay
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  Speaker 2: with us. I'm Brian Main, John Macnasco, Tiger Pellofox. Happy weekend,
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  Speaker 2: Guarden America. Continues after these messages in our phone call
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  Speaker 2: to our guests bist Talk Radio Facebook.
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  Speaker 5: Look, welcome back to the gardener America Radio show with Brian,
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, just like that, we are back, and I say,
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  Speaker 2: just like that A bit quicker break on Facebook live
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  Speaker 2: those on BIS Talk Radio. A big thank you and
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  Speaker 2: to thank you to fertilom, our major sponsor. We're going
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  Speaker 2: So that said Tiger John, We're going to go to
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  Speaker 2: our guest right now. Brian is standing by Tiger as
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  Speaker 2: we kick things off on this Saturday morning. If you're
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  Speaker 2: listening to us live, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: This morning we have author and gardner Brian Briganti from Tennessee,
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  Speaker 4: but from New York to Tennessee with his partner where
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  Speaker 4: they were able to set roots and start their own
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  Speaker 4: little homestead out there. Brian, thank you for joining us
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  Speaker 4: this morning.
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  Speaker 6: Hi, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So so, Brian, You've got a fun path as
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  Speaker 4: far as you know, coming from New York to Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, it didn't you didn't start
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  Speaker 4: in New York. You know, growing up in Chicago, you
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  Speaker 4: kind of had this draw to the earth, to nature,
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  Speaker 4: to gardening, you know, but then you know, going through
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  Speaker 4: city life for so long, what was one of the
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  Speaker 4: biggest change or what was one of the biggest surprises
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  Speaker 4: going from New York to Tennessee that you you when
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  Speaker 4: you when you got to where you're gonna live there,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, wow, I'm not in New York anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the first thing I noticed when I first said
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  Speaker 6: but on this property was just how quiet it was
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  Speaker 6: and how many birds there were. Like I remember hearing
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  Speaker 6: so many different kinds of birds, just like giving me
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  Speaker 6: a symphony, almost like they were welcoming me here. Definitely
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  Speaker 6: unlike the car horns or the trains on the tracks
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  Speaker 6: or the loud subways. It was just such a different
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  Speaker 6: and peace that I never really experienced living in a city.
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  Speaker 6: And funny enough, it was kind of hard to adjust
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  Speaker 6: to the quiet, you know, growing up in Chicago, I
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  Speaker 6: also lived in San Francisco. Living in New York City,
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  Speaker 6: I was so conditioned just like be on the go
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  Speaker 6: all the time that suddenly with all this this this quiet,
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  Speaker 6: all this solitude, all this time that I suddenly had,
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  Speaker 6: it was kind of hard to adjust to just being
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  Speaker 6: able to exist and be without having to be doing
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  Speaker 6: something all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: And I was always fighting with myself and like feeling
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  Speaker 6: guilty for like not doing something, but realizing that that
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  Speaker 6: was actually that that should be our default as humans
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  Speaker 6: to like just allow ourselves to be and to exist
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  Speaker 6: without this like this overwhelming pressure to constantly be doing
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  Speaker 6: something to feel fulfilled, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know it's kind of threw me for
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  Speaker 4: a loop. Yeah, you know, I mean, I mean I
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  Speaker 4: think that that's a big thing that people don't realize,
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  Speaker 4: is that how much it will affect you because you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when coming from a city and
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  Speaker 4: whether it's a big city or medium sized city, there
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  Speaker 4: is that that noise, you know, that distant siren, distant
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  Speaker 4: car horn that you just always hear, right, and then
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  Speaker 4: you know, going into a rural area where you don't
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  Speaker 4: have that, it takes a minute to get a customer.
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  Speaker 2: So quiet it's loud. Well it's a loud quite Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I like friends or people visit, they're like actually kind
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  Speaker 6: of freaked out by how quiet it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're waiting for something to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I get scared, like I do.
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  Speaker 6: You can hear a pin drop.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So so that is funny that you mentioned it,
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  Speaker 4: because I don't think I don't think people kind of
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  Speaker 4: always remember that, but that is definitely something I think
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  Speaker 4: that people ever that come from a city to a
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  Speaker 4: rural area, you know that that is something that is
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  Speaker 4: very true. Well, well you're adjusted now, right, so you
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  Speaker 4: know you're now.
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  Speaker 6: Every time I leave or like I visit a city
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  Speaker 6: where I'm just traveling, I craved the quiet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it so much. It's probably deafening, you know, to
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  Speaker 4: you there now, it's like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, subways feel really unnatural.
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  Speaker 4: Now, oh that's funny. Well, well, you know gardening, you
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  Speaker 4: know your passion, you know, growing food primarily your author
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  Speaker 4: of Growing Growing with Abundance, and you know what inspired
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  Speaker 4: you to write that book.
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  Speaker 6: Well, just for a little bit of context, I didn't
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  Speaker 6: grow up gardening. I always had like a deep love
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  Speaker 6: for the natural world, but you know, growing up in
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  Speaker 6: a city, I never really had a means of like
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  Speaker 6: really immersing myself in it. So when I moved to
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  Speaker 6: the countryside back in twenty nineteen, I suddenly had all
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  Speaker 6: this time and space. And when the pandemic hit, there
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  Speaker 6: was this huge uncertainty of like what our food system
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  Speaker 6: was going to look like. So I started gardening and
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  Speaker 6: growing food for the first time ever in my life
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  Speaker 6: and fell so deeply in love with it, and I
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  Speaker 6: started sharing it on social media and it just like
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  Speaker 6: blew up and took off. And I saw this like
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  Speaker 6: deep need and desire from people to learn how to
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  Speaker 6: grow food, to connect with the natural world, to learn
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: about the food system. So with this sudden platform that
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: I had, I really took it upon myself to teach people,
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: you know, how to grow and how to be excited
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: and inspired to connect with the natural world and really
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: share it in a way that was like friendly and
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: warm and digestible and not so scary and overwhelming learning
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: how to guard and there's so much to take in.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: So funny enough, in the midst of all that happening,
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: Age three Publishing actually reached out and asked me if
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: I wanted to write a book, and I thought, why not.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: You know, when you get our platform is pretty big now,
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: like we have over three million followers collectively on our platform.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: Something I picked up on pretty quickly is people are
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: going to ask a lot of the same questions just
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: because there's so much engagement. It's like hard for everyone
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: and you know, keep up with what's being talked about.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: But it actually worked in my favor because I got
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: to see like what people really needed, what people really
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: wanted to learn, or what the most common questions were.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: So I used a lot of that to inform the
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: information that went into this book. And yes, now anytime
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: anyone asked me for hey, do you have any tips
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: for a beginner, or like what's the best way to
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: start as a gardener? Like, I just directed them to
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: my book because it's literally everything that I think of
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: beginner needs to learn how to grow.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: That that's great description and a great way to put it,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: because you know, being in this industry, you know, gardening podcast,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: radio shows, you know you books and all this other
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: stuff you do learn them that you know, people do
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: ask the same question over, oh what tomatoes should I plan?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: How do I pune a rose? You know all these
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: things and as people doing this kind of forget that
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: this is their first time, they're excited about it. They
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: want to do the best possible, you know. Job, I
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: was at a customer's house yesterday, Brian and I planted
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: a citrus tree for And the reason why I the
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: reason why he paid me to come out and plant
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: the citrus tree for him, is because he did it
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: already and he failed, and so he was like I want,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I want, you know, so so afterwards, I think it
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: took me thirty five minutes to plant it. I was
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: there for an hour and a half.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: What did he do wrong?
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Just off the top, Yeah, you know what went wrong
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: with it?
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: So for him going, I think what it was was,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: you know, the watering and and this kind of comes
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: up to a lot of things. But you know, the
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: citrus treet is like those deep infrequent waterings, and he
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: just had like a drip system running five minutes, three
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: times a week, and so I just think getting enough
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: water eventually. Yeah, hey, hey, Brian, we're gonna have to
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: pause for a quick break. When we get back, we'll
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: continue chatting with Brian Briganti about the edible gardens that
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: we're gonna be planting here pretty soon. And you know
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: his other platforms that he uses to teach me and.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Those on Facebook Live questions comments, if you get any
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: questions at all, let us know John is monitoring very
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: closely Facebook Live this morning, so we'll keep that up.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Those on BIS Talk Radio. Going to take a break,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: big thank at a Fertilan Garden America. We continue it to
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the weekend. I'm Brian Maine, Brian's our guest taker Pela Fox,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: John Begnasco, as we say, used to say and still
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: say back after these messages, but whose messages find out
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: on BIS Talk Radios.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio show with Brian,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: All Right, we are back. Hope you enjoyed that break,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: This breaks for you. All Right, Garden America we continue
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and Yes, edible gardens Gardening Brian's our guest this morning,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and Tiger We're going to continue because a lot of
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: interest this morning, talk about his book, how we got started,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and we'll go from there. Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I just want to let our listeners know and people
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: that are listening to this via radio right now, that
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I did post a link to Brian's book, Gardening for
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Abundance on our Facebook. It's on our Facebook contents right now.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Is to be able to purchase his book or be
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: able to kind of look into the book. You know, Brian,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: you know one of the things that I talked to
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: you about earlier this week that I really want to
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: kind of dive into because I love this content and
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever talked about it. On this
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: program before. But you have this sense of community and
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: that you want to create, tell us a little bit
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: about kind of your vision that you would like to
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: You know, there's gardening for abundance, it's gardening for community.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: What's your vision there?
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely well. I think one of the greatest joys
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: of growing so much abundance is being able to share
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: it with your community, your friends, your loved ones. Right,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: And something I learned very early on in gardening is
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: a garden thrives in community. The more that you introduce
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: into a space, the more biodiverse a garden is, the
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: more likely it is the thrive that really built takes
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: on a life of its own, and you build an
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: ecosystem where where everything works together you to thrive and
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: grow abundance.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: So I feel like.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: That's a really great reflection of like us as humans
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: and like how we should electively come together to cultivate
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: that abundance. So I feel like my mindset this year
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: in particular, versus the last few years that were very
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: experimental as I was learning how to grow and garden.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: This year, I'm very focused on growing more abundance than ever,
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: but not necessarily just for myself. But with community and
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: for my community. One of the most common questions I
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: get on social media were not necessarily a question, but
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: a common is people don't have access to space, or
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: they're growing on their balcony, or all they have is
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: their apartment. So something I really want to urge people
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: to do is like come together as community this year
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: and actively seek out spaces where they can come together
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: to grow abundance.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: You know, I have a lot of followers that a
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: lot of my audiences are based in more urban settings,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: and I can speak from my experience living in Brooklyn,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: New York. I knew so many people who had a
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: little maybe like ten by sixteen backyards and they weren't
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: doing anything with And you know, gardening is such an
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: overwhelming thing. There's so much to learn, so much to
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: take on, especially as an individual.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But I feel like.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: Rallying up some friends, some family, some community to tackle
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: the task of a garden will alleviate a lot of
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: the stresses that come with it, make it a lot
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: more enjoyable, and you get to share and reap the
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: benefits of all that abundance with with the people you
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: care about. Yeah, and now especially with like how overwhelming.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: The world is feeling we need community now more than ever,
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: and what better place to cultivate it than a garden.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: And you know, it's so funny because, like you say,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: there's the people that have meaning, you know, they have
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the space, but maybe they just don't have the drive
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: or the knowledge, like you're say, like to actually do
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: it themselves. But then there's also the have not where
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: there are the people that want to garden, that that
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: love the idea of it that I've had experienced it,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: but now they move to an area where they can't
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: they don't have the space. And so it's almost like
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: connecting those two, you know, two types of people, is
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: what you know you're trying to do there now now
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I'm throwing it out there, Brian, into the world right now,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, who whoo? Who would have thought fifteen years
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: ago that we would hop into a stranger's car and
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: they would we would pay for them, pay them to
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: take place someplace. Who would have thought ten years ago
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: that that uh, that that we would be going into
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: other people's backyards and using their swimming pools or using
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: their homes to stay while we vacation somewhere else. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: think I think we gotta. I think we gotta. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: think we've got an Airbnb for gardens right now where
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: you can I think, yeah, you know, we have the
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: people that have the yard and say hey, I just
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: can't do it or I don't know it. I'm inviting
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: people to come into my yard and we're gonna plant,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna garden, and we're gonna cultivate something.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: And the next person and does their own thing.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, you know, it just is a thing. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: like you know, I mean, you know it is true though,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: because who would have thought, sure fifteen twenty years ago
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: that we would be hopping in some stranger's car and say, hey,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: what do you take me to the airport?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Hey hey, Brian, let me ask you this, going back
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to Okay, here comes a bad cliche, going back to
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: your roots here. So you're you're getting into gardening, so
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: on and so forth. Do you remember the first thing
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that you grew? The very first thing that you.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: Grew, and that was that I will never forget it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: It was kale, kale, I planted kale. But more specifically,
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: what I remember, like what screams out at me every
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: time I'm in the garden It's like the moment that
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: really solidified, like, oh, this is what I meant to
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: be doing. Was literally breaking ground for the first time
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: when I moved here and feeling the dirt in.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: My hand there you go.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and like as it was crumbling in my hands.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I caught a whiff of it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: I smelled the dirt, I smelled the earth, and I literally,
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: I kid you not. I got a flashback when I
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: was in Chicago.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I was that kid.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: I was flipping rocks over, looking for bugs underneath, playing
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: in what little dirt I had access to, And it
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: made me so emotional in that moment. It literally felt
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: like a homecoming. Yeah, and after you know, from a
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: child and then having all this this life experience in
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: the city and life kind of carrying me and taking
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: me on this wild ride. Being able to experience and
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: feel that in that moment, at that stage in my life,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: it was exactly what I needed at the time. Didn't
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: even know that's what I needed. And that's really kind
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: of what's solidified it this this is where I'm meant
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: to be. This is where I'm supposed to be, in
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: the middle of nowhere, Tennessee, of all places, but like
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: What are you closest to? What city or ten are
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: you closest to that would be a major, major town.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're about an hour and a half southeast of Nashville.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yep, nice.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, close enough to have some fun, but also far enough.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Away from a distance. Yeah, she's there whenever we need her.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: But I can have my pie and quiet here.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to get over planning kale as the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: first I know, I fell in love with kale.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: But you you actually enjoyed eating it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: You did it on phone?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: My god, Yeah, Johnny, you did it on purpose.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: I will mention like it wasn't like a perfect experience,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: like I planted my kale and actually killed it.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the club.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: But you know, I didn't let that stop me from
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: like planting more kale, how to properly grow kale and
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: having that experience when you fail, when you messed up,
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: and then you finally get that gratification of like doing
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: it right. It is so fill Yeah, you know what
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: it is. It's still something, y'all. Don't give up.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: You know what Brian is saying. Here's the analogy if
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: somebody gives you money and you spend it, it's one thing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But when you had to earn the money and spend it,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that's different because you put your on sweat and tears
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and do it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Yea exactly, and it always tastes better.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: And the garden is like the best place to feel that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, with this idea of community and
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: specifically with edibles, is you know, you can share that.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: And and I think that is one thing that all
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: gardeners want to do, is is it is I've.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Never shared your success.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never met a gardener that was like, it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: all for me. I'm just gonna talk at all to myself.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Like you know, they they are always wanting to bring
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: it in share, you know, they want to bring in
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: what they made with it, you know, whether it's like
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: a lemon pie or you know, a meal or a
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: dish or a salad, and they say, oh, it's from
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: my garden.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But there's a difference between doing I got.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: That's such a flex like, oh no, there's.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: A difference between doing that tiger and between and uh
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: putting the bag of zucchini on the r stuff running already, Yeah, really, you.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Know, and then and then I mean even think about
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: how many public gardens we have today because they were
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: private gardens of someone in the past. You know. I
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: mean when you know that, you know there's so many
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: in your and you're like the roof bankrupt that was
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: you know, the the Huntington that was their house lotus,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: you know, yeah, you know, I mean.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: So Pennsylvania and.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Was a private garden. They just want to share what
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: they did. I mean, there's there's a place over here, Brian,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: up near Morgan Hill. I think it's in Gilroy and
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: they call it Gilroy Gardens. They didn't call it Gilroy
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Guardens for a while. But this guy was so into
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: creating trees that were like in like basket basket shapes
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: or it was.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: A chair furniture shape, Yeah, furniture shape. Cool.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Like so you're sitting in a bush that's him share,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: you know, like yeah, but it's so amazing. But I
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: mean that took him generations to do. You know, it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: not something that happens overnight. Hey, we got to take
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: another break. When we get back, we'll continue chatting with
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Brian about gardening.
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  Speaker 2: with Brian, Hey, Tiger, did we find out how big
• 31:56
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• 31:58
  Speaker 4: No, not yet yeah out in Tennessee and what's going on?
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, funny enough as first started to like learn how
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: to garden now one of the most common things I
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: saw online start small base. Oh yeah, and we did not.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: She went full fourth. We dived head first into everything
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: we possibly could. We built, like I believe we have
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: sixteen beds in the space we're working and it's about
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: five thousand square feet. Wow that I'm growing the vegetable garden.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: At least.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: My partner is also an avid gardener, but he focuses
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: more on like landscaping and ornamental gardens. He also has
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: a carnivorous plant nursery. There's just a lot. There's a
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: lot happening here and I really love that you mentioned
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: how you know a lot of these like big botanical
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: gardens that we have now started as like a private
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: garden and expand it to something public. That is very
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: much what we have in mind and like a big
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: part of the vision.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Here at Redley.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: We would love, love, love to create a botanical garden
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: here really in the heart of Tennessee. We were mack
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: dab in central Tennessee and there's just so much beauty
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: that can be cultivated here that we would love to stare.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, John, you gut some questions. We want to get
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: tough here. A couple.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Well Rick in star Idaho, Okay, had a question about
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: what Brian was, how he was preparing the beds before
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: he planted, and what type of products he's using. Is
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: he using fertilizers, using mult composts.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And then and then my question is to piggyback that
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: question Brian would be what kind of natural soil do
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: we find in Tennessee, Nashville, et cetera.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, okay, So I'll start with the natural soil here.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: We have really dense red clay, something I never really
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: experienced or or saw before moving here. But honestly, I
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: think it's just I think it's a really wonderful soil.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I feel like it gets a bad rep but things
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: actually can grow really well in it. But in order
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: for vegetables, like there is some amendment that needs to
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: happen to like make sure they really drive. We have
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: a lot of raised bed here in the vegetable garden,
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: and our soil mixes comprise. It was a mix we
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: got from a local horticulture center called more Ends, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: its heats a little bit of wood.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Tips for light.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: But then we take it a step further and we
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: actually make our own composts here, so we've loved to
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: throw in composts, worm castings as well, worm castings as
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: like our black goal. We love it so much. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: this year in particular, we've actually gotten into the practice
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: of throwing from sand in there, because something I've learned
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: over the years is how quickly you know, these materials
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: in a garden that can break down. And sand is
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: a really nice addition, especially for raised beds, because it
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: add some more of that like structure, that mass, and
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: it does not break down. It takes them much much,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: much longer person to have to break down, but holds
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: a lot more of that structural integrity, while also adding
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: the benefit of drainage in the bed, which can be
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: very beneficial in the race bed. So yeah, yeah, right,
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: that's a lot going on in that soil.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: And and you know, Brian, you're not just an author,
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: you know, like we were, there's a lot of media
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: that you try to share this concept with, right, so
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: get you give give our a listeners. So what are
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: some platforms that you tend to share this information across.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, our main platform is TikTok, but this year we've
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: definitely broken into YouTube. We also share on a Instagram.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: I say those through everyally like the main platforms that
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: that we share on, but I personally have a deep
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: love and appreciation for TikTok because that's kind of where,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: you know, our store was able to be shared on
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: on a platform much larger than anything we could have
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: ever imagined. So yeah, TikTok is kind of where the
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: heart of our our content creation.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Is and so you know there you'd share your kind
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: of how to videos, and.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I share.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: I share so many tips and tricks on how to grow.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: I love sharing the actual harvest that happened in the garden,
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: what we cook with the harvest. Funny enough, I mean,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: I'm sure if you go check out our content, something
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: you're going to notice very early on, very quickly is
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: I love to say the word abundance if you haven't noticed,
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: come from the title of my books. But funny enough,
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: everything that's kind of happened and transpired has really been
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: because of our community. You know, it's kind of all
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: manifested on its own because of what I see my
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: community wants, and abundance was very much a part of it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: In the beginning, when all of this kind of started happening.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: I shared a harvest very early on, and at the
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: end of the harvest, at the end of the video,
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: I was like, look at this beautiful basket, Look at
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: all that abundance. A few days later, I shared another
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: harvest video and I didn't say abundance at the end
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: of that video, and people were so proud. We were
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: so waiting for that abundance at the end of the video.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: So that's kind of when I knew like, oh, there's
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: like there's something much bigger than just gardening happening here.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: There's like a yeah, a vibe happening, honestly. So now
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: abundance has really become kind of like the ethos of
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: what we do here and how we create content.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Red Leaf Ranch is your guys' thing. I'm going to
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: share the link to that website too, because they, I mean,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: it's a great spot to get kind of a lot
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: more information about who you are and what you're doing. Right.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, absolutely, we have all the links there, We
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: have the book links there. I also do a little
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: scattered throughout, but I do do some blog posts. I
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: share garden the garden plan of the year so people
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: can see what we're growing, how we're growing it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: That's a really cool stuff on the website.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Beautiful.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm sharing that right now, Brian. Lots of
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: good information, so so fun to just chat. And you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I love your your idea of creating a community, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: within your own backyard for people and inviting people over
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: because you know, we we worked together really well, and
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: so you know, thank you very much for joining us
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: this weekend, and and I hope you have a great
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: rest of the weekend and do some gardeners. Thank you
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: so much.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's early spring here in Tennessee.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna be outside in gardening. I'm so excited.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I'm ready.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: All right, you take care, have a good weekend.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian, to thank you all. Good one garden
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: with abundance.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna He didn't mention this directly. I'm gonna guess
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: in terms of his soil, he said it was ray
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: red red soil clay like red Georgia clay, the red
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: clay soil. He's got clay soil because Georgia Cannesee, same
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: basic region around that area, so bright red Georgia clay.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: There was a song John knows this song. I remember
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to this day.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: That's one of the worst soils.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah really, oh yeah, you have to feed it continue.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: You have to put new trains in it all the time, right,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: and you have to watch the water.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's worse than ours probably, Yeah. Yeah, really, we're.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Gonna take it because the trains really well and you
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: can material all.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna take a break and news coming up
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: on FIS Talk Radio, Facebook Live. We're gonna get to
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: your questions. We're back even quicker. This is Garden America.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Do you stay with us? We're back. We're just chit chatting.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: In case you said that last little bit here. Anyway,
• 39:54
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• 39:57
  Speaker 2: If you're joining us now, If you join us later on,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: we're not live. We're pre recorded. So don't you love that,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: John Mick, John's heads been go ahead and take I'm sorry.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I think we just finished off the last spot with
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: some some fighting words for people, because to clean we
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: have the best soil now, John, No, No, I know
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: he needs a clip, right, and I don't think he
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: really thinks out of everyone, we have the best. That's
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: what we do. Here, But I'm sure, I'm sure there's
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: places that you know the people like, no, we have
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: the best soil. No, my soil is better than.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Let's let's let's where the best Yes, where is?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: What is the optimal soil?
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: No matter where you are at valley?
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Where the Wilamotte Valley in Oregon, Oregon? You know back
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: east you have tops right yeap that you can dig down,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: you know, six inches the foot tops. We don't have
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: tops California, but in the Willamitte Valley their top soil
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: is thirty feet deep.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: So sh you just use a shovel. Yeah, no, no,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: no digging bar.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: You ever run out of good soil because you could
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: shovel that ten feet away, another fifteen feet away.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: And then also Alaska with its remember Alaska humus right?
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Didn't you go up to Alaska one time? Years ago?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: You went to a show, didn't you know?
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I gave a talk talk that's right at the University
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: of Alaska in Fairbanks. And Jane, you are nice.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: How about that? That's before Airbnb's that's before Facebook, social media.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: So you were isolated. Tell us the polar bear story
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: that I love that story.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: There were no polar bears.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Oh that you knew on the trip.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Well, actually you couldn't see them because it was white,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: white everywhere you look.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: You know that polar bears aren't really white. That's just
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a reflection.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Seriously, Yeah, they're really blue.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: No, they're not white. I want you to google that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: That's Iceberg service.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: What are they then? Clear?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: They're like, No, I think they're dark. I think there's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: something with the snow in the way the sun and
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the snow reflects you for the snowblindness, right, yeah, not that,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: but it's the fact that that that their fur and
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: their environment makes them appear totally white.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Well, nothing surprises me anymore. But they used to have
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: polar bears at the Detroit Zoo and we'd see them
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: in the middle of summer and they were white.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's Detroit.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Oh oh okay, Hey, we have a question, a few
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: questions which we should answer. One is from John in
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Newport Beach, all right, and uh, he's putting in a
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: square foot garden, all right. And he had noticed in
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: a previous newsletter patio star zucchini for small spaces and
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: he can't find the seeds anywhere. And John, it's sometimes
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: that seeds sold under another name, which is easier to find,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: and it's asked THEA A S T I A And
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I think Rene's garden has it. And if you Google
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: asked A S T I A seed you'll find the
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: compact meanie perfect.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Good luck on that square foot gardener. I mean, have
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: you ever done that, John the square foot? I mean,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: you know you haven't had a need to, but have
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: you ever just done it to kind of try it out?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I ever had a need to
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: wanted the first garden in Detroit. We lived on a
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: forty foot lot. Okay, so you know that's from one
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: end to the other. There was a garage in the
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: back of the house, and then back of the garage
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: was was a garden that I remember every year going
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: with my dad to the local nursery to buy they
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: would have They didn't have plastic back then, so all
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: the seats were in seed flaps, all the plants weren't
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: seed flat, and they would cut out how many you
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: want it? And every year I would beg him, can
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: we get watermelon? No, we don't have room for watermelon,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: but yeah, he would get tomatoes and say we grew tomatoes, onions, peppers, carrots, bradishes, lettuce, parsley,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: all in that spot, all in that little area behind
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: the garage.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: It was just blowing out. Probably would you.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Like to hear my polar bear perr story.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Only because I know it'll make you feel better.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Polar bear is appear white, but their fur is actually
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: translucent and hollow, and your skin is black. I rest
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: my case.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Told you there clear.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Do you know that Brian's stirt is actually kink.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: In the studio flat? Yeah? Exactly.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Isn't all color have to do with light reflection or
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: lack of light?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is. Now that's sad that that's said.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: We all know that John.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Is color blind, not color blind.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: What are you color challenged?
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yes? Maybe? Yeah, but there's some plast stells that I
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: have trouble with.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: That's okay, But but.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: That's just because he chooses not to acknowledge him, not
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: because he can't see him.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: No, And you know they have color correct and glasses. Yeah,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: and I, oh, world, huh, I have a pair, and
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I put him on so I can see what it
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: is the difference between what I normally perceive as color
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: and whatever the glasses say that how is that experience.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: It's not that much different now. But with the glasses
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I can read and do the color blindness test and
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: get all the the numbers. Yeah with yeah, with them.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Without the glasses, I only get eighty percent correct. They've
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: got maybe twenty percent past.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I remember biology class in tenth grade they did that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: They had colors. Okay, class, what number do you see there?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: And I think maybe, like a few people, I don't
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: see any number. Oh you should see seventy six.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're like, oh, you're color blind.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: You know when I found out I was color blind?
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Was that when I went down for my Army physical
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: and they asked me to read it. They thought I
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: was faking. I don't see any Uh, you're color blind?
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Go over there?
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Well you put that four F? Is that four F?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: No?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: They didn't care.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, they didn't care because they saw all people the same.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I could make some comments now, and I'm not
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: going to. Carla wanted to mention that she killed another
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: different bakiya help.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Well what Carlo, why would you do that? I thought
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: you loved plants. I thought you were loving Helen Keller.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Five times I told.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: You that you killed Helen Keller five times, five times.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think you were born.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Diffn bakiya common dumb cane?
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Dump kind you know why it's called dumb cane.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Why it's called dumb cane. I got a few jokes
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: in my mind like you, but I'm going to filter
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: it out and say no, John tell.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Us, because of the is it ox alocascid crystals that
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: are in the leaves. If you chew on a leaf
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: up and you lose your power of speech right matter
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: of fact, you could choke to.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Death because your tongue would swoll up so much you
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: can't breathe. We did talk about that years ago.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Now I will say with those one of the
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: biggest is your your your source of the plant. You
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: know a lot of the come from box stores and
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: chip them from Florida, barely rooted in, and then you
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: take it home and it just dies. And it's because
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: the plant was never really like growing. It was never
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: really growing, you know, because you can You know those
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: plants they could look beautiful just off of a cutting
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: like a Christmas they know, that's a great example. And
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: if you brought home your Christmas tree, be like, why
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: did does this thing die. You know it's in a
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: pot of soil.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Well it's great for a month.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, No, that's just that's a great example of it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: So so you know, if you you got to be
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: careful where you get it from and make sure it's rooted.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: And if it's not rooted, it takes a little extra
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: care than just keeping it in your house.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: The other two things are deefen Bakia need a lot
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: of light and some people think that they're you know,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: they can put it right without or not near a window.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is there, uh maybe because they're
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: not rooted, tiger, they're easy to over water. Oh yeah,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: you need a really well draining soil. As a matter
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: of fact, if I had a potting soil, I would
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: probably add twenty percent per light to the soil or
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: maybe some cactus mixed to the soil.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Different Bakia, you need a lot of light. It sounded
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: like that was the entire name of the species you
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: were giving. You need a lot of light.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, different bug, you need a lot of light.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not up yet, right.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: No, No, it's I'm enjoying you this morning. I'm I'm
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: happy to be here with both of you. Yeah, but
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes before the break, Tiger go ahead.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I think the biggest challenge that people run into him
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: is is they they like what John said. They think,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: because it's a house plant, it should take a lot
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: of water, it should be able to grow in a
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: living room with you know, the windows closed and all
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: this other stuff. And it's just not it's just not true.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: They they they require, they require almost like a patio
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: or or like a garden n room or something.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Well the patio.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, it would thrive out there.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I see, I see it on my peripheral comments. Are
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: we good? Are we up to date? Here?
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I thought we were taking a break?
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Oh you know what, you might be right, John's taking
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: a break.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: That's good John. John is a cognizant of the reality
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: that surrounds him. We've got just less than a minute.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Right, Well, John is cognizant.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Mark was mentioning that there's lots of river loam around
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: the Sacramento River where you get before shafts damn put it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and so the soils from what was left
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: behind are rich loan. And that's that's true in a
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: lot of river bed area, either old river beds or
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: you know rivers that flood every year like the Nile. Right,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: their life in Egypt would never have.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Existed then, and we're going to take a break on that.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: All right, break time here. We've got one, two, three
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: more segments, a lot a lot of show ahead of it,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of one way have still to come here
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: on Guard in America, taking a break for bistalk. W
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: all right, we have returned. John is feverishly checking all
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the questions comments, want to make sure we don't miss anybody,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: because they're questions important. Every comment we take seriously.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Our listeners are very observant. Tanya in San Jose points out,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: isn't that one behind John one of the.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Oh yeah, and it's thriving too. I wanted
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: it this morning when I came plastic, yeah, spech plastic
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: of species.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, Hey, we missed a question from Veronica. I bought
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: a I think we talked about this one before Theta
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: fig and she's saying it's putting out leaves at the
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: base of it. Do I take them off in hopes
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: that it puts it out on top or just leave
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: them alone? So obviously the fig was dormant. Now it's
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: starting to emerge out of dormancy. But rather than the
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: leaves being out of the top of the tips of
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: the branches where you normally see fig leaves emerge, this
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: is coming from the base. Do you have any thoughts.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not take leaves off the bottom because
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: it's possible the top is dead, right, I was gonna,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: but they're not grafted usually they're usually grown from cutting.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: So you could start new plants, but leave the bottom.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Leave the bottom once on until the top does leaf out.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: If the top never leaves out, then you can cut
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: it back and let the bottom ones come up. But
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: if the top does leaf off, you can go ahead
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: and cut the bottom ones at that point. The bottom
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: leaves now as they come out, are allowing the plant
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: to photosynthesize and build up its root system. So the
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: only thing I could think of is maybe trying to
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: dribble water soluble food over the stems and see if
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: you can push out the growth. Maybe a liquid kelp. Yeah,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: put in a few drops of HB one on one
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: and just see what happens. You can always take a
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: knife and just scrape the bark up near the top
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: and if it's still green, there's a chance that'll leaf out.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: And I want to be clear what john said regarding normally,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: you know, on a citrus or like a stone fruit,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: we would say if it's coming out from the bottom,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: that's not okay because, as he said, they're grafted, which
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: means that that tree on the top is no longer
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: alive and now the sucker, the rootstock material is now
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: trying to grow and you might as well start over again.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: But figs are not grafted, and there's not a I mean,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: I'll say figs, pomegranates. You know, there's a series of
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: different fruiting trees that are not grafted, but for the
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: most part, a lot of them all.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Are sometimes small fruits like blueberries.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, are not so yeah, I think definitely leave the
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: leaves out of the bottom and then, like Johnson, monitor Carla,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: I appreciate your story about the client with the orange tree. Miraculously,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: I did get my little mandarin dug up and put
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: in a pot, so I'll make sure to pay attention
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: to the watering it. What watering scheduled do you suggest
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: in this case, so a potted citrus tree, you know,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: does like to be dried in between waterings as well.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Like the deep watering like we talked about in the ground.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: So it'd be something like where you give it a
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: good soaking, you know, in a in a pot, maybe
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: you know, a five gallon bucket of water or something
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: like that. But then you're gonna let it dry out
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: before you rewater it. You do, yeah, which is a
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: lot of times. Why when you see a bag of
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: a citrus soil, it's it's almost like cactus man, you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: when you buy it at the garden center. So you
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: let it dry out. So you're current probably water maybe
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: once a week, but a good amount of water when
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: you do water, so it really soaks all that soil.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's hard to resaturate the soil. Sometimes when you
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: water you wait that long in between waterings, the water
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: just falls out the bottom of the pot. So in
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: that case, you want to do like a slow drip
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: in a pot to just really re soak that soil
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: and then let it dry out between.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: But it should last at least a week roughly speaking.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's kind of a vague description. I mean,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: if you live in Palm Springs, that might be.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: The case, but always monitor the soil. I think Kevin
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: has some kind of a question about soil monitoring the
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: soil or.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not a good person to answer.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: You don't.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: You don't do that on that because I.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I just look at the soil and stick my finger
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: in there where, you know, mix it around, and if
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: it's good to go, it's good to go.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: You can look at the leaves at least I can't.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: I can look at the leaves until whether or not
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: a plant needs water.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: All right, So we'll just keep cracking here. Then, Carla
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: is speaking of soil. Can you add pumice, pearlite, and
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: sand to raise bed mix soil? But raise bed soil
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: mix and use it as a potting man? I mean
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: pumus maybe, But a lot of times a raised bed
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: mix has a lot of organic material, which if you
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: use that as like a potting mix, might create a
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: little bit of a money mess for you.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: That's all. That's a cocktail.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it depends. It depends a lot on
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: your garden practices, right, Yeah, you know. I'm happy using
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: happy frog potting soil and that's all I use. It's
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: just it adapts to my watering practices and my plants
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: do the best in that.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: You don't like the testy toad. You like the happy frog.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Happy frog? Right, So it depends. You know, if if
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: you never water, if you're away a lot, you might
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: want to moisture retained potting.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: You know, if I had that, it would kill everything
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: that I had because I just water too much.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I gotta read this, Kevin. I got to read
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: this comment from Kevin because I just bought two blueberry plants.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Why two because the first one needed a mate for pollenization.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Blueberry plants are like cats. If you have one, you
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: might as well get two so they could keep each
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: other company when you are not around. Two are more
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: fun than one.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: And that's the story of the blueberry. And see those
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: are the comments we like. He adds a little humor
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: to that. I love it.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, a biblical quote. Two are better than one,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: for they have good reward for their toil.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: And okay, give me the chapter verse. Where's that from?
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I think it's Proverbs?
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, I see the one where you're talking about Kevin's comment. Kevin,
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: please remind us that we should probably own a water
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: level meter. This is how I know Kevin never listens
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: to us, because we have never said you should own
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: a water but don't you see and we've only said
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: you should probably not own a water meter.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: But don't you like the way he proposed it. It's
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: not that he doesn't listen. It's more like he's making
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: a point with a question. Please remind us how you know?
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And Kevin does very intently. He knows what he's doing.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: I'm just joking around, but yeah, I mean the water
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: meter things there. You know, I think we use our finger.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Years ago and I used it for about a week
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: and I said I don't need this because you know something,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: it wasn't always right. Like my finger does a better job.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I can tell if it's you know, if it needs
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: one or not. We're about thirty seconds away from the.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Next Caroline a Newport Beach is still laughing. I know
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: for your comment on the testy toad. We got to
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: take a break so Carolyn can compose herself.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Compose yourself, all right, We're gonna take a break. Hey
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: guess what gang our next segments to one of our
• 58:59
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• 59:02
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• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the break that little what was that thirty seconds or
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: so in between the mics are off?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Back to the question of the comments, saying,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: what did they talk about?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: It's guard in America. If you're just tuning in, just.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: John and Newport Beach says that he grew up in
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: the Willamette Valley and that I was right about the soils.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: He says, all the farm kids that he went to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: school with have now converted their row crops to vineyards.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you were right about the soil. I was
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: right about the polar bears. Tiger was right.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: You were not right about they They are clear, I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: said they and their skin is black. Yeah, you said
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: that they were go ahead, they were white because they
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: were reflecting.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the translucent you know.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Tiger says that they're their fur is clear and I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: just can't see that.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: See now, if there's another never.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Mind we're yeah, keep going answer and I'll answer. I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: think it's Rick who asked the question. And it's so
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: funny because, uh Rick says, I know you like ocean forest,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: but if you were to create your own soil from scratch,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: how would you make it?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is a John question.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Well he would put all the products from ocean force.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just because we know we talked about this several
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: times about how in the old days you had to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: have you had to amend the soil, you had to fertilize,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: do this, do that. A lot of these potting soils,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: especially this has pretty much pretty much everything you would
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: need in one bag.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: You'd have to start with an organic base, so you
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: need thirty percent organic soil, so you can use a
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: planting mix maybe thirty percent you want drainage, and then
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: you add maybe twenty percent per LFE for drainage, and.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: You you would go with perlite over pummics over saying, well.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: It depends what you're using it for. If it's in
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: a pot, I would probably use pearl lte in the
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: ground and not in the ground because it just washes away.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Right, But pumas in the ground, you think.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: You can use pumas in the ground. And also if
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: you have a pot that's going to be top heavy,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: the pearl lighte or the pumas's substance to the soil,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: so if you put something in there, it's not going
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: to just blow over. I don't know. It's like Sharon
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: used to say, it's mendoksi to make your own. Not
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: he soiled too much trouble, you know, just well I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: used hundreds and hundreds of bags of it. So maybe
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not the best person to ask about
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: making your own.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, if you if whatever you've done
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: is working for you, just doing it, yeah, because then
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: you hear somebody else say, well, maybe you should do
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: it this way. Stick to what works for you.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Well, in we live in a new era of garden
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: because you know, John, you could say, you know, back
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: when you first started guarding, you had to buy the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: steer manure, and then you had to mix it with this,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: and then you had to do this. There wasn't all
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: these complete packages, you know. Like also, you know when
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: you went to a garden center there was cottonsee meal,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: blood meal, bone meal, you know, batguano, and then you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: had to take them home. And you mix them up
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: to make.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Your buy the bats. That was a big tricky part
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: to buy the bats and bring the bats home and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: get the bat guana from the bats.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: But nowadays, you know, so many companies have created their
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: recipes for fertilizers, for potting soils, for planting mixes. They
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: you don't have to do that as much as you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: used to. You know, they don't have the simples like
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: what we call them, where they're the individual items. You know,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: that's not as normal anymore as it used to be.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I wonder how successful I would be if I had
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: to start planning in the grounding. Back when I had
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: my home near the beach, I was all ground. There
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: was no pots, and I did not know what I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: was but I did. Okay, But I've been doing pot
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: with pots for so long now that's what I'm used to.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: You'd probably overwater stuff for a while.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I would. Yeah. I think you're right, yeah, because now
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: everything's in that pot. But in the ground, they're reaching
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: out right, left, back forth. You know, they're going to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: get there up and down, up, down, They're going to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: search for water, They're going to search for nutrients. In
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: the ground. There's a lot more area to cover.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Veronica makes a comment.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: How long are we going to keep doing this show? No?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: She says that tomatoes love bone meal.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Tomatoes love bone meal?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: What would you think? My response that would be, I.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: Mean, what do I don't know where you're going to?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I think John would say that's not something I would use.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't use bone meal in southern calif Fornia
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: because it's alkaline and it's too much acidity. Too much acidity.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: No, the bone meal is alkaline, right, so you wouldn't
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: so you don't want to make the soil more.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: That's that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I guess that's what
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, too much.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And what bone meal does is does provide calcium,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: which is why Veronica would say tomatoes love it, because
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: that way you don't get blossom andra. Yep, that's what
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: prevents blossom andra. But you can do the same thing
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: with gypsum, which is not going to affect the pH
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: of the soil.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Are we still at six point five as a rule?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Like six point five to seven is ideal? But some
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: plants prefer alkaline soil. Lilacs, for instance, there used to
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: be another garden show and in San Diego, and it
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: used to bother me every time I would hear them
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: talk about planning lilacs and how you had to acidify
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: the soil when you planted it. And you know that's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: because people in southern California don't know how to grow lilacs.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: But they want just the opposite. They want alkaline soil.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Same thing with clementis. I believe they prefer alkaline soil.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: John Clemenus or Buddy.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: John clet.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: You would say clematis, Bryan.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Would you would say tomato?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: You'd say chips instead of French frise, wouldn't you if
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: you were in England.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: I'm going to just start saying that just to mess
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: with it.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: And for like Dolrito's or other potato chips, it's crisp, crisps,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: crisps and chips, yep, exactly.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: I remember the first time I went to New Zealand
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and took my daughter down there, and uh, we we
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: we're visiting some people and they said, put it in
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: the boot.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: The trunk.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Excuse me when you yeah, just put it in the boot,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: said I looked around, looked at my shoes.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: And Johnson, I feel very uncomfortable, right, yeah, I apologize.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: I have no idea that being the kind of British
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: word for trunk, Yeah, the trunk or your car.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: And what do they call trucks there?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Trucks?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trucks like a pickup truck. Yeah, come on, somebody
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: somebody on Facebook in England.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, they don't call them true.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Their their.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: Lifts like or like I said, I left is an elevator.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: They call semi trucks something else.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Somebody jumping on Facebook here, we'll figure it out.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Never there's another word.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not part of that world.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: Brian a long boot, Oh my god.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, somebody will jump in trucks.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Big trees, John and Newport Beach, thank you very much.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Lauries, Yeah, you're right, polar bears and lurries. He's doing
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: out today.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: Rick wants to know if you could add Ozma cot
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: to cover the base.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: You're a big Osma col guy, aren't you.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: I used to use OZMA code. I don't anymore, but yeah,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: OZMA code is nice, especially you don't have to worry
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: about you do it once the beginning of the season.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about it the rest.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Of the anytime I get a plant from John, there's
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: ozma code in there.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: I know, years going hard. I don't know, if you know,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: products change over the years, tigers, So I don't know
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: if ozma code has changed the way it's released. But
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: used to be that there would be some damage to
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: to root hairs if it was mixed in the soil.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: So they would always recommend putting ozma code on the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: top or mix it into just the very top, not
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: to put it in the But I don't know if
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: that's still true.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know either. Yeah, I haven't used ozma coat
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: in a long time. Yeah, one more thing, just throw
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: in the happy sure start fertilizers, stuff like that.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: So Carlo is telling Rick get some miracle or grow
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: organic from Costco. It's on sale this time a year,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: and add sand and pumus, mix it in a big
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: tub and you've got a lot ready to go. Quite
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: economical and it usually works, all right, So that's what
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: we've been saying. It works for you. The word there
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: that would make me think twice, I know.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: What you're going to say.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Usually yeah, usually, yeah, I don't. I can't. I can't
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: deal with Usually I need to be one hundred for now.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: You know what, though, that's not really true because you
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: and I are the same thought process at times where
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: when someone says that won't grow here, you can't do that,
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  Speaker 2: and we do it and sometimes we're successful. Usually, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we have to take a break here. I'm just looking
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  Speaker 2: at the clock. One more segment coming up is this
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  Speaker 2: show has been a lot of fun. Hope you're having
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  Speaker 2: a good time. Hope you having fun. One more segment
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  Speaker 2: gard in America back after these message the fun his
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  Speaker 2: talk reading a right ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
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  Speaker 2: Final segment from the markers down it not.
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  Speaker 4: Yet, but are you keeping track of your score to
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  Speaker 4: remember to give yourself two points? Polar Bears and and.
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  Speaker 2: Laurie. Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't have the answer though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just knew what they weren't truck.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's you deserve props for just thinking of the question. True,
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  Speaker 3: you don't always need the answer.
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  Speaker 2: You know what a boot is now, right John?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: If I told John put it in the boot, he
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  Speaker 2: would pop the trunk.
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  Speaker 4: There's a funny quote from that show Ted Lasso, because
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  Speaker 4: you know it's these guys in America from America going
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  Speaker 4: to England to coach soccer. And so the trunk is
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  Speaker 4: called the boot. Soccer cleats are called boots.
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  Speaker 2: Boots.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they call them boots soccer cleats. And then there
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  Speaker 4: was something else and so oh, I think like a
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  Speaker 4: backpack or a suitcase or something. And so he was commenting,
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  Speaker 4: So if I was to tell you take your cleats,
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  Speaker 4: put him in the bag, put him in the trunk,
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  Speaker 4: I'd say, take your boots, put him in boot, and
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  Speaker 4: then stick him in the boot.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, and not necessarily in that order,
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  Speaker 2: but pretty close.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: John mentions, since we're on the soil topic of soil
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  Speaker 3: that there's a great book called Finding the Mother Tree, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: by Suzanne Simmer. He says, well, he might want to
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  Speaker 3: have a show focused on roots sometimes, okay, and we
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  Speaker 3: could do that. Old Minis won the first miniseries right.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the late seventies, right, yea, that's not just
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  Speaker 2: one of those where you were for some reason, you see, like.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't go back and see what you miss if
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  Speaker 3: you missed one that was.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't know those days, do you do
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  Speaker 2: you really? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Before before what was what was it was it t
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  Speaker 4: V O remember the first thing that you could like
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  Speaker 4: rewind your record your shows, or because.
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  Speaker 2: It was before DV the very first time a friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine said, hey, I've got a video recorder. Really, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: come on, we'll show you. And he had, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the first movies that came out. He stuck it in
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  Speaker 2: and there it was on his TV and he goes, watch,
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  Speaker 2: I can pose it just like this was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 4: But I mean so, I was before they had that
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  Speaker 4: DVR or your ability.
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  Speaker 2: To remember TV. If you got up and left the room,
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  Speaker 2: you miss it? Was it you missed?
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  Speaker 4: You hear yelling? You know you hear yelling in the room.
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  Speaker 4: Oh what and you can running back and what it means?
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Or or come on, we're back, come on, it's good starting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Carol is getting in a preemptive apology. Oh, she says
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  Speaker 3: that she's guessing miracle grow it's a dirty word. But
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  Speaker 3: this is organic with no food and it's just good stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know you didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I specifically tried not to say anything bad about miracle grow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's why.
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  Speaker 2: If it works for you, just yeah, if you like
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  Speaker 2: thin cell walls on a planters didn't go ahead. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with them.
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  Speaker 3: She's talking about organic stuff, right.
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  Speaker 2: I bought.
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  Speaker 3: Scott some miracle growers still uncompany.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah they are.
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  Speaker 3: I bought twenty bags.
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  Speaker 4: Of Scott's red molts black molts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you hauled it in at midnight so nobody
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  Speaker 2: would see you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's any When I set it down, it just
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  Speaker 3: looked black in the bag five clear, and I put
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  Speaker 3: it on the ground. Right, isn't it like when it
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  Speaker 3: was last year? It was five ten, Now it's four
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  Speaker 3: for ten. Oh is it twenty five percent? Anyway? I
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  Speaker 3: like the way that looks.
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  Speaker 4: Chip ship black. Chipped up palettes is getting more expensive.
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  Speaker 4: I guess, honey, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: This kind of always used to paint it black.
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  Speaker 2: This is kind of off the topic. But when you
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  Speaker 2: talked about the soil in Oregon, immediately came to mind
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  Speaker 2: was Mount Saint Helen's when it erupted back in nineteen eight.
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  Speaker 3: Volchanic soils.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, in that whole area Hawaii, the.
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  Speaker 3: Whole all they have in Hawaii is volcanics.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know northern Arizona where I went to school,
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  Speaker 2: big volcanic area right there too, because the cystial peaks
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  Speaker 2: are right there. Flagstaffe and we used to ski in
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  Speaker 2: the snow bowl. There's a big bowl up there from
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  Speaker 2: when it exploded years ago. But great soil.
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  Speaker 3: You guys have been to Fallbrook, right, How would you
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  Speaker 3: describe the town of Fallbrook?
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  Speaker 2: The town quaint, quaint, quaint, like driving through a little
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  Speaker 2: small mid Western town.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he's not huge. Yeah, like everyone you know.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Drucker, you know, hey works at the drug store.
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  Speaker 2: You know Betty lose your weight.
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  Speaker 3: Running at the store that you know, right? Would you
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  Speaker 3: think they would put in a big, huge skateboard park?
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 3: No, why would you do that? What now as a
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  Speaker 3: new subdivision or something?
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  Speaker 2: Now? Where where is it? Is it kind of on
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  Speaker 2: the outskirts or no?
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  Speaker 3: It's on on Fallbrooks Street right across right down the
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  Speaker 3: street from the Senior Citizens Center.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Okay, here's what I thought you were going to say.
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  Speaker 2: First of allah, maybe maybe not. I thought you were
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  Speaker 2: going to say they're gonna put in a huge Costco
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  Speaker 2: or a big Walmart right there.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what I will say about Ballbrook too,
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  Speaker 4: it's also well known for kind of extreme sports people
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  Speaker 4: to come at it because I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, did Tony Hawk come out of there?
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  Speaker 4: No, I think that was that's needed. But but no,
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  Speaker 4: because you guys are so out there that people have property,
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  Speaker 4: so they ride motorcycles, they do mountain biking, they skateboard,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of a lot of the youth out
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  Speaker 4: of that area grew up I think with those kinds
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  Speaker 4: of people. So I think that it probably is now
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  Speaker 4: getting to that point. You want to.
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  Speaker 2: Impress people in Fallbrook.
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  Speaker 4: You're rade, especially skateboard, no helmet on.
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  Speaker 2: And put a skateboard. Carry a skateboard and the helmet around. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: don't even ride it, just carried around. Go into a store,
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  Speaker 2: go into a coffee shop and just see what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Just see you. Yeah, skateboard under the arm, helmet on.
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  Speaker 2: Don't even acknowledge it. Yeah, that's what I would do. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we have to wrap things up here.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's the end of the show.
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  Speaker 2: The end of the show, the end of an era.
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  Speaker 4: We're got to get to guardening. Then springtime. Everyone's got
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  Speaker 4: to get outside.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the weather gets a little warmer. We can do
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  Speaker 2: a remote. Let's go some place and do the show
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  Speaker 2: outside of the studio.
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  Speaker 3: We had some cosmetic questions we weren't even able to
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  Speaker 3: get to because well, I can ask having trouble with
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  Speaker 3: her gorilla hair.
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  Speaker 2: I can answer foundation questions. As far as makeup, we
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  Speaker 2: can do that next week, all right, Permanent makeup is
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: a big thing too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sorry we can't get to everyone's question
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  Speaker 3: that was left done here?
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  Speaker 2: Can you reask it next week if you remember.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we'll get to them and you can get.
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  Speaker 2: A little testy with us. That's fine. You know last
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  Speaker 2: week I asked a question and you ignored me. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: answered it. We don't mind, right, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know, and Rick ended up. Rick ended the show
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  Speaker 3: with a really great question we couldn't get to.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, save it for next week. We're gonna tease you.
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  Speaker 2: Biz Talk Radio, Stephanie, Thanks to Facebook Live. I'm Brian Maine,
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