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Furness Show 8-25: Corbin Smith, Everett Fitzhugh, Gary Hill Jr. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Rentals Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKRFM
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  Speaker 1: Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Headlines are brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Frostbrood Coors Light, like we all expected. Cal Raleigh.
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  Speaker 2: Took a while. Where have you been? Three home run
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  Speaker 2: game last night. Career high, three bombs. The Mariners putting
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  Speaker 2: up eight. Count them, eight runs on Zach Wheeler and
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  Speaker 2: the Red Hot Phillies. Julio went deep. Cole Young went deep.
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  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert, good enough. Five innings, two run ball. Mariners
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  Speaker 2: wrap the Phillies 9-2. And tonight, George Kirby against the
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  Speaker 2: guy turning it around lately, Aaron Nola. They'll be on
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  Speaker 2: the mound. in game two of the series at T-Mobile Park. Additionally,
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  Speaker 2: Mariners rookie shortstop Colt Emerson will have season-ending surgery on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: That's tomorrow. That's to repair a partially dislocated tendon, left wrist.
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  Speaker 2: The expectation, he'll be ready for the start of this
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  Speaker 2: next season, according to GM Justin Hollander, who spoke with
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  Speaker 2: the media last evening before the game. Emerson has been
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  Speaker 2: battling the injury since spring training as well. The Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: back home from Nashville. They'll practice in Renton today, tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: and Thursday. Quick turnaround after that. They'll take on the
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. Final preseason game coming up on Friday. Starters,
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  Speaker 2: in case you're looking, don't bother. They're not playing again,
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  Speaker 2: and neither is rookie running back Jadarian Price. In soccer news,
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  Speaker 2: Sounders FC acquiring Deion Jones. Juvalich, Dejan Juvalich from Sporting
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City in exchange for $ 6 million in cash. The
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  Speaker 2: Serbian international bringing much-needed firepower here to the Sounders with
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  Speaker 2: 107 career goals in all competitions, three league championships, over
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  Speaker 2: 11 pro seasons, by the way, on his resume in
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  Speaker 2: Europe and in the U.S., No big deal. The Sounders
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  Speaker 2: got a big one. Out of the show we go.
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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness is off doing day-off things. The most valuable producer,
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  Speaker 2: the MVP, is on the other side of the glass.
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  Speaker 2: We call him Ogre the Moger, I think, or Moger
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  Speaker 2: the Ogre. Soft he does. Yeah, he does. He's after
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  Speaker 2: this show. It's a different show. I never heard that
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  Speaker 2: one before. I've done work with you, of course, for
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  Speaker 2: about roughly a year, at least on the Kraken side.
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  Speaker 2: We may have to use that, by the way, down
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  Speaker 2: the road. But I'll go with MVP, most valuable producer.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Travis Mogers on the other side of the glass.
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  Speaker 2: We had a bit of a shuffle and then some.
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  Speaker 2: Here for today. Again, 49451 Tacoma Dodge Tech. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to be covering it all today. And I mean covering
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  Speaker 2: it all from Mariners and the implications and the fallout
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  Speaker 2: of last night to the final preseason game for the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks against the Chiefs. Again, the starters on the shelf.
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  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price on the shelf. It's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: depth game, and as Greg Bell mentioned about a few
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  Speaker 2: moments ago, there's not much depth as far as open spots,
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  Speaker 2: but yet there is still more conversation on this as
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  Speaker 2: far as where the Seahawks are moving. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: get to this in a bit. Also, something very curious
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  Speaker 2: caught my eye on the Kraken. We're not into hockey
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  Speaker 2: season yet. We will be in about one month with
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  Speaker 2: preseason games next. training camp will be opening in less
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  Speaker 2: than a month. But for several weeks, we have been
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  Speaker 2: sitting back wondering what's happening next with this roster. We
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  Speaker 2: heard the word aggressive that was used as late as
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  Speaker 2: development camp. That was back in early July about the
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  Speaker 2: You're bringing in a big name. The Kraken tried their
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  Speaker 2: swing at this. No Jason Robertson. He preferred to go
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  Speaker 2: elsewhere and then eventually stay in Dallas. Yet, here we
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  Speaker 2: are on August 25th, one day after a story comes
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  Speaker 2: out on NHL.com, Jason Botterill telling Kevin Woodley, there could
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  Speaker 2: be as many, get this, as seven to eight guys
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  Speaker 2: on this roster who are forwards at 23 years of
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  Speaker 2: age or younger.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You do the math. For so long, we have heard
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  Speaker 2: about potentially... Where do they go again after a big
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  Speaker 2: fork in the road that they just moved on from
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  Speaker 2: with no playoffs for the fourth time in five seasons?
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to go aggressive and overturn the roster
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  Speaker 2: again and lean into proven talent that you bring in
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  Speaker 2: via free agency and trades? Or do you just want
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  Speaker 2: to say, forget it. There are young kids coming. make
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  Speaker 2: room for them this year. Well, Jason Botterill said last
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  Speaker 2: night to NHL.com, there could be the young kids coming again.
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  Speaker 2: He said seven or eight forwards, a possibility they could
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  Speaker 2: be here 23 years or younger by opening night. So
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  Speaker 2: you do the math. There is a lot. And I
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  Speaker 2: mean a lot to go forward from there. Everett Fitch
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  Speaker 2: is going to be joining us by the way, to
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  Speaker 2: talk about this at 1.20. On the Seahawks side, Corbin Smith,
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  Speaker 2: our good friend of the program, jumping in right back
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  Speaker 2: again at 12.20, coming up shortly. And at 2 p.m.,
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  Speaker 2: Gary Hill Jr. on the Mariners as they get set
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  Speaker 2: for Game 2 of this series. And I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: is a gigantic one. It is a massive one against
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  Speaker 2: the Phillies. Because, Travis, as of this moment, I still
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to say about the Mariners. The thing
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  Speaker 2: that they do so well this year is that They
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  Speaker 2: do the funniest things ever. They will go and rip
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  Speaker 2: off literally four wins in a row, maybe five wins
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  Speaker 2: in a row, three or four maybe, and then next
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  Speaker 2: day get blown out 22 to nothing or 19 to two.
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  Speaker 4: This is the most unpredictable season I can remember. It's
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  Speaker 4: a roller coaster ride. They get blown out 19 to
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  Speaker 4: two and then turn things around and Cal has three bombs.
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  Speaker 4: They destroy Zach Wheeler, one of the best pitchers in
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  Speaker 4: the National League.
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  Speaker 2: What is happening?
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a graphic last night watching the Mariners broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: To me, I had to chuckle with Aaron Goldsmith bringing
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  Speaker 2: this up. It's the most Mariner thing ever. Before last
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  Speaker 2: night's win, they were 6-10 or 6-4 last 10 days.
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  Speaker 2: Best in the AL West. But their run differential in
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  Speaker 2: that 10-day span? A whopping minus 34, baby. A whopping
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  Speaker 2: minus 34. So Cal Raleigh has a multi-home run game
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  Speaker 2: and not just a multi-home run game. The first Mariner
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  Speaker 2: to have three home runs in a game in that
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  Speaker 2: ballpark ever. And the first on home turf since Edgar
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  Speaker 2: Martinez in the Kingdome back in 1999. When I was
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to walk away from the podium of Glendora
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  Speaker 2: High School onto the colleges as well. That's how long
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  Speaker 2: it's been. 4-9-4-5-1. Has Cal turned this around? It's late
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  Speaker 2: in the year, but are we seeing something 4-9-4-5-1? But
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  Speaker 2: back to what you're talking about, Travis, about how rollercoaster-ish
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  Speaker 2: this season has been. Greg Bell brought up such a
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  Speaker 2: remarkable and, I think, spot-on comparison for what this baseball
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  Speaker 2: team has been acting like here for much of this season.
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  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought at times when they're at their worst,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like walking into a fancy car dealership
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  Speaker 2: and you walk in and see no cars. There's all
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  Speaker 2: the bells and whistles. There's the glitz. There's the shine
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  Speaker 2: on the walls and the windows. Premium coffee right here
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  Speaker 2: for you. But where are the cars? To me, Travis,
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  Speaker 2: this team is like I-5 traffic. You hit the gas
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  Speaker 2: for five miles. You slam to a screeching halt. You
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  Speaker 2: look around at just a remarkable flaming wreckage wherever it is,
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  Speaker 2: or a three-car pileup along the way. Then you get
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  Speaker 2: out of it and hit the gas right again. Then
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  Speaker 2: who knows about roughly 15 miles, 20 miles, you're hitting
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  Speaker 2: the brakes once again. Lather, rinse, repeat. This team right
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  Speaker 2: now feels like I-5 traffic.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm drawing comparisons to having young children today.
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  Speaker 4: Where one minute they're the sweetest thing imaginable.
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  Speaker 2: They're saying please and thank you. And you can ask me.
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  Speaker 2: I've got two kids also.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Mine are five and eight. And one second they're, you know, oh, daddy,
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  Speaker 4: you're the best. I love you so much. And then
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  Speaker 4: the next second they're screaming like a terrorist, getting whatever they,
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  Speaker 4: you know, trying to get whatever they want. crying and
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  Speaker 4: throwing things across the room. It just feels like up
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  Speaker 4: and down, back and forth. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And then you learn about the value of patience. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe patience maybe applies most, I think, not just as
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  Speaker 2: a baseball team, but for what was really, I think,
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  Speaker 2: the craziest season in American League history, as far as
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  Speaker 2: at least from what I remember. Somebody could legitimately win
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  Speaker 2: this division with a sub-500 record.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I remember a couple of bad teams back in the
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  Speaker 2: two Ks. Remember, I think at one point, how bad
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  Speaker 2: the St. Louis Cardinals were and they won the World Series.
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  Speaker 2: How bad the San Diego Potters, I believe, were also
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  Speaker 2: one year and they made the playoffs as like an
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  Speaker 2: 80-ish win team. It just kind of feels like how
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  Speaker 2: bad that was, but it's worse. With this baseball team,
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  Speaker 2: my thing is you win one, you lose one. You
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  Speaker 2: win one, you lose one. You win two, you lose 22-0.
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  Speaker 2: You win two more, you lose 19-2, and then you
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  Speaker 2: bust out a five-homer game the very next day and
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  Speaker 2: Cal has three bombs. So I think for me, there
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  Speaker 2: are two sides of this. The glass half-full side, the
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  Speaker 2: optimistic side is Cal's figuring it out. Julio is now
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  Speaker 2: turning it around. This offense finally is showing up. They're
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  Speaker 2: putting some consistent wins together. There is a chance for
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  Speaker 2: this baseball team to make the postseason. And to some credit,
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  Speaker 2: it's absolutely true. They're only three games back of first
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  Speaker 2: place in the American League West. You put yourself on
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  Speaker 2: a five, six game heater, you could easily find yourself
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  Speaker 2: not just in first place, but also comfortably in first
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  Speaker 2: place because it's mind-boggling how much they've hung around with
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  Speaker 2: their record as of today 63 and 69 and yet
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  Speaker 2: they are trailing one of the teams who not just
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  Speaker 2: did fire you know who didn't just fire their gm
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  Speaker 2: but told their manager hit the road jack after this season.
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  Speaker 4: Neither the rangers nor the astros are scary right now
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  Speaker 4: the mariners they're take this opportunity and win the division.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we all predicted from the beginning. There was
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  Speaker 4: a point where I was just like, I almost would
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  Speaker 4: rather them be in a better division and the season
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  Speaker 4: would be just a lost season and I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 4: to be on this crazy ride where it's up and down,
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  Speaker 4: up and down.
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  Speaker 2: My emotions are being toyed with. And that's the one
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  Speaker 2: thing is that people, I mean, and on the other side,
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  Speaker 2: with the glass half empty, people around here are just
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  Speaker 2: tired of having their emotions toyed with with this baseball team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but..
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  Speaker 2: They're in it.
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  Speaker 5: They're in it.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, they showed last night that the bats
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  Speaker 4: are still alive.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know what to make of this team.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, whatever Cal Raleigh is doing right now, he's
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  Speaker 2: got to keep doing it here at this point. Because
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  Speaker 2: this swing, I mean, I will admit, you know, watching,
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  Speaker 2: listening to the analysis of this, something's starting to kind
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  Speaker 2: of click a little bit. Now the issue is consistency.
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  Speaker 2: But consistency is the biggest issue for this baseball team.
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  Speaker 2: And now you hope that Brian Moose says he's healthy.
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  Speaker 2: He'll pitch, apparently, tomorrow. Bryce Miller, it took a while
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  Speaker 2: for him to come out and say, yeah, I've kind
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  Speaker 2: of been battling some health problems here. How useful is
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  Speaker 2: he going to be down the stretch? Especially given the
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  Speaker 2: fact now Cade Anderson has entered the chat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he didn't have maybe his best stuff. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 2: being self-critical. But if he goes out and does this again,
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  Speaker 2: maybe two more times over, he's here to stay, not
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  Speaker 2: just in this baseball team, but also in postseason rotation
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  Speaker 2: consideration on top of that. Oh, a thousand percent.
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  Speaker 4: I think Bryce, if he's feeling healthy enough, he should
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  Speaker 4: be in the bullpen. Minimize his exposure, keep him to
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  Speaker 4: an inning or two, and you go back to a
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  Speaker 4: five-man rotation. Cade has shown he can handle himself maybe
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  Speaker 4: uh dan will pull him a little earlier if he
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  Speaker 4: starts to struggle um but i think they're set up
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  Speaker 4: for a run they have to be.
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  Speaker 2: Well and also it goes back to that point you
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  Speaker 2: know what does dan wilson do again if he's back
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  Speaker 2: in this situation because this has also been a hot
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  Speaker 2: topic with when does he make the right decisions if
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  Speaker 2: at all i don't have to open the wound again
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  Speaker 2: back in game seven last year but guess what happened
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  Speaker 2: when you had to push the right button uh-uh It
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  Speaker 2: didn't happen, unfortunately. So, hey, 49451, drop it in right now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how are you feeling about this baseball team
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  Speaker 2: after last night? I mean, are they good to go?
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  Speaker 2: Are they back? Or are they real? Or do you
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  Speaker 2: want to see more? And what do you want to
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  Speaker 2: see more of? 49451, Tacoma Dodge text line, Seahawks in
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  Speaker 2: the meantime. We apparently have seen enough of their starters.
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  Speaker 2: They're out of the mix here for one last run
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  Speaker 2: in the preseason against Kansas City. What do we make
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  Speaker 2: of the QB room, fullback, offensive line, cornerbacks in the picture?
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  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith will talk about this right around the corner
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  Speaker 2: here on 93.3 KJR FM. Now back to Ian Furness
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  Speaker 2: on your home for the Huskies, Kraken, and the 12th man.
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  Speaker 2: on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. One more preseason matchup
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  Speaker 2: to go, and then finally it is for real for
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  Speaker 2: the defending champs. Seahawks in Kansas City coming up on
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  Speaker 2: Friday for a 5 p.m. kickoff. We have basically answered
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  Speaker 2: every question across the board with who will be here
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  Speaker 2: on this roster. I think maybe the one hang-up on
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  Speaker 2: that is, will Nick Emanwari be ready here for week
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  Speaker 2: number one? And I'll just go ahead and throw this
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  Speaker 2: line out there, 49451, Tacoma Dodge text line. Are you
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  Speaker 2: convinced that Nick Emanwuri plays in Week 1? After all
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  Speaker 2: the chatter, after all the fuss, the surgeries, do you
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  Speaker 2: see him playing here in Week 1, 4-9, 4-5-1? We're
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: expecting to get to Corbin Smith here in just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit from Emerald City Spectrum. But a lot to
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  Speaker 2: go over despite a game that will basically feature everything
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  Speaker 2: out of the picture from your starters. Do not get
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  Speaker 2: anybody else banged up here in this game. If there
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  Speaker 2: is one thing I think that sticks out to me, Travis,
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  Speaker 2: in that you're playing a game trying to outline your
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  Speaker 2: depth because depth can certainly matter. Just look at what
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are doing here in their secondary in the
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  Speaker 2: loss of Eamon Warrie. Can you at least find something
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  Speaker 2: to line everybody up and everything up so that you're
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  Speaker 2: not caught, say, if you have another catastrophic injury? Just
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  Speaker 2: ask how those guys in Santa Clara are dealing with
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  Speaker 2: all of this right now, especially in this preseason.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But if there's any front office that I trust to
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  Speaker 4: find the guys, it's this front office.
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  Speaker 2: I believe in John Schneider. I believe in McDonald.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that they will find the right fits to
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  Speaker 4: back up the players and fill the holes on the team.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, injuries suck.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's not a great preseason so far, what's happened,
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  Speaker 4: but I trust them to find the right pieces to
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  Speaker 4: fit the puzzle.
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  Speaker 2: And this is where I think the GM's role has
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  Speaker 2: really come out and I think taken the spotlight here
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  Speaker 2: ever since the Seahawks went through this massive changeover with
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  Speaker 2: how John Schneider operates, what they do bringing in Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald and that. You know, we're talking about a stark
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  Speaker 2: contrast back when Pete Carroll ran this and John Schneider
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  Speaker 2: was basically his co-pilot here for this, if I can
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  Speaker 2: use that analogy. But again, I think it has peeled
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  Speaker 2: back the curtain on just how much of a great
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  Speaker 2: talent evaluator John Schneider has been to put all this together.
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  Speaker 2: And the more that you go into your final preseason
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  Speaker 2: game with less question marks, especially at the top, you're
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  Speaker 2: doing yourselves a pretty big favor. And that's where this
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  Speaker 2: team is at right now, despite all the chatter we're
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  Speaker 2: hearing about. Could the Niners be back on the rise?
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  Speaker 2: Could the Rams be back in the picture once again?
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  Speaker 2: But has this team earned enough respect, I think, even
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  Speaker 2: after winning a Super Bowl? I don't think so, but
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  Speaker 2: you tell me, 49451, Tacoma Dodge text line. Against Kansas City.
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  Speaker 2: where I'm looking, when you talk about their depth and
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  Speaker 2: there are no starters, the wide receiver room has a
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  Speaker 2: bit more of a question mark because you have no
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  Speaker 2: Jake Bobo. Now, of course, there's the answer of what
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  Speaker 2: do you do right behind, say, JSN, Rashid Shahid, going
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  Speaker 2: right down the list, even Cooper Cup. You have your
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  Speaker 2: cornerback depth maybe jumbled a little bit with no Bud Clark.
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  Speaker 2: So the greatest battle to me might be, I think,
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  Speaker 2: looking at that depth and plus also the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: But don't take my opinion here for it. Let's bring
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  Speaker 2: this guy's valuable opinion into this right now. On the
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  Speaker 2: Beacon Plumbing Hotline, the one and only Corbin Smith of
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  Speaker 2: Emerald City Spectrum. Corbin, hi.
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  Speaker 5: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Have you had enough of training camp here?
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  Speaker 6: Well, whatever they call it now since camp, they say
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  Speaker 6: camp was over a few weeks ago, but I guess
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  Speaker 6: we can call these preseason practices.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at the joint practices thing with Jake
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  Speaker 2: Bobo going down and then the entries that have been
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  Speaker 2: piled up here for preseason training camp as well, I
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  Speaker 2: think at least there's a sliver of You know, I
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: think solace in that you're looking at less question marks
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: here at the top and you're looking more more so
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: here at death. But I mean, we've had this topic
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: thrown around a lot here on on these radio airwaves
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: about joint practices. How much do preseason games matter? I
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: go back and think after the joint practice here in Tennessee,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: where do you lie on how useful they are?
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Look, I think at this point, these guys have got
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: to have a way to get ready for week one.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: I don't think that just going in with a bunch
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: of training camp practices, especially now that they are much
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: more restrictive in terms of contact and tackling, I don't
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: think you can go into the regular season without any...
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: game type scenarios so if you're not going to play
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: guys in the preseason i think the joint practices are
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: still the best way to go about it because you
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: do get the control of the elements to an extent
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: you know in a preseason game it's a true football
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: game guys are tackling they're being brought to the ground
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: but in a joint practice you can change the pacing
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: and you can make it that it's uh thud it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: Tempo instead where they're rapping, but they're not bringing guys
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: down and you can get quicker whistles. So I think
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: that there are ways that this is still better than
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: just throwing guys in for preseason games and just hoping
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: they don't get hurt. And unfortunately... Jake Bobo's injury is
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: one that could have happened in a non-padded practice from
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: the understanding I have, the way the injury went down.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: That is just the unfortunate reality of football and pro sports.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: With Jake Bobo out of the picture, I mean, we
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about depth and how much this
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: is kind of all mattering here in this last game
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: against Kansas City because there's going to be no starters
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: here in this game. But, I mean, for as well-rounded
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that the wide receiver room is here for this football team,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you look at maybe cornerback depth, maybe if you want
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to call that jumbled or not, the offensive line as well.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think to you going into this last preseason game, Corbin,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: where's the greatest battle going to be waged? with this roster?
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: I think that the two spots I'm still looking at
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: are the back end of the cornerback group. And I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: really curious how running back plays out at this point,
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: because Emmanuel Wilson, we'll see if he's out there this
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: week for practice, but he's been sidelined for multiple weeks
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: with a hamstring injury. And if he's not going to
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: be ready for week one, you have to believe that
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: either Jakartier Wright or Bayless Jones Jr., one or the other,
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: is going to be on this roster in week one.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: At least they're going to be practice squad guys that
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: are called up. So I think those two guys, seeing
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: where they potentially fit in for the start of the
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: season and the quarterback position where I don't know that
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: we're going to get to see Trayvon Diggs. My prediction
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: is that Seattle's going to hold him out and just
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: make sure he's ready for the regular season being a bat.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: But It's a big game for Michael Dansby and Andre
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Fuller and, to a lesser extent, Noah Igbenogany, who I
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: expect all three are going to play quite a bit
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: of snaps in Kansas City.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I love the fact that you brought Diggs up here
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: as Corbin Smith joins us right now on the Beacon
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Plumbing Hotline. I'll get to the backfield here, fullbacks as well,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: in just a bit. With Diggs in the picture and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the possibility that the Seahawks could put him so to speak,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: on the shelf. How long do you see this playing
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: out with them before they may need him?
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: I think that they're going to probably open the season
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: with Nehemiah Pritchett as the number three, and they're going
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: to go into this process with the belief, hey, let's
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: see where he's at, and if Trayvon Diggs gets his
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: legs underneath him, and they're happy with where he's at
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: in the system. There are coaches on this staff that
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: have worked with him in the past. That relationship may
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: end up paving the way for him to play within
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: the first few weeks, but I would anticipate that this
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: is more of an insurance policy at this point.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a player who already seems pretty comfortable with his
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: surroundings right now just based on the relationship factor. We
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: heard him talk about this here from this last week.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: On to the fullback position. No Robbie Utes, obviously, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: it looks like Brady Russell is the guy, and yet
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: is not a traditional fullback. So I think speaking to that,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: do you think Corbin at this point is in the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: direction to go after another fullback on the market?
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: They've already brought one in for a visit. They've got
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Brock Lampie on the roster. The issue is it is
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: so hard to find a traditional fullback now. Colleges are
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: not kicking him out with the proliferation of the spread.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: So..
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: If they're going to keep another one around, I would
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: anticipate that Brock Lampe is going to be on the
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: practice squad because he's played for Thomas Hammock, the running
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: back coach, when he was at Northern Illinois. There's that
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: connection there. And look, I'm not saying Brady Russell is
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Kyle Juszczyk because he's not, but he's much more closely
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: aligned to what Juszczyk's strengths are than what Robbie Hoots was.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: So I think that... They're still going to be able
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: to make that work with him as the fullback. They
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: can move some of their tight ends to the backfield occasionally.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: I think they're going to find ways to work around
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: it without having to go out and try to side
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: somebody else. Unless a true fullback gets released by somebody
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: else at the waiver wire, then maybe they'll look at
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: potentially bringing him on board in that case.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if they can maybe clone Mike Alstott
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: or something like that here in this case, but hey,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I kid. As far as the quarterback room, we're not
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: going to spend much time on this for obvious reasons.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you have stability like this, it really
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: says a lot about where your football team is positioned,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: especially coming off of this last year with Sam Darnold.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And then drew lock as well. But Jalen Milrow was
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a lightning rod for conversation after this last weekend and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: where his throws were going or did not go. So
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I think just based on that to you, Corbin, does
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: he get a spot still on this roster by the
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: end of preseason?
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: I think he's going to be on the roster. I
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: don't think Seattle is in give up mode yet there.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: And they like having that emergency quarterback that they can
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: utilize to without him being active, so to speak, they're
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: going to continue to develop him. But it's not been
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: ideal because we've seen him. You've been out in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: practice field for some of these camp practices. I thought
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: he really had turned the corner this training camp, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: it hasn't translated to these two games. It's unfortunate, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: we just haven't seen him play with the decisiveness, the decision-making, weakness, progressions,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: the accuracy. All that stuff has not been there that
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: we have seen consistently on the practice field. So I
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: think he needs every snap on Friday against Kansas City.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't play Drew Locke, and obviously they're going to
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: play Sam Darnold. I would say, look, Jalen, this is
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: your game. We're going to treat this like a regular
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: season game for you. You get all four quarters and
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: see if you can get him going in the right
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: direction there. But I expect he's going to be on
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: the roster.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: No matter what.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Where are you at right now versus roughly a month
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: ago with Nicky Manwari? Does he play in week one?
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: I still think he plays. We'll see what happens here
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: over the next week, but I would be somewhat surprised
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: if he's not out there against the New England Patriots.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith joining us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'll keep you around here for about a few more
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: minutes and then we'll cut you loose, my friend. But
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I want to also get back to some discussion from yesterday.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I know that you chimed in on this on social media.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And I think to me, it really means a lot
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: as far as my core values with college football. Ian
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: spoke to this yesterday. Greg Bell spoke to this heavily yesterday.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: about a couple of hours ago, just on the Anthony
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Hankerson situation. And just it just seems like now the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: transfer portal is basically a meme of itself right now.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And for him, Operation Van Wilder is back underway and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: he's going to college. So, I mean, I'll first get
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to the legal fallout here potentially on this in just
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: a bit. But, you know, for you, scale of one
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: to ten, eleven for me, it's there as far as ridiculousness.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Where are you right now with the transfer portal?
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: Look, if I could go into the hundreds, I would.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: I don't think ridiculous is the right word. I've seen
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: things that are ridiculous, and I'm like, yeah, that could
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: probably be fixed. I see this, and I'm like, although, hey,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: I'll give the Big Ten credit. Big Ten today is
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: trying to pass it in conference that their teams are
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: not allowed to recruit and sign. Guys that jumped into
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: the NFL are now trying to come back to college.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: This would be like a college kid saying, you know what,
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: I'm going back to high school. It's ridiculous. It doesn't
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: even sum it up.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It's Billy Madison stuff, man.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: It's a joke. It's a travesty. And I just keep thinking, well,
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: they can't make college sports any worse. And they just
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: keep finding ways. It's not affordable. I do feel bad
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: for the kids. I know that they get a lot
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: of advantages with this, but, like, you've got to have
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: some structure. There's got to be some structure to this.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: And the only way you're going to be able to
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: do that is with a collective bargaining agreement. The NCAA
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: doesn't want to do it, but guess what? If you don't,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: this is what's going to continue happening all of this season.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: That leads me on to this. Would it surprise you
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: that in 10 years, we speak of the SEC and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten not as a conference for student-athletes, but
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: full-blown minor leagues with a CBA, with a players' union,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: and a feel where it is no longer college football,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: but it is the minor leagues, and you're having rosters
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: just using the college name, the branding, the uniform, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the stadium as all part of the package.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to happen in less than five years,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: is my prediction.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: What about the fallout here?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, you know, to me it's not a
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: matter of if, it's a matter of when. These conferences,
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: those two conferences have already talked about this and there's
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: already been individual schools that have been talking about, well,
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: we're going to privatize our football program. It's coming. You know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: that's the way this is going because the NCAA hasn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: been willing to do something like that themselves. And I just...
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: I think that's where we're headed. We've been complaining all
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: these years about not having a developmental league that would
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: last well. The NCAA and college football, as we know it,
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: that's what we're going to have now. Those schools are
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: going to be that developmental pipeline for real.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Man, you can file that in the sad but true
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: category we've been talking about a bit. I've been talking
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: about stability, something that maybe we haven't seen here in
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: college football, even college basketball, on a smaller degree in college.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: about roughly 10, 15 years, and it just kind of
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: feels like we have hit tip of iceberg status at
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: this point where this is all shaken out here on
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the football scale. Corbin, before I let you go, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: did have someone reach out to me over the Tacoma
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Dodge text line. I will always back up a friend
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: in the business for his apparel choices. You brought the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: suit game to level 100 on Fox, I believe, earlier
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: in this town about a couple days ago, red-colored also.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Where'd you get it, man? It was awesome. It was awesome.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: I just got it off Amazon, to be honest with you.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: Nothing too crazy. I, you know, I'm not the fanciest
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: when it comes to my suit choices, but yeah, You
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: got to be yourself, and I like bright colors, so
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: that's never going to go away.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: You are not the first to tell me that you
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: went there for a suit. Number one, it's the day
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and age that we're living in right now, so why not?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: But number two, I have a broadcast colleague on the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: NHL side who actually purchased a suit from there, but
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: also had the pockets lined with Super Mario Brothers vintage
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: graphic designing on the inside. He was that much of
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: a Nintendo guy growing up, and all I could think
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of was, My Lord, I want one of those now.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I want one of those.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Well, now I'm wanting one of those. I've never customized
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: the pockets, but if I could customize the inside of
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: the pockets, I'll probably have a Critter or a Gremlin
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: from 1980s horror comedy movies.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. We still have time before week one
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: finally hits us in the face, man. Make it happen.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And again, do it for Instagram.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Get my computer open. I've got to get Amazon open
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: right now and see.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: What's out there.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Do it for Instagram. Do it for X. Do it
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: for any of the social media accounts, as the kiddos
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: say here for these days. But, hey, Corbin, appreciate this,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: my man. We'll get you back on soon. Thank you.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Mike.
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: Take care.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Corbin Smith joining us again from Emerald
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: City Spectrum again. Go to X, find his work right there.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Find Emerald City Spectrum also on the interwebs. And great
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: stuff that he shared with us. And I thought, again,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: revealing with where we could be headed with the college
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: sports landscape, especially with football. And I'm going to get
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to that here coming up in just a bit. But again,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith joining us here from Emerald City Spectrum. Are
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: we closer to the deathbed of college football and its roots?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that next here on 93.3 KJR FM.
• 32:23
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• 32:27
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• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Set host of this program is off today. Mayor of
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Maple Valley is doing day-off things, so I'm Mike, filling
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: in for him. Shout-out YouTube followers as well. Thank you
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: for hanging out with us. 49451 Tacoma Dodge text line. Also,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: talkbacks via the iHeartRadio app. While we're at it, by
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the way, big thanks again to Corbin Smith of Emerald
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: City Spectrum for joining us to talk Seahawks, where they're
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: headed here in the final game of the preseason against
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, but also college football. And I'm going to
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: get into this here a little bit more. And while
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: we're at it, because Corbin joined us, a big thank
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: you to also his friend of the show, friend of
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the business, Jim Elliott, Windermere Real Estate, for having Corbin
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: on with us as well on a week-to-week basis. The
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: insight we get from him is invaluable. Earlier this morning,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten set to pass a rule that would
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: prevent players from returning to the NFL to play for
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: a Big Ten school. And this set off a firestorm
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of reaction just hours ago, because any player who has
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: declared for the NFL draft and did not withdraw, appeared
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: on an NFL roster, or signed a contract with a
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: pro league, will not be eligible to join a Big
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Ten roster. And there are so many ways we can
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: go with this here. And this is, again, what I
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: think is turning into maybe a solution that, yes, works
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in the vacuum, but there's also something called legal fallout,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: which could easily play out here from this, not just
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: in the next few weeks, Travis, but also in years.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Because what happens if there's a lawsuit filed? This is
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: going to get tied up in the courts for a long,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: long time. Not only that, But you also ask, well,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: what kind of pressure does this put on the SEC?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: They're talking about this as well. What does this put
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: on the ACC for those schools? Are they going to
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: be pressured here to follow suit? So the SEC is saying, hey,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: we're cool with this. We want to do this. And then,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: you know, you talk about the poster child of trying
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to find loophole after loophole after loophole in LSU. And
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: guess who's running the show at LSU? Lane Kiffin. First
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: name Lane, last name Kiffin. There was one report that
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: suggested that he portrayed LSU as kind of like an
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: innocent bystander amongst a wider movement and maybe taken, I think,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: a bit of a grandstanding approach here for this. A report, though,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: from CBS Sports today suggested LSU proactively recruited multiple LSU
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: multiple NFL hopefuls to sue the NCAA in hopes of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: winning a right to return to college football if and
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: when they were cut from NFL training camp. Does it
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: all make sense now to you? 49451. I'm just teeing
• 35:43
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• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Because right now, I mean, it just seems like as if,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: you know, we're putting this rule out there, if I'm
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: speaking for the Big Ten or the SEC, that we're
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: making progress at 75 miles an hour, but yet we
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: could be on a 100 mile an hour course going
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: right back here to the courtroom. Corbin pointed this out
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: a few minutes ago, and there's just too much chaos
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: and too much lane changing here as far as where
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: we're headed in college football, all because of the transfer
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: portal and the Anthony Hankerson situation is only one of
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: several examples of this and could be one of more
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: several examples coming down the road. You are no longer
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: looking at college football as a protected amateur sport. And
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to some degree, I agree with Corbin Travis, too much chaos, Ezra,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I think really begin to strip college football of its identity.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: If I can go further with this. It's not like
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the way it was about 20, 25 years ago. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: wish it was. It's not. I loved Ian pointing this
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: out the other day. His example was going to school
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: at Washington State and getting a chance to sit in
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the classroom with a guy who just ripped off five
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: tackles in a game previously or a guy who ran
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: for 100 yards, the QB who threw for over 300,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: four touchdowns as well. On a smaller scale, I had
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that going to an NAI school at Azusa Pacific. Game
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: has changed for them. I'm not going to get into
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: that here. But there's that feeling of camaraderie and of
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: community that you had that you no longer have and
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: will no longer have. Because for me, with Corbin Smith
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and what he talked about, 10 years down the road,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: you're looking at the SEC and the Big Ten maybe
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: breaking away from the NCAA and establishing their own rules.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: They're effectively ripping out the Band-Aid here from this and
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: they're saying, all right, we're done pretending. We're done pretending
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: this is college football. This is just another offshoot of
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the pros. And we're using the college name, the college branding,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the college stadium. Here's your roster. Go enjoy the game
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: for three and a half hours.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Well, we went from players having very little say in
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: where they go and what they can do and not
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: making any money. To now making more money in college
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: than they would in the NFL, which I can't blame
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: these players from going back to college. And being able
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: to transfer left and right, go to schools here and there,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: and then play for six, seven, eight seasons. We've swung
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: too far in the opposite direction. We need a middle ground.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know how that happens, but we need a
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: middle ground.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And you're going to see every fight from every school
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of every big nature here if you're looking to keep
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: this within the NCAA boundaries. LSU example exhibit A. Example
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: number one here. I love reading a tweet last night.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: It said, quote, you need a paramilitary force to protect
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: college football from Lane Kiffin. End quote. But it's an
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: example here of coaches who are, they don't care. They
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: really don't care. Their one sole job is to fill
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: out a roster that gives them the biggest competitive advantage.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: And this is what LSU's after. This is what Lane
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Kiffin's after. They're exposing a massive loophole in all of this.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: But it's going to continue going down that direction. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: here's one thing that I think that this has got
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to be considered. Not just of where the Big Ten,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: the SEC could be 10 years down the road, where
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: is it going to force the ACC as far as
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: who's in their conference and who's not in about 10 years?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Greg pointed this out. What about other small schools as well?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Pac-12, what about them? The NAI, what
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: about them? Heck, I'll go there and say Division III
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: for me. What about them? There's going to be a
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: lot of movement here just because of where we're at
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and how this thing is moving at about 85 miles
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: an hour per Because of college football and where they're
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: at right now with the transfer portals. So 49451 Tacoma
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Dosh text line. You tell me where we're going to
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: be at, say, five to ten years down the road.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: What are Huskies games? What are Oregon Ducks games going
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: to be looking like from that stage?
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: One more time.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: 49451.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: We got more to come here. We'll get to the Mariners. Tonight,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Game 2 of a massive series against the Phillies. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: how far did they go with answering long-term questions about
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: their viability here in this playoff race? And could there
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: be any landmines here, maybe, in the schedule that we're
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: not thinking of? They have the easiest schedule in baseball,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: but are you on the lookout for any landmines? We'll
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: get to that in just a bit. Much more to
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: come right here. Mike Benton in for Ian on 93.3 KJRFM. Now,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: from the Star Runnels.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR FM Sports Headlines.
• 40:45
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• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Cal Raleigh. Breakout night in historical proportions. Three homers last evening.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: That helped the Mariners put up eight runs on Zach
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Wheeler against Red Hot Phillies. Julio went deep. Cole Young
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: went deep. Logan Gilbert good enough in five innings of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: two-run ball. And the Mariners Routing, Philadelphia 9-2. George Kirby,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Aaron Nola, come on down. They take the mound in
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Game 2 of the series tonight at T-Mobile Park. Bad
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: news here for Colt Emerson, their rookie shortstop. Season-ending surgery
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: on the menu for him on Wednesday to repair a
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: partially dislocated tendon in his left wrist, yet expected to
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: be ready for the start of this next season. That's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: according to Mariners GM Justin Hollander. Emerson has been bothered,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: of course, by the injury ever since spring training. Seahawks
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: are back home from Nashville. Quick turnaround for them. Before that,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: practicing in Renton today. Tomorrow, Thursday, they'll fly to KC
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: and face the Chiefs in the preseason finale on Friday.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: No starters in that game. Jadarian Price also will not
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: play in that game. So if you want depth, you
• 42:03
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• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Sounders FC acquiring forward Dayan Yuvalich from Sporting KC in
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: exchange for $ 6 million in cash. He brings much-needed firepower
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to the Sounders, 107 career goals in all competitions, three
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: league titles over 11 pro seasons. That's spanning Europe and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: the U.S. Ian's out for the day. Mike Benton filling
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: in for him. Game two of the Mariners series coming
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: up tonight against Philadelphia. That, by the way, also a
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: great chance to remind you. Two o'clock, Gary Hill Jr.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: from the Mariners radio broadcast booth will be along with
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: us as well. Four, nine, four, five, one. That's where
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: you chime in to Coma Dodge text line and tell
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: us after that route last night. where the Phillies laid
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a stinker and the Mariners rubbed their faces in it.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: How much are you convinced that this is the Mariners' long-term,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: late August and into September, or is this just a
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: mirage again?
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: 49451 on.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: The Tacoma Dodge text line. George Kirby and Aaron Nola
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: will go after it here for tonight on the mound.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: That gives us a chance to see kind of dissect
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: of where this game means here for tonight, because Kirby's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: been a bit of a power keg. I love the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Bulldog mentality and what he brings on the mound. I mean,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: to be honest, I saw it heading into the postseason
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: last year. I love the call to start him in
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: game one of the ALDS, have him go on the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: mound for game seven as well. But his last five starts,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, this has just been like a microcosm here
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: of inconsistency, Travis. His last five starts, six earned runs,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: five earned runs, one earned run, zero earned runs, seven
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: earned runs. You want your roller coaster? You got your
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: roller coaster. Last five starts, nine hits, eight hits, four hits,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: five hits, seven hits. And the only game where he
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: really shoved was against the Twins right back on August 2nd.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: So helpful, yeah, you get that from George Kirby, but
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: consistency has been a massive issue, and he's got a
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: big challenge tonight against a guy who's kind of turning
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: it around now In Aaron Nola for Philadelphia.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Guess which games he gave up six earned runs, five
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: earned runs, seven earned runs.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Those were on the road.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: He gave up one earned run, zero earned runs, zero
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: earned runs his last three home games.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: So..
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we get... Isn't that another Brian Wu comparison?
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: It feels like Brian Wu 2.0 with George Kirby. But again,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: with George Kirby, I think for me, you've got the
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: bulldog mentality. He knows how to locate. But again, the strikeouts,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: the lack thereof, you're in strikeouts, and they've gone down
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: over the years. That, to me, is one of the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: biggest concerns heading into August, heading into September, is finding
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: a put-away pitch.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Because he's so good at command. He is so good
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: with control. He's proven that over the years. But the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: put-away pitch is so critical. And against this Phillies lineup,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: that's got Kyle Schwarber. That's got Alec Boehm. That's got
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Bryce Harper. That's got JT Real Muto. You saw what
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: he did last night as well, despite swinging a bit
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of an inconsistent bat this season.
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: Oh, boy.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Locate your pitches. Locate your pitches. The thing is for
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: the Mariners, once they get past this Philadelphia series, this
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: is where you can begin to look at the schedule
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: getting a lot lighter. And we use a traffic comparison
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: about roughly an hour ago. Well, you're almost right out
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: of that I-5 gridlock and you're almost hitting cruise control
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: once you get past this Philly series. And then what
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: is up next here for on the road, which is
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Toronto and which is also Boston. The big question is,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Can the Mariners actually level up with their competition and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: not level down to what they are playing against? Because
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: we said the same thing. I remember doing this right
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: back in July when I was in the studio. Coming
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: out of the All-Star break, you had San Francisco playing.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: You had Cincinnati on that schedule where we were right
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: in the middle of, oh, big home run for Cole Young. Spark,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it's here.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: It's coming.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Here's your turnaround.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, Cal Raleigh.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Big bomb into the second deck. There's your spark.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: Nope.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Ever since then from the all-star break, this baseball team's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: record has Travis is 13-19. That should get you buried
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: at this time of year in Major League Baseball. But
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: this is a season unlike any other because the Astros
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: have been, to quote a good friend of our program
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: on Mondays, 10 pounds of crap in a 5-pound bag.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Texas as well. The Astros' record since the All-Star break,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: only 18-15. The Rangers record, 17-19. You're getting every door
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: possible open right now to just blow through this thing.
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And you got through Texas. You got through the Dodgers.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: You got through the Twins, the Tigers, Tampa Bay, which
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: was a stinker. The Yankees series, which was a stinker.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: The Brewers series, which had plenty of stinkers. And then
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: you finally find a rebound with the Cubs and the
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Phillies here. So this is a game of survival right
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: now in the American League. And to be quite honest,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: if you were to ask me to predict what's going
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: to happen here in this American League West one month
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: down the road, it's a fool's errand. Because it feels
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: like you have better chances of guessing right if you
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: were to go on the prices right and spin the
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: wheel and guess where you're landing on. That's what it
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: feels like right now in this AL West race. It
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: has been absolutely horrific, but yet it has still given
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: the Mariners a chance. It's still anybody's game. So after
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: last night against the Phillies, where are you at right now?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Do you see promise or do you see a mirage 49451?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Are there remaining landmines here on this schedule after you
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: get past the The Red Sox and Toronto. I don't
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: want to overlook Toronto. Yes, they're out of the playoff picture,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: but they're 13-9 since August 1. The Red Sox, their turnaround,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: it's gone national as far as the headlines. 14-8 since
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: August 1. What you have right now at home, you
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: have the A's. You have Texas. You have the Astros,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: which the Mariners have owned this season. As Cal Raleigh said,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Always good when the Astros lose. They get two more
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: times here to do it to them here in this ballpark,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: in this city, this next month. And then you have
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the Angels on the road. Your massive climb uphill is
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: at maybe a solid five miles an hour. I kid
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: because it is just the A's, the Angels and the Rockies.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: The Mariners have a winning record against everybody after this
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: next road trip against Toronto and against the Red Sox.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I can't predict where the A's will be at that point, maybe.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I can't predict where the Astros may be at this
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: point because they've already shaken things up with their GM
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: out and their manager, which they have told hit the
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: road jack at the end of the season. They may
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: be playing a different brand of baseball with their mentality
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: coming up in September. That I can't predict. But with
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: the easiest schedule right now in baseball, this team has
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: been given every pathway to say or to be told,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: last two months doesn't matter. You've got to win these games.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: So maybe the only potential landmine I see in this
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: schedule might be those two games with Houston because the
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: stakes get higher. But yet, everything is being laid out
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: right now for this team to cruise right past the Astros,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: right past the Rangers into an American League West title
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: despite how bad they've been with the rest right now
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: at 63-69.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: And not only that, the Astros face the Yankees, White Sox, D-backs, Phillies, Rays,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: and Braves the rest of the way.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: That's 19 games against opponents over 500. Go back to
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that over again. The Yankees, White Sox, D-backs, Phillies, Rays, Braves.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: So that's 19 games against opponents over 500. 1, 2.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: 3, 4, 5, 6.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: That's what I counted.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: The Rangers..
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Play the Rays, the Red Sox, D-backs, Brewers, and then
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: two more games against the White Sox. And that's 15
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: games against opponents over 500. Four opponents.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, that again, for as bad as this American
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: League West has been, Texas' record 17-19. You want to
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: level up against the Rays and the Red Sox and
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: the Brewers at this time of year?
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Good luck.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Things are shaping up for the Mariners.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Good luck.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: They got to take advantage. And what I mean by
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: taking advantage is, number one, preserve your health. Number two,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Cal Raleigh. I'm not asking for three home runs a night.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: But what I am asking for is a catcher who
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: can show up at the plate and maybe hit. 250 or. 260.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Imagine that. Imagine that. And he's been the worst hitter
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: in baseball this season, one of the worst hitters by
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: historical proportions. Can you just show up and hit. 250 or. 260?
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: The power game will come. Just put the ball in
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: play and put it into the gap if you can.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Generate something. Where is Julio's mind going to be over
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: this last month? There's really a tale of two stories here, Travis.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: We saw No. 1, a player... Who was throwing a
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: baseball into the stands. Not once, but twice under different conditions.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: One was just bad optics. The other, well, actually, I
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: shouldn't say just bad optics. One, it cost them a run.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Number two, the other side, it cost them an ABS
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: ball versus balls and strikes. But on the other side,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: don't forget you've got a center fielder in Julio where
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: if you challenge how much does he care, do you
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: remember what the clubhouse sounded like after Game 7 last
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: year in Toronto and what his primal screams of frustration
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: sounded like? You can't tell me that's a player who
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: does not care. Can he get his mind and gear in-game?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: That's a more appropriate question, I think. But late August
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: and September... This is what being a professional is all about.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: You would assume, and I would hope that you assume,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: that this is not even a question here with him.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: You would hope.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, he has shown us in the past that
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: he can be that guy. Let's see if he can
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: do it right now when the team needs it the most.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: And the ALS is really the best path here for
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: this team to get into the playoffs because we're talking
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: about wildcard. I mean, you're jumping several teams right now
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: with having to get into one of those kind of spots.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, hey, you're not going to overtake the Yankees
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: you're not going to overtake the Red Sox at six
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and a half ups I mean you have to look
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: at right now if you get a wild card you
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: have to leapfrog the Orioles the Blue Jays the Twins
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Astros and the Guardians so it really is American League
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Western Buster for this baseball team where the Rangers and
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: the Astros sit as of right now three to two
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: and a half games ahead and That would put the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Mariners likely in an AL wildcard showdown, maybe at home
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: as of right now. And this could change a lot,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: but at home with the Cleveland Guardians. And the question bears,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: do you have enough to square off with them for
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: three games head-to-head here at T-Mobile Park? So you tell us,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: you optimistic, or is this just a mirage after last night, 4-9-4-5-1,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Tacoma Dodge text line. Because baseball season is into the
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: stretch drive, it means hockey season is not too far away.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: And we have some developments here on this Kraken roster
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: that Jason Botterill, the Kraken GM, maybe pulled the curtain
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: back a little bit on to give us a sense
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: of who might be making this team, but also potentially expectations.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Who better to talk about this than Everett Fitzhugh, my partner,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: one of many here on this broadcast team on the
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Kraken side. He joins us coming up in just a
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: bit right here on 93.3 KJR FM. Now back to
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken, and
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: the 12th man. Brought to you by Seattle's closest Snoqualmie
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Casino and Hotel on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Let
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the music breathe. Let the music breathe. We haven't hit
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: the point yet where we're there, but we're getting awfully,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: awfully close. Because that music only tells us one thing.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: The NHL season is right around the corner. In about
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: a month from now, we are going to be neck
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: deep into preseason games. And before that, training camp time
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: for the Seattle Kraken. Mike Benton in for the mayor today.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness is off. Who better then to bring on
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: to talk about all of this than one of my
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: partners in crime on the Kraken Audio Network. That is
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: the great Everett Fitzhugh joining us right now on the
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Beacon Plumbing Hotline because we have a fresh batch of
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: things to get to on this team. Everett, my man,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: it's been a while.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: How are you? How was vacation time? How was family time?
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  Speaker 7: Oh mikey doing well and you know before we go
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: any further i know you're doing ian a massive favor
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: by filling in today so we got to get that
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: we got to get that rejoiner updated but it has
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: to be like an obvious edit so it's.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Like no back to mike.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: You know what i mean like you gotta make it
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: super obvious and uh no things are doing well man
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: i'm actually standing here in leavenworth right now not as
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: uh Not as smoky or as hazy as it was
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago, but heading back tomorrow, and
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: then the real fun begins. But it's been good to
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: get away for a little bit.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: A lot of travel time the last month or so.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: The real question is, with you being a dad, I
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: can relate. How's the kid enjoying it?
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, he loves it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: We actually just got out of the pool, the community
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: pool here.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Our Airbnb is right on the river, so we've gone
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: out on the river a little bit.
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: I mean, but we're with one of his friends and
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: she's four as well. And she's all into Frozen and princesses.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: So to her, we are in the middle of Arendelle
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: right now. So she keeps saying, we're going to go
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: tour Arendelle. We're going to go tour Arendelle. So, yeah,
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: we're down here in Arendelle, apparently, which is also Leavenworth.
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: But he loves it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Wes loves it.
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: He's been stuffing his face with pretzels and sausages and
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: ice cream for the last two days.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: So he's fattened up.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: You have now brought a challenge and an idea to
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: my mind. For the next podcast that we do for
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: the Kraken Audio Network, we are going to say officially
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: goodbye to the off-season with your version of Elsa's.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Let It Go. I'm going there.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going there. Hey, you were the show choir guy
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: anyway growing up, right? You can do this.
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: I was.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: I was.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Don't listen. I've been known to carry a tune. I've
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: been known to carry a tune, so. I don't have
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of shame either.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Me, I'm just better at. I was recruited at one
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: point in high school to join the show choir, and
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: I said, eh, I'm better off playing the radio. Everett Fitz,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: you're joining us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: And I wanted to bring you on here for today, Fitz,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: because this is fresh off a batch of things that
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: we can get to. And I think GM Jason Botter
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: will kind of peel back the curtain a little bit
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: on the dynamic and the construction of this roster, which
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: has really been as opaque as mud here for the
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: last couple of months. But before I get there, I
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: just want to kind of lean us here into this
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: point on August 25th. You talk about the buildup of
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: getting Bobby McMahon back in town, and we heard for
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: a week. So he's going back to the Leafs, future Avalanche,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: future Ranger, future whatever you want, fill in the blank.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: He openly chose Seattle and did so for a reason.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Mackie Samuskevich is here. You get some muscle in at
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: the front door in Curtis Douglas. You get some old
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: contracts as well out the door. So to you at
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: this point, go ahead and summarize the offseason.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think overall, I would consider it
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: a success.
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: Obviously, you don't have the big fish that you wanted
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: to to bring in, but it's not as if you
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: didn't go big fish hunting. You offered a massive contract
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: to Jason Robertson. You go back to the trade deadline.
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: You offered a massive extension for Artemi Panarin as well,
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: and it didn't work out. And I think a lot
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: of folks get caught up in the term of, well,
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: the Kraken didn't bring in the free agent, so that
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: means they weren't aggressive. In my mind, for me, I
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: think that aggression is the act of trying to to land.
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, the end product, yes, obviously you want that
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: end product, but at the end of the day, Jason
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: Boshrill went out and said, listen, we are willing to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: put up eight by 15 for Jason Robertson. We are
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: willing to put up whatever the, I think it was what, 10,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: 12 for a three-year extension for Artemi Panarin. At the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: end of the day, Panarin only wanted to go to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: the LA Kings.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do about it. At the end
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: of the day, the Ottawa Senators and the St.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: Louis Blues also offered very lucrative contracts to Jason Robertson,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: and he turned them both down as well. So, I mean,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: you can't fault Jason for trying, Jason Bottrell for trying.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: I do think that if you go back to his
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: words earlier this summer, the big thing.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Is he wants there to be some growth and development.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: He wants to see what.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: We have in these prospects, and he's not going to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: make a move for the sake of making a move.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: There are some rfa or some ufas right now that
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: haven't been signed but you could go out there and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: make a panic move but you're not doing your team
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: a service by doing that it has to be the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: right uh player i know yesterday he came out and
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: said we could see upwards of seven eight under 23
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: forwards in that opening lineup and i think that's going
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: to be good for the future of this team we've
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: talked for the last four years of this cracking experience
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: experience that, you know, the kids are coming.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: We have a lot of prospects. We have a.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: Top five, top seven prospect pool, depending on what expert
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: you read, what article you read. Well, now it's time
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: to see what you have in those prospects.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 7: For me, you bring in a player like Bobby McMahon,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: who wants to be here. Mackie Samuskevich, who was playing
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: behind some very strong players in Florida. Now he has
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: an opportunity to showcase the speed and his willingness to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: get to the net that he's known for. He's coming
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: off of back-to-back career high seasons, 30-plus points. each of
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: his last two years. What can he do now in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: a bona fide top six role? And now you bring
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: in Curtis Douglas. This team has lacked some grit. They've
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: lacked some sandpaper historically. And now you bring in a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: guy that's going to be able to add some of that.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: So I like the moves. Obviously, I think he would
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: have liked to have gotten that big offensive piece. But
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: at the end of the day, there's still time. You
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: never know what could flush out between now and the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: start of the season, now and November 1st. But for
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: where this team is right now, I don't mind the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: direction that this team is going in.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: And I'll get to those names as far as the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: seven and eight that we could maybe speculate on as
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Everett Fitz, you're joining us again right now with the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Beacon Plumbing Hotline. But I did want to get to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: kind of the fallout where you take a swing, it's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: one thing, but yet you fail to land that big
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: fish that you potentially wanted. And we saw this, as
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: you mentioned, with Artemi Panarin and also jason robertson and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: there was just a different and i thought unfair can
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: of worms attached to that latter situation here but when
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: you look at how young that you want to go
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: on this roster and the fact that the conversation has
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: been out there for so long about where do you
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: have a one c coming here on this team without
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: putting yourself in jason botterill's office and speaking for the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: gm here on this i think the way i want
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: to phrase it is this Does conventional wisdom suggest that
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: this changes maybe how this team could operate, maybe in
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: free agency land or trade land? And how fair is
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: that to you?
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  Speaker 3: I think it does for a couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at the teams that have
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: won the Stanley Cup in the last 10 years, most
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: of them, with the exception of Vegas and maybe one
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: that I'm not remembering right now, but most of them
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: have been built internally.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: They've been built through the draft. They've been built through.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: Signing, you know, undrafted free agents and growing their prospect
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: pool very rarely. I mean, there are no more Yankees
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: of the nineties where you can just go and buy
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: everybody and, and, and win championships. If you want to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: have sustained success, if you want to have some longevity and,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 7: You know, you want to make the playoffs.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: You look at the Capitals and the Pittsburgh Penguins.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: Obviously, they have Ovechkin and Crosby, but this is a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: team that those teams developed internally. They've made the playoffs, what,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: 16 of the last 20-some-odd years? That's what you want.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: The Colorado Avalanche, they've grown internally. Dallas, they've grown internally.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: And these are teams that are perennial playoff teams. They
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: are teams that routinely are getting into the second, third round,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: the finals, winning championships, things like that. That's where you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: want to be. And it's very rare to be able
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: to buy your way into that. But I also think
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: that with Jason Bottrell, he wants to do both. I mean,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: why not have both? Why not be able to have
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: a team that you've grown? You've developed a Berkley Catton
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: and a Matty Beneers. Then you're going to have Chase Reed.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: You've got Jacob Melanson and Ryan Winterton. The list goes
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: on and on. Shane Wright could even be in that list.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: I know his name has been thrown around a lot
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: this last couple of years as well, but then also
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: why can't you do what Dallas did and go out
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: and get Amico rants in it? Why can't you go
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: out and do what the Colorado did and go out
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: and get Brock Nelson to help push them.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Over the edge, right? You can do both.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: You, you can have your cake and eat it too,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: but I think the bulk of your success has to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: come from the players themselves. that were grown in-house, that
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: understand what you want, that were drafted in your image
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: and in your vision of this team.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Again, Jason Botterill's words to Kevin Woodley of NHL.com last
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: night said, quote, there's a possibility we could have seven
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: or eight forwards, 23 and under on opening night, end quote.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: You threw a few names out there to me, and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I think to me they make sense. And I'll just
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, go down the list as far
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: as maybe who we're looking at. You know, coming up
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: at about roughly a month from now, there's Matty Beneers.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: There's Mackie Samaskevich. Jacob Melanson makes three. Ryan Winterton makes four.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Berkley Catton, five. Oscar Fisker-Molgaard, six. Yanni Newman, seven. And
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: depending on where this goes, and you hinted at this,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: maybe Shane Wright makes eight. My goodness, how much of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: a plot twist that would be after the news cycle
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: that spun wildly about roughly two months ago. So I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: think ultimately where I want to get at here, Fitz,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: is when you look at a crop this young, where
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Matty Beniris has firmly established, in my opinion, himself as
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: a solid number two center in the NHL, where you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: feel one C from there, where do these guys play,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: factoring in that you've still got guys like Chandler Stevenson
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: and Jared McCann here to consider?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think, listen, again, Jason has said
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: from day.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: One, he does not want to get in the way
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: of the growth and development of these younger players. So
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: I'll use Berkeley Catton as an example, and this is
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: just one broadcaster's opinion. Last season, we saw him on
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: a consistent basis get better. He made a lot smarter decisions.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: Every game, he did something that left you, me, Al,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: other folks in the press box saying, yep, this kid
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: is ready for bigger minutes. He rarely made the same
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: mistake twice, and if he did, he didn't make it
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: a third time. That's the kind of player that a
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: Berkley Catton, I think, could be with more confidence, another
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: summer under his belt. If you want to put him
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: and try him out, if you see him as a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: potential franchise player, why not try Berkley Catton at the
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: first line center to start preseason, to start the year.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Who knows, right?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, Matty Beneers is going to be, I think,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 7: your number one center moving forward, de facto number one center,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 7: but why not try it? He's also looked good on
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: the wing as well. I think a player like Ryan Winterton,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: when you lose a Jayden Schwartz, that power forward type
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: of player, you haven't re-signed Ellie Tolvanen. He's still a
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 7: free agent out there, and hey, who knows what deals
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: are lurking for him, either in Seattle or elsewhere, but
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: Ryan Winterton can slide up the lineup to a second
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: line role and get some top six minutes to be
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: put in a power play position and see what he
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 7: could do there.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I remember, you know, talking to a few.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: Folks internally that they thought Ryan Winterton could be a
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 7: Jaden Schwartz type of player, that power forward that can
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: get to the net, get some greasy goals for you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: and work hard in a top six role. So let's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: give him some more opportunity. So those are two players
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: that I think can take a big step this year.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: jacob melanson i love his game you know i think
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: he's really calmed down a little bit he he's he's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: sometimes having to find himself being the only muscle on
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 7: the roster but i think curtis douglas adds a little
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: bit more to that take some pressure off him and
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: then in kevin woodley's piece you talked about uh yesterday
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: when he said now the players are one more year
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: and they know lane lambert they know the coaching style
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: they know what his expectations are so now you don't
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: have to spend the first month of the season essentially
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 7: as an extended training camp trying to get to know
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: what your coach expects.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Folks also may be asking, well, what about Jake O'Brien?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Because it's pretty clear-cut he will be a pro this
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: next season with the expanded rules and him being 19
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: years of age. But he'll be either with this team
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: or the American Hockey League. And it looks like that
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: the AHL with Coachella Valley is perhaps a preferred destination
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: unless he just unexpectedly blows everyone's doors down coming up
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: here in training camp. But how long would it take
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: for him... under realistic terms, to earn a call-up here
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: to the NHL? And where do those expectations lie for
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Jake O'Brien?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, a lot of factors go into it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to use last year as an example.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: I don't think anybody expected in September, Berkeley Cat and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: the Bee here all season. But when you have the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: amount of injuries the Kraken had last year, Seattle did
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: not have a full complement, a fully healthy lineup of
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 7: until game 54 last season. So, I mean, you were
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 7: well into February before you had your whole team healthy again,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: and as a result, Berkeley Caton, I think, got thrust
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: into the fire maybe a little bit early than they
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: would have wanted. Hopefully, you don't have that with Jake O'Brien.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: I think in a perfect world, Jake.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: O'Brien spends the entire year down in Coachella Valley.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: He gets used to playing against men, faster competition, professional competition,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 7: and then maybe at the end of the season, depending
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: on where Seattle is, he's earned an opportunity in those
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: last five, 10 games, uh, to get some NHL time.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: But I think for, for.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: O'Brien, he plays a year, he's in your top five,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: hopefully in scoring down in the American hockey league. And
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: then he's penciled into a roster spot next fall.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Coming in the 27, 28.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: And I think The expectations on him are to do
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: exactly what he's been doing in the Ontario Hockey League.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: He's an offensive player. He is going to be one
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: of those players you throw in with a birthday cat
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: and a Matty Bonier is a guy that you're expecting
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 7: to get 70 plus points out.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: Of in a consistent basis.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: You're expecting to get 35 plus goals consistently from a
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: player like that.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I go back to that homegrown talent, right?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: Those are the type of players, all the superstars, the McKinnons,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: the Kucherovs, the McDavids of the world, right? Those players
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: are drafted. Those rarely are those players traded for. Rarely
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: are those players acquired via free agency.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: It does happen.
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  Speaker 7: But those are the type of players that you need
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: to grow in-house and you need to have locked up
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: for a long time. And Jake O'Brien, I think, firmly
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: falls into that category. but I'd give him a year
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 7: in CV to get his foot, his feet under him,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: get some professional games under him, let him, let him sink,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 7: let him swim, let him fail, let him recover. And
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: then coming next, next fall, he's penciled into a lineup
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: on the NHL roster.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a center-picked eighth overall for a reason, where
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: if that 1C spot is open, he's going to get
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: every chance to try to seize that 1C when he
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: is ready. And maybe the question for me at 6'2,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: and you turn that weight that's listed at 174 to
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: maybe a 190 or above, because you're playing against some
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: beefy competition in the NHL. And hey, I think the
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: same goes here for Chase Reed maybe as well, who
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: was picked No.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: 7 overall.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: And with his skill set, 6'3, defenseman, many are saying potential,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: McCarr type of qualities in him, Zach Wierenski, that experience
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: he'll get this next year in Michigan State is going
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: to be so big. But again, put the beef on, certainly.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Fitz, when you have someone
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: walk down the street, cross and pass with you, ask
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: about this roster, ask about the fallout from this last season,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: and then... With the season a little over a month away,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: how do you define the expectations here for the postseason
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Everett go? I think we lost Everett. You there? Oh,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I think we lost Everett. Right as we get into
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: the crescendo of all of this. The climax.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Let's try to get him back here on the line, Travis.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you. But Everett Fitz, you're joining us again here
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: for the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. I hope that Leavenworth didn't
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: knock him out as far as cell phone reception. But
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I think many of you can certainly relate to that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: kind of experience and going through the mountains, the trees,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: and you sometimes just have– sell quality dropping out. And
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: if we got him here, I think we do. I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: know that you didn't ditch me here for the climax
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: of this conversation, but I'll, I'll go back and rephrase
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: it once again, again, before I let you go, say
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: you cross somebody down the street, meet them hockey fan.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: They're getting past what was a year where they miss
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: the playoffs here for the fourth time in five seasons.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: They've got questions on this roster, the overturn. It appears
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: to lean toward youth. When they ask, how do you
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: define the expectations when you bring in the word playoffs, Everett,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: your answer, go ahead.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: My answer would be last season, the Seattle Kraken were
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 7: in a playoff spot until roughly game 70, 75, right?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 7: Coming into the year, my number one goal for this
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 7: team was to be playing meaningful games after the deadline
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: into March. I think this year, now you have to
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 7: win those meaningful games. Yes, Seattle didn't make the playoffs
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 7: last But for all intents and purposes, they played playoff
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: hockey for three-fourths of the season. You just have to
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: bring it home. The roster, again, largely is unchanged. I
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: know you lose Schwartz. I know that you lose Jamie Oleksiak.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: But again, you've got a lot of players, I think,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: that can fill those voids. So there wasn't a large
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: turnover on this roster. The division isn't necessarily a world-beating
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: division necessarily. I mean, Edmonton is still going to be Edmonton. Calgary,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: they're down. Vancouver is down. I think Anaheim, they may
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 7: have made a few missteps. I thought they were going
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 7: to be very promising moving forward, but I think they're
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: in a little bit of trouble.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: There will be no Christmas cards going from Anaheim to Philadelphia.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 7: But, you know, L.A., I think they're in trouble. How
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: long can Vegas continue to Vegas their way? into every postseason, right?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: The bill's going to have to come collect here pretty soon.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: And I think for Seattle, the playoffs is not a
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 7: question that is out of the realm of possibility. I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 7: think this team can be a wildcard team. I mean,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: this team last year at one point was three points
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: out of first place in the division last as late
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: as February. So I do think that there needs to
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 7: be some changes just in terms of, you know, this team,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: they have to score more goals. You have to find
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 7: a way. I know you didn't do a whole lot
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 7: in terms of getting that goal score this summer. That's fine.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 7: Every team's got excuses. Your power play has got to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: get better. Your PK has got to get better. Defensively,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 7: you were fine, but you can always improve there. But
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: I do think that this team can make the playoff,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: but it's not going to be an easy road. But
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 7: I do think that a lot of the flack that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 7: the Kraken are getting, I don't feel a lot of
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 7: it is fair. A lot of folks are comparing this
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: team to some of the worst teams in the history
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: of the NHL. And you forget they were in a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: playoff spot until roughly March 25th, I want to say,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: maybe even into April, early April, when they were officially eliminated.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: They had a bad run down the stretch, 1-8 and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: 2 out of the trade deadline, out of the Olympic break.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: That's going to do it for you. So for Seattle,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: avoid the downfall, avoid the pitfalls. But the way that
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: they played last year, there's no reason to believe that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: this team cannot challenge Seattle. for a playoff spot. They
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: have to win those games down the stretch, and we
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: could be sitting here in April talking about a first-round matchup.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Well, you, me, a microphone, Al Koniski, good times. Not
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: going to be too far away, my man, but in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: the meantime, enjoy Leavenworth and the height of the family, man.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 7: All right, I'm going back to my sausage.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: I'll see you later.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Jump right back into it. Great to talk to you.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Everett Fitz, you're here in the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. We'll
• 1:17:10
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• 1:17:12
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  Speaker 2: With the mayor out today, Mike in for Ian, and
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: a big thanks once again to Everett Fitzhugh joining us
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: here from the reaches of Leavenworth. He is diving right
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: back into that sausage. Why am I hungry again? All
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: of a sudden? I had lunch about three hours ago.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: All the bratwurst talk. Onions, peppers. Sauerkraut? Sauerkraut, yeah. I'm
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: not that big of a sauerkraut fan. I've kind of
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: turned the corner with sauerkraut because of pastrami. throw that
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: right in with some Swiss cheese, some marble rye bread
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: on the grill or the Blackstone, whatever suits your fancy.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: What kind of mustard do you like? Dijon. I like spicy.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: I don't do plain mustard. It doesn't do much for me.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: My only use for plain mustard is if I use
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: a big slab of meat, I'm talking brisket, ribs, whatever,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: you want to kind of slather it up before it
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: goes on the grill. But yeah, I want some spice.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Not even like a hot dog? Hot dog? Hot dog,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: yellow mustard?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: Nah.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Nah, I'm way too complicated. That's just me and how
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: I'm wired. A big Seattle dog guy. Big Seattle dog.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Cream cheese, onions, you name it. I'll throw the Kraken
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: out there as far as how they do it world
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: class with the press food. Sometimes if you're there on
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: the right night, they have a spread at the very
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: top of the press gondola that serves a build-your-own Seattle
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: dog bar. Thank you. Good night. Sausages, cream cheese, onions.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: The whole thing. Do they have the preview day yet?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: The food preview day? Coming up in about a month. Okay.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: In a month?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Coming up in about a month. I think mid-September, if
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. That's exciting, though. We're going to have
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of food rolled out, and I will plan
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: to eat and consume nothing but a protein shake for breakfast.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Just kind of keep the gut ready. Big thanks again
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: to Everett Fitzhugh. Very quick, we had a great chat again.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: That's going to be up on the Ian Furness Show
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: via the iHeartRadio app. But again, 49451 Tacoma Dodge Text Line.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: Where do your expectations lie with a hockey team that
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: maybe some of you have said has got to lean young,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: but as Jason Botterill said, potentially seven to eight forwards
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: at 23 years of age or younger on opening night
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: for this team. That could be the reality you are
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: looking at. What's your expectation for 9-4-5-1? Shane Wright, that
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: thing has not been solved just yet. It is still
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: a thing, and he could very much well be in
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: the mix when training camp opens up this next month.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: So remember I go back to Philip Grubauer about a
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: year ago, and we were talking about his numbers, where
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: his game was at, maybe his career was at, and
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: he had a great turnaround season. One thing that I
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: was reminded of in the NHL, especially in this day
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: and age, where players have so much power over their contracts,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: and we saw this here with Panarin and Robertson, nothing
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: says solutions like finding those within your own team. They
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: did it here with Grubauer, and I'd be led to
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: believe here they've got to look at that for their
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: young players and finding a guy who finally takes the
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: mantle as a top-line center, whether it's Berkley Catton, whether
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: it's Jake O'Brien. They could be waiting in the wings here.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: But that's where the solutions, the best kind of solutions lie,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: as Everett also mentioned here, with how teams build themselves
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: into a contender. Like the Colorados will get Nathan McKinnon,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh with Sidney Crosby, and others as well. So 49451,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: we'll get to your talkbacks and texts here. Brief break.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Gary Hill Jr. waiting right around the corner. The Mariners
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: take on the Phillies here for tonight. We also got word.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: J.P.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Crawford officially back in the mix here. Reinstated. From the
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: 10-day injured list, the outlook for him and the rest,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Cal Raleigh and this team's expectations with just several weeks
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: to go in the regular season. Gary Hill Jr. joins
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: us next here on 93.3 KJRFM. Now, from the Star Rental.
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  Speaker 1: Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR FM Sports Headlines.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: All right, moving right along. Headlines are brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Frostbrood Coors Light. Breaking news on the Mariners' side.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: The Mariners have reinstated J.P. Crawford from the 10-day injured list.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Leo Rivas was optioned to AAA Tacoma. Crawford, of course,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: on the aisle since July 31 with a left wrist
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: inflammation issue. That was his third stint.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: On the I.L.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: As well, but J.P. Crawford is back in the mix. And,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: of course, as we all predicted, thank you, Molly Wopp,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Cal Raleigh had a career-high three home runs. Last night,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: the Mariners getting eight runs up on Zach Wheeler, and
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: the Mariners crushing the Phillies in a 9-2 victory. Julio
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: went deep. Cole Young went deep. Logan Gilbert, deep enough,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: five innings of two-run ball. Tonight, it'll be George Kirby
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: and Aaron Nola. head-to-head on the mound in Game 2
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: of the series at T-Mobile Park. With J.P. Crawford back in,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Colt Emerson is out for good for this season. The
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: rookie shortstop going to have season-ending surgery tomorrow to repair
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: a partially dislocated tendon in his left wrist, yet expected
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: to be ready for the start of this next season,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: according to To Mariners GM Justin Hollander, Emerson has been
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: bothered by the injury, of course, since spring training. Seahawks
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: back home from Nashville. Quick turnaround this week before heading
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: on the road to Kansas City. They practice in Renton today, tomorrow,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: and Thursday. And then it's Friday for the preseason finale
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. No starters playing in that game for
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. And also rookie running back Jadarian Price will
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: not play. in that game as well. Soccer news, big
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: soccer news, Sounders FC acquiring forward Dejan Julevic from Sporting
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: KC in exchange for $ 6 million in cash. He brings
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of offensive firepower to the Sounders, 107 career
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: goals in all competitions, three league championships, over 11 professional
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: seasons in Europe and the U.S. On to the show
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: we go. Well, you should feel hyped hearing that music.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Do you feel hyped after last evening? Against Zach Wheeler
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: and against a lot of odds, the Mariners come out
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: and don't just win, but they crushed the Phillies 9-2.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: After last 9-plus, they get more reinforcements along the way.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: J.P.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Crawford, come on down. We just talked about this fresh off.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: the injured list here, and it's going to be George
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Kirby and Aaron Nola tonight with the Mariners going for
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: the series win against the hottest team in baseball over
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: this last month. How do we put this here into
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: perspective over these next several weeks? Joining us right now
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline is Gary Hill Jr., the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: one and only from the Mariners radio broadcast booth. Gary,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: good afternoon. How are you, my man? I'm doing great.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: How are you doing?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Doing just fine, thank you. I kind of want to
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: keep the conversation, first off, going from one big league
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: broadcast booth here to the next, and we had Everett
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: Fitzhugh on with me about roughly an hour ago here
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: for the Kraken side of things, but we talked about
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: his trip here into Leavenworth, and that led into some
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: discussions on press box food. I've seen this here on
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: the NHL side. The Seattle dog is big with me.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: The Mariners do this well, but to you... spicy or
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: non-spicy mustard on a hot dog, what's your take?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: I'm not a big mustard guy, so I'm out.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm out.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Just give yourself a plain one. You're all good to go.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: You're all good to go.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: Okay, good.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you. Well, Gary Hill joins us
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: right now. And, Gary, first off, I want to go
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: back and dive into last night's win because when we've
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: gone through this whole stretch of this last month, I mean,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: it just felt like landmine after landmine here with the Mariners'
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: schedule that was supposed to really bury them. But here
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: they still are right now, three games out of first place.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: And if they find a way– Tonight, again, they will
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: clinch a series win against the hottest team in baseball
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: in the Phillies. So given the facts of last night
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: and what transpired, the offensive outburst early on, Cal Raleigh's
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: historic three-run bomb night, let's rate last night's win over
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: the hottest team in baseball's scale of 1-10. Go ahead, Gary.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, in the context of this year, that's
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: a 10, man. I mean, Because of how it happened,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: Cal going deep three times. And, you know, I think
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: we're all asking the same question after. Is this it?
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: Is this the start of the power Cal emerging here
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: for the final stretch? Because as we all know, he
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: is a difference maker for the Mariners when he's got
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: that power back going.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: So.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: Given the context coming into the game, it's funny. It's Gilbert.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: It's Wheeler.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, this is going to be a pitcher's duel.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: This is going to be a close one. And the
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: Mariners erupt for five in the first inning. So it
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: was great because you referenced this stretch. And this was
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: the concern for me, you know, as the Mariners, because
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: I've always thought heading into this last road trip that
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: the key for the Mariners is to stay in touch,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: stay in striking distance when September hits. And I thought
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: that was going to be difficult when you looked at
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: the schedule because it was a really tough road trip.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: This stretch, the Brewers, the Cubs, the Phillies, all red hot,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: all playoff teams, right? At the same time, the Astros
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: are taking on the Angels and the A's. I mean,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: there was a chance the Mariners could lose three or
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: four games just in this stretch because of schedule. And instead,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: it's been the opposite. They've gained on Houston. They're holding...
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: with Texas. And I still feel like if they can
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: get into September because the schedule, it turns so dramatically,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: it's so much softer than it is now. It's tough
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: to win the games, obviously, but they're in pretty good
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: position with the way they're playing right now. I mean,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: it really does give you some optimism heading into September.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's wild to take a look at this
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: schedule and see just how many times the A's pop up.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: The angels, one of the worst teams in baseball population, up.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: The Rockies, even though you're on the road, still one
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: of the worst teams in baseball as well. And you've
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: got that two-game series against Houston standing out. The Mariners
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: have admittedly owned them. But the Astros are the Astros.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: And I'll kind of get on to more of this
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: as far as a surprise in a bit. But to you,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: at least, in what the Astros did, Gary, with their
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: GM change, managerial as well coming, how surprised are you
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: with the Astros getting to this point?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: You know, being there a couple of times and just
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: being around, you know, talking to people and whatnot, I
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: guess I wasn't that surprised. His contract was up at
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: the end of the year. Same with the manager. Things
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: have not gone well in houston and and i'm talking
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: about not just this season but kind of big picture
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: they've been trending down the last couple of years and
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: i think the concern for them and especially comparison to
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: the mariners and big picture talking about okay what is
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: this going to look like next year and the year
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: after that you know their farm system is pretty dry
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: they've had difficulty growing their own guys, which is what
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: made them so good for all those years. And they
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: would let free agents walk and they'd replace them, right?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: There was always an Alvarez waiting or whoever was next
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: up that hasn't happened the last few years. So they
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: have some big questions to answer. They thought Dana Brown
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: was going to be that because he had did that.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: He had done that with Atlanta, but it hasn't really,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: it hasn't happened with Houston. And so You know, I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: wasn't that surprised. It's kind of weird timing, though, with
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: just a month to go. It feels like, well, why
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: not just wait until the end of the year? I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: guess if anything surprised me about it, it was the
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: timing of it. But, you know, it's funny. You kind
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: of look at how Houston was built, and all of
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: a sudden that was three regimes ago. They've really churned
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: through some GMs here, and they've had some instability. And
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, they're ahead of the Mariners in
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: the division, but I'm talking big picture here. They just
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: don't have a lot of stability, not the same stability
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: they had for so many years.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Gary Hill Jr. joining us right now on the Beacon
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: Plumbing Hotline. And we mentioned a few minutes ago the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: breaking news with J.P. Crawford back off the injured list.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of funny how it all works out
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: because Colt Emerson's done for the season and J.P. Crawford
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: moving from shortstop to third base was kind of a
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: move to not just get Emerson more reps, but also
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: manage Crawford's arm with him getting up there in age.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: But it just kind of feels like all of a
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: sudden now with Emerson out, the game has changed. But
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: on top of that, I also go back here to
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: the clubhouse component because I remember being in the clubhouse, Gary,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: last year after Game 5 of the American League Division Series,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: not just seeing how J.P. Crawford ran up the ramp,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: but just how much guys just flocked right to him.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: It's only one of many examples, I think, of how
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: much of a clubhouse guy that he is here at
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: this point. So given where he is right now, with
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: his skill set, his game, his bat, his arm. But
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: now you're getting into that time of year where you
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: talk about clubhouse as well. The meaning of getting J.P.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: Crawford back right now, what do you say?
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: I think it's really helpful because I think he makes
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: the lineup longer. You know, just pro at bats. We've seen,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: you know, Ward's numbers don't jump off the page, but
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: you kind of look at the bats have looked different
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: for the lineup here. the last week and a half,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: two weeks, really starting in Milwaukee. And I think he
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: just adds to that, just pro at bats, not swinging
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: outside the zone, right? Just making it difficult on the opposition,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: just kind of one through nine. It's what we've seen
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: here in recent days. And I think JP just adds
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: to that. And you think about his career arc, he's
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: played more games at shortstop than any other player in
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: Mariners history, you know, he's, this could be his final
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: month in a Mariners uniform, right. In the regular season. And,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: you know, he wants to go out on top as well,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: a playoff run, a deep run. Oh, you know, all
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: the goals that were there at the beginning of the season.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: And it's funny enough, despite all the frustrations and the
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: struggles to the course of this year, it's really all
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: still there for the Mariners. You know, remarkably enough, you
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: look at where they're at with 30 some games ago,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: it could all still happen. if they put it together
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: here in the final month. And so I think for
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: them to do that, JP certainly needs to be a
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: part of that, especially, you know, Emerson's out for the year.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: As you point out.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: So I feel like JP is going to slide right
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: into the shortstop spot. And when Donovan comes back, he'll
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: be the third baseman, kind of how this season started.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: And you hope that JP can just contribute just getting
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: on base and doing his thing at the end of
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: the lineup because every little bit's going to help.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: And the roller coaster keeps on going here at this point. Gary,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: I want to get back to Cal Raleigh and not
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: just the three home runs that he hit. And they
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: were absolutely smoked. And it kind of felt like the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: Cal Raleigh of old that we saw last year. But
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: since homering at Houston, 7-for-21, with a 500 on-base percentage,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: whether you want to buy, quote-unquote, he's back or not,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: you know, do your thing. But moving forward here, what
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: can we learn from last night as far as the
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: expectations of Cal Raleigh, whether it might mean the power
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: numbers or even just the quality of at-bats that he has?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because we've seen both. He's beginning at-base drawing walks,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: as you point out, the 500 on-base, but with the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: power as well, four homers. in this homestand, which is awesome.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: So I think we're all asking the same thing and
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: it's in those words.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: He's back.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: He's back. You know, I don't know. We'll see how
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: it plays out.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: But it is certainly encouraging because it's looked great. The
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: numbers are there, but the swings have looked great. The
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: swing decisions have looked great because despite the struggles this year,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: when you kind of look at underneath the, you know,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: what are kind of the differences between last year and
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: this year? And for me, it's been, we've seen a
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: little more chase and we've seen a little more of
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: not swinging as much in the zone, right? So you're
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: swinging at pitches outside the zone, which you just look
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: at the numbers. You just don't have great numbers when
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: you make contact out of the zone. You put up
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: your numbers with contact in the zone. So between those
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: two things, But that's a skill set that Cal has,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: and he can get back to that. It feels like
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: when hitters talk about being in between, it's that, you know,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: swinging at pitches they shouldn't, letting go fastballs over the
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: plate that they should swing at, that sort of thing.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: But that's the kind of thing that can get turned
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: around because Cal has that skill set. We have seen it, right?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: We have all witnessed it. So, Can he go on
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: a final month and hit, I don't know, eight homers
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: or whatever?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: Get on base with walks? Yes, because he's that kind
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: of player. He can absolutely do that. We'll see how
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: it plays out, but I know if he does do
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: that and being that middle-of-the-order guy, I think he'd really
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: feel good about where the Mariners are heading into September,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: given the context of where the other teams in the
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: division are, the schedule, everything else. Because he is a
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: true difference maker.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: For the Mariners.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: And I've said it all year, it's going to be
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: tough for them to achieve their goals without Cal Raleigh's
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: bat in the middle. And I'm not talking about 60
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: home run Cal Raleigh, because that's impossible, right? But, you know,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: the power bat in the middle, the 30-plus home run guy.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: I think that you certainly raise a great point. I've
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: said this before here. I mean, if we're looking at 60, well,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost kind of like a fool's errand,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: but can you find a guy who is going to
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: be consistently putting up, you know, decent numbers as far
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: as whether you want to talk an average OPS, but
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: also power numbers getting back up into that 30 or
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: 40 territory here. I want to touch on the bullpen.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: One of my favorite things about baseball is the beauty,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: one of the beauties of the game. And you see
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: this from time to time where a guy could struggle
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: all year, right? But the beauty of the game, if
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: you can put together a great September when it really
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: matters and try and punch your team's ticket to the
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: postseason or have a postseason run, all of that can
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: get forgotten. Jorge Polanco is a great example. When you
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: really look back at his month by month last year,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: he had a great first month and then really struggled
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: for a lot of the season. But no one cared
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: because he had a great September season. He helped ignite
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: that run. He had the walk-off. Everything else fell away
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: because of what he did in September. And I think
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: that's one of the beauties of the game. And who knows?
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: Cal could have that kind of run where he makes
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: us all forget what happened early in the season.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Uncanny, yeah, uncanny how this just works out once the
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: calendar turns from September to October. And as they say,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: flags fly forever, and you are forever immortalized if you
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: show up come October. Here is Gary Hill Jr. joins
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. One thing, Gary,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get to from last night, maybe that
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: kind of flew a bit under the radar, was the bullpen.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert was good enough. Five innings you get out
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: of him. But even with no Andres Munoz, you get
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: a completely scoreless run around the track with Sir Anthony Dominguez,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: Gabe Spire, and Carlos Fargas as well. Again, no Andres Munoz.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: So where does this set the M's bullpen up eventually
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: when they can get Matt Brash back in there?
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a good outing, I thought, especially from Dominguez,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: who has had a couple of really good ones. He
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: was heroic the other day in extra innings, but that's
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: got to feel especially great against his former team. yeah
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: so that was good because as we all know the
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: phillies have a lot of pop and they've been red
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: hot and even in a six run game it's like
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: well you know you get schwarber up with a couple
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: guys one swimming the game can change so you're right
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: to point them out they were really good i think
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: uh Adding Brashback would be enormous because, as we know,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: he is a game changer and there's just no way
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: to replace what he does. His stuff is so wicked.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: And when there's guys aboard and you call on him
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: with his swing and miss, there's a good chance he's
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: going to get out of it. He's such a unique
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: weapon that you just can't replace that. So he's a
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: real game changer if he comes back healthy. When they
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: are right... what I mean by that is when they
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: are rested and ready now, it's been difficult, more difficult
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: to manage recently because they've had, they've had some starter blowups.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: And I think that's going to be a key down
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: the stretch is they need more consistent consistency, especially on
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: the road from their rotation. But when they are rested
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: and ready, it's a good backend. It's a quality backend,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: especially with brash because you get the ball to Munoz
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: has been nails for the most part, the last couple
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: of months, You have kind of everything you need. A
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: couple of really good lefties, a couple of really good righties.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: You can really shorten games. But I think part of
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: that is making sure they're in a good spot by
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: getting consistent starts. And to Logan's credit, he's been phenomenal
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: really since the end of May. He has been the
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: head of the rotation. He's been really consistent. We've seen
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: him a number of times take the ball after a
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: really tough loss or in a game where they don't
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 5: have much in the bullpen and they need some innings.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: He's been nails for them. He's been really good. So
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: they need more consistency, a little more like Logan here
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: down the stretch.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: I vividly remember taking the family and the kiddos and
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: the seats to the 4th of July and just seeing
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert deal in a game that had some potential
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: historical buildup, but he was dealing at an elite level
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: like that, which is certainly, I think, a sight to see.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: But in comparison here with George Kirby, who will get
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Aaron Nola for tonight, Gary Kirby, we all know about
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: the bulldog in him, but now we're getting into the
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: phase of this, where we talk about also the recent
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: stretches where I think it matters, given the fact that
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: you're facing a Phillies lineup that can absolutely feast on
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: this place pitches. I brought this up earlier. Kirby's last
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: five starts, nine hits, eight hits, four hits, five hits,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: seven hits. And you got a few six earned runs
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: and seven earned runs. Also, sprinkled in there so given
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: the numbers but yet what we've seen when he's dialed
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: in with his command the biggest key for George Kirby
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: this evening against the Phillies is.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: What yeah command is it and what I mean by
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: that he can't leave balls over the plate to the
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: Phillies and I think part of that when you when
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: you all those numbers you just read when you talk
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: about hits and talk about runs I think that's it
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: is leaving balls over the plate against good teams and
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: the Phillies you just you've got to make sure you're
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: on the corners. You got to make sure you're hitting
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: the spots. You got to make sure you're ahead because
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: the Phillies will punish you with the way they're playing
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: right now. And especially, you know, you get guys on
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: for Schwarber, right? That's not a good place to be.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: You get guys on for Harper. That's not where you
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: want to be. So it's just key that he is
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: not leaving balls over the plate. Cause I think that's
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: what's gotten them in the, in some of these last
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: few starts, especially on the road. So, It's at home,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: so hopefully things are a little different. But they need Kirby.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: They really do. They need him to be good down
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: the stretch. They're a much different team. It's a much
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: different rotation when George Kirby is the guy that we
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: have seen in the past.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: All right, finally, before I let you go here, after
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: this next week, it's going to lighten up. You mentioned
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: this as far as the Mariners' schedule. So whether you're
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: talking about Toronto, you're talking about Boston here, the tougher
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: piece of competition, who's it going to be, Gary?
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: Ooh, I think that's going to be, that's a great question.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: I think that's going to be a tough trip for
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: both because Toronto, you know, I feel like Toronto, you
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: never really know what you're going to get at this point.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: Like they have, they're fighting, they're in the wildcard mix
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: with just about everyone else. But, you know, they've had
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: a similar season to the Mariners in that they had
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: high expectations coming in. They should have won the World
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: Series last year and didn't. You know, they felt like
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: they were going back and they have just not been
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: able to put it together this year at all. And
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: so I think it's going to be tricky from that aspect.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: And as we've seen with the Red Sox, you know,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: they've been excellent. You know, this last second half of
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: the season, they've won four in a row coming into today.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: So I don't think either is going to be easy.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 5: And I still feel the same. It's just a big
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: series because when they get back home, then you four
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: games against the A's. three games against the Rangers. So
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 5: circle that one at home because right now the Rangers
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: are the team in first place. But, you know, as
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: the Rangers have a series with the White Sox now,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 5: the Brewers after that, so it's a tough stretch for them. But, man,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: that's a good question. I don't have a good answer
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 5: because I think both are going to be tough.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, wouldn't it be funny with this whole roller
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: coaster season, we finally see a way where both the
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: Mariners and the Blue Jays wind up in the postseason
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: and they square off again. Would that not be the
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: creme de la creme of a topsy turvy season, Gary?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: I gotta be honest. I would not put anything past
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: this American league. I honestly, I have no idea what
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: to expect from anyone and wait till the playoffs. That's why,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: you know, if you can just get in, who knows, man,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: because this thing is wide open. There's not a team
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: in the American league that you look at and say,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 5: Oh no, Can't beat them in a five-game series or
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: can't beat them in a seven-game series. And every team
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 5: is saying that about everyone else. I think the American
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: League is wide open. It's just you've got to get in.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: That's the thing. You've got to get in.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: Nothing is certain in this league right now in this
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: day and age, but one thing for certain, you're going
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: to have a bang-up call here for tonight, my man. Hey,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: appreciate you, Gary. Thank you. We'll talk to you down
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: the road again.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: Sounds good, anytime.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Gary Hill Jr. joining us here from
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• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I'm an LSU alum. I went to school at LSU-S.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: This is gross.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin, come on.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: Five years, that's what it should be.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: We all know it.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: Let's move on.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: Well, you want a name like Lane Kiffin for your program?
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: You better know what you're signing up for. Do I
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: even need to point you to the ESPN 30 for
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: 30 on Lane Kiffin?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Just job hops all over the place. But you should
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: have known this is how a guy in Lane Kiffin's
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: ilk and how he operates... Everything is within a realm
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: of chaos, of spin, of changing angles, changing lanes. This
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: is what you get with Lane Kiffin. Yep, wouldn't be
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: surprised if we're looking at a total teardown of the
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: SEC and the Big Ten and moving out to their
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: own private entity within five years. I said ten, but hey,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith said maybe five. Mike in for Ian, Travis Moger,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: the MVP, the most valuable producer on the other side
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: of the glass here, by the way. 49451 Tacoma Dodge
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: text line. Got one here from Rod. When do you
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: think the Seahawks may extend Mike McDonald's contract? Rod in
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: the 206. I still think that we're years away from
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: that right now.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do think that Sean Payton's extension back
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: in June kind of gave us some direction on that.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: But McDonald got a contract out of the gate that
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: was already up there With historic proportions and what coaches
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: were being paid, something around like 9 mil, I want
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: to say if I'm correct. But you get one ring
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: in the bag. You get another. You get another. And
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: when that six-year contract ends, I mean, let's put it
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: this way. The Seahawks got to be thankful here that
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: there is no salary cap on contract coaches. Because you're
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: looking at maybe paying Dodgers like some to keep a
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: guy like Mike McDonald and keep him happy.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: Do it.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: Whatever it takes. And Mike McDonald is presumably worth every penny.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: If you're a 12. 49451. Is there a limit to
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: what you pay Mike McDonald years down the road? I
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: know that we're talking about something that's way, way, way
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: down the road. But when you get there, is it
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: worth it? Is there a price tag on Mike McDonald's contract?
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: 49451.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: 206 saying JP is a liability here on the field. Yes,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: I agree. And I look at this from every time
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: you have a ground ball to shortstop, where is it
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: going to land? Because we may have the same questions of,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: will so-and-so be swinging at the slider about three feet
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: outside of the zone, which this baseball team can kind
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: of fall into the bad habit of doing. It's a
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: lot of swing for the fences, Travis. A lot of
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: home runs, but a lot of Ks and a lot
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: of ugly Ks also. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: what you get with them. You've got to keep J.P.,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. Insulated. Maybe expect, I think,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: a few thrown balls. Five feet wide of the bag.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor, have yourself an adventure. Choose your own adventure.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: This is what you get, though. Hoping that you're not
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: getting too many ground balls over the shortstop. Quinn253, some
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: sick part of me is rooting here for the Rangers
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: against the White Sox. Purely for the thought that we
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: can still run down number two in the American League
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: with what's ahead of them in September. And they choose
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: to pull... They're collective heads out of you-know-what. For some reason,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: I still love this team, and I still believe that
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: from Quinn in the 2-5-3. So you root for the
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: Rangers against the White Sox. This would then bring the No.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: 2 seed back into play, but based on where the
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: White Sox are at right now, 68-63, I mean, it's
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: not inconceivable that We've said this before, five wins in
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: a row, six wins in a row. You haven't had
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: it much here in the American League and what has
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: been one of the most volatile leagues in years. But again,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: I've been conditioned here to expect the unexpected this year
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: with this team and with this American League. Five wins
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: in a row, six games in a row, and with
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: the right kind of combination, look at the White Sox
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: and Rangers, you still could be in play. That would
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: go a long way with resting your arms and resting
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: your veterans to skip the wild card. Jumping down here.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: 2-5-3 expectation, the Kraken this season. All the talk about
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: going out and getting a player, making this team a
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: playoff contender. They're still going to be terrible, even if
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: they're rolling out seven or eight players at 23 years
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: of age. You just got to get used to a
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: tough season again. That from the 2-5-3. Here's where I'm
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: curious about where your mindset goes now versus back in
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: May or June. I lost count at how many people
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: said enough about We've seen too much of the old
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: guard hang around. Nothing is happening. It is time for
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: them to move on. That ultimately is what you're getting
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: right now. You've seen old contracts now go out the door. Really,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: the only guys who are still here, if you want
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: to count full-time since day one on this roster, Jared McCann,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: Vince Dunn, Adam Larson, Philip Grubauer, Jordan Eberle. If you
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: want to count Joey Decord, maybe he was technically there
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: opening night but did not play. But yet, when you
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: look at the kind of young talent that you need,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: did we not say for months that this team has
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: got to go young? Many of you said this team
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: has got to go young. This is now what you're getting.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: I think to me the ultimate question is, after you
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: took your swings and you missed on Panarin, on Jason Robertson,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: does that condition you to be a little bit more cautious?
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: In the free agent market, given the fact, well, short-term
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: right now, Travis, there's no more names out there, realistically.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: A lot of them are high-risk signings. And I'm talking
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: about one example, Patrick Laine, rocket shot, but has issues
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: of staying healthy. And some of the question may be
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: his defense, or in the words of James Harden, a
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: James Harden-level kind of defense.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: Those are kind of the high-risk guys who are still
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: out there, and curiously, they've not been signed yet, and
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: it's August 25th. But yeah, I even go here to
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: the trade market, where is it really worth it getting
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: a guy who's going to play at your top right now,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: but block someone else who's younger and could be developing
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: with the right amount of ice time? That ultimately, I
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: think for me, is the biggest question, and many of
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: you have said, let the young kids play. They're coming.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: But you have to take some lumps here with the
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: mistakes they will make so they can learn from said
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: mistakes and be better when they are older, when they
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: are stronger. And it's said in the NHL, you've got
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: to play with brains. Ultimately, they are wiser. One more
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: from Marcus206. Mariners will win the World Series. I don't
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: know much about hockey, but based on sports, a young
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: team won't do much. They're going to win the World Series, though.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. Just based on just how crazy
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: this season's been. But can you imagine saying that Sunday night?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: Like, after that game? I mean, realistically, I called them
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: dead after the Dodgers series.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: The ups and downs. It's just... And they're still alive, man.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: They're still alive. It's so much. You're getting handed every
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: opportunity here to be competitive. and which they're doing right now,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: and they're still only three games back. That's how crazy
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: this is, and one more win gets them a series
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: win against Philadelphia. I think Captain Positivity, is that Softie?
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: We call him that still, Captain Positivity? One was Captain Positivity,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: and one was Sergeant Doom. I don't know, but Softie's
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: up next. You know, I'm kind of surprised that we
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: didn't get more traction here on the Tacoma Dodge text
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: line with Corbin Smith explaining the details behind his red
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: suit he wore on TV. Yeah, I thought he was
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: working at a movie theater. When's the last time you
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: ever owned a suit, by the way? Come on, man.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: Like now?
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 9: I own a suit now. Now the question is, how
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 9: often do I wear the damn thing? That's the question.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 9: I don't think you've worn a suit since prom. No,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 9: I last wore a suit. I went to a wedding
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 9: about six months ago. And I tried it on about
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 9: a week before the wedding, and I was horrified because
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 9: it did not fit me. And so I spent the
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 9: next week fasting, not eating a damn thing before the wedding.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: I can just picture the lining of this one. It's
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: got Don James inside.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 9: Like Michael Pennix in the Heisman Trophy.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 9: I have all the names of people I want to
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 9: kill inside my suit. Like Steve Buscemi from Billy Madison.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Remember that? When he put the lipstick on and wiped
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: all the names off and lipstick on the wall?
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 9: That's what I have. I have a kill list inside
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 9: my suit. And you better watch yourself, pal.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: So now I can actually go to your desk. I
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: can now steal your jacket for 30 seconds and say, okay,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: am I good?
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: Am I good?
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: Am I good? Okay, I'm not good. I better go hide.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 9: You got to come to the house and sit in
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 9: the man cave, man, and know the secret code to
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 9: get in.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: By the way, it's New England clam chowder. Not three times.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: I can't eat that stuff, but I'll give you the password.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: You can't eat that stuff. What are you, lactose intolerant?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: What's wrong?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 7: Fish.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: Fish allergy. You don't like fish? I've known you for
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: about six years. You had no idea about this? What's
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: your name again?
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: Who are you?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 9: I don't know who this guy is. I'm an avatar now.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 9: I didn't know you had a seafood allergy.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: God, that sucks, man. I can't have fish.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: Terrible.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: What would happen if you had a scallop or a prawn?
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: I need to go to the hospital.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: The closest thing I ever had though, when, when I,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: I had a reaction and I survived it, like meaning
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to leave. My job was about 10
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: years ago with the Everett silver tips. I grabbed the
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: press meal. We didn't have signs on there. I thought
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: it was chicken Alfredo. I sit down and a coworker goes,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: how's the salmon Alfredo? And I go, Oh, Are you
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: kidding me? So you carry like a pen with you
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: or something like that? Well, I didn't at that time.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: So what I did, I dropped everything. I ran down
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: the hall at Angel of the Winds Arena. It might
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: have set an Olympic record. Wow. Bust right into the
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: locker room with the guys getting ready. And there was
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: like probably about eight future NHLers in that room.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: And they look at me like, what the heck is
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: the radio guy doing in here at like 545? And
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: I go right in the trainer's room and I say,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: get me an EpiPen now. But you carry one now,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: is that right?
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 9: That might be a hell of a party trick, by
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 9: the way. God, what's wrong with Benton's face? It's expanding
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 9: by the second like Will Smith and Hitch.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: Remember that? When his face got all swelled up? I
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: can just see you right now like, oh, I just
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: can't wait to stab Benton right now with something. Do
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: you guys not watch movies? What the hell's going on here?
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: I watch good movies. Unbelievable. I've watched Hitch like five
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: different times.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: Hitch is a phenomenal movie, man. What's wrong with you, Trav?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: Come on, buddy. Will Smith, I think Eva Mendes is
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: in it, too, by the way.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 7: Who's the..
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: The King of Queens guy. Kevin James, right? He's in it, man.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: Come on, Moger.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: Kevin James just cycles over and over and over. His
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: stuff never gets old.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 9: All right, well, I was going to get you a
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 9: gift card for your birthday to Duke Seafood Restaurant.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love Duke's. No, you're not getting it. Great Burger.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: Great Burger. Can't have it, man. Oh, come on. Can't
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: have it. No, I don't want you anywhere near seafood.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 9: No takesie-backsies now. Nope, I don't want you anywhere near seafood.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 9: If you die, I don't want that on my conscience,
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  Speaker 9: by the way, at all. So I'll get you something else.
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  Speaker 2: At least I'll live here to see postseason baseball. Are
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: all the Mariners back, by the way? Are they back?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're back, but they're making the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I said that two days ago. Oh, did you ever?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, dude, have you seen the difference in their
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 9: schedule versus the Rangers and Astros schedule in September?
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  Speaker 2: It's absurd. We talked about this. How many ouchies do
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  Speaker 2: the Rangers and the Astros have on that schedule right now?
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 9: After today, we've got, I believe, five more games left
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  Speaker 9: against teams that are above 500. Starting September 3rd, their
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 9: schedule is made up of teams that are a combined
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  Speaker 9: 88 games under.
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  Speaker 2: 500.
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  Speaker 9: The Astros have 19 games left, starting with the Yankees tonight.
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  Speaker 9: And the Rangers have 15 games left with the White
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  Speaker 9: Sox series right now. So, I mean, again, you're being
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 9: given every opportunity in the book, every break in the book.
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  Speaker 9: We're going to let you make the playoffs when it's
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 9: easier than ever to make the playoffs because half the
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 9: damn league makes the playoffs. We're going to put you
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  Speaker 9: in the worst division possible. And if that's not enough,
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  Speaker 9: by the way, if you're getting greedy, okay, fine. We'll
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  Speaker 9: give you the easiest schedule in baseball the rest of
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  Speaker 9: the way. Not just the easiest schedule in the division, Mike.
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  Speaker 9: The easiest schedule in baseball the rest of the way.
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  Speaker 9: So if they don't make it, shame on them.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 9: If the Mariners don't make the playoffs, you're having a
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 9: halibut for dinner tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The death march is on and they'll start with me.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: They'll start with me.
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  Speaker 9: Dick and I had this conversation the other day on
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 9: the air because I wanted to do a bet with
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 9: Dick on the air about the M's making the playoffs.
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  Speaker 9: Dick proclaimed about a week ago that they're done. So
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 9: he's Sergeant Doomsdale.
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  Speaker 2: Which, yes, correct.
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  Speaker 9: You are Captain Positivity. Which a lot of people have
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 9: done that, right? He's not the only one that have
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 9: said the M's are done. I said, all right, let's
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 9: have a little wager on the air. I'll throw in
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  Speaker 9: like 500 bucks to Dukes, whatever. You could have a
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 9: great meal for 500 bucks, if not two great meals
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 9: for 500 bucks. All the wine, booze, you want appetizers, whatever.
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  Speaker 9: What you need to do, and I saw this online
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 9: on Twitter, a guy lost a fantasy football bet, and
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 9: he played a round of golf wearing a dog shock
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 9: collar on his neck.
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  Speaker 2: And his buddies got to zap him whenever they wanted to.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: Lighting up for a putt. Lighting up for a tee shot. Whatever.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: Duck my face in like a whole vat of like salmon.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: Imagine Dick Faina on the air. Well, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: what's up.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And he wouldn't do it because he's got like an
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 9: irregular heartbeat and he would die.
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  Speaker 2: Can you take another Mariners-Blue Jays playoff series, though? If
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: we beat him, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Are you actually talking about like you could die from
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 9: this thing?
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  Speaker 2: That's how bad it is? If I don't go to
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: the hospital, yes.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, so as long as there's a hospital within how
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 9: many minutes? Five minutes away?
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  Speaker 3: Ten minutes away? Five minutes, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Great, five minutes.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 9: So if the Mariners make the World Series, would you
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 9: be willing to have a plate– of shrimp scampi as
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 9: long as there's a hospital within five minutes away.
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  Speaker 2: If you get a piece of paper and color it
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  Speaker 2: on there and i'll eat the paper yes would you
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: do that for me maybe is it worth the five
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: minute ride to the er for a trip to the
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: world series maybe i don't know the answer is absolutely
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: maybe so okay maybe so what you got going What's today?
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  Speaker 9: Tuesday, John Wilder will join us at 5 o'clock. Aaron Goldsmith,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 9: who called not one, not two, but three Cal Raleigh
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 9: home runs. He'll join us at 4 o'clock today. Brian
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 9: Schmetzer after their big signing, right? Their big trade today
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 9: with Kansas City this afternoon. He'll join us at 545.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 9: A little fun with audio, testimonials, the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up, man. I'm just making sure that Softy's suit
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: says I'm still in good graces here. Good to see you, pal.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: Don't eat any seafood. We don't want you dying. Big thanks,
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  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith, Everett, Gary Hill Jr. Big thanks also, Trav, Softy,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: Dick Fane. Up next for Ian, I'm Mike. See ya.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 9: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 9: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.