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INTERVIEW: Jim Jones On Staying Relevant, Putting People On, Repping Harlem, Kanye, Cam'ron + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club, Morning everybody, it's the e j env
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  Speaker 2: just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club
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  Speaker 2: just as out today. Lor l Rosa is feeling in
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  Speaker 2: and we got a special guest in the building. His
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  Speaker 2: album is out this Friday. At the Church Steps. You
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  Speaker 2: done did it again, man, cap Old, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: Jim Jones, what with you'll welcome? How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 4: I'm feeling pretty good. I can't complain.
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  Speaker 1: Man, you make some good ass music.
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  Speaker 5: I done told you this a million times, but at
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  Speaker 5: some point you would think there'd be some type of
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  Speaker 5: fall off or something, but it just has not been
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  Speaker 5: at all. Like at the Church Steps is a phenomenal,
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  Speaker 5: phenomenal body of work.
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  Speaker 4: Man, God is good.
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  Speaker 3: So let's let's get into the mind frame.
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  Speaker 2: Because we were talking behind the scenes and we was like,
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  Speaker 2: he knows how to make music.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I was comparing it to. I
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  Speaker 1: was comparing it to Rick Ross, Like Rick Ross just music.
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  Speaker 5: We got a great ear and he always got fire
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  Speaker 5: and you you the same way.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, man. I appreciate that. That's big. That's big.
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  Speaker 4: That's big. I was I wash the whole world to
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  Speaker 4: see it like.
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  Speaker 3: That, And why why don't you think they see it
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  Speaker 3: like that?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, man. You know, I always been an
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  Speaker 4: independent artist. I didn't have most of the promo that
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  Speaker 4: most of the major artists have and things like that.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to go. But it feels good to be
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  Speaker 4: where I'm at right now. I think I'm in a
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  Speaker 4: unique place for how long I've been in the game
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  Speaker 4: and to be able to navigate with the youngsters and
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  Speaker 4: still have my core fair base and and some new
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  Speaker 4: so it's dope. I mean, I'm engaged. I'm embracing the
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  Speaker 4: new wave of marketing through technology and digital stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, it's giving me a real jump on
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  Speaker 4: what I got going on.
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  Speaker 3: And what keeps you there?
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  Speaker 4: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it your son? Is it being outside?
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  Speaker 2: Because Jim sends Meet Records a lot throughout the year,
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  Speaker 2: and like Charlamagne said, it always sounds relevant. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like it's not relevant even if it's an older, little
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  Speaker 2: classic field, but it also has a classic field. So
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  Speaker 2: what keeps you in that zone?
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  Speaker 4: I'm a classic hustler, I mean, I mean, but if
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  Speaker 4: I don't live life, then I wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 4: continue to do my music the way my hustle is
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  Speaker 4: set up and things like that. As far as going
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  Speaker 4: outside of getting the money feed my family is, it
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  Speaker 4: still has me outside, So that's a big reflection on
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  Speaker 4: the music. And then you know, I have artists, they
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  Speaker 4: all younger than me, so I get to see how
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  Speaker 4: they live in and I live vicariously through them. So
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  Speaker 4: it's a lot going on. And then you know, I
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  Speaker 4: love the younger generation and people that's coming up. I
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  Speaker 4: always like to give them a help of hand. So
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  Speaker 4: in turn it's a full service. We help each ovel
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  Speaker 4: our way. Hand watch the other, both hand watch the face.
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  Speaker 4: But the urgency of music for me is like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: besides everything else. When you're a person that comes from rap,
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  Speaker 4: ain't nothing like having a hit record that helps everything
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  Speaker 4: that's out tremendously, And when you got that cool behind you,
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  Speaker 4: it's like none you can't do. And the business stuff
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  Speaker 4: coming company starts. I mean, so it always starts with
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  Speaker 4: the music. And you can ask anybody who does music.
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  Speaker 5: It's harder to make like the records you got on
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  Speaker 5: like the at the Church steps Aultum, like the Joe
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  Speaker 5: Mo and the Genesis, just those dope street records. It's
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  Speaker 5: harder to make those are a hit single, like a.
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  Speaker 4: Ball hit single, like a Balling because the records that
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  Speaker 4: you hear is a reflection of things that are really
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  Speaker 4: going through if you listen to the music and things
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  Speaker 4: like that, like you know what I mean. So it's
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  Speaker 4: like it's very easy for me to talk about actual,
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  Speaker 4: real things that you know, I mean, But you got
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  Speaker 4: them records that you need for getting lit in the
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  Speaker 4: club and things like that. Sometimes those are the hardest
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  Speaker 4: records for me to kind of produce.
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  Speaker 3: You know, do you chase Balling though?
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  Speaker 2: Do you chase that record, try to make a bigger record,
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  Speaker 2: or do you just make records to say if it
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  Speaker 2: connected connected.
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  Speaker 4: Would after the successive Balling, I used to chase Balling, damn,
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  Speaker 4: like I gotta findle I mean. And then slowly but
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  Speaker 4: surely I got out of that phase of just trying
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  Speaker 4: to chase Balling and make music that I continue to
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  Speaker 4: make money. I mean, And I do believe I hit
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  Speaker 4: to come, and a few hits came since Balling.
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  Speaker 5: You had one, But to your point, I guess you
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  Speaker 5: didn't have the label behind it, the joint And then
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  Speaker 5: and then away, Yes, I should have been out of
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  Speaker 5: here and.
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  Speaker 4: Then so I show you how it goes. So Wayne
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  Speaker 4: had put a record out similar to that, like a
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  Speaker 4: little bit after that, where he was singing and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, but it's the support sometimes and
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  Speaker 4: you know just how the game go. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: have some dope records that I'm proud of. Whether they
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  Speaker 4: ain't get the platinum success or the success that I wanted,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm definitely proud of all my music to still
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  Speaker 4: be here coming up to the Breakfast club all these
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  Speaker 4: years later from where I started, it's definitely incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I was talking to Lauren before you got a pair.
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  Speaker 2: We was talking about an interview you did and you
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  Speaker 2: said you spent twenty million dollars the time of ball
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  Speaker 2: and you ran through twenty million. Yeah, And I was,
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  Speaker 2: and I was counting your pockets. I was like, Jim
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  Speaker 2: loves calls, but he ain't love calls like that. Right then,
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  Speaker 2: I said, Jim loves houses, but here you love houses
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  Speaker 2: like that. Jim has jewelry, but not twenty million dollars worth.
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  Speaker 2: Where did you spend the twenty million dollars just.
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  Speaker 4: Just spending and living? Like my credit cars sometimes like
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a month, you heard.
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  Speaker 4: And I ain't got nothing to do with the every
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  Speaker 4: day expensive So you know, we deal with a lot
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  Speaker 4: of cash and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: So I know it was a lot of PJ he
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  Speaker 3: was on. He was PJ king at one time.
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  Speaker 4: This is what I'm trying to say. So if you
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  Speaker 4: jumping on the jet all these times, and your jet
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  Speaker 4: build some time might be half a million month just
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  Speaker 4: because you trying to get place, it's all added up.
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  Speaker 4: Is not like I spent it like it was just
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  Speaker 4: the accumulation during the ball of the error. Through those
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  Speaker 4: few years where I was getting money, I was getting
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  Speaker 4: and I was blowing it. And as I looked back
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  Speaker 4: thinking about the money that was spending, came on to
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  Speaker 4: about twenty years routine the deal money to show money
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  Speaker 4: to all money feature money, like I'm burning through that shit,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I ain't got twenty
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  Speaker 4: million dollars to show for it, but I definitely spent
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  Speaker 4: it on the land and shit like that, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: I know you said in the same interview you don't
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  Speaker 6: regret anything, but there were things that you probably would
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  Speaker 6: have done differently, or just just things you would have
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  Speaker 6: done at that time that you didn't do. What were
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  Speaker 6: some of those things now when you're looking back, like, yo,
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  Speaker 6: I could have put I could have.
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  Speaker 4: Did this, I could have been way more financially responsible
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  Speaker 4: than I was. But I got this thing there that
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  Speaker 4: you don't know till you grow. I was very young
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  Speaker 4: and dumb at that time, and the experience was worth it.
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  Speaker 4: But as I'm older than I'm thinking back, like, damn
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  Speaker 4: if we did have some people in my corner or
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  Speaker 4: grew up a little bit different where we were tall
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  Speaker 4: financial literacy as opposed to coming up in the hood,
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  Speaker 4: and we were taught to get that money, Go get
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  Speaker 4: the car, go get it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a product of the projects you did. Like so
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  Speaker 4: everything I seen is everything I wanted. And I got
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  Speaker 4: that money and I emulated what I seen outside. We
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  Speaker 4: wasn't taught to, oh, by real estate. We wasn't taught to, oh,
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  Speaker 4: get savings. We wasn't taught none of that. We was
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  Speaker 4: taught to save what you cared in the shoe boxing
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  Speaker 4: style out on everybody else, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And that was the mentality I had and it took
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  Speaker 4: me to go through a lot to learn any bit
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  Speaker 4: of financial literacy, like to the point where I part
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  Speaker 4: of the ways with my account. And ever since I've
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  Speaker 4: done that years ago, it was like, was me really
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  Speaker 4: gaining control of the moneys that I had because I
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  Speaker 4: actually had to see it when I had an account
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  Speaker 4: and I never saw the money. I just was spending
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  Speaker 4: the money until I was in debt.
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  Speaker 6: I was talking to somebody about that yesterday actually, and
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  Speaker 6: they were seeing that they can't wait to wait to
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  Speaker 6: get to the point where they're making enough money where
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  Speaker 6: they could just throw people to manage you real quick.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, I don't know, I kind of
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  Speaker 6: want to see mine and feel this. I know where
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  Speaker 6: it's going.
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  Speaker 3: I know where I'm messing up.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody to pay your bills, just me being ended up
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  Speaker 4: on a rock bottom, and how didn't make a decision
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  Speaker 4: like yo, moving forward? You got to do something different
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  Speaker 4: because what you've been doing is not working for you now.
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  Speaker 4: Having a business manager and having account in two different things.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes account access a business manager, but a business manager
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  Speaker 4: is really supposed to help you make some money with
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  Speaker 4: the money that you have, and things like that. You
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean and then count. It helps you
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  Speaker 4: just pretty much pay your bills and keep your taxes
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  Speaker 4: and orders and things like that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't know the difference between the two, and
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just but I learned, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm here. God is good. I was
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  Speaker 4: able to bounce back. I was dealing with some scary times,
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  Speaker 4: but I always had a hustle and spirit. I know
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  Speaker 4: how to make money, what I mean, but I didn't
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  Speaker 4: know how to make business. So now I've learned how
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  Speaker 4: to make business so that these business can make me money.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm in a whole different status feeling life right now,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel real good about it.
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  Speaker 1: But your debut album is all my Way to Church,
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  Speaker 1: All my way to church. This album is at the church.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty years later, I feel I'm that much closer to
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  Speaker 4: getting my life totally together, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And we can't do that without having God in my life.
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  Speaker 1: When you go into church, thought.
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  Speaker 7: Close to it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very close. So I mean I grew up in
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  Speaker 4: the church, I mean for all my life when I
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  Speaker 4: was younger, Sunday school, all night, pray me and all
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  Speaker 4: that type of stuff. So I'm a golfer it, man.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I have very good morals, a very great
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  Speaker 4: moral compass, and that's why I believe that I'm still
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  Speaker 4: able to be here in good favor and things like that.
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  Speaker 5: Laurie, tell him what you said. I like the conversations
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  Speaker 5: people have about music when you they not in front
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  Speaker 5: of you. Tell them what you said. You didn't know
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  Speaker 5: about Jim.
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  Speaker 6: I was about to go there from the order of
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  Speaker 6: how you put this project together. I didn't know that
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  Speaker 6: you were like emotional as emotional as you said.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's like and I don't think that's a
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  Speaker 7: bad thing.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's like when I think about you, I
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  Speaker 6: think about like Jim Jones tough you don't play with him,
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  Speaker 6: and I think about the big records. I don't think
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  Speaker 6: I've ever really sat and digested a full project, and
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  Speaker 6: I did that and preparing for this, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 6: you put a lot out there, you talk about how
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  Speaker 6: you feel and you take your time with it, where
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  Speaker 6: like I really felt it. I'm like, Wow, he was
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  Speaker 6: really going through some things. And then by the time
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  Speaker 6: we got the church steps, it's like, Okay, now he's
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  Speaker 6: coming up out of it and know that you were
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  Speaker 6: like that in your music.
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  Speaker 4: You know anything about cancers?
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  Speaker 1: What I tell you, what I think.
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  Speaker 7: I learned today.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's who I am. All of my music, I
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  Speaker 4: pretty much will all my emotions on my sleeve, which
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  Speaker 4: I've gotten better at. Like I've my decision making used
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  Speaker 4: to be all about an emotional decision, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I make the wrong choices a lot of life. And
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  Speaker 4: I've gotten very good with me keeping a level ahead
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  Speaker 4: and not letting the little things get to me and
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  Speaker 4: things like that, things that I can't do nothing about,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm proud of myself
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  Speaker 4: for doing so, because there was a time where I
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  Speaker 4: will react to every little thing and put myself in
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  Speaker 4: all types of trouble for no reason, and you know
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  Speaker 4: I would never benefit from it. I'll be like shooting
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  Speaker 4: myself in the foot every time I had something good
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  Speaker 4: going on?
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  Speaker 1: Is it therapeutic for you?
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  Speaker 4: Didn't?
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  Speaker 5: Because when you hear the music, you literally hear you
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  Speaker 5: expressing your life to music. I feel like if you
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  Speaker 5: listen to this album, whatever questions they have, you answer
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  Speaker 5: them in some.
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  Speaker 4: Way, shape or form one hundred percent. That's what this
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  Speaker 4: album turned into. Be Remember I was doing this album
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  Speaker 4: for eighteen months. So this album changed that actions like
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  Speaker 4: three four times. And I mean it was a core
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  Speaker 4: body of work that I always loved, like records, but
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  Speaker 4: as I was living life and going through certain situations,
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  Speaker 4: the music would change and things like that. And as
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  Speaker 4: we all seen everything that transpired in the media recently
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  Speaker 4: and things like that. So as I get I was
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  Speaker 4: able to get a bit of that emotion also and
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  Speaker 4: everything is that answered some questions that people. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: so it was good. It was good for the music.
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  Speaker 4: It was good for my soul, you know. I mean
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  Speaker 4: I needed that. I needed that. I needed somebody to
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  Speaker 4: poke me. I mean, so I could wake up and
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  Speaker 4: get back on my get back in my bag.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed like the media questioned you at one time
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  Speaker 2: about your role in dipsets and diplomatic How did that
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  Speaker 2: affect you?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Because I mean everybody who's in New York or around
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  Speaker 2: the country seen the war what your role was, or
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: thought what your role was.
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  Speaker 3: So how did how did you handle let How did
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  Speaker 3: that make you feel?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was crazy. When I woke up, so
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: was Chris. She was like, yo, listen, put your phone down,
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  Speaker 4: breathe for five minutes, internalize it, think about it, and
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  Speaker 4: don't overreact. It's what people want you to do. First off,
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  Speaker 4: and overreacted in the house, okay, And then I got
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  Speaker 4: over it, you know what I mean. I just thought
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  Speaker 4: about the playing feeling, what was really astakeing what we're
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  Speaker 4: doing here and things like that, and what people have
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  Speaker 4: in their favor and when it comes to the media
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  Speaker 4: and how these media games, and plus it's a playbook
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  Speaker 4: from our playbook that we created. You're not gonna trick
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  Speaker 4: me with a play that I've created. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 4: I know this play all right, cool, But as far
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  Speaker 4: as what people spewing and things like that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I got this thing you I mean a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I can't tell the truth you heard, and time don't lie,
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  Speaker 4: so everything we will reveal itself in time. But I
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  Speaker 4: do believe this is a story that everybody's known for
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  Speaker 4: so many years. The only people that don't really know
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  Speaker 4: the story are the New Millennials and Gen Z generation.
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  Speaker 4: But besides that, the hip hop culture know well. My
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: position is in a diplomass. But everything started from pretty
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: much my dynamic. And not to say it started like that,
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  Speaker 4: I mean when the success started. Everything came out of
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  Speaker 4: my grandmother house age. I mean, I wasn't I was it?
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  Speaker 4: You heard like if I was, I was the denominated
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  Speaker 4: in between everybody, Like if we didn't have that little
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  Speaker 4: stuff that I don't believe that they would have went
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  Speaker 4: in the direction they went. Not to say, and they
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  Speaker 4: wasn't rapping before I met them, Not to say, none
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  Speaker 4: of this type of shit. But all the things that
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: he was saying was pretty much foolish and shit like that.
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  Speaker 4: It's all jokes to me. But I do know what
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  Speaker 4: I what I've did. I think everybody know what I've did.
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  Speaker 4: I mean everybody who hallm knew me. My name is
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  Speaker 4: Joan way before my name was Jim Jones. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I really have a name of
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  Speaker 4: the I mean shouts, the Halem, shouts of my block, shots,
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  Speaker 4: the twelfth Street, shouts of the thirteenth Street, Lenox Side,
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  Speaker 4: Foster P's t peas, uptown, downtown, east Side, west side.
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  Speaker 4: You know how this thing goes.
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  Speaker 2: And I think another question people always ask, and as
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  Speaker 2: many years as I've we interviewed you, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: people ever know where was the I guess the breaking diplomats, right,
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  Speaker 2: because you guys were tight, Like, this wasn't just me
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  Speaker 2: doing this. Y'all were in the group. Y'all were family.
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  Speaker 2: This wasn't a rap group. Like there was Cam the rapper,
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  Speaker 2: Joel's the rapper and freaking and Jim was kind of,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, was the you know, the muscleman. They
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  Speaker 2: would have the duteman right, they would have wait to
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: make sure things happened. They were gonna make sure the
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: record got spun, they were gonna get the clearances, they
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: were gonna make sure everything was in order.
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: That's what that's how, that's what you see. But it
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: started from I, me and Cam being broken my grandmother
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: house with no money, heard having to hustle. You know,
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: I was in the streets. He was. I was figuring
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: out how to get to it. And he had his craft,
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: which was the music, and he ended up striking gold
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: with the craft. But it all started with us having
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: nothing happening to figure it out. Shot, it's the six
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: figured Digger. A lot of people don't mention his name,
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: but I don't think it'd be no diplomats without six
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: figured Digger. He was the uh first person that was
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: like he was the part of the original COOC. When
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: it came to Bloodshed, Cameron and six Figured Digger and
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: then R I P. Blood passed away. Cam had got
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: his first deal and six Figured Digga was his producer naturally,
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: and they got Platinum, Hiss together and things like that.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: And this separation was there was a separation with Cam
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: and him before there was any other separation between the diplomas,
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: before he got the deal. And that's a whole other
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: side of the story. When we were offered millions of
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: dollars at one label and somebody didn't take it because
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: power struggles, which I knew nothing about. I found this
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: out later on, and shit like that. That we could
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: all had way much more money at signing, But I
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: wasn't signed to the label in the beginning anyway. He
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: just gave me a check who was with signed. So
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: there's a whole lot of shit. But six Figure Digga
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: is a prominent piece to the whole Diplomat success. I
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: don't believe that none of us would be with Hi
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: as a diplomat if six figure wasn't inside of that
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: that that dynamic, and I do believe that people need
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: to sit down and interview him and get his view
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: on how everything goes. And I mean he's pretty successful.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: He ended up on platinum records fifty all types of people,
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: so he got a great catalog and stuff like that.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he's a very very prominent piece to this
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: whole story.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: When did the break? When did the er happened?
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Where I started splitting apart because I know everybody started
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: doing their own thing. You started doing music, You all
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: started doing music, and Cam started doing miss witted it
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: break where it seems like they can't come back together.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: M I did it.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: When I listen to the album, I hear you still
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: referencing as your brother, and you explain all of this,
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: you talk about the apartment, and you talk about bloodshed,
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: you talk about all of this on the album, But
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: it still seems like that's your that's your brother.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, once you got her brother, he's always your brother,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: no matter what I mean, Like, doesn't mean that you
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: got the same brotherly love that you wasn't mean that
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: you're going to hang out like brothers, Like I mean,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I know brothers that trying to kill each other, you
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: I think it's on make it out.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: You say, if so, if it is, what it is
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: is so be it, and I'm not sound number three
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: and then number four on Make It Out, you say
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: you talk about wanted to put it behind you brothers
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: and two brothers.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: That's lost.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: You didn't just say it is what it is, so
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: be it. It was more to it after that, I know.
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: But I just I specifically grab.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: That because to me, to me, put in their pears
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: and that star wars like the soul be it. So
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: don't be rushing for no repercussions. We got drums on
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: these machines like a beat production. It's just raps.
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: Sounded like to me, like you guys can make it
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: out of all this stuff. That's why I was bringing.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not concerned about that right now. I'm
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: concerned about this album dropping. I got other things going on.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I'm concerned about Jim Jones or what Jim Jones got
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: going on. I've done a lot for Diplomat's sake and
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: for the sake of the people and the fans and
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: all that, but nobody does a lot for me, you
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. And that's part of the problem here.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Nobody ever really pulled up for me on Jim Jones
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: need them to pull up, But I pulled up for everybody,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: so I got to pull up for myself, you know
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: what I mean? All of a rhetoric, I can't I
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: can't even hear no more. And that's why I stick
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: to what I know how to do. I mean like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I'm in the process of changing who of who I've
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: who I've always of people, of what people see me
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: to be in my past. And I'm enjoying this journey
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: that I'm going on. If not, I be out here
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: going crazy, I'll probably be in jail for crashing. All right. Now,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: last thing I crashed was a boat and Bahamas. To
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: my brother Ellie, you heard well, you.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Had a good line on the album man that to
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: speak to that you said, I'm paraphrase because I just
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: heard it. But it was like you said something situations
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: you had to mitigate so you don't end up having
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: to litigate. I feel like that's a ball for the
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: young boys.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah they don't even know what mitigate me. But being
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: gonna get into that. But yeah, I'm having a good
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: time with music. Man. I'm in a point where I
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: lived a lot of life. My vocabulary is very extensive.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I'm not I mean you did so,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: and I figured out my groove when it come to
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: doing music, like I got I figured out my craft.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I figured out who I am when any beat comes on,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: like I know what I can do, you know what
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I mean? And it feels good to be here because
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: it was it was a time when it wasn't that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: There was a time where this was just an absolutely
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: great hustle for me and I had to figure out
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: how to make some great music so I could make
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: some incredible money like everybody else was doing. And that
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: was like doing homework. That was the hardest thing for
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: me to do, you know what I mean. And now
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I encourage you like I can't wait. I mean, every
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: day ain't the best day, but for the most days,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I'm smoking issue and not going to booth.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: When you did the interview with with Justin Little Boy,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know you guys from.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Charls, the Just Shoulds, the Yeah I just left La
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: We just this is out there.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Talk about yea in a second?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Were you more hurt of what came out of that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: interview than anything else? As far as what I guess
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: you knew what when you said about cam I fifty
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: you knew he was gonna return return fire?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Were you more upset?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Do you ask me if that when when I didn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: start that? When niggas we talk about me is is
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: it's all funny games. And when I start talking my shit,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: it get serious like like no, like, I don't care
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: about none of them. Don't play with me. Bro, all
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: y'all do is play on the media. Don't play with me. Bro,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: you think that's the reason why you did, because y'all
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: can have I don't troll, I don't. I don't know
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: these imaginary people that get on my on my Instagram,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: and I don't do none of that. Bro. Y'all know
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: what's up. Bro. You can see me face to face.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: We meet in traffic anywady. You'll want to if that's
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: what you want to do, But I'm not into that.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: God bless y'all alone. You heard, leave me alone because
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: we all know you're getting nasty, you know, and nobody's
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: got out here, you heard.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: How do you feel when people call you the youngest
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: old nigga?
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. I'm still in the loop.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I'm accepted by the younger generation. That means my music
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: is moving, I mean my music is touching. Them. That
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: means my music resonates with them. You know how dope
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: that is for me to be in this game this
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: long and being able to make music that the youngsters
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: that wasn't around when I really was lit still admire
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: and want to know who this guy is. It's something
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: about that, you know what I mean. I don't see
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: too many people from my day doing anything like what
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I'm doing right now. If they all count them out,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: call them out to make it cool, call them out.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I want to see how many they.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Are to chain push your talking about New York.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: You did, I'm from New York. We're talking about.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe fab active enough. I like hearing them on gymum,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: but it's not active right now.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, let's let's chat about it like currently right
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: it was the youngsters they.
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, Like when I go out, I'm.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Anomaly in my position, especially from New York's skype, you
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, And just watching the landscape of
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the music that's going on right now. For me to
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: be doing what I'm doing right now in these streets,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: and then I try to state area with the music
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: it hasn't been seen before.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: That's true right now, now that's definitely true.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: And I think during the time where so many people
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: have so much conversation about New York sound and what
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: it should be like the way that you did this
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: even Okay, so you have like classic Jim Jones fill
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: on here, but then you also got like the rail
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Rays skate Like a lot of people like I understand
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: that you having real ray On here and doing that,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: but they probably even know what I'm talking about, you
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, stuff like that.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: That's the beauty of like so I love the influences.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I have something called IFC, the Influencer Club just for
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: that reason, because I know that these kids no more
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: about their phone, they't no TV. They know these influences
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: on Instagram way more than you no actors on television
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: and things like that. And this is what made like
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: damn people like Ray Ray and so many others that
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I deal with, you know. I mean Mr Comodo is
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: a bunch of them like that. I put all of
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: them in the movie. So with the album, also have
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: a movie at the church steps that we filmed the
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: movie at Saint Joseph on twenty fifth Street in Harlem.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: We had Fast Stacey, we had Ray Ray, we had
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: mister Commodore, we had Swaggy, who else we got on
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: everybody in there, right, So it's just like Patos in
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the movie. It was a beautiful movie. But I know
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: that it's gonna really, it's gonna hit hard because I
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: know everybody loved these these influences and me thinking like
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: when when I saw Friday, we didn't know who none
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: of those comedians was, but it ended up being one
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: of the movies that we all love. So making a
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: movie with that in mind, shouts to everybody that played
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the part of making this movie. Shouts to will see you,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: a whole director team, and things like that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Also mentioned Kanye flew out to China to see Kanye
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I was in Japan. That was Japan.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: That was dope. That was dope. That was pre what
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: everybody else saw, but that was dope just to be And.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: He reached out to you said, come on out out
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: of that had I.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Was justin and I put that together and things like that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, they said you should pull up man,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: pull up to Japan. I'm like, huh, pull up to
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Japan is different, bro, But you're not saying like that's Brooklyn,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Like Yo, But it was dope. It was a dope
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: experience to see and work to see the genu c
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: is on getting to understand them more and things like that.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean. We all have friends that
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is, But he's definitely a dope soul man.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I believe that he's misunderstood in a lot of ways,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: and I believe that he does things for people to
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: misunderstand them and things like that. But I kind of understanding.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: But he's definitely dope. He's definitely a hood ass nigga
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: underneath all of that, you know what I mean. That's
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: what That's what I said.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Did you give the diplomat?
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely has that's his shame. Yeah, that's his you
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: know Dipinitely, Yeah, you're heard. That's what that's my dope.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Did he ask you for what you said?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Yo? This is well as you see in the footage
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: if you've seen the footage that and I had everything later,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Like first of all, he asked me to bring I
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: bring like four or five suitcases of this drip, you
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like so even want me to
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: help him with his fashion, with his brand and things
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: like that. So that was what the whole thing for
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: me going to Japan was and things like that. I forgot.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Somebody the jewelry in the gyp and all that.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so he went through the jewelry ticket and
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: he didn't take it off, so naturally I was like, man,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you hold on to that. He was like, what you mean?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: He said, you know, he said that was dope. Man.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Shout out to him, incredible dude. Though I was doing
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: some music with him yesterday, he'd let's let him listen
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: to my album. He started breaking records down, like you
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: need to do that, and I'm like, yo, bro, my
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: al won't come out Friday. I won't come out Friday.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I chaned up full it there, like I don't have
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you dig like I. But it's dope, so you can
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: go moving forward. We definitely gonna make some dope best
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: records and things like that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Man Jones fashion line is something coming.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, I've been helping them with with with
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: with with the with the Yeezy brand. It's pretty dope.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: We got a bunch of things going on with that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I'm excited about that. You know, fashionist fashion is one
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: of my things, getting freshest one of my things. So
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: giving me the opportunity to express myself in that field.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: I think it's pretty big, you know, I mean from
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: a business perspective, you know you're putting if you put
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: time into that, you put energy into that, doing some
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: of his antics effective business.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Won't you tell them I'm a partner with you. You
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: gotta slow down.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not a partner of his, you know what I mean,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Like he owns his brands and things like that. I'm
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: just helping and learning and with the things that he
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: needs help with. But I can't say this, man. We
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: all have friends that do well. I have friends that
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: do things that I don't necessarily agree with that they're doing,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: but that don't make them not my friend. You heard,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: These are still my niggas no matter what goes on.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying anything about anybody. I'm just saying
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: in life, you know what I mean, period and ship
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: like that. You know what I mean. I don't get
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: in certain people business.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: But if you my dog, you're just not wearing a
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: swastick a T shirt.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, I ain't getting in none of that. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: don't do politics, even vote he and I have nothing
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: against whoever is the president. Whoever the president, I feel
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: should be get that much respect because they are the president.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: I'm from the Reagan area and he was proud to
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: have whatever president. He's the president. I mean, and nowadays,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: I say, a big divide with these politics with it's
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: almost crazy how aggressive everything become, like they want you
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: to just be like if the president, like how he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: still a president. Where is the respect in this country
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: when it comes to certain things, you know what I mean?
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: So it's just and let me shut up for they
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: start bombing. I know they about to go crazy on me.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Got the red hat on this is uh read it? Yeah?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: You heard. That's all this is about. You heard, is not.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I don't got no political endeavors. You heard. You know
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: what I'm about about community. I do all my politicans
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: political things is for my community. I do everything to
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: help hallm whatever I can do in my power, you
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think you get enough credit for that. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: see you out there, you know at the Boy and
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: the Girls Club. I see you out there in Hall
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: and giving our clothes to the kids like you.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Do that a lot all the time.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, shouts to my people. That's my community. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: people always ask why I'm there. I definitely not there
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: to show off or or look down on anybody and
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: things like that. I am there as to be a
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: bit of inspiration for these kids to see somebody that
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: came up out of the same circumstances that they did
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: and they was able to figure out how to get
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: out the matrix. So me being there as like a
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: beam of shining light, you know what I mean. That's
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: how I feel about it, and things like that. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep shining my light on my people and
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: things like that. I mean, but certain people they have this.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: I mean for me, it's like I have a mission.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, God put us here to do certain things,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: and I do believe this is one of the things
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: that he put me here to do, is to help people,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And til I figure out
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: how to help more people, I'm gonna help the people
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I can. And that's my community.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: That was another thing I guess when people would try
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to say, you're not from Harlem, You're from the Bronx.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: You're from the Bronx. I think you cleared it up
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: in Yoma.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but who cares. I'm from New York City. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: really been in the turf been in the field I
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: come from, you know what I mean, Like you know
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: what I escaped to be worried about the rhetoric that
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: and I was caught up in the min like I'm not.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I had to think about it, Like bro I didn't
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: live in Harlem, i'd've lived in Queens. I didn't lived
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: in Brooklyn, I'd have lived in Like I don't lived
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: in the whole city. I mean, like I didn't lived
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: in a rub where I lived from a lot of places.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: You heard it ain't where you're from, is where you're at,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: And I get to the chicken wherever I'm at.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: You heard what's wrong with Staten Island though, because Very
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: Ray was coming, They're.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Gonna definitely gonna jump. I said, I ain't gonna lie.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: We'll take him like jump you like like ghost Face
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: might see you and put them ghost face killers on
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: your talking bad about stant now shotsa state Loune Shostah Liddy.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I have an artist out there in Staten Island, man Shosta,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: my dude, little man or man. Yeah, in the building.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: You've always moved very militant. But you know you you don't.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: You keep the street life the street life, and you
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: keep the rap life, the rap like.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: But on this album you included some court recordings about
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: the male Matrix situation.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Why why was that?
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Oh no Shasta Melli free Melly to listen reverse Man,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: it's my brothers, my heart and my soul. Man. I
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: really love and respect that man. Man. I mean for
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: numerous amounts of reasons, not just the obvious that people
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: knowing things like that, like he's a man, he's the
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: ten toes down along with Shoddy Long Will Halve, along
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: with all the others that got faded to somebody not
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: playing the game right and things like that. You know
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: what I mean? When I see that, I gotta tip
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: my hat to them every time. There's probably so many
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: other things they could have did in the situations, but
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: they decided to stay there like gangsters, do you know
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: what I mean? So I definitely gotta shout that out.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: You her back to back lotty I lot Yo to death.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: But those are actually the real recordings from the actual
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: transcript of what Mel Murder was going to call for.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: And let's keep it clear, Mel murder case has nothing
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: to do with the non trade case that shoting. Everybody
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: got locked up for Mel murders locked up for heroin
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: and fanandel charge because he was getting some money out
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: here and things like that, and he was getting money
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: with a person that wasn't right. And these are actually
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: recordings from the transcript that he was going to call
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: and what they was asking the DA was asking questions
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: to whoever and things like that, and you know, I
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: just wanted to put it out there, and you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: it's my dog and things like that. I just wanted
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: to show people things that as a black man, that
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: we go through to try to make it through society,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: and you be in this rap game, how sensitive things
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: could be in it's crazy. I give a lot of
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: great advice and sometimes I hardly take my own advice.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: So when people hear that conversation, it's like yo, I
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: tell people stay up their phones all the time, and
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: look what happened. I mean, the same thing came back
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to me on the ass and things like that, and
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: that could have caused me a whole lot. But regardless,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: good I got some good brothers around me. That's their
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: ten toes down. You heard. So long as I'm out
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: there out you heard, and it's freehm to we see
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: him and he'd be home in a little while.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: For real, I guess that's when I'm after you.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Weren't you not running from the affiliation, even though we're
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: in an error where people getting jammed up.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: For shit like that, jammed up if you're doing crime, Yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: you're heard. It's not a crown to be a blood.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: It's not a crime to your bling. It's not a crime.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: It's not kind to be a fraternity member. It's not
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: a crime to be a celebrity member. It's all the
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: same thing. It's a crime if you do crime while
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: being that, and that turns into other things. And if
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: it's more than one of y'all doing crime while being blood,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: that turns into rico and things like that. I do business.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I'm a businessman. You heard y'all know that. You always music, baby,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: I always want to.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Ask, right, you know, in passing interviews, and you talk
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: about it bringing blood to New York.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: You ever regret that I didn't bring the blood to
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: New York? God here you got here, no crime.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: And he said, actually, he said he made he made
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: it properly. That's I was asking. That's a different.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Commercializing there you go commercializing my gang.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: You're saying a question now because you made it cool,
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: was what he's saying.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I made it cool, but I also commercialized. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: made millions of dollars off the gang culture, you know
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: what I mean. So same thing with Snoopez done and
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: how the West Coast. I mean, so it was, but
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I know I did not I did. I thought that
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I was a young kid commercialized coming upbout the ghetto.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: You mean looking for I mean my place in society
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: and things like that, in the brotherhood or it took
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: care of me and that you did shouts to the
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: brothers man, you know what I mean.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: But do you regret it because it was you commercialized it,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: you made it cool in you Do.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I regret anything? No, I don't, because I've done so
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: many positive things being in this position, as being a man,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: as being a gang member, as being a father, as
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: being all these things you did. If I didn't have
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: this platform, people would never know how great some of
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: these people can be. Because I've put on a lot
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: of people that people bloods, and I put all types
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: of people in positions to make money and feed their
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: family and things like that, and employ so many people
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: and show so many people how to walk in the
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: right direction, and things like that and understand it's a
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: thin line between crashing out and and you ask anybody,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, anyone that's around me, You ask them, what
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: if I ever encouraged them to do anything wrong? You
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? My objective is about getting a
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: dollar each one. Teacher, wie, we stay tight, the walls up,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: care nobody fads, I stay. Let's protect ourself, you know
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: what I mean. Of course, with somebody across the line
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: of the discretion. As a man, you have to protect yourself.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: But for the most part, that's not my lesson. It's
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: not violence, you know what I mean at all. But
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: in this rap game, we've used violence to make a
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: lot of money. And that's what these labels egg us
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: on to do. You know what I mean. We see
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: the money, and we think about the money more than
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: anything else. And it's so easy for us to get
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: caught up in that rabbit hole for so many of us,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: and things like that. Just talk about things that we
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: actually went through, you know what I mean. For some
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: of us, A lot of us are just you know
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: But how man you rap about the labels having I
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: don't say a certain responsibility, but I guess it's certain
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: responsibility when you when you saw Leo's comments that he
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: made up here a long what he said, he basically
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: just was like he got.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: To eat too.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: What he said he said what he says, you got
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: to eat too, you know, in regards to you know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: people pushing the drug culture, the gang culture.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: What I mean, bro, nobody's twisting nobody's hand to do anything.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: You heard, this is this is this is entertainment business. Leo.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I've learned a lot of lessons from him. I don't
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: agree with I don't agree with everything that a lot
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: of people doing things like that, but he was one
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: of the first people that gave me a position to
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: be one of the biggest executives in the game at Want,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: the music group. So I really ain't got too much
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: bad to say about them. I more have something to
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: say about myself by letting people like dam And and
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Killer tricked me out of them positions when I had
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: them power, by making me feel less than when they
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: would see me inside of them office, like oh you're
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: working for these niggas. Oh you would you do? Boy?
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Oh you are so you ain't no boss or boss,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: don't work for nobody, But not understanding my position, how power,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: how much power I had to I could move, and
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean in this game, you know
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: what I mean. And it was things like that that
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: always kind of you know, I mean, so it was
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: a lot too. It th ship like that, but sholt
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the leon them, man, you know what I mean, Like
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I ain't got no but nothing bad but say about
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you on.
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: The label stuff.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: I was watching another interview and you were talking about
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: you're trying to get your master's back right now.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm attempting to get my master's back.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: And so there because you said y'all were independent, but
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: y'all weren't independent.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: You weren't independent. Was an independent label? You want telling
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: them what the independent label means? Or should I tell
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: you it wasn't. There wasn't a major label, two different
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: type of labels. There wasn't a major label, you know
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: what I mean. So we signed to an independent label.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: We signed to a label. We got a real label deal.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: But we was making so much money and the war
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: independent was so alarmed and things like that. They made
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: it fit we It felt like we signed, but that's
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: what not really what we signed and things like that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: It wasn't the independency of you see slim Thug in
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: uh Houston had when he was out the truck, and
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: it wasn't It wasn't that, you know what I mean,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: It wasn't that at all. We might have thought it
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: was that because we were getting so much money, but
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: in that in that circle, I ended up signing the
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: deal from our solo album on which I was happy for,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: but me still running through the street the way I
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: was and entrusting my career business sense with my partner.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I just wasn't into reading the contracts or understanding the
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: business of it, because you know how how I felt,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: we was moving and ship like that and don't own
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: the life. When people start selling their catalogs and doing
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: all this shit getting the bag, I got a real catalog.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Let's not get to that too. So when people are
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: buying these masters and things like that, like I was like, oh,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I could catch a busy off it. I might make
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: my exit off of this, and then trying to get
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: that together and somebody WHOA, You're like, bro, you don't
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: own your masters? Bro for life life?
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: What year was that that you found that out?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Because four or five years ago, Wow, who owns them?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: My heart just dropped yes cam to just no, just catch.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I signed my rights to my masters over the cotch
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: for the life term and ship like that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Is the president Alison there because you out of this
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: not even called of it right now?
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Who more? But so you don't even got a building
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: to run up and there's a building he I gotta
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I got a VL deal with a pace up the
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: album comes out next month that we signed up there
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: and things like that. So but then don't got nothing
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: to do with I saw back then, but you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: legally and my lawyers starting to make calls and see
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: what could be.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: You know, I done.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: You didn't mention something I want to talk about because
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: this has been a conversation for ten years, right you
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: just mentioned he said that they tricked you out.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Of it because they said bosses don't work for people.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Right, And that's a conversation our community has. But I've
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: been and I think Charloman have been trying to say
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: for a long time you could be a boss and
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: have a job but still do your thing on the side.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Period is that's the whole permaniship of how they make
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: you feel in certain situations and things like that. You
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: got to know me from Harlem, and everybody got to
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: weigh at certain people. I mean, but I knew better
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: than that. So I pretty much tricked myself out of
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: my own position. By I mean, I stand in ten
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: toes on what I believe because I knew what I
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: was there for. I knew what I could do inside
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: of them buildings. I knew how ill I was and
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: what I've done so far for diplomats by pitying this
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: aesthetic and letting people see us in a way as superheroes.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Like what I could do that for so many other artists,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: which I have. That's why I was able to get
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: that job in there, because they was paying me a
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: consultant fee at death Jam. You know, I was making
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: like two hundred thousand dollars a year at Depth Jam
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: as a consultant. And then when they left Deaf Jam
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: and went to Warner, it was like pull up. I
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: thought they were trying to give me a record deal.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: They was like, nah, we want you to be executive
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: over here. Matter of fact, you run everything. So like
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: people like uh, Joey II and Tom Mosk was all
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: worked for me. They worked under me, like I was
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: above all of them. The only person that had to
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: talk to was Kevin Leows and Leo Cohen, Like, yeah, and.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: How did that deal matter?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: That makes so much sense for you?
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: It's smart as you think about how you did video
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: you used to direct the videos when you do music
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: now like that makes so much.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: And through my loyalty, I was impressionable too, so when
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I was hearing things like that made me very rebellious
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: aside them off of spaces and other I mean, but
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I definitely had to know how and the smarts to
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: do the job. That was easy for me, you know
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: what I mean? Or great great great experience though great
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: experience the ASAP M. That's what he started as an
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: intern for me, right loyal Carol Sibyl to I mean Karen,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: she was also turn for me. I've helped help jump
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: start a lot of Cariz not only wrap Carierz inside
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: of this industry.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: But you don't get no credit for that, they say,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: they say, all send people to jail.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: I don't want credit no more. I want debbit cash
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: me out. How I send people to jail? That's what
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Wow, who did you see me sending to jail?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Where is he? Nigga smoking they're smoking new drugs out here.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: You heard from where to how Who?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: That's what can said.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know it's a bird. He's a bird. Hed
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: he don't want no smoke, telling him set to her
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: boxer right, our boxes head off? Where's the ring at?
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: You're getting money? Right, y'all? Do sports ten million right
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: now today, nigga. I'll catch a flight wherever you at
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: in the morning, I'll catch a flight wherever you at.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: You would make Wether and them ten million. I meet
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: you in any boxing ring. Yeah, Now go make some
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: jokes about that on your next show. I box your
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: head off. You know that. Don't play with me? Yeah,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: now go type about that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Jim Chrisy would tell you take five second, christ five seconds.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And not act like.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Second.
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: You've got time to make anything.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Christy would.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: We're gonna bring it back. You know, all Jesus Disciples
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: was gangsters though, right, Jesus flip table and I am
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: a disciple.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Remember that you did tell us about some of your
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: new artists.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Man like you see in song, he's on like he's
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: on a few songs, white lines call on me.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Been out here doing this thing for a minute though,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I've been knowing Pacier for almost ten years now.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Damn, I just remember pac did the story to cut
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: you off.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Pace did the last record fat Man School before he passed.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, damn God arrested.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: He got a little bit of pun in him.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: He got a little bit a lot of talking about
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: he talented me. He got a lot of different ways
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: of doing music, from rapping to having the harmony like
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I got no harmony in me.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Before I knew who it was. Like the name, I
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: thought it was kind of like a little a buggy.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: I didn't know when I first heard it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, it's I mean, it's pay so but yeah,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: but I'm.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: Saying when I didn't know who you were.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: But nice to meet you.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: But go ahead now, Suster king King streets, hands down,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: ball for ball. I think that he'll smoke anybody in
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: the in the streets boots period. And I put the
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: money at the house and everything right now, they'll cold
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: meet me tomorrow also at the boxing match, if you'll
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: want to with the bag and we have kan alight,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I'm being petty. I got to. I got to man,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: it's entertaining right when they entertained, It's all it's all funny. Games.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I'm entertaining them. My album come out on Friday.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I'm coming out.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: That is what's up? My album come out on Friday.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to clear up everything I hurt.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So look, does that really sell records?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Though?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Because you know they always hit. We always hear the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: story about Jim wanted to fake a beef.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: They say faking. I will box your head off tomorrow
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: when you wake up. If you want from ten million,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: you heard and we got it the cover too. Jack,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: What does freak saying? What is freaky you say? I
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: don't know. Freak freak bugging me out right now? You
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: heard freaking a crazy position right now. But I want
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: him to get his money and do whatever business moves
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: he need to do. You did, That's the way, maryor freak.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: He always gonna be my brother for life, No freak
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: for a very long.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Time when you're wearing the hat. And that's what we
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: all wanted to coach you too, like make yeah, make
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: dips that great again, like.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: I'm doing that. I've been doing that. You heard, got
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: some fire records out every time and see me it's dipset.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: You heard Big Jomo in the building. You heard everybody
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: want to make Dipsa great tell him to make Dipsad
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: great again. I always show up for everything all it
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: shows everything. Whenever it's diplomata, something there, you heard. Whenever
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: you talk about diplomats, something there. For the last ten years,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: when you say diplomats, who pop out? Who's been there?
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Who's been keeping a bird in the sky? Anytime you're
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: seeing the diplomat reunion, who's the reason for the diplomat
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: reunion happen? And you better do the research. It's always
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: been me you heard, and a lot of times that
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: has stopped me from the motion that I had instead
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: of me continue I gotta worry about me right now.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: After the last after the verses reunion, I feel like
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: we I thought that everything was like good and then
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: it got like randomly just got like Rocky again, Like where.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Does that verses? Weak man? Man? Because he got booed
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: and we lost man, Just tell the truth.
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: That's what you fell out about again. It's not that
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: it can't be that. No, that was a joke.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: He got booed, he forgot his free Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying because when we were up here trying
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: to figure out like what reignited all of the whatever
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: this is, we remember that like it was after the verses.
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: It can't just be that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I don't care about done. You heard. That's the difference
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: between me. I don't take none of the shit personal, bro.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I could take loss of walk off and laugh at it.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna still go home to the house that I
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: live in and love life. You heard. Like people take
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: things too literal, like these people getting this rap game
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: and be mad that they didn't have the number one
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: album them. They want to cut their riskin all. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: don't care about none of that. Shout out to Jada
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: and them. They was on top of the game. They
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: knew what they came to do. You know, he was ready,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: you did us not so much us not so much ready,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: But you know you want something you lose them. But
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: what's up? Who want to do it versus with me?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Right now? Yeah? That'd be a good good Who would
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: you want to do it versus against any one of them?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Pull it up New York. I love all my brothers
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: in New York, but you can pull them up no
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: matter who it is. Who would you say? Who you here?
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I got a real catalog. I just had a gold
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: record last year. I mean, I mean we could go back.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I got twenty records for every year. We can start
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: from twenty years ago. I gave him one record for
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: each year all the way up to now.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Coppo versus Styles p He don't got enough catalog for that.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: I've got a lot of catalog, not.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Not a commercial catalog. He's not going, He's not going,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: He's not gonna last. I mean, I love Styles did
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: set it up.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: If it depends, what if it's just solo records, that'd
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: be a good one for y'all.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I got more solo records than most of them that
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: really remember that you did, like, I got a lot
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: of gold singles and a lot of I got some
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: action with me. It's gonna be hard for a lot
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: of people from New York who win with Capito and
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I got freestyles I could, I could I have in
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: New York City. It's gonna be hard. I would say
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: that for anybody you know on the record.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Sounds like he wanted to do with fifty That's what
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: it sounds.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: That sounds like you don't want to do nothing with
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: that sucker. You're me leave him out of the conversation
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: on purpose. They did.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: New York and that's the only one that has a
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: He was thinking, and I just didn't want to say
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: it because you got catalog. There's no because when I
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: when you said think about it, I'm trying to think
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: who else, even just commercially would have a big enough,
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: big enough songs consistently to even But you know it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Has Platinum Records, Gold Records, Number one records. It's not
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: too many in New York.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Listen after Church Steps Man.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: No, No, that whole a whole got that type of catalog.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Now it's got the type of artists like that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: No, but they I feel like even like you would
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: have to bring it super.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Great you can't do because you talked about.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Right there say nope, nope. Anybody else but you gonna
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: hope is you can't. One thing we're not gonna do
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: is front of the hole. He did what he's supposed
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: to out here, Like it's going to be very hard
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: for anybody to beat him in some type of verses.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody can.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Who who's the lineup? You know, I love Drizzy, you did,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: but a versus gonna be, it's gonna be. There's a
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: lot of variables to that that's a dog fight, you
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. But as far as I'm concerned
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: you right now, and well, man, I would do I'm
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: saying I want to do it. But that was that
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: was the play that Swiss felt like he had a bag.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I need triple what I had last time to where
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: we put that verses on fire too. We had that
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: thing looking like a championship game. Yes, Swiss, holl that man.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: You backdoored me and gave that man some business that
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: you ain't give all of us. You definitely gotta give
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: me triple Swiss, and you gotta give me some real
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: business this time. See that's the funny thing about this game.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: You heard, like y'all don't talk about the back door
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: and that's going on for the verses that anybody keep killing.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: But well, yeah, yeah, I wanted to bag, you heard,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: But we got the bag. But boy still went back door,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: like yo, for us for me to do the verses,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: you got to give me part of this business that
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: had nothing to do with us, you heard. But he say,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: that's me being a business man now as you being
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: a sucker doing back door shit. You hurt, But nobody
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: won't talk about that. I know, I ain't no back
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: door ass nigga. You heard, I stand on ten do's
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: and I break bread with my niggas period. That's always
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: who I've been. Who are not her? Has never been
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: an artist that took advantage of you heard. I really
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: put money in all of my artists pocket that I
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: deal with, and all my niggas we get money together.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Not one of them type of dudes. Bro.
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: You heard when you went the camp about that. He
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: said that, like it's just me being a businessman.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: No, Swiss told me how to tell Swiss. I know
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: what was going on. Jack, call Swiss on the line.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: They tell you I did bad. You know, Swiss, my
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: brother zones zone zone with something I'm not talking about.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about actual factual.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: How did you find out about it then?
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Because I found out about a lot. Yeah, that didn't
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: don't matter. What the matter is is. I got to
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: the bottom of it to see if it was true.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Course Swiss. Yeah, but that's the ship that we deal with,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: you heard, that's the ship that people don't know about
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: when they be looking at me like I'm bugging out,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: I'm bugging out. We can go down the list. When
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I got time for that.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: You talk about that a lot getting back door A
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: lot paused with with who.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Let's get the back door word out? Said that word?
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: I know, Mann, we take it back, give me racing ship,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: all right? Come on.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: So the reason I asked that, it's like, if that's
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: happened a couple of times, pause, why not stop it
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: from the door?
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Like I can never do business with them again because
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: they keep doing it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: It's like first time you got me, second time, third
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: time you say multiple times, it's like, fuck.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, you did what you deal with. Bro You
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: heard my lord t goes way be yond. That's a
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: lot you did.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: As long as you stopped as an hours, it's still there.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I'm loyal to the bird. I'm loyal to the bird.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Anybody lottal to the bird that we fly high. You
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: heard you ain't loyal to the bird. We gonna clip
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: your ways. You heard You're gonna be there and there
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: like a pigeon. Niggas New York City nigga, what's up? Serious?
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: I'm serious about that bird. I put my life in
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: my heart into it. Broa put my life on the
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: line about that bird. People playing with and things like that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: It's never been about money for me been about the unity.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: You've been about the family, You've been about what we
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: could build together. I'm not perfect at all, but I'm
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: the perfect example of what you could be by staying down.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: And that's what I did, no matter what we all
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: go through. What we go through, you heard, but above all,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I stayed there for that bird, as I'm still doing now.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I criticized that on a.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Call on me.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: You talk about a conversation you had with Puff right
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: before they sent them to get him, Like, what was
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: that last conversation?
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: That's the big bro. It was a great time.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: I mean you said you asked him bout his rich friends.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Now the acting like he did to him. But when
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: that loyalty get molded, you can see what the bread
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: with the bread wants with the bread ruins with bread ruins.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when that little to get moldy, I mean,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I don't get into nobody Bennessy, that's
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: the d man. He's did a lot for the game.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I don't want to get into all that. But he
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: did come up till the day before they came and
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: got him, and he set uptown with me for five
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: or six hours right on Lennox five said he felt
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: like he was in Caprix on the yacht. Just the
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: freedom of being uptanning and no judgment is on in
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: the middle of a hood where we don't judge because
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: people going through their own shit up here, you know
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: what I mean. So there's some normalcy in there for
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: him and things like that, and he just sat down
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: and enjoyed hisself. He had a good conversation with me.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: I had a good conversation with him, uplifting conversation and
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: spiritual conversation, you know what I mean. I know Diddy
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: for half half my life and things like that. Always
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: been big brother. And I know he's going through a
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: lot right now, you know what I mean. So I
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: do wish him the best. I don't want nobody come
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: down to me, try to cancel me all this. I mean,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: I ain't with none of that. Brother, God bless you, bro,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: What was it about that moment that made you want
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: to put it down on paper on the recording?
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Just living life? And the record came on, Pat did
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: the hook, and that's where we was at with it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: I just did it the same night, you know what
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, or the next night, whatever it was. It
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: was still on my mind. It was heavy on my heart.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, the best way for me to express I'm
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: going through is usually through the music, and I don't
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: want to touch too much on it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: But you know, I mean when he got picked up
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: the next day, you remember, do you like, oh ship
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: like just with him yesterday?
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, like that shouts today, prob let's get
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: his sons. Yeah to the next man shouts to them.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, Christian got a dope record together.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Too, Man or Christian? What do you want to have
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: the album?
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: What I want to hear off the album?
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: The label will say the single, but you are the label.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: But what do you want to hear besides that?
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: It's either gonna be make It Out or Genesis.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. I thought that was Tory Lanez
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: gonna make it up.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: That's Ronnie, that's a young Bird's cousin also in his artist.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I mean, I'm looking at the track, Lis.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: I just heard that Jackson m r K Monarch, Monarch,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: that's the name of that's the new Cosch probably forgetting
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: your name, but that's the new Cosch. Monarch has brought
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Cotch out and things like that. But so it's like
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Genesis is the number two record or bigger play make
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: it Out? So which which one you want to hear?
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm for radio ers? Do make it out?
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: For radio?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I like Genesis, Genesis hard.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Let's do make it out.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: We do Joe Mo and make it out.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Joe won't make it I love Joe Moon. That's a
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: great record. Man, got a lot of bop to it.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: Good music music when you get I mean mirror music
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: when you're getting dressed. You shot the video twice for that.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Oh no. I shot the video in La when I
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: was in La, and then I came back and I
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: shot the video here, and then I was just shooting
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: like little clips. So I was shooting all the other videos.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Because you did.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: You made me upset with that one, right because you
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: put it out. Then I couldn't get it right. Then
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you put the video out, so I ripped it off
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: the video and then you put the video down.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because that was that was so I was making
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: doing these little clips. Now these kids do these little
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: promo clips for ig and somebody actually put it up
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: as a video like nah, bro, take that down. That's
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: not the real video. So we had to put it
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: put video.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you one that course, and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: could love trick you off the street?
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: Gym?
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: And that's what I mean by that.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: I feel like there's nothing any stranger could ever say
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: to you to make you do anything at this point
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: in your life. But the people you've actually loved and
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: rolled for and been loyal to could.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Trick you off the street. Loyalty could trick you off
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: the street, definitely. And it's almost tricked me off the
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: street a few times in the midst of my journey
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: by being loyal to a floor. Love is crazy thing,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: and it depends on what type of love you're talking about. Uh,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: love could fuck up your emotion if you're not disciplined
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: in the household and know that you have a job
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: to do, especially and at a job like we have,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: it's not easy getting up and leaving the house and
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: not home as much as you need to be, and
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I mean not spending the time you need to be
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: and things like that. But you know this is something
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: a mission that you have to accomplish else your family can't.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, so it gets tricky. At that time, you
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: start to feel bad and you start to feel all
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: type you know what I mean, but you gotta stay
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: in your dean. Man. It's gonna be cold out here,
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: so you gotta get that bag. Man. I mean, the
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: family is gonna be there when you get back, and
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: you gotta figure out how to make time for the
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: ones you love. Also, you know what I mean. So
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: there's a balance.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: You know that Cam calls you to day and can says, look, man,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: we're better than this. Let's let's let's let'st.
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: Breath.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: This is you and you and Cam. He called you
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and said, yoh, we better than this.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm pettied in this. Hey, I'm taking a petty
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: right now. I just don't have no conversation with nobody.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Worry about Dromo. Bro, It's nothing to worry about the
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: moment to talk about, bro, unless you want to box
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: for that ten million, because I could use ten million.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: None to talk about, Bro, I don't want to talk
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: about nothing. Bro. It's none to talk about, not right now.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: I just say, for life is right now. I don't
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: have nothing to talk about. I got other things that
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: I'm doing. I got businesses that I'm attended to. They
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: getting their money. I'm getting my money too. Heard I'm
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: doing I'm doing pretty good out here with man Slow
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: were doing okay, baby. I'm not to say it like that,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: but you know, just but I got a lot of
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: things that I'm doing, and I got no time to
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: be interrupted my time or my or my mental space
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: to deal with anything but what I got going on,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: because that might take away and that might start making
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: me crashing for doing things that I'm not supposed to
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: be doing.
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, people have people tried to put y'all on
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: the phone since all of it? Nah, nobody Nah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: The only reason I say that because life is short,
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: and you know, you see people at funerals now and
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: you're like, damn, what they cool is just the first
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: time that they've seen each other since he passed, Like,
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: I pop.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Out to his FUNERALO God.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Damn, you set yourself up to that. You said right now,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe next year he feel differently saying, God.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Forbid, I'm gonna pop out to the funeral if that's
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: the case. You did so. I got love for him.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna miss that, heard, but right now, I
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna miss my opportunity to get into this motion
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: that I got going on. Album. On Friday, we got
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: a movie coming out next month at the church steps.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: So I said, all the people that's in the movie
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: had a good time with that one. You did, like,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to stay down this line tunnel vision
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: you heard, like we all seen a different aside of
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: me where you know what I mean, Like, let me
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: stay here, you heard, Let me stay out of these
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: people way you heard. Let me keep doing my music.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Let me just keep doing the things that got me
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: feeling good, looking good, and things that people respected me for,
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: not entertaining any bullshit. Let me stay here.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: You're still doing the sobriety thing. What you mean, just
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: because you had to yea happy in those videos too?
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So I would say this, I mean,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: of course you can. You can find smoke anywhere, but
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: the consequences for smoking in Japan are very dear not
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: to saying I wouldn't saying. So I think about this now,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: I get some garbage smoke out there, and smoking in
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Japan end up getting in trouble for smoking some garbage.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I'm double mad smoked some weak ass Japan with but
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: I had a great time. But it was funny. So
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: I smoked. So much of my life me is being
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: sober turned into a high like I was now like this.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: After the second day, I was chasing that that feeling
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: like I was like, yo, it just felt I was
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: like dancing. I'm like, you know, it was just a
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: whole different energy. I was like, Yo, this is way crazy.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: So I respected the being sober for a week and
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: for a week so he's no. But since I've came back,
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: I've smokeing tremendously less. Since I came back, Like I smoked,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: I've smoked out of my time. But I find myself
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: smoking two to three blunts a day, and anybody that
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: knows me, you know, that's like, damn it, not even smoking,
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And hopefully I phase out
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: of that too. That the back was not good for me.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: I'm getting a little bit older, things changing for me.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like to stay healthy. Being in shape
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: is like a form of the fountain of youth for me,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I'm trying. I'm trying to live forever,
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: be the first one.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: Too and my last one before you get out of here.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Why does it Internet always trying to break you in?
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: Christy up, like the way.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: You're talking about her baby right now? According to that,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I got married. I got married the other month to
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: somebody else, which was crazy straight out the blue, like
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: then now we got a baby. I don't know. You know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: we all the media don't get to us, man, Like
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: you tell yourself. It's a shock value. I mean when
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: sometimes you hear something out of the blue, you're like, no,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: they tripping.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: But most part, are you ever be having to tell
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: her put your phone down breed where you pick your
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: phone back up like she did for you or does
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: for you?
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: I have to tell her that in a lot of
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: other situations she don't really engage on ILG like that.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: I mean more or less. I'm more the one that
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: they're talking about on ILG or whatever. But other situations
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: she could be hot as people seeing her to be.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: But she's definitely a dope.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: Wa this generation, No Christy can fight. This generation don't
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: really know Gym can fight. They've seen Christy in action.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: On TV.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's try that one. Please. I ain't got no
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: fight of me, so please, it's gonna get scary. Let's
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: let's let's just I mean, let's let's keep me, keep
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: me wear man. I don't I don't want to do
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: nothing aggressive, man, I want to just get this money.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: I want to stay down the line. This is entertainment.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Anything you heard today it was all alleged nothing, you know.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just me goofing off having fun. But
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: if you do have ten million for the boxing match,
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: you can set that up in the meantime. The album
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: comes out at the Church Steps on this Friday, Friday,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: February twenty. I will be at South of con Fuego
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: on Sunday. Listen to me. I don't know if you've
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: ever been, there's feel like Jimmy's cafe. So for you
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: young ones that never been there with Jimmy cafes around,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: get there early real form. We come in to crunch
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: the building. I mean crunch me and French shouts to self,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: self and DJ and all my life. I don't know
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: if I should I don't know if I'm allowed to
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: call him my DJ. How should I approach it? Be like, yo,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: you know self, my DJ? I can say so many
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: times has he called you to come and pull up
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: y selves my DJ? We did about ten shows in
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: this past month together. About that, you know what I mean.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: So we're getting our show together and we're coming to
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: crunch the building. On Sunday, so please show up early.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: I appreciate all the love for and support from New
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: York that we've been getting. Hey, like I said, I
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: ain't perfect, but I'm out here. Shouts to hallom. You know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: I love your to death. Shouts to all my family,
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Shouts to pay so the artists, hold me up, man,
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: you did hold us damn No more, hold us up.
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: Now they just start hitting the dance and the wave.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: That's another record. I want to say this, shouts to
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: the young girl Lailor, because I believe there was a
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: big problem mix up with that record. I did not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: know it was this girl's record. I thought it was
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: cash co Page and I told nephew, y'a, I'm gonna
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: do my own version of the record. I'm a remix
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: and I wanted you to do it. He's like, I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: just do all right. So I wanted the whole thing
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: over and things like that. I mean, I didn't know.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: So I just wanted to apologize for her for thinking
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: thinking of anything like I stole your record. But in
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: New York we do our own versions of records all
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: the time and things like that, and sometimes they catch life.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: But I didn't know she was most step daughter shots
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: the most steph No, that lawyer called me. I respect
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: the business sense and things like that, and hopefully we
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: can figure the whole situation out. Hopefully this room for
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: me to do something for her that I could make
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: it right. I can't tell you this, baby girl. I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: wouldn't lose a bag over somebody telling you what's not right,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, like, it's the opportunity if you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: do good business here, you better get this money from
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: the record, because as you say, it's the interpolation is this,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: So get the bag. You're like, I'm not mad at you.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Call my phone. I give you to check that record,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: But I told you that Cash would have been like yo,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you know ye the record.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: You know you know Cash young out here busting. You
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: heard tell him something like yeah, yeah, uncles do unkle
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: whatever you know, I mean, like listening tonk like that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: to start busting. And now here we go. But shouts
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: the cash shots the Bay Swags, Shot shouts the Bay swag,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: big big queens in the building, shouts the slow Bucks
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: house to slow m Bucks, shouts to all my family members. Man,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: we got a extensive network out here in the city.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Shouts to the lobby boys. Hey man, it's been fun man,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: shouts everybody here. You know, I appreciate you for having me.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: It's not easy getting up on the breakfast club, so
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: anytime I'm up here is definitely feel like I'm a star,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: And congrats on another great body of work.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: That's the absolutely than I appreciate you for always holding
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: me up to when it comes to the music, my
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: business sense, my musical like you are one of the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: few people that have advocating for me on this type
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: a platform and letting people know how l I am
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: of a person. I mean, so I definitely appreciate anything
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: else I'm missing.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: I feel you got everything.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: Oh who, what's what's your favorite song? That was a
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: good question because they might be they might just.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: Be reading I listened to all the time all the time.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: I actually put that on one of my church seven
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: church steps take it out.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Like Genesis, Uh, what's going on with Davies?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: I like, you know, you know they listen, but I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: like when you're on them type of records, it's like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: the samples you be using, like Status selected, did he did?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Joe? The funny thing about that that record is seven
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: years old. So what the day that boy did all
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: of that on the internet, it said, And I'm on
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: my phone looking for something else on the notes. I'm
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: just going through the notes, end up going to the bottom,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: and I end up pressing. I just pressed it and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: it came on Jimmy Joel. I was like m and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: it start going off. I'm like, to god, I paid
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: it for my a andr like my bucket, like nah,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: load this up.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: It was no even when you did it was like
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: the I don't know if it was Blacker or it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: was one of them platforms. When you did that on
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: one of those platforms and I was just watching perform it,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, this is this is the one. Yeah,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: you could tell if you're you're in a good space
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: It feels like, yeah, it feels good. It feels good.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, it feels good to be able to do
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: music this far and in my in my career and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: still getting respected as a dope MC, still respected for
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: my fashion sense still. I mean like I got my
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: own little wave out here. So I appreciate that, man, man,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that very much. I appreciate New York City really,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Like if you know me. You know I'm a New
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: York period. You did so Ivy. All my music it's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: New York music, no matter how far it reaches. First
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: it starts with me. I don't put no music out
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: that I don't like myself if it don't hits me
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: the way I needed to hit the nine. And then
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: after that, I'm in New York. All my records, all
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: my albums about my experiences that started from New York
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: and New York. Body you're working, I mean, matter how
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: far reach so. I really love my town. You know
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: what I mean. You're gonna keep putting on as long
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: as I can. You heard Dip said VL that thing
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: don't change man, February twenty. If y'all go, get the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: album at the church steps. Appreciate everybody that participated in
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: the hour.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Jones take off
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: my guy absolutely, Jim Jones.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Good morning, Boom, Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club