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Ep. 830: Rut Fresh Radio - Whitetail Heat Wave · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
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  Speaker 1: the latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,
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  Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
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  Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your hosts
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  Speaker 1: ca C. Smith and Tyler Jones.
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  Speaker 2: The country's in a holding pattern with hot weather and
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  Speaker 2: potential bad weather depending on where you're at.
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  Speaker 3: But if you know where the deer are, you can
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  Speaker 3: get on them.
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  Speaker 4: This is rot Fresh.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Refresh Radio, brought to you about First Light
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  Speaker 2: year Casey Smith, Tyler Jones. We're interviewing deer experts from
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  Speaker 2: around the country that know exactly what the watchailer doing
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  Speaker 2: on your property, and they'll tell you what trees stand
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  Speaker 2: to be in here in just a few minutes.
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  Speaker 4: But all jokes aside.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we've got some pretty valuable information this week,
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  Speaker 2: and thankful for it.
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  Speaker 4: Tyler, you've been deer hunting as well. I have, man,
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  Speaker 4: just tell me what you have learned about deer in
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  Speaker 4: the past week. So I have I have. I have
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  Speaker 4: one thing that I it was solidified as it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: necessarily learned because I learned this in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 4: I solidified a thing that I came up with a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years back called the thermal stall, oh and
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  Speaker 4: the ts I think it was, which we decided that TSS,
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  Speaker 4: which is a you know, shotgun shell is also it
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  Speaker 4: stands for a turkey snood chooter on the way back.
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  Speaker 4: But the thermal stall is a thing that deer do,
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  Speaker 4: at least in a certain part of the country. I
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  Speaker 4: have seen this happen, and I would imagine it translates
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  Speaker 4: to many places in the country where a deer will
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  Speaker 4: move into cover and stop and not do hardly anything
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  Speaker 4: and not go anywhere even in the daylight of the
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  Speaker 4: morning until the thermal action begins to start, and then
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  Speaker 4: the deer will move into that thermal wind to betting
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  Speaker 4: and potentially up to three quarters of a mile of
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  Speaker 4: movement in broad daylight. But as long as they have
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  Speaker 4: that thermal head, you know, working into their nose, they
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  Speaker 4: feel pretty good about it. So we confirmed that that
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  Speaker 4: was a thing that's happening right now. And I think
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  Speaker 4: it's an early season thing a lot too for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of reasons, right because you don't have the rut.
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  Speaker 4: Going on, the rut changes a lot of this, right.
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  Speaker 4: And then also in the early season, we still have
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  Speaker 4: these kind of warm days and you start to see
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  Speaker 4: where the nights will cool off some. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that what that means is there's a lot of thermal
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  Speaker 4: action and also your wind will die at that time
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  Speaker 4: as well. A lot of times, so as the as
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  Speaker 4: the earth heats up during the morning, you see where
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  Speaker 4: a thermal rise will start to create a wind, and
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  Speaker 4: then you've got a windy day, and then that wind
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  Speaker 4: as it cools off and the sun sinks lower, will
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  Speaker 4: start to die out, and then you will find where
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  Speaker 4: your thermal will really fall. And I think it's emphasized
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  Speaker 4: in September and October especially.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense, man, you know, I think that I've
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  Speaker 2: seen this happen. And if you're hunting public land, it
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  Speaker 2: gets tough because a lot of times where the deer
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  Speaker 2: doing that at is a place you can't access. But
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  Speaker 2: if you hunt private land, maybe you can, maybe you
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  Speaker 2: can't because you don't have as much access because there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot more public land a lot of times. So
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  Speaker 2: it's I think it's what a lot of people call
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  Speaker 2: staging areas.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes you think about it in the evening a lot more.
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  Speaker 4: That's probably that's probably where you know, that's probably what
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  Speaker 4: the term means. I think a lot of people have
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  Speaker 4: always talked about staging areas though, and more of a
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  Speaker 4: sense of cover. Yeah, it's like, so I'm gonna stage
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  Speaker 4: here prior to leaving out to this beanfield. And maybe
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  Speaker 4: that's what it is. I don't know too, but it
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  Speaker 4: could be that that staging area these people are seeing,
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  Speaker 4: they're just not realizing it's because of thermals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's there's potential there that at least I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to speak for my own personal experiences. I've
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  Speaker 2: always thought about staging areas very remediately on my own
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  Speaker 2: part and just thinking, oh, they got there too early,
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  Speaker 2: so they're waiting until it gets dark to go out there.
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  Speaker 2: But deer really don't do very many things unintentionally, you know,
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  Speaker 2: They're very intentional with almost every.
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  Speaker 4: Step they take. Pretty much only goal is to survive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they do weird things all the time because
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  Speaker 2: they know to do a weird thing, right, Like they
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  Speaker 2: just they move just a little bit just for no reason,
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  Speaker 2: right and whatever. And so I think that there's a
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  Speaker 2: region the reason that you have a staging area, and
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  Speaker 2: it's probably in some senses at least because they know
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  Speaker 2: they can stay there and get a good whiff of
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  Speaker 2: stuff before they move out.
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  Speaker 4: You know another thing that I should we should maybe
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  Speaker 4: debunk a little bit here is that I think, to
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  Speaker 4: go with your point of deer doing weird things, I
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  Speaker 4: think when you see a buck that's old, that gets old,
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  Speaker 4: a big buck, I think a lot of times people
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  Speaker 4: like to be like, oh, it's an old smart buck.
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  Speaker 4: And I think deer very instinctual, and instead of that
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  Speaker 4: buck actually being smart, I think whatever his instincts are,
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  Speaker 4: or whatever his personality traits are. Not to personify a deer,
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  Speaker 4: but like you know what, I mean, his character characteristics,
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  Speaker 4: how he thinks about, how he goes about whatever. I
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  Speaker 4: think that those things, if he doesn't do things that
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  Speaker 4: are similar to other deer, or if he does things
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  Speaker 4: that are kind of odd because of his personality traits
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  Speaker 4: or whatever you want to say, that makes him hard
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  Speaker 4: to kill. And that's why he gets old. It's not
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  Speaker 4: because he's a smart deer. You know, he's probably hasn't
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  Speaker 4: like necessarily, I mean, they can definitely learn some things
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  Speaker 4: if they have the potential to learn. Yeah, sure, but
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  Speaker 4: it's not. It's more that I think a lot of
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  Speaker 4: times a deer gets old is because he does weird things,
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  Speaker 4: and he goes to weird places and he prefers weird
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  Speaker 4: betting and stuff like that. You know, I think there's
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  Speaker 4: definitely ability to learn. So I'm not trying to really
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  Speaker 4: de bonk. I'm just kind of being a little bit uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, flip side of the court here.
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's funny how I thought about this
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  Speaker 2: the other day. I was watching something or listening to something.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody said, Oh, he's just a smart old buck because
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  Speaker 2: he did a thing that like almost like would it
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  Speaker 2: imply that the deer predicted there would be a guy
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  Speaker 2: that true? Yep, that's right. And it's like that's just
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  Speaker 2: not how they're thinking, you know. You know, but have
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  Speaker 2: you ever watched The Prices Right.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're sick, when you're a kid, The Prices
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  Speaker 2: Right was on about eleven, you know, and you got
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  Speaker 2: to watch that and there was a game on there
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  Speaker 2: called Plinko.
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  Speaker 4: You're familiar to Plinko. Yeah, I feel like they dropped
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  Speaker 4: this thing. It looks like a big old shot the
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  Speaker 4: armored catfish, is it? No, that's that's a pleco So
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  Speaker 4: glad you brought that up though. That was cool.
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  Speaker 2: So plinko essentially is the representation of a bell curve
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  Speaker 2: on an individual basis. So, but you have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to manipulate depending on where you drop the puck. But effectively,
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  Speaker 2: if you drop the puck right in the middle, say that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: that figuratively is the birth of a deer. Okay, And
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  Speaker 2: that deer that that puck is likely maybe likely isn't
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  Speaker 2: the right word. The highest odds of that thing is
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  Speaker 2: hitting right in the very middle. But because of the
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  Speaker 2: bell curve principle, you'll have times whenever that's going to
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  Speaker 2: hit way on the outside margins.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And that's kind of what you're talking about when deer
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  Speaker 2: characteristics A I would say the majority of deer are
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  Speaker 2: going to have characteristics that get them killed or shot,
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  Speaker 2: which are the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes. Yeah, it depends on get killed or nicked you know,
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  Speaker 5: at an earlier age. But on these margins out here,
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  Speaker 5: and those margins, it's not a circle ride, it's a
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  Speaker 5: linear graph. And so in these margins you got deer
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  Speaker 5: that survived are really old age and it's way less
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  Speaker 5: than it is in that middle hump. Okay, And I
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  Speaker 5: like this example because in the margins in my mind,
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  Speaker 5: there are a deer that are living way out in
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  Speaker 5: the middle of nowhere that are like a real secluded
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  Speaker 5: and they get real wary because they're old and they've
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  Speaker 5: outwitted the coyotes to time or two and they might
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  Speaker 5: not ever see a person.
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  Speaker 4: And then on the other end of.
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  Speaker 2: The scale, there's a deer like we have on trail
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  Speaker 2: camera that's six years old and lives between two neighborhoods
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  Speaker 2: that also has figured out a niche and maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: not even figured out, but where his puck landed on
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  Speaker 2: Plinko was in a spot that he gets to survive
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  Speaker 2: to be an old age.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like that deer can live, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: between two neighborhoods and never get shot even though there's
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  Speaker 4: people hunting around him, because like because for whatever, like okay,
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  Speaker 4: you know how some people are like night owls and
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  Speaker 4: some people are morning people, right, that might be the
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  Speaker 4: characteristic that keeps him alive, Like he might be for
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  Speaker 4: whatever reason, he might just like not be very diurnal
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  Speaker 4: at all.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly it And it's not that he learned it, but
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  Speaker 2: it's just because you know, his twin from the womb
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  Speaker 2: maybe even was a buck that liked to daylight walk,
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  Speaker 2: uh huh, and it got killed. And in this book
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  Speaker 2: just because of his nature likes to not time walk.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you live. He might be warm natured, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean. It's like people that like hot nature,
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  Speaker 4: they always want the ac on, you know, Well that
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  Speaker 4: deer just wants the nighttime ac on. You know, it
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  Speaker 4: could be so many things, And I think that that's
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  Speaker 4: what's cool about deer is because we will never know that,
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  Speaker 4: like we will never actually figure deer out. And that's
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  Speaker 4: what makes this stuff so much fun. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if your deer are warm natured, it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like it's going to be a great week for you
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  Speaker 2: because everybody, I think most people at least talked about
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  Speaker 2: how we have a warming trend coming up over the
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  Speaker 2: next week. But we do have some details about how
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  Speaker 2: you could potentially still get on deer in your neck
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  Speaker 2: of the woods. Tyler, who do we have this week?
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  Speaker 4: So we're gonna hear from Logan right in Wisconsin, one
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  Speaker 4: of the best deer hunting states of all time, potentially
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  Speaker 4: the best deer hunter of all time. Uh. And then
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  Speaker 4: we also have Jared Mills from Iowa right down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Eli House is going to be in Alabama. He's been
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  Speaker 4: doing some cool stuff, so we're gonna get a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of that pre red Alabama action. And then we've
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  Speaker 4: got Jay Gaylord from Hunter's Advantage. He's been in Oklahoma
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  Speaker 4: chasing the hard masked drop that's happening there and he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be telling us how to get on deer. All right.
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  Speaker 4: I've got Logan right here. He's been up in Wisconsin
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  Speaker 4: doing some hunting. Logan, what's been going on? Man?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, it's it's been pretty good, honestly, really good, good hunting.
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  Speaker 4: We kill good hunting.
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  Speaker 6: Kill the buck on Friday, my girlfriend did, and I
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  Speaker 6: just no complaints when you kill one, you know.
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  Speaker 4: The first week in October, sure thing, dude. What's the
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  Speaker 4: weather been like up there?
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  Speaker 3: Up until last week?
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  Speaker 7: Midweek we got a cold.
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  Speaker 6: Front that kind of pushed in. It had been like
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  Speaker 6: eighty upper seventies, eighties, and then it dropped down to
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  Speaker 6: sixty five last week for a couple of days and
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  Speaker 6: we were able to sink out.
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  Speaker 4: So that cold front was was was that why you
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  Speaker 4: left out to hunt or is that why the deer
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  Speaker 4: changed what they were doing and gave you a shot?
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  Speaker 7: Well a little bit of both.
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  Speaker 6: My girlfriend coaches high school volleyball, so her schedule is
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  Speaker 6: atrocious for trying to get out deer hunting, especially with
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  Speaker 6: a two year old kid at home.
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  Speaker 4: And she had off Friday, Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: Sunday that weekend, and we had planned to hunt it
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  Speaker 6: already and it just happened to be a cold front
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  Speaker 6: pushing through at the same time, which was you know,
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  Speaker 6: having sent I guess.
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  Speaker 3: So, was that your student still doing like a bid
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  Speaker 3: to feed thing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I would say we hunted pretty much in the bedroom
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  Speaker 6: with a pretty good area for buff betting, especially I
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  Speaker 6: would say early October I.
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  Speaker 4: Hunted that general area. So yeah, I mean we were
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  Speaker 4: on top of deer.
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  Speaker 6: We actually jumped what we assumed was the target buck
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  Speaker 6: that we went in there to kill. And on the
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  Speaker 6: walk in where we were in like within twenty yards
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  Speaker 6: of where we were going to set up, and I
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  Speaker 6: heard one sounded like a freight train getting out of there,
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  Speaker 6: and we were pretty discouraged, but got up in the tree,
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  Speaker 6: saw a out of deer and had this one come
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  Speaker 6: through about six o'clock, so an hour before and illegal here. Wow, man,
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  Speaker 6: so how did you know the bed was there? So
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  Speaker 6: this is a I've talked to you about it before,
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  Speaker 6: but this is a little tiny twenty acre property that
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  Speaker 6: I hunt and pretty much the whole thing is to
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  Speaker 6: cover and the general area in the early months, I
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  Speaker 6: would say end of September to mid October. It seems
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  Speaker 6: like in the past few years it's really narrowed down
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  Speaker 6: that it's where the where the bucks like to be
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  Speaker 6: vetted within them about one hundred yard radio so where
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  Speaker 6: we were.
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  Speaker 4: So in the next week or so, do you think
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  Speaker 4: that you would still stay close to bedding or are
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  Speaker 4: you going to start doing some more movement get you know,
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  Speaker 4: where you're gonna be able to, you know, get a
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  Speaker 4: shot at them, closer to food sources and that kind
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  Speaker 4: of thing.
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  Speaker 6: I think. I think scrapes you're going to be killer
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  Speaker 6: in the next week or so. Is like it's it's
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  Speaker 6: hot today up here, and it's supposed to be pretty
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  Speaker 6: mild for the next few days and then by the
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  Speaker 6: weekend we're looking at another pretty good cold push with
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  Speaker 6: some lows in the in the upper thirties. But you
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  Speaker 6: know enough to enough to get them deer really really
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  Speaker 6: starting to think about it for sure?
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  Speaker 4: Man, have you seen any scrapes opened up so far?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say over the So I hunted, actually
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  Speaker 6: I got to hunt Friday with her. I hunted Saturday
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  Speaker 6: afternoon and Sunday morning and afternoon and saw I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: probably a dozen scrapes when I was bouncing around between
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  Speaker 6: checking cameras and hunting. So there they started thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: That's awesome, dude. So scrapes in the next week or so,
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  Speaker 4: what do you think in the next week, based off
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  Speaker 4: of weather or moon or anything like that, or just
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  Speaker 4: even time and time of year, what do you think
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  Speaker 4: the deer the buck movement will be like on a
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  Speaker 4: scale of one to ten.
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  Speaker 6: With the cold push, I'll give it an eight. I'm
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  Speaker 6: a I'm a I'm a big October guy, though I
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  Speaker 6: don't believe in no.
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  Speaker 4: No October, little man. So Halloween, you're gonna be trick
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  Speaker 4: or treating or you're gonna be hunting.
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  Speaker 6: Ideally hunting, but not in not in this state. I'm
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  Speaker 6: hoping to be tagged out in Wisconsin Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: All right, man, So scrapes are going to be an
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  Speaker 4: eight in the next week or so, in your opinion, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: up here for sure.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know about everywhere else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Texas is gonna be different. I would, I
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  Speaker 4: would bet you well. I appreciate the report, man, and uh,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we'll check back in with you sometime later this year,
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  Speaker 4: see if you're in a different state or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I've got Jared Mills on the phone now.
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  Speaker 2: He's been hunting in Iowa, and uh, he actually sounds
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  Speaker 2: like I just had some good success last night.
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  Speaker 3: Jared, tell me, man, you shoot a big buck?
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 8: It was a good timing you and I scheduled this
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  Speaker 8: call and then I headed to the woods and killed
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  Speaker 8: one shortly after that, so kind of kind of cool
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  Speaker 8: it worked out that way.
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  Speaker 4: It's a good time to catch up. Awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Man, tell me the next time you need a tag
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  Speaker 2: field and we'll schedule another one.
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  Speaker 4: You know exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I know you you're a big buck killer,
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  Speaker 2: and for you to use a tag this early in
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  Speaker 2: the month of October, it had to be pretty special. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: tell me how you I guess, like, what tactic you
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  Speaker 2: were using to target a big deer this point in
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  Speaker 2: the month.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so it was actually on my second set of
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  Speaker 8: the season, you know here and I will open up
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  Speaker 8: October first, and I went out the opening day, But
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  Speaker 8: then in between then and now or then and last night,
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  Speaker 8: I was really focusing on getting my daughter her first year,
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  Speaker 8: which we were able to do a few days ago,
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  Speaker 8: and then I was out of town for Buddy's wedding
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  Speaker 8: a couple of days for a couple of days, and
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  Speaker 8: then got back and had another cold front come through.
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  Speaker 8: So basically I made two sits so far this year, and.
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  Speaker 4: They have both been on the back end of a
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  Speaker 4: cold front.
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  Speaker 8: And to me, that's kind of key for mature year
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  Speaker 8: in this early I would say the first half of October,
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  Speaker 8: that's really the recipe unless you're just right on the X.
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  Speaker 8: But to get get these deer moving in daylight, these
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: mature bucks, it takes that cold or a little bit
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: cooler than normal temperatures, I should say, to get a moving.
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: Then the other thing is just being in the right
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: spot with regards to like, you know, these mature bucks
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: are are still you know, it's it's not quite the
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: pre rut yet, so there's there's still just you know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: mature animals that are going to use everything in their
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: favor with their guards, you know, the wind and thermals,
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: and so last night I was on the spot that
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: one of those kind of rare scenarios where the thermals
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: and scent and terrain and everything were really good for him,
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: but also for me in terms of how I was
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: able to get in out on on.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: A creek ditch.
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: So it just just one of those spots where everything
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: came together. He was comfortable there, but I was still
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: able to slip in and get with him bow range.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: That's awesome, dude.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: So can you tell me what you mean when you
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: say the backside of a cold front? Is that a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: specific time or is it do you just mean kind
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: of after it's hit kind.
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: Of the first full day after it hits is usually
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, that first day that it hits can be
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: really good. It just depends on when it when it
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: comes through and what the conditions are. You know, a
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: lot of times you have that first day when it's
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: coming in you have a little bit higher wind speed
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: the north or west, cooling things down, and that can
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: be a good time too. But I've overall seen a
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: little bit more success on that first full day when
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: the you know, the pressure is up. That next day
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: the winds calm down a little bit, but it's still cooler.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: Tempts those just I love those nights, you know, if
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: you can hear everything come in as long as you
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: don't get too light of wind that it's that it's
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: you know, pretty variable and you get yourself in a
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: in a spot that can get you in trouble, it
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: can be killer for for this hunts just. I mean
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: you feel like you have all your senses a deer
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: or comfortable movement just because it's cooler weather. And like
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: I said, those thermal spots, if you can find a
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: spot where those light wind speeds you know, don't affect
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: you too much because you're pulling your thermal thermals down
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: into a low spot. To me, that's as good as
• 18:53
  Speaker 8: it gets this time of year.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: So you know, in the next I don't know, a
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: week or so, maybe as we get closer to the
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: red I know you said there really wasn't a ton
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: of like rutting action that you're seeing. Do you think
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: things are going to pick up some or do you
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: expect it to be pretty similar to as far as
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the dear action goes to what you've been seeing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: I think the only thing that's really going to hurt us,
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: and I'm kind of been kind of looking at the
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: forecast here is just warmer tempts.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: It's going to be for the next.
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: Six or seven days, it's going to be hotter than average,
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: and that that quickly subdues deer movement. But you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: as far as the activity, it's going to keep ramping
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: up from the standpoint of what bucks are doing. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: I've seen a huge shift just in the last week
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: of mature buck activity. So this bucket I killed last night,
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: for example. You know, up until a week and a
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: half ago, maybe two weeks ago, he was very passive
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: and everything is hard to get good pictures of of me.
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: Throughout the summer after velvet shit, it's hard to get
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: a good pictures of me. He's always walking in the background,
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: never coming into scrapes much.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: You know I was.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: I'd watch a field of a bunch of bunch of
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: bucks paired up sparring, and he'd be off on his
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: no no deer even look at him. He would just
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: be focused on feeding, doing his thing. You know, clearly
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: a different age class animal. But the last week and
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: a half two weeks has been a dramatic shifting activity
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: for him. He's been you know, marking just territory like
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: crazy in every scrape, aggressively working at just just almost
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: a light switch and activity, uh for him and and
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: other mature bucks that I have on camera too.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: It's it's one of my favorite.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: Things to watch that that uptick and movement and you know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: territorial kind of behavior from these mature bucks. And I
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: think that'll keep ramping up, especially as we entered you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: mid October to the late latter half when they really
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: start looking for that first at.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the time that we get really excited about.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: So for right now at least looking forward for the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: next week, you know, it seems like across the country
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that the crops are coming out a little bit early,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: but we do have these warmer temps coming up as well,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of like that you know, late warm movement.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: What do you think you're going to rate the the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: buck movement on a scale of one to ten for
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the next week.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I think daylight movement.
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: I think it's going to be relatively slow, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: all trying to go with like a five. But activity
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: in general, except I think a lot of it will
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: be nighttime, but I think we're going to keep seeing
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: these bucks move around a little bit. They're just gonna
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: wait till cooler temps and that's usually you know, after
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: dark or or early mornings too. I see a lot
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: of morning activity out of bucks this time of year.
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: The problem is, most of the time the risk isn't
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: worth worth it, you know, trying to get in there
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: before them. It's just just tough to get in mornings
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: this time of year. But if you have a spot,
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: it works. I do see a lot more movement, daylight
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: movement in the mornings as opposed to the evenings this
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: time of year, just because of the temperature.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense, man, Well, very cool stuff.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Do you. Congrats on the buck. Can't wait to see
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: it on YouTube. And I hope you have a good
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: rest of the season.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: All right. We're talking to Eli House. He's out in
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Alabama and he's been doing some deer hunting with traditional equipment.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: How's that been going, Man, it's been going great. Just
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: kicking off the season. Excited for the rest of it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did you have some success recently you want to
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: talk about?
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: I did yesterday evening.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: Man, I just got into traditional archery, which I'm hunting
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: to the recurve. Just got into it this year and
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: had some some sick success yesterday eating on my first
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: year with a recurve and ended up being a book.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: So man, that's awesome, dude. I had a recurve that
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: my dad bought me a while back for Christmas. One
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: year is awesome, Martin. And I was getting to shooting learning,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to learn best I could. About two
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: years ago a shooting live on Instagram and the boat
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: blew up, and so I'm not doing the recurve thing anymore.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: So kudos to you for not blowing your bow up
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and for shooting on with it. I'm sure you had
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: to get pretty close. Huh. Yeah, man, you have to
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: get rid of close.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't really trust myself at a long
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: distance like you know some people would.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Sure how close was that buck?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: He was right at ten yards?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Ten or eleven yard? So sorry, the computer's made a
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: much noise. I'm gonna do edit here. Things are going wild.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right back on it. Uh, okay, here we go,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Sorry about that, here we go. So your strategy has
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: to be to be real tight on the deer if
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you use traditional stuff. Right, So it's super early season
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: in Alabama, I would say right, because I mean you're
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: looking at like December type rup dates.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: So what are those deer doing right now?
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: Our acorn crop is not good this year, So they're
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: looking for grains, they're looking for field edges, they're looking
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: for corn, any acorns they can find, whatever kind of
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: food source they can get on, they're going to be there.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: So are you targeting like private agg fields and kind
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of sitting up between bedd and food Basically?
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: Yes, I've got a piece of private that one of
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: my buddies lets me hunt on that is just basically
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: pastor land. He runs cows on it, and it's got
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: some you know, thick pine ridges running out around it,
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: and I try to get in between them and the
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: in the pasture land and on some of the field
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: edges of the pastors. I have some food plots that
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: I put in with just you know, five or six
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: way blends whatever and anything to kind of try to
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: attract deer.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: How are you keeping the cows out of that food plot?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: Well, he's only got cows on certain certain pieces of
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: the property, so thankfully they're not back there, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: destroying it and keeping everything ate down.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: So did you have you know, eyes on deer or
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: did you go in blind or pre scout this or
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: how did you figure out, you know, kind of how
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to get in between them.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: So I've hunted the property for three or four years.
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: I actually took my biggest deer ever off of the
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: property two years ago with my rifle. So I've kind
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: of learned how what the deer do and what days
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: you know, certain bucks you can pattern to certain days,
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: and what the pressure I've learned, and I don't know
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: if it plays any part in it, but I've kind
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: of went off pressure this year, Like on the high
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: pressure days early season, I tend to see more deer
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: and I run a cell cam too on it, so
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: I kind of that helps you a lot, keeping up
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: with you know, what wind direction he's coming in on,
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: what the pressure is that day, what time all that.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: So sure, So next week or so is what's the
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: barometric pressure gonna gonna look like? Good or bad?
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: It's supposed to supposed to be in the thirties after
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: tomorrow tonight.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: It's supposed to get down.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: It's been like high eighties every day on lows in
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: like the mid sixties. But this next week it's supposed
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: to get down low fifties and a few days in
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: the upper forties. So I'm supposed to be high pressure
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: and I'm excited about it. It's the first cold front
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: of the year. Season just opened, so I figure it's
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: going to get pretty good.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what what what do you think you'll be doing
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: if you're trying to target a buck in the next
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: week or so. What's the key? Is it going to
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: be similar to what you're doing or something different?
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: It's probably going to be pretty similar. It's still early season.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: Come come rut or really right there, beginning of November,
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: I'll start hitting some public and going and searching for
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: a monster.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: If you end up with a frost pretty soon, does
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: that kind of change the way those food plots work?
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I like to I like to frost seed
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: some of my food plots with like clover and that
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: that tends to work pretty well.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Or either or either you know, cut it down.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: As soon as that first hit frost hits a clover patch,
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: the deer hammer.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It really yep, interesting, gotcha? So there's even some tactic
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: as to what the plant and when to do it
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: for what they're going to hit.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So whenever you talking about transition to this public stuff
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: here pretty soon, are you trying to make adjustments to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the way people are using the properties or you still
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like just looking for regular bed to feed stuff.
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: I will when when I make my transition to public
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: I'm looking that's when I start hunting signs, scrapes, funnels,
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: stuff like that. Even before I rut every hits, those
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: bucks are still gonna be up on their food or
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: on their foot or on their feet sorry, checking for
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: you know, who's hitting, what's great and what buck's doing what,
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: whether they're on the dose yet or not?
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, got you cool.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking at the next week here, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: there's a there's a big system in the Gulf. I
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna bring you any moisture, but
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: it might actually, you know, kind of give you some
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: weird wind directions I would imagine for normal Right, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: then you calculate that in with just the kind of
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: those cool temperatures that you said are on the way.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: How do you expect the dear move it's going to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: be on a scale of one to ten over the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: With the cooler weather, I expected to be on a
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: scale of one to ten around the six or seven,
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: to be honest, compared to what they've been doing, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: mainly night time movement. It being as hot as it
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: has been. I don't think the hurricane is going to
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: have too much of an effect on them. But I could
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: be completely wrong, but I figure it's going to be
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: on a on a six or seven.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: That's good, man, It's it's going to get pretty good.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: So picking up into maybe a seven in Alabama this
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: week coming up.
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I appreciate the report, Eli, and I hope you get
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: to shoot a bunch of more deer this year. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: hope so too. Man.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I've got Jake gay Lord with Hunter's Advantage on the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: phone right now. He has been doing some hunting up
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in Oklahoma. What's happening, dude, Oh?
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: Not a lot, not a lot. What's been going on
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: with you guys?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Well, right now, we're just all laughing and having a
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: good time in East Texas.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: But we've been doing some hunting here and there and everywhere,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But it is that time of year when we're all
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: thinking about deer, and quite honestly, a lot of us
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: are getting overly enthusiastic about what's going on in the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: deer woods because we're ready, we're itching to get out.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: And you have been out right and there in Oklahoma.
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: Yep, yep, yep.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: So are you seeing good deer movement currently?
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: Well, if you looked on any Oklahoma hunting pages, you
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: would think the deer movement is outstanding. But where I've
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: been hunting, you know, we kind of hunt the more
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: mountainous regions of Oklahoma and you know, generally in the state,
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: like it has lower deer density and so you kind
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: of expect not to see that many deer and it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: kind of a quality over quantity situation. But that's just
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: kind of where we hunt, where we like to stick with.
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: But long story short, you know, the movement hasn't been
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: too good. It's kind of been in the nineties towards
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: the evening and you know, the mosquito really love.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: It, but you're not some of it, yeah for sure.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So since you're you know, doing a lot of that
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: mountain hunting, I'm sure that you got acorns on the brain.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of how a lot of that stuff
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: rotates this year, this time of year, right, you're just
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: looking for hot feed or what are you doing up there?
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Exactly?
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So down there, it's kind of like monotonous pines,
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: and every now and then you get those those nice
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: little oak flats and it can kind of almost get
• 30:43
  Speaker 9: a little overwhelming trying to find, you know, that particular
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: feed tree or however you want to.
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: Go about it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: But it's what we like to do is it's kind
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: of the bed to food pattern. I guess simplified, that's
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: what it is. But we tend to hug up more
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: towards the bedding on where we think they're all betting
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: at and try to cut them off between like that
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: oak flat and maybe that five six year old clear
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: cut that is now all overgrown. And that's that's kind
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: of where we seems like they can bet anywhere, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: that's kind of where we'd like to pinpoint them.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I hate to give away, you know, high quality info,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: but have you ever killed one on a pine cone pattern?
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I have not. I have not. I don't think so.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: So you don't think they hate those things?
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: I haven't. I haven't really thought about that too.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just making sure you know acorns are in
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: a pine piney wood scenario or the thing you should
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: be looking for.
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: But in all, honestly, as an Oklahoma and you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: we're forty eighths in education here, I think so.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: That's good honesty there.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: We can trust this report, we know. So okay, so
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: what about does does moon or weather affect you coming
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: up or you're looking at any of that stuff?
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: Man, I think this is where the hate's going to
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: come in.
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: But I don't really pay any attention to anything other
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: than the winds particularly, and you know down there you
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: get in those bowls and it's swirling, and so we
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: have a thing where it's like if you're hunting the
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: wrong spot and the wrong wind, you just you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: do a one eighty in your tree standing there the
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: other way.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard Christians say that it's funny. You know
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: what about uh what about like scrapes or anything? Is
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: that something you're thinking about sometime soon?
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, we'll go.
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: In, uh look for that sign, whether that be scrapes
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: or rubs and down we had. It's kind of it's
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: kind of hit and miss. You don't see as much
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: sign as you do. Like normally it's you know, it's
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: not an ag an ag spot by no means. It
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: seems like we grow rocks more times than not. But
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: so it's kind of harder to see the sign. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: that's kind of what we look for. Is every now
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: and then, down those old two tracks, you'll see some
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: pretty good uh scrapes or rubs, and you kind of
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: just hunt off those.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: Is how we like to narrow down those areas.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So here in mid October, you're actually moving around and
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of d season scouting.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: You're not kind of sitting out and just observing.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's typically what we like to do.
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: We like to bounce around in October to kind of
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: narrow down the spots for where we want to sit,
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: you know, come November when the movement's actually really good
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: and we're we're actually smarter than the deer for once.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's it's hard to do sometimes, man, especially
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: in Oklahoma. But I actually don't know how smart the
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: deer are in Oklahoma, but the people is what I
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: was referring to. Right. Yeah, one way, So in the
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: next week or so, are you gonna are you going
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: to kind of employ the same patterns here or are
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: you gonna do you expect anything to change in the
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: way you hunt or in the kind of actions of
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: the deer.
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, So next week we're suposed to get a
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: pretty good little cold front coming through, right So it's
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: been in the nineties, and I think starting Monday or
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: Tuesday it's supposed to be high as sixties and like
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: lower forties.
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: So that's going to be pretty darn nice. So and
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: all that'll do is just keep me on my feet
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: a little.
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: Bit longer to walk to the next spot, you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: report gets too hot and I'm just tired and shoving
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: up a tree right there. Yeah, yeah, kind of on
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: that same pattern, you know, try to find those oak
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: flats and look for sign and basically just try to
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: find the most you know, the most diversity all in
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: one spot that also has that that good betting around.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and that's good. That's a good tip man
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: for that kind of a lot of people. That's relatable,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: you know, find diversity. So in the next week, with
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: some colder temps coming in, but similar action as far
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: as deer go, Uh, is this going to be you know,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: on a scale of one to ten. Is this going
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: to be a good report or bad report? What number
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: were we looking at here? Uh?
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: Man, I want to keep it honest.
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, just specifically for where we hunt, it's probably
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: going to be a probably a three or four. With
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: the colder temperatures, you know, it could turn into a five,
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: but we'll just make it a median number and go
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: with four.
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: How about that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: I like it, man. It's kind of like the opposite
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: of a Midwest six. It works, that's real realistic. I
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: appreciate that too.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: You know, like everybody's so enthusiastic this time of year,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: but man, guys, it's not November tenth, right, So it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: just you know, take take a.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Breath and realize what we're working with.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: But you can kill deer on you know, days that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: are ranked a point five, you know, if you know
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: what you're doing. So Jake, appreciate the good, honest report, man,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: and I hope you have a great season.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Hey, I appreciate y'all having me.
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: And one last thing, if I could say real quick,
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: I know, as hunters, we all like to hunt and
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: stuff like that, and we focus on those record book books,
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: whether that be Pope and Young or Boone and Crockett.
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: But you know, I think we need to take that
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: back and focus on that good book and keep God
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: first of the season.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, brother, Thanks for that. Yeah, I really enjoyed this
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: week's reports, and I think it's because we actually had
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: some realistic numbers and it there are some unrealistic ones too,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: but I appreciate the optimism from the unrealistic, guys. I
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: also appreciate the realism from the true numbers of Like, hey, guys,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: it's still early the October, right, but it's all fun
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: either way.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Guys. A great thing go.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Check out right now is our friend Mark Kenyon had
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: a pretty epic hunt for dear he called the wine
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: wide nine, which happened to not be a nine point.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: The only way you're going to figure out how that
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: happened to go is to go check out that video
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that we have posted a link below. And then also
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I barely owned. Tyler Jones had a hunt for the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: wide and massive and gigantic ten in Kansas as well
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: last year, and that hunt just went live on the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Element channel.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: If you can hang a ring on it, he was
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: an eleven, you know, actually he broke a brow times.
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: And how about that that's true.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: You know, I always look at deer just for what
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: their frame is.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: If a deer is missing brow times, I don't count.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: He's still an eight to me.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just eight without browse, which is weird, right.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Deer math is a strange thing. It's kind of like
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: chicken math, a girl math, all that stuff weird. But
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Tyler puts one of the best shots I've ever seen
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: a person put on a deer.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: On this deer uh and uh, it's just epic footage.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Go check it out.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: If you haven't, we'd really appreciate that. Guys, it's time
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: to get out and go hunting. Take it easy, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: don't do anything too crazy, you know, make an observation,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: sit or whatever. But if you got the high anchor
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and just get out there in a big mix of
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: maybe you'll kill it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: We've talked to a couple guys this week that absolutely
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: we're finding a way to have.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Some success and you can do it too.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: This is rut fresh, Keep it fresh.