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Ready For Action JESSE LEACH From KILLSWITCH ENGAGE Lays Down The Law · HEAVY Music Interviews

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Speaker 1: What's up, my friends? This is Jesse Leach from Killswitch Engage.
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Speaker 2: Getting ready to embark on a behemoth of a tour
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Speaker 2: with the mighty Killswitch Engage and Psilosis as direct support.
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Speaker 1: And it's going to be killer. I can't wait.
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Speaker 3: Fantastic, bro. Behemoth is the word. She's going to be massive.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, pleasure. Thanks for having me. No worries, man.
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Speaker 4: So Killswitch Engage do return to Australia very soon for
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Speaker 4: a run of shows starting in Auckland on October 30th
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Speaker 4: before heading to Wellington, Brisbane, Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong, Melbourne and
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Speaker 4: Adelaide and finishing in Fremantle on November the 14th.
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Speaker 3: But not far away, man. Are you packed? Ready to go?
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Speaker 1: Not packed yet, but I'll get that done tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: But I'm ready.
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Speaker 1: I'm ready.
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Speaker 4: Ready?
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Speaker 3: Indeed. It's been just over two years since you were
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Speaker 3: here last, right? So what's changed with the band since then?
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Speaker 2: New material really worked well into the set, and I
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Speaker 2: think that's going to be a big one. These things are,
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Speaker 2: we've worked out all the kinks, we've done a bunch
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Speaker 2: of tours with them, so if you're a fan of
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Speaker 2: the new record, you're going to hear at least four
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Speaker 2: or five of those new songs, as well as a
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Speaker 2: nice mix of all of our back catalogue, and we're
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Speaker 2: rotating the sets so if you come to two shows
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Speaker 2: back to back you'll you'll see some variations as well
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Speaker 2: which is good.
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Speaker 4: That's a good idea man and last i checked there
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Speaker 4: was three of the shows were already sold out man
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Speaker 4: like does that change your mindset at all going into
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Speaker 4: a show and knowing that shows were sold out.
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Speaker 2: I mean i give it a hundred percent no matter
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Speaker 2: what but it definitely adds a little bit more of
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Speaker 2: excitement for sure makes me happy and it's just a
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Speaker 2: relief during these times that we're living through you know
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Speaker 2: financial insecurities and you know the world just kind of
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Speaker 2: a big dumpster fire.
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Speaker 1: It gives me hope.
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Speaker 2: It makes me happy to see we're selling out shows
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Speaker 2: and having a, to be able to travel across the
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Speaker 2: world and bring our music to people is a great privilege.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Nice.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. You've mentioned, which I think is a good thing
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Speaker 4: that you're going to vary the set list up from
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Speaker 4: night to night, but do.
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Speaker 3: You have like, is there a formula for that?
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Speaker 4: Like, do you, do you look into it and see
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Speaker 4: which songs work better in which cities before deciding what
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Speaker 4: goes where?
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Speaker 3: Or is it just more random?
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Speaker 1: It's, it's honestly, I'm going to have to give credit
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Speaker 1: to Justin, our drummer.
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Speaker 2: He's the guy that comes up with the set list
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Speaker 2: that we sort of quickly discuss, but he's usually pretty
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Speaker 2: spot on. And I think it's a, you know, for us,
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Speaker 2: we try to show a good mixture of the songs
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Speaker 2: that we know people want to hear, adding in some
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Speaker 2: maybe obscure stuff or stuff we haven't played in a while,
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Speaker 2: and then presenting the new material as well. So it's
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Speaker 2: definitely something we're conscious of, but we don't go as
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Speaker 2: far as to sort of look at the region and
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Speaker 2: what songs, you know, trending or any of that stuff.
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Speaker 1: I think for us, it's more.
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Speaker 2: Of just a feel And also a run of set,
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Speaker 2: how it feels, sort of an introduction track, where are
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Speaker 2: we at in the middle of the set and how
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Speaker 2: do we end off on a big set? I think
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Speaker 2: that's the fun of putting on a good show is
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Speaker 2: having a little bit of the ebb and flow of
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Speaker 2: the set.
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Speaker 3: I guess that had changed too, like from tour to tour.
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Speaker 4: When you release a new album, you'd have to restructure
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Speaker 4: the whole set list to be able to find the
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Speaker 4: balance to get the new songs in.
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Speaker 3: It's not a matter of just taking that one out
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Speaker 3: and putting that one in.
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Speaker 4: One song can affect the whole continuity, can't it?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And that's a little bit of trial and error.
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Speaker 2: You know, that first tour out on a new record,
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Speaker 2: we're sort of testing the waters and, you know, give
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Speaker 2: it a couple of shows to see if the song's working.
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Speaker 2: And if it seems to fall a little flat, maybe
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Speaker 2: swap it out with another one, give that one a
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Speaker 2: test ride.
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Speaker 1: So we've done all that work prior to this tour.
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Speaker 1: We're bringing out the bangers, the new ones we know
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Speaker 1: are going to hit well live, which is great.
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Speaker 4: Very nice and as you mentioned it does follow the
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Speaker 4: arrival of the new record this consequence which has got
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Speaker 4: the massive track i believe on it so how do
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Speaker 4: you say you've been trying out like how have the
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Speaker 4: the new ones been going over live and was there
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Speaker 4: any that you thought it'd go really well that maybe
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Speaker 4: didn't or vice versa.
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Speaker 2: Yeah collusion we did a video for it and lyrically
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Speaker 2: to me personally it really speaks volumes about the world
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Speaker 2: we're living through now we're you know not to get
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Speaker 2: super deep um But recognizing the fact that the massive corporations,
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Speaker 2: the billionaires, if you will, are scratching each other's backs
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Speaker 2: and protecting each other while the common people are just
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Speaker 2: being smashed. The middle class is being smashed. And we're
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Speaker 2: all just paying higher prices. Our debts are getting bigger.
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Speaker 1: It's just a mess.
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Speaker 2: And I think it's planned. I think it's very intentional
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Speaker 2: to keep us divided and sort of suffering. So that
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Speaker 2: song is about that. you know, how these people are
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Speaker 2: just making backdoor deals that have nothing to do with
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Speaker 2: the best interest of the common people.
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Speaker 1: And I thought for sure that message in the song
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Speaker 1: is just powerful. It's different. But for some reason that just,
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Speaker 1: it kept kind of going flat.
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Speaker 2: People would like the song, but it didn't really quite
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Speaker 2: get the sing-alongs and the thing you really want with
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Speaker 2: that live song.
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Speaker 1: So we kind of swapped that one out.
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Speaker 4: Well, that would have been slightly disappointing, wouldn't it? Something
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Speaker 4: that you sort of thought was going to go well
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Speaker 4: and It happens. It happens a lot.
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately. I'd like to admit.
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Speaker 4: The song, I believe, has become the biggest radio hit
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Speaker 4: of your career, mate. That's got to feel pretty special
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Speaker 4: to know that after 25 years, more and more people
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Speaker 4: are getting into your music and appreciating what you do.
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Speaker 1: It is. It's an honor, really. And more than that,
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Speaker 1: I would say, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, being able to play that song live and people,
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Speaker 2: you can see the energy shift in the room. Once
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Speaker 2: the guitar riff starts, people react physically, you know, not
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Speaker 2: even just sonically.
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Speaker 1: Like I can see the body language change and.
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Speaker 2: People start jumping up and down or like they're getting
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Speaker 2: stoked for this next song. And it just fills my
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Speaker 2: heart with joy and like a sense of purpose too.
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Speaker 2: It's like the message that I carry in that song,
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Speaker 2: I think is pretty important to where we're living through
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Speaker 2: at the times we're living through. It's a lot of desperation,
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Speaker 2: a lot of, um, It feels pretty dismal if you're
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Speaker 2: really paying attention, you know, and that song is all
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Speaker 2: about keeping the faith, being hopeful that things will get better.
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Speaker 2: And it's sort of empowering to people. You know, we
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Speaker 2: can make a difference. It's just we have to believe
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Speaker 2: that we can. We have to band together to make
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Speaker 2: this difference. So it feels like a unity cry. And
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Speaker 2: to me, that's something that I really feel proud of.
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Speaker 2: That song has become sort of an anthem, you know,
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Speaker 2: and it's done really well in the rock charts, which
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Speaker 2: is really cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, Australia's a good point there, man.
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Speaker 4: You're talking about seeing the crowd react and then change physically. Like,
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Speaker 4: we only see it from the crowd perspective, you know,
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Speaker 4: when you're out there telling everyone to jump and the
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Speaker 4: whole crowd turn up. But from your perspective looking out, like,
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Speaker 4: one little thing like that could just change the whole
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Speaker 4: mood of your night, couldn't it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and, you know, the big thing for me, too,
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Speaker 2: is what I've really enjoyed is those moments where I
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Speaker 2: don't see phones in the air. We've had those beautiful
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Speaker 2: moments where people are actively engaging with us. singing along
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Speaker 2: uh and i love those moments i don't just you
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Speaker 2: know diss anybody for putting their phone up it happens
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Speaker 2: that's the modern age we're living in but those little
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Speaker 2: moments where i'm looking it's like very few phones and
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Speaker 2: more people just looking at us and singing along that's
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Speaker 2: the buzz that's like that's the stuff i love and
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Speaker 2: the stuff that i grew up with before we had
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Speaker 2: these big nothing worse than somebody holding like an ipad
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Speaker 2: you know just like ah come on put it.
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Speaker 1: Down That connection is everything.
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Speaker 2: Eye to eye, you're singing along, you're feeling it, making
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Speaker 2: me feel it even more.
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Speaker 1: That's the buzz. That's the best thing in the world.
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Speaker 3: I was just about to say that, man.
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Speaker 4: I've put up with people standing in front of me
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Speaker 4: with their phones because it happens, but I had a
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Speaker 4: guy with an iPad one night that big, and he'd
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Speaker 4: just come from nowhere and stood right in front of me,
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Speaker 4: and the iPad's gone up, and I'm just tapping him
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Speaker 4: on the shoulder.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, are you fucking serious, mate?
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Speaker 1: Honestly, honestly, how... often are you going to go back
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Speaker 1: and re-watch that and like.
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Speaker 4: What exactly my point but you never do you've been
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Speaker 4: you just want to go well that sounds like shit
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Speaker 4: and you never watch it again.
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Speaker 1: Get your get your little clip and then put it away.
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Speaker 5: Exactly man it's etiquette there should be such thing as
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Speaker 5: bone etiquette in a concert you personally spearheaded bringing british
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Speaker 5: thrash sort of heavy titan silosis out as your main
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Speaker 5: support man so what is it about josh middle songwriting.
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Speaker 4: And performance on the latest material i guess that made
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Speaker 4: you say, these guys have got to come out with this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been a fan of them since we first
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Speaker 2: toured with them in 2013.
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Speaker 1: I just admire that band. They're just a pure thrash band,
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Speaker 1: which I love. It doesn't really fit.
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Speaker 2: Stylistically with any particular genre, especially metalcore. To me, it's
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Speaker 2: such a bastardized term, and I'm sort of bored with
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Speaker 2: having too many bands that sound alike.
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Speaker 1: And I feel like the new Psilosis record just has teeth.
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Speaker 1: It feels vicious. It feels important.
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Speaker 2: And the riffs are just brilliant. And they're great guys.
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Speaker 2: So it was unanimous. All five of us were like silos.
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Speaker 1: The new record's killer. We all love Josh. We love
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Speaker 1: those guys. So they're good touring mates. We've already toured
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Speaker 1: with them before.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like it's a band that, especially with
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Speaker 2: this new album, it needs attention.
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Speaker 1: People need to hear this record. 100% man.
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Speaker 3: And I read somewhere that backstage at Aftershot, you mentioned
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Speaker 3: that you're pushing the rest of the guys to go
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Speaker 3: faster and heavier and harder with future items.
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Speaker 4: So do you think having someone like Solosis there is
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Speaker 4: going to help sort of push that next phase along
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Speaker 4: a little bit?
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Speaker 1: I hope so.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm one of five and I've got my
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Speaker 2: opinions and I respect very much what those guys will create.
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Speaker 1: And I think it should be natural.
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Speaker 2: You know, but I'm rooting for the, the hard and
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Speaker 2: heavy and fast, I feel like it just feels like
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Speaker 2: it's a good time to put out even just an EP,
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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of songs even of just some,
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Speaker 2: some really heavy stuff.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm coming from.
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Speaker 2: But, you know, again, we'll see what naturally comes out
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Speaker 2: of those guys as they write the music.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Cool, man.
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Speaker 4: Now you've openly stated that you love killing the rock
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Speaker 4: star mythos by heading straight to local pubs after a
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Speaker 4: gig to throw down a pint and have a yarn
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Speaker 4: with the fans. Well, Australian people sort of pretty much
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Speaker 4: take up on all those challenges, man. Like you're going
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Speaker 4: to be letting us know what pub you're going to
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Speaker 4: after the show or people got to walk around and
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Speaker 4: find you.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: I get to walk around and find us. I won't,
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Speaker 1: I won't give a direct, um, but don't be surprised if.
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Speaker 2: You're near ish the venue and you see five or
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Speaker 2: six dudes from band or crew roll up and start
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Speaker 2: pounding some beers. It's, it happened a bunch on the
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Speaker 2: last run we did with maiden and I assume it'll
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Speaker 2: be happening again.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I'll tell you, um, for sure in certain cities.
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Speaker 2: Like Melbourne, I have my haunts. I have my places
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Speaker 2: that I really like to go to. And I might even,
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Speaker 2: you know, this is a fairly recent development. I might
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Speaker 2: even be doing a little DJ set after party at
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Speaker 2: one of these shows too. So that'll be an easy
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Speaker 2: opportunity to come hang and I'll announce that from stage.
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Speaker 2: So there'll be at least one show where I'll be
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Speaker 2: saying the party's over here.
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Speaker 1: I'll be there. We'll see what happens.
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Speaker 3: Very cool. How do you go with that all around
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Speaker 3: the world?
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Speaker 4: People and fans are obviously different all around the world,
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Speaker 4: but Australians are very.
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Speaker 3: In your face, I guess. We tell you what we
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Speaker 3: mean and we're very.
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Speaker 4: From country to country, do you notice that difference between
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Speaker 4: chatting with fans?
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Speaker 1: I do, I do.
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Speaker 2: And we're all very comfortable with Australians, the culture. It
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Speaker 2: feels very similar to the northeastern United States where there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of ball busting or taking the piss.
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Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 2: A lot of clever jokes and sarcasm and wittiness. And
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Speaker 2: I think that's something we all love about Australian pub culture.
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Speaker 2: It's just fun, you know, and things tend to get
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Speaker 2: a little crazy, but as we've gotten older, we sort
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Speaker 2: of know when to call it. You know, I feel
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Speaker 2: in the younger years, there was a lot more blackout
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Speaker 2: drunks and a lot more waking up the next day
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Speaker 2: and like.
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Speaker 1: What did we do on this last tour?
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Speaker 2: You know, we recognize when we're old enough and we're
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Speaker 2: experienced enough to know, We got to call it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a cool time. That is the Australian
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Speaker 3: way though, bro.
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Speaker 4: Like I tell people, if I'm not paying out on
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Speaker 4: you and being sarcastic, it means I don't like you.
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Speaker 3: It's the exact opposite. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And that's something we all collectively, all of us, all
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Speaker 2: five of us love. It's just something about it, man.
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Speaker 2: It's familiar, but it's also the other side.
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Speaker 1: Of the world, which is incredible. It feels like a
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Speaker 1: second home for us. I feel like every Australian tour
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Speaker 1: we've done, has been a total blast. So that's why
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to come back. We're all stoked.
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Speaker 4: Aside from the major capitals like Brisbane and Sydney and
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Speaker 4: Melbourne you're playing, this tour's going to hit spots like
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Speaker 4: Waves in Wollongong that are.
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Speaker 3: A little bit off the beaten track.
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Speaker 4: Do you find that playing in a slightly more regional
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Speaker 4: and smaller scale rooms alters the vibe or makes that
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Speaker 4: connection more personal?
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Speaker 1: Personal. Small shows, less security, less barrier, more connection. To me, again....
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Speaker 2: The last tour we did was opening for Iron Maiden,
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Speaker 2: but they allowed us to do side shows. So we'd
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Speaker 2: go from playing an arena in front of, you know, 50,000
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Speaker 2: people to the next show playing in front of 450
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Speaker 2: people at a small club. Those small club shows were electric.
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Speaker 2: They were some of my favorite shows we played in
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Speaker 2: a decade because.
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Speaker 1: There's just nothing like it. There's nothing like that energy.
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Speaker 1: We're more face-to-face with you.
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Speaker 2: There's more opportunity for me to help you put the
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Speaker 2: mic in your face and you sing along. and when
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Speaker 2: you're in such a small space, you can feel that
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Speaker 2: in your chest, in your guts, you know, that's the buzz,
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Speaker 2: and that's where we come from, we're all from punk
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Speaker 2: and hardcore, we're all hardcore kids, so that's home for us,
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Speaker 2: that's home for me, I love small shows, and.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to do those ones, there's just an
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Speaker 1: electricity to it, you know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know that you like doing both the
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Speaker 4: outdoor and the indoor, but do you have to change
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Speaker 4: your mindset going into a show knowing that you're going
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Speaker 4: to be in the smaller one or the more expansive
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Speaker 4: one like does that come into it as a singer.
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Speaker 2: I think i put out the same energy no matter
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Speaker 2: what we're doing but there is a shift you know
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Speaker 2: when you're playing those bigger shows it's more about working
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Speaker 2: the stage yeah you know the the actions are bigger
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Speaker 2: it's much more of a spectacle i guess you could
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Speaker 2: say where the smaller shows it's more directed towards the
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Speaker 2: front row and the audience At a big show, I'll
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Speaker 2: do that.
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Speaker 1: But I'm also looking way up.
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Speaker 2: I'm also looking to try to connect with those people
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Speaker 2: who are just out of sight up in the top rows.
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Speaker 2: I'm putting my energy in different places where a small show,
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Speaker 2: it's a lot more direct.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more power with that and
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Speaker 1: a lot more connection that happens.
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Speaker 2: If you're in a room full of 400 people that
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Speaker 2: are all there for the same reason and the energy
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Speaker 2: is high, that's incredible.
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Speaker 1: It's a different kind of feeling.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool.
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Speaker 3: You recently commented on how the music industry is shifting.
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Speaker 4: You mentioned that albums might become optional and the bands
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Speaker 4: open to release in regular singles to move the chimes.
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Speaker 3: But you're a writer.
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Speaker 4: You put a lot of value and conceptual weight and
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Speaker 4: emotional threads in your music. Do you find the prospect
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Speaker 4: of having a shorter single-dribble cycle is more liberating or challenging,
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Speaker 4: do you think?
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Speaker 1: I think liberating for me at this point.
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Speaker 2: We put out enough records that the idea of putting
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Speaker 2: out an EP or a couple of songs here and
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Speaker 2: there in addition to eventually put out a record, I
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Speaker 2: think is fun for me. And the turnaround would be great.
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Speaker 2: You know, you put out a record and how many
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Speaker 2: of those songs do you actually play live?
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Speaker 1: Maybe four, maybe five.
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Speaker 2: So those other songs just kind of go by the wayside.
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Speaker 2: Why not just put out an EP? That's just my opinion.
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Speaker 2: Put out an EP with four songs that you for
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Speaker 2: sure are going to play live because everyone's like, these
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Speaker 2: songs rule.
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Speaker 1: It just cuts out.
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Speaker 2: The fat, I guess, and makes the touring cycle easier
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Speaker 2: and more frequent. And I think in this day and age,
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Speaker 2: why not adapt a little bit to the times? You know,
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Speaker 2: we're old school for sure. We both love, we all
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Speaker 2: love the format of an album. And like you said,
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Speaker 2: the concept of an album, but I think you can
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Speaker 2: pull it off in four or five songs as well.
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Speaker 2: Like an EP can still have a concept to it.
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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to try that if the guys are
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Speaker 2: open to it. I'm just putting it, sort of putting
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Speaker 2: it out there.
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Speaker 1: Into the universe to see. Because I think it'd be
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Speaker 1: fun to do that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: We're going to finish on a bit more of a
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Speaker 3: lighter note, mate. I've got a new segment.
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Speaker 4: I want to know what the first song was you
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Speaker 4: sung in the shower when you were a kid.
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Speaker 3: And do you still like that song today? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: A song that I warm up to on a pretty
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Speaker 2: regular basis, especially if we're like a couple of weeks
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Speaker 2: into a tour and I'm tired. I'm like, how am
16:54
Speaker 2: I doing today? I'll sing Whipping Post by the Allman Brothers.
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Speaker 2: One of my favorite songs of all time. And if
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Speaker 2: I can hit the high notes in that song, which
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Speaker 2: is close to the top of my range, I know
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Speaker 2: I'm in good shape. So, you know, on some of
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Speaker 2: those shows a couple of weeks into a tour, I'll
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Speaker 2: be back there 10 minutes before set singing that song.
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Speaker 1: And if I can hit all the notes, it just
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Speaker 1: gives me that confidence. Like my voice is good. I'm
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Speaker 1: good tonight.
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Speaker 3: What if you can't? What does it do to your
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Speaker 3: confidence then?
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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, all right, we're going to be careful here.
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Speaker 2: We're going to use technique to kind of get through
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Speaker 2: these things. And instead of just going out there, balls
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Speaker 2: to the wall, I'm sort of like relying more on
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Speaker 2: technique so I can pull it off without it sounding
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Speaker 2: like total shit.
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Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a lighthearted way to finish the show.
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Speaker 3: Not serious. All right, Jesse.
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Speaker 4: Well, thanks for your time, man. Been a pleasure chatting
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Speaker 4: with you. Kills which engage are in Australia from November.
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Speaker 4: As I said, three shows are sold out. The rest
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Speaker 4: are close to following suit. So get your tickets now
17:51
Speaker 4: and I'll see you in Brisbane.
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Speaker 1: My friend, I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Looking
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Speaker 1: forward to it, my friend.