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- 0:07Speaker 1: The Large nerd Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
- 0:10Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, Welcome to The Large Nerdrunk
- 0:22Speaker 1: Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the Gigi things
- 0:25Speaker 1: happening in the world around us and how very excited
- 0:28Speaker 1: we are about them. I'm Ariel casting, and with me
- 0:32Speaker 1: as always is a Renaissance Man. Jonathan Strickland. Huzzah, Gosh, Ariel.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I think you might have tipped your hand, but I
- 0:40Speaker 1: got a question for you, Okay, peek behind the curtain.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I did ask Ariel this question before we actually did
- 0:52Speaker 1: this episode, because it's one of those questions where you
- 0:55Speaker 1: might need to give it some thought. And while I
- 0:58Speaker 1: love watching Ariel struggle as she tries to come up
- 1:01Speaker 1: with answers, it doesn't make for the best audio because
- 1:04Speaker 1: it's just quiet. So Ariel, here's your question. You have
- 1:08Speaker 1: played a lot of different characters at the Renaissance Festival
- 1:12Speaker 1: as a member of cast, But what is one character
- 1:15Speaker 1: you have not played but you would like a shot at.
- 1:19Speaker 1: You See, this is very difficult because I've played almost
- 1:22Speaker 1: everything you can play at Fair. I've been made, I've
- 1:26Speaker 1: been a kissing wench, I've been a musician, which people
- 1:29Speaker 1: might say doesn't count, but it totally counts because I
- 1:32Speaker 1: had a character. Um, I've been various court members and
- 1:36Speaker 1: peasants and things like that. I've been in scenario. I've
- 1:39Speaker 1: been a combatant runner up is I would love to
- 1:42Speaker 1: be like a main villain. I played a main villain
- 1:45Speaker 1: at in scenario at Fair one year, Amelia Ownair because
- 1:49Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be Amelia Ownair. Uh. She got
- 1:53Speaker 1: downgraded from like major villain to like just Snyde court
- 1:57Speaker 1: member because they changed scenario halfway through the year. So like,
- 2:01Speaker 1: I've been a scenario villain, but I haven't really like
- 2:03Speaker 1: been a scenario villain. But the one character, the one,
- 2:07Speaker 1: the only character I can really think of that I
- 2:10Speaker 1: haven't played. The only kind of like class of character
- 2:13Speaker 1: I haven't played is Ferry, and I think that would
- 2:15Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Um. I would probably be
- 2:18Speaker 1: like a water sprite or something like that. Let's go figure. Yeah,
- 2:23Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah. So I'm very curious because I
- 2:26Speaker 1: actually don't know the A Millionaire story because I wasn't
- 2:30Speaker 1: part of cast that season. Um, but was it something
- 2:34Speaker 1: where you actually did start out halfway through or start
- 2:37Speaker 1: out at the beginning of the season, with a scenario
- 2:40Speaker 1: in one form that literally changed halfway through the season. Yes, yes,
- 2:45Speaker 1: so originally you were going to have these like and
- 2:49Speaker 1: and here's the thing like it obviously wasn't the strongest
- 2:51Speaker 1: scenario because I can't even quite tell you exactly where
- 2:54Speaker 1: it was going to be. But we had these court
- 2:55Speaker 1: members who were conspiring against the court, uh, and we're
- 2:59Speaker 1: going to be made villains and I was one of them.
- 3:01Speaker 1: And then they brought pirates in, and then the pirates
- 3:03Speaker 1: became the villains, and the court members ended up just
- 3:06Speaker 1: doing a who's the best of Newcastle? Have a peasant
- 3:10Speaker 1: win a prize. Maybe we're trying to get the crown
- 3:13Speaker 1: or something like that. But originally all the court members
- 3:16Speaker 1: were going to be the villains trying to kind of
- 3:18Speaker 1: overthrow the royalty, and then that got moved over to pirates.
- 3:22Speaker 1: So we just became this weird, like tertiary group of
- 3:25Speaker 1: really annoying, spoiled like nobility basically no interesting. So so
- 3:30Speaker 1: when the season started, by that time, it was already
- 3:32Speaker 1: the pirates who were the bad guys. Okay, yeah, it
- 3:36Speaker 1: was during rehearsals that it changed, and it was really bizarre.
- 3:39Speaker 1: That's that's very upsetting. I mean, so I have played
- 3:43Speaker 1: the main villain or one of two main villains in
- 3:47Speaker 1: the festival. Of course, it helps that I wrote the scenario. Um.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Turns out, if you really, if you really want to
- 3:55Speaker 1: make sure that you've secured your spot, you just you're
- 3:58Speaker 1: the one who writes the script. Um. But yeah, that
- 4:01Speaker 1: that stinks because you would have made such a such
- 4:03Speaker 1: a fantastic villain in scenario. It's unfortunate that that got rewritten. Uh.
- 4:08Speaker 1: And it's also funny that you said that, because my
- 4:11Speaker 1: answer for me is, so I I've played the mayor
- 4:15Speaker 1: of the town. I played the Lord Admiral, who was
- 4:17Speaker 1: kind of like Amelia Nair, you know, a snooty, nasty
- 4:21Speaker 1: kind of member of court. Um. And I've played Hugo
- 4:25Speaker 1: Haunt as town ghost, who turns out was not actually
- 4:29Speaker 1: a ghost, but was a villager who had the job
- 4:31Speaker 1: of being town ghost, which is lead for an interesting comedy.
- 4:37Speaker 1: I played a villain who a French villain who was
- 4:39Speaker 1: very much based on uh uh, Count Rochefort from the
- 4:44Speaker 1: Three Musketeers. Um. And I played William Shakespeare. But I've
- 4:49Speaker 1: never played a pirate. Now, I wouldn't want to steal
- 4:52Speaker 1: scenario from you. I don't want to be that kind
- 4:56Speaker 1: of pirate, but I never got to play a pirate.
- 4:59Speaker 1: And and yes, you know, we acknowledge Renaissance Fair frequently
- 5:04Speaker 1: has characters far outside the Renaissance. We have had characters
- 5:08Speaker 1: that date from the Middle Ages, like Robin Hood and such.
- 5:13Speaker 1: And we've had characters who come after the Renaissance era,
- 5:17Speaker 1: like the Musketeers and pirates during the Golden Age of Piracy,
- 5:20Speaker 1: which is like a century and a half out of
- 5:23Speaker 1: when we would typically think of the Renaissance. But the
- 5:26Speaker 1: Renaissance Fair is a very much, you know, fantastical kind
- 5:30Speaker 1: of amusement park. And so but yeah, I I never
- 5:33Speaker 1: got a chance to play a pirate, and I think
- 5:35Speaker 1: it would be fun to play kind of play a
- 5:36Speaker 1: gentleman pirate type character, not necessarily you know, a down
- 5:44Speaker 1: in dirty swashbuckler, but more like maybe like a Captain
- 5:48Speaker 1: Hook kind of character. You see, this will probably not
- 5:51Speaker 1: ever happen, but if you ever did go in as
- 5:54Speaker 1: like a Captain Hook character, I'd love to be yours me.
- 5:56Speaker 1: I think, like in my brain, I've played a pirate.
- 5:58Speaker 1: I've never played like officially a pirate of fair, but
- 6:01Speaker 1: I've been Scarlet Laruge enough in your stories together that
- 6:06Speaker 1: my brain is just like, oh, yep, you've been a
- 6:08Speaker 1: pirate ariel. Yes, that's true. I have. There are a
- 6:11Speaker 1: series of stories I would tell as the Admiral where
- 6:14Speaker 1: the Admiral had this uh, this arch nemesis, a woman pirate,
- 6:19Speaker 1: Scarlet Larouge, who frequently would take him prisoner, and the
- 6:23Speaker 1: story always ended with him uh indicating that at some
- 6:27Speaker 1: point the Admiral and Scarlett Laruge got married. But that
- 6:31Speaker 1: was a story for another time. And I always had
- 6:33Speaker 1: I always had arial stand in as she was playing
- 6:36Speaker 1: a a French noblewoman, a fashion consultant to the queen
- 6:41Speaker 1: who wears pink, and I would explain that Scarlett Larrouge
- 6:45Speaker 1: looks an awful lot like this character, but obviously it
- 6:47Speaker 1: couldn't be the same person, because Scarlet wore red and
- 6:50Speaker 1: this person wears pink. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. Yeah,
- 6:55Speaker 1: very very silly, very cartoony. Like the the way we
- 6:58Speaker 1: played characters that are festival was over the top. We
- 7:02Speaker 1: we always said, it's kind of like a Looney Tunes
- 7:04Speaker 1: or Muppets kind of approach to character building. Anyway, I
- 7:09Speaker 1: was curious about that and I thought like the kind
- 7:11Speaker 1: of episode we're doing today is more lucy goosey kind
- 7:15Speaker 1: of general conversation and exploring topics and getting to know
- 7:20Speaker 1: each other and each other's likes and dislikes and allowing
- 7:24Speaker 1: our audience to get a glimpse on that. So we
- 7:26Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about something that, uh,
- 7:31Speaker 1: we think is is relevant in in geek culture, and
- 7:35Speaker 1: that is to talk about things that just don't click
- 7:39Speaker 1: with us. And not to say that these are things
- 7:41Speaker 1: that are bad or that are poorly made, or that
- 7:43Speaker 1: don't deserve the love they get, but that for whatever reason,
- 7:48Speaker 1: we just never connected with those properties. Yes, So I'm
- 7:54Speaker 1: going to start because this is one that I'm I'm
- 7:56Speaker 1: told i'm wrong for all the time, which is I'm
- 8:00Speaker 1: not a huge fan of Firefly. Yeah, and brown coats
- 8:04Speaker 1: or Firefly fans, uh can can be so protective of
- 8:09Speaker 1: the thing they love that they can sometimes be somewhat
- 8:13Speaker 1: aggressive towards people who do not share that love. Yeah.
- 8:16Speaker 1: So I mean for me, it started, uh and for
- 8:19Speaker 1: anybody who has heard this story before, I apologize. It
- 8:23Speaker 1: started because I was told I should watch this show,
- 8:25Speaker 1: and every time it was on television, Uh, it would
- 8:29Speaker 1: be the Heart of Gold episode, which is the episode
- 8:31Speaker 1: where they I think, first meet Saffron. They go to
- 8:33Speaker 1: a planet. It's got a lot of prostitutes there. Uh,
- 8:38Speaker 1: and it's an okay episode, but like when that's all
- 8:42Speaker 1: you ever see, it's like when you put on an
- 8:43Speaker 1: Enterprise and all you ever see is a vulcan showering, Like, well,
- 8:48Speaker 1: this isn't enough story to get me. So by the
- 8:50Speaker 1: time that I did watch the entire series, Wanta had
- 8:54Speaker 1: been overhyped. Two I already had kind of this boredom
- 9:00Speaker 1: from it, and then three, like I like scoundrels as
- 9:05Speaker 1: not as much as the next person, but everybody is
- 9:09Speaker 1: a scoundrel. There's there's very little actual heroicism in it,
- 9:13Speaker 1: which somebody pointed out to me who also didn't like
- 9:16Speaker 1: for Escape. So when I did go and watch the
- 9:17Speaker 1: entire series, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, if
- 9:21Speaker 1: every character on your show is Han Solo and there's
- 9:25Speaker 1: no Luke Skywalker, it can I can see what you
- 9:29Speaker 1: mean by getting overwhelming. I think for a lot of people.
- 9:33Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the quirky dialogue did a lot, but
- 9:37Speaker 1: I also think that clearly the performances right, the actual
- 9:41Speaker 1: performances by the actors really drew people in. I can't
- 9:45Speaker 1: disagree with your assessment. I liked Firefly when it was
- 9:48Speaker 1: first on. As time goes on and as I reevaluate
- 9:53Speaker 1: Josh Weeden's work, uh, not just within the scope of
- 9:57Speaker 1: knowing more about Josh Weeden as a person and but
- 10:01Speaker 1: just critically evaluating what was actually being said, my opinion
- 10:07Speaker 1: of his works has probably gone down a little bit.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Like things that I once genuinely enjoyed, I don't feel
- 10:17Speaker 1: the desire to revisit again. It's not to say that
- 10:20Speaker 1: they were bad or that anyone working on those shows
- 10:22Speaker 1: did a bad job. Also doesn't help that, um uh,
- 10:26Speaker 1: it's Adam Baldwin, I believe right who played James. It
- 10:30Speaker 1: doesn't help that I find that particular actors personal uh
- 10:36Speaker 1: beliefs and behaviors to be rather distasteful, and that doesn't
- 10:41Speaker 1: like it's hard for me to watch something with him
- 10:43Speaker 1: in it. Same with Chuck. The performances were really good,
- 10:47Speaker 1: and you know the that you can really like characters
- 10:52Speaker 1: if even if you don't like the story that they're in.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I have a couple of others, But what about you,
- 10:56Speaker 1: geez Ariel, I mean like the ones that didn't click
- 11:01Speaker 1: with me are ones that will get me so much hate. Um.
- 11:04Speaker 1: And so I'll give you two. You can choose whichever
- 11:07Speaker 1: one you want to talk about more with me. But
- 11:10Speaker 1: Avatar the Last Airbender is one of them, and Doctor
- 11:13Speaker 1: Who is another one, And those fan bases are incredibly
- 11:18Speaker 1: passionate about those properties, and I just don't get either
- 11:23Speaker 1: of them. I mean, but you see, I really want
- 11:25Speaker 1: to talk about them both. But okay, well we'll do
- 11:27Speaker 1: that if we have time. So let's talk about Doctor Who. Why,
- 11:31Speaker 1: as an avid Doctor Who fan, having grown up with it, um,
- 11:35Speaker 1: why did it not click with you? This is an
- 11:37Speaker 1: excellent question, and I'm not certain I can fully answer it.
- 11:41Speaker 1: I So, I a Doctor Who was one of those
- 11:44Speaker 1: things that I was tangentially aware of when I was
- 11:47Speaker 1: a kid, Like I was aware of the old series
- 11:51Speaker 1: before it went on a very long hiatus, um. And
- 11:55Speaker 1: in fact, I was going to science fiction conventions where
- 11:57Speaker 1: some of the actors who had played some of the
- 11:59Speaker 1: Doctor there's, like John per Twee, would be guests at
- 12:03Speaker 1: those conventions, and I could see that there was a
- 12:05Speaker 1: genuine love. But I never I had never watched the show,
- 12:08Speaker 1: and whenever I saw a clip, it always looked like
- 12:11Speaker 1: a very low budget, slow talky kind of show, and
- 12:16Speaker 1: at the time it just didn't interest You mean like
- 12:18Speaker 1: a BBC show, Yeah, um, like a like a Shakespeare
- 12:22Speaker 1: play but with robots. I guess, I don't know. It
- 12:25Speaker 1: just wasn't doing anything for me as a kid. So
- 12:28Speaker 1: I know I get that even though Shakespeare with robots
- 12:31Speaker 1: sounds like it's up, you're out. Oh no, today I
- 12:34Speaker 1: would eat that up. But as a kid, it just
- 12:36Speaker 1: to me it was too slow. I didn't I didn't
- 12:39Speaker 1: care for it. Then flash forward to the reboot with
- 12:43Speaker 1: Chris eccleston coming in as the new doctor. Um, I
- 12:46Speaker 1: just I didn't get on the ground floor because I
- 12:48Speaker 1: didn't have that connection to the older doctors to like
- 12:51Speaker 1: have that point where I felt the hook to watch
- 12:54Speaker 1: the new stuff. I finally started watching the New Stuff
- 12:57Speaker 1: after hearing multiple friends gush about it, and the first
- 13:03Speaker 1: few eccleston episodes didn't get me at all. It wasn't
- 13:06Speaker 1: until the one where it's the kids with the gas
- 13:09Speaker 1: masks dances. Yes, that's the one that got me, only
- 13:17Speaker 1: because the doctor has that moment where he realizes that
- 13:21Speaker 1: he can save everyone, and he is legitimately joyful and excited,
- 13:27Speaker 1: and you realize that the reason for that is because
- 13:30Speaker 1: it's such a rare thing that he usually has to
- 13:33Speaker 1: resign himself to the fact that no matter what he does,
- 13:37Speaker 1: someone is going to suffer. And for it to be
- 13:40Speaker 1: a situation where he can actually rescue everyone, it is
- 13:46Speaker 1: something truly special and that connected with me. I felt that, like,
- 13:50Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is for the first time
- 13:52Speaker 1: for watching these I feel something. Yeah. And then I
- 13:57Speaker 1: tried to watch more of it and I was like,
- 13:59Speaker 1: it's just not like I watched all the way through
- 14:02Speaker 1: the Tenants stuff. I got through Smith, I think, and
- 14:07Speaker 1: then I stopped. Um, yeah, and then I just it
- 14:12Speaker 1: just again, like I kept watching out of almost a
- 14:14Speaker 1: sense of obligation, but it never connected to me again
- 14:17Speaker 1: on that same level. I get it. For For me,
- 14:21Speaker 1: those two episodes Empty Child and The Doctor Dances are
- 14:23Speaker 1: the best episodes of the reboot, just flat out because
- 14:27Speaker 1: they do connect so well. They're scary, their tents, they're
- 14:32Speaker 1: so very human. Um, which is a weird thing to
- 14:35Speaker 1: say about a show about nannites and and aliens, but um,
- 14:40Speaker 1: it's It's definitely one of those things where the show
- 14:45Speaker 1: has so many different tones to it that you almost
- 14:48Speaker 1: need to pinpoint the episodes you like and then have
- 14:52Speaker 1: someone who likes it all go in and say, Okay,
- 14:54Speaker 1: just watch these episodes and I'll give you the wiki
- 14:57Speaker 1: articles to fill in the gaps between them. And even
- 15:00Speaker 1: for me and I love Doctor Who, there are just
- 15:03Speaker 1: spans of it that I'm like, that episode was okay,
- 15:06Speaker 1: that that was just me wasting an hour, and I
- 15:08Speaker 1: think the next time that it really really hit me.
- 15:10Speaker 1: There were there were a few moments, but it was
- 15:13Speaker 1: the most recent Doctor not Jenny Whittaker, but Peter Capaldi.
- 15:17Speaker 1: His second season with Bob, who is his second companion
- 15:21Speaker 1: after Clara Um was really good because again it hit
- 15:25Speaker 1: some of those those moments of I'm tired, I can't
- 15:29Speaker 1: save everybody, and that's wearing on me again whenever they
- 15:32Speaker 1: hit those tones, like it's such a more genuine experience,
- 15:36Speaker 1: but it's so far and few between. We know that
- 15:38Speaker 1: these properties to some degree or another, uh have fan
- 15:43Speaker 1: bases that genuinely love those shows. I mean, like Ariel
- 15:47Speaker 1: loves Dr Who and I just don't get it. We also,
- 15:51Speaker 1: you know, again, understand this doesn't make those shows bad.
- 15:54Speaker 1: It just means that for whatever reason, we didn't connect
- 15:56Speaker 1: with them, It didn't touch that that geek button inside
- 16:01Speaker 1: of us that makes us, you know, explore everything about
- 16:05Speaker 1: the show and devour it and like learn about all
- 16:08Speaker 1: the extra material around the show, whether it's behind the
- 16:12Speaker 1: scenes or stuff that connects things like the comic books
- 16:14Speaker 1: and novelizations and all that. It just didn't hit hit
- 16:17Speaker 1: for us, And that's okay. Like, I think it's good
- 16:21Speaker 1: to know that it's okay to be a geek about
- 16:24Speaker 1: some things and have other things just not work for
- 16:26Speaker 1: you and that's fine. Yeah, I mean that's part of
- 16:29Speaker 1: the nice thing about media is there's there's such a
- 16:31Speaker 1: diverse amount of it that everything isn't going to hit
- 16:34Speaker 1: every person the same way, right, Yeah, And and it's okay,
- 16:38Speaker 1: like yeah, and it And also if you happen to
- 16:41Speaker 1: be one of those people where you just don't get it,
- 16:45Speaker 1: like there are people going gaga about this thing and
- 16:47Speaker 1: you just don't get it. I mean, I know it
- 16:49Speaker 1: can be tempting to sometimes say, like this just doesn't
- 16:52Speaker 1: work or whatever, but you know, let people enjoy what
- 16:55Speaker 1: they like and just accept that, like, Okay, this just
- 16:58Speaker 1: wasn't for me. I mean, I get it. Sometimes that happens.
- 17:02Speaker 1: That's a lesson I've had to learn the hard way
- 17:04Speaker 1: because I was definitely one of those internet jerks who
- 17:06Speaker 1: would chime in, like, but actually the thing you like
- 17:10Speaker 1: isn't good objectively, And I'll prove it in this fourteen
- 17:13Speaker 1: page essay I like to call Jonathan is a total jerk.
- 17:17Speaker 1: But I've grown since then. Well that's too bad, because
- 17:20Speaker 1: after this break, we're going to let you give an
- 17:21Speaker 1: essay on the things that you like that not other
- 17:23Speaker 1: people did like because they're total jerks. Fair enough, Okay,
- 17:29Speaker 1: Well they get to that right after this break. So Ariel,
- 17:44Speaker 1: we talked. I don't know if you remember this. It
- 17:46Speaker 1: happened like fifteen seconds ago, but we talked about things
- 17:50Speaker 1: that just didn't connect with us that other people genuinely like,
- 17:54Speaker 1: and we kind of talked about why it just didn't
- 17:56Speaker 1: work for us. Now we're going to talk about things
- 17:59Speaker 1: we liked that, for some reason or another didn't seem
- 18:03Speaker 1: to gather the ground swell of support they would need
- 18:07Speaker 1: to continue being a thing. So with that in mind,
- 18:11Speaker 1: and I know you've got a couple where they lasted
- 18:13Speaker 1: a long time. But in those cases, the audience was
- 18:17Speaker 1: really a niche audience, and it was sort of special circumstances.
- 18:21Speaker 1: But why don't you talk about a property or series
- 18:25Speaker 1: that you really like that you feel just I just
- 18:28Speaker 1: didn't catch on to a wide mainstream audience. Okay, So uh,
- 18:35Speaker 1: it's hard because Far Escape is the top of that list,
- 18:37Speaker 1: because when I talk to someone who likes general sci fi,
- 18:41Speaker 1: most of them haven't watched it. It's people who are
- 18:45Speaker 1: into all things sci fi that tend to have watched.
- 18:47Speaker 1: An exception of Jonathan, I'm guilty of not having watched
- 18:52Speaker 1: I think I may have seen maybe twenty minutes of
- 18:56Speaker 1: Our Escape total, and and like it's It's interesting to
- 19:00Speaker 1: me because when I first watched it, I didn't watch
- 19:01Speaker 1: it when it originally aired. I saw it was coming out.
- 19:04Speaker 1: I was super interested into it because who doesn't like
- 19:07Speaker 1: Muppets in Space. I mean, that's that's the worst Muppet movie.
- 19:15Speaker 1: I mean it is Muppets in Space is the worst.
- 19:17Speaker 1: I think it's Muppets from Space. But that's the worst
- 19:20Speaker 1: Muppet movie. Yeah, well Muppets from Space, Pigs in Space regardless,
- 19:26Speaker 1: sci fi and Muppets to me are fun. Even though
- 19:29Speaker 1: that movie was bad, it has nothing to do with
- 19:31Speaker 1: for our escape, and so I was like, Jim Henson,
- 19:33Speaker 1: Jim Henson helping with the science fiction to bring all
- 19:37Speaker 1: these aliens to life, that just sounds amazing. And then
- 19:39Speaker 1: I missed it, and then my husband brought me back
- 19:42Speaker 1: to it and I watched it, and like the first
- 19:43Speaker 1: two or three episodes, I was like, I don't know
- 19:46Speaker 1: if I could get into this because the puppets just
- 19:49Speaker 1: seem to attached to puppety for the rest of the story,
- 19:57Speaker 1: which is not me at all, Like that's not how
- 20:01Speaker 1: I think about puppets ever, really um, But then somewhere
- 20:05Speaker 1: in the middle of the first season, it's really one
- 20:07Speaker 1: of those shows to me that you've got to watch
- 20:10Speaker 1: through the first half of the first season, which is
- 20:12Speaker 1: just okay, and then towards the end of the first
- 20:14Speaker 1: season beginning of the second it really gets its ground
- 20:16Speaker 1: and figure figures out what it wants to be and
- 20:18Speaker 1: gets ridiculous and then it's just a ton of fun
- 20:21Speaker 1: slash gut wrenching. But again, it's one of those things
- 20:23Speaker 1: that like, if you aren't familiar with it and you
- 20:26Speaker 1: go into it, those first few episodes may not catch you,
- 20:30Speaker 1: and it's it's really a hidden gem, you know, even
- 20:34Speaker 1: for shows that ended up getting pretty popular and there
- 20:38Speaker 1: are considered kind of the foundations of science fiction, at
- 20:42Speaker 1: least at least the current era of science fiction, stuff
- 20:46Speaker 1: like Star Trek the Next Generation. I challenge anyone, anyone
- 20:50Speaker 1: listening to this podcast to go back and watch the
- 20:53Speaker 1: first season of Star Trek the Next Generation and ask
- 20:57Speaker 1: yourself the question does this show deserve to get renewed
- 21:00Speaker 1: for a second season and come up with a positive
- 21:03Speaker 1: because that first season was rof Yes. The The other
- 21:09Speaker 1: show that is very much like that for me is
- 21:10Speaker 1: Lost because you have to get through the first ten
- 21:13Speaker 1: episodes before anything really intriguing happens. That explains why I
- 21:17Speaker 1: dropped off. In fact, I made a very good friend
- 21:21Speaker 1: of mine watched the first ten episodes, and by the
- 21:24Speaker 1: end of it, she was like, I'm done. I hate
- 21:25Speaker 1: I don't want to watch any more of the show.
- 21:27Speaker 1: I'm like, but now it's going to get good. She's like,
- 21:28Speaker 1: but now I don't want to watch anymore. Um, and
- 21:30Speaker 1: I know a lot of people had problems throughout. It
- 21:32Speaker 1: seemed many times like the writers were just throwing darts
- 21:35Speaker 1: at a dartboard. Is the best description I've heard of it,
- 21:38Speaker 1: it's not my own. And then making the actors do
- 21:40Speaker 1: improv scenes based on where the darts ended to tell
- 21:43Speaker 1: the story. Um. And then the scene you see a
- 21:49Speaker 1: polar bear. Yes. And then the ending was much like
- 21:54Speaker 1: so many other sci fi shows that Pete got a
- 21:57Speaker 1: pretty big following, was very very hum For many people,
- 22:01Speaker 1: they didn't like it, but um, yeah, that's another one
- 22:04Speaker 1: that I actually really like. I didn't mind the ending.
- 22:06Speaker 1: I didn't mind the first ten episodes getting into it.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Um yeah, I enjoyed it for what it was, which
- 22:12Speaker 1: was a big old train wreck. But but Lost, Lost
- 22:15Speaker 1: actually had a really big following, like it was definitely
- 22:18Speaker 1: one of those that had people talking week to week
- 22:22Speaker 1: like the two shows. I can remember people at work
- 22:24Speaker 1: talking about We're Survivor, a reality TV series that I
- 22:31Speaker 1: have very low opinions of, and then Lost and Uh,
- 22:34Speaker 1: I didn't watch Lost when it first came on, so
- 22:37Speaker 1: I tried watching it when it hit Netflix. And I
- 22:40Speaker 1: think Lost is one of those shows that benefits from
- 22:43Speaker 1: having a week between episodes, because that gives you that
- 22:49Speaker 1: chance to have, like all the theories and speculate what
- 22:53Speaker 1: does this mean and wonder what's going to happen next
- 22:56Speaker 1: and build anticipation and enthusiasm, whereas when you can just
- 23:00Speaker 1: bene it and find out the answer immediately afterward, you
- 23:04Speaker 1: don't benefit from that that gap, right Like we saw
- 23:08Speaker 1: that with One Division and Falcon and the Winter Soldier,
- 23:11Speaker 1: we're seeing it now with Loki. That when you get
- 23:15Speaker 1: to the end of an episode, you you are eagerly
- 23:18Speaker 1: anticipating the next one, and because you cannot immediately gratify
- 23:22Speaker 1: that desire, you are left to ruminate on what you've seen.
- 23:28Speaker 1: So I never got into Lost, Um, but for me
- 23:31Speaker 1: like a show that I genuinely loved, but it just
- 23:36Speaker 1: never got enough. There's actually two I can tell you about,
- 23:39Speaker 1: because there's one I just remembered. So there's one from
- 23:43Speaker 1: the early nineties. I don't even know if you've seen it,
- 23:46Speaker 1: arial but it was called Wizards and Warriors. It lasted
- 23:52Speaker 1: six episodes. It was a series where you had Eric
- 23:58Speaker 1: Graystone the hero and Dirk Blackpool the villain. Um and
- 24:04Speaker 1: it was I would say it was sort of a
- 24:07Speaker 1: predecessor two shows like Xena and Hercules. You know, those
- 24:12Speaker 1: sort of comedic action fantasy shows, the shows that they're
- 24:16Speaker 1: not comedies, but they have a lot of comedic elements
- 24:19Speaker 1: worked into them. Wizards of Warriors was that way. I
- 24:22Speaker 1: had a lot of comedic moments built into the show.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Was this based off of the old game Wizards and Warriors.
- 24:29Speaker 1: This was just a fantasy action series, and it was
- 24:34Speaker 1: in the early nineteen eighties, so everyone had the eighties hair,
- 24:39Speaker 1: um and you. It was just really entertaining. I actually
- 24:43Speaker 1: have a a don't tell anyone, everyone out there listening,
- 24:47Speaker 1: don't tell anyone. I have a bootleg. I have a
- 24:49Speaker 1: bootleg DVD of that series because it never lasted beyond
- 24:54Speaker 1: like six episodes, so these are all like taped off
- 24:58Speaker 1: the television episode that have been burned to DVD. Um.
- 25:03Speaker 1: But it's it's a really entertaining show. I don't think
- 25:06Speaker 1: I have watched it. I'm looking at pictures and like
- 25:09Speaker 1: the main who I'm guessing is the main dude? It
- 25:12Speaker 1: looks familiar, but well if you if you've seen the Warriors,
- 25:16Speaker 1: then that would be why he So it's an actor
- 25:20Speaker 1: who's been in lots of other stuff, everything with the
- 25:22Speaker 1: name Warrior, with the word warrior. We'll talk about him later,
- 25:26Speaker 1: but uh yeah, it's maybe so Ariel and I are
- 25:28Speaker 1: gonna be hanging out later this month, which is exciting
- 25:32Speaker 1: because I haven't seen you in ages. Later this month
- 25:35Speaker 1: when we're recording this. I don't know when this will air,
- 25:37Speaker 1: but later this month, we're gonna hang out and maybe
- 25:40Speaker 1: I'll bring the DVD so we can watch some of it,
- 25:42Speaker 1: because it is cheesy, and I think it's the sort
- 25:45Speaker 1: of cheesy that the friends who will be at that
- 25:47Speaker 1: gathering will be into, um, So I'll use that one
- 25:51Speaker 1: my other one just to mention it. I won't go
- 25:53Speaker 1: into detail because we're going to run over time otherwise,
- 25:57Speaker 1: but the other one I would love I would mention
- 25:59Speaker 1: is The advent Cheurs of Briscoe County, Jr. Which was
- 26:02Speaker 1: a science fiction western starring Bruce Campbell as the aforementioned
- 26:07Speaker 1: Briscoe County Jr. And was really fun and quirky, but
- 26:13Speaker 1: it also got a little too wrapped up in its
- 26:16Speaker 1: own lore um to the point where halfway through that
- 26:21Speaker 1: that season, you just felt like, this show is way
- 26:24Speaker 1: too convoluted. And then I think the show runners since that,
- 26:28Speaker 1: and they very quickly wrapped up that storyline in a
- 26:33Speaker 1: not terribly satisfying way in order to make it a
- 26:36Speaker 1: more straightforward western comedy. Series, but by then it was
- 26:41Speaker 1: already too late and the series and the series was canceled,
- 26:44Speaker 1: which is a shame because I think it might be
- 26:46Speaker 1: my favorite thing that I've seen Bruce Campbell do. It
- 26:48Speaker 1: is it is incredibly charming and Um, the actor who
- 26:51Speaker 1: played show enough in the Last Dragon played a bounty
- 26:56Speaker 1: hunter named Lord Bowler. He has sadly passed away since then,
- 27:01Speaker 1: but Lord Bowler was a great comedic foil to Briscoe
- 27:04Speaker 1: County Jr. It was just a fun show. Um, But
- 27:09Speaker 1: you know it's interesting. We're going to now go into
- 27:12Speaker 1: another break and when we come back, we're going to
- 27:14Speaker 1: mash up a couple of properties, which we will talk
- 27:16Speaker 1: about a little bit before we go into our our
- 27:19Speaker 1: various mashups. I will say, uh Ariel and I we
- 27:23Speaker 1: haven't shared our mashups with each other yet, but we've
- 27:26Speaker 1: each said that for once, we did not go with
- 27:29Speaker 1: a comedy approach. So get ready for some serious mashing
- 27:35Speaker 1: up after this break. Okay, Ariel, We've got two properties
- 27:55Speaker 1: were mashing up, and one of them we have already
- 27:57Speaker 1: mentioned in this episode, which is Lost. So do you
- 28:01Speaker 1: mind giving people like a brief overview of what Lost is?
- 28:06Speaker 1: Just in case they're not. They're like me and they're
- 28:08Speaker 1: one of those people just missed out on the whole thing. Sure,
- 28:11Speaker 1: So Lost is a story about a bunch of people
- 28:13Speaker 1: on Oceanic flight eight fift that crashes on a mysterious island. Uh.
- 28:18Speaker 1: The entire show is them trying to get off the
- 28:20Speaker 1: island and back home as crazy, weird things happen around
- 28:24Speaker 1: the island. There's like polar bears, There's a mysterious smoke
- 28:27Speaker 1: monster that makes horrible noises and rattles trees. Eventually you
- 28:31Speaker 1: find out that there uh spoiler for anybody who wants
- 28:34Speaker 1: to watch it. There are the others who were a
- 28:36Speaker 1: part of the Dharma initiative who liked this island for
- 28:40Speaker 1: it's like temporal properties, it's moving around in spacetime kind
- 28:44Speaker 1: of Um. It was very convoluted. They always changed things.
- 28:48Speaker 1: They killed off a lot of characters you liked, like
- 28:51Speaker 1: precursory Game of Thrones, if Game of Thrones was modern
- 28:54Speaker 1: and not about royalty. Um, but it was you know,
- 28:58Speaker 1: it was always fun and interesting to hard to figure
- 29:00Speaker 1: out where they were going to go. They had numbers
- 29:03Speaker 1: that kept popping up, and they had this whole like
- 29:06Speaker 1: mini cosmo around the show where people would try to
- 29:10Speaker 1: get these clues and figure out what was going to
- 29:12Speaker 1: happen next and what was going on and who knows
- 29:14Speaker 1: if there ever really were answers to it. I did
- 29:16Speaker 1: not have that much time to invest into the show,
- 29:18Speaker 1: but it was it was a good a good sci
- 29:21Speaker 1: fi based on Survivor. I suppose well it was. It
- 29:25Speaker 1: was one of again, it was one of those things
- 29:27Speaker 1: that generated a lot of talk between episodes, like it
- 29:31Speaker 1: gave people plenty of time to to formulate theories, some
- 29:35Speaker 1: of which maybe the show runners saw and maybe even
- 29:38Speaker 1: incorporated into the show or specifically steered the show away
- 29:42Speaker 1: from uh there. You know, there haven't been too many
- 29:46Speaker 1: discussions that went into how much, if at all, the
- 29:49Speaker 1: fans affected the direction of Lost Um, but it was
- 29:54Speaker 1: definitely one of those that had, like that really passionate
- 29:57Speaker 1: fan base that was eager to you discussed their own
- 30:01Speaker 1: theories about what was actually happening, and there was just
- 30:03Speaker 1: enough mystery to keep that going. If you're not like
- 30:06Speaker 1: someone like me, yeah, until the end of the show,
- 30:08Speaker 1: when everybody just swore it off because it didn't like
- 30:10Speaker 1: the ending, unless you me, yeah, so then we have
- 30:13Speaker 1: Lost in Space Now Lost in Space started off as
- 30:18Speaker 1: a television sci fi uh drama dy I guess you
- 30:24Speaker 1: could say like it was more of a drama but
- 30:26Speaker 1: with lots of little comedic moments as well, in which
- 30:30Speaker 1: you have a family, the Robinson's, who are sent to
- 30:34Speaker 1: go as sort of a an early colonization group to
- 30:40Speaker 1: a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri. And they've got a pilot,
- 30:45Speaker 1: Major Don West, who is in charge of a ship,
- 30:48Speaker 1: the Jupiter Too. Uh. And they then are sabotaged by
- 30:54Speaker 1: a guy named Dr Zachary Smith who is trying to
- 31:00Speaker 1: sabotage the ship on behalf of some government that's never
- 31:05Speaker 1: actually revealed. Uh. And he's he sabotages a robot on
- 31:10Speaker 1: the show, it's referred to as the robot. He doesn't
- 31:14Speaker 1: get a name or it doesn't get a name. Um.
- 31:16Speaker 1: And then eventually Dr Smith, as the character is known,
- 31:19Speaker 1: He's caught aboard the ship after he sabotages it, so
- 31:22Speaker 1: he ends up having to try and revive the crew
- 31:26Speaker 1: out of cryostasis in order to rescue his own hide.
- 31:29Speaker 1: The group get Lost in Space, and Dr Smith throughout
- 31:33Speaker 1: the rest of the series is sort of a comedic villain,
- 31:36Speaker 1: like a cowardly, villainous character. He gets more comedic as
- 31:41Speaker 1: the show goes on. And that's the original incarnation of
- 31:45Speaker 1: the show. Of course, there was a movie adaptation that
- 31:47Speaker 1: changed things quite a bit, uh, and that was pretty dark.
- 31:51Speaker 1: And there was a two thousand eighteen reboot of the
- 31:53Speaker 1: series on Netflix which also changed things quite a bit,
- 31:56Speaker 1: including changing the the gender of Dr Smith, which was
- 32:02Speaker 1: you know, had Um Parker posey I think, yeah, playing
- 32:06Speaker 1: that role now in my mashup. At least, I went
- 32:09Speaker 1: with the original Lost in Space because I have a
- 32:15Speaker 1: very tenuous connection with it. Interesting. You'll have to get
- 32:19Speaker 1: into that when you get to your mashup. I also
- 32:21Speaker 1: went with the original Lost in Space because I'm not
- 32:24Speaker 1: caught up on the current one. Okay, well, who would
- 32:28Speaker 1: you like to go first? Knowing that both of these
- 32:30Speaker 1: are more on the dramatic side than the comedic side,
- 32:34Speaker 1: I'll go first, all right. This is called Lost in
- 32:38Speaker 1: the Hatch. It's been a week since the passengers of
- 32:41Speaker 1: Oceanic Flight eight fifteen woke up on the island, a
- 32:45Speaker 1: week plagued with strange occurrences like mysterious cases of food
- 32:49Speaker 1: rations marked Jupiter two Initiative Polar bears and weird electromagnetic fields,
- 32:53Speaker 1: all accompanied by a creepy, groaning, roaring, mechanical noise from
- 32:57Speaker 1: an unseen monster in the woods. And that's when he
- 33:00Speaker 1: shows up, Doctor Zachary Smith, claiming to be a passenger
- 33:03Speaker 1: on flight eight fifteen along with his wife and children.
- 33:06Speaker 1: No one recognized him, but since the plane had broken
- 33:08Speaker 1: in half during the crash, everyone in the makeshift camp
- 33:11Speaker 1: cautiously believed him. When asked where his family was, doctor
- 33:14Speaker 1: Smith said he had lost them and the crash and
- 33:16Speaker 1: was looking for them. He singled out John Locke, a
- 33:19Speaker 1: gentleman who had once been in a wheelchair but now
- 33:21Speaker 1: could walk, to help him, saying that he was a
- 33:24Speaker 1: man of science and he needed a man of faith
- 33:26Speaker 1: to help him see signs he might overlook that would
- 33:28Speaker 1: lead him in the right direction. While the rest of
- 33:30Speaker 1: the survivors continued to try to find a way to
- 33:33Speaker 1: be rescued off the island, doctor Zachary Smith, John Locke,
- 33:35Speaker 1: and a couple of others Boone and Hurley to be named,
- 33:38Speaker 1: went off in search of doctor Smith's family. The search
- 33:41Speaker 1: party was only a short way into their quest when
- 33:43Speaker 1: they heard the ominous, groaning, roaring mechanical sound. Ah the
- 33:46Speaker 1: smoke monster, run, yelled hurly. This way, shouted Dr Smith
- 33:50Speaker 1: as the trees in front of them began to shake.
- 33:52Speaker 1: When they stopped running from the monster, they realized they
- 33:54Speaker 1: were standing on top of a giant hatch. On the
- 33:57Speaker 1: hatch were the numbers zero, two, nine, ten, sixteen nineteen.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Dr Smith told, I recognize all those numbers. Yay. Dr
- 34:10Speaker 1: Smith told the group, my family must be hiding in there.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Let's break in, and that's what they tried to do.
- 34:16Speaker 1: In their attempt to break into the hatch. Lock injured
- 34:18Speaker 1: his leg, but they did make it in and that's
- 34:21Speaker 1: when they saw it. A man, a woman, and their
- 34:23Speaker 1: two children frozen in chambers, and one chamber opened with
- 34:26Speaker 1: the name Z Smith on the outside. But just as Lock,
- 34:29Speaker 1: Boone and Hurley were perplexing over this, they heard the
- 34:32Speaker 1: monster noise again, but this time it was much closer
- 34:35Speaker 1: and it was saying something day we Robinson, very thank you.
- 34:46Speaker 1: The monster was in the hatch. Dr Smith yelled for
- 34:49Speaker 1: them to quickly to get the family out of the
- 34:50Speaker 1: pods and the hatch before the monster got them. But
- 34:52Speaker 1: before they could do that, the monster appeared. Locke being
- 34:55Speaker 1: injured was unable to run away and prepared for the worst,
- 34:58Speaker 1: but the worst never came. In head the monster, which
- 35:01Speaker 1: was a robot, corner Dr Smith. Dr Smith yelled for help,
- 35:05Speaker 1: but the search party refused until they were told what
- 35:08Speaker 1: was really going on. So Dr Smith, with no other alternatives,
- 35:11Speaker 1: told them in sort of a villainy monology way, he
- 35:14Speaker 1: had launched into space with a family called the Robinsons
- 35:18Speaker 1: in an effort to get to an earthlike planet around
- 35:20Speaker 1: the Alpha Centauri star. However, due to complications that he
- 35:23Speaker 1: insisted were no fault of his own, they got knocked
- 35:27Speaker 1: off course and crash landed on this island, and upon landing, he,
- 35:30Speaker 1: the robot, and the supplies and the ship were strewn
- 35:32Speaker 1: across the island. The hatch was actually the spaceship, but
- 35:36Speaker 1: it was so damaged in the crash it couldn't take
- 35:38Speaker 1: off with the crew inside of it, which was also
- 35:41Speaker 1: a lie. Dr Smith just wanted to get rid of
- 35:42Speaker 1: the Robinsons. At first. Dr Smith didn't even know where
- 35:46Speaker 1: he was, and for the last seven years now he
- 35:48Speaker 1: was trying to get off the island and back on
- 35:50Speaker 1: his journey. The Monterey robot wouldn't let him remove the
- 35:52Speaker 1: crew which he was insisting had to be off for
- 35:55Speaker 1: the spaceship to take off, as it was protecting the
- 35:58Speaker 1: young boy will So Doctor Smiths goal was to get Lock,
- 36:01Speaker 1: Boone and Hurley to remove the family, destroy the robot,
- 36:04Speaker 1: and then Dr Smith would take off in the spaceship
- 36:07Speaker 1: back on his mission, leaving everyone behind. At first, Lock
- 36:11Speaker 1: and the rest of them thought Dr Smith was crazy
- 36:13Speaker 1: there was no mission to space that year, but then
- 36:16Speaker 1: they noticed the numbers on the hatch directly matched his
- 36:18Speaker 1: story and he must be from an alternate timeline. Once
- 36:21Speaker 1: they realized he was from an alternate timeline, they decided
- 36:24Speaker 1: to revive the Robinson's out the doctor and take the
- 36:27Speaker 1: spaceship back through the wormhole and off the island. The
- 36:30Speaker 1: three survivors went back and told the rest of the passengers.
- 36:32Speaker 1: They all went to the hatch, dug out the spaceship,
- 36:34Speaker 1: prepared it, and shot off into space. It was an
- 36:36Speaker 1: exceptionally rough ride and everyone passed out. The next thing
- 36:40Speaker 1: we know, we're viewing a closeup of an eye on
- 36:43Speaker 1: a beach, and as we zoom out, we find out
- 36:45Speaker 1: that all of the passengers of flight eight fifteen are back,
- 36:47Speaker 1: freshly crashed on the beach along with the Robinson's and
- 36:50Speaker 1: their robot, and there is a loud, scary, groaning, roaring,
- 36:53Speaker 1: mechanical noise from the jungle. M cliffhanger, Cliffinger, I've been
- 37:00Speaker 1: doing this lately. Mine also ends in a cliffhanger, because
- 37:03Speaker 1: I mean this is a series, right, like you're talking
- 37:04Speaker 1: about Lost, That's what that's kind of how it do.
- 37:07Speaker 1: So um mine is called Lost Lost in space space
- 37:13Speaker 1: h Young Will Robinson has a problem, or, as the
- 37:17Speaker 1: robot would say, danger, Will Robinson. The young lads strayed
- 37:22Speaker 1: a bit too far from the Jupiter eight fifteen. While
- 37:25Speaker 1: exploring the surroundings of the mysterious island that served as
- 37:29Speaker 1: the crash site for the latest of the spaceship's catastrophes,
- 37:32Speaker 1: Willard moved just a bit too far from the supervision
- 37:35Speaker 1: of his family when he sees something truly odd in
- 37:39Speaker 1: the Jungle Islands. Vegetation and it's substantial form, almost as
- 37:44Speaker 1: if made from smoke, seems to be moving through the
- 37:48Speaker 1: shadowy space between trees, and even the young will can
- 37:51Speaker 1: sense it has menace, But before he can escape, the
- 37:55Speaker 1: smoke is on him and he cries out, only to
- 37:57Speaker 1: have his scream suddenly cut short. Meanwhile, back at the
- 38:02Speaker 1: landing site, Major Don West and the robot here Young
- 38:07Speaker 1: Robinson's cry. Thinking quickly, West asks the robot if it
- 38:11Speaker 1: could determine where Robinson was. The robot gives a general
- 38:14Speaker 1: direction and estimated distance, indicating Robinson's last known position. West
- 38:20Speaker 1: tells Will's parents, Professor John Robinson and Dr Maureen Robinson,
- 38:25Speaker 1: and West elects to bring Judy, the eldest Robinson child,
- 38:29Speaker 1: and the robot and Doctor Zachary Smith with him. Dr
- 38:32Speaker 1: Smith doesn't seem thrilled by the prospect. John, Maureen and
- 38:38Speaker 1: their daughter Penny stay behind, worried but working harder on
- 38:42Speaker 1: making repairs to the Jupiter eight fift. West and crew,
- 38:46Speaker 1: following in Will's footsteps, reached the point where Will last was.
- 38:50Speaker 1: From there they see all signs of Will's presence come
- 38:53Speaker 1: to an end, as if he had been plucked off
- 38:55Speaker 1: the ground somehow. West decides the group should split up
- 39:00Speaker 1: and search. He and Judy Will go in one direction,
- 39:03Speaker 1: and Smith and the robot in another. Meanwhile, Will Robinson
- 39:08Speaker 1: wakes up in a strange place. It seems like he's
- 39:10Speaker 1: in some sort of military bunker. The smoke Monster is
- 39:14Speaker 1: nowhere to be found, but at the same time, there's
- 39:17Speaker 1: no way for Will to get out. The hatch to
- 39:20Speaker 1: the bunker seems to be locked from the outside, but
- 39:22Speaker 1: inside the bunker is a very old computer terminal. Will,
- 39:26Speaker 1: determined to put his knowledge of computer science to the task,
- 39:29Speaker 1: attempts to make it work. We come back to Judy
- 39:33Speaker 1: and Major West, who find an odd metallic panel in
- 39:36Speaker 1: the jungle. On it is a symbol that looks familiar.
- 39:40Speaker 1: It's an octagonal shape who lines inside it and the
- 39:43Speaker 1: word dharma in the middle. I've seen this before, says Judy.
- 39:47Speaker 1: Major West agrees that it is familiar, but neither can
- 39:51Speaker 1: quite place where they had seen it. Meanwhile, the robot
- 39:54Speaker 1: and Dr Smith are in another part of the jungle,
- 39:57Speaker 1: where Smith is spending his time calling the robot trittorious
- 40:01Speaker 1: transistorized trash heat. But then suddenly the robot spots a
- 40:06Speaker 1: sign of the hatch, and Dr Smith, in a moment
- 40:09Speaker 1: of desperation, fakes a stumble and air quotes falls over,
- 40:14Speaker 1: crying out who the pain the pain of a tool?
- 40:18Speaker 1: The robot tells Dr Smith to stay there and it
- 40:20Speaker 1: will fetch help from back at the Jupiter. So the
- 40:23Speaker 1: robot leaves and we see a sly smile on Dr
- 40:26Speaker 1: Smith's face. Cut to Major West and Judy as they
- 40:30Speaker 1: work their way back through the jungle, they spot something impossible.
- 40:34Speaker 1: There in the tropical jungle is what looks like a
- 40:36Speaker 1: polar bear moving off in the underbrush. Before the two
- 40:39Speaker 1: can get a good look, however, it's gone. Having found
- 40:43Speaker 1: no signs of will, and convinced that moving further without
- 40:46Speaker 1: help would be a mistake, they decided to retrace their
- 40:48Speaker 1: steps to where their group first split up. Back at
- 40:52Speaker 1: the Jupiter eight fifteen, John and Maureen are deep in
- 40:55Speaker 1: conversation when the robot returns, alerting them to Smith's air
- 40:59Speaker 1: quotes in injury. Marine decides she will go to tend
- 41:03Speaker 1: to the doctor, but then realizes that Penny is missing.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Looking for her, they find her cuddling with a little
- 41:09Speaker 1: polar bear cub, whom she has named Bloop two. John
- 41:14Speaker 1: and Marine are left wondering how in the heck a
- 41:16Speaker 1: polar bear ended up on a tropical island. Maureen then
- 41:20Speaker 1: heads off to tend to Dr Smith. Major West and
- 41:23Speaker 1: Judy returned to their starting point and see that Smith
- 41:25Speaker 1: and the robot haven't returned yet, so they decided to
- 41:28Speaker 1: follow their tracks to catch up with them, and as
- 41:30Speaker 1: they do, they see Dr Smith studying the hatch carefully.
- 41:35Speaker 1: Judy gasps quietly and says to West, I know where
- 41:38Speaker 1: I've seen that symbol, the one from the metal panel.
- 41:41Speaker 1: It's on one Dr Smith's old lab coats. And then
- 41:45Speaker 1: they realize Dr Smith has secretly worked for the Dharma Initiative.
- 41:50Speaker 1: What's he doing, asked Judy. It looks to me like
- 41:53Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out how to cover up that hatch,
- 41:55Speaker 1: says Don. The two decide that's enough and they walk
- 41:59Speaker 1: up to the door, who immediately says he was, in
- 42:01Speaker 1: fact trying to figure out how to open the hatch
- 42:05Speaker 1: in case the young Will Robinson were inside. Don doesn't
- 42:09Speaker 1: seem to buy it, showing that it is just a
- 42:12Speaker 1: simple crank to open the hatch. But before he even
- 42:15Speaker 1: lays hands on it, the wheel on the hatch turns
- 42:17Speaker 1: by itself and pops open. All three step back involuntarily,
- 42:21Speaker 1: and out from the hatch comes Young Will Robinson. I
- 42:25Speaker 1: found the controls in an old computer. It's really old,
- 42:29Speaker 1: maybe as old as you. Dr Smith, Smith, shocked and appalled,
- 42:34Speaker 1: rolls his eyes, and then Maureen and the robot show up.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Marina is surprised to see that Smith is actually up
- 42:40Speaker 1: and about, and the doctor then tries to explain that
- 42:42Speaker 1: it turned out just to be a mild spring say
- 42:46Speaker 1: Dr Smith says, Major West, what is dharma? Smith, shocked,
- 42:52Speaker 1: seems at a loss for words, and while searching for
- 42:54Speaker 1: something to say, a new voice speaks out, I believe
- 42:59Speaker 1: I can nce or that. The group turns to see
- 43:02Speaker 1: black smoke coalescing into a human form, a man wearing
- 43:07Speaker 1: all black, and then we see the show's credits. We'll
- 43:10Speaker 1: have to wait for the next episode to find out
- 43:11Speaker 1: what happens. I would watch her version of this show. Well,
- 43:17Speaker 1: uh so so my my connection to Lost in Space.
- 43:21Speaker 1: The actor who played Will Robinson is a guy named
- 43:23Speaker 1: Bill Mouey, and uh Bill Mouey also was a founding
- 43:29Speaker 1: member of the novelty music band Barnes and Barnes, most
- 43:33Speaker 1: famous for the song fish Heads Eat Them Up Yum. Anyway,
- 43:38Speaker 1: Bill Mooey was a guest at a local science fiction convention.
- 43:43Speaker 1: My dad was also a guest at that same convention,
- 43:45Speaker 1: and my mom loved to make costumes for me and
- 43:49Speaker 1: my sister. At that particular convention, I was wearing a
- 43:52Speaker 1: Danger Mouse costume. For those who don't know, Danger Mouse
- 43:55Speaker 1: was a British cartoon where you had a mouse kind
- 44:00Speaker 1: of like in the style of James Bonds, very very silly,
- 44:03Speaker 1: very heavy on the puns and sight gags, and I
- 44:06Speaker 1: loved it. So I had this Danger Mouse costume and
- 44:09Speaker 1: it looked really good, like my mom made a mascot
- 44:12Speaker 1: level costume. Turns out Bill Mooney huge Danger Mouse fan,
- 44:18Speaker 1: and so he saw me in costume, and there was
- 44:20Speaker 1: a camera crew that was shooting little bits of the
- 44:24Speaker 1: convention and airing it on the local UH public broadcast
- 44:28Speaker 1: station during a Doctor Who marathon and and essentially advertising
- 44:34Speaker 1: the fact that there was this convention, to to have
- 44:36Speaker 1: people come out and be part of it and um.
- 44:39Speaker 1: And so when Bill Mooey saw me, he said, I'll
- 44:41Speaker 1: be glad to do an on camera thing, but I
- 44:43Speaker 1: have to have Danger Mouse with me. And so I
- 44:46Speaker 1: ended up getting to hang out with Bill Mooey for
- 44:48Speaker 1: like a couple of hours as he was shooting stuff
- 44:51Speaker 1: and having me on camera. I didn't speak or anything.
- 44:53Speaker 1: You couldn't tell it was me because it was in costume.
- 44:56Speaker 1: But it was fun. That is absolutely adorable. Yea also
- 45:01Speaker 1: pretty pretty sweet. You made mention to Bloop, and then
- 45:04Speaker 1: I had to go, what did blue look like? And
- 45:06Speaker 1: it was very upsetting to look at that. Well, this
- 45:10Speaker 1: was blue too, in a very cute polar bear cup. Yes,
- 45:13Speaker 1: Bloop original was an arrange an orangutang. I believe it
- 45:16Speaker 1: was an orangutan, yeah, or a chimpanzee. No, No, you're right,
- 45:19Speaker 1: it was a chimpanzee. It was a chimpanzee with a
- 45:22Speaker 1: very large prosthetic head um on top of its head, yeah,
- 45:27Speaker 1: which just looked sad. Yeah, which I think officially Penny
- 45:32Speaker 1: named that Debbie, if I'm not mistaken, But but it
- 45:36Speaker 1: was known as Bloop because of the noise it would make. Um. Yeah.
- 45:40Speaker 1: And so that's that's our episode, and we're going to
- 45:42Speaker 1: do a few more of these episodes. Frequently we record
- 45:45Speaker 1: these because occasionally one of us needs to go out
- 45:49Speaker 1: of town or something like that, and so instead of
- 45:51Speaker 1: trying to cover news that might be very stale by
- 45:54Speaker 1: the time you hear it, we thought we would do
- 45:56Speaker 1: more Evergreen episodes for those rare occas asians where we
- 46:01Speaker 1: can't just cover or breaking news. Otherwise I'd be talking
- 46:04Speaker 1: about Benedict Cumberbatch saying he's not going to play thron
- 46:07Speaker 1: and uh, you know stuff like that. Yeah. No, he
- 46:10Speaker 1: says he doesn't want to be in a makeup chair
- 46:11Speaker 1: for hours on end because he misses his kids, which
- 46:14Speaker 1: I think is totally valid. Um. But yeah, so we would.
- 46:18Speaker 1: We'll be doing these occasionally. So if you ever hear
- 46:20Speaker 1: one that's like this, that's what that's about. And if
- 46:22Speaker 1: you have a topic you want us to talk about
- 46:24Speaker 1: at length in an episode like this, let us know. Yes,
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- 46:52Speaker 1: like science fiction property that gets canceled because just not
- 46:56Speaker 1: enough people knew about it. Yes, that would he the sadist. Uh.
- 47:01Speaker 1: But to leave on a happy note, I am Ariel
- 47:04Speaker 1: Caston and I am Jonathan Happy Strickland. M m m
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