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Josh Hines-Allen talks finding his Mamba Mentality, learning from the OGs, attending Cam’s Sack Summit (ENCORE) · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: Here we are on off the edge with me, your host,
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  Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's and I'm just overly blessed, overly happy to
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  Speaker 1: be here in Las Vegas at the annual Sack Summit,
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  Speaker 1: which has become a thing now you know me, Von Miller,
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  Speaker 1: Max Crosby, first collaboration. We're gonna take off from here.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here with my guy, Josh Allen. When
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  Speaker 1: I say paid is an understatement. We're not gonna put
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  Speaker 1: numbers out there, but he just got paid this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: We are so excited for him to join the show.
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  Speaker 1: When I say pro bowler, we talk about Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: When I say, you know a guy who had seventeen
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  Speaker 1: half sacks this past season, a threshold that is hard
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  Speaker 1: to get to. You know, there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: seasons you can put together half ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Once you get beyond that fifteen, you get in a real,
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  Speaker 1: real rare air and you hit seventeen half marks and
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  Speaker 1: seventeen half sacks for the mark this is past season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, congratulations on your success, Congratulations on
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  Speaker 1: getting paid, Congratulations on everything you've done at this point.
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  Speaker 1: And I know there's so much more, but I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you tapping in on the show to be here with you,
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  Speaker 1: big bro. Yeah, indeed, and you've been to Sax some before, right,
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  Speaker 1: I have eight years ago. I would say it was
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  Speaker 1: one of them years. I was like all these all
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  Speaker 1: these sex im start to blend together, like definitely been here. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I was it three years ago. And now you're coming
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  Speaker 1: back you know where where it's bigger and better than ever. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: sitting here at a hotel where we're about to get
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  Speaker 1: active tomorrow, get some real work in. What are you
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to? Uh? Communication?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, blending with the guys, learning, growing, and also spreading
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  Speaker 2: my knowledge and wealth things that I you know, learned
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  Speaker 2: throughout these years that I could pass on to other guys.
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  Speaker 1: Spreading wealth. Can I get a dollar wealth the wealth
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  Speaker 1: of knowledge? I can help some money, you know, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt speaking of you know, just the
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  Speaker 1: the success that you had, have you have you had
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: a big splurg Yet I know you got a fami.
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  Speaker 1: I know you got kids beyond moms, and I know
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  Speaker 1: you took care of the fam. I know you got
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  Speaker 1: a wife. He probably got a nice purse out of it.
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  Speaker 1: What did you get you? I got a new car.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll say double.
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  Speaker 3: R Oh I had to get it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh big, big, big dog.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm saving that. What a driver? Oh does it
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  Speaker 1: come with the driver? What does a double ar come
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  Speaker 1: with the driver? You gotta sell you separately.
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  Speaker 2: It's easy. You gotta get it separately. It's easy to
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  Speaker 2: get one, especially in jackson A lot of people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville really small. Oh you boy, I'm not gonna lie
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  Speaker 2: to you.
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  Speaker 1: When I first got to Jacksonville, my my big homie
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  Speaker 1: Tyson Lulu was drafted. Was that twenty ten, first time
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  Speaker 1: I ever got through Jacksonville. I was like, there's nothing here.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, that's why it's easy to make people.
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  Speaker 1: No people. I mean, fourteen years later, it actually looks
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  Speaker 1: like it's like a solid city.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's growing. It's definitely grown.
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  Speaker 2: With the new stadium being built too, then that's gonna
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  Speaker 2: bring a lot more revenue, a lot more more money
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  Speaker 2: in the city.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And then bringing the four seasons into our owner, bringing
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  Speaker 2: the four seasons in and.
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  Speaker 3: You got a four season in Jacksonville, were making one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're doing something man, And you know, hopefully
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  Speaker 2: that just keeps growing.
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  Speaker 1: And growing for us right right, You got my you
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  Speaker 1: got my former d line coach Ryan Nilson as your decordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Now you've had you know a little off season with them.
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  Speaker 1: How do you like him so far?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so far, so good, you know for me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he called the first time. The first thing
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  Speaker 2: he talked about when I talked on the phone was
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  Speaker 2: he going forward. That's all I need to hear. Now,
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  Speaker 2: put the ball in my court, let me be me
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  Speaker 2: and we can do that. And I think it's the
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  Speaker 2: conversations that we had. He kind of lets you, you know,
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  Speaker 2: take a choke because I think in his defense, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the ends right, need to be need to be elite,
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  Speaker 2: you know, needs to be those guys. And where I'm at,
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  Speaker 2: where my trajectory is going in my career, I can
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  Speaker 2: only see myself going up. So if you allow me
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  Speaker 2: to go right, trust me, then I'm gonna go. And
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  Speaker 2: but now this year, man, I did that last year
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  Speaker 2: by myself. Now it's trying to spread that well to
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  Speaker 2: the others. You know, Uh, got Trey who's coming up,
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  Speaker 2: Got Eric that's new, and we got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: younger guys that I can kind of like, let's let's
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  Speaker 2: do this a big movie like this.
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  Speaker 1: You have the monster in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm already No, man, I'm happy. I'm happy kid
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  Speaker 2: in the candy stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, it seems like you guys got a strong collective.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years ago they paid the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver Kirk. You know, they kept They're starting to
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  Speaker 1: keep their own you. You know, Trevor Lawrence. How does
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  Speaker 1: howes it make you feel? The organization, you know, wants
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  Speaker 1: to love the players, wants to you know, pay their
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  Speaker 1: loyalty towards players like you and Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it means a lot. Uh, it means we're
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  Speaker 2: going in the right direction. You know, things that haven't
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  Speaker 2: been done in a very long time. You know, for
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  Speaker 2: me to be the first you know, one hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollar player and or like in the whole organization. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy, but it's a it's a humble experience,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I'm thankful for that.
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  Speaker 3: But it's we're in the right direction.
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  Speaker 2: We're keeping our top players, our best players, and our
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  Speaker 2: core players as well, so we can continue to keep
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  Speaker 2: building on that, keep bringing the younger guys up. That's
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  Speaker 2: why we put these guys in these roles to I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you play for the Saints, you had none but young
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  Speaker 2: guys and build them up and now you see them
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  Speaker 2: go here, go there. But they helped the organization build
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  Speaker 2: as well. That's all I want to do. Put my
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  Speaker 2: name on the map and never be forgotten in Jacksonville history, right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But I mean, just keep your core guys in there.
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  Speaker 1: Keep your locker room integrity good too, like the vibes,
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  Speaker 1: the ability for you know, in the season you want
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  Speaker 1: to have adversity. You're going to have those wins by
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  Speaker 1: twenty points. Some losses by threes that hurt way more
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  Speaker 1: than a blowout loss. But that core locker room keeps
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  Speaker 1: it going. Like, tell me about that, Tell me about
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  Speaker 1: your locker room. How does it feel? Because you know,
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  Speaker 1: every locker room is different, so I'm always intrigued to know,
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  Speaker 1: like what is your locker room feel like?
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  Speaker 2: Is there is you know, over you go, I don't
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  Speaker 2: see any dancing or like, you know, now, we've got
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  Speaker 2: a cool locked room. We got a lot of young guys.
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  Speaker 2: This is one or two things that we I think
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  Speaker 2: we need to implement this year moving forward to build
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  Speaker 2: that team chemistry. I think right now, we too were
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  Speaker 2: too blocked off, you know where we got one one
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  Speaker 2: one group of like D line in one area, right
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  Speaker 2: old line in another area.
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  Speaker 3: I think we need to mix that up.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and just just know you know your teammates and
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  Speaker 2: I think that kind of being I think that would
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  Speaker 2: bring a lot more chemistry with each other offers and defensively.
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, we got a young locker room.
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  Speaker 2: We'd like to have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Who gets control of the ox?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I keep boom box?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know, so I usually but I like the
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  Speaker 2: old schools and so if I'm on it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm usually playing cards with the guys and I'm playing
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  Speaker 2: you know, my jams and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: What's old school for you, sir? You were born in
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  Speaker 1: the late nineties.
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  Speaker 2: No old so I like, you know, I like like
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  Speaker 2: a little Luther, you know, I like I like a
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  Speaker 2: little like Big Luther music, soul child.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I like the vibe.
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  Speaker 2: Bro. I like to keep it because we all we
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  Speaker 2: go out on the field, we listen in that rap.
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  Speaker 2: We go in the weight room, were listening in the rap.
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  Speaker 2: You know, all this stops rolling around. Kind of need
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  Speaker 2: it in the locker room. Just keep a nice chill vibe.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody talking vibbing out. Like I said, we're playing cards.
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  Speaker 2: We got a basketball hoop. You know, we got a
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  Speaker 2: nice little you know, game room. Guys go chilling.
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  Speaker 1: I got a game room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we do, like Jackson, what you mean like like
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  Speaker 2: I said, we got it's like a little lounge, a
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  Speaker 2: little lounge. We got piers fous golf simulator, ping pong table.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, man, we got simulator. We're doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, uh, we know obviously you're you're you're a
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  Speaker 1: leader on the team. You lead by example. What's it
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  Speaker 1: like to have, you know, Trevor Lawrence, former number one
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  Speaker 1: overall pick from Clemson? Uh? What is he like as
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback? I mean when I when I came to
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: the league, I had Drew Brees and like so they
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  Speaker 1: epitome of a leader. I know exactly what that looked like.
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  Speaker 1: You know, for you you come in and then you
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: get you get Trevor Lawrence, and he clearly is a
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  Speaker 1: clear cut got to be a leader. The way he plays,
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  Speaker 1: the way he you know, implements his style to the game.
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  Speaker 1: What is he like as a leader?
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  Speaker 2: One thing that I can say about Trevor Man is
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  Speaker 2: the consistency that he has with the routine. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I think the more older I get is you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have to have a routine, but you can't be
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  Speaker 2: a robot to that routine. But you have to have
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  Speaker 2: a routine. And I remember, you know, his second year
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  Speaker 2: and he just wasn't playing as good every morning because
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: we're like early birds, so I come in there heat
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  Speaker 2: right there. So it's like seeing that every single day
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: from now, from then to now, it's consistent. You know,
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  Speaker 2: He's always had the same demeanor of like we're gonna
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: get it. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna command this,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna take control, you know, but we just have
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: to keep seasoning the moments. And but so for me,
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: just to see him stay disciplined, to see him stay
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  Speaker 2: locked in Lilliam State, trusted in his after what works
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  Speaker 2: for him, you know, I like to see that. And
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  Speaker 2: he's been doing that ever since. And I know it's
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: gonna pay off.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have to you know, breakout year
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  Speaker 2: this year, and I think he's gonna lead us the
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: right away and lead us to you know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of victories.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I mean yeah, that the AFC out there
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  Speaker 1: scrapping y'all. Y'all, y'all heavy sets. Yeah we did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's just the d line though, you
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  Speaker 2: know how the dy you know, the Battle of Trench
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  Speaker 2: is really gonna play a part.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the investments y'all made. The last time
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  Speaker 1: y'all had success into into the playoffs was you know,
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  Speaker 1: back when it was Saxonville. So like what y'all, what
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  Speaker 1: y'all created with the addition of Eric Armstead, y'all have
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  Speaker 1: potential get.
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  Speaker 3: Back, get back to it, you know.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: Like it's like I said in the intro, you had
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  Speaker 1: seventeen seventeen and a half sax this past season. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: how do you talk this last season in terms of production?
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think last year, man, last
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: year was a difficult. It wasn't It was difficult for me,
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: you know, because I feel like I couldn't rely on
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  Speaker 2: anybody else mentally. So it's like two people, three people communication,
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  Speaker 2: no communication. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna meet the
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: band in front of me. I studied the dude since
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  Speaker 2: since since July, since June, you know, I know my
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  Speaker 2: matchup and I'm gonna work this dude in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, that gave me a lot
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  Speaker 2: of success individually, but I think it kind of I
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: could where I could have spreaded that wealth all over
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  Speaker 2: the line and build this person and build that person up.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just like I did it by myself.
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  Speaker 2: Now let me see if I can do this, but
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: added add the value to everybody else, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: bring them to my level. I don't won't go to
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  Speaker 2: nobody else's level. I don't want to bring everybody up
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  Speaker 2: to my level. And obviously adding Eric, a guy that's
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: been played at the high level for so long, played
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: with guys that played at the high level, play with
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  Speaker 2: Nick defensive play of the Year, so he knows what
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: that work ethic is and he knows what that competitive is.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, if I can bring that to my
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  Speaker 2: other guys and take more control right there, this y'all
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  Speaker 2: far we can go as a whole D line now.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I say, like AFC South young quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we got guys really throwing that.
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  Speaker 1: Ball there, and who's gonna win up front? Right?
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  Speaker 2: And if you look at every super Bowl. You know
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  Speaker 2: who who's taking over.
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  Speaker 1: The line heat and you see which one's gonna win.
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  Speaker 2: And I told him that, right, I won't be the
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  Speaker 2: best one. We're gonna be the best D line, and
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  Speaker 2: we gonna be the best D line. That won't be
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  Speaker 2: the best one. So you know that's my that's my
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  Speaker 2: challenge for them, and you know they accept, They know that.
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  Speaker 1: They know.
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  Speaker 2: They accept that for me, and I accept that for
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: them as well. Like Trade, Me and Trey talk all
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  Speaker 2: the time. That's like my little brother, and like he
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  Speaker 2: know and I know he knows I'm gonna be the
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  Speaker 2: top dog. Te you got to come give me well,
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  Speaker 2: he said, Josh, I'm gonna be top doll.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna work. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: It's that competitive edge, man. We need to compete.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be the best. You want to be
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  Speaker 3: the best.
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  Speaker 2: We want to be the best together, and we keep
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: we got to keep proving it right. Everybody can do
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: it one time, everybody, Look you do it two times,
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  Speaker 2: three times.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I gotta get the word. The world tries
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: to to crown people king over one year. If you've
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: been in the Lee long enough, I'm like yeah, but
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: show me three four years. You can do it three
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: four years. I believe in the height. If you do
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: it for one year, anybody can catch a lick. Anybody,
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: anybody can roll the dice and be amazing. Off one
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  Speaker 1: roll show you can continue, you know, and you like
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: that building like and the greatest thing about you just
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  Speaker 1: said is you know like i'ma topped up but I
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: want you to come get me. It's like I used
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  Speaker 1: to tell the d Lion. I'm telling d Lion all
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  Speaker 1: the time. I like, Yo, if y'all can shine as
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: bright as y'all can, Like if y'all bring in everything
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: y'all do, y'all be amazing as you can, think about
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: how much more amazing I'm gonna look too, because like
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: if you bro, if you're if you're a sword and
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: you're your sword and your sword everybody is what is
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: these gleaming swords call me excaliburate, like I'm gonna be
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: like I'm a king slayer. You know what I'm saying.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: And you have to have that mentality in this game
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: so when you come to it, like I want to
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: make Brian Bezi the best he can be. I want
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: to be uh I want. I want to make car
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: grants and the best that he can be, because by
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: doing that that elevates their play, which is gonna push
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: myself to work even harder. Sir, what did you what
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  Speaker 1: did you do this differently? You know from years previous
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: to this break, this huge monsters here, you just had
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: staying locked in. You know, I did a lot more
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: reading this past year by my audio books. Uh, audio
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  Speaker 1: books like actually books protecting football or just like mental
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  Speaker 1: mental mindset brooks, you know, being able to stay locked in, uh,
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  Speaker 1: being able to control, you know, control what you could control.
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  Speaker 1: So for me game days, man, I didn't listen to
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: any music.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I was really big on you know, if
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  Speaker 2: anything was to happen, I didn't want music to be
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: the reason why I didn't perform, you know, or it
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: didn't I didn't play my song.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do this, just like little things. So it
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: was really big.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: On how mentally can I be in the game, Like
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I'm mentally confident. I know, I studied this dude for
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: so long. I studied his offense for so long.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: So if there was no music, how did you keep
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: your cane? A lot there?
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just breathing watching a film a long time. You know,
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: I get in the dark room. So my first thing,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: my people find me a dark room.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: I get a dark room. I go in there.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: I just chill out, control my thoughts, like in the stadium,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: in the stadium, in the locker room.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: And so once you once you get to the stadium.
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  Speaker 2: I find me. You know, my people give me a
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: dark room. I go in there, and you know, I
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: take a little nap. I read my book. First of all.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: I read my book so I can like get off
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: of football, get off of you know, any feeling that
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: I'm about to feel and just have like a you know,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: I got better off of reading, you know, and I'm
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: reading things that's that can apply to me in this game.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: So I'm reading these books. I'm taking naps. I listen
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: to a little jazz here. And I got that from Lebron.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Uh I got that from Brin. I definitely take that
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: from Bro.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: And you stay on the first page, like no, I read, Okay,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I read.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I'd be reading this uh Relentlessness by Tim Grover, and
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: you know he talks about three years of people you
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: got a cooler, cleaner, and you got a cooler, you
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: got a cleaner, and you got a closer.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I'm a cleaner, you.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Know, cleaner, cleaner.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: What's the cleaner the.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Guy that do it right?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: You know, a guy that do it right half the time.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: And you got the cooler, that guy that's just out there.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to you know they talking
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: about clutch people. You know, clutch people come come in
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: clutch moments. I wouldn't be a player that come in
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: at all moments. And so if I can continue to
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: have that mindset, continue to challenge myself, continue to push
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: myself in practice, first one on the field, last one
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: to leave. Really doing things that's applying myself to get
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: better during practice. You know, I do things pre practice
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: to get better during practice, and then I do the
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: things that after practice that I didn't do right in practice.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: So every day I just feel like I'm getting better.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm eating right. You know, my family, my
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: family is situated. I make sure my wife is you know,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: stable enough that if I'm not in the house with
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: covering my body, are sleeping in the type of barrick
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: that everything's okay. And make sure I spend time with
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: my kids and obviously tell them, let them know why
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I'm doing what I'm doing. And also I take them
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: with me sometimes, so you know, making sure everything in
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: my life is is what it's supposed to be so
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I can play. That's why kids like we had to
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: chill out on the kids.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: You know, three three three is a plenty at it
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: gets to be a lot, especially in season.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: You know, wife, you need a date night, we do it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: They night, Tuesday night.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: We date nights tuesday'day night.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: You guys do like a defensive line dinner defense.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: So again, so you know, un fortunately, we've been building
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: our house for three years and it just got finished
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: right before I signed my contract. And so prior to that,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I was like I don't know what we're gonna do.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, we're gonna sell it, We're gonna move here.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: We gotta do this.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: And then we get our house done, and then a
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: couple days ago we signed our contract. So it's like,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: this is our future. We built it for our family
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and so like, and now we got it built to
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: where we can entertain, We have spaces for the kids,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and then we have people. Now we can have people over,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: So I kind of want to That's why he said
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: take more control and take more lead, come over.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I got a full chef now that can that can
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: help cater out not only myself but for everybody else
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: as well. And so you know we did differs. Yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: but I want to do more of like a chill
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: like come to the crib. Maybe we will watch the game,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: maybe watch some tape. You know, I got a good
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: setup to where I can entertain a lot more people,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: and I want to take more control in that. And
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: you know it's my team. They pay me to be
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: that guy. Yeah, you know, so it's trying to take.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, act accordingly. Look on on our on our defense,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: we do defense every defense, dinners every other Thursday, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: like it just goes from like the pecking order, og
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: pay you know the so now it's me the oldest
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: guy in the room. Pay the next time that it
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: just goes you know, from whoever on and then every
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: other week the d line will go eat you know.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: So then so it's always just like camaraderie. It's always
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: like trying to figure out how I can what motivates
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: my teammates off the field, on the field, whatever it is,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: so I can be just have that relatable moment like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: in game if things get huge, it's like all right, bro,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Like I just need you to lock in with me.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Like we've gone through enough. I know enough about you,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like I know how to lock you in, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like whatever it is. And I feel like those off
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the field moments creates that trust and that camaraderie that
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you sort of need to achieve success in the season. Yes, sir,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: we'll be right back. So you being at the sex summit, right,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: how does this How does this fit into your goals
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of improving? Man?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Just I like to learn, Yeah, I like to see
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: see my already came.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I already got questions that I want to ask certain people,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and you're one of the people I wanted to definitely
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: chop it up with on just you know how you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I know how I break that field, right, But like,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: what other tendencies do you look at when you you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: when you're looking at a tackle, you're looking at an
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: offensive scheme?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Like what is what is telltale signs that you can
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: see on? Know?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You know, Like that's really what I want to get to.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not big social outside you know this
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that you know, if I catch you, I catch you
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: just like when we play, y'all right, you know, it
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was my moment.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: We had a little time.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go say, what's something told you know what
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, show my respect Clays. And I was
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: with Clays right and one thing he told me, Man,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: if you really love this game, you gotta respect it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You gotta respect the people who paid.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: It for you.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: So for me, it was like, I've always you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and I love the game. I always loved the game.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: So for him to say that to me, so it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: like when I do play against another guy, I have
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to you know, I respect you know, I respect the game.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I respect what you've done. Not a lot of people
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: have done what you've done. So it was a moment
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: for me to show, you know, show show, show, show.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: My value to you is that I'm coming to get you, bro,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: But I respect and I respect what you do and
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I love it because I want to be there one
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: day and it's a club for a reason.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Come join me. I got it. I'm gonna puh, I'm
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: gonna push this bard over come on now, you know
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: saying like it, I know we all got goals.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Because because Ryan even showed me a lot of your
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: tape man, and so I've definitely been tapped in a
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: lot more so you know, I like what you do. Yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that, but I can't do what you do.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of news that you do
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that I'm like, ah, but I know he got a lot.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Of masks to Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Newson came in probably
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: like year six or seven. For me, it was like hey, man,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: mask kicks, and I was like, well say less got
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: begin But I mean it's crazy that you now you
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: got Ryan Nielsen. He's different as a decoordinator than it
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: was this D line coach. You get like the relaxed
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Ryan Nilsen. Oh, Ryan Neilson D line coach hands on
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. I believe he like like he's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: feeling the need to fire you up at every moment.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: You're like, just take a breath, let me talk to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you over here. Let me let me talk to you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: over here. So we don't have to we don't have
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to have this, you know, because like you know, when
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a new coach comes in, you know it's like he's
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: he paid away. It's like, hey, my way to the highway,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, come to this highway real quick. We're
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: gonna make it our way.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, you know.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And that's that's real that you say that, because you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I know what I do best, you know, and what
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I do best kind of doesn't it's not it's not
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: like what he's like teaches to do. So to have
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: that conversation, to sitting down with him, to have that
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: conversation coach, this is what I do.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Best, right, and but I do like what he did
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: help me out. He said, he said three different things.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Rush angles, you know, speed rush, got to change the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: power angle rush, and he made me simplified. He made
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: me like made it so simple, give my power and
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: he can stop his feet.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: What you got? Office of the linemen are dumb so
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: liked it was like off the linement like they're literally cattle.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah what you do last?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Like which way did you go? George Liman in general,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and like there's smarter ones. I'm sure that can count
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the three, but like, you know, real, it's like it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like if you kill him with the speed, move one
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: one one, put one down, like you can literally just
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: be like all right, now here's my counter and right
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: like all they remember is the last.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Now that's it, and it's yeah, he told me. He
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: told me those things, and I was like, I want
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to go train on my own. I'm like, he just
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: made it a lot easier for me. So when I
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: want to study, it's like, you know, when I watch
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: your tape, what angle is he rushing at? Especially if
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: we're playing against a guy that we're about to see
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: this year, I'm like, he works with the speed and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: what did his feet do?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: His feet kept his feet stopped right, So this.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Is my counter So it's like, you know, putting moves
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: that a lot of people do, but what move can
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I do? You know, I'm a cross chop absolutely, side
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: sision is not my thing, right, but cross chop?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: How can I.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Threaten you to get the same reaction that you just
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: got to put him in this position?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So there's just things.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: That's the thing I stole myself swipe from, like Alex
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: okafort I becoming like whatever it is as I'm watching film,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like you know, my my arm over I've been doing forever,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: but I took I took that. I took that power
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: move from from Klay's campbell. I'm like, oh that was
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: like after I was like to catch my home over
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: work and try and work and work back inside with this.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm never going to be a hump guy. But I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: can throw that. I can. I can try to throw it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Like I still I still like different angles from all
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: different rushers. I look at Daniel Hunter and I'm like, oh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that long arm killing crazy and that like he has
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that that's like his chop is just like Berkeley down.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling moves at every like as much film as
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I watched. I stopped watching film on officeive Lineman and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: started watching film on concepts, schemes and other defensive ends
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: because I love I love the way you know we
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: rush or how you rush or how Trayvond rushes.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: When did you get when'd you When did you get
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: out of that? When did you get out of that realm?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Probably like year three, I was like so focused on, like, oh,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: what's he doing? What's he doing? I could care less
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: what he's doing because it's like he has to work in,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: work within the scheme. He has to work in like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: if they're a pulling team or motion team, whatever it is,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he has to work in his confinements. And then again
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: offensive Lineman, like if they were if they were actually athletes,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: they would have played on the defensive side. And that's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like you'd be like, oh, man, he used to be
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: you know, he was a basketball player and now he's fat,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: so he's an officsive lineman. Or like, oh he was
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a detackle, he was at tackle, but then he got
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: fat and now he's a guard. You know, like if
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you were twitchy, you would be on this side. If
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you you know, if you were as fast as they say,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you be on on this side. So I look at
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: them as just you know, they're like, oh, he has
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: great obstacles, obstacles like his one job is to hold
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: dear life for three seconds.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Do you know it's crazy that you said that, because
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I look at these dudes, that's how can I get
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: him to this armslat So when I was here, when
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I was here for the last summit and they had
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: me up there speaking, but I was so shock. I'm like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I'm here bringing out my tape. I'm like uh. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I was talking to uh uh justin Houston, and he
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: was like, bro, you gotta work on you gotta work
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: on the arms. You know, on the arm sluds. You
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: better be on it every single day, every single day.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You gotta know what you do. You gotta trust what
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you do, because right now I don't like you're trusting
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: what you're doing. You gotta go in there and trust real.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm sitting I got you every day I've been
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to this day, still do I even one at the crib.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I got my kids. I got my kids. I'm trying
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to take. I tell him a kid, I say, hey, boys,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: what daddy do for a living?
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Sack quarterbacks? What y'all do for living?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Sack quarterbacks? So let's do it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Come on, we work, Let's work this car shot. I
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: get my oldest, I got to work with the eyes closed.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I switch it up on them. I poset and I
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: get back on. I got my second boy, he getting
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: corporate on it now, six years old, out there working. Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: we get it. Because I feel like if I can
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: train them to do it, yeah, then I'm always keeping
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: it on my mind, you know what I mean. So
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I think it kind of that's what I do.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: So it's like if I can do what I do
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: just without thinking, then it's like who can stop me?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: In my mind?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Because if you if I can't cross chopping, I'm gonna
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: runn your face right and start that and now you're
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: thinking about.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Me running out your face and gets back at it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: So it's you know, everything got a plan in my mind.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But you know, run now to eighty five oh me
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: two eighty five dollars system.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wal come on in, yeah okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And I've been liking it. Okay, I've been liking it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Look you say that until you like fifty snaps in
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: in that back they.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Talk, Josh, I know you like to play. Well, we're
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: gonna have to rotate you a little bit.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm like, I gotta feel it out.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: So we argued about that for a little bit. But
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to understand the reason and this. But i
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: like to play.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And I got that from Kalayis Kalays he never want
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to get out the game. I used to hate playing
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: behind class.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: But Clays, I got you.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: It's ten players. I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm good
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: at the game.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Bro come on, man, let me get her up. But
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: but I feel like the longer I can get into
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: a groove.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: You feel, you feel the flow, and you feel like.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing how you see this?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Look at this hill he leaning on he rocket like
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: you know those are things I get when I'm in
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the when I'm in the game, right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: If I'm watching, I'm not, I'm watching this, D'm gonna
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: get at the ball?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, absolutely, that flowed the game.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: It's serious, It's real. Now tell me about this.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: You like you've had You've had rushers, but now you've
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: got Trayvon Walker on the other side. Uh, what have
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you given him? So his game is like you become
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a counterpart to him, you know, so they have to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: worry about you and him, you know, the double tu
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: They got to work about Trayvon or you know whatever,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: whatever he's doing. You know, if you guys suit sides,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: it's like what are you looking at his moves? Or
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: is he looking at you? Or it's like, how are
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: you guys rushing the korla quarterback.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's a trust. I always tell him to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: trust himself.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: You know you didn't.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You didn't get here for no reason, you know, And
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: trust your process and trust your moves. You know what
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like I just told you, I know what
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: moves I know I can win on. I've trained it,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I've trusted it, I've instilled it in my mind and
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: body that I can work these moves and you and
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: not I can do it. Tray, you have to do
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the same thing. You have to mold your body. What
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: do you do best?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: His get off? His get off is insane, Like.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Getting to point A to point B is probably the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: best I've ever seen in person. You know, he's strong,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: he's long. So it's just like, okay, you're fighting this dude.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Your get off is five yards, ten yards and two steps.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Right now, you on them because you just naturally like that.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: How are you going to beat them?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Now? Like, when you get on them, what are you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: gonna do? What's your plan? You know? Run down?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, well if he started that, then what's your next plan?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Now it's angles? So now if you keep running with this,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you know you your power angling them, But you get
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: him size scissors?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: How does that working?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: So you gotta really you know, and there's been games
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: with Bro just consistently just blipping dudes, you know, because
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing, you know what I'm saying.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So I think just consistently like being on top of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: him and helping him out because you know, I always
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: felt like, you know, I'm just got do this. By
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: myself but also be accountable for everybody else. But now
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it's like trade. But we've also had time with Trade.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: You know that we know that they running a time
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: or then inside, all right, I'm gonna go.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna quarterback flush. You know you really feed if
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you step up, it's me. If if he flushed around,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it's got to be you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's one thing with trade too, is like
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: having that trust with each other because it was it
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: all changed for me. We played Miami in the preseason
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and we did a flush game and like in practice,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: we did it and Trace stopped, like he didn't finish
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the flush right, he just stopped, and the quarterback just
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: flushed out, And so it was like, bro.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: You gotta do it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: And then in the game we did it, did the
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: same thing. He stopped, the quarterback flushed out.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: So it was like it was like that moment where
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: it was like, no more, everything that we do, everything
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that we changed for in practice is going to happen.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So let's not train bad habits in practice and walk
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: through and all the things that we do. Let's make
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: sure we're excellent and everything we do so when we
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: get into the game, it's even better or it's better,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like at least have that habit.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Of doing it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So you know, that's one thing that we just talk
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: about all the time, like in practice, like you know,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: when we communicate, we communicate and the you.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Know, like yeah, yeah, I hear you.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Now, if you tell me you want to work some
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: you want to work something, I trust you, I trust
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: what you see, I'm gonna do it. And it goes
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: vice versas, but not only us but the interior as well.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Hey hey, I got an exit right here. I've been
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: watching on tape second and long. He likes this type
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: of like the kickset, so boom, that's gonna give you
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a lot, hey texted texting or goose it or you
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Hit that as because he's coming
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: out to me, or we can run a quick exit
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: because he's bailing. So it's just like having a trust.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: And that's where I want to get to. It's like
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: having a trust between the line that you know when
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: me and Clay's rush it said one thing, we said
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: one or two things to each other and it was
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: like sack because we trusted each other. He said something, Hey,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Josh's running text all right.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Cool, gotta run it. Boom, I'm hating it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Text Sack, Hey, Clay's exit exit got you your fellow
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: boom exit sack.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: So, but we had that trust and that was things
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: that we was hanging out outside the building as well.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: So it's like we had like I want to bring
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: that officially to Jacksonville, you know, and I think we
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: got a lot of We got a good core now
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: people that's been there. Yeah, so it's like I know
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: what we get in into, and I know we can
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: be still don't know how to say you running rects
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: last name, Yep, there we go, Travis t Yeah, them
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: become a core member of the team. That's only when
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I have like Eddie and.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Like you never won. Oh man, let me let me
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: get you out of here. But think about think about
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: this when you're setting up moves right on the edge
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to understand angles. It's a lot like hooping, right, It's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: about getting your mad off centered. So like in my mind,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: if I'm on the edge and I'm like yo, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like you know, when you're really teeing off, you have
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: two three sacks or you're just killing your dude, you
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: go to the sideline, I'm like, I'm hooping right now,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I'm in my bag. I heard you. I heard you
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: hoop back in the gap, right, got a little little
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: basketball to you. Does that Do you think that helps
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you out to play football? Uh?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely care But you don't want to have
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: that mindset at basketball mindset playing nobody.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm just saying, Like, for sure, the ability
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: to ice show, the ability to shift your weight to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: shift angles, like you know when you exactly that band.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: For sure?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean definitely when I look at uh, when
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I watched Vaughn you know, back in because I told
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: you I've been on the Super Bowl journey, right, so
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: when I watched back to the fifteen when he went
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: on that little run, he was the best player in
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the playoffs.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: The whole every game.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: And the way for him to work that bending keep
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: going full speed is just how do you do that?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: How do you work that?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: How you get to that angle? Like what was your mindset?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: What was your what was your thought process? Like, what
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: what did you do to get yourself in that position
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: at all times? If that was that was a boom
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: because he was just power Russian and as soon as
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: he stopped his feet just running around. So it's like
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that's the that's like you about to. So I can
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: see it all relate.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I come from a basketball family as well, right if
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you know my sister in w Yeah, so I watch
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: her a lot. Is she a big post player and
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I love seeing her get in the post because the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: idea get her post everybody back off.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: She working that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Spill, you know what I'm saying, working come through, dribble, dribble,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: cross pull up.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: All that all has a face because now when she's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: backing them up, they gonna right, you know what I'm saying,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: They stop their feet, she's spinning. They don't stop their feet.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: She can keep backing up, go for easy lay. So
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I think body position all matters.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: You having a power angle. I'm rushing you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I just ran down your face. I might not I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: might not a one, but you your face right now.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: So now when I give you the same illusion, just
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: like you said, they dumb, get that same illusion. You're
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: gonna stop your feet getting ready to catch it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Now you can't recover.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: So I think it dude, got a good you know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I think that's my.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Foundations where it transfers over absolutely, Now do you agree
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: with You know, was that a month ago, a month
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and a half ago when Austin Rivers hit everybody with
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the there's more NBA player that could transfer over to
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL, the NFL, the NBA, And I was like,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: that don't even make sense. Like that, we talk about
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: height differential and even then who, like.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, who would like? Who would who could? Who
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: could play?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Who could have a successful career from the NBA to NFL?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Them dudes is huge.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: They're tall, bro Polo. I went to the Magic playoff
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: game man and I took a picture.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: But I'm big, right, you know. I took a picture
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: about this dude. This dude is tall.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: How do you play?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: What do you play? What would you play? You play
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: tight end?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: You're dying, You're you're getting you that you can't one
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: over the middle. It's over any six seven and above
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you at tight end you're just a red zone threat
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: or your your career is over.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: The boys not playing receiver, right, the boys not playing running?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: But who playing running? Look? I see basketball players like
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: like run routes and they look like buddy off of
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: off of American whatever, like the American bro, And I'm like, like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: it's just be upset, Like.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Man, I really got it like that. But guys can
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: really hoop like everybody we got hoping we got there's
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: some people in the in the NFL that can really
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: hold like and we the same size as them. Something
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: somewhat two.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Threes, you know, one two threes for sure translatable for
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. There's not twenty guys
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that are six eight and above.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And Trayvon shout out. The trade is a dog. He's
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: a whole trade.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, Travon Walker, He's a dog like dog in the post. Yeah,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: you know, I used to be trying to hate because
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: like but then I'm really watching like I got it,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: damn like big body and it looked good too, bro,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: real smooth.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, Who's Who's uh last? What I have for you
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: is who's the best dress on your team? Best dressed
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: game day, fits in and out, not just not just
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: oh he was killing the one week consistently.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: We got a couple of guys. We had a couple
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: of guys. Can I put myself in it?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: You can?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: If you think if you can definitely put myself on there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm more of a classical you know if
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you know, you know type of dude, you know, but
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: looking really clean. We got Roy who wears like a
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: lot of colorful, you know, suits and who can really
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: put it together, Big Roy, and you got.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Roy Robinson. Robinson, you got him.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: And then you got Andre Cisco, who's more of the
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you know, the the retro or more up to date
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: fashion trends. He come out with some stuff I like, uh,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Kurt Kurt is like five Now that's what I'm saying.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Okays, the fit everything, thank you?
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, Like I said that with shoe sizes, like, man,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you can't cut to me on know you wear team dude,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I can't wear those.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I gotta see. I gotta win my Zenias dogs just
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: to black sneakers.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I got the Gucci, I got, I got I got
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: with Zeni shoes, right, But it's all for the big guys.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Bro. Like it gets harder, it gets hard to drip,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and yet we find you know what I'm saying, drip,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: don't drown.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: No, what's the hair do this year?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Bro? Man, I'm just too straighting up. Bro, I'm just
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: keep this saying light. I've been I've been playoff list
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: for for like three years. I'm focusing. I might even
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: chop it all off, just like I could kill all
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: maintenance work. But I'm I'm focused in. I'm locked in.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: We're gonna make it real simple. I was gonna have
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: fun with it. I was like, bro, like three years
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: of no playoffs, you don't get to have fun. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: need to win a super Bowl like I've got. I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: got two years.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Left in this thing. You know, congratulations too, they just
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: get paid no extension, bro, Like yeah, congratulations though. Let
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: me know, I'm just.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Like, give you a year fifteen, man, just slide in.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Congratulations on that too. But people with the same franchise.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to be right before.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Year fourteen coming in doing the Super Bowl, I said,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: hopefully I'll see you there. Yes, I'm being that thing, Yes, sir,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: but appreciate you, uh jumping on the pod. Shout out
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to everybody who has made you the man that you
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: are today, because clearly you got your head on the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: right way, and I just want to say thank you
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: for stopping by off the You me and your host
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: cam j Hey, I just like looking back at him,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to look back at you, to look back at him