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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
- 0:09Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club long, the roaster is feeling in
- 0:11Speaker 2: for Jess. And we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,
- 0:14Speaker 2: we got the brother d Vince.
- 0:15Speaker 1: She welcome.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys having me.
- 0:17Speaker 1: How you feeling, man, I'm feeling great, feeling good.
- 0:20Speaker 4: It's crazy. Just not even here.
- 0:21Speaker 5: She's been saying, we need to get Vini up here forever. Yeah,
- 0:25Speaker 5: she's not even here.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Damn, that's my dog.
- 0:28Speaker 4: I love how you know, just just from the Instagram.
- 0:30Speaker 6: Yeah, Instagram and running into her like I went to
- 0:32Speaker 6: a few comedy shows. I started doing comedy. So it's
- 0:35Speaker 6: like I've watched a bunch of comedians. Time I go
- 0:38Speaker 6: watch a live I'm like, bro, she's good. Yeah, she's
- 0:40Speaker 6: actually great. She understands the artist absolutely.
- 0:43Speaker 7: How do you just start doing comedy?
- 0:45Speaker 3: Like?
- 0:45Speaker 7: What made you?
- 0:47Speaker 4: Who told you?
- 0:52Speaker 6: No? I started doing a lot of speaking right because
- 0:55Speaker 6: mental health stuff, and it's a different type of keynote
- 0:57Speaker 6: speaking and moderating here and there, and what I was
- 0:59Speaker 6: doing that like, you know, the audience will laugh a
- 1:02Speaker 6: lot and in my family, like you know, I joke
- 1:04Speaker 6: around bullshit a lot with my friends.
- 1:06Speaker 3: And stuff like that.
- 1:07Speaker 6: So someone was like, yo, I think you should start
- 1:10Speaker 6: doing comedy because it's going to build a different type
- 1:12Speaker 6: of confidence for speaking. And I was just like, all right,
- 1:15Speaker 6: bet let me just you know, give it a try.
- 1:16Speaker 6: So I just started hosting it and I started developing
- 1:19Speaker 6: a love for it, and I started developing a love
- 1:21Speaker 6: for it, and with that, I just you know, last year,
- 1:25Speaker 6: I did like fifteen cities. This year, I started off
- 1:28Speaker 6: with one. I'm probably gonna do like twelve more. And
- 1:31Speaker 6: I mean it's fun. I feel like I'm already in an anomaly.
- 1:33Speaker 6: By the grace of God, you know, I made it
- 1:35Speaker 6: out in my situation. It's like why not just try
- 1:38Speaker 6: like whatever at this point.
- 1:39Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:39Speaker 5: So when you were on stage, like you know, doing
- 1:42Speaker 5: your mental health advocacy, you was telling like your story, yeah,
- 1:45Speaker 5: about things that you're going through, and people thought it
- 1:47Speaker 5: was funny.
- 1:52Speaker 3: The way I would break it down.
- 1:53Speaker 6: The analogies that I use to have people, especially our community,
- 1:57Speaker 6: grass the concept of mental health, and so I make
- 2:00Speaker 6: in a way that it's just digestible, you know what
- 2:02Speaker 6: I'm saying and doing that. You know, people are laughing,
- 2:05Speaker 6: and I'm like, you know what, what if I like
- 2:06Speaker 6: try to like hit the stage and like just even
- 2:09Speaker 6: drag it out some more.
- 2:10Speaker 4: It makes sense.
- 2:11Speaker 5: I mean, you know they always say community to say
- 2:13Speaker 5: tears of a clown, right, So it's like one thing
- 2:16Speaker 5: about black people. We know how to turn our trauma
- 2:18Speaker 5: into something that either people can learn from when people
- 2:20Speaker 5: can be entertained.
- 2:21Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Let's let's go back.
- 2:24Speaker 2: For most people that don't know who Da Vinci is,
- 2:25Speaker 2: or they probably Seenior but don't know the name, how
- 2:28Speaker 2: did you get into the acting business? I'm sure people
- 2:30Speaker 2: know you from power or from bemth How did you
- 2:33Speaker 2: It's crazy, how did you get into.
- 2:36Speaker 3: The same block? But how did you?
- 2:44Speaker 1: How did you get into acting?
- 2:46Speaker 2: I know you started off as a rappers, So break
- 2:47Speaker 2: the people down where you're from, how you started and
- 2:50Speaker 2: you're at that.
- 2:51Speaker 6: So I'm from Brooklyn and I was in Brooklyn then
- 2:56Speaker 6: my mom moved to Jersey. My parents split up, and
- 2:59Speaker 6: so I was like nor Orange and North Area and
- 3:01Speaker 6: then back and forth between Brooklyn and North I was
- 3:03Speaker 6: getting in trouble a lot.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Then I moved to Florida.
- 3:06Speaker 6: And then I got arrested and my dad was like, yo,
- 3:09Speaker 6: I gotta keep him. I was just a badass kid,
- 3:12Speaker 6: just following the people in my environment, the people around me.
- 3:15Speaker 3: And when I was in Florida, I went.
- 3:17Speaker 6: To all white high school and that that kind of
- 3:20Speaker 6: changed my life. That changed my perspective on life. I
- 3:22Speaker 6: was seeing things that I never really saw before. So
- 3:24Speaker 6: it really just started developing my brain in a different way.
- 3:27Speaker 6: And then afterwards when I went to college, at one
- 3:30Speaker 6: point my brother was like, bro, like you should we
- 3:32Speaker 6: should really like try this like rappers, shit, it's entertaining shit.
- 3:35Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, that's impossible. It's not school.
- 3:36Speaker 1: You went to college.
- 3:37Speaker 3: I was to college Central Florida, Central Florida.
- 3:39Speaker 6: Yeah, And I was like, bro, this is bush. This
- 3:41Speaker 6: is not going to be a real thing or whatever.
- 3:42Speaker 6: And I was like, you know whatever, I'm gonna try.
- 3:44Speaker 6: And I moved back up north my mom's and then
- 3:47Speaker 6: Gloria Carter shout out to her jay Z's mother. She
- 3:49Speaker 6: had this Diamonds in the Rough. I don't know if
- 3:51Speaker 6: you guys ever heard that.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Vietnam. Yeah, yeah, it's like a little restaurant thing foundation.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Yeah, Jamaicans fun.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was yep exactly. It was
- 4:01Speaker 3: Caribbean food.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
- 4:03Speaker 6: So mad people would come there and every Thursday she
- 4:06Speaker 6: had this open mic thing. So I got discovered from there.
- 4:08Speaker 6: So I was like ripping doing music there and then
- 4:10Speaker 6: I was in the studio.
- 4:11Speaker 3: I was recording a lot.
- 4:12Speaker 6: But then after a certain point, I was like starting
- 4:14Speaker 6: to lose love from it for it, because you know,
- 4:16Speaker 6: it was one thing when you're on the outside looking in,
- 4:18Speaker 6: but then when you really start getting in the business
- 4:20Speaker 6: and then you see what they're promoting, what they're pushing you,
- 4:22Speaker 6: the direction that they're pushing you towards, I'm like, bro,
- 4:24Speaker 6: I'm not trying to perpetuate this, like like this is
- 4:26Speaker 6: really like people take this serious, you know.
- 4:28Speaker 3: So I was like the I don't like this.
- 4:30Speaker 6: At the same time, I was told like, I should
- 4:32Speaker 6: start acting too, because it's gonna help with stage presence.
- 4:34Speaker 6: So I started acting. Shout out to Mark John Jefferies.
- 4:37Speaker 6: He was the one the boy from Losing Isaiah and
- 4:39Speaker 6: he played fifty and get Ridy to Die, Triumph and
- 4:42Speaker 6: The Little Seas and he was teaching his acting class
- 4:44Speaker 6: in New York and I was like, yo, let me
- 4:46Speaker 6: take it. And I started taking it and then I
- 4:48Speaker 6: started meeting people. Shout out to Little Mama because she
- 4:50Speaker 6: was the one like Yo. She was like, Yo, come
- 4:52Speaker 6: to LA, like you should beat my manager.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Ah.
- 4:54Speaker 6: Then the rest was his history. And then, by the
- 4:56Speaker 6: grace of God, I just started booking consistently.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Little Mama wants you to be her manager.
- 5:00Speaker 3: No, no, no, she was like yeah, she was like no, come
- 5:01Speaker 3: to that. Yeah.
- 5:02Speaker 6: She was like, come to LA and meet my manager.
- 5:03Speaker 6: She was like, you're talented, you speak different languages, you're rappy,
- 5:06Speaker 6: do this and that. And I was just like, bro,
- 5:08Speaker 6: she ain't want to sign me, and she was like, bro,
- 5:10Speaker 6: just going and I went, and you know, I just
- 5:12Speaker 6: started booking consistently.
- 5:13Speaker 4: How was the all white high school? What did that
- 5:15Speaker 4: do for you? Other they called you to.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Nah? Nah? It was.
- 5:22Speaker 6: It was crazy because you started realizing, like how broken
- 5:26Speaker 6: the environment in the community that I wasn't was, you
- 5:29Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. And then when I went there,
- 5:31Speaker 6: you know, people was judging me based off like they
- 5:34Speaker 6: was judging my intellect based off how I spoke English.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Like you know, I remember one.
- 5:37Speaker 6: Time I was talking to this one other black dude
- 5:39Speaker 6: in my class and I was like, nigga, you weak.
- 5:41Speaker 3: And she was like you weak, it's your y you possibly.
- 5:45Speaker 6: I was like damn, and like she made this big
- 5:46Speaker 6: scene in front of the class, and I was like.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Right, right, exactly, exactly exactly right. That was crazy.
- 5:56Speaker 6: But anyway, I was like, bro, like that's all vernacular.
- 5:58Speaker 6: Like we choose to speak like it because, you know,
- 6:01Speaker 6: because our environment. But I could speak properly if I
- 6:03Speaker 6: want to. But then I started realizing, I'm like, yo
- 6:05Speaker 6: aroun these white folks, like I gotta change how to speak.
- 6:07Speaker 6: And I just started educating myself and I started reading books,
- 6:09Speaker 6: and I just started changing a lot because I was like,
- 6:12Speaker 6: in this environment, like my upbringing, it ain't conducive here,
- 6:16Speaker 6: it ain't serving me here, like I'm just like a criminal,
- 6:18Speaker 6: you know. So it changed me a lot. And then
- 6:20Speaker 6: I had teachers that believed in me more like up North.
- 6:23Speaker 6: One of my teachers, they told me, literally, I swear,
- 6:25Speaker 6: she was like most going to end up dead in
- 6:28Speaker 6: jail is white, yeah North, Yeah, in Jersey actually, And
- 6:33Speaker 6: I should shout out to school, but I didn't even
- 6:35Speaker 6: do it.
- 6:36Speaker 4: But she was off the teacher.
- 6:37Speaker 6: The teacher my name was actually miss Dixon, but she
- 6:41Speaker 6: was like, yeah, most gonna end up or on the
- 6:44Speaker 6: army or like the dead ending job. And I mean
- 6:46Speaker 6: she wasn't lying because that is what happened. We got
- 6:49Speaker 6: her to this because we was just a yeah, it
- 6:52Speaker 6: was like I was bad as hell.
- 6:54Speaker 4: You ain't say that now you gotta get some content.
- 7:00Speaker 6: Know, But but but the thing is, but the thing is, though,
- 7:03Speaker 6: it's like she still could have been more positive because
- 7:06Speaker 6: we was just we don't know, we was just kids,
- 7:08Speaker 6: you know.
- 7:08Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
- 7:08Speaker 6: But when I was in Florida, like I remember, I
- 7:10Speaker 6: had this teacher like I was in a like a
- 7:12Speaker 6: slower math class when I first got there, and she
- 7:15Speaker 6: was just like, yo, you're so smart, like you could
- 7:17Speaker 6: really like like pass all the ship And I passed
- 7:20Speaker 6: all my tests and she was like, you need to
- 7:21Speaker 6: be in alge But honest I was like what I said,
- 7:23Speaker 6: I'm not gonna do that. And I went from having
- 7:24Speaker 6: DS and F to graduate high school with a four
- 7:26Speaker 6: point one GPA.
- 7:27Speaker 5: Wow, So you're point about the teacher. The teacher could
- 7:29Speaker 5: have said, hey, if y'all don't change y'all lifestyle, if
- 7:32Speaker 5: you don't change the way you're acting, then you're going
- 7:35Speaker 5: to Yeah, that's how I was always did she say that?
- 7:37Speaker 2: And because sometimes you only hear what you want to hear,
- 7:39Speaker 2: all you hear is that ain't gonna be ship.
- 7:41Speaker 1: But you ain't missed the first part. She's like, if
- 7:43Speaker 1: y'all don't change, y'all ain't gonna be shit.
- 7:44Speaker 6: Yeah, no, you probably right. She probably did say that,
- 7:46Speaker 6: but I just heard like and I was like, damn.
- 7:48Speaker 6: I was like, all right, bet, I hope she have
- 7:50Speaker 6: a TV.
- 7:51Speaker 4: Now what you said about the school.
- 7:53Speaker 5: You know, Steve Harvey allegedly sends on when it's I
- 7:56Speaker 5: think it's the old teacher somebody that told me, never
- 7:58Speaker 5: make it a TV.
- 7:59Speaker 4: So he sends them every.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Year since the new TV.
- 8:04Speaker 3: A lot of money.
- 8:05Speaker 5: But what you said about the cold twitching is real
- 8:07Speaker 5: because a lot of times they try to get people
- 8:09Speaker 5: flacked for cold twitching, but it's not that you cold twitching.
- 8:11Speaker 5: Sometimes you just don't want to reinforce negative stereotypes exactly
- 8:14Speaker 5: Black people exactly exactly.
- 8:16Speaker 6: And I feel like we perpetuate that enough of the media.
- 8:19Speaker 6: We got to some of us got to be a
- 8:20Speaker 6: good representation of us, because we're not looking.
- 8:22Speaker 8: Too good identity wise, though, Like going from your neighborhood
- 8:27Speaker 8: and which you were used to into this new school
- 8:29Speaker 8: and feeling that way, like, yo, I gotta kind of
- 8:31Speaker 8: switch it up a little bit. How did because you're
- 8:33Speaker 8: still growing up at the same time, who were you
- 8:36Speaker 8: talking to about like what your identity as a man
- 8:38Speaker 8: should be, because that's such a hard place to be
- 8:40Speaker 8: and where you're trying to you're over here, but you
- 8:42Speaker 8: come from this. You got family that are still you know,
- 8:44Speaker 8: back in your old neighborhood. Like what was that journey?
- 8:47Speaker 6: Like, I think, honestly, I was just by the grade.
- 8:52Speaker 6: I was just going through the motions, you know what
- 8:54Speaker 6: I'm saying. So I really didn't have like a figure
- 8:58Speaker 6: to look towards as like an identity for a man.
- 9:00Speaker 6: I was just I mean, my older brothers, like I'm
- 9:02Speaker 6: the baby. So my oldest brother like shout out to
- 9:04Speaker 6: him down like he basically like raised us, you know,
- 9:06Speaker 6: until I went to my pops. But you know, I
- 9:09Speaker 6: guess that was my idea of a man.
- 9:11Speaker 3: And he was like this.
- 9:12Speaker 6: High school feena basketball player, so he was he really
- 9:16Speaker 6: was that father figured. So I looked up to him
- 9:18Speaker 6: for real, like as much as like what a man
- 9:20Speaker 6: should be. But the rest is honestly is about a
- 9:22Speaker 6: grace of guy, Like I'm super fortunate, Like I'm well
- 9:26Speaker 6: aware that I'm not supposed to be or really like
- 9:29Speaker 6: able to express myself, be disarticulate. Because the amount of
- 9:33Speaker 6: feedback that I received from people, I'm like, damn, why, yeah,
- 9:36Speaker 6: so shocked. I'm like, Oh, that's because they looking at
- 9:38Speaker 6: the numbers like this shouldn't happen, you know.
- 9:42Speaker 3: So it's just God.
- 9:43Speaker 4: That's God.
- 9:44Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I don't
- 9:45Speaker 5: care about no statistics. You know what I'm saying. I
- 9:47Speaker 5: don't care what you tell me. You can tell me
- 9:48Speaker 5: I'm one of forty million or this many people from
- 9:51Speaker 5: my hood ended up like this what they got to
- 9:53Speaker 5: do with me?
- 9:54Speaker 3: Right? You know? No, that's facts product of grace.
- 9:58Speaker 4: Now.
- 9:58Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you remember the first show you.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Yeah, Marvel, Jessica Jones, How was that? Tell us? Tell
- 10:03Speaker 3: us the story?
- 10:04Speaker 6: Yeah, I was scared of I was just like, it
- 10:07Speaker 6: was two weeks after I signed with an agency, and
- 10:10Speaker 6: I remember like my manager calling me at the time
- 10:13Speaker 6: and she was like hey, she was like, hey, you
- 10:15Speaker 6: booked it.
- 10:16Speaker 3: And I was just like what And she was like yo,
- 10:17Speaker 3: you actually booked it. She actually like stopped playing.
- 10:21Speaker 6: I was like, and I just remember being shocked and
- 10:23Speaker 6: I just felt like Will Smith in that Pursuit of
- 10:24Speaker 6: Happiest Moment. I was just in the Bronx walking from
- 10:27Speaker 6: the gym, the Crunch gym, and I was just like, bro,
- 10:30Speaker 6: this is crazy.
- 10:30Speaker 3: I'm like, I ain't telling no one this right now, your.
- 10:32Speaker 4: Fresh mom memory part did you play? I used to
- 10:34Speaker 4: watch all of.
- 10:34Speaker 6: The Marbles, so I was this this this guest star,
- 10:38Speaker 6: basically this scientist. She My dad was like a scientist
- 10:43Speaker 6: and when I was born, my face was like disfigured
- 10:46Speaker 6: and shit like that. And then he took me to
- 10:48Speaker 6: some lab and then fixed it. And then Jessica Jones
- 10:50Speaker 6: was trying to find out how did that happen?
- 10:52Speaker 3: And she was trying to get.
- 10:53Speaker 6: To my dad, so she got to me and then yeah,
- 10:56Speaker 6: so then she had to like she used her super
- 10:57Speaker 6: strength and shit, and I was like acting like she
- 10:59Speaker 6: was mad strong. Bro, this is crazy. And the scene
- 11:01Speaker 6: takes like eight hours. I was like, bro, this is long.
- 11:04Speaker 3: Now.
- 11:04Speaker 5: I used to watch I used to watch Jessica Jones
- 11:06Speaker 5: Lue Cage, Iron Fish, Dead Devil.
- 11:08Speaker 3: I watched all damn well he was hit.
- 11:11Speaker 5: Now now you want to the Marriag J Blige Family
- 11:14Speaker 5: Affairs series. The thirdest thawing of the series is, uh,
- 11:16Speaker 5: what is it called? Has it been doing that?
- 11:20Speaker 3: That's been great? Honestly, it's it was.
- 11:23Speaker 6: That's probably one of my most favorite projects, only because
- 11:26Speaker 6: it was a role that had nothing to do with
- 11:28Speaker 6: being black.
- 11:29Speaker 3: It was just existing, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:31Speaker 6: And it promotes the family nucleus, you know, in the
- 11:34Speaker 6: black community specifically. I feel like a lot of us,
- 11:37Speaker 6: you know, we promote things that is to our demise
- 11:40Speaker 6: and to our destruction. So to be a part of
- 11:42Speaker 6: a project so early in my career, you know, that
- 11:45Speaker 6: is promoting you know, what happens when having a family,
- 11:49Speaker 6: the sacrifices that's being made and.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
- 11:51Speaker 6: I might, bro, that's fire, bro, because it's it's done
- 11:54Speaker 6: in a way that I feel like, you know, some
- 11:56Speaker 6: kids watching this at home, Probert like, yeah, I want
- 11:58Speaker 6: that one day, you know, because we've got so much
- 12:00Speaker 6: content material that is doing the complete opposite.
- 12:04Speaker 3: So to play something like this, it's like, Bro, I
- 12:05Speaker 3: feel like God is like smiling down, like yeah, good job, bro.
- 12:08Speaker 7: And when I watched it.
- 12:09Speaker 8: All I kept thinking to myself, is like, man, he
- 12:11Speaker 8: loves her so much, like you're Ben, Yeah, Ben, well
- 12:15Speaker 8: you know what I mean. In the movie People, that
- 12:19Speaker 8: happens when people, Oh yeah, people be watching them, Like, Bro,
- 12:22Speaker 8: I feel like you like her?
- 12:23Speaker 3: Really, I'm like no, Bro, Like I'm doing my job, man, Like.
- 12:26Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, as an actor in the in the Family Affair,
- 12:29Speaker 8: watching it, I was like, wow, he loves her so much.
- 12:32Speaker 8: But there were times, I mean, y'all had there was
- 12:34Speaker 8: a lot that y'all had to deal with, Like I
- 12:36Speaker 8: don't want to give it away, but as an EP
- 12:38Speaker 8: on the project, because you're EP right on the project,
- 12:41Speaker 8: are you gonna involved EP where you're making those decisions
- 12:43Speaker 8: to show like it was like subtle moments like one
- 12:46Speaker 8: time I think y'all went to a restaurant and she
- 12:48Speaker 8: didn't order something and you notice and you're like, what's
- 12:50Speaker 8: wrong because you didn't order blah blah blah.
- 12:52Speaker 7: Little stuff like that.
- 12:53Speaker 8: Are you being like, oh, we should do that as
- 12:55Speaker 8: an EP or is that coming frowhere else?
- 12:57Speaker 6: Like that that adjustment though, But a lot of things
- 12:59Speaker 6: like yeah, I'm definitely like behind see, I'm like, guys,
- 13:02Speaker 6: we can't put this out like I'm like, bro, this
- 13:03Speaker 6: is not like this don't really happen, you know. And
- 13:06Speaker 6: a lot of times it was dope because they gave
- 13:08Speaker 6: us the creative freedom to say certain things because oftentimes
- 13:10Speaker 6: stories like this, a different race is heavily involved, Like
- 13:14Speaker 6: there's Caucasian producers that really don't really know some of
- 13:17Speaker 6: the intricate details what happened in the black community.
- 13:19Speaker 3: So they really like sat back.
- 13:21Speaker 6: A lot of times it was very like collaborative, you know,
- 13:24Speaker 6: and shout out to the producers John, Jordan, Davis, Jeremy
- 13:27Speaker 6: and everyone, Bruce and everyone, Mary of course, like all
- 13:30Speaker 6: of them.
- 13:30Speaker 3: So it was fire because.
- 13:31Speaker 6: I was really able to be like nah, guys, like nah,
- 13:33Speaker 6: this is going to send the wrong message, and like
- 13:36Speaker 6: they listened. I was like, Yo, this was is crazy,
- 13:38Speaker 6: Like what like people don't even know, Like I really influenced.
- 13:41Speaker 5: That before you was in the business, did you pay
- 13:42Speaker 5: attention to the images of black people on television? Cause
- 13:44Speaker 5: I heard you mention that a few times.
- 13:47Speaker 6: And I thought it was very disrespectful personally, Like you
- 13:50Speaker 6: know a lot of times that you meet Europeans or
- 13:52Speaker 6: white people that's really not exposed to black people in
- 13:55Speaker 6: this country. They have this preconceived notion that we're like
- 13:59Speaker 6: very ignorant. Amount of times that people are like, oh man,
- 14:02Speaker 6: you're so young and you speak so well, and particularly
- 14:04Speaker 6: I'm like as opposed to what.
- 14:06Speaker 3: I'm like, Yeah, I'm like, bro.
- 14:08Speaker 6: Like it's like because it's that many people that is
- 14:11Speaker 6: like because oftentimes what we do and I've been watching
- 14:14Speaker 6: because I've been watching out for a while and different things,
- 14:17Speaker 6: and I'd be like, bro, it's like they'd be asking
- 14:19Speaker 6: the right questions to the wrong people sometimes and they
- 14:22Speaker 6: say something like, oh my god, now the world think
- 14:25Speaker 6: that's how we all think.
- 14:26Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, now that was a good one.
- 14:33Speaker 6: But it's just like I'm like, bro, you haven't people
- 14:35Speaker 6: answer certain questions about politics and they don't know shit
- 14:38Speaker 6: about it or certain things about it. I'm just like
- 14:39Speaker 6: important things. I'm like, bro, And I'm not trying to
- 14:42Speaker 6: sit and say I know everything. I would it's okay
- 14:44Speaker 6: to say I don't know. I'd be like, bro, I
- 14:45Speaker 6: don't have enough information on this, so I'm not about
- 14:47Speaker 6: to just give the wrong information. But you know, and
- 14:50Speaker 6: when that happens a lot or or the content and like,
- 14:52Speaker 6: I mean, we're looked at as violent as fuck, Like
- 14:54Speaker 6: people are scared of us, boy, Like I'm brother.
- 14:57Speaker 3: Our stereotypes is just it's crazy. We're perpetuating the hell
- 15:01Speaker 3: out of it.
- 15:01Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right, but that's something that was designed
- 15:05Speaker 5: since the beginning of it, That's true. It's not even
- 15:07Speaker 5: about this modern day era of media that we're in.
- 15:10Speaker 5: Like literally, the big black man has been the villain
- 15:15Speaker 5: in history forever.
- 15:16Speaker 6: Right, right, and to justify slavery and racism and all
- 15:20Speaker 6: this stuff towards black people.
- 15:22Speaker 3: But I just feel like we don't have to perpetuate it,
- 15:25Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
- 15:25Speaker 6: But a lot of times it's like because during the
- 15:27Speaker 6: Reconstruction era, that little short twelve years, like we were
- 15:30Speaker 6: outpacing white people really like like fast in this country.
- 15:34Speaker 6: And then that's when you know, the whole concept of
- 15:35Speaker 6: black people do eye and they started just tarnishing our
- 15:38Speaker 6: image and making us look like the most feared thing
- 15:40Speaker 6: on planning earth. Right, But then it's just like and
- 15:43Speaker 6: not the only ways we get famous, I mean, the
- 15:45Speaker 6: only way we get successful is usually like a situation
- 15:48Speaker 6: that's just such an anomaly, you know, like for every
- 15:50Speaker 6: like I love fifty, I love whole I love it,
- 15:52Speaker 6: but like for every one fifty, for every one hole
- 15:54Speaker 6: you know how many millions being locked up? Yeah, you
- 15:57Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like that's it's you know, that's crazy,
- 15:59Speaker 6: like or for everyone Lebron like to be a Lebron,
- 16:02Speaker 6: but that's point. Zers of God only make a handful
- 16:04Speaker 6: of big niggas that can move like that, and so
- 16:06Speaker 6: many people like really think they can be that. I'm like, bro,
- 16:09Speaker 6: like you got your priority fucked up, Like you're going
- 16:11Speaker 6: after something that is far from the majority, Like you're
- 16:14Speaker 6: going after something that is pure favor and grace, and
- 16:17Speaker 6: that's a favor, that's a supernatural advantage that God gave
- 16:20Speaker 6: you to really fulfill his will and his jobs. It
- 16:23Speaker 6: was like that's not something that you could really bank on, bro,
- 16:25Speaker 6: you know. And it's like but you got like we're
- 16:27Speaker 6: banking on these things, which is like crazy, you're.
- 16:31Speaker 4: Not wrong or it is intentional.
- 16:32Speaker 5: You ever seen that old movie it's old though, like
- 16:34Speaker 5: it's dumb more called Birth of a Nation and it
- 16:37Speaker 5: showed all of the black people and basically they were
- 16:41Speaker 5: elected officials and they were like, you know, eating chicken
- 16:44Speaker 5: with their feet and licking their fingers like it was
- 16:46Speaker 5: just that's where actually the negative stereotype of chicken came from.
- 16:49Speaker 5: But they did that because they wanted to show this
- 16:51Speaker 5: is what happens if you put black people in politics, and.
- 16:54Speaker 4: This was like in the parities. I think it was.
- 16:57Speaker 4: So it's absolutely intentional.
- 16:59Speaker 5: And I always think about like after the nineties, because
- 17:02Speaker 5: we didn't we grew up on in a very positive era.
- 17:05Speaker 5: We had great representation of great music on TV and music, right,
- 17:09Speaker 5: so you had the Cosby Show in the Different World
- 17:11Speaker 5: and the Martins and the Living Singles and the Girls,
- 17:14Speaker 5: like all of these shows showed black people just being great,
- 17:17Speaker 5: working class right Americans, And it was like it was
- 17:21Speaker 5: like it was like an intentional shift to reality television.
- 17:24Speaker 3: Right. Why do you think that is?
- 17:25Speaker 5: I don't ask everybody from the nineties that question, Like
- 17:28Speaker 5: I asked, like Michael Jamon wanted up here Eric that
- 17:30Speaker 5: I asked him that.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Because it wasn't like it wasn't successful.
- 17:32Speaker 4: It was super successful. Cosbe showed the number one show
- 17:35Speaker 4: on television. Different World was number two, So it's like,
- 17:37Speaker 4: how does that happen? It was intentional, and you know.
- 17:40Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I know something. Yeah, just not saying
- 17:43Speaker 3: I just got here.
- 17:44Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Tell me what you think I.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Just started visiting.
- 17:52Speaker 6: If I started really doing it, if I started really
- 17:54Speaker 6: doing comedy on like a whole other level, start touring,
- 17:56Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, making some ams like million
- 17:59Speaker 6: in the bank, I'll start I think I know exactly
- 18:03Speaker 6: what's going now I'm playing.
- 18:04Speaker 3: I don't.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Well, congratulations to appreciate you. You win, Glollo, you.
- 18:09Speaker 2: Got pregnant and you know did nice cute photo shore.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Glow is funny. She is so famous that.
- 18:18Speaker 4: You Lauren brought up whoever.
- 18:22Speaker 3: You' say?
- 18:23Speaker 1: That was just.
- 18:25Speaker 3: John, that's my dog. That's my dog.
- 18:29Speaker 7: But the Glow thing, I mean it was for the.
- 18:31Speaker 3: Video, right, Yeah, yeah, of course it was for the video.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Glow is so famous, bro, It's crazy.
- 18:35Speaker 6: People was coming up to me in the street saying, oh,
- 18:37Speaker 6: that's glows baby daddy. I'm like, first of all, Jesus,
- 18:40Speaker 6: like I've been in this ship long and Glow has
- 18:42Speaker 6: been around. And then second of all, like other people
- 18:45Speaker 6: coming up to me and saying, oh my god, you
- 18:46Speaker 6: don't trap my girl.
- 18:49Speaker 3: And it was like yeah, and they was thinking I
- 18:50Speaker 3: trapped Glow.
- 18:51Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, I make like a good like salary,
- 18:53Speaker 6: Like I've been making good money. Like before Glow even
- 18:56Speaker 6: came into this, I'm like, you're saying I trapped her.
- 18:59Speaker 3: That's crazy you. Her following is like, legit, bro, are.
- 19:01Speaker 4: You gonna put a ring on? Or you're just gonna
- 19:03Speaker 4: keep it.
- 19:05Speaker 3: More?
- 19:05Speaker 1: Kids?
- 19:06Speaker 3: Nah, that's a thing. Glow on kids. Glows focused on
- 19:11Speaker 3: career right now, that's priority.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Who introduced you to just you know, therapy and mental health?
- 19:16Speaker 5: Like like who told you, like, you know you need
- 19:18Speaker 5: to go out there and do some work on yourself.
- 19:19Speaker 5: Why did you have people around you that was doing
- 19:21Speaker 5: it and you decided to do it?
- 19:22Speaker 3: That's good?
- 19:23Speaker 6: I think I think it's my boys like that. You know,
- 19:27Speaker 6: I got some friends that you know, are strong believers
- 19:29Speaker 6: in the Bible, like whether it's their Conservative Christians, their Pentecostal,
- 19:33Speaker 6: to hold a witness, things like that, And in the
- 19:35Speaker 6: conversations that we have, oftentimes when I'm talking to them,
- 19:38Speaker 6: it's like they hold up a reflection in my face.
- 19:40Speaker 6: And it's really good because a lot of times with
- 19:43Speaker 6: certain spiritual things, it's like you could only see yourself spiritually,
- 19:47Speaker 6: just like you can only see yourself physically through a mirror,
- 19:50Speaker 6: or if somebody is telling you there's some way for it.
- 19:52Speaker 6: If I'm telling you there's some way for it, and
- 19:54Speaker 6: there's no mirrors, ever, you've got to trust what I say.
- 19:56Speaker 6: So there's certain things that only another person can see
- 19:59Speaker 6: that's in your soul. So I I think I've been
- 20:01Speaker 6: fortunate enough to be around people that you know, they
- 20:03Speaker 6: hold me accountable, you know what I'm saying, if I'm
- 20:06Speaker 6: acting a certain way, or if I'm just not if
- 20:09Speaker 6: I'm just being too fleshly, you know, they bring that
- 20:11Speaker 6: to the forefront.
- 20:12Speaker 3: So which forced me to go to therapy. At one point.
- 20:15Speaker 3: It was like, bro, you know you could just do it.
- 20:17Speaker 6: And I was like, man, because I grew up with like,
- 20:19Speaker 6: oh geez, the way it's just like they call that
- 20:21Speaker 6: all type of soft weak names that exactly everything they
- 20:26Speaker 6: needed the most right, And then I went I went
- 20:29Speaker 6: there and then you know, just thinking about certain things
- 20:31Speaker 6: in my childhood and that the way they was breaking
- 20:33Speaker 6: that down and bring it up. I was like, yo,
- 20:35Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, we all need this, and it's like
- 20:38Speaker 6: a superpower. It's like the first time I feel like
- 20:41Speaker 6: you ever just look at yourself in the mirror, get
- 20:43Speaker 6: a haircut and brush your teeth.
- 20:44Speaker 3: Like that's what it does spiritually to you.
- 20:46Speaker 6: Like a lot of people are walking around like bro,
- 20:48Speaker 6: they like they're so unaware of what's going on, and
- 20:51Speaker 6: the ironic things, like they think they know so much.
- 20:54Speaker 3: It's like the people that's just.
- 20:55Speaker 6: So far from themselves and from reality. They got the
- 20:58Speaker 6: biggest opinions and know so much. But you know, I
- 21:00Speaker 6: feel like when you go there, it kind of humbles
- 21:02Speaker 6: you and it allows you to see yourself from like
- 21:04Speaker 6: a third party perspective, and it's healing.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Man, we need that.
- 21:08Speaker 8: In the family affair, you deal with your brother who
- 21:11Speaker 8: has a mental health issues himself, and you try to
- 21:14Speaker 8: help him through that he stops taking his meds. This's
- 21:16Speaker 8: a bunch of stuff that happens. But then also you
- 21:18Speaker 8: start having your own like struggles because you.
- 21:20Speaker 7: Have a lot of pressure.
- 21:22Speaker 8: And I remember the first scene when you're in your
- 21:24Speaker 8: office and it's like an anxiety attack. And I recognize
- 21:28Speaker 8: it as an anxiety attack because we talk about it
- 21:30Speaker 8: a lot. But do you have people reaching out to you?
- 21:33Speaker 8: I guess it didn't are yet never mind scratch that
- 21:35Speaker 8: question in you doing that? Does it trigger anything for you?
- 21:39Speaker 8: Because you had to go through therapy yourself. I'm assuming
- 21:41Speaker 8: you dealt with some stuff that was heavy, kind of
- 21:43Speaker 8: like with your character Ben deal with Like did any
- 21:45Speaker 8: of that trigger you?
- 21:46Speaker 3: Definitely?
- 21:47Speaker 6: Definitely, Like I I my life at home is like
- 21:51Speaker 6: that's a tough one. Like you know, my brothers, My
- 21:56Speaker 6: brothers go through it and then going through it. My
- 22:00Speaker 6: family gone, like they're going through it currently, you know.
- 22:03Speaker 6: So there's definitely a lot of pressure. You know that
- 22:06Speaker 6: that movie in a way it was kind of mirroring
- 22:08Speaker 6: like some real stuff in life. But yeah, I just
- 22:12Speaker 6: I just try to keep good people around to just
- 22:14Speaker 6: help carry me and lift me up.
- 22:15Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a lot going on back home.
- 22:17Speaker 6: And usually when you're the one that, like, you know,
- 22:20Speaker 6: you make it out, so to speak, it's like it
- 22:23Speaker 6: is a blessing and a curse, you know, because then
- 22:26Speaker 6: you start speaking the language that nobody around you understand anymore,
- 22:29Speaker 6: and it's like it's you're speaking everything but English, and
- 22:34Speaker 6: it's the most frustrating thing because it's like you watch
- 22:37Speaker 6: the way you can help somebody, they're asking you for
- 22:39Speaker 6: advice within the things that you're saying, they're not even
- 22:41Speaker 6: taking it. And then you're just like it's almost going
- 22:43Speaker 6: to drive you into insanity when you're the only when
- 22:45Speaker 6: that makes out, and then you're forced to create an
- 22:48Speaker 6: extended family. Thank God that we can meet people and
- 22:50Speaker 6: have this family. But at the same time, you're just
- 22:53Speaker 6: receiving so much shit from back home that it's like
- 22:57Speaker 6: it's it's such a fucked up thing, Like it's like
- 23:01Speaker 6: it's not what it's all cracked out to be.
- 23:03Speaker 3: It's it's a blessing.
- 23:03Speaker 6: Because yeah, you're financially free, but that you've been tationed
- 23:06Speaker 6: this financial freedom, but you've been also building yourself in
- 23:08Speaker 6: a prison simultaneously, and you're like, damn.
- 23:11Speaker 1: When do you separate though? When do you say? You
- 23:13Speaker 1: know what? Sometimes I gotta step away so I can
- 23:15Speaker 1: be free mentally.
- 23:16Speaker 6: That's why I got a lot of dogs, and I
- 23:18Speaker 6: go on I go into nature, and most of my
- 23:20Speaker 6: friends is not entertainers, Like I love the.
- 23:23Speaker 3: Business Hollywood, but that's not like that's not a real place.
- 23:26Speaker 6: Had I had a real life, you know, so, and
- 23:28Speaker 6: I'm so aware that that's not a real place. And
- 23:30Speaker 6: that's the way I try to separate out of that.
- 23:32Speaker 6: And I just I ride horses, just I just do
- 23:34Speaker 6: mashing in nature. Bro Like that's the only thing that's
- 23:36Speaker 6: when I communicate with God, I free scripture, Like God
- 23:39Speaker 6: is the real reason why I'm like saying, like the
- 23:42Speaker 6: reason why I was talking to the Surgeon General about
- 23:45Speaker 6: this in the US doctor for Fake Murthy. So he
- 23:47Speaker 6: hit me up last year to hop on the last
- 23:49Speaker 6: leg of his tour what we have made to connect
- 23:52Speaker 6: because of the national crisis right now, the mental health situation,
- 23:56Speaker 6: and we were just having these conversations.
- 23:58Speaker 3: Man, he was just like, it's literally because.
- 24:01Speaker 6: We're not connecting to higher power anymore, you know, And
- 24:06Speaker 6: it's like we literally have I believe it's like a
- 24:07Speaker 6: worship chromosome and like every human being to praise the
- 24:10Speaker 6: deity to do this, but we're doing we're taking on
- 24:12Speaker 6: these burdening these burdens in a narcissistic way, and like
- 24:15Speaker 6: we're carrying a weight that we were never meant to carry.
- 24:18Speaker 6: Like we're trying to fight this battle that's way bigger
- 24:20Speaker 6: than us. And when you just put all your worries,
- 24:22Speaker 6: you can't sell all that onto the Lord. Like it's
- 24:24Speaker 6: like it seems like a lot, but you're like, nah,
- 24:26Speaker 6: I'm good, Like I know, I'm just fighting a good
- 24:28Speaker 6: fighting bro. Like this really is bad. I'm just a soldier,
- 24:30Speaker 6: so it just it alleviates that. And that's how I'm
- 24:32Speaker 6: able to just go about my day like, by the
- 24:35Speaker 6: grace of God. I'm not on any type of you know,
- 24:37Speaker 6: certain stabilizers mentally or whatever, because.
- 24:40Speaker 3: God is that for me.
- 24:41Speaker 4: You let a lot of people let ego lead instead.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Of letting God lead.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, that's.
- 24:46Speaker 4: What I always tell folks. But I believe in God
- 24:48Speaker 4: and therapy.
- 24:48Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're a religious person, like I'm not gonna
- 24:50Speaker 5: sit down and talk to nobody, Well, I respect you
- 24:53Speaker 5: for being religious, and I'm a spiritual person, not religious,
- 24:55Speaker 5: but I believe in God and going to therapy.
- 24:57Speaker 6: And I appreciate that. Man, what you preach, because you
- 25:01Speaker 6: talk about therapy a lot in your book and interviews
- 25:04Speaker 6: and certain things. I was like, yo, like he's not
- 25:06Speaker 6: just like he just don't talk man ship.
- 25:08Speaker 3: Like you really.
- 25:10Speaker 4: Like I started going to therapy.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Oh that's what's up. Man.
- 25:13Speaker 5: At twenty sixteen, I started. I started going to therapy.
- 25:16Speaker 5: And I think, whether you want to or not, if
- 25:18Speaker 5: you're doing it for real, it's.
- 25:19Speaker 4: Going to change.
- 25:20Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 25:21Speaker 5: You can't. You can't hide it. Like being Mexican belly
- 25:24Speaker 5: when he was under cover, you know in the nation.
- 25:27Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he was undercover, but it got to him.
- 25:30Speaker 4: It's like, yoh, shoot.
- 25:31Speaker 5: So once you start doing it, like it's going to
- 25:34Speaker 5: change if you're doing it for it's inevitable.
- 25:36Speaker 2: No, you're right, it's one hundreds right absolutely. Now I
- 25:38Speaker 2: want to go to BMF. How did you get BMTH?
- 25:41Speaker 2: How is that that situation?
- 25:43Speaker 6: That was man that was fired? I was actually doing
- 25:45Speaker 6: the pandemic, so like I was fortunate enough. Again, Man,
- 25:49Speaker 6: I hate to keep saying God.
- 25:50Speaker 4: But no, I would hate to say I don't.
- 25:53Speaker 3: I don't want to be that person. But like God's
- 25:56Speaker 3: timing is crazy.
- 25:57Speaker 6: So like right before the pandemic was blown up on
- 26:00Speaker 6: All American, and when the pandemic came, All American got
- 26:04Speaker 6: way bigger, Like it was like the biggest show in
- 26:06Speaker 6: the world because everyone's saying the ass at home. So
- 26:08Speaker 6: we was like we got so famous that it was
- 26:12Speaker 6: it was unprecedented, Like it was like there was going
- 26:15Speaker 6: to cancel the show on c W and Netflix made
- 26:17Speaker 6: this show like just a household.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Name and and doing that. I had like.
- 26:22Speaker 6: Three different offers for different shows, and I saw BMD coming.
- 26:25Speaker 3: I was like I was like, oh, this is fire.
- 26:27Speaker 6: But I was like, for a second, I thought it
- 26:28Speaker 6: was one of the power things because I'm not gonna lie.
- 26:30Speaker 3: I never wanted to do power.
- 26:31Speaker 6: I never only because it's like I feel like I
- 26:34Speaker 6: wanted my first drug thing story to be a true story.
- 26:39Speaker 6: I didn't want to just do it just to do it,
- 26:40Speaker 6: because when you're doing it, and no shade to anybody
- 26:43Speaker 6: that do it. The Little Power Boys Michael and Ganny,
- 26:45Speaker 6: I love Little Power I love they cool. They cool,
- 26:48Speaker 6: they cool as that, like I really they did. They
- 26:51Speaker 6: little and stature and just every Jesus. But but nah,
- 26:54Speaker 6: not just that, not just that. But I was just like,
- 26:57Speaker 6: if I'm gonna do that like I would, it would
- 26:58Speaker 6: be fire if it's like a true story, you know.
- 27:00Speaker 6: And I was like, Yo, this is two brothers that
- 27:02Speaker 6: ran one of the larger domestic distributions the history of
- 27:05Speaker 6: this country.
- 27:05Speaker 3: And I was like, bro, this is crazy.
- 27:07Speaker 6: And then I did an audition and they knew who
- 27:09Speaker 6: I was, and I fifty watched the show All American,
- 27:12Speaker 6: the showrunner, a lot of producers, and it was like
- 27:14Speaker 6: one audition that I like, I tested and I was
- 27:17Speaker 6: reading a long time meech little meech and it was like, bro,
- 27:21Speaker 6: like you know, you you bring something out of him
- 27:24Speaker 6: that whatever, whatever, And I booked it and I was
- 27:28Speaker 6: like bro, and I actually went out for b Mickey
- 27:30Speaker 6: and taow Yeah, so I really Yeah.
- 27:33Speaker 4: Did you ever sit with Tea?
- 27:34Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, Okay, that's a that's a real that's a
- 27:37Speaker 3: real dude. Man. It's a solid guy, you know. And
- 27:40Speaker 3: he's like he's like an oracle.
- 27:42Speaker 6: He's just like this wise og that just sit back,
- 27:45Speaker 6: you know, and then just he narrated from his perspective,
- 27:48Speaker 6: but he tried not to get in a way. And honestly,
- 27:50Speaker 6: one of the greatest compliments he gave me was when
- 27:53Speaker 6: he was just like, Bro, the way he portraying his
- 27:55Speaker 6: character is fire. And even off screen, it's like when
- 27:58Speaker 6: people see you, they see me and everything that you're doing,
- 28:01Speaker 6: it's such a great representation of me.
- 28:02Speaker 3: And I just want to say thank you.
- 28:03Speaker 6: I'm like, to me, that was like an Emmy, you know, like,
- 28:06Speaker 6: forget what the critic's got to say. Like the man
- 28:08Speaker 6: that I'm portraying is like saying thank you, and you're
- 28:10Speaker 6: doing a hell of a job.
- 28:11Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, that's crazy.
- 28:12Speaker 5: Let me have a question because you know it is
- 28:14Speaker 5: based on a true story, but you talk about the
- 28:15Speaker 5: negative images of black people. BMF was huge drug dealers,
- 28:20Speaker 5: So how do you justify playing that role?
- 28:23Speaker 3: Right?
- 28:23Speaker 6: No, which is a great question because I've been asked
- 28:25Speaker 6: that before. This interview said the same thing, and I
- 28:28Speaker 6: was like, okay, and it was like, how do you
- 28:30Speaker 6: feel that you're promoting that any you're perpetuating this image.
- 28:33Speaker 6: I was like, well, if you watch an eight twenty
- 28:35Speaker 6: four a Blumhouse film or anything like that, or like
- 28:37Speaker 6: a scream and somebody's like stablished someone fifty seven thousand times,
- 28:40Speaker 6: do you think that I'm going to go stab someone
- 28:42Speaker 6: fifty seven thousand times?
- 28:43Speaker 3: No? And if that's what you're thinking, you probably shouldn't
- 28:45Speaker 3: watch TV. Right.
- 28:46Speaker 6: So what I'm doing is like I feel like, one,
- 28:49Speaker 6: you should receive it in the same manner that.
- 28:51Speaker 3: It's art, but two is a true story. That's a
- 28:53Speaker 3: true story.
- 28:54Speaker 6: About black people that was part of one of the
- 28:57Speaker 6: most successful human trafficking in the history of the world.
- 29:00Speaker 3: The trans and landing.
- 29:01Speaker 6: Slave trade was one of the most successful human traffick
- 29:04Speaker 6: Actually it probably is is. Actually, Yeah, the so you
- 29:08Speaker 6: got these two brothers in when slavery was abolished and
- 29:10Speaker 6: all this stuff was happening. Now you got these brothers
- 29:13Speaker 6: in the middle of nowhere. Everybody know poverty is the
- 29:15Speaker 6: mother of all crime. They know, statistics show it. Benjamin
- 29:18Speaker 6: Franklins said that all the founding fathers know. That's why
- 29:21Speaker 6: systemically they put these positions. They put these things in
- 29:23Speaker 6: a certain position just for you too, fell right, and
- 29:27Speaker 6: you got these brothers that rose out of that, that
- 29:29Speaker 6: created this organization and ran this organization that they ran.
- 29:34Speaker 6: And I just asked people, I challenged them to be like,
- 29:36Speaker 6: imagine if they had a better environment, that would have
- 29:39Speaker 6: been Steve Jobs, that could have been the right brothers,
- 29:42Speaker 6: that could have been Elon Muskin. Then that could have been,
- 29:44Speaker 6: you know, to have that courage and to lead that
- 29:47Speaker 6: many men to really listen to you and follow you
- 29:49Speaker 6: and salute to you in what you're doing, especially right exactly,
- 29:55Speaker 6: not exactly, and something illegal too, because you know, if
- 29:58Speaker 6: we're doing something illegal together, I don't really got to
- 30:00Speaker 6: listen to because I could tell the cops on you
- 30:02Speaker 6: at any moment. But they had, you know what I'm saying,
- 30:04Speaker 6: I'm like, bro.
- 30:05Speaker 3: No, they had a cold bro, that's crazy.
- 30:07Speaker 6: So I just challenged people to look at it from
- 30:09Speaker 6: that perspective and be like, damn, Like we're a product
- 30:11Speaker 6: of you know, I still think we live in a
- 30:13Speaker 6: great country, but you know, the founding fathers of this
- 30:16Speaker 6: country building on a certain plans field, and you got
- 30:19Speaker 6: brothers that rose out at a time that there wasn't
- 30:22Speaker 6: positive influences at all. So I think if they were
- 30:25Speaker 6: born in different times of better influences, they would have
- 30:27Speaker 6: been scientists, they would have been anything else.
- 30:29Speaker 5: Ever, read the book Outlives No by Malcolm Gladwell and
- 30:33Speaker 5: he talks about that in the book, and he just
- 30:35Speaker 5: talks about how like all of these different people at
- 30:37Speaker 5: different points in time were like they were basically being
- 30:41Speaker 5: at the right place, the right time, with the right circlestances.
- 30:43Speaker 5: So that's how you become a Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos.
- 30:46Speaker 5: It was somebody else, but they all came up around
- 30:49Speaker 5: the same time. They're all around the same age, but
- 30:51Speaker 5: it was just the right place, right time, right circlestances.
- 30:54Speaker 5: When you got that kind of mind, Yeah, to your point, Metall,
- 30:58Speaker 5: you could have led any.
- 30:59Speaker 3: For exactly exactly.
- 31:01Speaker 6: And that's the beauty and the story, And that's how
- 31:04Speaker 6: I look at it so. I mean people could say, yeah,
- 31:06Speaker 6: you just choose to see what you want to see,
- 31:08Speaker 6: but I feel like I'm seeing it objectively in the
- 31:11Speaker 6: correct way.
- 31:11Speaker 7: Did you get a chance to talk to Big Meats?
- 31:14Speaker 3: Yeah? I used to.
- 31:14Speaker 6: I used to actually talk to Big Meats a lot,
- 31:16Speaker 6: like FaceTime, because Little Meats would be facetiming one set
- 31:19Speaker 6: while he was locked up and you know, and talking
- 31:21Speaker 6: to him, and he was just like, yo, bro, they
- 31:23Speaker 6: be playing that all American shit all the time, like
- 31:25Speaker 6: and this ship, Like we watched all that ship. He's
- 31:28Speaker 6: cool to So like those guys, honestly, they're like that's
- 31:31Speaker 6: like Bigfoot. You know, those are like it's it's like
- 31:34Speaker 6: foreign creatures that It's like, yo, what Like every rapper
- 31:38Speaker 6: mentioned these people, and I'm like, by the grace of guy,
- 31:41Speaker 6: I'm around these juggernauts, like real street legends and.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Then the hip hop legends.
- 31:46Speaker 6: I'm just like, bro, sometimes they feel like a dream
- 31:48Speaker 6: and I'm gonna wake up and be like, bro, I
- 31:49Speaker 6: had the wildest dream last night.
- 31:51Speaker 4: You know. It's funny.
- 31:52Speaker 5: I remember the first time I saw the BMF documentary,
- 31:54Speaker 5: I said to myself, this shit ain't real, Like if
- 31:57Speaker 5: this was real, all of these dudes would be in
- 31:59Speaker 5: jail that happened.
- 32:01Speaker 1: So I hope that.
- 32:03Speaker 4: No.
- 32:04Speaker 5: So I hope that the show continues on so people
- 32:07Speaker 5: can actually see the consequences to the lifestyle as well.
- 32:10Speaker 4: I think that's a good teachable moment too.
- 32:12Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And I think that's gonna happen.
- 32:14Speaker 6: I think people are going to see the ending and
- 32:17Speaker 6: what happens, so so that way, when people are considering this,
- 32:20Speaker 6: they know that they.
- 32:20Speaker 3: Could really lose a great portion of their life.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Absolutely well, definitely check out Family of Fairs?
- 32:27Speaker 3: Are you?
- 32:27Speaker 4: Are you in meach cool? Like in real life?
- 32:29Speaker 3: How little we cool? Like? It's a it's all love.
- 32:34Speaker 3: We just you know, he was so busy and he can.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Tell you rides horses man and being nature the.
- 32:44Speaker 7: Horse.
- 32:46Speaker 6: He rode the horse after you got the grocer put
- 32:49Speaker 6: the groceries on the horse.
- 32:50Speaker 3: Means it means me in a different world, even the
- 32:52Speaker 3: little world I got love on. But you know, we
- 32:55Speaker 3: just on this side of the planet. I'll be on
- 32:57Speaker 3: that side of the planet. We come together and we
- 32:58Speaker 3: work and we do our things.
- 32:59Speaker 4: And what was that thing about?
- 33:02Speaker 8: I was going there, what's your so? First of all,
- 33:04Speaker 8: funny Marcos trying to take your girl.
- 33:06Speaker 3: My girl. Oh my god.
- 33:09Speaker 7: Can you get tired of people bringing that up to you?
- 33:11Speaker 8: Like just that because screen y'all interaction is very complicated,
- 33:15Speaker 8: and then off screen there's like moments too.
- 33:17Speaker 7: It's like y'all was holding hands.
- 33:20Speaker 3: I was just being a gentleman, you know.
- 33:22Speaker 6: I was just she was just she was I think
- 33:24Speaker 6: she was a little tipsy, and she's like, I can't
- 33:25Speaker 6: help me walk, And I was like, yeah, I got you.
- 33:27Speaker 3: And I was just doing what my mama raised me
- 33:29Speaker 3: to be, Like.
- 33:30Speaker 4: It'll be turned up.
- 33:31Speaker 5: You'll be telling sending all your checks to La La,
- 33:33Speaker 5: panting favorites.
- 33:37Speaker 7: He got a couple of checks aspared.
- 33:38Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Facts, Okay, okay, Yeah, made him blush that I ain't
- 33:43Speaker 2: blushed the whole time.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 33:48Speaker 3: That's crazy.
- 33:49Speaker 7: A little bit harder now though, de smiles will be big.
- 33:52Speaker 8: I'm not saying, but yeah, I mean, I guess so
- 33:55Speaker 8: nothing could you always says nothing there? But even when
- 33:58Speaker 8: y'all was on Jason Lee's sit down show, it was
- 34:00Speaker 8: a minute ago. Yeah, even there, I was like they kind.
- 34:03Speaker 6: Of cute though, like there's a lot that's my dog,
- 34:06Speaker 6: Like I think live is one of the most genuine,
- 34:08Speaker 6: absolute humans in this business. Like and she got a
- 34:13Speaker 6: spirit that's like you almost feel like you knew her forever.
- 34:15Speaker 6: Like when you're around her, she brings like out like
- 34:18Speaker 6: this kid and you you know what I'm saying. So
- 34:19Speaker 6: that's probably why when you mentioned her name, I was smiling.
- 34:21Speaker 3: Shit. But and then she gave me great advice, like
- 34:24Speaker 3: that's my dog.
- 34:25Speaker 8: What's the best piece of advice she's given you? Personal
- 34:27Speaker 8: advice or work advice whatever.
- 34:30Speaker 6: I think she she she helped me see situations for
- 34:32Speaker 6: what it is and like that and.
- 34:34Speaker 3: Ship, you know what I'm saying, like see the other
- 34:36Speaker 3: side and looking at it from an objective point of view.
- 34:39Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, get my emotions out of
- 34:41Speaker 3: the ship.
- 34:41Speaker 6: And then like you and then or if I'm like, yo,
- 34:43Speaker 6: I'm having a conversation with this person, like what do
- 34:45Speaker 6: you think? And then she would really call me and
- 34:48Speaker 6: like give me the inside school or if she don't know,
- 34:50Speaker 6: she was like, wait, let me find out. And at
- 34:51Speaker 6: one time I was, I mean like from the littlest
- 34:53Speaker 6: things to like sometimes someone they stole my social media
- 34:56Speaker 6: and they're trying to sell it back to me for
- 34:58Speaker 6: like two hundred km and I'm like, bro, yeah, and
- 35:00Speaker 6: I was like yo, Li, like what the hell?
- 35:02Speaker 3: No?
- 35:02Speaker 6: And she hit up Kim's people and they gave me
- 35:05Speaker 6: a social media person and then got my ship back
- 35:08Speaker 6: in forty eight hours.
- 35:10Speaker 8: People, I didn't know what Kim was talking about.
- 35:18Speaker 3: This little kid you know that social media?
- 35:23Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, and that is her, like the feds.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Anything is happening.
- 35:27Speaker 7: Turnover happened when Kim.
- 35:28Speaker 3: Bro like forty eight hours. Wow, I thought I was done.
- 35:32Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, like I'm gonna have
- 35:33Speaker 6: to pay this or something like yo, forty eight hours.
- 35:36Speaker 3: I don't know what they did. It was like, bro,
- 35:38Speaker 3: they posted crazy stuff. Now the didn't post it.
- 35:41Speaker 6: They were just trying to sell it back first, and
- 35:43Speaker 6: then I was thanking God didn't post craziness.
- 35:45Speaker 3: They didn't, and I don't know how they did that.
- 35:47Speaker 5: How did you feel when the Power got I don't
- 35:49Speaker 5: want say canceled, but dude, they ended Power.
- 35:51Speaker 3: I felt good about it. No, No, I was like, man,
- 35:56Speaker 3: that's like they're out of a job. I know that feeling.
- 35:59Speaker 6: But I know they're about to have another spin off,
- 36:01Speaker 6: like it's gotta be Yeah, it's like the Avengers, bro,
- 36:04Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, just like Chris
- 36:05Speaker 6: Evans and the rest just resigned the Marvel, there's obviously
- 36:09Speaker 6: about to be another Avenger, so you know there's about
- 36:11Speaker 6: to be something else.
- 36:12Speaker 4: Like Power Book three. They already four two.
- 36:16Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, yeah, it's probably be like a new Force.
- 36:19Speaker 8: The last episode of y'all last season, y'all were like
- 36:21Speaker 8: in the middle of like the desert.
- 36:22Speaker 7: It was like Mexico song. Oh yeah right, so y'all
- 36:26Speaker 7: y'all have another season?
- 36:27Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that should be. I don't know when it's
- 36:29Speaker 3: coming out, but I'm sure like the first quarter this.
- 36:31Speaker 7: Year got you how do you feel?
- 36:32Speaker 8: I don't even know if you see this, but like
- 36:34Speaker 8: for that last season, a lot of what I was
- 36:36Speaker 8: seeing online with people being like all right now, the
- 36:38Speaker 8: storyline is getting unbelievable.
- 36:41Speaker 6: I mean it's it's TV and film, you know, Like
- 36:44Speaker 6: I think I think they got to over exaggerate and
- 36:47Speaker 6: do certain things. I mean, personally, some of the creative decisions,
- 36:51Speaker 6: I'd just be sitting back like damn. But I mean
- 36:54Speaker 6: there's only so much I could It's almost like when
- 36:56Speaker 6: you play on the field, you're playing football, basketball, whatever's
- 37:00Speaker 6: got to run with the route that the coach tell
- 37:01Speaker 6: you too. And it's like it's it's bigger than you,
- 37:04Speaker 6: you know, and and yeah, but I shut up myself.
- 37:08Speaker 3: It's like, bro, I just got in the game. I'm
- 37:10Speaker 3: not trying to piss people off.
- 37:11Speaker 4: But the BMF story is unbelievable. It's just it.
- 37:14Speaker 5: If you watched the documentary, I'm not watching it back
- 37:16Speaker 5: in the day, and I'm like, this is not real,
- 37:18Speaker 5: no way, this ship is really going on in Atlanta.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Like no, yeah, And he brought zoo animals in the club.
- 37:26Speaker 4: Hand cane.
- 37:27Speaker 5: That's the homely hander. She did that party. She still
- 37:29Speaker 5: does amazing parties. Now she did that party.
- 37:31Speaker 2: People are still finding calls with money in it, like
- 37:34Speaker 2: cars that they own, limousine.
- 37:35Speaker 1: They they'll find a panel and they have like money
- 37:38Speaker 1: in it.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I believe.
- 37:39Speaker 8: Yeah, she's like, what's happening that so and it's the
- 37:45Speaker 8: upcoming season?
- 37:46Speaker 7: Do you figure out?
- 37:47Speaker 8: Love wise? Like where are you what you're doing? Because
- 37:49Speaker 8: you're all over the place. You got it's like two
- 37:51Speaker 8: families at this point.
- 37:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
- 37:53Speaker 6: He's I think he's more focused on the money. Like
- 37:56Speaker 6: I think I don't think he's ever going to figure
- 37:58Speaker 6: it out. I think it's still not figured out, honestly,
- 38:01Speaker 6: Like it's not figured out to the point that the
- 38:03Speaker 6: real Marquisia is getting pissed, you know, like how that
- 38:06Speaker 6: story is being portrayed.
- 38:07Speaker 3: So I don't think I think it. Yeah, like they not.
- 38:09Speaker 3: It wasn't really thinking about family for real like that.
- 38:12Speaker 6: They were just like I mean, of course like they
- 38:13Speaker 6: were to a certain extent, but it was like, yo,
- 38:16Speaker 6: let's figure this situation out, you know. So I don't
- 38:18Speaker 6: even think they really like had the capacity to be like, yo,
- 38:21Speaker 6: we want to like I'm going to think about really
- 38:24Speaker 6: just sitting here and building family with this one or
- 38:26Speaker 6: that one, you know, But maybe that happens.
- 38:28Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 38:28Speaker 8: Do people come up to your real life upset about
- 38:30Speaker 8: how you doing the show because you mentioned that with
- 38:33Speaker 8: absolutely people.
- 38:34Speaker 6: Really just be like, bro, why you do my girl
- 38:36Speaker 6: sitting like that? Tody mentioned, I'm like, bro, first of all,
- 38:38Speaker 6: when you're talking about the show, you use my real name,
- 38:41Speaker 6: and then when you're see me outside you use the
- 38:44Speaker 6: character name. I'm like, bro, that's kind of crazy. When
- 38:47Speaker 6: you're saying like yo, Da Vinci was doing this for
- 38:50Speaker 6: La La that's on the show, but when you see
- 38:52Speaker 6: me in real life, you're like, yo, Terry, Yo you Marquisha,
- 38:55Speaker 6: that's my I'm like, yo, bro, like you got to
- 38:57Speaker 6: stick to the you know what I'm saying because it
- 38:58Speaker 6: sounds crazy, But yeah, people all the time, man like man,
- 39:02Speaker 6: gangsters be coming up to me about yeah. Absolutely, And
- 39:06Speaker 6: then the gangsters be coming up to me like yo, bro.
- 39:08Speaker 6: Like first of all, they be like, yo, what is
- 39:09Speaker 6: like to fuck Laa.
- 39:11Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, that's not real. And I'm like, Bro,
- 39:14Speaker 3: ain't no way. Bro.
- 39:15Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, broke time, Like Bro, that's not real.
- 39:17Speaker 6: And then they start going into their meet and tea stories.
- 39:19Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, like if you tell me this ship now,
- 39:21Speaker 6: I'm an accomplished kind of you know. I'm like, I'm
- 39:24Speaker 6: telling you, and they just they just shut up and
- 39:26Speaker 6: they just keep it pushing. But like the amount of
- 39:28Speaker 6: gangster stories that I have to run away from, Bro,
- 39:30Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, please.
- 39:31Speaker 3: Like what's your dream? Ro? But probably to play Toussaint
- 39:36Speaker 3: Levity or Dusalen.
- 39:38Speaker 6: There was like two characters that was very influential on
- 39:40Speaker 6: the Haitian Revolution. The Haitian Revolution was one of the
- 39:43Speaker 6: most profound revolutions in the history of the world, only
- 39:45Speaker 6: because it was the first time black people gain their
- 39:48Speaker 6: independence on paper, you know. And it was a small
- 39:51Speaker 6: little army that destroyed Napoleon Bonaparte's army, who was known
- 39:55Speaker 6: to be like the best war general at the time.
- 39:57Speaker 6: So I think it'll be fire to like be a
- 39:59Speaker 6: kind in that story. Like that's like a real Marvel
- 40:02Speaker 6: superhero to black people, you know, Like they created their
- 40:05Speaker 6: own language, which is the language that I speak fluently,
- 40:07Speaker 6: which is Creole, which is seventy five percent French, and
- 40:09Speaker 6: like different languages, and they switched it up just so
- 40:12Speaker 6: when they're fighting when it was in the war, like
- 40:14Speaker 6: the French people can't really understand, but we can understand French,
- 40:17Speaker 6: you know. So it's kind of fire. And I think
- 40:19Speaker 6: that story is like dope A's hell, and that's one
- 40:21Speaker 6: of the things that don't ever get talked about. I
- 40:24Speaker 6: would love to play a character like that.
- 40:25Speaker 4: I mean, that's why they punished in Haiti to this day.
- 40:27Speaker 6: Oh damn, Charla Mane, you said it, brother, I am
- 40:29Speaker 6: not say yeah, yeah, not for real Dominican, right, yeah, yeah, whatever,
- 40:35Speaker 6: I'm not Dominican.
- 40:37Speaker 2: I am not dominic He just said, he line, I'm
- 40:38Speaker 2: not doing I'm fully blackred thousands.
- 40:41Speaker 7: What you really thought that? You can't be mad that
- 40:44Speaker 7: people think you're doing wrong? You date line, I'm.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Not dominicanis My parents are black black like black? You
- 40:52Speaker 1: know what I say? I don't speak no Spanish, nothing nothing.
- 40:58Speaker 4: I don't know why you don't claim it. But oh,
- 41:00Speaker 4: pretty I am what you know for a Dominican DJ Awards.
- 41:05Speaker 4: Why do you nominate?
- 41:06Speaker 1: What?
- 41:06Speaker 3: You say?
- 41:07Speaker 1: It every morning on the breakfast lub and people really think.
- 41:09Speaker 3: That he really got nominated?
- 41:11Speaker 4: That where your daddy from?
- 41:13Speaker 1: My dad he's black.
- 41:14Speaker 4: Where's he from? He's black? Where's he from?
- 41:17Speaker 1: He's black?
- 41:18Speaker 3: You know what?
- 41:18Speaker 7: Sh where's you from?
- 41:23Speaker 1: Dominica? Oh, it's a Caribbean island.
- 41:25Speaker 2: Dominica is a Caribbean island, Dominican Dominique.
- 41:30Speaker 4: Man cut out.
- 41:30Speaker 2: My dad is half black and his father's from the
- 41:34Speaker 2: Dominique Caribbean.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Yea bronder black.
- 41:39Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.
- 41:39Speaker 1: I don't really know why. Actually you don't want to
- 41:43Speaker 1: claim that's hilarious.
- 41:46Speaker 3: It's okay, it's okay.
- 41:49Speaker 4: Yeah, to meet you brother.
- 41:51Speaker 3: Likewise, brother, it's a pleasure.
- 41:52Speaker 5: To be to make sure you check out a Family
- 41:54Speaker 5: of Fan premiere in January twenty fifth and eight pm
- 41:56Speaker 5: Eastern A lifetime.
- 41:57Speaker 4: While MB looks up his birth certificate.
- 42:01Speaker 1: You look at my pictures so you can see my patients.
- 42:04Speaker 4: You can't find no picture where you don't look a minute.
- 42:06Speaker 4: White jeans currently got giants jerseys, knock it off.
- 42:10Speaker 2: It's the breakfast because you play baseball. No, I actually
- 42:15Speaker 2: played football of a football from Queens village.
- 42:19Speaker 1: A queen village's nothing but Haitians, so that we your.
- 42:22Speaker 3: Cousins dolicans as exactly I'm black.
- 42:29Speaker 1: It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that ass up
- 42:32Speaker 1: in the morning.
- 42:33Speaker 3: The breakfast Club.