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OP HORROR: MOM HILLARY, 33, DIES AS PLASTIC-SURGEON-HUBBY "OPERATES" ON HER · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: An horror. A young mom, Hillary dies as her plastic
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Speaker 2: surgeon hubby operates on her. Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: The wife of a prominent Florida plastic surgeon dies in
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Speaker 2: an operating chair during multiple procedures performed by her husband.
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Speaker 2: What went wrong? What did go wrong? And why is
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Speaker 2: this young mom dead? Now? Is it appropriate to be
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Speaker 2: operating on your wife? I've got so many questions. Forget
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Speaker 2: the impropriety of operating on your wife, if that's even true,
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Speaker 2: she's dead. Are you supposed to be performing multiple procedures
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Speaker 2: all at the same time? What happened in this case?
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Speaker 3: Listen, not a little one police fire abolance, ambulance. We
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Speaker 3: have an unsabled patient. Okay, are you there with the
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Speaker 3: patient now? Yeah? Okay, we do have help on the way.
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Speaker 3: What exactly happened? She was having surgery to the posting
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Speaker 3: Thurdery outfits and he's unstable here think, Okay, she's she's done, honey,
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Speaker 3: the rest right now. Okay, we have we have help coming. Okay,
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Speaker 3: can you tell me what kind of operations she was getting?
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Speaker 3: A Domino IPO that transfer different. I don't know them
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Speaker 3: off the top of my head.
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Speaker 2: Right now, I don't know off the top of my head,
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Speaker 2: what are you supposed to have all of that done
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Speaker 2: at once? Joining me an all star panel including Molly
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Speaker 2: Barrow's investigative reporter Pittsacola News Journal and host podcast Gulf
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Speaker 2: Coast Confidential, which is awesome. But first I want to
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Speaker 2: go to special guests doctor Terry du brow uh star
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Speaker 2: in Botched and seven year stitch on e and the
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Speaker 2: author of Doctor and Missus Guinea Pig. Okay, I'll address
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Speaker 2: that later, but doctor J. Brow, I want to get
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Speaker 2: to your main line of work, and that is plastic surgery.
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Speaker 2: You are renowned. Are you supposed to perform that many?
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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't even know what the assistant
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Speaker 2: was saying, because all I get hurt here is in
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Speaker 2: the background, cardiac arrest, cardiac arrest. That's what got my attention.
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Speaker 2: But she was founding off a lot of procedures. Is
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Speaker 2: the patient's supposed to have all that done at once?
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Speaker 4: So it's extremely common to have all those procedures done
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Speaker 4: at once. You know the list of those procedures probably
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Speaker 4: only takes about three hours. Here's what happened in this case.
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Speaker 4: It has to be clarified, Nancy. This is a procedure
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Speaker 4: done under local anesthesia with the patient awake by the
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Speaker 4: patient's husband. You know, we have this expression in medicine,
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Speaker 4: familiarity breeds in competence and negligence. You need to keep
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Speaker 4: a professional distance between you and your patients. And that's
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Speaker 4: why it's discouraged. Unless it's a specialized procedure that you
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Speaker 4: happen to be the best in the world at, you
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Speaker 4: should not be operating on your relevance. Now in this case,
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Speaker 4: this is a clear cutcase of lytokane overdose. Lightocane overdose
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Speaker 4: is when you exceed the amount of local anesesia you
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Speaker 4: should give the patient and they become toxic. And what
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Speaker 4: happens is you get cardiac toxic se first you go
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Speaker 4: into seizures, then full cardiac arrests. The mistake is twofold here.
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Speaker 4: One this doctor clearly was negligent and gave too much
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Speaker 4: local anesthesia. And two, when he should have made a
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Speaker 4: prompt diagnosis and started early treatment, he didn't any delayed
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Speaker 4: calling nine to one one and for that that's why
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Speaker 4: his wife is no longer alive.
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Speaker 2: Guys, you are hearing from our friend and renowned plastic sergeant,
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Speaker 2: doctor Terry de Brow joining me right now. Now. It's
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Speaker 2: a very special guest. It's Marty Ellington. This is Hillary's father. Marty.
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Speaker 2: I am so sorry. I can't imagine. I have a
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Speaker 2: beautiful daughter just like you, and to me, she's completely perfect.
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Speaker 2: I don't want her to change anything.
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Speaker 4: Why.
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Speaker 2: I mean, when I look at Hillary, she's perfect. Why
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Speaker 2: did she have to have all this plastic surgery?
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Speaker 5: She didn't she was absolutely gorgeous.
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Speaker 2: What got in her mind that she needed plastic surgery?
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Speaker 6: I don't know if she seen other people have it
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Speaker 6: done and she thought that she could have it done also,
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know we What fuels me is every
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Speaker 6: day I learning something new from statements made that he
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Speaker 6: wanted to make his perfect Megum.
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Speaker 2: Fox start write there, mister Ellington. Okay, I do not
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Speaker 2: like interrupting the father of a victim, But did you
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Speaker 2: just hear did you just say? Did I hear correctly
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Speaker 2: that the plastic surgeon husband, doctor Ben Brown wanted his
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Speaker 2: own perfect private Megan Fox, did you just say that?
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Speaker 5: Yes?
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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it's me, but I love my husband just
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Speaker 2: like he is and one of the reasons I married
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Speaker 2: him is he likes me just like I am. In fact,
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Speaker 2: he prefers me without all my fate here and makeup.
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Speaker 2: Can I just say that? Why would? That? Just breaks
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Speaker 2: my heart? Because Hillary beautiful on the inside and out,
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Speaker 2: a mother to three children ages four through eight, devoted mom,
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Speaker 2: and now she's dead, completely avoidable. Like doctor Dubrowt just
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Speaker 2: told us, what do you mean by that? He wanted
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Speaker 2: his own private perfect Megan.
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Speaker 6: Fox, I know, like I said, we hear these stories
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Speaker 6: every day and it just builds more and more.
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Speaker 5: That's that's probably the fuel that keeps me going.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 5: As much as we're hurt. Uh, my wife and I have,
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Speaker 5: our life has forever changed. Oh well, you know we
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Speaker 5: have to fight for her.
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Speaker 6: And we hear, you know, we hear these things about
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Speaker 6: him and what he's doing, and it's.
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Speaker 5: Own and on and on.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 5: That's what fuels us to keep going and fight for her.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at her before and after, and I think
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Speaker 2: whoever told you that was telling the truth because I'm
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Speaker 2: looking at her and she looks like a natural blonde,
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Speaker 2: completely natural beautiful out at the beach with their children.
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Speaker 2: And then when I look at the after she does,
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Speaker 2: she is starting to look like Megan Fox. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't understand this, guys, I'm hearing in my ear.
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Speaker 2: We are just being joined by Brandy Fitzsimmons, a former
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Speaker 2: patient of the husband in question, doctor Ben Brown. Brandy,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. I thank you, thank
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Speaker 2: you when you. I don't know if you can see
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Speaker 2: the before and after, but I gotta tell you, I
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Speaker 2: think she's beautiful before and that after she's dounning. She
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Speaker 2: doesn't look real like I'm not gonna name a name,
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Speaker 2: but when I was a prosecutor, a famous movie star
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Speaker 2: came to shadow me during It's a pleain Arrayment calendar
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Speaker 2: and it lasted several days. And I've seen her on
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Speaker 2: the screen many times, but when I saw her in person,
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Speaker 2: it looked like a grown lady, beautiful, but it looked
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Speaker 2: like somebody had taken the nose off of a seven
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Speaker 2: or eight year old little girl and put it in
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Speaker 2: the middle of her face. Of course, I never said anything,
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Speaker 2: but it didn't look right. I'm just a trial lawyer.
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Speaker 2: I don't really know how to describe this. Maybe doctor
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Speaker 2: du Brow can help me. But Brandy, what was your
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Speaker 2: experience with the doctor. And I want to point out
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Speaker 2: we invited Brown on never heard a word back. Gee,
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Speaker 2: I wonder why, Jackie, wonder why I didn't want to
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Speaker 2: come on answer my questions. But go ahead, Brandy, what happened?
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Speaker 7: I mean, from the get go my first consultation, I
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Speaker 7: didn't really have any red flags. I did only go
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Speaker 7: to him. I attempted to make an appointment at another facility.
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Speaker 7: Long story, I ended up just bailing on that one.
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Speaker 7: So I continued with doctor Brown. He was very straightforward.
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Speaker 7: Showed him a couple of pictures of what I looked
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Speaker 7: like prior to kind of gaining my little stomach pooch,
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Speaker 7: and he kind of gave me this idea that I
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Speaker 7: was going to walk away with this athletic build, look,
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Speaker 7: abs and everything. It wasn't really funny, but I wasn't
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Speaker 7: looking for a comedian. I was looking for a surgeon
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Speaker 7: who seemed like they knew what they were talking about.
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Speaker 8: It.
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Speaker 7: I didn't realize what I was going to get myself into.
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Speaker 7: The first procedure I had went into it was a hospital,
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Speaker 7: Baptist hospital in Pennscola. It was an extended tummy tuck
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Speaker 7: with muscle repair and plan in exchange, he was to
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Speaker 7: do some MICO on my back and my arms and
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Speaker 7: take some of that fat injection and fill in the
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Speaker 7: sea points they call him hit dips. That's all I
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Speaker 7: consented to, That's all I wanted. I have it in
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Speaker 7: writing three separate times, whether it was in text or
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Speaker 7: an email, that I did not want a full I
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Speaker 7: made it very very clear to him that was the
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Speaker 7: one procedure I did not want. I was happy with
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Speaker 7: my backside, and it wasn't until after all this happened
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Speaker 7: with Hillary and I reached out to my attorney and
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Speaker 7: when they pulled metal Core records, that's where they found
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Speaker 7: out he did, in fact give me the full BBL,
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Speaker 7: and every follow up appointment, every time I addressed concerns,
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Speaker 7: it was, oh, you're just swollen. You didn't get that done.
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Speaker 2: It'll go down.
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Speaker 7: It's only because the life though I did on your back,
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Speaker 7: it makes it look like your butt's a little bigger.
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Speaker 7: But yeah, he lied over and over and over and
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Speaker 7: then gave me the one procedure I did not want.
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Speaker 2: You're saying a BBL, I assume you're talking about a
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Speaker 2: Brazilian butt lift.
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Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on to a moment too. Doctor Terry De Brow,
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Speaker 2: star of Botched and seven Year Stitch and author. Have
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Speaker 2: you ever seen the movie with goldiehorn And and Meryl
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Speaker 2: Streep It's called Death Becomes Her. Yes, they're also married
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Speaker 2: to a doctor and he performs all this plastic surgery
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Speaker 2: on them. Long story short, it's just that scared me
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Speaker 2: away from plastic surgery and it's not even real. But
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Speaker 2: did you hear what Brandy Fitzimmons just said? I mean
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Speaker 2: to go into a plastic surgery with the lady Brandy
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Speaker 2: and her come out with a Brazilian butt lift that
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Speaker 2: she did not want?
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Speaker 8: What?
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Speaker 2: Okay? What is a Brazilian butt lift?
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Speaker 4: So a bb And by the way, I just want
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Speaker 4: to make it very clear that my opinions are based
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Speaker 4: on what I've heard in the media, Okay, So I
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Speaker 4: don't have first hand information about exactly what this doctor did.
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Speaker 4: So I just want to state that qualification, okay, because
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Speaker 4: I don't want to think that I'm saying anything particular
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Speaker 4: about the case based on knowledge I have. All Right,
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Speaker 4: A Brazilian button lift is where you take that one
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Speaker 4: part of the body you transfer into the buttock. It's
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Speaker 4: a very specific procedure happens to be the most dangerous
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Speaker 4: proceduring plastic surgery, with the greatest rate of fatality. In fact,
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Speaker 4: one in three thousand patients die from a Brazilian buttock lift,
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Speaker 4: and there's been a momiratorium on doing them to do it.
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Speaker 4: If it's true if a Brazilian was done on a
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Speaker 4: patient without their consent, well, that's battery, Okay, that's obviously
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Speaker 4: a violation of the standard of care, that's medical negligence.
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Speaker 4: But in this case, if I may not to disagree
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Speaker 4: with anyone, I'm not sure this case is really necessarily
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Speaker 4: about an indictment of plastic surgery in general. But the
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Speaker 4: fact that potentially in this case, the usual best practices
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Speaker 4: and the standard of care was not followed. And in
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Speaker 4: my opinion, this is a really big part of why
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Speaker 4: you shouldn't operate on your relatives, you shouldn't take care
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Speaker 4: of your family members, because you lose professional perspective and
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Speaker 4: you're not objective. In this case, I promise you had
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Speaker 4: these procedures been done by a doctor, a different doctor
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Speaker 4: who didn't necessarily know the patient, ninety nine times out
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Speaker 4: of one hundred, ninety nine nine times out of one hundred.
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Speaker 4: This would proceeded safely, you'd have it a live patient.
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Speaker 4: These are very very common procedures, whether you like them
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Speaker 4: or not, I completely understand. Look, I'm a star of
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Speaker 4: a TV show where we fix bad plastic surgery, so
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Speaker 4: I'm the unique plastic surgeon, and then I agree with
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Speaker 4: limiting the amount of plastic surgery people.
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Speaker 2: It's not so much that I don't like them, doctor
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Speaker 2: doctor DeBras, not that I don't like them. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if it makes you feel better about yourself, do it fine.
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Speaker 2: I'd be mad if you didn't. Well, I don't. I'm
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Speaker 2: more fearful of them because my friend, my friend who
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Speaker 2: loved my children, John Rivers, went in. I just had
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Speaker 2: had the children and we talked about them all the
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Speaker 2: time because she's such a loving mother, was such a
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Speaker 2: loving mother to her daughter Melissa. And the next thing
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Speaker 2: you know, she's dead, dead, John Rivers dead. Why she
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Speaker 2: died after some minor minor, a minor fix. It was
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Speaker 2: going to be nothing, and she was not guarded appropriately.
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Speaker 2: They did not call nine one one quickly enough, just
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Speaker 2: like this, And you're saying that this victim, Hillary, who
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Speaker 2: is the daughter of Marty joining us today nine one
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Speaker 2: one was not called in time. Is that the standard
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Speaker 2: of care to which you are referring as being breached.
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Speaker 4: It's a massive violation. If it occurred, I read the
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Speaker 4: details exactly, I just read the news articles. But if
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Speaker 4: it occurred, it's a massive, gross, extreme violations standard of care.
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Speaker 4: It led for sure to the demise of this patient.
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Speaker 4: Joan Rivers, unfortunately, is also a victim of this kind
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Speaker 4: of familiarity breeds in negligence because the doctors were the
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Speaker 4: best doctors in the state, but because it was Joan Rivers,
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Speaker 4: they weren't following best practices. They didn't remain objective. This
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Speaker 4: is another reason why celebrities often have problems, because the
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Speaker 4: doctors lose perspective or they just aren't as objective as
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Speaker 4: they should be. So you have to be very careful.
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Speaker 4: If plastic surgery is as dangerous as any other kind
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Speaker 4: of surgery, and in some cases, like with a BBL
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Speaker 4: Brazilian butt lift, way more dangerous. So if you can
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Speaker 4: avoid plastic surgery avoided at all costs, I encourage you,
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Speaker 4: if you're going to do it, go to board certified
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Speaker 4: physicians with a lot of gray hair or no hair,
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Speaker 4: and think very carefully and read that consent form, because
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Speaker 4: on the last word on that consent form is the
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Speaker 4: word death. And it does have happen, and not as
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Speaker 4: infrequently as doctors might like to admit.
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Speaker 9: Hillary Ellington Brown is in trouble in an operating room
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Speaker 9: for nearly half an hour before plastic surgeon Hubby doctor
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Speaker 9: Ben Brown contacts nine to one one and begins to
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Speaker 9: perform CPR.
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Speaker 2: Why why, that's what I want to know. Let's see
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Speaker 2: what we can learn from the nine one one call.
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Speaker 3: All on stop, I need one person to talk to me.
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Speaker 4: How old is the patient?
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Speaker 2: Thret too?
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Speaker 4: Okay?
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Speaker 8: Is he breathing?
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Speaker 2: Now're recording PPR right now?
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Speaker 4: Was he having a procedure or anything?
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Speaker 2: Yes, she went coming a cockboatic, carothed. Okay, straight back
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Speaker 2: out to Marty Ellington. This is Hillary's dad. What goes
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Speaker 2: through your mind when you're hearing that nine one one call?
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Speaker 2: And I believe that's her husband. He's screaming in the background.
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Speaker 2: That Juck supposed against the fact that, according to witnesses,
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Speaker 2: there was a long delay that shouldn't have happened before
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Speaker 2: they call online one one.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, not know that, I mean, we know for for
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Speaker 10: a fact Uh, kind of like the uh the doctor
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Speaker 10: Uh I mentioned you know there's no crash card in
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Speaker 10: the room.
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Speaker 5: Uh, there's a defibrillator.
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Speaker 6: Uh, there's no life saving you know, they don't have oxygen.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 6: The doctor don't even have a stethoscope, for God's sake,
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Speaker 6: you know, and so you know, no oximeter that they
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Speaker 6: can't check her oxygen level. It's nothing but but like
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Speaker 6: having surgery in my office for example. And you know,
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Speaker 6: you know if he had any of those things, you know,
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Speaker 6: he's he's screaming for uh, for his stethoscope. He's screaming for,
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Speaker 6: you know, find me oxygen. The medical assistant had only
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Speaker 6: been on staff for four days. She knows nothing about
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Speaker 6: where the oxygen is.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you're telling me something I didn't know, mister Allington.
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Speaker 2: Guys with me as hillary'sday, Marty Ellington, I knew that
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Speaker 2: according to witnesses and is our expert joining us today.
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Speaker 2: I'm anow plastic surgeon. Doctor Terry Debrew said, we're going
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Speaker 2: based on what we've been told, and this isn't what
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Speaker 2: the neighbors said to the neighbor over the fence. And
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Speaker 2: then they talked about it at the PTA meeting. That's
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Speaker 2: what witnesses on the scene said that he waited. He
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Speaker 2: waited to call nine to one one, but I'm hearing
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Speaker 2: from you that he didn't even have a stethoscope. I
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Speaker 2: knew he didn't have a defibrillator, which you've got to have,
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Speaker 2: but it didn't have oxygen lined up.
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Speaker 6: No oxygen and you could even hear in then now
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Speaker 6: one call, he's screaming, somebody find my stethoscope.
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Speaker 2: Okay, joining us and I started to go to her earlier,
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Speaker 2: and I want to go right now to Molly Barrow's
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Speaker 2: investigative reporter Pittscacola News Journal and host of The Gulf
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Speaker 2: Coast Confidential, Molly, thank you for being with us. What
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Speaker 2: do you know happened?
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Speaker 11: Well?
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Speaker 12: According to numerous reports, including the Santoris Sheriff's Office, the
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Speaker 12: Reference to Medical Staminer's Office report, as well as the
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Speaker 12: Florida Department of Health, we're talking about multiple agencies that
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Speaker 12: have been looking into this man for seven months since
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Speaker 12: Hillary died in November. So what we do know fort
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Speaker 12: In Center, as the Sheriff's office, is that, just like
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Speaker 12: what you've been hearing, he.
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Speaker 11: Failed to call on one line. He didn't have live
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Speaker 11: of saving.
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Speaker 12: Equipment on hand, and as a result of that and
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Speaker 12: not following basic standard of care, like the doctor interview said,
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Speaker 12: that's exactly what the Florida Department of Help is saying.
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Speaker 12: He didn't follow basic standard of care and as a result,
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Speaker 12: Hillary Brown coded and died. She had a cardiac arrest
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Speaker 12: right there that kept her life support for a bound
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Speaker 12: a week due to light of can toxicity, and she
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Speaker 12: was showing signs of light of King toxicity during the
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Speaker 12: procedure of Nancy. She was complaining she couldn't see. She
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Speaker 12: was complaining she had saw orange. She was starting to twitch.
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Speaker 12: She didn't got up and suture her. She was futured herself.
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Speaker 11: At one point she got up and walked.
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Speaker 1: Around crime Stories with Nancy.
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Speaker 2: Grace Molly berra is joining me from Pitts Colony's journal.
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Speaker 2: She sutured herself.
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Speaker 11: Yes, ma'am, She's sutured herself.
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Speaker 12: That's according to the Florida Department of Health's investigation.
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Speaker 11: Which by the way, came out after her death. So
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Speaker 11: they started investigating when.
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Speaker 12: Numerous other former patients had ben Brown, like Brandy herself,
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Speaker 12: came forward and were willing to share their stories.
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Speaker 11: They had been complaining for a long time.
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Speaker 12: There's currently litigation against Ben Brown for basically box surgeries
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Speaker 12: and doing what he wants what he wants. She's not
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Speaker 12: even the only one, Brandy who received an unconsented BBL.
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Speaker 12: I talked to another woman, Jane Hawkins. She had the
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Speaker 12: same thing. There's improper wound care. There are so many
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Speaker 12: consistencies fancy in this story between the victims. So when
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Speaker 12: we came forward, I have a Excel sheet with almost
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Speaker 12: three dozen people who have come forward showing me pictures.
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Speaker 12: My inbox looks like it's full of war wound. So
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Speaker 12: Hillary's death did bring to light and give a voice
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Speaker 12: to a lot of people who just simply hadn't been
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Speaker 12: heard before.
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Speaker 11: So going back to her walking around.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's basically what the Department help was saying as
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Speaker 12: well as it came out in the Center and the
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Speaker 12: Shiff's Office report.
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Speaker 11: So they did things in you know.
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Speaker 12: According to these reports, sort of fast and loose with
21:17
Speaker 12: these medical rules and laws. She took her own tumisive solution,
21:21
Speaker 12: which is essentially anstiegious.
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Speaker 11: She mixed it herself. They had two IV fags, I
21:25
Speaker 11: believe anyway, she ran out, he ran out of one.
21:28
Speaker 12: But after the tummy touch procedure, the fat removal of
21:32
Speaker 12: she's still forgeous. I don't even know where they found
21:34
Speaker 12: fat on her body, but anyway, it came out of
21:37
Speaker 12: her stommach. She got up, walked around at some point,
21:40
Speaker 12: and then went back.
21:41
Speaker 11: Down and then suture herself. And I'm unclear she sutured that.
21:45
Speaker 12: Cut on her tummy or she's suture of her arms,
21:47
Speaker 12: but she also procedures enter her arms. She had procedures
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Speaker 12: under her face, and it was during those procedures that
21:53
Speaker 12: at one point she started to twitch, she started to
21:55
Speaker 12: see orange. These are all signs of lat case toxicity
21:58
Speaker 12: of boarding to the health department report.
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Speaker 11: And he didn't stop. Instead, he asked for more basically
22:04
Speaker 11: ant seesion.
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Speaker 12: Medicine when he ran out of that IV bag.
22:06
Speaker 11: So there's a lot to a Nancy.
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Speaker 12: I don't need to run on and on and on,
22:09
Speaker 12: but it is just such a bizarre and sad case for.
22:12
Speaker 11: So many people.
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Speaker 2: Molly Barrows, you are not running on and on, although
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Speaker 2: I will state that what you told me makes me
22:24
Speaker 2: feel sick. To Marty Ellington, this is Hillary's father. Your
22:30
Speaker 2: girl is dead and her three children between four and
22:38
Speaker 2: eight years old. They're going to grow up without her
22:42
Speaker 2: and for what And Molly Barrows isn't just again stating
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Speaker 2: what the neighbor told the neighbor over the fence and
22:50
Speaker 2: then they burned it out at the PTA meeting. This
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Speaker 2: is according to the Sheriff's Department and other filings people
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Speaker 2: that are now coming forward, and it all ends up
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Speaker 2: with Hillary dead.
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Speaker 6: There has been for what we understand, there has been
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Speaker 6: numerous complaints to the Department of Health.
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Speaker 5: I don't know where these records go. People just own
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Speaker 5: an own say it's just a dead end.
23:17
Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 6: We've got people that's supposed to supervise these doctors and
23:22
Speaker 6: they feel like their voice is not being heard. You know,
23:26
Speaker 6: to jump ahead a bit, you know, we found a
23:29
Speaker 6: little bit of relief when they arrest the guy and
23:32
Speaker 6: he gets a fifty thousand dollars bill. I mean, he
23:36
Speaker 6: didn't steal a snicker bar from seven to eleven. We're
23:39
Speaker 6: talking about murder. Fifty thousand dollars and the judge's response
23:44
Speaker 6: was because of his status in the community. We see
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Speaker 6: what kind of status of the community this guy is.
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Speaker 5: You know, we feel one hundred percent violated.
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Speaker 6: If the Department of Health would have paid attention to
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Speaker 6: all these dozens and dozens of complaints.
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Speaker 5: They had investigated this.
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Speaker 6: Guy far before. There's no crash car or Will's lapsay equipment.
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Speaker 9: Plastic surgeon doctor Ben Brown arrested in the Bunched cosmetic
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Speaker 9: surgery death of his wife. As the investigation continues, patients
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Speaker 9: take to social media to voice complaints of infections, disfiguration, bunched, bbl's.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Botched, joining me, Doctor Terry de Brow and
24:29
Speaker 2: Robert Crispin, don't go away, because I need to talk
24:32
Speaker 2: to you about how to build this case. Doctor de
24:35
Speaker 2: Brow is a star of Botched and of Seven Year Stitch.
24:39
Speaker 2: He's also an author and a renowned plastic surgeon. Did
24:43
Speaker 2: you hear what Molly Barrows just reported? Did you hear that?
24:48
Speaker 2: I didn't want to throw her off by interrupting her
24:50
Speaker 2: and asking questions. But doctor de Brow, I'm just a
24:53
Speaker 2: trial lawyer, Okay. I know how to try a murder case.
24:56
Speaker 2: But a lot of the things she was saying takes
24:58
Speaker 2: a doctor to explain what in that? Hey, I've never
25:03
Speaker 2: heard of a patient suturing or sewing up herself. And
25:09
Speaker 2: she was mixing her own drugs and administered her own drugs.
25:14
Speaker 2: Before then, he administered drugs including Lyda kain. What have
25:18
Speaker 2: you ever heard anything like it?
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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Nancy, I have. I'm a certified expert for the
25:24
Speaker 4: California Medical Board, so I see and review all of
25:28
Speaker 4: these types of cases, and this, unfortunately is more common
25:31
Speaker 4: than you may be awhere, particularly when the patient is
25:35
Speaker 4: married to a plastic surgeon or works in a plastic
25:38
Speaker 4: surgeon's office. When you look at the vibe that you
25:41
Speaker 4: get in the narrative from the video you're showing the pictures,
25:45
Speaker 4: there was sort of a generalized lack of seriousness in
25:48
Speaker 4: that practice you see on her white codin. I'm not
25:51
Speaker 4: victim shamed. I feel very sorry for the patient. I
25:54
Speaker 4: feel sorry for the doctor. I feel sorry for the father,
25:58
Speaker 4: of course, but doctor Hillary's ass that's a joke on
26:03
Speaker 4: ass in assistance. But there's sort of a generalized lack
26:07
Speaker 4: of seriousness in this practice, and she was having a
26:11
Speaker 4: very significant medical proceder done not in an operating room,
26:15
Speaker 4: not even in a local procedure room, but in a
26:18
Speaker 4: med spaw. It appears where there's zero emergency equipment and
26:23
Speaker 4: zero ability to resuscitate the patient, making it even more
26:27
Speaker 4: important that you call for nine to one one help
26:30
Speaker 4: right away. But at the end of the day, this
26:34
Speaker 4: is more common than people realize. I currently have about
26:38
Speaker 4: three or four cases right now I'm reviewing for the
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Speaker 4: Medical Board where a doctor had a patient who was
26:43
Speaker 4: doing very poorly and one or two of them waited
26:47
Speaker 4: over three hours before calling rescue before calling nine to
26:52
Speaker 4: one one. And those doctors, one here in California, one
26:55
Speaker 4: in Arizona, have also been indicted and arrested for murder
26:59
Speaker 4: for the same reason, for such wanton disregard for normal
27:03
Speaker 4: medical practices, because that's what it's all about. You're not
27:06
Speaker 4: going to show malicious intent. I'm not a lawyer, but
27:09
Speaker 4: I do a lot of medical legal work. But this
27:11
Speaker 4: is so reckless and so beyond the pale, that it's
27:16
Speaker 4: like an involuntary manslaughter.
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Speaker 2: You know, doctor G.
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Speaker 3: Brow.
27:20
Speaker 2: And I'm going to go to Robert Crispin on this,
27:22
Speaker 2: following up on what Debrow said. Robert Crispin, famous private investigator,
27:28
Speaker 2: former federal Task Force for the US Department of Justice
27:33
Speaker 2: and work extensively there in Florida with a DEA Miami
27:38
Speaker 2: Field Division now owns Crispin Special Investigations. Robert we heard
27:45
Speaker 2: earlier that well, the dad told us he didn't even
27:49
Speaker 2: have a stethoscope. Then a reporter says that her vision
27:55
Speaker 2: was blurring, that she was seeing orange, that her legs
28:00
Speaker 2: were twitching, There was no defibrillator, no oxygen on hand.
28:05
Speaker 2: Now we find out about more questionable procedures. A lot
28:11
Speaker 2: of times, when you get to a crime scene, you
28:13
Speaker 2: can find the front door wide open, the windows open,
28:16
Speaker 2: the back door open, everybody's gone. Nobody wants to testify
28:21
Speaker 2: to what happened. Right. How many times have you had
28:24
Speaker 2: to sneak around to a back door like me as
28:27
Speaker 2: a prosecutor and go trying to bay people to tell
28:31
Speaker 2: me what they saw. How do you put humpty dumpty
28:36
Speaker 2: back together again? Do you really think these assistants and
28:39
Speaker 2: nurses are going to testify against the doctor?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I do.
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Speaker 8: As a matter of fact, that nine to one one
28:47
Speaker 8: call shows the complete chaos that was going on inside
28:51
Speaker 8: that office at that time. Bad decision after bad decision
28:54
Speaker 8: after bad decision, all coming together to be gross negligence.
28:59
Speaker 8: Each of these interviews, if I was the investigator on
29:03
Speaker 8: this particular case, each one of my interviews geared towards
29:06
Speaker 8: every single.
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Speaker 11: Employee in there.
29:09
Speaker 8: I want to know how this happened before. Why doesn't
29:12
Speaker 8: he have this? Each one of these things are going
29:15
Speaker 8: to build up my negligence case against the doctor. Like
29:20
Speaker 8: the doctor says that spoke a couple of minutes ago.
29:23
Speaker 8: You don't work on your family. You just don't work
29:26
Speaker 8: on relatives. And I tell you that because on a
29:29
Speaker 8: flight coming back at thirty eight thousand feet, I had
29:31
Speaker 8: a relative had an incident in flight and I completely
29:36
Speaker 8: vapor locked. And I deal with emergency situations all the time,
29:40
Speaker 8: and I for a minute lost it, and I brought
29:44
Speaker 8: it back together. We did what we need to do.
29:46
Speaker 8: We got the plane down and my relative lived. So
29:50
Speaker 8: you know, to put this case together, it's putting itself together.
29:53
Speaker 8: That Department of Health report is going to be a
29:57
Speaker 8: big deal in the prosecution. Those people in that room
30:00
Speaker 8: are going to be key witnesses to what happened. Listen,
30:04
Speaker 8: you can either be part of the problem or you
30:06
Speaker 8: can be part of the solution. And I guarantee you
30:08
Speaker 8: each one of those assistants have lawyered up and they've
30:11
Speaker 8: gotten to the port where the lawyer has come forward
30:13
Speaker 8: and go, Mike.
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Speaker 5: Client will talk to you. What do you want to talk,
30:17
Speaker 5: the assistant will talk to you.
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Speaker 8: What do you want to know in lure? Are charging
30:21
Speaker 8: my assistant because don't forget, he didn't do this all
30:24
Speaker 8: on himself. These nurses, these certified nurses, these licensed nurses,
30:30
Speaker 8: they have.
30:31
Speaker 4: A duty to react as well.
30:32
Speaker 5: They have a duty to report as well.
30:35
Speaker 8: So this case is going to systematically go through court
30:39
Speaker 8: and conviction is easily taken in this particular case, easily.
30:51
Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Back to Brandy Fitzsimmons, a former patient of doctor Brown,
31:00
Speaker 2: and let me assure you we invited him on. He
31:04
Speaker 2: did not want to answer your questions, Brandy or mine
31:09
Speaker 2: when you confronted him about performing a Brazilian butt lift
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Speaker 2: on you, which he specifically did not want. What did
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Speaker 2: he say that.
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Speaker 7: We didn't I didn't have one. It was over and over.
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Speaker 7: My husband was at i think every apployment except one,
31:25
Speaker 7: and every time we would question it, assure me that
31:29
Speaker 7: I did not have one, that it was just swelling swelling,
31:32
Speaker 7: and that I've gained weight.
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Speaker 2: Did you or did you not? How have you confirmed
31:35
Speaker 2: that you actually had a Brazilian butt lift?
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Speaker 7: It's in my medical records. When they pulled the medical
31:42
Speaker 7: records and it shows the eleven hundred milli leaders. I
31:45
Speaker 7: think that's the right into.
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Speaker 2: Each Okay, hold on, just a moment to doctor Terry
31:51
Speaker 2: de Brow, what is she saying? Explain it to me.
31:54
Speaker 4: So what she's saying is that this doctor took fat
31:57
Speaker 4: from one part of the body, was supposed to put
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Speaker 4: it in it sounds like the hip tips on the sides,
32:04
Speaker 4: and ended up putting it right into the butticck instead,
32:06
Speaker 4: in a very large volume in the buttock. If what
32:09
Speaker 4: you say is true, eleven hundred ccs, so that is
32:12
Speaker 4: a Brazilian butt lift. If it was not consented for,
32:16
Speaker 4: it was unauthorized, it is medical battery. It's one of
32:20
Speaker 4: the worst things you can do. It's called a never
32:23
Speaker 4: event in plastic surgery. I think it's important to understand
32:28
Speaker 4: obviously the practices of this doctor were not where you'd
32:32
Speaker 4: want them to be. There was sort of a lack
32:34
Speaker 4: of seriousness.
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Speaker 2: Doctor du Brown. Of course, I'm just a JD. You're
32:39
Speaker 2: the MD. But you keep saying his practices were not
32:44
Speaker 2: what you want them to be. She's dead and my world,
32:50
Speaker 2: that's murder. Now. Earlier you said something about no malicious intent.
32:56
Speaker 2: You don't have to have malicious intent and other words,
33:00
Speaker 2: I'll walk into the studio where you are right now,
33:02
Speaker 2: and I go, I'm going to kill this guy. I've
33:04
Speaker 2: had it with him, and I take a gun out
33:06
Speaker 2: and I say, I'm shooting you dead. That is explicit
33:11
Speaker 2: evidence that I have nefarious intent known under the law
33:15
Speaker 2: as mensrea, the intent to perform the act and I
33:19
Speaker 2: pull the trigger. You don't need that under the law
33:23
Speaker 2: to perform to prove a murder. Number one, it could
33:27
Speaker 2: actually be a murder one under extreme abandoned and malignant heart.
33:34
Speaker 2: For instance, I take my car, my minivan, and I
33:37
Speaker 2: drive it through an outdoor festival a ninety mph and
33:41
Speaker 2: I plow down five people and kill them. No, I
33:44
Speaker 2: didn't say I'm going to kill ABC D and E.
33:47
Speaker 2: But I did such an abandoned and malignant act with
33:53
Speaker 2: no care for human life that it equals murder under
33:58
Speaker 2: the law. Is a depraved heart. Or I could go
34:03
Speaker 2: with felony murder. He's commanding a felony and somebody dies
34:09
Speaker 2: during that felony, whether he intended it or not. There's
34:13
Speaker 2: just so many ways to go with a criminal charge here.
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Speaker 4: No, I don't disagree and I'm certainly not going to
34:19
Speaker 4: argue the law with someone who's an expert like you.
34:22
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, when it's done,
34:24
Speaker 4: when there is sort of a death in the practice
34:28
Speaker 4: of medicine, okay, typically the doctor is trying to do
34:32
Speaker 4: something positive rather than something negative. But in this case,
34:36
Speaker 4: when you add up all of the wanton disregard for
34:39
Speaker 4: normal medical practices, the level of recklessness, I agree with you,
34:44
Speaker 4: could rise to a very high level of sort of
34:48
Speaker 4: a murder charge. But this case, in many ways, the
34:52
Speaker 4: sum total of the factors involved in this case rise
34:55
Speaker 4: to the level of severe incompetence. He knew or should
35:00
Speaker 4: known that these things added together would have led potentially
35:04
Speaker 4: to a mortality like it did. So it's a very
35:08
Speaker 4: high level of involuntary matslaughter.
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Speaker 9: I would think the wife of a prominent Florida plastic
35:14
Speaker 9: surgeon dies in an operating chair during multiple procedures performed
35:20
Speaker 9: by her husband, what went wrong?
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Speaker 2: While the doctor would not come on to speak with us,
35:25
Speaker 2: a crisis management public relations team did issue a statement
35:29
Speaker 2: saying Brown denies all accusations of wrong doing. Okay, stethoscope,
35:38
Speaker 2: no oxygen, no defibrillator. You know what to Marty Ellington,
35:44
Speaker 2: diss is Hillary's dad. The other day, my children went
35:49
Speaker 2: on a college tour with their school, and I went
35:53
Speaker 2: there over their objections. Of course, when they left on
35:57
Speaker 2: the bus, I went right up to the bus driver
35:59
Speaker 2: as started a conversation and went I had to smell
36:03
Speaker 2: his breath to make sure he hadn't been drinking before
36:05
Speaker 2: my children getting that bus and drive away. He smelled fine.
36:09
Speaker 2: That said, this guy was no more prepared to do surgery.
36:14
Speaker 2: If it's true, he didn't have his stethoscope, oxygen or defibrillator.
36:20
Speaker 2: And if it's true they delayed calling nine one one,
36:25
Speaker 2: it makes me wonder, mister Ellington, did they not want
36:28
Speaker 2: authorities to find out about any wrongdoings such as her
36:32
Speaker 2: administering her own drugs and suturing stitching up her own self.
36:37
Speaker 2: That's not right. Why delay?
36:40
Speaker 1: Why the delay?
36:41
Speaker 2: Her life could have been saved. When you are hearing
36:44
Speaker 2: all of this, Marty, what is going through your mind?
36:48
Speaker 2: How are her children without their mommy?
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Speaker 5: Well, we try to shelter from a lot of it.
36:53
Speaker 5: We had to break the news to them. It's kind
36:58
Speaker 5: of hard.
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Speaker 6: We told him that mommy was sick and it didn't
37:03
Speaker 6: look good. And this was just before she passed away.
37:06
Speaker 6: Because we knew that uh indelibly what was going to
37:09
Speaker 6: happen uh from the media. Uh, you know, we we
37:13
Speaker 6: kind of keep it away. And I'm sure that that
37:16
Speaker 6: as as smart as they are, our friend Google is
37:19
Speaker 6: gonna uh They're going to search one day and the
37:22
Speaker 6: truth is going to come out that we have an
37:24
Speaker 6: emergency meeting, I guess. But for a for an eight
37:29
Speaker 6: year old, more than anything to have to compartmentalize, you know,
37:33
Speaker 6: the loss of her mother, and she's not getting information.
37:38
Speaker 5: Uh she's not asking. You know that breaks your heart.
37:43
Speaker 7: You know when you.
37:45
Speaker 5: When you talk about.
37:46
Speaker 6: His his care and we talked about nurses. Uh, none
37:51
Speaker 6: of the people on his staff were nurses. Nobody was
37:55
Speaker 6: was registered care. The most skilled person in the house
37:58
Speaker 6: other than the doctor was a medical assistant.
38:02
Speaker 5: On her fourth day.
38:03
Speaker 6: Uh, there was no no one there that could minister
38:08
Speaker 6: medical care. I mean, you know in Nancy, this this
38:12
Speaker 6: this goes on and on. Uh Uh from from the
38:16
Speaker 6: care and negligent they you know, they had a volt relationship.
38:22
Speaker 5: Uh. So you know quickly when I called Molly, it
38:26
Speaker 5: was an eye.
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Speaker 6: Opener that the second day we were in the hospital,
38:30
Speaker 6: and he tells, he says to me that he's going
38:33
Speaker 6: to close his practice. He's going to file bankruptcy. He's
38:38
Speaker 6: going to file for long term disability and sell everything
38:41
Speaker 6: he's got and buy a new vehicle before.
38:44
Speaker 5: His credit tanks.
38:46
Speaker 6: You know, how do you have the wherewithal when you
38:49
Speaker 6: know we're we're faithful people.
38:50
Speaker 5: We're praying every day that she's going to pull through.
38:54
Speaker 5: And he's already laid out.
38:56
Speaker 6: A sequence of events that that he's going to scape
39:00
Speaker 6: free from this.
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Speaker 2: You know.
39:03
Speaker 5: Uh so this y'ad.
39:07
Speaker 6: I didn't want to go down a rabbit hole, but
39:09
Speaker 6: quickly I called Molly and I said, you know, there
39:11
Speaker 6: could be more.
39:12
Speaker 5: To this thing than just oops, I messed up.
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Speaker 2: Guys, if you agree with me that there was a huge,
39:19
Speaker 2: huge dereliction of duty by the Department of Health, you
39:24
Speaker 2: know who you can call. Okay, you got to get
39:26
Speaker 2: them away from a microphone for five minutes. But the
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Speaker 2: governor of Florida, DeSantis eight five zero seven one seven
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Speaker 2: nine three three seven, let's see what he'll do. Eight
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Speaker 2: five zero seven one seven nine three three seven. The
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Speaker 2: age there Ashley Moody eight six six nine six six
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Speaker 2: seven two two six let your voice be heard. Stand
39:56
Speaker 2: up for Hillary. She can't speak for herself. Her children
40:01
Speaker 2: are babies, they cannot speak for her. We wait as
40:07
Speaker 2: justice unfolds. And let me remind everyone that, as of
40:12
Speaker 2: right now, doctor Ben Brown has not been accused of
40:17
Speaker 2: any crime such as homicide. He's not a POI person
40:21
Speaker 2: of interest in a homicide. Thank you for being with us,
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Speaker 2: b Is E. Grace signing off, Goodbye friend,