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- 0:02Speaker 1: We cut the cost of radio listening. By hell, it
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- 0:08Speaker 1: one million dollars. First thing today by Joe Thomas on
- 0:15Speaker 1: the Dunk Media Network.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Your word said steal.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Men have a day at least for work, when the
- 0:22Speaker 3: sun comes up, drops.
- 0:24Speaker 2: A kid to school on the way.
- 0:27Speaker 4: Joe has everything, agenda all the JASUS seven needs no wonder.
- 0:32Speaker 5: Joe's as smiled, he only is.
- 0:39Speaker 6: Joe.
- 0:39Speaker 7: Bless you for letting me be of service to you.
- 0:43Speaker 8: I want to be Joe.
- 0:45Speaker 7: You know how we roll here. I will tell you
- 0:47Speaker 7: what went on last night. I will give you my
- 0:50Speaker 7: analysis of it, because I mean, that's what you tune
- 0:52Speaker 7: in for to a degree. But I also want to
- 0:55Speaker 7: hear how it's me who I have been that guy
- 0:59Speaker 7: for as long as I can remember that. It is
- 1:01Speaker 7: the more people I can hang out with, the better
- 1:04Speaker 7: I feel, the more fun I have. So please, by
- 1:07Speaker 7: all means, however you want to do it, we have
- 1:09Speaker 7: a phone number multitasker at four three four eight eight
- 1:13Speaker 7: two four two one seven. You can call in the
- 1:16Speaker 7: traditional fashion, the way we've been doing it since request shows.
- 1:20Speaker 7: And hey, it's a little man of the fifties and no,
- 1:26Speaker 7: I don't have any ice pops in the fridge melting
- 1:30Speaker 7: for you to share. But that being said, you can
- 1:33Speaker 7: also text message that number as well. Eddie writes in, Hey,
- 1:38Speaker 7: my wife's going to visit family in Italy, so I'm
- 1:40Speaker 7: going to be home alone too. There you go, and
- 1:43Speaker 7: that's Eddie was like patient zero with COVID. He came
- 1:47Speaker 7: back and like the summer of twenty nineteen with COVID.
- 1:51Speaker 7: So this was as it China's economy was collapsing. We'll
- 1:56Speaker 7: get further into that story for you coming up in
- 1:59Speaker 7: just a little here. On first thing today, you can
- 2:03Speaker 7: also email how the news of the day is impacting
- 2:06Speaker 7: you to JT in the Morning Radio. At gmail dot com.
- 2:11Speaker 7: We have anyone in there. Well that's selling me this,
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- 2:23Speaker 7: devices aren't tracking you. Funny. I search for a computer
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- 2:36Speaker 7: sounds like we're going to be calling him later on today.
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- 2:44Speaker 7: the Sophie Cunningham finger, you will you will play the
- 2:48Speaker 7: introduction so that we can tell everyone what went on
- 2:51Speaker 7: last night. Okay, you're sure you don't look you look
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- 13:17Speaker 7: Today, visiting with the host of the Good for America podcast.
- 13:26Speaker 7: As a former chairman of the House Freedom concuss former
- 13:31Speaker 7: Congressman Bob Good and with a lot of financial work
- 13:37Speaker 7: in his background as well, he says, this week's podcast
- 13:40Speaker 7: is going to be about the forty trillion dollar threshold
- 13:44Speaker 7: we just crossed in debt. So, Bob, what about all
- 13:49Speaker 7: this behavior that seems to belie this idea that Democrats
- 13:53Speaker 7: have this huge opportunity are just going to run away
- 13:57Speaker 7: with the midterms. Their behavior ever since the beginning of
- 14:00Speaker 7: the redistricting and a lot of the shenanigans that are
- 14:03Speaker 7: still going on, it doesn't look like they're thinking internally
- 14:07Speaker 7: that they're going to run away with this thing. What
- 14:09Speaker 7: are you hearing?
- 14:11Speaker 18: I think in the democrats favor will be propensity for
- 14:14Speaker 18: higher Democrat turnout because they're out of power, and they're motivated,
- 14:17Speaker 18: and they don't like President Trump and President Trump's favorability
- 14:20Speaker 18: and ratings are struggling and in tradition and history in
- 14:24Speaker 18: the midterm elections, especially whether the lame duck president in
- 14:27Speaker 18: the final two years of his last term. However, the
- 14:32Speaker 18: redistricting efforts led by President Trump where the states did redistricting,
- 14:37Speaker 18: help Republicans gain a net of five or six seats
- 14:40Speaker 18: at least the way that the districts lean Republicans have
- 14:43Speaker 18: a majority are assuming an advantage in money, which is
- 14:45Speaker 18: very rare. To your point, you said that earlier, the
- 14:48Speaker 18: Republican Party has about one hundred million dollars more in
- 14:51Speaker 18: the RNC versus the DNC. President Trump has hundreds of
- 14:55Speaker 18: millions and more dollars more, about four hundred million dollars
- 14:58Speaker 18: in his campaign warchess. How much will he use that
- 15:01Speaker 18: in the midterms, And so the Republicans will have a
- 15:03Speaker 18: financial advantage. In addition, Democrat policies are so unpopular and
- 15:08Speaker 18: they've nominated so many extreme, hard left radical candidates from
- 15:12Speaker 18: the Democrat Socialists of America and so forth, that Republicans
- 15:16Speaker 18: I think they've got to fight chance. I think the
- 15:18Speaker 18: Republicans will barely keep the Senate, and I think the
- 15:21Speaker 18: House is a toss up to go either way. I
- 15:24Speaker 18: think it go a long way if they were to
- 15:25Speaker 18: cut spending and put some things in place to reduce
- 15:28Speaker 18: the debt and the deficit between now and what I think.
- 15:33Speaker 18: We're seventy four days from election day.
- 15:35Speaker 7: What is it? It's five billion in every month and
- 15:39Speaker 7: seven billion out every month, Bob, is is that how
- 15:42Speaker 7: they managed to wind up this foreign debt?
- 15:46Speaker 18: It's seven trillion annually out, five trillion annually in and
- 15:50Speaker 18: about two hundred billion a month deficit. But July was
- 15:54Speaker 18: one of the highest, if not the highest deficits on record,
- 15:57Speaker 18: with over four hundred billion dollars in deficit in the
- 16:00Speaker 18: month of July. And it only took five months to
- 16:04Speaker 18: go from thirty nine trillion to forty trillion. I suspect
- 16:07Speaker 18: it'll take four months to hit forty one trillion. They've
- 16:11Speaker 18: already got to raise the debt limit again. They did
- 16:13Speaker 18: by five trillion dollars in the Big Bill last summer.
- 16:17Speaker 18: No willingness on part of Republicans who control all of the
- 16:21Speaker 18: government to address the debt and spending. We need to
- 16:22Speaker 18: call a spade a spade, and that is the truth.
- 16:24Speaker 18: And the American people are suffering as a result, that's
- 16:26Speaker 18: why interest rates are actually going up and not down.
- 16:30Speaker 7: And a lot of folks who talk about inflation say
- 16:32Speaker 7: that's what you have to do to control inflation, and
- 16:35Speaker 7: nobody likes to say that politically. Bob, is there enough
- 16:38Speaker 7: spending cuts to cut a trillion out of that two
- 16:41Speaker 7: trillion dollar deficit annually?
- 16:45Speaker 18: I think if Republicans had courage and were principled, they
- 16:48Speaker 18: could cut a trillion dollars annually out of the discretionary budget,
- 16:53Speaker 18: which is about two trillion dollars. About half of that
- 16:55Speaker 18: could be cut in my view. Then they've got to
- 16:58Speaker 18: address the mandatory that the explosion of soci scurity, Medicare
- 17:01Speaker 18: and Medicaid, because it's unsustainable and you've got to reform
- 17:05Speaker 18: it to preserve and protective for those who truly need it.
- 17:07Speaker 7: Good for America. Dot org is where you find the
- 17:10Speaker 7: podcast and on all the you know, cool kids distributors.
- 17:13Speaker 7: I'm sure Spotify and all that for you, Bob. Have
- 17:16Speaker 7: a wonderful weekend, sir, and we will talk to you
- 17:18Speaker 7: next Friday.
- 17:19Speaker 18: He was, well, Joe, thank you, my friend.
- 17:21Speaker 7: Four three four eighty eight two four two one seven
- 17:25Speaker 7: this one. Where's the question that came in uh Joel asked,
- 17:30Speaker 7: did Bob good ever run for governor? He only ran
- 17:33Speaker 7: for Congress. Oh no, he was a He was a
- 17:36Speaker 7: city councilor in Lynchburg before he ran for Congress. And
- 17:44Speaker 7: he ran for Congress and caused you know, I think
- 17:47Speaker 7: one of the first cases of Trump derangement syndrome amongst Republicans.
- 17:53Speaker 7: So Bob challenged a guy, a fellow named Denver Riggleman
- 17:58Speaker 7: who used to see on TV all the time. I
- 18:00Speaker 7: don't know what happened to him, burned bridges, I don't know.
- 18:03Speaker 7: But Denver was the Republican representing Central Virginia, and then
- 18:10Speaker 7: Bob challenged him in a primary one convention, and you know,
- 18:16Speaker 7: still to this day, and I know he won the
- 18:18Speaker 7: convention and he's a friend, but I don't like conventions
- 18:23Speaker 7: as ways of choosing your candidate. I kind of like,
- 18:28Speaker 7: if we're going to have conventions, I want there to
- 18:30Speaker 7: be voting first, then a convention. So if you if
- 18:36Speaker 7: you hold a convention, it's at the end of some
- 18:38Speaker 7: voting so that you have something to work off of.
- 18:41Speaker 7: So the way the way the two political parties do
- 18:44Speaker 7: it is all the states vote in their primaries and
- 18:48Speaker 7: then they go to a convention just in case there
- 18:50Speaker 7: aren't enough delegates and I you know, set aside, like
- 18:54Speaker 7: when Hillary and Barack Obama didn't go to a lot
- 18:58Speaker 7: of the primaries. There. Good morning here on the here
- 19:01Speaker 7: with Joe. First thing this morning. Who's this.
- 19:05Speaker 9: Clark?
- 19:05Speaker 7: Morning Clark? How are you doing, sir? Well, I'll tell
- 19:08Speaker 7: you what.
- 19:09Speaker 19: I survived the category five thunderstorm we had last night.
- 19:14Speaker 7: Power outages down there in North Alabama or what.
- 19:19Speaker 9: You know.
- 19:20Speaker 19: It never stayed out, but it kept going out and
- 19:23Speaker 19: oh my gosh, flashing lights in the house and it
- 19:26Speaker 19: was impressive.
- 19:28Speaker 7: You know, tornadoes in the area. I hadn't seen any.
- 19:30Speaker 7: I know that from all.
- 19:32Speaker 19: Straight line winds, a lot of trees down roads, you know,
- 19:38Speaker 19: past your fences.
- 19:40Speaker 7: I know you have friends here in Central Virginia. If
- 19:42Speaker 7: you want to make Central Virginian's twitch, say the word
- 19:46Speaker 7: d' racho to them, and I'm sure most people are like,
- 19:49Speaker 7: is that one of the sandwiches they sell at Taco Bell. Yes,
- 19:52Speaker 7: come get a mountain dew in a d racho. But
- 19:56Speaker 7: that's a that's a straight line storm that as I
- 19:59Speaker 7: understand that from meteorologists when it comes across in the
- 20:03Speaker 7: straight line. The wind is swirling, you know, up and
- 20:08Speaker 7: down or instead of side to side. It's like a
- 20:12Speaker 7: beater bar of a of a vacuum cleaner. And what
- 20:17Speaker 7: it does is it grabs the top of these trees.
- 20:21Speaker 7: And I mean I was about twelve years ago there
- 20:24Speaker 7: was a deracho here in central Virginia and it knocked
- 20:27Speaker 7: out power in some areas for almost a month because
- 20:30Speaker 7: the trees that they tore down were so over the place.
- 20:34Speaker 7: Every time an electric utility would restore a power line,
- 20:39Speaker 7: they discovered there were three more power lines connected to
- 20:42Speaker 7: it that were also out, so they couldn't, you know.
- 20:43Speaker 7: Finally they finally got everyone back on. But I mean
- 20:47Speaker 7: I watched trees that were four feet across snap like
- 20:52Speaker 7: match sticks.
- 20:54Speaker 19: Oh yeah, yeah. Well, we don't have a name for it.
- 20:58Speaker 19: We just call it straight line. When or a micro
- 21:01Speaker 19: burst micro burs micro yeah.
- 21:06Speaker 7: Yeah, the damage is macro, not necessarily micro. So what's
- 21:10Speaker 7: on your mind, sir?
- 21:12Speaker 9: Well?
- 21:13Speaker 19: Listening to you and Mike talk about college football, and
- 21:16Speaker 19: for people listening, I live in Alabama.
- 21:20Speaker 20: Okay, so that is our opiate of the masses. I
- 21:25Speaker 20: watched high school football on ESPN T last night.
- 21:31Speaker 7: Joe it's gotten to that point. Well, a lot of
- 21:34Speaker 7: the high school leagues now have name image likeness rules.
- 21:37Speaker 7: The Virginia's High School League has a whole book full
- 21:41Speaker 7: of name image likeness regulations. So you've got high school
- 21:45Speaker 7: kids who are doing ads for you know, I guess
- 21:49Speaker 7: the local you know, creamery or whatnot, and they have
- 21:52Speaker 7: to have regulations as to uh, the inducements and the
- 21:57Speaker 7: payouts for those who might seek to traffic in that.
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- 28:23Speaker 1: Of the First Amendment. First thing today.
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- 28:29Speaker 7: on this Friday morning. This is what we do here,
- 28:39Speaker 7: so joining us here to talk a little bit about
- 28:43Speaker 7: a case of education, freedom and the law. Unfortunately, a
- 28:49Speaker 7: lot of folks need, and we have said this before,
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- 28:58Speaker 7: Hitchin President and is on with us filing Hall v. Fleming,
- 29:05Speaker 7: State aid barred to being to a degree program being
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- 29:16Speaker 7: steps in when our constitutional rights are quote abridged there.
- 29:21Speaker 7: How are you doing there?
- 29:24Speaker 26: Yeah, we're glad to be with you today. And this
- 29:27Speaker 26: is a really important case. There is a lot of
- 29:29Speaker 26: discrimination against religion still in society and in the academy.
- 29:34Speaker 26: So let's have to take it to the Supreme Court.
- 29:36Speaker 7: Yep, no without questions as part and working with the
- 29:40Speaker 7: Alliance Defending Freedom as well on this. But so talk
- 29:43Speaker 7: about the case in here. So this is and people say, oh,
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- 30:00Speaker 7: think it needs to be dragged down into the sunlight
- 30:03Speaker 7: when they go and try to defund program simply because
- 30:07Speaker 7: they don't fit into a dogma. Steve, give us the
- 30:09Speaker 7: details on this case that's going before the Supreme Court.
- 30:14Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 30:14Speaker 26: So, our client, Bethany Hall is a student at Liberty
- 30:18Speaker 26: and she was given this grant which is operated by
- 30:21Speaker 26: the State of Virginia. So obviously we all know that
- 30:25Speaker 26: Liberty University is a Christian university, so it's not about
- 30:27Speaker 26: the university. She was going to get the money there,
- 30:30Speaker 26: but when she changed her major from music education to
- 30:34Speaker 26: youth ministries, Liberty notified her that said, under regulations by
- 30:39Speaker 26: the state of Virginia.
- 30:40Speaker 9: We can't give you this money anymore.
- 30:43Speaker 26: And the reason this is true is because there was
- 30:45Speaker 26: a terrible Supreme Court case back in two thousand and
- 30:47Speaker 26: four called Lockney Davy, and the Supreme Court said, yeah,
- 30:50Speaker 26: states can do this. They can discriminate against religion if
- 30:55Speaker 26: they want to when they give other people a financial aid.
- 30:58Speaker 9: And so we said, this can stand.
- 31:00Speaker 26: So we sued, knowing we would lose in the district court,
- 31:03Speaker 26: knowing we would lose in the Court of Appeals because
- 31:06Speaker 26: they can't overturn Supreme Court president.
- 31:08Speaker 9: Now we're going to the Supreme.
- 31:09Speaker 26: Court because of course they can overturn their own dad presidents,
- 31:13Speaker 26: and that's what we want them to do.
- 31:14Speaker 7: Well, take us back to the bad president and how
- 31:17Speaker 7: they got here too to open this gaping loophole.
- 31:22Speaker 26: Yeah, Well, as I said, it was a case from
- 31:24Speaker 26: two thousand and four.
- 31:25Speaker 9: It's called lockv. Davy.
- 31:27Speaker 26: And before explain that, I'll just add a kind of
- 31:30Speaker 26: a matter.
- 31:31Speaker 9: Of poetic justice.
- 31:32Speaker 26: Josh Davie, the student in that case, is now one
- 31:35Speaker 26: of Bethany's attorneys along with the.
- 31:37Speaker 9: Folks my group.
- 31:38Speaker 26: And so that's too good. Yeah, that's great, isn't it.
- 31:43Speaker 26: But what happened was is he was a student at
- 31:46Speaker 26: a state university in or may have been a private university,
- 31:50Speaker 26: but in the state of Washington, and they said the same.
- 31:53Speaker 9: Thing to him.
- 31:54Speaker 26: We would give you this money because we give it
- 31:56Speaker 26: to lots of people.
- 31:57Speaker 9: But no, no, no, your major.
- 31:58Speaker 26: Is too religious, he sued, And as I said, he
- 32:01Speaker 26: lost at the Supreme Court in a terrible, terrible opinion,
- 32:05Speaker 26: and that's the one we're trying to get overturned. It's
- 32:07Speaker 26: exactly what they're still doing all over this country twenty
- 32:10Speaker 26: years later.
- 32:11Speaker 7: Well, I bet he's, you know, working some unbillable hours.
- 32:14Speaker 7: If it's you know there, that's pretty good there. So
- 32:19Speaker 7: this is the kind of thing though, where I don't know,
- 32:23Speaker 7: how do they get twisted around? And we spent a
- 32:25Speaker 7: lot of time on Roe versus Weight, obviously one of
- 32:27Speaker 7: the most famous bad I think there's Buck v. Bell
- 32:30Speaker 7: is another horrible Supreme Court ruling and everyone says, oh,
- 32:33Speaker 7: Supreme Court says, well, Supreme Court gets it wrong a lot.
- 32:37Speaker 7: That's why some of my is the dissenting opinions are
- 32:40Speaker 7: sometimes my favorite part of a Supreme Court ruling. But
- 32:45Speaker 7: you know, is is it populism. Is it just you know,
- 32:49Speaker 7: how the case is written. Coming up through the appellate system,
- 32:53Speaker 7: A lot of people say, oh, you got to be careful.
- 32:55Speaker 7: It's how the original case is written that you have
- 32:58Speaker 7: to really be careful or is all of that true.
- 33:03Speaker 26: Yeah, it's hard to know because Chief Justice Rehnquist was
- 33:09Speaker 26: wrote the opinion in two thousand and four.
- 33:11Speaker 9: Of course he's not on the court. He's a long
- 33:15Speaker 9: passed away.
- 33:16Speaker 26: Yeah, but there's only one justice left from that court,
- 33:19Speaker 26: which is Justice Thomas, and he was in the descent
- 33:21Speaker 26: in that case. So that's part of what makes us hopeful.
- 33:24Speaker 26: But this really isn't politics. It's just hard to explain
- 33:30Speaker 26: why Renquist and the other members of the court went
- 33:33Speaker 26: the way they did. I mean, Lockey Davy has been
- 33:35Speaker 26: criticized from the day it was issued by some of
- 33:38Speaker 26: the best constitutional scholars in the country. Nobody has figured
- 33:43Speaker 26: out why they made this horrible joice, this horrible decision.
- 33:47Speaker 7: Well, as Davies is on your legal team, I imagine
- 33:50Speaker 7: that's a big step. So in this case, you know,
- 33:54Speaker 7: it's the Commonwealth of Virginia again leaning on religious speech.
- 34:00Speaker 7: Not as surprising giving the political makeup of it. There's
- 34:05Speaker 7: a libertarian bent that says, this is why we shouldn't
- 34:08Speaker 7: have government subsidizing education. But then you also run the
- 34:14Speaker 7: you know, to the danger of institutions being even more
- 34:20Speaker 7: so politically woke, don't you think.
- 34:23Speaker 9: Yeah, I think we.
- 34:24Speaker 26: Have to remember what the Founding generation believed. If you
- 34:28Speaker 26: study the history there, they were not against governments making
- 34:35Speaker 26: generally available benefits available to religious people along.
- 34:40Speaker 9: With every other citizen.
- 34:41Speaker 26: So that's what's happening here is not religion is not
- 34:44Speaker 26: being favored. Religion is proactively being disfavored. We will give
- 34:49Speaker 26: this to every student who meets some minimal criteria, but
- 34:53Speaker 26: not if your degree is quote unquote to religious.
- 34:56Speaker 9: It is religious.
- 34:57Speaker 26: Discrimination, pure and simple. And one of the things that
- 34:59Speaker 26: the judge said below. We got a great opinion from
- 35:02Speaker 26: Judge Richardson below calling for the Supreme Court to overturn
- 35:06Speaker 26: this case. He said, it betrays the Founding generation's.
- 35:09Speaker 9: View of religious liberty. And that's exactly what it does.
- 35:13Speaker 7: You know, on a grander scale. Stephen Hitchin is on
- 35:16Speaker 7: with us CO counsel in this case but also president
- 35:20Speaker 7: of the National Legal Foundation. This is the fruit of
- 35:26Speaker 7: a poisonous tree that has been growing for thirty years.
- 35:30Speaker 7: I mean I actually debated a woman who ran an
- 35:34Speaker 7: organization called the Free Thought Society, Margaret Downey. I found
- 35:39Speaker 7: out she lived in the area my station was in.
- 35:42Speaker 7: I invited her, and she was the one fighting in
- 35:44Speaker 7: Alabama to have the Ten Commandments taken down. I mean,
- 35:48Speaker 7: this has been this instead of a separation of church
- 35:52Speaker 7: and state, what I call a confrontation of church v State.
- 35:57Speaker 7: Since then, it seems like Steve am I wrong.
- 36:00Speaker 9: No, No, you're right.
- 36:02Speaker 26: My organization was founded in nineteen eighty five, and it
- 36:05Speaker 26: was founded because things were horrible then. We didn't just
- 36:09Speaker 26: decide to come into existence because we said, oh maybe
- 36:12Speaker 26: there's some religious discrimination out there. It was blatant, it
- 36:14Speaker 26: was flagrant, it was everywhere. So you're right, this.
- 36:17Speaker 9: Goes way back.
- 36:19Speaker 7: So how do we unpack this? I guess that's the question.
- 36:22Speaker 7: I mean, aside from winning some of these cases, which
- 36:24Speaker 7: I always say, you know this is this is why,
- 36:27Speaker 7: you know, political wins and losses and political parties be damned.
- 36:31Speaker 7: I want my listeners giving money to organizations like yours
- 36:34Speaker 7: and the Alliance Defending Freedom because when whether it's the first,
- 36:38Speaker 7: the second, the third, or fourth, you know, these cases
- 36:41Speaker 7: have to be defended in the in sometimes all the
- 36:44Speaker 7: way up to the Supreme Court. And it's your firms
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- 36:57Speaker 26: Yeah, that's right. We are don't supported. We are adf
- 37:02Speaker 26: IS for c Liberty is who's also on this case.
- 37:05Speaker 26: As you said, Josh Davy's given a lot of free
- 37:07Speaker 26: hours on this case.
- 37:09Speaker 9: But it's right.
- 37:10Speaker 26: You know, what people used to say about the left
- 37:12Speaker 26: is that as they couldn't win in the elections, they
- 37:17Speaker 26: would try to win in the courts. And in a
- 37:19Speaker 26: way we are doing that too. But the huge difference
- 37:23Speaker 26: is they would go to the courts to further their
- 37:27Speaker 26: social engineering. We go to the courts to return this
- 37:30Speaker 26: country to the principles of the founders. So yeah, that's
- 37:34Speaker 26: that's the difference, and it's kind of fighting fire with fire.
- 37:36Speaker 26: But we have first Principle on our side and they're
- 37:39Speaker 26: just complete of pragmatic social engineers.
- 37:42Speaker 7: I don't want to bury the lead. Where do people
- 37:44Speaker 7: find you online? Steve?
- 37:47Speaker 9: Okay?
- 37:48Speaker 26: So the website is National Legal Foundation, all run together
- 37:52Speaker 26: in no spaces, National Legal Foundation dot org.
- 37:55Speaker 7: All right, and I want to follow up on a
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- 44:34Speaker 7: there's always something you can do. Steve Hitchins on with
- 44:37Speaker 7: us from the National Legal Foundation. Steve on this case,
- 44:44Speaker 7: and I appreciate you hanging on you. You mentioned you
- 44:48Speaker 7: know that this is about getting back to founding principles.
- 44:52Speaker 7: This is why you know twenty seventeen they started after
- 44:57Speaker 7: Jefferson and Madison, especially here in there hometown where we
- 45:01Speaker 7: flag from, you know, and we sort of beat that back.
- 45:05Speaker 7: But I feel like this is coming back the two
- 45:07Speaker 7: hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Every promotional announcement, I see, Oh,
- 45:11Speaker 7: we look into the flawed but important Thomas Jefferson, and
- 45:15Speaker 7: they keep laying the word flawed out there, and I'm
- 45:17Speaker 7: thinking this is this is salting the earth for a
- 45:21Speaker 7: campaign later against Thomas Jefferson, his work product. The fact
- 45:26Speaker 7: that the Bill of Rights remains in place and hasn't
- 45:30Speaker 7: been replaced by some promissory note of you know, the
- 45:33Speaker 7: right to housing and the right to a doctor and
- 45:36Speaker 7: the right to a wage or whatever else they try
- 45:39Speaker 7: to come up with a right to you know, indiscriminate sex,
- 45:42Speaker 7: any of those things. Notwithstanding, this is such an important
- 45:48Speaker 7: abstract that we haven't lost these original documents and that
- 45:52Speaker 7: if we do it right, we can clear the decks
- 45:54Speaker 7: of a lot of the stuff that was piled on
- 45:56Speaker 7: top of it and get back to because it's still there,
- 45:59Speaker 7: the founding principles.
- 46:02Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right.
- 46:03Speaker 26: I mean, I think, you know, our perspective is that
- 46:05Speaker 26: we are both a public interest law firm and a
- 46:08Speaker 26: Christian ministry, and coming from that point of view. We
- 46:11Speaker 26: recognize that there were no you know, there are no
- 46:14Speaker 26: sinilest people's that's why we need a savior. And we
- 46:18Speaker 26: admit what we need to admit about the founders, but
- 46:22Speaker 26: we don't tear down what they built, which is the
- 46:25Speaker 26: most amazing form of government the world's ever seen.
- 46:28Speaker 9: And that's just you know, not right wing rhetoric.
- 46:32Speaker 26: That's recognized and has been recognized for one hundred years
- 46:36Speaker 26: around the world. So many countries modeled their constitutional on
- 46:39Speaker 26: our constitution.
- 46:40Speaker 9: Why it was the.
- 46:41Speaker 26: Best that's ever been created, and that was widely recognized.
- 46:44Speaker 26: So we yeah, we admit flaws in our founders, of course,
- 46:48Speaker 26: as we admit flaws in ourselves, but we don't want
- 46:50Speaker 26: to destroy what they built, which is was an incredible
- 46:54Speaker 26: piece of political genius.
- 46:56Speaker 7: Oh without question, and the fact that it left it
- 46:59Speaker 7: on us. I mean I say this, you know, I
- 47:01Speaker 7: want to make America great again by making Americans great again.
- 47:06Speaker 7: You know, the United States has to work on moral people.
- 47:09Speaker 7: I believe capitalism is the same way if we're immoral,
- 47:12Speaker 7: if we've been removed. And that's why I went back
- 47:15Speaker 7: and I mentioned Margaret Downey in the Free Thought Society
- 47:17Speaker 7: and taking the ten commandments down because we have a
- 47:20Speaker 7: problem in our schools with kids lying, cheating, murdering. You know, gee,
- 47:25Speaker 7: if there was only a list Steve that that said maybe,
- 47:28Speaker 7: you know, maybe don't do that, or your soul will
- 47:31Speaker 7: be damned to hell forever. I know that sounds mean spirited,
- 47:35Speaker 7: but that's the that's the deal, isn't it.
- 47:39Speaker 9: Well it is.
- 47:39Speaker 26: I mean, it's it's you know, the famous quote that
- 47:42Speaker 26: our Constitution was made for moral people and it's not
- 47:44Speaker 26: capable of governing any other.
- 47:47Speaker 9: So we have to consider all of this.
- 47:49Speaker 26: You know, it's the course, it's it's the elections, but
- 47:52Speaker 26: it's also the moral climate of the country and that's
- 47:57Speaker 26: in bad shape right now. And of course, just as
- 47:58Speaker 26: so many other things are that we've been talking about.
- 48:00Speaker 7: Can't us up on the timeline before we run out
- 48:03Speaker 7: of time? Here Steve Hitchin, president of the National Legal Foundation,
- 48:08Speaker 7: and this case of the Virginia student suing for her
- 48:12Speaker 7: rights to get grants if she qualified for them from
- 48:17Speaker 7: the state despite what she was studying. What is the
- 48:20Speaker 7: what is the timelineman on it?
- 48:25Speaker 9: Yes?
- 48:25Speaker 26: So, first, well, there's sort of going to be two
- 48:27Speaker 26: timelines because we actually filed another petition yesterday on behalf
- 48:32Speaker 26: of three more liberty students who are suffering the same
- 48:36Speaker 26: discrimination in the same grant program, plus one another.
- 48:39Speaker 9: So there's going to be two timelines.
- 48:40Speaker 26: But yesterday, interestingly, we were also contacted by the State
- 48:45Speaker 26: of Virginia asking for a thirty day extension at the
- 48:49Speaker 26: Supreme Court, which the Supreme Court grants routinely. So they're
- 48:53Speaker 26: going to get thirty days to file whatever answer they
- 48:56Speaker 26: have to why they're doing this, and then we will
- 48:58Speaker 26: get to reply.
- 49:00Speaker 9: That takes two more weeks.
- 49:01Speaker 26: And then it goes to the justices, and once it
- 49:04Speaker 26: gets to them, it can take months and months and
- 49:06Speaker 26: months before they decide yes or no.
- 49:08Speaker 9: So we're looking in the future.
- 49:11Speaker 26: You know, if we get the cert granted, the petition granted,
- 49:15Speaker 26: we would expect argument in the.
- 49:20Speaker 7: Steve. I'm well, that awkward.
- 49:28Speaker 9: That was That was.
- 49:31Speaker 7: I guess spring. I mean, that's usually when the Supreme
- 49:33Speaker 7: Court hears it's new arguments, is early in the spring,
- 49:37Speaker 7: after the Red Mass and all of that. They're, oh, wow,
- 49:41Speaker 7: that's the National Legal Foundation and all these organizations that
- 49:50Speaker 7: do such great work for us. And I mentioned the
- 49:52Speaker 7: fact that statists are going to state I mean they
- 49:57Speaker 7: they they're going to come after you. They're going to
- 50:00Speaker 7: aim some reason that they should be able to surveil you.
- 50:03Speaker 7: They're going to claim that without a warrant, they're going
- 50:06Speaker 7: to claim See our earlier conversation and the one we
- 50:09Speaker 7: had in depth yesterday about flock cameras, security cameras, and
- 50:15Speaker 7: I think I had the constitutional answer to it. They're
- 50:18Speaker 7: going to exist. I mean, cameras exist. We can't pretend
- 50:21Speaker 7: they don't. You want to use them, you need to
- 50:24Speaker 7: get a warrant. If you don't get a warrant, it's
- 50:27Speaker 7: fruit from the poisonoustry and it's out and I don't
- 50:30Speaker 7: care what. And the problem is, we live in a
- 50:32Speaker 7: world where we feel like we absolutely know who the
- 50:36Speaker 7: bad guys are. So we allow states to establish laws
- 50:41Speaker 7: like civil asset forfeiture, which are the fruit of an
- 50:47Speaker 7: understandable battle against drug lords and drug dealers. But what
- 50:52Speaker 7: it's done is because it doesn't say in cases of
- 50:57Speaker 7: drug enforcement. It says the state can take your property
- 51:04Speaker 7: and never give it back to you if they feel
- 51:08Speaker 7: you are going to liquidate that property to pay for
- 51:13Speaker 7: your legal expenses. Think about that. You live in a
- 51:16Speaker 7: country where there are laws in some states, including Virginia,
- 51:20Speaker 7: that say you can have your property taken away from
- 51:23Speaker 7: you to keep you from selling it, to pay lawyers
- 51:28Speaker 7: to defend you in court. Somewhere the ghost of King
- 51:33Speaker 7: George the Third is sitting there saying, why didn't know
- 51:36Speaker 7: think of that? Or let the buggers keep their land?
- 51:43Speaker 7: I burnt their farms down. Anyway, we will gather things
- 51:51Speaker 7: together for you. Saturday morning comes and we go to work,
- 51:55Speaker 7: because Saturdays are like that now, and that's just the
- 51:59Speaker 7: way it is. And you know, we appreciate. Where did
- 52:03Speaker 7: I complain? We just put our shoulder into it and
- 52:16Speaker 7: gets started with the day. As the man sings, gotta work,
- 52:21Speaker 7: you gotta go the rents do he's got a deadline.
- 52:25Speaker 1: He says, it's no all over time.
- 52:28Speaker 2: He said it's something for day he needs right now.
- 52:30Speaker 7: It's on specified.
- 52:32Speaker 5: I got the far, he says, he knows the bud
- 52:34Speaker 5: in a long week, but he's gotta be in pc BE.
- 52:37Speaker 1: So it eats me. So I got rents new next week, same.
- 52:42Speaker 7: End to that brough till Saturday morning, six eastern.
- 52:46Speaker 9: For that.
- 52:46Speaker 7: I'm Joe Thomas, so long and thanks for all the fish.
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