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- 0:03Your ultimate authority for daily Elon Musk News, exploring
- 0:07the world's biggest ideas with your host Will Walden.
- 0:11There's something new. Will Elon Musk finally deliver
- 0:14on his long promised robo taxi revolution?
- 0:18Now this question has arised after Musk announced this week
- 0:22the exit tests autonomous taxi service will launch on June 22nd
- 0:26in Austin, TX. The Robotaxi initiative has
- 0:30lingered in Musk's promises for about 6 years, positioned as
- 0:33Tesla's most critical future product and Tesla's ambitious
- 0:37center around creating self driving vehicles that can
- 0:40navigate urban environments without human assistance,
- 0:44ideally rejuvenating the company's dwindling financial
- 0:47outlook. Now, Tesla's robo taxi strategy
- 0:50centers around Model Y SU VS currently on the market, though
- 0:53Musk anticipates a steering wheel free model.
- 0:56The Cyber cab could enter production by 2026 and Musk
- 1:00believes that Tesla's camera based technology known as FSD
- 1:05will offer the necessary precision for safe navigation.
- 1:09He repeatedly mocks competing technologies such as Lidar,
- 1:12which is a radar radar based sensor system which is widely
- 1:16utilized by competitors like Waymo.
- 1:19Traditional automotive giants previously entered this sphere
- 1:22only to withdraw after incurring significant costs.
- 1:26General Motors, despite investing billions of dollars,
- 1:28recently abandoned its robotaxi ambitions, pointing to heavy
- 1:32investments in an increasingly crowded marketplace.
- 1:36Ford similarly shuttered its autonomous driving division,
- 1:39concluding that robotaxis presented excessive financial
- 1:42and technological challenges. Now, these decisions leave Tesla
- 1:46alone among major automakers in America.
- 1:50In pursuing this new technology, however, Tesla faces
- 1:55considerable obstacles in demonstrating both technological
- 1:59reliability and economic viability.
- 2:02Bryant Walker Smith, a Stanford law expert specializing in
- 2:05autonomous vehicle regulation, argues that Tesla's main hurdle
- 2:08is economic competition, particularly against human
- 2:12operated ride sharing services like Uber and Lyft.
- 2:15Uber drivers often operate under low wages, which presents
- 2:18significant pricing pressure on robo taxi services, especially
- 2:22considering the high maintenance and operational costs of
- 2:25autonomous vehicle fleets. And currently, Tesla's approach
- 2:29contrasts sharply with Waymo. This is an autonomous taxi
- 2:33service already operational in several U.S. cities like San
- 2:36Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Austin, the same market that
- 2:40Tesla now targets. Waymo, having begun commercial
- 2:44operations in 2020, has grown significantly recently,
- 2:47surpassing 10 million rides delivered via its fleet of about
- 2:501500 vehicles. But despite this growth, Waymo
- 2:53continues to incur substantial losses.
- 2:56They reported a $4.1 billion deficit last year.
- 2:59Within Alphabets broader financial structure, though, the
- 3:02parent company remains highly profitable overall.
- 3:06Moreover, Uber is strengthening its autonomous vehicle position
- 3:10through strategic partnerships, particularly with Waymo.
- 3:13The Uber CEO recently emphasized that while humans will remain
- 3:16central to Uber's model, Robotaxi's offer valuable long
- 3:20term potential. Uber's collaboration with Waymo
- 3:22is expanding beyond Austin into new markets like Atlanta, and
- 3:26they're aiming to gradually integrate autonomous vehicles
- 3:29into its fleet alongside traditional drivers.
- 3:32Now, safety concerns also play a significant role in shaping
- 3:35public perceptions around robo taxis.
- 3:38Tesla's vehicles have already attracted scrutiny as incidents.
- 3:43Tesla's FSD has been involved in leading the National Highway
- 3:48Traffic Safety Administration to launch investigations into
- 3:50serious crashes, including one fatal accident involving A
- 3:54pedestrian. A Tesla's reliance solely on
- 3:57camera based systems without radar or Lidar leaves it
- 4:01particularly vulnerable to environmental challenges like
- 4:04sun glare or poor visibility conditions.
- 4:08Now just take a second and I want to say thank you to Uber.
- 4:13Uber is helping us out with this episode.
- 4:15And if you've ever thought about becoming an Uber driver, if you
- 4:18need a little bit of spare cash, maybe 50 bucks here and there,
- 4:21you want to take somebody out to dinner, you want to just save a
- 4:25little bit of money on the side, do it on the weekends.
- 4:28It's a really good way to use something that you may already
- 4:32have that you're not using to its fullest potential.
- 4:36I've done Uber in the past. I'm going to be honest with you
- 4:39and the fact that I could make 2 or $300 in a day just driving my
- 4:44car around, talking to cool people, it's great.
- 4:47There's a link in the show notes for you to check that out.
- 4:51And I want you to know I get a little tiny kickback for that.
- 4:53So when you sign up and you give your first ride, I might make
- 4:57like 5 bucks. So just so you know now, the
- 5:01autonomous vehicle mirrors historical reservations about
- 5:07early automated elevators. The initial discomfort typically
- 5:12subsides quickly once passengers experience the service full hand
- 5:16though, so whether Tesla's camera only FSD system can
- 5:19reliably detect hazards comparable to lighter equipped
- 5:23vehicles remains A contentious question.
- 5:26Is it going to miss all the obstacles that are in its way?
- 5:30Will it drive around them? There's been studies on YouTube
- 5:33channels, we've all seen them of Tesla completely failing in fog
- 5:39and not so ideal conditions. So we're going to see how this
- 5:42works out. Make sure to stay tuned to this
- 5:44channel because if there's any news about this FSD happening in
- 5:49Austin, we're going to be there. Economically, though, Tesla
- 5:53urgently requires a successful new venture as financial
- 5:55pressures mount. Last year, Tesla's sales
- 5:58declined for the first time annually, accompanied by a sharp
- 6:01drop in quarterly profits. The company's stock price
- 6:03reflects these difficulties, having plunged 30% since a
- 6:06mid-december peak, partially impacted by market reactions to
- 6:10Musk's outspoken political affiliations and public
- 6:14statements. And despite these ongoing
- 6:16challenges and repeated delays, Musk continues projecting
- 6:20immense optimism about the robo taxi on Tesla's value.
- 6:25He claimed during an investor presentation earlier this year
- 6:28robotaxis could trigger the largest asset value increase in
- 6:30human history, suggesting Tesla could dominate as much as 99% of
- 6:36the robotaxi market. But think about this.
- 6:39If Tesla can nail FSD, they already have the production
- 6:44facilities to make as many cars as they need.
- 6:48Analysts remain skeptical about Musk's claims, though.
- 6:51Gordon Johnson of GLJ Research dismisses the forthcoming June
- 6:55launches More promotional than practical, Johnson argues that
- 6:59Tesla's latest move amongst to merely demonstrating technical
- 7:02capability rather than seriously testing commercial feasibility.
- 7:06And he said that there's a possibility that Tesla will only
- 7:11be able to have enough cars on the road to make it worth it in
- 7:15about a year or two. Now skepticism it's broader
- 7:20industry doubts surrounding Musk's repeated ambitions about
- 7:25Tesla's performance gaps now. Smith also notes that Musk's
- 7:31long record of overly optimistic forecasts undermines current
- 7:36assertions. Historically, Musk has
- 7:38repeatedly announced imminent breakthroughs for Tesla's
- 7:40autonomous vehicle ambitions will need to postpone or revise
- 7:43these timelines substantially by years, possibly decades.
- 7:48FSD was announced a long time ago, still isn't here
- 7:51completely. Tesla did not respond to
- 7:54requests from us for further comment on the impending launch.
- 7:57As June 22nd approaches, Tesla's success or struggle and
- 8:01delivering a mobile viable robo taxi service could decisively
- 8:05impact the company's long term viability and also reshape
- 8:10everybody's visions of Musk's credibility.
- 8:14Just as future prospects hinge significantly on whether its
- 8:18latest robot taxi announcement proves to be another unmet
- 8:21promise or the beginning of our transformative new era for
- 8:25autonomous transportation. Elon Musk is shifting his tone
- 8:30on Donald Trump after weeks of backlash triggered a rare
- 8:33internal warning from Tesla's board of directors.
- 8:37Public criticism surged following Musk's prominent role
- 8:39in Trump's second administration, and for the
- 8:42first time in years, Tesla's leadership told Musk directly
- 8:45that his political behavior was damaging the company.
- 8:48Multiple people familiar with that matter said the board told
- 8:51Musk he would need to walk back his statements about Trump and
- 8:54fast or risk losing his position at Tesla now.
- 8:58The shift began in late spring, shortly after Musk stood next to
- 9:02Trump at a White House press event and doubled down on the
- 9:05federal layoffs driven by Doge. The Department of Government
- 9:07Efficiency and Musk had personally overseen the cuts,
- 9:11defended them publicly and celebrated his success at the
- 9:15Oval Office. But inside Tesla, those moments
- 9:18created a different kind of panic.
- 9:21Key customers began cancelling orders.
- 9:24Sentiment on investor calls turned hostile.
- 9:27Tesla stock dipped sharply in the two weeks following Musk's
- 9:30highest profile political appearances.
- 9:33Board members took notice as well.
- 9:35Two directors, including one who has worked with Musk since
- 9:39Tesla's earliest years, warned that public association with
- 9:42Trump was becoming an existential threat to the brand.
- 9:45They argued that Musk's recent political comments were
- 9:49alienating core Tesla buyers, many of whom lean liberal or
- 9:52identify with climate activism. When director reportedly told
- 9:56him you can't sell clean energy cars while backing someone
- 10:00tearing up the EPA. Now Tesla's internal data team
- 10:04had already flagged concerning trends.
- 10:06Social media sentiment analysts showed Tesla's brand approval
- 10:10had dropped by double digits in key markets like California and
- 10:14New York. Suburban buyers wants a stable
- 10:17Tesla demographic. We're voicing concerns about
- 10:19Musk's comments on LGBTQ rights in his dismissive tone toward
- 10:24climate policy. Now Tesla's PR team, which Musk
- 10:27had famously dismantled, struggled to mount any kind of
- 10:31response. Privately, Elon Musk started
- 10:34softening his language. At a June meeting, he was asked
- 10:38about his role in Trump's second term, and for the first time, he
- 10:41didn't answer with his usual bravado.
- 10:44He said only that he believed in efficiency and wanted what was
- 10:48best for the country. He avoided using Trump's name
- 10:51entirely. The silence wasn't random.
- 10:54Sources close to the board say they told him that
- 10:57disassociating from Trump was non negotiable if he wanted to
- 11:00maintain his leadership position.
- 11:02The pressure came as Tesla faced other vulnerabilities.
- 11:06Its market global share had begun shrinking under intense
- 11:09competition from Chinese electric vehicle makers, and the
- 11:14company also remained under federal investigation for safety
- 11:17violations tied to Autopilot. Any appearance of political
- 11:21favoritism risked drawing unwanted attention to those
- 11:24cases, especially since Musk had helped dismantle the regulatory
- 11:29agencies meant to oversee them. That board members also raised
- 11:33concerns about brand consistency for years.
- 11:36Test the market itself as a clean tech leader, a climate
- 11:39first brand backed by innovation.
- 11:41Musk's political rhetoric was pulling the company into a
- 11:44completely different orbit. When Musk echoed Trump's anti
- 11:48trans talking points and used terms like woke mind virus,
- 11:52Tesla's legal and marketing teams received a wave of emails
- 11:55from longtime customers threatening to cancel orders.
- 11:58At the core of the board's concern was shareholder trust,
- 12:01though. After Musk's purchase of
- 12:03Twitter, Now X, many investors question whether he could
- 12:06balance Tesla's needs with his growing political ventures.
- 12:09The Trump alliance pushed those concerns over the edge.
- 12:12Major institutional investors warned that Musk's behavior was
- 12:16destabilizing the company's value.
- 12:18Some quietly began trimming their Tesla holdings.
- 12:21And the final breaking point came when Tesla's customer
- 12:23satisfaction rating dropped below 70% for the first time in
- 12:27the company's modern history. Internal polling attributed the
- 12:32decline directly to Musk's political activity and public
- 12:35persona. One director told colleagues
- 12:38that our product didn't get worse, our CEO did.
- 12:43And after the internal push, Musk began a slow retreat.
- 12:46He has not publicly apologized for his role in Trump's
- 12:49administration, but insiders say he issued a private statement to
- 12:52test the board members, acknowledging that he had let
- 12:55personal convictions interfere with company responsibilities.
- 12:59That message wasn't released publicly but was seen as the
- 13:03first step toward more visible damage control.
- 13:06And the Musk's recent tweets have also reflected this change.
- 13:09In early May, he posted praise for renewable energy initiatives
- 13:12in Europe, shared a photo of Tesla solar installation in
- 13:15Puerto Rico, and promoted an LGBTQ friendly hiring campaign
- 13:20at a Tesla plant in Nevada. Those posts are part of what
- 13:23some inside the company to describe as a coordinated effort
- 13:27to rebalance his image. Still, Tesla employees remain
- 13:31skeptical. Several said that unless Musk
- 13:34offers a direct public apology or makes a clean break from
- 13:37Trump, the damage may already be done.
- 13:39Others within the company fear that Musk's political ambitions
- 13:42will resurface after the immediate backlash fades.
- 13:46And at a June meeting, one director proposed setting up a
- 13:49formal political conduct clause and Musk's executive agreement,
- 13:53an unprecedented move at Tesla. And that proposal has not yet
- 13:56been approved. But its existence signals just
- 13:59how seriously the company now views the situation.
- 14:03And for Elon Musk, the tension between personal freedom and
- 14:06corporate leadership is becoming harder to manage.
- 14:08Built Tesla on the back of a progressive consumer base and
- 14:12that finds themselves at odds with much of his user base.
- 14:18That same community that built Tesla and made him so rich, they
- 14:23feel like he has turned his back on them.
- 14:26And now he's on a public campaign to wash away everything
- 14:30that he did with Donald Trump, all the negative things that he
- 14:34said about the community, everything he said about people.
- 14:40He's trying to wash that all away.
- 14:41That's what these people think. And it's public turn toward hard
- 14:45right politics alienated a segment of the market that I
- 14:48made Tesla one of the most admired brands in the entire
- 14:51world. Now, if Musk doesn't make a more
- 14:54explicit public correction, the company may face deeper
- 14:58problems. Now, we all know if you've been
- 15:02following this, that Elon Musk had broken ties with Trump on X,
- 15:09therefore he thinks that does the company well.
- 15:13I'm sure the shareholders found that good and people inside the
- 15:17company were impressed by that. But he also just said I may have
- 15:23taken things too far. He didn't say he disagreed or he
- 15:27is completely cutting ties with President Donald Trump.
- 15:30He's just said that he may have taken his actions a little bit
- 15:35too far, which if you know the policies in Tesla right now and
- 15:42what they're looking to put on his executive contract in the
- 15:47future. I think political leanings for
- 15:51Elon Musk or any CEO that may be replacing him, which isn't the
- 15:54case at this point, But anybody that may be replacing Elon Musk
- 15:58in the future, I think they should be held accountable for
- 16:03any political damage that they do to the brand.
- 16:06My own personal opinion, I think Elon Musk went wild for a little
- 16:11bit there on X and he's pulled back, He's apologized and for
- 16:19most of the people that used to support Elon Musk, they believe
- 16:23this is APR campaign. He doesn't really feel this way.
- 16:26Elon Musk is just posting these things on X.
- 16:29They even think the break from Donald Trump.
- 16:32Some people think the break from Donald Trump.
- 16:34Even internal people on the board think the break from
- 16:37Donald Trump or know that the break from Donald Trump is
- 16:40actually just APR stunt to convince just enough people from
- 16:48left-leaning policies, those kind of people to buy Teslas
- 16:52again. The stock is dipping, the sales
- 16:56are going away, and if you could get even a small margin of those
- 16:59people back by pretending to be done with Trump, because Trump,
- 17:07as was stated last week by Donald Trump on True Social and
- 17:11on X, that the easiest way to save money was to cut Elon
- 17:16Musk's contracts with Tesla and SpaceX and Neuralink and all of
- 17:22his companies. Donald Trump said that and then
- 17:25immediately Elon Musk blew up at him and said they're going to
- 17:30stop doing the Dragon spacecraft.
- 17:32That's the spacecraft that sends humans to the International
- 17:35Space Station and to space. They're going to cut all of that
- 17:40funding and stop making new versions of the Dragon.
- 17:45They plan that anyway. Elon Musk and SpaceX has been
- 17:49planning that for years. They were going to decommission
- 17:53the older Dragon spacecrafts and just use the new versions.
- 17:58They can't get rid of the Dragon spacecraft.
- 18:01They have contracts with NASA, they have contracts with the
- 18:03government, they have private contracts that sends people to
- 18:06space. They can't decommission the
- 18:08whole thing right away, but they are planning to decommission the
- 18:13Dragon spacecraft when Starship comes fully online, when they
- 18:17can send people to space, to low Earth orbit and to the Moon and
- 18:21Mars, etcetera. With Starship, they're going to
- 18:23decommission that anyway. So the plan was there to
- 18:27decommission it. Elon Musk's didn't state a time
- 18:30frame. He said immediately, but who
- 18:34knows what crafts he was talking about.
- 18:38And this is because I have covered SpaceX for the last five
- 18:41years and know the insurance and outs of the company.
- 18:43And you know what they're what the briefing briefings are and
- 18:46what has been talked about the Dragon spacecraft, the newer
- 18:49versions will stick around. The older versions
- 18:51decommissioned. So maybe Elon Musk was talking
- 18:55about that. And maybe this was what some
- 18:57people feel internally at Tesla. They feel that this was all
- 19:03smoke and mirrors to get Elon's companies back on track.
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- 19:48take care of yourselves. Elon Musk helped finance Donald
- 19:52Trump's return to power with nearly $288 million in
- 19:56donations. Now, less than six months later,
- 19:59Musk is watching then investment destabilize his whole empire.
- 20:03Now the alliance between the two men began as a mutual beneficial
- 20:07transaction. Musk funneled money into
- 20:10Republican campaigns and super PAC's, betting on Trump's re
- 20:13election to secure policy advantages and also business
- 20:17leverage. Tesla stocks surged after
- 20:19Trump's victory in November, SpaceX faced fewer regulatory
- 20:23hurdles, and Musk's influence in Washington reached a new peak.
- 20:27Now, after a sudden and ugly public fallout, the billionaire
- 20:31is totally exposed. Trump threatened to cancel
- 20:34federal contracts tied to Musk's companies.
- 20:37That threat carries real consequences because Musk relies
- 20:40heavily on government funding and Trump has the tools to
- 20:44interfere. Now, the White House holds
- 20:47discretionary control over billions in federal contracts
- 20:50and tax credits. Trump reminded Musk of that
- 20:53power in a statement last week, warning of very serious
- 20:56consequences if Musk supported Democrats.
- 20:59Now, Musk hasn't endorsed anyone for 2028, but he has hinted at
- 21:05starting his own third party. But the comment, according to
- 21:09sources close to the administration, irritated Donald
- 21:12Trump, who views political loyalty as transactional.
- 21:16Musk tried to dial things down over the weekend but deleted a
- 21:18series of attacks he posted about Trump on X.
- 21:22But the damage has already been spreading across Musk's business
- 21:25empire. SpaceX, Tesla all feeling it.
- 21:29But Tesla lost $34 billion in market value after the feud
- 21:33became public, according to Bloomberg's Billionaires Index.
- 21:38The loss is the second biggest single week decline in the
- 21:41index's history. The sell off erased months of
- 21:44gains and rattled Tesla shareholders, many of whom have
- 21:47grown frustrated with Musk's political distractions.
- 21:50And Tesla shares are down more than 20% this year, and it's
- 21:54quarterly profits fell 71% compared to the same period last
- 21:57year. Analysts traced the slide to
- 22:00slumping EV demand and political backlash.
- 22:02And Trump's new tax plan aims to eliminate the $7500 EV credit,
- 22:08which is a move that could cost Tesla $1.2 billion in annual
- 22:13revenues, according to JP Morgan.
- 22:16Tesla's financial downturn comes as Musk faces mounting federal
- 22:20scrutiny. The National Highway Traffic
- 22:22Safety Administration recently asked Tesla to provide detailed
- 22:26plans for its robo taxi launch, citing safety concerns.
- 22:30Now, the company has several active investigations related to
- 22:33its Autopilot and Full Self Driving software going on.
- 22:36And these probes began under the Biden administration but also
- 22:40remain ongoing under Trump. And if Trump decides to increase
- 22:45pressure, he has tools to stall permits or ramp up regulatory
- 22:49reviews. That creates more unnecessary
- 22:53uncertainty for Tesla at a moment when investors are
- 22:56already uneasy. Meanwhile, Elon Musk is
- 22:58attempting to shift public focus back to the product side.
- 23:02Tesla's preferring to unveil his robotaxi in Austin this week.
- 23:06And Musk has teased this event on X, claiming the company is
- 23:09now testing self driving. Model Y is in the streets.
- 23:13He hopes the launch will improve sentiment around Tesla and
- 23:16rebuild investor confidence, but internal pressure is mounting.
- 23:20A coalition of activist shareholders sent a letter last
- 23:23week to Tesla's board chair demanding that must commit at
- 23:26least 40 hours per week to Tesla alone, and the group accused him
- 23:30of neglecting his duties while chasing political ambitions and
- 23:34running unrelated businesses. Brad Lander, who overseas the
- 23:37New York City public pension system, criticized Musk's recent
- 23:41actions after Thursday's Tesla stock drop.
- 23:44The pension fund, which holds more than 3,000,000 Tesla
- 23:47shares, lost over $150 million in one day.
- 23:52Lander, who is also running for New York City mayor, called the
- 23:55feud a disaster and said Musk's political obsession has created
- 23:59direct financial harm to many investors.
- 24:03His comments reflect growing discontent among institutional
- 24:06shareholders, who once praised Musk's risk taking but now see
- 24:10it as erratic and also see him as a reckless individual.
- 24:16And beyond Tesla, Musk's other companies face similar threats
- 24:19from Donald Trump. SpaceX relies on federal
- 24:22contracts to launch NASA astronauts and Pentagon
- 24:24satellites. Trump's threat to cancel those
- 24:26contracts sent a chill through SpaceX.
- 24:30Officials at NASA and the Department of Defense privately
- 24:33acknowledged that terminating existing SpaceX deals would be
- 24:37logistically difficult. Still, they have started urging
- 24:40competitors to accelerate development as a hedge.
- 24:44SpaceX remains the only active U.S. company with the ability to
- 24:48launch humans into space, but officials say they do not want
- 24:52to be held hostage by 1 supplier Now.
- 24:56Analyst Ross Gerber, a longtime Musk supporter turned critic,
- 25:00estimates that SpaceX would lose half its valuation if it lost
- 25:04access to federal money. The company has built a
- 25:06lucrative commercial business, but it's more consistent and
- 25:09high paying client is still the US government.
- 25:12Any disruption in those contracts would ripple through
- 25:16Musk's entire operation from Starlink expansion to Starship
- 25:21development. Gerber also warned that Musk's
- 25:24current behavior is damaging relationships with regulators
- 25:28and customers. He reduced his Tesla stake last
- 25:30week. Suddenly that he called Musk
- 25:32self-destructive leadership style.
- 25:35And I don't know if you remember this, but at the beginning of
- 25:38Starship development, the FAA and SpaceX were always kind of
- 25:43at odds. SpaceX would be done with a part
- 25:47of the mission so they could fly the actual ship, but it would
- 25:50take the FAA months to regulate that one launch and they went
- 25:56through numerous cycles of a Starship in one go from the FAA.
- 26:02So if anything happens with this administration to slow down
- 26:07Starship development, that means that SpaceX and NASA won't be
- 26:10getting astronauts to the moon anytime soon if they delay
- 26:16Starships. Now, let me let me back this up
- 26:20a little bit. SpaceX will need to test 100
- 26:24Starships before they get to the moon.
- 26:26They need to be able to refuel in orbit.
- 26:28They need to be able to orbit the Earth properly.
- 26:31They need to be able to get a Starship to the moon, land it on
- 26:34the moon, and then take off from the moon into lunar orbit, where
- 26:39they will meet up with another craft and that craft will take
- 26:44the astronauts back down to Earth.
- 26:46Now, if they're slowed down Spacex's Lander, the lunar
- 26:50Starship, the HLS contract Starship is slowed down a
- 26:54development cycle. This means that SpaceX probably
- 26:57won't get to the moon in the next 6-7 years, and that's not a
- 27:05good thing. SpaceX is on flight 10, next of
- 27:10Starship. The last three flights have been
- 27:12a disaster. There has been explosions of the
- 27:15ship for the last three ship flights.
- 27:17The booster exploded last time because they were pushing it
- 27:20towards its limits and they pushed it past the limits, which
- 27:23was kind of expected. But the ship, they thought they
- 27:26had everything fixed, but apparently either something else
- 27:30was wrong or they didn't have the same problem fixed and the
- 27:34thing exploded. So right now SpaceX is trying to
- 27:41get back into the cycle of actually testing the ships in
- 27:46orbit so they can eventually send it or sorry sorry to
- 27:51orbital velocity until someday they will make Starship in
- 27:55orbit, place it in orbit and they'll orbit the earth a few
- 27:58times and come back down in the ocean probably.
- 28:01So if they can succeed in the next few missions, I can see
- 28:05that happening in the next within the next 5 missions.
- 28:08They are also want to do a star link drop off in space and if
- 28:15they get that done, that's a huge step as well because then
- 28:19they can launch Starships and Starlinks at the same time, make
- 28:22money from the Starlinks and also test Starships at the same
- 28:25time. So when SpaceX is going to do
- 28:30the next round of testing after ship, after the flight 10,
- 28:35flight 11, flight 12, flight 13, we're expecting bigger things
- 28:39from them, more kind of experimental things from them,
- 28:44because right now they just have to make it to orbital velocity
- 28:46and make it back down to the Indian Ocean.
- 28:49But you know, it's not just about SpaceX or Tesla must has a
- 28:53hands and a lot of things, XAI and brain tech from Neuralink
- 28:59also depend on clear pathways through highly regulated,
- 29:02regulated sectors. X AI competes directly with Open
- 29:06AI, Anthropic and Google DeepMind, and all of which have
- 29:10relationships in Washington and teams focused on policy
- 29:12compliance. All of those people in those
- 29:15companies, they're kind of quiet, unlike Elon Musk who
- 29:19likes to speak his mind and likes to be a free speech
- 29:22absolutist. Of course, on X, where he can
- 29:24say anything he wants without repercussions until there are
- 29:28repercussions. And Neuralink, which works on
- 29:32brain computer interfaces, must secure approvals from the Food
- 29:36and Drug Administration and maintain trust with medical
- 29:38institutions. Any perception of political
- 29:41instability at the top of Musk's empire could delay approvals or
- 29:46dry up strategic partnerships. Now, as those sectors mature,
- 29:49though, policy risks will rise because they're going to be
- 29:53doing more invasive and higher tier things, so the policy risks
- 30:03will not fall. And Trump's campaign aligned
- 30:06closely with Musk throughout 2023 and early 2024.
- 30:10And Trump appointed Musk to Lee Doge, which is an economic
- 30:15advisory panel, and he's invited him to many of his events,
- 30:19invited him to Mar a Lago. Tesla was featured prominently
- 30:23during a March White House event celebrating electric vehicles.
- 30:26Trump personally test drove one of the company's red model wise,
- 30:29and he still has it at the White House.
- 30:30He says he's not getting rid of it.
- 30:32The public embrace stood in stark contrast to the Biden
- 30:35administration, which consistently excluded Tesla from
- 30:38clean energy events. Now, the change gave Musk and
- 30:42his company's rear inside track. But that track now looks far
- 30:45more precarious. But it also looks like Elon and
- 30:49Trump may be making up. We're going to keep you abreast
- 30:53of that situation in the few days coming forward.
- 30:56And Musk's original plan was to gain access, reduce regulation
- 31:00and redirect subsidies towards his businesses.
- 31:03And that that unraveled current public feud has not only raised
- 31:07billions in market value for harder hard working people that
- 31:12earn that money to invest in his companies and invest in Elon.
- 31:17Now this is the person that once walked into Washington as a
- 31:21kingmaker. And now he faces potential
- 31:23retaliation from the same system that he tried to game Elon Musk
- 31:30skewed with Donald Trump. And his abrupt exit from federal
- 31:33government role has not slowed down the protest campaign aimed
- 31:36directly at his influence. A Protesters linked to the Tesla
- 31:40takedown movement returned to Tesla showrooms across the
- 31:43country this weekend, continuing their pressure campaign.
- 31:46Despite Musk's withdrawal from the Department of Government
- 31:48efficiency in his fallout with Trump over a massive tax and
- 31:53spending proposal, the central question that keeps fueling this
- 31:56campaign remains clear. Will direct action against Elon
- 31:59Musk's influence affect Tesla's future and public trust and
- 32:03billionaire backed policy now? Musk left DOGE days before
- 32:07calling Trump's tax and domestic agenda a disgusting abomination.
- 32:12Now, despite having donated $288,000,000 to Trump's 2024
- 32:16campaign, that is now. That reversal triggered a public
- 32:19confrontation with Trump threatening to cancel government
- 32:22contracts with SpaceX, Tesla, and other Musk companies.
- 32:26Now, Musk escalated the feud by claiming that Trump wouldn't
- 32:30have won without him. This fight spilled into the
- 32:33streets, where protesters continued targeting Musk's
- 32:36economic and political entanglements.
- 32:39On Saturday, organizers scheduled 60 separate
- 32:42demonstrations under the Tesla takedown banner.
- 32:45The campaign, launched in February during Musk's tenure at
- 32:48DOGE, urges Tesla owners to sell their vehicles and shareholders
- 32:52to liquidate their stakes. Demonstrations happened in
- 32:55cities from Florida to Kentucky to Georgia, each one demanding
- 32:59public accountability and rejection of what organizers
- 33:02call Musk's grip on policy and technology.
- 33:06Now, a protest outside of Tesla showroom in Washington, DC's
- 33:10Georgetown neighborhood drew about 30 participants despite
- 33:13rain in competition from Pride Month events.
- 33:16Organizers attributed the lower turn out to weather, noting that
- 33:20the previous weekend's event in Rockville, MD, brought in about
- 33:23200 people. They insisted the message still
- 33:27matters even when numbers fluctuate.
- 33:30Protesters claim Musk's departure from DOGE changes
- 33:32nothing above his overall influence.
- 33:36Melissa Nutsen said that Musk going home with his tail between
- 33:40his legs doesn't alter their goal.
- 33:43She repeated the group SCORE message.
- 33:45People should sell their Teslas, divest their stock in protest
- 33:49until Musk no longer holds any public power.
- 33:54Now, they claim that opposing Musk is necessary to protect
- 33:57democratic systems and public well-being.
- 34:01Tesla's financial performance added momentum to this campaign,
- 34:04and the company reported a 13% drop in vehicle deliveries in
- 34:08Q1, which is the worst in its history.
- 34:11Tesla stock fell 14% this week and remains 47% below is
- 34:15December high. Now, these protesters have said
- 34:19that seeing the stock fall boosted the morale at the
- 34:22Israelis, reinforcing their belief that this kind of public
- 34:26pressure is effective against Elon.
- 34:30Now, Musk attributed the drop in sales to weak consumer
- 34:32confidence in a macroeconomic factors, but industry data shows
- 34:37that other EV makers increased deliveries during the same
- 34:40period. That contradiction strengthened
- 34:43the resolve among demonstrators who blame Elon Musk's leadership
- 34:47and behavior for Tesla struggles.
- 34:50Organizers used Musk's departure from Doe's to launch another
- 34:53protest push on social media. They announced that June 28th,
- 34:57which is Elon Musk's birthday, they'll mark another day of
- 35:00protests. They call the upcoming date a
- 35:02recommitment and encourage people to rally even harder.
- 35:07They reiterated that the movement is against the
- 35:10consolidation of political and economic power in the hands of
- 35:13just a few billionaires. Protesters also urged large
- 35:17investment funds to drop Tesla shares.
- 35:19Some cited a May letter from institutional investors to
- 35:23Tesla's board that criticized management decisions and
- 35:26corporate governance. Now these public and private
- 35:29efforts from A2 pronged strategy, eternal pressure and
- 35:34internal financial disruption. Now that's to reduce Elon Musk's
- 35:38overall influence. Longtime protesters say they see
- 35:43no reason to back down. Jean Faris, who's attended her
- 35:46fifth Tesla protest, believes Musk's influence remains strong
- 35:51even without Doge. James Deckard said the
- 35:53gatherings create a sense of motivation and community among
- 35:56critics who want to resist what they see as Musk's control over
- 36:00public priorities. Some see the Musk Trump conflict
- 36:04as irrelevant to the broader protest school.
- 36:07Donna Powell, who has participated in up to 60 anti
- 36:11Trump rallies, described Musk and Trump as quote, billionaire
- 36:15brats having a tiff quote. She dismissed the idea that
- 36:19Trump supporters would shift their stance to join the
- 36:21protests against Musk, suggesting the president's base
- 36:25remains unmoved. Now, her husband, Don Powell,
- 36:30argued that the rivalry between Trump and Musk won't last.
- 36:34They predicted that both men will eventually reconcile
- 36:37because their interests align. Protesters on the ground believe
- 36:41that the underlying structures keeping people like Musk in
- 36:43positions of power have not changed, even as political
- 36:48alliances will shift. Some people think that the rift
- 36:53between Elon Musk and President Donald Trump is simply a
- 36:58distraction from something that's going on deeper in the
- 37:01government. Is there something that they're
- 37:03hiding? We don't really know, but that's
- 37:07what some protesters believe. Maybe there's something going on
- 37:09with DOGE that we shouldn't know about now.
- 37:12Musk has not responded to inquiries about the protests or
- 37:15his exit from DOGE from this podcast.
- 37:18Neither has Tesla nor early Tesla takedown organizers now.
- 37:22That silence has not stopped the movement, though.
- 37:25Organizers say they are already planning the next round of
- 37:28demonstrations and encourage supporters to take more
- 37:31aggressive action before the next corporate earnings report.
- 37:35Will you be there at the protests?
- 37:37Let me know what you think. If your podcast platform has
- 37:40comments, I want to hear it. Let's have a discussion about
- 37:43this. Want to know what you think
- 37:45about Elon Musk and if you have soured on the idea of Elon Musk,
- 37:51That's a great conversation to have.
- 37:53I know a lot of people have in my circle, and some people,
- 37:56they're completely behind the guy.
- 37:59So let me know what you think in the comments on whatever podcast
- 38:02platform you're on right now. Now the Tesla takedown protests
- 38:06continue despite leadership changes and political infighting
- 38:10because organizers believe that Musk's influence still poses the
- 38:15huge direct threat to democratic policy and also market
- 38:21integrity. What will happen at the next
- 38:24Musk protest on his birthday? Will it be peaceful?
- 38:29Will there be Tesla showrooms caught on fire again?
- 38:34Just have to wait and find out. June 28th, Musk's birthday.
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- 38:42second and hit the subscribe or follow button.
- 38:44And also, if you have a like button, that'd be great.
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- 38:50you haven't given us a review, I'd really appreciate it if you
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- 38:59I'd really appreciate it. We really need that right now.
- 39:02The president of the United States has just threatened a
- 39:06private citizen. Donald Trump told Elon Musk to
- 39:09expect very serious consequences if he funds political candidates
- 39:15that Trump poses. Now, this threat didn't come
- 39:18through a leak or some sort of back channel message.
- 39:22It came directly from the president himself during a phone
- 39:25interview with NB CS Kristen Welker.
- 39:27Now, that message followed a series of public jabs between
- 39:30the two men revealing a larger question.
- 39:33What happens when the President Donald Trump threatens to
- 39:36retaliate against a private citizen for political donations?
- 39:41Trump's threat wasn't vague, though.
- 39:43In a Thursday post, he suggested cutting off federal contracts
- 39:46and subsidies to Musk's companies as a budget saving
- 39:50measure. That post followed Musk's public
- 39:53criticism of the GOP's latest budget legislation and his call
- 39:57to vote out incumbents in 2026. Elon also followed the idea of
- 40:01launching a new political party to represent the 80% in the
- 40:04middle. Trump responded within days,
- 40:06warning that if Musk backs Democratic candidates in the
- 40:08midterms, he'll suffer unspecified consequences now.
- 40:13The president didn't explain what those would be, but
- 40:15insisted they'd be very serious. Now, Musk donated at least
- 40:19$288,000,000 to support Trump and other Republicans during the
- 40:232024 election cycle, according to campaign finance reports that
- 40:28some made him the most influential financial backer in
- 40:31GOP circles last year. Now his abrupt threat to
- 40:35redirect support away from the party or possibly fund third
- 40:39party or Democratic candidates has triggered Donald Trump's
- 40:42escalated warnings. Now, the message that Donald
- 40:45Trump is sending is that loyalty is transactional, and switching
- 40:50sides comes with penalties. Trump's tactics have created
- 40:54unease even among some of his political allies.
- 40:57Federal subsidies have played a major role in sustaining Musk's
- 41:01companies. SpaceX receives billions through
- 41:04NASA contracts, and Tesla benefits from energy credits and
- 41:08tax incentives tied to its EVs. Now, cutting those off would
- 41:12have tangible effects on operations, investors and jobs.
- 41:16The threat was targeted directly to Elon Musk and his finances
- 41:21and his businesses. In a private discussions with
- 41:24donors, Trump has emphasized his preference for transactional
- 41:27politics. Sources familiar with the
- 41:30situation say that Trump views financial loyalty as a
- 41:33cornerstone of his political machine.
- 41:36That makes Musk's dissent unusually dangerous, in Trump's
- 41:40view. Musk, who once boasted of being
- 41:42a free speech absolutist, has found herself caught between
- 41:46asserting political independence and preserving access to
- 41:49government resources for him and also his companies.
- 41:54Now the dynamic matters to everybody.
- 41:57Beyond personal grudges. Tech, CE, OS and federal
- 42:00officials are always navigating a new era of policy influence
- 42:04right now, where access and funding increasingly depend on
- 42:07personal relationships rather than traditional lobbying or
- 42:11merit. It looks like handshake deals
- 42:12are happening throughout Trump's administration.
- 42:15Musk had enjoyed a period of influence under Trump, including
- 42:19friendly meetings and favorable public comments staying at
- 42:23Trump's estates. Now that influence is completely
- 42:26gone. It's evaporated.
- 42:28Other tech leaders see this as an opportunity to fill the void,
- 42:31though. Executives of companies like
- 42:33Palantir and Andrill, both heavily defense focused, see a
- 42:38pathway to gain favor with the administration.
- 42:41Industry sources say these firms are already increasing the
- 42:43federal lobbying efforts, giving more and more money, and
- 42:46positioning themselves as alternative to Elon Musk.
- 42:50Now. Mehta's leadership has also
- 42:52shifted its political tone, aligning more closely with
- 42:54Trump's rhetoric in recent months.
- 42:56Musk's misstep could create room for new favourites of Trump to
- 43:01emerge now. Musk, standing at Silicon
- 43:03Valley, had already begun to erode due to his erratic
- 43:06published statements and inconsistent business focuses
- 43:08recently. And while respected for
- 43:10engineering successes and managing Tesla and SpaceX, he's
- 43:14frustrated partners and investors with unpredictable
- 43:17behavior and unkept promises. And losing Trump's favor could
- 43:22further isolate him, especially if his corporate empire becomes
- 43:25the target of scrutiny for Trump's administration.
- 43:29One consequence of this view is the potential change in US space
- 43:32policy. SpaceX currently dominates
- 43:35government satellite launches and space logistics, and federal
- 43:38agencies begin to shift contracts toward Blue Origin.
- 43:41Who's Jeff Bezos? His space venture.
- 43:43He could benefit handsomely. Sources familiar with NASA's
- 43:47current contract review process say the agency exploring ways to
- 43:51diversify launch providers and light of political risk
- 43:54associated with single vendor dependency, such as SpaceX, now
- 43:58open AI, who of course Elon has been warring with for a while.
- 44:03Sam Altman stands to benefit from the political fallout as
- 44:06well. Although Altman has his own
- 44:08ongoing feud with Elon Musk, he has navigated the post election
- 44:12power structure with more discretion.
- 44:15He repurposed a large scale data center initiative as a federal
- 44:18infrastructure project and secured a White House photo op
- 44:21shortly after Trump's inauguration.
- 44:23His strategy earned him credibility inside the
- 44:25administration without attracting Musk style
- 44:28controversy. Now, the silence from other tech
- 44:33leaders speaks volumes. Here, most prefer to avoid
- 44:37choosing sides in the political feud that could affect federal
- 44:40contracts and our trust actions or export licenses.
- 44:43Many executives are quietly hopeful the Musk's departure
- 44:47from Trump's inner circle will ease policy negotiations and
- 44:50create a more predictable business environment for their
- 44:53companies. Now the administration's
- 44:55treatment of Musk reveals how Trump views power and loyalty,
- 44:59sees wealth and influence as useful tools when they serve his
- 45:02political goals, and his liabilities when they don't
- 45:05serve him anymore. Musk helped fuel the Republican
- 45:09campaign in 2024, but in 2026, that might not be enough to
- 45:15shield him from Donald Trump's retribution.
- 45:19Trump's message is very blunt. You can fund the opposition, but
- 45:26it will cost you. What happens when the personal
- 45:29feud between AUS president and the world's most powerful
- 45:33private space executive threatens the stability of
- 45:36American space infrastructure? That question now looms over the
- 45:40relationship between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
- 45:44Tensions escalated after Trump publicly criticized Musk,
- 45:48calling him a disappointment despite claiming he had helped
- 45:51him significantly. Musk responded by threatening to
- 45:54pull Spacex's Dragon spacecraft from NASA service, an abrupt
- 45:58move that could have impacted core US space missions.
- 46:01Even though Musk walked back the threat within hours, the damage
- 46:04had already been done. Both NASA and the White House
- 46:07now face new uncertainty over one of their most vital private
- 46:10sector partnerships. SpaceX is not just a contractor
- 46:14for NASA, it is the only company currently transporting
- 46:17astronauts to and from the International Space Station
- 46:21using US based infrastructure. The Dragon spacecraft has become
- 46:25essential to America's human spaceflight capability.
- 46:28Since the retirement of the space shuttle, NASA has relied
- 46:31on Spacex's vehicles to carry US and Allied astronauts into low
- 46:35Earth orbit. No other American company offers
- 46:38this service at the same frequency, reliability and cost.
- 46:43Pulling Dragon out of the lineup, even temporarily, would
- 46:46leave a major gap in crew transport capabilities.
- 46:49After years of using a monopoly provider, United Launch
- 46:52Alliance, a Boeing and Lockheed Martin merger, NASA opened up
- 46:55competition to reduce costs and attract innovation.
- 46:59SpaceX quickly underbid its rivals by reducing launch and
- 47:02spacecraft development costs. The Dragon capsule alone came in
- 47:06under budget, falling from initial billion dollar estimates
- 47:09to hundreds of millions. That allowed NASA to shift to a
- 47:12pay for service model, outsourcing missions to private
- 47:15companies rather than managing the entire stack internally.
- 47:19Over time, NASA funneled more money into SpaceX projects.
- 47:23Since 2008, U.S. government agencies have awarded SpaceX
- 47:27over $20 billion in contracts. Of that, NASA accounts for more
- 47:32than $15 billion, including $2.9 billion for developing a human
- 47:37landing system for the Artemis moon missions and another $4.9
- 47:42billion for ferrying astronauts to and from the ISS.
- 47:46The financial arrangement is mutually beneficial.
- 47:49Musk recently stated that SpaceX will generate $1.1 billion in
- 47:53revenue from NASA this year alone.
- 47:56SpaceX has also stepped in when other government contractors
- 47:59failed. Last year, NASA selected SpaceX
- 48:02to retrieve 2 stranded astronauts from the ISS after
- 48:06Boeing's Starliner capsule encountered delays and technical
- 48:09issues. The decision signaled more than
- 48:11just confidence in SpaceX. It reinforced NASA's practical
- 48:15reliance on Musk's company to keep key missions operational.
- 48:18That kind of trust doesn't emerge overnight.
- 48:21It reflects years of successful launches and dependable delivery
- 48:24on complex missions. Spacex's role extends far beyond
- 48:28human spaceflight. The company is conducting more
- 48:30launches per year than any other private or government player.
- 48:33In the last 12 months, SpaceX launched nearly twice as many
- 48:37missions as the next three most active launch providers
- 48:40combined. Those missions support
- 48:42commercial satellite clients, internal Starlink deployments
- 48:45and military payloads. The volume of flights ensures
- 48:49SpaceX dominates launch cadence, giving it logistical leverage
- 48:52unmatched by competitors. The Starlink satellite Internet
- 48:56network adds a second layer of strategic value.
- 48:59Starlink connects everything from remote government sites to
- 49:02active military zones. One of its most visible uses has
- 49:05been in Ukraine, where defense officials have relied on
- 49:08Starlink to maintain communications amid Russian
- 49:11attacks on infrastructure. That application turned Starlink
- 49:14into a high interest asset for the Pentagon and other NATO
- 49:17partners. Beyond defense consulting firm
- 49:20Quilty Space projects that Starlink will generate $12.3
- 49:24billion in revenue for SpaceX this year, making it a financial
- 49:28cornerstone that doesn't depend on federal budgets.
- 49:32Spacex's footprint across federal agencies keeps
- 49:34expanding. The company is integrated into
- 49:37planning for future Department of Defense missions with a $6
- 49:39billion contract awarded in April 2025 for satellite
- 49:43launches. NASA also selected SpaceX to
- 49:46deorbit the ISS at the end of its operational life in 20-30.
- 49:50Meanwhile, the Trump administration considered a
- 49:52SpaceX proposal for a missile defense system nicknamed Golden
- 49:56Dome, which would combine ground based interceptors with
- 50:00satellite capabilities. The proposal hasn't been
- 50:02finalized, but national security officials believe SpaceX is a
- 50:06likely partner because of its unmatched launch capacity and
- 50:09ongoing development of Starship, a heavy lift vehicle built for
- 50:13large scale missions. The idea of Musk pulling SpaceX
- 50:17out of U.S. government work over political tensions isn't just
- 50:20unlikely, it would also run counter to his business goals.
- 50:23SpaceX is deeply embedded in the architectures of future American
- 50:26space exploration and defense operations.
- 50:29Unwinding that integration would disrupt multiple long term
- 50:32projects including Mars related missions, commercial lunar
- 50:36contracts, and military communications satellites.
- 50:39Musk continues to promote a long term goal of making humanity a
- 50:42multi planetary species, which aligns with Spacex's deep
- 50:46government ties. NASA officials believe a total
- 50:49severing of ties is improbable. While increasing competition
- 50:53remains a long term objective, few companies are positioned to
- 50:57compete with SpaceX on price, speed, and scale.
- 51:01Even Musk acknowledges the need for rivals, but those rivals
- 51:05will take years to match his lead.
- 51:08Until then, NASA and the Department of Defense will
- 51:11continue relying on SpaceX for the missions they cannot yet
- 51:15outsource to others. A NASA spokesperson stated that
- 51:18the agency will continue fulfilling the president's
- 51:20objectives in space by partnering with private
- 51:23industry, including SpaceX. That statement affirms that
- 51:26despite any political friction, the agency sees no short term
- 51:30alternatives to its collaboration with Musk's
- 51:32company.