Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 988: Foundations - Learn to Use All Types of Weather to Kill Big Bucks
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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- 0:14Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
- 0:19Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
- 0:23Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
- 0:25Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today is all about weather, white tails,
- 0:28Speaker 2: and how we often think about them wrong. I know
- 0:35Speaker 2: this might seem like a weird time of year for
- 0:37Speaker 2: this type of podcast, but it's not, or at least
- 0:38Speaker 2: I don't think it is. White tails and thoughts about
- 0:41Speaker 2: weather go hand in hand, but we often use whether
- 0:43Speaker 2: as a reason to either hunt or not. I don't
- 0:46Speaker 2: think it's that simple, though. I think it goes a
- 0:48Speaker 2: little deeper than that. And the truth is that if
- 0:50Speaker 2: you want to kill big whitetails, you need to understand
- 0:52Speaker 2: not only what specific weather might do to the deer,
- 0:54Speaker 2: but what they do to us is hunters, which might
- 0:57Speaker 2: be the most important part. A couple of weeks ago,
- 1:04Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time looking at the ten
- 1:05Speaker 2: day forecast for two reasons The first one was that
- 1:08Speaker 2: if I could find a window of time to bring
- 1:09Speaker 2: my daughter to Wisconsin for a few days, I was
- 1:12Speaker 2: going to try to scrounge up a late season four
- 1:14Speaker 2: key for her. The second was that I was headed
- 1:16Speaker 2: into the Superior National Forest in northern Minnesota to hunt
- 1:19Speaker 2: grouse for a few days by sled dog, where my
- 1:22Speaker 2: home base would be a tent. Now, for my listeners
- 1:25Speaker 2: who don't know what northern Minnesota is like in the December,
- 1:28Speaker 2: I'll give you a quick rundown just in case you
- 1:30Speaker 2: get invited to go camping there this time of year.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Don't just kidding. If you like sled dogs, which I
- 1:36Speaker 2: now do since I'm an official musher kind of, and
- 1:39Speaker 2: you like being very far away from nearly all of
- 1:42Speaker 2: the people, which I do since I'm old enough and
- 1:45Speaker 2: jaded enough on life now to know really really like
- 1:48Speaker 2: not having to do with people. The tax you'll pay
- 1:51Speaker 2: is that you might wake up, you know, for multiple
- 1:53Speaker 2: days in a row, in the middle of the night,
- 1:54Speaker 2: with a small black lab in your sleeping bag and
- 1:57Speaker 2: ice on just about everything in your tent, including hearts
- 2:00Speaker 2: of your body. Plus if it's super cold, the grouse
- 2:03Speaker 2: hunting will be absolutely terrible, So don't do it or
- 2:07Speaker 2: do I don't care, But that hunt and the fact
- 2:10Speaker 2: that we got snowed out of Wisconsin's Forky Mission reminded
- 2:13Speaker 2: me something about white tails. The weather's just omnipresent. It's
- 2:18Speaker 2: kind of like when people talk about going on a diet,
- 2:20Speaker 2: but your diet is really just what you eat all
- 2:23Speaker 2: the time. It's with you every day, and it shapes
- 2:25Speaker 2: an awful lot about your life, including all your shape.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I don't know what the actual number is, but I
- 2:31Speaker 2: feel like the weather messes up my hunting plans at
- 2:33Speaker 2: least fifty percent of the time. Sometimes it feels a
- 2:36Speaker 2: lot higher than that. And it's not because I live
- 2:39Speaker 2: in Canada South, which feels really really stupid this time
- 2:42Speaker 2: of year, because everywhere you go people bitch about the weather.
- 2:45Speaker 2: You know, it's unpredictable and generally shitty, probably because the
- 2:48Speaker 2: places with truly beautiful, consistent weather are full of people
- 2:52Speaker 2: who can afford to live there and who do not
- 2:54Speaker 2: generally spend a lot of time trying to shoot sharp
- 2:56Speaker 2: sticks through Bambi's dad. Let me give you a good
- 2:59Speaker 2: exam from my fall on this very topic. The week
- 3:03Speaker 2: before I left for North Dakota to try to find
- 3:05Speaker 2: some good bucks on public land. The area I hunt
- 3:08Speaker 2: got hit with a bonker's rainstorm. Now this is a
- 3:12Speaker 2: place where you can find genuine although pretty small cactus
- 3:16Speaker 2: growing in the same spots the meal deer and sharp
- 3:18Speaker 2: tails hangout, and where my buddy Eric once sat on
- 3:21Speaker 2: one a cactus I mean, not amelia or a sharpie.
- 3:24Speaker 2: The river out there, which I usually crossed daily when
- 3:27Speaker 2: I'm hunting there, went from a foot and a half
- 3:29Speaker 2: to five feet, which is a hell of a spring surge,
- 3:33Speaker 2: let alone a mid October surge. I followed the river
- 3:36Speaker 2: flow data out there by the day, and while it
- 3:38Speaker 2: came back down to the three foot range, it was
- 3:41Speaker 2: a no go for the deer to cross, except for
- 3:43Speaker 2: one good buck that forwarded that river and showed me
- 3:46Speaker 2: everything I needed to know about how I was not
- 3:48Speaker 2: going to cross it. If a critter with four legs
- 3:52Speaker 2: can barely make it, a critter with two in the
- 3:54Speaker 2: dark is going for a swim. The entire plan I
- 3:58Speaker 2: had built around that hunt chained twenty four hour period
- 4:01Speaker 2: of freakish weather the week before, which leads me to
- 4:05Speaker 2: the point I really want to make with this podcast,
- 4:07Speaker 2: which is this. The messaging you've been fed about weather
- 4:12Speaker 2: is to just wait out very specific conditions and then
- 4:15Speaker 2: go hunting. That messaging comes from people who have made
- 4:19Speaker 2: millions off of hunters and who have hunting that you
- 4:22Speaker 2: couldn't even dream of. There is no net loss for
- 4:25Speaker 2: them to not go hunting, and the easiest way for
- 4:28Speaker 2: them to kill big bucks and properties that literally no
- 4:30Speaker 2: one else will hunt is to wait for the seasonal
- 4:33Speaker 2: timing to meet up with a cold front, which all
- 4:35Speaker 2: of the a sudden just coalesces into one big deer
- 4:38Speaker 2: movement festival for them. That like the idea that everyone
- 4:42Speaker 2: can just age deer by looking at them as if
- 4:44Speaker 2: deer all have the same body structure and shape, has
- 4:47Speaker 2: maybe been the most damaging thing to the general deer
- 4:50Speaker 2: hunting population.
- 4:51Speaker 3: And here's why.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Because that cold front won't negate the fact that you've
- 4:55Speaker 2: overhunted your spot, or won't allow you to hunt a
- 4:59Speaker 2: question win just because the deer should be moving given
- 5:02Speaker 2: the weather.
- 5:03Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way.
- 5:05Speaker 2: The people who feed us that message can walk in
- 5:07Speaker 2: on carefully groomed access trails to sit airtight box blinds
- 5:11Speaker 2: or stands with perfect winds, and they have enough options
- 5:14Speaker 2: where they don't need to burn anything out. Do you
- 5:17Speaker 2: have that, Because if you don't, learning to hunt with
- 5:20Speaker 2: the weather you're given is a huge advantage. Think about
- 5:23Speaker 2: it this way, who are the people you really look
- 5:26Speaker 2: up to who kill good deer on public land? For
- 5:30Speaker 2: this conversation, forget about people who kill big ones on
- 5:32Speaker 2: private and instead just think about some of the public
- 5:35Speaker 2: land killers. Now filter them down a little further and
- 5:39Speaker 2: forget about the people who are public land killers but
- 5:42Speaker 2: generally only in their home state. Take someone who usually
- 5:46Speaker 2: gets it done on the road on public land, you know,
- 5:49Speaker 2: the kind of land, as the locals will often say,
- 5:51Speaker 2: it can't be done on the Andy Mays of the world,
- 5:53Speaker 2: the zach Fahrenbau's of the world. Those kind of guys.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Do you think they've become successful at this stuff by
- 5:59Speaker 2: city out hunting until the right cold front hit and
- 6:02Speaker 2: then going in spoiler alert, They didn't. They have gone
- 6:07Speaker 2: on many, many trips, often short ones, to parts unknown
- 6:12Speaker 2: and not only had to figure out the deer and
- 6:14Speaker 2: the whole hunting pressure thing, but work with whatever weather
- 6:17Speaker 2: they were handed at the time. Now, if you do
- 6:20Speaker 2: that enough, you start to realize that what you consider
- 6:23Speaker 2: bad deer weather is just weather, and the deer are
- 6:26Speaker 2: still out there doing their thing, and your job is
- 6:28Speaker 2: to figure out how to make that work for you.
- 6:31Speaker 2: It's simple and principle, but very hard for most hunters
- 6:34Speaker 2: to even attempt. And here's why. We don't like to
- 6:38Speaker 2: be miserable, and we don't like to hunt when we
- 6:40Speaker 2: have low confidence.
- 6:42Speaker 3: Trust me, I get it.
- 6:44Speaker 2: I just spent several nights in a tent twenty five
- 6:46Speaker 2: miles from the Canadian border, where I found far more
- 6:49Speaker 2: wolf tracks than grouse tracks. Being uncomfortable sucks, and I
- 6:53Speaker 2: think that factors into our hunting decisions more than what
- 6:56Speaker 2: we actually believe the deer will be doing. I'll give
- 6:59Speaker 2: you an easy one here. I've talked about this a lot.
- 7:02Speaker 2: People don't like deer hunting when it's hot out early season,
- 7:05Speaker 2: mid season, during the rut, whenever. The general consensus is
- 7:09Speaker 2: that the deer won't be moving, but that's dumb. It's
- 7:13Speaker 2: also commonly stated that the meat is far more likely
- 7:16Speaker 2: to spoil if you hunt when it's hot, but that's
- 7:17Speaker 2: dumb too. Take good shots, give it your best recovery efforts.
- 7:22Speaker 2: You'll be just fine. But what's really happening is that
- 7:25Speaker 2: people don't want to hunt when it's hot, so they
- 7:27Speaker 2: find reasons not to.
- 7:29Speaker 3: That's fine, you do, you boo.
- 7:31Speaker 2: But if you want to kill more and bigger deer,
- 7:33Speaker 2: you might want to figure out how to hunt during
- 7:35Speaker 2: whether that you are certain to get every single season.
- 7:39Speaker 2: I killed a decent eight pointer in my home state
- 7:41Speaker 2: of Minnesota this year. They came into a pond here
- 7:44Speaker 2: in the suburbs when it was eighty seven degrees in September.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Now was it comfortable, No, But I knew for a
- 7:52Speaker 2: fact that deer were going to come to that stand
- 7:55Speaker 2: to get a drink, and I was pretty sure a
- 7:57Speaker 2: decent buck would do it. And he did, and he
- 8:00Speaker 2: gave me a twenty two yard shot. And it really
- 8:02Speaker 2: was that simple. Most of my hot weather hunts are
- 8:06Speaker 2: far more productive than my rough hunts because they.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Are so predictable.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Plus a lot of hunters won't go when they perceive
- 8:14Speaker 2: it to be too hot, which gives me another advantage
- 8:17Speaker 2: over the deer movement, because they're going to move more
- 8:19Speaker 2: when there's fewer people out there. It's simple, and I
- 8:22Speaker 2: know I've used that example many times. You don't hear
- 8:25Speaker 2: this as much as you used to, but here's another one.
- 8:27Speaker 2: From time to time I'll hear someone say that it's
- 8:29Speaker 2: too windy to hunt because the deer won't be moving.
- 8:32Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of deer research that refutes that,
- 8:35Speaker 2: and it's also just common sense for an animal that
- 8:38Speaker 2: lives off of its nose the world around them, feeding
- 8:41Speaker 2: them lots of data from a safe distance will override
- 8:45Speaker 2: the negatives of not being able to hear as well
- 8:47Speaker 2: or the visual aspect of it of things moving all
- 8:49Speaker 2: the time in the woods from the wind. Now, wind
- 9:02Speaker 2: also happens to walk in lockstep with fronts, which sure
- 9:06Speaker 2: seem to get the deer moving. Now, A lot of
- 9:08Speaker 2: folks will hunt pre or post frontal conditions, and we
- 9:12Speaker 2: all know why it cou'd be great. But when weather
- 9:15Speaker 2: moves through, it often moves through for a day or two.
- 9:18Speaker 2: What if you're on that Andy May style trip to
- 9:20Speaker 2: somewhere for a long weekend and your timing sucks and
- 9:24Speaker 2: you catch it right in the middle of a front
- 9:25Speaker 2: blowing through. Do you sit it out or try to
- 9:29Speaker 2: figure out where the deer should be going when the
- 9:31Speaker 2: whole thing is blowing through. I honestly think the biggest
- 9:35Speaker 2: thing that my public land hunts taught me is that
- 9:38Speaker 2: if you have a chance to hunt, you should go
- 9:41Speaker 2: because a lot of times when the deer aren't supposed
- 9:43Speaker 2: to be moving, they are moving and they are killable.
- 9:47Speaker 2: And if you go enough when you're not supposed to,
- 9:49Speaker 2: you start to figure out what motivates them to move.
- 9:53Speaker 2: The hot weather water connection is the Kindergarten version of
- 9:56Speaker 2: this because it makes total sense. Frontal weather is a
- 9:59Speaker 2: little bit trickier to figure out, but there will be
- 10:02Speaker 2: general movement even when things are going from bonkers weather
- 10:05Speaker 2: to super calm weather. You also get precipitation with those fronts,
- 10:10Speaker 2: and I have yet to meet a really good deer
- 10:12Speaker 2: hunter who doesn't perk up a little when it's supposed
- 10:14Speaker 2: to rain. Some my absolute favorite conditions from the season
- 10:18Speaker 2: opener until the rut dies down involve light rain. Always now,
- 10:23Speaker 2: heavy downpour type of rain is a different story, but
- 10:26Speaker 2: steady or light rain is just a gift that keeps
- 10:28Speaker 2: on giving. And if you do get that downpour, it
- 10:31Speaker 2: usually doesn't last super long. And when that thing slows
- 10:35Speaker 2: down a little bit, lightens up a little bit, you
- 10:38Speaker 2: better get your ass than that stand. We know this stuff,
- 10:41Speaker 2: and in some conditions people are far more likely to
- 10:43Speaker 2: hunt than in others. But I guess my whole point
- 10:46Speaker 2: of this is that the best way to learn about
- 10:48Speaker 2: what the deer actually do, not what we want them
- 10:50Speaker 2: to do, because enough people have repeated certain things, is
- 10:53Speaker 2: to go out there and get some proof. You might think,
- 10:56Speaker 2: can I just do that, you know, while being super
- 10:58Speaker 2: analytical about my trail camera data, I'd say probably not.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Trail cameras are great, but going out and trying to
- 11:06Speaker 2: solve for specific conditions and then seeing what you see
- 11:09Speaker 2: is a whole different thing. Think about it this way.
- 11:13Speaker 2: How often have you hunted and observed something deer wise
- 11:17Speaker 2: that you just didn't expect, something that caught you off guard.
- 11:20Speaker 2: This happens to me all the time, and I've learned
- 11:23Speaker 2: to listen to what the deer tell me instead of
- 11:25Speaker 2: listening to the voice in my head that seems to
- 11:27Speaker 2: know everything but actually doesn't. Think about jumping a buck
- 11:31Speaker 2: walking out in the morning after you've tried to shoot
- 11:34Speaker 2: a dough in early October, or think about that deer
- 11:36Speaker 2: that crossed the road in front of you if you
- 11:39Speaker 2: drove out after an evening hunt that just seemed to
- 11:41Speaker 2: emerge from a little patch of cover that just doesn't
- 11:43Speaker 2: make sense to you. The deer show us a lot,
- 11:46Speaker 2: and if you're out there when most folks think it's
- 11:48Speaker 2: not worth it, what the deer show you will make
- 11:50Speaker 2: you a far better hunter than the rest of the
- 11:53Speaker 2: folks who know better than to hunt them. I had
- 11:56Speaker 2: an encounter like ten years ago here in the Cities
- 11:58Speaker 2: and a little property during early October, with a really
- 12:02Speaker 2: good buck, like one thirties, and where he came from,
- 12:06Speaker 2: how he skirted my stand, and just the fact that
- 12:08Speaker 2: he was the biggest deer I ever saw in several
- 12:11Speaker 2: years of hunting that property all season long taught me
- 12:14Speaker 2: a lot. I think about that buck every single year,
- 12:18Speaker 2: multiple times, but especially when it's early October and my
- 12:21Speaker 2: hopes aren't all that high. One of the many reasons
- 12:25Speaker 2: we like the ruts so much is because we don't
- 12:27Speaker 2: have to think about things too hard. We don't really
- 12:30Speaker 2: have to fret over the weather and how the deer
- 12:33Speaker 2: will or won't move, even though we definitely pay attention
- 12:36Speaker 2: to the weather during November. But we like simple. We
- 12:39Speaker 2: want most of the riddle to be solved for us
- 12:41Speaker 2: by that insane breeding desire, so we don't have to
- 12:44Speaker 2: work around a bunch of other bs, But the whole
- 12:47Speaker 2: season is dominated by weather and what that brings to
- 12:50Speaker 2: the woods in the form of wind and precipitation and
- 12:53Speaker 2: temperature and barometric pressure. It all affects deer, but the
- 12:57Speaker 2: deer don't have a choice. They live in it and
- 13:00Speaker 2: they have to do their thing. And quite honestly, I
- 13:03Speaker 2: don't think movement in general is impacted by a lot
- 13:06Speaker 2: of the weather as much as we are now. Maybe
- 13:10Speaker 2: you believe me, or maybe you think, wait a minute.
- 13:12Speaker 2: The folks telling me to hunt when the conditions are
- 13:14Speaker 2: perfect consistently tag one eighties and this rando moron doesn't,
- 13:19Speaker 2: So maybe they are right. Maybe they are, But I
- 13:22Speaker 2: can tell you a couple things. Those one hundred and
- 13:24Speaker 2: eighty inch buck killers wouldn't kill those bucks where you
- 13:27Speaker 2: hunt running that same program. There is a huge difference
- 13:30Speaker 2: between doing what you have to in order to kill
- 13:33Speaker 2: giants in a really good spot versus trying to get
- 13:37Speaker 2: better at deer hunting in general when you don't have
- 13:39Speaker 2: access to the best white tail ground in the country
- 13:42Speaker 2: for you and I, the level up game happens by
- 13:45Speaker 2: doing things differently from most people and then trying to
- 13:48Speaker 2: really learn from the deer if the ten day forecast
- 13:53Speaker 2: isn't appealing to you because of whatever weather reason, so
- 13:55Speaker 2: you mostly sit it out. What you'll learn is that
- 13:58Speaker 2: you didn't kill anything because you didn't. Now, maybe your
- 14:01Speaker 2: cameras will be slower then or maybe not, but that
- 14:04Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's a self fulfilling prophecy and it helps
- 14:08Speaker 2: a lot of us sleep at night. But I look
- 14:10Speaker 2: at this just like the value in hunting egg country
- 14:12Speaker 2: in the Midwest and then heading down south for a
- 14:14Speaker 2: big wood swamp hunt, or I don't know, spending your
- 14:17Speaker 2: time sitting over a feeder in the Southeast and then
- 14:20Speaker 2: making a long ass drive to hunt western white tails
- 14:23Speaker 2: where you can't bait and there aren't very many trees
- 14:25Speaker 2: and everything is a thousand times more visible than back home.
- 14:28Speaker 2: You suddenly have to solve for all kinds of new problems,
- 14:31Speaker 2: and that is the key to becoming a better deer hunter.
- 14:34Speaker 2: The main strategy we see these days is to create
- 14:36Speaker 2: a spot that is so appealing to the deer that
- 14:39Speaker 2: they will go there eventually, and then hunt that spot
- 14:41Speaker 2: when things get right. Look, it's a great way to
- 14:44Speaker 2: kill big deer. But if you don't have that or
- 14:46Speaker 2: you don't want that. A good strategy is to challenge
- 14:49Speaker 2: your worldview on white tails that you know, the deer
- 14:52Speaker 2: that you do have access to, and then do some
- 14:55Speaker 2: things differently. The cameraman I had on that ill fated
- 14:58Speaker 2: North Country grouse hunt is fellow named Dylan Lenz, who
- 15:01Speaker 2: I've interviewed on the Wire to Hunt podcast and he's
- 15:04Speaker 2: filmed a lot of whitetail hunts with me, and he's
- 15:06Speaker 2: a really, really good deer hunter. We were talking in
- 15:09Speaker 2: the tent one night about our early years as deer hunters,
- 15:12Speaker 2: and he simply said, I don't know. It's like you
- 15:15Speaker 2: go out and you make mistake after a mistake, and
- 15:16Speaker 2: you keep trying new things until something clicks and you
- 15:19Speaker 2: get a little better at making decisions, and then you
- 15:21Speaker 2: do it again and again. Simple, but he's right. The
- 15:26Speaker 2: more we try, the more we color outside the lines,
- 15:29Speaker 2: the more we learn to find the deer where they
- 15:32Speaker 2: want to be and then go there to hopefully shoot one.
- 15:36Speaker 2: That development doesn't happen when we wait for the best weather,
- 15:39Speaker 2: because even the best weather won't override so many factors
- 15:42Speaker 2: that influence deer movement, not the least of which is
- 15:45Speaker 2: hunting pressure. I think a good way to view this
- 15:48Speaker 2: or for all of us, is, you know, just to
- 15:51Speaker 2: challenge ourselves, especially since not everyone has the means or
- 15:54Speaker 2: time or willingness to travel to new whiteail spots, is
- 15:57Speaker 2: to look at hunting like my black lab looks at
- 16:00Speaker 2: If I say, Sadie, do you want to go hunt
- 16:03Speaker 2: some roosters? She isn't like, hmm, but wait, isn't it
- 16:06Speaker 2: too hot or too windy for pheasant hunting?
- 16:09Speaker 3: She's like, you have no idea? How good of an idea?
- 16:13Speaker 3: That is?
- 16:14Speaker 2: Rain, snow, forty mile per hour, winds, hot, cold, whatever
- 16:17Speaker 2: She's going every time. And honestly, I think that little
- 16:20Speaker 2: lab pup is onto something because I know the more
- 16:23Speaker 2: I hunt deer in weather that I really don't want
- 16:24Speaker 2: to hunt them in, the more deer I see and kill,
- 16:28Speaker 2: and that makes me want to hunt more regardless of
- 16:31Speaker 2: the forecast. It might be too late in the season
- 16:33Speaker 2: for this to matter too much to most of us now,
- 16:36Speaker 2: but you should think about it for next year, the
- 16:39Speaker 2: next ten years.
- 16:39Speaker 3: At least.
- 16:41Speaker 2: The worst it'll happen is that you'll get to hunt more,
- 16:43Speaker 2: and even if you don't kill any more big bucks
- 16:45Speaker 2: right away, you'll still well get to hunt more, and
- 16:49Speaker 2: I promise you you're going to learn a thing or
- 16:51Speaker 2: two about the deer that will help you eventually. That's
- 16:55Speaker 2: it for this week. I'm Tony Peterson and this has
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