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- 0:06PS audiovisual Radio every Wednesday at 19 hours. The protagonist is Argentine cinema.
- 0:13In Julia Montesoro' s eyes, a treasure, a program with a gender
- 0:17perspective that nucleates the country' s film industry. Argentine cinema will never be
- 0:46the one it is until now. We, from audiovisual GPS, continue to
- 0:55bet and believe in the culture as support and sarns of a country, the
- 1:02culture, a culture that is accessible, open, free, that makes us
- 1:10think and that has the support of the State to continue developing welcome audiovisual GPS
- 1:19radio with the journalistic production of Norberto chap and the leadership of those who speak
- 1:25to them, Julia Montesoro, Lucía Poenzo opens tomorrow the impacted his new film,
- 1:34starring Mariana de Girolamo Germán, Palacios, Guillermo fenin osmar Núñez and Moro
- 1:42Angilleri, among others. Take this story that we highly recommend go and see.
- 1:52He takes the viewer on land as such, as a spectator through places
- 2:00that make him, live, relive, feel, share the experience of this
- 2:07protagonist, the physical and emotional disorders that live, fundamentally emotional. This is
- 2:15one of the many things that the impacted achieve. Lucía Puenso Lucía' s
- 2:20film is with us here at the radio studio train topic, starting today'
- 2:25s broadcast of GPS audiovisual Radio. She looked very welcome and thank you so
- 2:31much for joining me. Thank you, Julia, how are you doing?
- 2:35One of the effects of the impacted is that it is a narrative sufficiently diversified
- 2:43to open up to multiple readings. You' re the one you' re
- 2:53staying with. I keep the visual and sound score, which is the impacted
- 2:55ones. What happens to me when I enter a film, but also a
- 2:59novel, a book that I write, is that I have an intuition of
- 3:05where the visual score, the sound score, more than the peripetics and the
- 3:07theme and for me the impacted ones. It was the curiosity to immerse myself
- 3:14and then immerse the viewer in this madness of hyperacute, photophobia, visual auras
- 3:20that suffer those who survive an impact and that' s where we enter him.
- 3:23I' ll take that. That was the starting point then for working
- 3:27with your co- writer. Yes, when Lorena, between a thousand and
- 3:31this plastic artist approached me that first embryo of script, she also gave me
- 3:38pictures of details of those macros, of these marks of lishtamber that are these
- 3:42scars that go through the body of the impacted one, sweeping through the tip,
- 3:46making air and earth. He' s not trying to get out somewhere.
- 3:49And what immanced me most from a beginning is to understand that this drawing
- 3:53imitated the ray that had struck them, the drawing that remains in the body,
- 3:57the impact is exactly the type of stripe and thousands of types of rays
- 4:00and it stays like an x- ray of that ray that chose you,
- 4:03that has this conjunction, that idea of something very medical, very scientific,
- 4:08with a poetic and symbolic idea very forceful. Not that it' s why
- 4:12he chooses you and doesn' t choose me and why he marks your body.
- 4:15So and how literally groove marks of neuroa surcossynaptic that make you no longer
- 4:19the same, nor even if you want it can be the same if they
- 4:25are like tattoos, not so for life, this shocker thing that I,
- 4:30frankly, until you told me these questions, I had no idea that it
- 4:36was happening. I think we all have the idea like he grabs you a
- 4:43rashi and sets you on fire. I don' t know you' re
- 4:46dying and it turns out there' s other issues going around. Not sure,
- 4:48those who are not cremated and do not die enter into this madness that
- 4:53has this strength of being something almost of the order of science, fiction,
- 4:57but completely real, which is what happens to those who survive. Well,
- 5:00I was just going to tell you between those multiple readings, layers offered by
- 5:11the impacted. Somehow you can talk about certain, air of science, fiction
- 5:15or fantastic genre, but it seems to me to be a drama of love.
- 5:20Fundamentally not because the way that lightning passes through this woman, the protagonist,
- 5:29which, on the other hand, is a formidable job. There'
- 5:35s a whole love story there Yeah. We were clear with Lorena. The
- 5:40first thing that happened to us when we started reading stories of survivors is to
- 5:44see that in many of them there were behaviors of their organs that had gone
- 5:48crazy, they were completely others. And we ran into this story of this
- 5:50woman who had had early menopause and who, after the impact, her ovaries
- 5:54began to be fertile. That I had just been a mother a few years
- 5:59ago. Evidently, he hit somewhere in me too and we knew it was
- 6:02the story of this ada character who is playing Mariana and Girólamo who we were
- 6:06going to tell that it was not the story of an entire group impacted,
- 6:10but his story. And very quickly we find this neurologist doctor who acts in
- 6:14the film, in fact, who is the head of neurology of the faithful
- 6:16of Lenny Hospital, who does electroconvulsive therapy in Flenny Hospital, and that she
- 6:21was the one who told us this phrase, which says Germán palaces. In
- 6:24the film there are people who do not respond to the chemical, but it
- 6:27responds to the electrical and began to talk to us about the nobility of electroconvulsive
- 6:31therapies, which are nothing other than the old electroshock that in the sixties and
- 6:34seventies was wreaking havoc, obviously, but that today also has very noble results
- 6:41for those who no longer respond to anything else. And that was a little
- 6:44the gateway to understanding that there are alternative paths, the idea of healing in
- 6:47other ways and the characters of the margins that choose from the margins reinvent themselves.
- 6:54Well, just this woman, the protagonist, in short, is looking
- 7:01to meet. Yeah, she hides a wound from a little girl about how
- 7:06her mom left and what she probably has to do with what she decided to
- 7:10do with her body and she' s kind of like in a limbo.
- 7:14The character when we find him seems not to be very vital, it seems
- 7:18to be in a place that that lightning pulls out, she opens her eyes
- 7:23like a sleeping felia and is and doesn' t know what it is.
- 7:24And we started to understand the movie tells the puzzle of who she was and
- 7:28who she' s going to do. And there, little by little we
- 7:30begin to understand where his wound comes from and how it can be cured.
- 7:33And there' s the cross of that love story that you don' t
- 7:36say, because there' s something about a character who' s going to
- 7:41choose, live, and another character who' s on the way out and
- 7:43they come across each other. Just a little while. The love story is
- 7:45a little while until one decides on one side and the other. But that
- 7:48story is very powerful. I' m not nearly as shocking as this ray
- 7:57that originates the whole story. That' s the story or neo. They
- 8:00like it a lot. I like gender hybrids. I like to write hybrids.
- 8:05I really like the genre. I say suspense, terror, genders in
- 8:07general, give them in college and teach them and also write them down.
- 8:13But they are at an easier point because one stands by the rules of gender
- 8:16and every spectator has them incorporated by the rules of gender, because we grew
- 8:20in gender. Hybrids are harder because you' re walking like you' re
- 8:24on mines. If you put a lot of something, a little something doesn
- 8:28' t work and I like to see and I like to see hybrids.
- 8:30I really like movies that I call hybrid a movie that you go into growing
- 8:33up, which is one thing and the movie suddenly you realize you' re
- 8:37watching another movie. The impacted pass a bit. That could be considered just
- 8:41a thriller, it could even have been a superhero, because there' s
- 8:46something about the impacted that might even have been a Marvel movie that they do
- 8:50and yet it' s looking at the real movie, which is that it
- 8:54' s something else, it' s not accurate. That' s now
- 8:58a look at the female universe as well. Yeah, it' s a
- 9:05feminist movie. She talks a lot about women' s elections, perhaps an
- 9:09atypical place, because maybe she' s not so exposed, because she'
- 9:13s talking about women' s elections. But I do believe that the choice
- 9:16we make with our bodies, even crazy decisions, which sometimes has our body
- 9:22as an early menopause that perhaps is also linked to causes not purely organic,
- 9:26but psychological. Or the decision to maternally or maternally to go or not to
- 9:31go? Breastfeeding or not breastfeeding? All those decisions. Fortunately, today they
- 9:35are decisions, they are not mandates, or they can be, at least
- 9:39in many tribes they can already start making decisions of our bodies. And the
- 9:41film, above all, is which woman chooses to be its protagonist and how,
- 9:46from where she chooses. Monogamy or non monogamy, whether sex or not.
- 9:52Let' s say all that she chooses in the movie has to do
- 9:56with being free. There is a good work, light and sound, very
- 10:03important. Music is also very important in the impacted, but there is in
- 10:11turn a treatment of eroticism in two scenes that are really very very strong,
- 10:18very well played. Not how they worked it, especially in these times when
- 10:24there are even prejudices. I' d tell you how to deal with these
- 10:33relationships. Yes, we were clear that we didn' t want to pasteurize
- 10:37the sex scenes, that they were simply as well lit and sweetened, but
- 10:43that there was something in these knot bodies. The nakedness is very prominent,
- 10:46the organic and the nakedness not only of the humans, but also of the
- 10:50animals, of the impacted not that they play as a very leading role the
- 10:52bodies of animals and humans And from that place we wanted to show them boldly
- 10:58that for me too there is a beauty in the flesh and in eroticism,
- 11:03that it is not pasteurized, that the bodies look like the bodies would be
- 11:07seen in a scene of real life and in that sense, their sex is
- 11:11not entirely harmonious beyond desire. It' s a little clumsy, it'
- 11:16s a little rough. A little bit. Yeah, he' s in
- 11:18the area of what doesn' t end up completely fluid and that' s
- 11:20what we wanted to film. And for that, obviously, we needed actors
- 11:24who would encourage him to go to that degree as a throwaway with his nudity
- 11:28and not to have prejudices when it comes to their bodies looking like that.
- 11:33And I knew that good. I know Mariana first has a pretty good relationship
- 11:37with her nudity, but I' m not just saying take off her clothes
- 11:41as with really going to places of great courage as an actress to play strings
- 11:46that are incomposed or scary to her. And German has that, too,
- 11:52and we, moreover, have known each other for many years. Then there
- 11:54is an intimacy not only of the actors, but of the technical team the
- 12:00actors, not that it is enormous when it comes to filming scenes. Of
- 12:03course, he' s got a lot of weight, a lot of weight.
- 12:05Sure, they' re decision- makers. No, and now the
- 12:11protagonist, why. Mariana. Mariana is the most extraordinary actress I' ve
- 12:16ever met in recent years. I met her doing the Jauría uni and two
- 12:20in the Jauría in the season. One was already a more secondary character.
- 12:24I remember Pablo Larraín. At some point that we were there chatting in the
- 12:28pre- Jauria, he never told me long ago that I didn' t
- 12:31take with an actress like that in Emma, Emma, the classroom, Paula
- 12:35the renema. She' s the protagonist and she' s real. I
- 12:37spent months editing because I edit all the chapters of my series and it'
- 12:43s one shot better than the other. It is impressive the spectrum that already
- 12:46has and this mixture so strange that to me sometimes it makes me remember and
- 12:48on that front that had it on display. Yes, of being very sexual,
- 12:52very sexy, very disturbing and very angelic women like mixtures, very strange,
- 12:58that it is difficult to invent to create it. That is something that
- 13:01the person brings with him, it is like a quality, he enters a
- 13:05room and it is so, it is difficult to read and, at the
- 13:09same time, very close. That' s not what we needed for Fairy
- 13:11' s character, because she' s a little indecipherable. Well, that
- 13:15' s what you see and transmit all the time. They are Hadad'
- 13:20s moods, yes, and that' s how you worked with her,
- 13:28fundamentally good that transmits them with an incredible accuracy, with looks, with the
- 13:33body. She' s an actress who has the quality that I really like.
- 13:37They are actresses and actors who can tell you everything with a look and
- 13:41almost without making any other gestures with their face and, at the same time,
- 13:45in a general plane, at a distance you also understand how you are,
- 13:48because there is something in their body that can also tell you, even
- 13:50if you see it there in the distance as it handles the plane detail and
- 13:56in general, with the same ferocity and understands the cin understands from which place.
- 13:58If it is a general clearing, it has to move in one way
- 14:00and if it is a detailed program, it has to work on a microscopically
- 14:07not that huge graduation that already has in its record and that other eels have
- 14:11it and it also has pipioneto, also has others from the impacted group.
- 14:15For me very valuable, because it allows the cinema that silence, that the
- 14:18cinema does not have to be verborragic and explanatory. I like in general everything
- 14:22that for me is rewrite, of the written word, of literature or of
- 14:26cinema. When we edit is to remove and remove and remove as it says
- 14:31ay, let' s just say put and put not in general, from
- 14:35the first having armed and from the first version of a novel to the last,
- 14:37is the only thing that is to take out, take words, take
- 14:41pictures, take out and purge, until, if you can count without words
- 14:45a scene, we count it like this and there is cast that is easier
- 14:46for you. You have that too, I say a special smell to detect
- 14:56that kind of performance. What these actors can give you, yes. You
- 15:00gotta know who can give that, yeah, well, you got it.
- 15:05Now you' re releasing the hit ones, yes, but you have multiple
- 15:11issues ahead of you. I say another movie, a series next year,
- 15:16a project in the United States. What' s all this, how you
- 15:20manage it looked, because that' s to carry all this forward. Now
- 15:24we' re in the middle of a shoot in Mexico. I came here
- 15:26for a couple of weeks to bring my daughter to school. Starts second grade
- 15:30to release the hit ones and I' ll be back in a week to
- 15:33Oaxaca. We are filming in Chiapas and Oaxaca at the end of a future
- 15:37series. Desert that is for Montigomont, which is like a movie for me,
- 15:41is a very personal project that we wrote with Leonelda Gostino, César Sodero
- 15:45and Nicopudens A, my brother, who is there directing, stayed alone in
- 15:48filming and that we are editing entirely, with my editors, of all life
- 15:52and that we premiere next year. So that' s a project like it
- 15:56' s six long in a short series that I really like, the six
- 15:58- episode series. And yes, and then I have another Netflix series in
- 16:03the middle of the year in Mexico and I' m going to film the
- 16:08holster a part of Pepita' s life with Luisa Anallo Pilate in January,
- 16:11not in January, when the summer ends in Mar de Plata, when the
- 16:15people of Mar de Plata leave in a few months, because it is the
- 16:18Mar del Plata the year for which the 80s did ajá and I hit all
- 16:22that other film in the United States. There, there' s all the
- 16:25shootings, one behind the other you have all timed, a bunch armed,
- 16:30a structure yes, yes, yes, it' s impressive. Well and
- 16:33at this moment, the other day you said in the van premier of the
- 16:37film, which is, it is almost a miracle to premiere at this moment
- 16:42not in theaters, yes, how you are going through this moment of Argentine
- 16:51culture, of Argentine cinema, with a lot of concern. I think it
- 16:53' s historical, it' s unpublished what' s going on. We
- 16:56have had many difficult times to lend, first with this degree of demonization of
- 17:02art and culture, with this degree of disinformation from parts of the government of
- 17:07how it is financed and for what we do cinema. But it' s
- 17:11not just cinema, because the attack is on publishing houses, on the entire
- 17:15cultural industry, against theatre, against health and public education. I say this,
- 17:19the truth is that it is not only against cinema and the method of
- 17:23misinforming, demonizing, choosing symbolic enemies and so on. Nor is it only
- 17:29with cinema, with art and culture. So I think we didn' t
- 17:33even get called on to have a dialogue beyond what we can think differently.
- 17:37On the contrary, just to say our ideas attack us in a way that,
- 17:41as we have seen, then the concern is unprecedented. And now what
- 17:44just happened with the Inca that we have an interventionist who doesn' t even
- 17:48know it' s the cinema, that' s all, would indicate that
- 17:52he' s coming to liquidate the Institute. Yes, well, in this
- 17:56context, Lucía Poenzo proposes us to go to the cinema and meet the impacted.
- 18:03I strongly recommend that you see. This film is really very shocking if
- 18:11there is the play of words from tomorrow then in many halls of the country
- 18:15and good Lucia, I think thank you very much. We will be attentive
- 18:21to everything that happens with the impacted and your future projects. Thank you so
- 18:26much for having accompanied us, thanks to you. We' re still on
- 18:37GPS audio- visual radio. Unhappy man, not happy. I also had
- 18:47a decision. They' ll take care of it. It would appear or
- 19:00how it would describe your relationship as a clear or normal couple. Put down
- 19:15the author how much I agree with that or not. That was part of
- 19:29the city. I was a way to breathe and you met me at the
- 19:33very rare moment in life. You know what it is. It' s
- 19:41okay to work in the city the Letter of another occasion of passage two pass
- 19:47you have no idea who I am or not. Don' t like breakfast
- 20:07The duel, a woven Augusto movie with Joaquin Furriel, Eugenia, China,
- 20:15Suarez and great cast. It is a Burke production and is available in star
- 20:19Plas. That' s me when I was ten and that' s my
- 20:36neighborhood where the story I want to tell you is born. I' ve
- 20:42changed him since you went cold da and you' re fart. He'
- 20:51s my bitch, that' ll let him change goal Juan and the less
- 20:56we cross better for him and for everyone. They watch the whole movement.
- 21:00I went out how many are the family, the whole move and the bocon
- 21:21stick in a row turns or s b Records. The last day of your
- 21:40childhood, we invite you to travel in time, because we take you right
- 21:45there accompanying nico on the way to his maturity in a neighborhood thriller between medium,
- 21:51a film by Martin Gamaler, simultaneous premiere in the cinema comn and in
- 21:55cinema rocha a la plata starting from the fifteen of February, every day,
- 22:00twenty and thirty hours we find ourselves also in instagram arroba between half point the
- 22:06film. We would have liked to know what was the last day of our
- 22:17childhood, Argentine Francisco Lesama and his history at the Berlin International Film Festival.
- 22:23The comedy a strange movement won the gold bear to the best film of the
- 22:30short film competition of this festival, which culminated last Sunday. We' re
- 22:37in communication with Francisco Lesama, Hi Francisco. Congratulations. Where you are now
- 22:44and well, how they followed these days after the gold bear. How are
- 22:49you doing? Thank you for having me with you. I' m in
- 22:57Berlin more now because I have family that shouldn' t be. About ten
- 23:00years ago on the outskirts of Berlin and I stayed with them for a few
- 23:04days to get down a bit. The foam of the festival becomes a little
- 23:10intense. He' s used us to so much. Of course and besides,
- 23:15with that award I don' t say the other one of or should
- 23:23be yes, very strong. Yeah, I really do. Yeah, yeah
- 23:26emotionally one who' s been doing things since I was so young, in
- 23:34my case, I' ve been a cinephile since I was very young,
- 23:41thanks to my grandfather who took me to the movies, and then it'
- 23:41s good nothing. You cross a little wires like the joy for the professional,
- 23:45with the biographical, emotional and not in that I' m a little
- 23:51low now making so much of me to become a jerk. Yeah, yeah,
- 23:59never, I think it' s clear, in a good jerk who
- 24:06tells a strange move. A strange movement is a short film that lasts 23
- 24:11minutes and what I had proposed to myself at the time in an intuitive way
- 24:18was to try to narrate a little bit the economic crisis Argentina through two different
- 24:22characters. One is a low- middle- class security guard who manages to
- 24:30see with a pendulum that the future an abrupt climb to the dollar bar that
- 24:37foresees with an improvised pendulum, one ran would change, gets fired from his
- 24:41work as a guard and buys dollars and from there there there is something in
- 24:48the character, as if changing status by buying dollars that comes in. Let
- 24:53' s say the character goes into bonding with a little tree that can'
- 25:00t buy dollars, but tries to bond in a traditional romantic way. But
- 25:04there' s like an impossibility in that loving bond between who can buy dollars
- 25:10and who can' t. It' s kind of a deconstructed romantic comedy
- 25:15about Argentines. We are divided into two, yes, those who can buy
- 25:21dollars because they have a balance and those who are doomed to have their salaries
- 25:26liquefy for inflation. It' s a very strange short and it' s
- 25:32very good. In twenty- two minutes, what I do feel is that
- 25:33something like a forceful thing is being put together that I thought wasn' t
- 25:37going to be understood in Berlin. I never thought you' d be able
- 25:41to see it outside of Argentina. While I made every effort to narrate the
- 25:48truths of the crisis, the explanation goes up. I was quite surprised that
- 25:56he was selected, but well, I believe the context, not the context
- 26:02with the theme of the promises of dollarization, made this short that starts in
- 26:07the two thousand nineteen and brakes him in the pandemic with a dollar to sixty
- 26:10pesos, nothing will resonate in the context of today and in Berlin. What
- 26:18happens is that the shorts, which are twenty that choose from the world,
- 26:22are like narrative artifacts that have a very own form, each very interesting,
- 26:27but at the same time, all dialogue with what is happening in reality.
- 26:30It' s not like the curatorial line to Berlin. Or what I intuit,
- 26:34what you see. Little can I say, because, of course,
- 26:38now I feel that it is all politicians who are short. Yes, of
- 26:41course, why you were looking to address the subject of the obsession with the
- 26:48dollar, because you were interested in the script or developing it. Yes,
- 26:51yes, since the two thousand and fourteen that I have been developing, I
- 26:55directed two shorts before they were about this issue, I took them down and
- 27:00this time I wanted to make a short only much more focused on the economic
- 27:04crisis and it seemed to me that, for example, there are many many
- 27:10essay films, many films about language without going any further. Mainstream works language,
- 27:15for example Matrix, but never work with the economy. And it seems
- 27:22to me that that is something that has to do with what we are like
- 27:25that the film industry is Eurocentric or in the United States, where they don
- 27:30' t have inflation, and we, having inflation and these problems with the
- 27:33dollar, for me we are much further back. Human ties are much more
- 27:37traversed by the economy. And there you realize that the economy is a form
- 27:40of language that is all the time going through us and a little bit of
- 27:47the short is an attempt of non- theoretical, because it is a sad
- 27:52entangled comedy, but it is an attempt to generate a feeling that has to
- 27:59do with this that the economy transforms our bonds yes and that does not differentiate
- 28:04us, and that we can fantasize something romantic about someone. But if it
- 28:07' s another class, another class or a class like you didn' t
- 28:15buy dollars, they get complicated and I didn' t buy dollars and you
- 28:18buy dollars, you put on. Don' t exist, because I pay
- 28:22dollar and what do I do. It' s not a bit. That
- 28:22question in the form of a small one is called strange motion. Because of
- 28:29this or all these weird movements that Argentines are going through. We' re
- 28:37going through, I say what a premonitory. In a sense your short,
- 28:40but not so, because in the eighties it was grey and in two thousand
- 28:42one there was no crisis. Yeah, there' s a crisis all the
- 28:47time. Either crisis or good is this chaos and we are as more.
- 28:55We are all a little class, middle, upper middle, if we are
- 29:00all know economy, that is, we can all talk economy, which in
- 29:04the world happens to us. We' re trained. But yes, but
- 29:07we didn' t approach that as if it was like a language and it
- 29:17seemed good to do a hello. Yeah, we' re talking to Francisco.
- 29:22Lesama was the winner of the Berlin Film Festival with his short film a
- 29:29strange movement. You' re there, yes, Francisco, there we are
- 29:36We' re taking back communication. Which was the first thing you thought about
- 29:40when they mentioned you. They said he is the winner of the Berlin Festival
- 29:47' s top short film award. Well, I was accompanied by the two
- 29:52actors Paco Gorriz and La and La Mals and I admire them both as actors.
- 29:59They are the actors but very talented, with a lot of trade,
- 30:03already a lot in training and a lot of work done, a lot of
- 30:06film made. And the fact of being accompanied with them gave me a assurance
- 30:08that I don' t know where I got that I felt I was going
- 30:12to win, but because I felt that they deserved to win as actors,
- 30:18as if there was something like a surprise then. And no surprise sounds a
- 30:22little arrovante, but what I confess is a feeling like the expression of desire
- 30:29perhaps unconscious inside. So, when we win nothing, a huge poor satisfaction,
- 30:37he' s clear good. A few months ago, the change of
- 30:41Lautaro García Candela was released, also with production of thirty- six horses.
- 30:47You didn' t see the movie. Yeah, no, I didn'
- 30:49t see her. Yeah, yeah, about that. No, no,
- 30:53no. I haven' t seen her, I haven' t seen her.
- 30:56I didn' t sign it long before, in the two thousand nineteen
- 31:00short. So that' s another thing, yes, it' s another
- 31:04no, I' m saying it' s a plagiarism, let alone a
- 31:07plagiarism. It is another way of addressing the issue. Now there is some
- 31:14project that involves the passage of the short film along. Now, in my
- 31:21case, I am now developing a length that I will film in the high
- 31:25mountains of Gracia in Cordoba. Yeah, but I don' t have the
- 31:30cabal to say a lot about the projects I' m going to do,
- 31:34but I' m trying to start a long one and I' ve already
- 31:38written it a while ago. And good this gold loo stuff. I think
- 31:42I hope it makes it a little easier. The production is so complicated.
- 31:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, let' s try that. So,
- 31:52Francis, thank you so much for this contact and good congratulations again for
- 32:00this award, with your work, with your short film in Berlin I send
- 32:05you a hug, thank you, a big hug. Thank you for the
- 32:08interest, thank you. We' re still on GPS audio- visual radio.
- 32:45Alfred Oliveri will premiere the Wine Route worldwide his new feature film of gastronomic
- 32:53theme. This is going to be in the official cinema cooking competition of the
- 33:00Malaga Festival that begins this Friday first of March. We are with Alfred Oliveri,
- 33:07who is currently in Holland. Well, it' s a huge pleasure
- 33:12to always be in touch with you again, so good to meet you again.
- 33:15I say with you, it' s a pleasure, it' s
- 33:21a joy and always in a state of gratitude, because you' re where
- 33:23you have to be. I' ve been a lot of people late where
- 33:27we are, and that' s great. And you are always covering the
- 33:30activity of all colleagues and I love to follow the information through you about all
- 33:36the great things that Argentine cinema has. And yes, the truth is,
- 33:42it' s very motivating for me. Well, first of all, what
- 33:45is the Wine Route? Well, the wine route was a gio. Let
- 33:52us say this clearly. Who released the film in linear almost as well as
- 34:00in a surprise for ourselves do not know directly or how to classify if it
- 34:07is a kind of preview, official premiere, commercial wait. I think it
- 34:14' s still happening, it' s been happening a lot last month.
- 34:16I mean, we found messages everywhere from people who were seeing the Wine Route
- 34:22linearly. We' re going to have the name for people to understand,
- 34:27because we' re getting into a big mess. The original name is Into
- 34:30the Wind, which is like diving into wine. This is a road movie
- 34:37we made a while ago, starring Mariana Torta. It' s a very
- 34:44literal rice of twenty- two days. Let' s say crossing the most
- 34:50important territories, some of the most important. He came in Europe and crossed
- 34:53its cities, that is, starting with Paris, finishing in Madrid, passing
- 34:59through Burgón, passing through Cote d' Azur, passing through Mauro Colagreco.
- 35:04There' s a wine tasting for Argentines. He goes through Piedmont in Spain,
- 35:08in the Priory, in Sierra de Gredos, with a very personal connection
- 35:14of Mariana, with those places, with those people and with mainly the wine.
- 35:20And what I find very interesting, which are reflections that sometimes come to
- 35:23me later. Let' s say making the movie, making the movie.
- 35:29Then he kept thinking about what he did, what happened, what it means,
- 35:35what he brings. She has a deeply feminine look. I am very
- 35:39happy because we are going to Malaga with almost the entire team that made the
- 35:46film and they are three better and I, that is, lack that they
- 35:51were my partner at that time, that was areogenua, that is no longer
- 35:53a partner, but he is a friend and it would be very good that
- 35:57he is and we were all those who were in the band during those twenty
- 36:02- two days and what is distilled is first an energy. Definitely, when
- 36:06you talk about, let' s say equity of that of the other.
- 36:08The truth is that I am with the team that there are three women remaining
- 36:14the team remains the female team and the female protagonist. I want to say
- 36:22this and I' m going to come to this conclusion. I couldn'
- 36:23t have made this movie with a man, I mean, not that I
- 36:27could have made it. I wouldn' t have wanted to make it with
- 36:30a man and why chosen, because there' s a connection with wine on
- 36:37the part of a woman who' s not going to have a man.
- 36:39So, if I made this movie, the movie would have been completely different
- 36:44and we' d have to see if that would be interesting or not.
- 36:49But definitely, this film is impossible to conceive with a male protagonist and whether
- 36:55or not they want to know why. But I' m telling you,
- 36:58it' s like that. Uh- huh And people. When I see
- 37:00him, he' ll understand. You will understand that there is a female
- 37:05connection in relation to the world of wine. I see her and she'
- 37:09s fine. You can' t put up a request doing what she does.
- 37:14Of course, you can do something else, but this certainly isn'
- 37:17t and it' s something else. Female thematic films are not just female
- 37:22themes. It is the contribution of the female gaze or the female protagonism within
- 37:28a specific theme. This of this clear film good, at a time when,
- 37:34moreover, it is very much in the forefront within the audiovisual industry,
- 37:40the topic of the role of women, not only the places that occupy or
- 37:47do not occupy within the industry in the technical phases, but also good as
- 37:53heroines, if it fits the word or better let us get it out as
- 38:00protagonist of a story. Not in that sense, it seems to me that
- 38:04your documentary also acquires a priori a very, very interesting value. That'
- 38:12s honest aside, let' s say because the reality is that all this
- 38:15that you say is true and often arises in terms that is not so good.
- 38:22Even how good they are in terms that is not so good. And
- 38:24you know it. Let' s say there' s like an internal look
- 38:30within the industry, where let' s say there are moments with their themes,
- 38:37moments with their genres, moments with their suggestions. The suggestion of gender,
- 38:40the woman' s reference, may also be the suggestion of tru crime
- 38:45eyes, but it' s always like a suggestion that it' s a
- 38:49good time to do a certain thing. He' s never thought of that.
- 38:52That' s right, this closed two. It' s a crazy
- 38:55movie, and I don' t think it' s the only project we
- 39:00' ll ever say in a way. It went awry because it was shot
- 39:02from us we rolled it directly after presenting it in July in San Sebastian,
- 39:07in two thousand nineteen aha we hooked. From there we went out and met
- 39:14in Paris all and started shooting, which was in September of the two thousand
- 39:19nineteen and when I came back I had a lot of problems of all kinds
- 39:28as there can be in a movie, with funding, with partners, with
- 39:34links, with misunderstandings, with silver problems, with good. The thing is,
- 39:39I had a hole and a bad taste left and to get rid of
- 39:45that bad taste I ended up good. It' s not like I did
- 39:47it or it just went away. Naturally, I went to visit my friend
- 39:51because it was going to be shared in my great friend Juan, peralta bouquets
- 39:53in January and there we ended up signing priority that later ended up winning in
- 39:58Malaga. That wasn' t like the antidote to the taste he had left
- 40:01me. This filming was much more ambitious than it ended up being. I
- 40:07think it ended a great movie and the movie it had to be. I
- 40:10didn' t say this before. I say it now I go with the
- 40:14whole team to Malaga to this festival you saw, I go with Chuffy and
- 40:22I go with Mariana and we all go up to present the film and all
- 40:25Stodex. I' d have to say it clearly and because it' s
- 40:32very beautiful too and I really like it being one of them. In that
- 40:36sense, you let things happen differently. Despite the obstacles I understand, yes,
- 40:45it was a way of rereading the different reality that lived the years and
- 40:49allowed me to commission it in form and, in fact, the post-
- 40:52production was done in a different way. The process was much broader. I
- 40:55entered somehow from a later moment where we say it was already distilled between them.
- 41:01Let' s just say it was going to be a movie that had
- 41:05more to do with what it had to do with and not with things around
- 41:08it, but with me. I think it' s a very cool movie,
- 41:10so the connoisseur, who cares about wine, the wine lover, is
- 41:14going to freak him out because he gets to places where hardly anyone gets there.
- 41:19They are like very special women and very very really is like the Vatican
- 41:25of wine and that knows nothing about the world of wine, which for me
- 41:30are also important things in general, in my films it will have a great
- 41:35time and it will have a lot of fun and it will be very interesting
- 41:39how to enter all that and accompany Mariana throughout that journey. Now there is
- 41:45a style or a way to narrate your films. Where you can see the
- 41:51olivery seal. Let us always say my main goal, when I started,
- 41:57was to achieve excitement in the viewer from things that were not so predictably exciting.
- 42:02I wasn' t making a love story you understand how to get people
- 42:06excited, because the couple was making themselves. People stepping on grapes or people
- 42:10making them bring sight tomatoes and yet I think it was achieved. I think
- 42:16there' s a search for this after photographic, that is, every movie
- 42:22has piurity. It' s a movie, as I' d almost tell
- 42:25you, an indie movie that fictionates you and it' s a documentary and
- 42:30it' s an indie movie following the moon photographically. It seems to me
- 42:32that it has great achievements and, above all, a great concept. I
- 42:36mean, you bet on that or not, but you bet on that and
- 42:38you bet on the time you tell that movie. Then you have exclusive gastronomic
- 42:46cinema. We could say no as gender. This is a condition, a
- 42:53need for expression that you posed at a certain point when you started as cinemas
- 43:00or were finding the beta on the way. No, actually, neither was
- 43:04a coincidence. The thing is, let' s just say I didn'
- 43:07t find him on the road once I walked in between them. What happens
- 43:10is that you need to settle down and that people understand that you are doing
- 43:17that, even if you want to do something else, because everything takes a
- 43:22while and the understanding of people and the understanding of industry takes longer than your
- 43:25own understanding. I ended up doing cinema by chance, because I was linked
- 43:34to the world of gastronomy, because it seemed to me an interesting area to
- 43:38tell stories. No more than that, but this was an area that seemed
- 43:42to me to combine territory, politics, identity, territorial, social identity,
- 43:46the break between traditional schools, with the things that were happening in the world
- 43:53at the gastronomic level and especially in Latin America. And I felt apart from
- 44:00that. We were already in Cana, we were in San Sebastián, we
- 44:04have two silver ones, we have something, but I live with this new
- 44:07movie, it seems to me that we can go a little further and definitely,
- 44:14the world of fiction is what is coming and that is where I am
- 44:16entering this year. Where I am entering this year by projects linked in one
- 44:21way to another of gastronomy. Because they associate me with that and it'
- 44:23s okay. I want to be able to expand my creative palette from entering
- 44:30the world of fiction. I don' t want to make documentary food films
- 44:34all my life. Yes in itself, there is no such thing. It
- 44:38' s a step I' m taking to go somewhere else. Perfect Alfred
- 44:44Oliver, well, director of the Wine Route, which will have its world
- 44:47premiere, we can say on Sunday March 3rd at the cinema cooking competition of
- 44:53the Malaga Festival. Thank you so much for joining us for being here on
- 45:00Gp SE, audiovisual, radio and well, particularly with this film we will
- 45:06toast for your success. This is the story of my hatred. I'
- 45:17m his impression permit. The position of Manager was recently set free and I
- 45:22requested a new human resources request. Looks like it' s going to be
- 45:29mine for everyone. Option there because he' s a son of I don
- 45:34' t know who, because it' s pretty obvious they' re gonna
- 45:37put him a lot of fairness. Neither you nor I had a chance.
- 45:39We weren' t in the eternal for the job. It' s no
- 45:45longer important for your husband to be a brother who' s the most popular
- 45:47in the world. This is a short company and something me or you have
- 45:55to be wrong. Hang in there, we' ve got to shoot.
- 46:05One looked like tristintos children, others had as grounds you and we are already
- 46:08goal not a rush to revolution. He' s especially like us. Don
- 46:16' t do anything, I don' t have a paruritious plan. Love
- 46:20of Drow Polet was a bombache. I' m ho. There are two
- 46:32types of people. This one is you Jesús Magaña Vázquez directed the comedy Black
- 46:54human resources, a co- production between prism cinema of Córdoba and surviving films
- 47:02of Mexico that opens tomorrow in about twenty theaters of nine Argentine provinces. We
- 47:09are with Jesús Magaña, who is in Cordoba. Nice to talk to you
- 47:15very nice that diver you' re wearing. On the other hand, thank
- 47:20you, not the enchanted one. It' s me for your attention.
- 47:22I' m really, really, really happy. Well welcome from the initial
- 47:28idea to the premiere. It' s been over ten years. I understand
- 47:31not how the history of human resources evolved from its beginning until seeing the hour
- 47:38depicted on the Great screen. Yes, it is a big question, because
- 47:44yes, indeed, it was a film that took too long to develop for
- 47:51different reasons, because thank you. That' s the way to look for
- 47:54funding. In fact, because that' s why we also ended up happily,
- 48:01filming in Cordoba, Argentina, looking for, therefore, a greater financing
- 48:07for the production values we wanted from the film, because it was that this
- 48:08coordinate was given. I met Antonio Pita of prism cinema at the San Sebastián
- 48:13Festival of two thousand and eight. I think I' m not going to
- 48:22the co- production market and looking for interviews with producer belts. And well,
- 48:28that' s where it started. But back to your question, yes,
- 48:35the script had twenty- seven, twenty- seven treatments, the novel
- 48:42by Antonio Ortuño I read about two thousand eleven, the novel of two thousand
- 48:47seven and definitely in ten years, because one is changing, even one is
- 48:53not the same in ten years. I' m not even the same person
- 48:57who came up with it in the movie that he finally made it to himself,
- 49:00and things are happening to him that' s too long. I had
- 49:05the fortune with the project of being in a workshop two very valuable screenplay workshops,
- 49:09an organized by Berta Navarro, who is a super important Mexican producer,
- 49:15the producer of the labyrinth of fauna that suddenly has laboratories of script and direction
- 49:21and with musicians yes, and with the script of Colombia, who selects projects
- 49:30from all over Ibero- America. And those were also part, as important
- 49:36moments for what was the development of the screenplay of the film that we were
- 49:44finally able to shoot in two thousand twenty- one. There wasn' t
- 49:49really part of the funding that was far advanced enough that we could think it
- 49:53could happen in two thousand twenty. But then a pandemic happened. The pandemic
- 49:59happened. We' re all frozen for a while. Now how he took
- 50:04what you found in Córdoba that offered you, what an advantage, what attractions
- 50:14you found in Córdoba to decide that the shooting would go there. Look first
- 50:19at a producer who liked the project. It has to be said like that
- 50:25and that you wanted to take my film, which was Antonio. But a
- 50:31second trip, a first trip that I had when we were half- worded
- 50:39that I was going to work with prism and survivors. I take a Scoutin
- 50:43trip, a very first trip even before applying to the Inca and show me
- 50:53possible locations. Then he came to a place that is in the industrial city
- 50:58of Córdoba about the airport called Quru and shows me that possibility of having that
- 51:04location so that they are the workshops of the company and I said it is
- 51:09here no. But besides, it is a location that, surely, I
- 51:13do not get in Mexico City and Mexico City in other places, even spectacular
- 51:15and already from there he said hijole. Here I can put 50 meters of
- 51:22rails for a painful film. There is one thing that makes me very proud
- 51:25to say the film out there has a sequence of seventy, with a dola
- 51:29and seventy meters, which was all a task of logistics, of production of
- 51:37which we are very proud to have achieved secounts. There are several sequences that
- 51:42truth has production values. Bomb. Yes, it is an important production in
- 51:49terms of technical production. You can see that in the pictures. Now he
- 51:54has the particularity of having Juana Viale as the protagonist what contrast and how it
- 52:02was in what the joint work consisted, that it was a surprise to notice
- 52:12that I in this search for the part of the cast that I had to
- 52:15do from there. Another Ellenka, fortunately, is Cordobes, with very,
- 52:17very talented people. I knew some Argentine actresses. Suddenly one would like Mexico
- 52:27to have more access to current Argentine cinema. Yeah, and I ran into
- 52:32a TV show that I didn' t like so much about the show,
- 52:36but it really caught my attention. The actress was in that one that was
- 52:38called was that she was Juana There she was and she said physically her type.
- 52:44I like that toño got the contact. I talked to her. There
- 52:49was like a filim but I have to tell you that until I was in
- 52:54the predera, I didn' t know all the baggage of the family history
- 53:02or the character Juana is here in Argentina. I had no idea what was
- 53:07around Joan and her family. I really saw an actress who I think served
- 53:14me. I had some very interesting soms with them starting some readings and I
- 53:22didn' t really know anything and I found out about it in the film,
- 53:27as in racing. I heard about that some roast at my assistant management
- 53:30' s house giving more fuck and everyone already told me. But she and
- 53:34the family are famous. I wasn' t clear, of course, I
- 53:38had no idea. Not really. The attention was curious and I think Joan
- 53:44understood Veronica' s character very well. That' s not what someone who
- 53:49understood it is. Perfe perfection gives with the fisig du roll and gives its
- 53:54ideology also by Shamanes. In some way let' s say Juana a character
- 54:00like the untouchable, because she understands it very well. Not sure. Now
- 54:04you' ve dispensed with color and that' s another aesthetic choice, developing
- 54:10history in black and white. This had to do with what one had to
- 54:15do with it. There' s a personal taste for black and white.
- 54:20My cousin opera also said black and white. All my movies. I have
- 54:22six movies, five movies before these, and there are always times when I
- 54:28have some black- and- white sequence. Or in my fourth film it
- 54:30' s even the footage very divided between white color is not something I like.
- 54:35Another one seems to me to be the state as pure of cinema for
- 54:38me, because if it wasn' t born black and white and there was
- 54:45a moment of this movie and when it was like the pandemic and I liked
- 54:47your work so much that I said when I did it, I don'
- 54:54t care because that' s a commercial decision, let' s say risky,
- 54:58not because people aren' t going to do it in black and white.
- 54:59And another is that this film, which in the end is a farce,
- 55:02a satire about the world of work and which seems to me that offices
- 55:08are very grey places. Now, a palette of white, black, and
- 55:14grey and grey colors was perfect. Exactly then that, but they' re
- 55:20like the different motivations. No good, and I think it goes very well
- 55:23for them they did their advantage certainly, certainly well, let' s not
- 55:30go much further, let' s not spoil, as it is said now
- 55:37Jesús Magaña Vázquez, director of the comedy Black human resources that since tomorrow is
- 55:45displayed throughout the country. Thank you very much for joining us and well with
- 55:49him we are saying goodbye to this new broadcast of GPS audiovisual radio. Thank
- 55:54you goat in technical assistance and you know, as we always say, but
- 56:02now, more than ever, see Argentine cinema until next week. Thank you
- 56:08very much and thank you also for coming with us Jesus Magaña Vázquez. Thanks
- 56:14to you a hug. This was GTs audio- visual radio. We'
- 56:30ll be waiting for you next Wednesday at 19 o' clock by radio thirty
- 57:00- three capil Thank you,