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Part THREE, Peach Please! | RHOA Reunion Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: Blue Centric, Claudia Jordan, and Dustin Ross live on stage
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  Speaker 2: Now is the time, Claudia Blue and Dustin I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of I'm kind of sad because it is the last
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  Speaker 2: time we get to recap Atlanta Housewife season seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: We will get to rate.
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  Speaker 1: So range job you see at the bottom of the screen.
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  Speaker 1: Our last topic is rate that peach. So what that
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  Speaker 1: means is we are going to so you want to
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  Speaker 1: stay till the end, rain drops, Claudia, Dustin Blue and
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  Speaker 1: I are going to give you all our rating for
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  Speaker 1: the top to the bottom, which sounds like Mike Weekend.
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  Speaker 4: No bottom to the top.
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  Speaker 3: We said bottom, bottom to the top, which is really
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  Speaker 3: Dustin's Weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Oh okay, it's what Campbell say.
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  Speaker 6: It's the journey said, I'm still opened up. She said,
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  Speaker 6: not open up? Hell yeah, yes, yes, yes, do it.
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  Speaker 1: We will rate in terms of who we think was
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of the barrel, and who say the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: We're not saying that it's it's it's.
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  Speaker 4: You're saying the bottom, Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: And who we think our top peachholder is, so leaving
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  Speaker 1: the comments, who you think is number one and number eight?
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  Speaker 1: Honorary mentioned to Cynthia Bailey, Okay, who is everything and
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  Speaker 1: we love you. We will be to be fair, we
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  Speaker 1: will be giving that to the peach holders.
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  Speaker 4: Okay on my list, I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's okay, listen, look spoiler, Cynthia's number one on our.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm like number one friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, to be fair, to be fair, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do the peach holders.
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  Speaker 3: So Cynthia, just know you're you're still number one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into the real Housewatch Atlanta Reunion Part three.
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  Speaker 3: It did kick off with k Michelle.
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  Speaker 1: Now listen, the Dallas trip was brought up in this
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  Speaker 1: particular part through reunion. But the first thing they brought
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  Speaker 1: up was obviously the biggest topic of Dallas besides the
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  Speaker 1: dirty rooms, allegedly was Cay Michelle feeling like somebody was
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  Speaker 1: plotting against her.
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  Speaker 3: Cay Michelle did give us insight in this reunion.
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  Speaker 1: She did say that they were on a bus and
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  Speaker 1: that Drew said something about trying something someone like frying
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  Speaker 1: fish or in regards of frying fish, and that's when
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  Speaker 1: k Michelle thought it was a scheme that Todd set
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  Speaker 1: up in terms of somebody talking about the rumors that
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  Speaker 1: she had to deal with years ago from a person
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go in to detail, child Lord knows,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need any smoke.
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  Speaker 4: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Claudia Michelle did say that, in hindsight, she should have
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  Speaker 1: let a play out because by her not addressing it,
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  Speaker 1: it became a bigger story what the alleged revelation was
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  Speaker 1: going to be. Dustin did you feel like learning that
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  Speaker 1: tidbit about Drew mentioning frying fish? Do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: it gives credence to k Mischelle's.
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  Speaker 3: Paranoia? No, okay, thank you for having us.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's just a very complete, you know,
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  Speaker 5: answer for that, because the problem with it is it
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  Speaker 5: involves a bunch of people and a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 5: that has nothing to do with the Real Housewives of Atlanta,
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  Speaker 5: and it distracts us from getting to know Cay Michelle
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  Speaker 5: and enjoying her personality and enjoying her really being present
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  Speaker 5: in the moment. I really think that the show itself,
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  Speaker 5: the Real Housewives of Atlanta, is above that rumor about
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  Speaker 5: the smell. I really think that kay Michelle as a talent,
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  Speaker 5: as an artist who is over a decade into her career,
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  Speaker 5: I think that she's above that rumor. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that the audience even knows that about that rumor. A
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  Speaker 5: lot of the audience is just getting to know ky Michelle,
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  Speaker 5: and so I really hate that that rumor even found
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  Speaker 5: its way into this space, which was really new for her,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm sure she was looking forward to new experiences
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  Speaker 5: in this space. So I'm not sure why she was
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  Speaker 5: so hell bent and determined to bring that into this
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  Speaker 5: space and then use it as a device to now
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  Speaker 5: navigate her relationships or lack thereof, with these ladies. So
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to a reset for her next season.
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  Speaker 3: Claudia, I've been.
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  Speaker 7: Going back and forth with this. I think two things
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  Speaker 7: would be true. At the same time, I do think
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  Speaker 7: that I wish you would have ignored it and not
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  Speaker 7: brought it to the I don't think the Bravo viewers
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  Speaker 7: may have been as on a hip to it as
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  Speaker 7: some of the other viewers. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 7: these girls do be trying it. Let's be very clear
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  Speaker 7: and then be like, what do you mean. I didn't
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  Speaker 7: mean it like that. It was all over the place. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: there's no way that those girls didn't know about that.
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  Speaker 7: It was on the Breakfast Club, it was all all
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  Speaker 7: over the place for years. It was a huge deal
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  Speaker 7: that was made about it. And so like, on one hand,
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  Speaker 7: these girls are such big fans of hers. On the
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  Speaker 7: other hand, they don't know anything about the rumor. I
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  Speaker 7: don't know. I don't have proof, but I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 7: I'm only saying that to say I don't think Kay
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  Speaker 7: Michelle was wrong for being a little paranoid about because
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  Speaker 7: two people both said comments about fish and fishy smells
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  Speaker 7: and stuff like that. I would be sensitive to that
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  Speaker 7: too if that was out there about me. But I
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  Speaker 7: do wish she would have said what she said on
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  Speaker 7: the meding like and just paid it dust, because it
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  Speaker 7: did get bigger by her putting a light on it.
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  Speaker 7: But like I, let's let's let's admit, let's let's not
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  Speaker 7: deny that. On these shows, a lot of times people
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  Speaker 7: will gaslate the hell out of you and say things,
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  Speaker 7: put it out there, and then when they're called to
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  Speaker 7: the carpet, hit you with a what do you mean you?
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  Speaker 7: And that happens. That happens in all reality shows, you
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  Speaker 7: know what I mean. So I get why k was
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  Speaker 7: sensitive about it, is what I'm saying, but I also
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  Speaker 7: get that it got elevated because of her saying something
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  Speaker 7: about it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Blue, Yeah, this one's a little tricky, right because
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  Speaker 4: when people mentioned fried fish, my first thought is it
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  Speaker 4: my vagina? So that's that that's there's a level of
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  Speaker 4: hypervisilance that you have to be operating from under for
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  Speaker 4: that to trigger you in that way. And however, Comma
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  Speaker 4: Drew is not above that type of shade. Drew's not
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  Speaker 4: above it. Drews is exactly the If I had to
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  Speaker 4: pick somebody who would say your smellfish, it would be Drew.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm giving you a little bit of credit. If
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  Speaker 4: I was to pick the person who would pick that
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  Speaker 4: as a job, it would be Drew. But they were
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  Speaker 4: also in Texas. Everything is fried, the water is fried.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't you know what I mean, there's so
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  Speaker 4: many everything is possible. It's possible. So it's like.
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  Speaker 7: You're here, but it was a fish oyster. It was
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  Speaker 7: a fish oyster combo with oysters. If you don't think
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  Speaker 7: like that, because no one's ever put a rumor about
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  Speaker 7: you about your smell, but imagine, imagine if there was
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  Speaker 7: right and a million people heard it.
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  Speaker 4: You might be Clai. I completely am on your side.
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  Speaker 4: I completely understand what you're saying. I'm also saying, we're
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  Speaker 4: in in the fried food capital of the world, so
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  Speaker 4: it's like, damn.
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  Speaker 7: It, are we in the oyster capital of the world.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think it's I think it's a note
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  Speaker 5: that before the rumor came upon the show, all of
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  Speaker 5: us watching the show. When we talked about Ky Michelle
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  Speaker 5: being added to the cast when we were joking, that
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  Speaker 5: rumor never made its way to our conversation. Never, And
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  Speaker 5: although it may have been a big story at the
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  Speaker 5: time that it happened, you know what I'm saying, it
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  Speaker 5: was nothing that was even in our awareness. I know
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  Speaker 5: nobody on this panel was thinking about a rumor that
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  Speaker 5: about that rumor, I don't even want to repeat it.
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  Speaker 5: So this assumption that everybody's thinking about this and some
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  Speaker 5: pipe we might use.
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  Speaker 6: It to Plly, I think it's a little far fetched.
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  Speaker 6: If that was so.
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  Speaker 5: Present and prevalent in conversations with god in k Michelle,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure it would have made it to its way
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  Speaker 5: to conversations we've had even off the show about her
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  Speaker 5: being on the show, and it never made its way
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  Speaker 5: to that. So I think that K Michelle and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of other people in the audience rather who may
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  Speaker 5: have followed her from other projects, are giving that rumor
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  Speaker 5: a lot more gas and energy than it deserved. It
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  Speaker 5: was hurtful, I'm sure who would want something to be
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  Speaker 5: said about them, you know what I'm saying, And she
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  Speaker 5: deserves some grace for that. Nobody was fucking thinking about that.
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  Speaker 5: When it comes to this shows.
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  Speaker 4: The vocal minority though in Kate, I.
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  Speaker 6: Never thought about that.
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  Speaker 4: When I never thought about it, I will say.
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  Speaker 6: This, I knew about it.
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  Speaker 4: If sky Daddy came down right now and said, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna show you what really happened. If we saw that
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  Speaker 4: there was no fishing site in Texas and it came
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  Speaker 4: out of nowhere and Drew was being shady, I'd be like,
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  Speaker 4: I believe that. If we saw that they passed by
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  Speaker 4: Roscoe's fist joint and she really was like I would
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  Speaker 4: love some whiting and k just like, oh it's time
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  Speaker 4: to fight. I would believe that there's I would literally
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  Speaker 4: believe every single scenario. Yeah, it's all possible.
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  Speaker 7: It's not top of mind for us because it's not
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  Speaker 7: about us, but when it's.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if somebody told you that your goot smelled.
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  Speaker 7: Like, it's like see and that's your that's your achilles tendon, right,
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  Speaker 7: that's your achilles heel, because it is something that you
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  Speaker 7: probably have the battle like. You know, there's certain things
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  Speaker 7: that I don't know if you guys have dealt with,
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  Speaker 7: like rumors about yourself online, but that becomes like how
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  Speaker 7: could I think that you know?
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  Speaker 1: You?
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  Speaker 3: You?
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  Speaker 7: You kind of moved through the lens of and a
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  Speaker 7: lot of times when it's about you, you think the
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  Speaker 7: world thinks that even though the Internet is not even
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  Speaker 7: the majority of the people, right, it feels bigger to.
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  Speaker 4: You though, Like I mean, it's not your fault. It happened,
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  Speaker 4: but it's your responsibility not to take it everywhere with you.
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  Speaker 1: And then that's what I think. I'm gonna give this
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  Speaker 1: a second dozen two this, this is what I think
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  Speaker 1: I think, and I think all of you are right
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  Speaker 1: number one. But I will say this, I think in
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  Speaker 1: all fairness to k Michelle, like Claudia said, and I
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  Speaker 1: do agree with this. Listen, I have been involved in
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  Speaker 1: rumors that weren't true about me, and there is this
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  Speaker 1: heightened sensitivity that doesn't that that that reappears, right, It
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  Speaker 1: reappears when something small happens. But that's why, to Blues point,
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  Speaker 1: you do have to find within yourself and remind yourself
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  Speaker 1: only you are are creating this for you to believe
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  Speaker 1: it's something that is happening.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I do agree with Blue in terms of that, I
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  Speaker 1: grew with Claudia in terms of when if you it's
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  Speaker 1: in you. I will say this, like Ky Michelle, I
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  Speaker 1: think unfortunately for ky Michelle as well, Unlike us, she
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  Speaker 1: is entering this big show that is the biggest black
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  Speaker 1: female ensemble show in the world. And because I know
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  Speaker 1: personally this is something she always wanted, she got it.
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  Speaker 1: And like Claudia said too, this isn't a show to
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  Speaker 1: where no.
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  Speaker 3: One's above it, right above spreading things.
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  Speaker 1: So I think with the heightened sensitivity that yes, is
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  Speaker 1: just in her. I agree with Dustin. I gotta be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. I've known this woman since we did
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  Speaker 1: love and hip hop. They want, I promise on everything
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  Speaker 1: I love. I forgot about it because because in my
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  Speaker 1: in my purview as a in pop culture.
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  Speaker 3: It's not top of mind for me.
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  Speaker 1: When I think of kay Michelle, I think of love
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  Speaker 1: and hip hop, I think of music, and I think
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  Speaker 1: of the amazing sayings that she has. But with that
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  Speaker 1: being said, yes, you can't discount how she feels. But
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  Speaker 1: I did say this day one, and I'm never going
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  Speaker 1: to change my tune. That's why I've always said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you should have never brought this up, and if anything,
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  Speaker 1: if anything, I yes, I would have prepared myself for
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  Speaker 1: a response.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that got brought.
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  Speaker 7: Up, and I will say this every Let me not
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  Speaker 7: say every A lot of housewives, right, and I'm not
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  Speaker 7: just speaking on this show, but like a lot of
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  Speaker 7: these reality shows, when you know you're going on a show,
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  Speaker 7: or you know a new cast members coming on, Trust
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  Speaker 7: and Believe, a lot of these girls will do a
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  Speaker 7: lot little bit of research just to have something in
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  Speaker 7: their pocket in case someone ever comes at me.
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  Speaker 3: So if this lead not to cut you off, I
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  Speaker 3: want to add to you.
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  Speaker 1: Jason Lee did reveal that allegedly some women did contact
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  Speaker 1: him to get a te get a te on Chemis show.
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  Speaker 7: He did say that it happens like they go on
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  Speaker 7: there and okay, such is being added. Let me have something,
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  Speaker 7: not even saying we're fighting. I don't like this person,
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  Speaker 7: but just in case you come at me, I have
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  Speaker 7: something ready to go. Trust and Believe, and people that
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  Speaker 7: say they don't do it, I'm side eying. Like it's
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  Speaker 7: a common thing that happens on a lot of these shows.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm glad that Jason Lee confirmed that because it's
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  Speaker 7: something they reach out to other bloggers. They do their research,
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  Speaker 7: they look at old rumors, they go on Lift the Galley,
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  Speaker 7: they get things that they can have so they can
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  Speaker 7: quickly have something to say. It happens. It happens to
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  Speaker 7: everybody on that show.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, Clara Angela does it, so, yeah, it definitely happens. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: some of them are more obvious than others. No, I
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  Speaker 4: love her, but I told you I don't like it.
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  Speaker 4: But she's just inspected gadget. But she's proofn Claudia's point.
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  Speaker 4: She's not the only inspected gadget on the show.
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  Speaker 7: I would say that they've all probably done it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Moving on to Porsche and came Michelle, they did
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  Speaker 1: make up. Porcha said, look, we had a little sisterhood
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  Speaker 1: kind of fight.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much. I like you, you like me. We can
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  Speaker 3: move move on from it.
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  Speaker 1: Shamia then decides to ask Porsche about a comment that
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  Speaker 1: Porscha made in my interview with her where she did
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  Speaker 1: say that Cay Michelle picked the wrong team and Shemiah
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  Speaker 1: felt that you guys had accused me of having an alliance.
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  Speaker 1: What did you mean by that team comment? Porscha said
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  Speaker 1: she did not mean it the way Smia is interpreting it.
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  Speaker 1: She was more so talking about the fact that, look,
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  Speaker 1: you're you like this person. Those things may change as
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  Speaker 1: the season continues. And then there was unseen footage that
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  Speaker 1: was shown where Fedra did say that came Michelle takes ambient.
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  Speaker 3: Shemiah said, it's easy to make her.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like she's the fall guy because she has fallen
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  Speaker 1: out with so many of these women. Claudia bumps your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about that, especially the unseen footage of the shade
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  Speaker 1: that phades through Kate Michelle.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I didn't like this reunion honestly because towards
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  Speaker 7: the end it's seeing what they were like it was
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  Speaker 7: getting light and fun, and it just it just it's
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  Speaker 7: so catty, petty. Mean, I didn't like it. It doesn't
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  Speaker 7: feel fun when it's like a pylon, right. And I'm
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  Speaker 7: not saying Smi is right on a lot of stuff,
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  Speaker 7: because she's definitely contribute to how so many people feel
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  Speaker 7: about her, but like when she does improve a point
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  Speaker 7: or is right about a thing in an argument, it
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  Speaker 7: just gets glazed over. She said, that's what was said.
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  Speaker 7: They were like, no, I didn't, And then lo and
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  Speaker 7: behold the roll that beautiful being footage back and there's
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  Speaker 7: Phaedria saying that she was on ambient. So it's like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I know, once you don't like someone it's
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  Speaker 7: hard to give them any kind of compliments or grace
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  Speaker 7: or just say yeah, you are right. But I struggle
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  Speaker 7: with that too, But you have to. You have to
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  Speaker 7: when someone's right, even if it's not your favorite. You
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  Speaker 7: got to say, hey, man, she was right on that regard,
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  Speaker 7: because they cut right to it and no one gave
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  Speaker 7: her credit for that. And then even Kay said, you
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  Speaker 7: never told me not to be friends with those girls,
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  Speaker 7: and it just got brushed under the rug. And it's like,
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  Speaker 7: so it just looks like a complete like nope, writing
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  Speaker 7: her off everything. Tomia says it's bullshit, a lie, she's fake.
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  Speaker 7: She says, she's a she's all the things. But like
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  Speaker 7: there's a there's a there's a a cause and effect
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  Speaker 7: to a lot of this stuff. Now I don't know
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  Speaker 7: who's the origin of all the bad and all of this,
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  Speaker 7: but I will say, in that moment, specifically, what you're
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  Speaker 7: asking me about, she was mindicated somewhat to me, and
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  Speaker 7: everyone just kind of brushed right past it because they
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  Speaker 7: don't like her, so they ain't giving her hit. So yeah,
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  Speaker 7: came to Shelfers saying that though it got lost and
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: everybody jumping because everyone's been talking over each other. They
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: all do it, and we didn't really get to a
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: big enough point. Wasn't made about that, And I think
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: that was a big deal.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Blue for me, it was. It was interesting. I'm gonna
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: tell you this, I'm so exhausted of the Portia Shmiah thing.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: It's over. Yeah, And I'm the kind of person that
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: you got one time to tell me you don't want
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: me bet I'm the Torius for saying bet. So for me,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: this is already long winded. I'm over it. They're not
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: going to be friends again. It's over. Let's make peace
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: with that, Let's mourn it, and let's move the fuck on.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: So all these little pieces and the granulars, I don't
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: care like it's over. And I think there's a part
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: of Shemiah that is still in mourning, and a part
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: of her hopes that even when they said what's the
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: last thing you could say to everybody? They all have
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: these great points and Shamia's thing was being more forgiving,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I think. And this is not a bad thing, by
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the way, because I relate to it. There's a part
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: of Shemiah that still hopes that there's a level of
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: comprehension or understanding that Porsche will have for her that
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: will soften her heart to her, and Porscha's over it,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: like that relationship is dead. And so Shemiah is seeking
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: to be understood while the other person's moved on. Right,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: And we've all been in that predicament on either side,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: where we're either the person who the person's trying to
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: explain themselves You're like, bitch, I've left the group chat,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not in this anymore. Why are you explaining? It
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter what you say, I'm over it, Or the
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: person who's thinking, well, maybe if I just make sense
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: and make this point and have this win and x Y,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: she doesn't care. It's over and I look forward to
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: next year when we can all move the hell on.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I don't care about the ambient comment. I don't care.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: First of all, it was Porsche who was talking and
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: said I didn't say that, and the show was it
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: wasn't her, it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: Was a Phaedra.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Right. So it's a perfect example of because your heart
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: is broken about Porsche, every slight somehow still brings you
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: back to her because you still love her. Right. Grief
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: is love that's lost its way. Grief is love that
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: has nowhere to go, Sami is still loves Porsche and
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: it is grieving the fact that she is dead to Porsche.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Porsche is done with it, right. And also that part
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: at the end where I'm gonna be honest with y'all.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: If I ever come on the show and I told
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: you not to mention my mother or my child and
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: you keep mentioning it, that's my last day on the show.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Those kind of boundaries enough, right, them bringing up the
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: mother and the child thing. Even when Andy said, why
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: why are you shooting baggers at me? She's like, because
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I said, I don't want to talk about my mother
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: or my child enough enough, you know what I mean.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm just saying that at a certain point,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: we're beating a dead horse. The horse is dead.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: The horse, Claudia, the horse is dead.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, did I accidentally unleash the horse?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I accident the perfect So so dust, do you agree
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: with blew that?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Look what we was Smiah looking for a moment to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: talk about how she feels is possibly be.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Whatlse.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I'm looking for the empathy to feel understood out.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: It's when the contradiction, I'm sorry, the contradiction in terms
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: of ports saying I forgive you, We're good, but also saying, well,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: you did say ky Michelle was going to choose the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: wrong team, and I feel like it because everybody's against me.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You guys make it seem like they are because of me.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Or was Shamia reaching making sense? And did the ambient
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: clip help her case?
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Well, let's start at your last part of your question. No,
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the ambient clip did not help her case. They were
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: talking shit about ky Michelle, just like ky Mi. Shelle's
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: been talking about them and their confessionals, just like Porsche
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: and Shamia used to talk shit.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Together about people when they were on good terms. That's
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: all it was.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: So the that was not the smoking gun that I
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: think Shemiah thought it was, And her even resorting to
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: that is an example of her misalignment with with the
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: with when and how Shamiah speaks up for herself. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: we'll get more into that later. Because I truly love
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Shamiah on this show. I want her to be she
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: deserves to be a part of this and and I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: glad that she'll continue to be on it. But I
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: want her to just have a I want Shmi to
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: just take a hot shower and just sit in front
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: of her vanity. You know what I'm saying in her
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: beautiful you know, master bath, you know what I'm saying,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: And wear in some really luxurious towels.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: And just steam her face all of that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Not white diamonds, not white diamonds perfume, literal white diamonds
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: on her body, you know what I'm saying in her mirror,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: in that beautiful mansion, and just center herself and really
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: be like, I am going to start being honest and
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: reacting in real time with my real emotions and do
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: that instead of.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: What she's been doing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: And we'll dig a little bit deeper into that when
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: we get into our ratings of the housewives. But Porscha
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: and Shamia, that's a dead relationship at this point. There's
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: always a chance for reconciliation in the future. And Porscha
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: was the leader while they were friends, and she's leading
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the charge post the breakdown of their friendship. Porscha was
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: setting the rules of engagement for them on that stage
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: in real time, and Shamiyah was being compliant and subordinate
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: to Porscha in that way and accepting those new terms
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: because now she truly can say how she feels. And
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: she's still answering questions saying, well, I actually agree. I
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: think instead of saying I'm mad about this, you made
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: me feel like this, this is how I feel. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: don't care what you're talking about. We're going to talk
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: about what I want to talk about. It's just a
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: difference in the approach. So I was not swayed by
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: that information of faed you talking shit about that ambient
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: or whatever it was that she said, that's the housewife shit.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a smoking gun to me.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Andy asked a question from a viewer if Kelly was
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a rebound BFF for Shemia, because of course Shemia fell
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: out with Portia and this in this conversation. Obviously, Kelly
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: said no, that her and Shamia developed a friendship, but
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: within this conversation it did come up. In regards to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Faedro representing Kelly, Kelly did reveal that she did pay
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Faedrus team ten thousand dollars. It wasn't free. Faedrus said
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the billable hours was well over sixty thousand dollars and
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that she did get a discount Kelly's like, look, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: didn't know it was a discount. All I know is
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you gave me a bill for ten thousand dollars and
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it was paid. Portia asked, well, why are you trying
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to Why are you trying to discredit Phaedra? And Fadra
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: did say that she felt like she was being discredited. Claudia,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: do you feel like Kelly was discrediting the work that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Faedra did do whether or not she paid ten thousand
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and the work that actually did occur with sixty.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I think she was responding to all
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: the there was like all that stuff online that Kelly's
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: broke and she got sixty thousand dollars worth of free
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: legal like the ager just you know, like just did
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: all this stuff for free, right, sixty thousand dollars worth.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: So I think she wanted to make a point that
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: no I paid something. Maybe she was discounting it. I
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: don't know how much work that Fadra did on it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: I do know that there was a positive result. So
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: you know, I get how Kelly's like, I get paying,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: and I get how Fage's like, hold on, bitch, I
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: mean it could have been more. I did give you
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: a discount. So I think they both have a you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: a dog, and they both have a valid complaint. I
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: could see how they would both feel actually I'm both
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: on it. But yeah, but I did tell you about
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: that ten thousand last week, and that did come from Kelly.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: I'll been to that, all right, Kelly.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Delightfully just love it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: She adn't be mad about that, no, because I sent
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: your voice. Mama's like, yo, did she do sixty thousands
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: worth the free work for you? That's dope? And She's like, well,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: I did pay some. And I was like, wow, I'm listen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: I do this journalism.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have so much fun in New York, Claudia,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have so much fucking fun.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: I do this journalism thing and throw my body and
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: of the bus and the train. For you people is a.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Red light and the bus not moving. Cloda, you could
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: just chill, no Blue.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: That is not my style. I am an arians. We
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: don't do the tip. We did the whole shaft ball
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: deep Okay.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of a shaft, I don't.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: If I'm missing out you.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Are recover from.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you this, and Dustin can probably can
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: validate and back this up. I tell people, probably I
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: may not be great at everything, but I'm gonna tell
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: you this, there will never be a dumb moment in
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: our relationship. Oh we know that end of the day
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: eight years ago we got together. We've been broken up before.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: He's like, you ain't lying, and everyone does that. We
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: messed up in this function, but it won't be born.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: That's right, God damn it.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Shaft.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Okay, So what's the pagunta again? What's the question?
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: You know, what's down to effect now?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: And I said, I actually, let's get that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I just want to get to this one for
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you because listen, listen, I'm only saying Porta's couch because she's.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: First chair, so leave me alone.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to say Cay Michelle's couch because
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: she's first chair.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Leave me alone.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, So it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Was Portia's couch versus Ky Michelle's couch. And to peggyback
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: off of what Claudia said about Kelly, Drew stepped in
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and you know, like Claudia said, Kelly felt like, Okay,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I need to defend myself because everyone's making it seem
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: like I got no money.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But you know, Andie did say well, girl, you.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Six thousand dollars for a teeth. You don't want to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: say it was thirty. You know pocket that thirty? You
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: know the rest of it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: She said, who said he didn't?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: She did? He didn't?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Right, Drew mentioned, you know obviously she went to Kelly's restaurant,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: said she did go to support but couldn't support because
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: it was closed.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Not true.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I love you, but girl, cousin, no, damn won't. That's
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: why some fish, Drew. This is why everything's possible, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: damn wold. That's a lot Drue cousin, I love you,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: what I haven call you a lot on that one.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: What's the question loose?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the question was are these girls ganging up on Kelly?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: You have favorites? Feeling like she was discredited, and Drew said,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: Come and support you, but I could not support you
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: because my support was not allowed because your restaurant was
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: Closedike was that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're ganging up on Kelly. I think
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Kelly can handle all of them. At the same time,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: there's a viral video of people fighting.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: I love fight videos.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: But there's a viral video of people fighting. This fight
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: on the internet where they're like in a parking lot
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: around the park and there's one person that is taken on.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I think it's a young lady. She's taking on like
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: and motherfuckers at the same time. And that's the energy
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Kelly brought to that reunion stage for sure. And listen,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I'm a person that believes that the reunion stage is
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: the battleground for the tough conversations. It's where you're supposed
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: to show off how tough you are and what you
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: can handle. And that's where people are going to throw
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: whatever they have your way if they are interested in
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: disrupting your experience, and you either can handle that or
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: you can't. And I feel like Candy as well. But
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I feel like Kelly can handle herself on that reunion stage.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: And I also don't feel like it was a pile up.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: These are people who she has legitimate disagreements and issues with.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: It just happened to be more in them than it
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: is her. So you know what I'm saying. It looked
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: like that, but it wasn't a pile up. I don't
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: think she even intimated that it was a pile up.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: She literally just faced each confrontation head on, So I
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: thought it was a fair and powerful the course and
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: the way that it goes on the stage.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And blue Kelly did act poor said to get her naked.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: Mob get her, he said, get your go naked models
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: to get Yes, that was kind of funny.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: It was funny. But they also make money though, so
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: you know it was.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Funny and that's funny.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: You're yeah, it's funnier that that naked open I do.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I think it's diminishing though. I do think she diminished
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: though to the diminished question, As someone who just came
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: out of a four year legal battle, if my lawyer
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: gave me a fifty thousand dollars discount, I might give
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: him a blow job. I'm not this is a joke,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: but I'm just saying a fifty dollars discount is a
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: big deal. Baby.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: There's no world.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just joking. He's a happily married man. I love you, friend,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: but I'm just saying, there's no world where I'm getting
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: a fifty thousand dollars discount where I'm not being anything
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: other than grateful. Like to me, anything other than gratitude
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: was weird to me. So that actually was my least
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: favorite Kelly moment. I was like ill, bitch. She gave
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: you fifty thousand dollars discount when you were looking at
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: four thousand dollar apartments. That's like a rent. I know
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: how to do math, right, y'all talk fast, but I
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: count slow as a tourist. So she offers you a
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: year of housing for free. You welcome, bitch, That's what
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: I would feel. I but fed don't know how to
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: read child. She just starts to make faces.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: But also, don't do nothing for me. If you're gonna
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: wash my face with it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, if you give me
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: the discount, then just let me be give just give
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: me the account. Nobody even needs to know that it
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: is thousand dollars worth of work.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: Yes, she paid me, but when we.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Discussed it, it's a year of housing. Mathematically facts or
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: facts a year of housing when you were you were grateful.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Shamia gave you two weeks. Phaeder gave you a year.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: That's just called math. So it was diminishing. There's no
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: great for me on that because I can count. That's
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: the first thing. What's the next question, Carlos.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Opera, God, what.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I just put a calculator. I didn't do nothing. Controversial.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: That's just called happening account.
• 32:57
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• 33:02
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  Speaker 1: So I'm shout out at Home good I didn't want
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to ask you this, you know. I mean Kelly did
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: say get your gold naked models. She caused the Golden Retrievers.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Angela said you have new teeth and nowhere to sleep,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You broke bitch, Claudia Jordan. Was that a rehears read
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: or was that off the down?
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Well, it's not.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: Really rehearse, if you like, respond to what someone else said.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: So you know what I'm saying, because she was responding
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: to I don't know. I didn't like it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: There are my feelings, and I wasn't even there.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: No, I mean, the no place to stay thing is
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: like kind of like redundant. It's like it's been driven
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: to the ground when we all know it was only
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: two weeks. I'm like, but it was a read in
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: real time. It was it was okay, it was angel
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: still that bitch.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: It's fair play. It was fair play. Kelly was in shaken.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: She had something to say for sure, in return, she
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: had at a return serve. And I don't think that
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: she was offended by the notion of it being said.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: I don't think she liked it, I'm sure, but I
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: think that Kelly came to get down, okay, and that's
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: exactly what she did. So to me, it was not
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: too far. I don't think anything on the stage was
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: too damn far. I think they did with housewives are
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: supposed to motherfucking do on the reunion stage, and I
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: personally enjoyed it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Blue My breathfast took for a second, like, oh but yeah,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, yeah, sometimes the girls
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: get a good look in between that and the gold
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: naked models. I was like, oh, well, the girls are reading.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I will say this though, and we're gonna get to this.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: We're talking about the Peach rankings, because I did have
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: a very stringent and clear way that I ranked these ladies.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: To hear them, Yeah, I'm so annoyed you made because
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't believe in ranking people. I believe
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: we can all co exist in all.
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: You know how many people are gonna make videos about
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: this ship tomorrow mad at the rankings that they don't Oh,
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: I can just see it now. I'm not gonna be
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: on Yes I am.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: They don't have to diematic because we mean it. No.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: But I think that Angela and Kelly. I would actually
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: like to see them make up because I think they're
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: stronger together. I think if somebody ever pissed off Angela
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: and Kelly and they had each other's backs, it would
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: be the fireworks show of the century. So I'm personally
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: rooting for them to become friends. And you know, the
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: girls are weird ship during the off season and come
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: back with new besties. So I'm hoping this is the
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: next remix.
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: People that they hated one these they next season.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I want a Kelly Angela little duo. I need to
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: see that. I need to see it. I need to
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: see it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: Kelly and Angela like they are, they are what do
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: you call them? Carlos sports multipliers, like they get back
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: they did, both of them.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I will say this, I I I actually disagree with Blue,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: but hear me out because you fight.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Messy. You thought you were working on that. I'm like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: you didn't want to get mess.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I don't care. I do want peace.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I disagree.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I know I want pee.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Listen, We'll get to this later. I do want peace
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: with Poria, but.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: That I in the Middle East. You want piece of
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: the middle exactly world piece what happened for that happened.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: So I do want peace, just not with Kelly and Angela.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I will say that.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I know this would have sound so.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Crazy, but listen, I am a real Housewives, motherfucking historian.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I grew up producing Lenipia and Kim Zosiak Mimi Kim Charay.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: So yes, so hear me out. Hear me out.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And Angela and Kelly are forest multipliers. They have the
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I and the tea and when they read the marathon,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and it could go on forever and ever and ever,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and no one's getting tired. I will say selfishly as
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a viewer, I would love to see Angela versus Kelly.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: That's you know.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: How, you know how like no shade we all enjoyed,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like Mimi and Claudia, right, like we all.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Enjoyed Giselle and Karen.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that there is something delicious about Angela
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and Kelly's beef with each other that I know will
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: never get dangerous, which is why I like it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Okay, I see that, and I agree, yep, okay, okay, that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Mess want to mess to a Look at y'all fun,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I know, because they would be also be fun if
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: they were all the same, Like yeah, look back again.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: Some of the biggest beasts like Giselle and Karen, Like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: imagine them partnering up and like taking down someone else
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: that's annoying. Imagine that if me and Ninnie were back
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: on another season and like we had a lunch and
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: we was like, all right, bitch, I'm over yeah me too,
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: but I respect you, I respect you, and then we
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: clowned the someone else.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: That's all we love.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: We love those moments.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: We got that in season twelve when for the brief
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: moment when Porsche and Kenya were on the same side
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: or was that eleven, No, that was twelve when Porscha
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: and Key were on the same side at the snake Gate.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Remember when they were in Toronto and then they cornered
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: they worked together the corner yo yo, Yeah.
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: I loved when Kenya had her baby shower. I flew
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: in for that and then I saw Porscha there and
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: I was like, wow, Like, But what I liked about
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: it was, I'm a side eye when you make up
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: with someone overnight when it was that deep, when it's
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: something where it's like saying horrible, vicious things about each
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: other for a long time, right, and then you have
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: one little sit down or you decide you both don't
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: like someone and you like friends overnight. Because I hate
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: that grinds my gears, shouts Peter Griffins, some family guy
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: that grinds my gear so much. When I see it,
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: I feel like that's so fake and it's so performative.
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: But what I liked about their beef was it happened
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: over time, and that's why it seemed more legitimate, and
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: when it happened it felt very real to watch, like, wow,
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: lookout far yok came years later, you're actually at her
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: baby shower, and like, legitimately they were happy for each
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: other and who would have thought you would have seen
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: that it didn't It didn't, but they did get there
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: after it was and it wasn't so fake like overnight
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: like some of these.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: That's why.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Point listen, I grew Claudia on this.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I think I think, I think it's cute.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: I think it's too I want to watch Angel make
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: up and then fight again, but like, don't make up overnight,
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: and then it just feels like, all right, you're a
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: flip flopper.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Like I want to see them both read each other
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: at least five more times coming to and they can
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: be fun but fun.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: That's why the carter is down.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: Yea, let's speak here, go ahead.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Dev re Union set the stage for season eighteen blood
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: baths between Porscha and Sma, Porsche and Kelly, Kelly and Angela,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Kelly and Porsche, low Key, Porscha and Ky, Michelle, Pinky
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: and Thandra. Okay, the stage was said for all of that,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: So season eighteen, Porscha literally said, Eddie said, where we're
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: gonna go?
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: How where do we go from here?
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Porscha said, immediately to hell, Hell, Hey, Kelly said, I'm fine,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Let's do it baby all season. Kelly is okay, So
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: let's not act like that's not what we're gonna get
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: next season.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: Of course.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can speak for everybody when we say we
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: want these ladies to resolve these issues.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: We don't want this to be no lingering ship it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: But I'm looking forward to.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: The fireworks next season, in season eighteen, when we have
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: already seen these ladies jail together as a cast, some
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: for two seasons, some for next season, it'll make three.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: The conflicts, the beefs, the emotions involve, all of that
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: is gonna be on a very authentic, real level because
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: of the time that they've spent together.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: We're just getting to the good fights. So let them fight, you.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, and like Carlo said, safely to
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: a point where they can come back from it. But
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: we just getting to the fucking good part, you know
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like next season is when we're really
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: gonna get the good shit.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: As a fan of reading, I would like to give
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: a little unsolicited advice to Angela and to Kelly. It's unsolicited.
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: Y'all could say I don't give a fuck what you think,
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: and guess what I'm getting fucked that you don't give
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: fuck what I'm about to say. I don't say this.
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: What makes it read good is something we haven't heard
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: over and over and over again right from you. So please, Kelly,
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: no more references to Angel's big feet. Who cares it's been,
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: it's been, it's been run to the ground, and Angela
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: no more reads about Kelly being broke in her new teeth. Okay,
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: we know that, Like y'all are both clever enough, you're
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: gonna keep it going. Give us some new give us
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: something that we all noticed but we no one said
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: it yet. Then we'll be like, gag. But if it's
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: the same, it's yawn boring because y'all y'all did that.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: We know angel got big feet, we know Kelly got
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: some new ass teeth, and that she she had some
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: financial problems. We know this already, and like it's not
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: a read anymore. It's like, oh god, yeah, yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, I agree, Dustin. I want to
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: you start with this.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Cynthia Bailly and Shamia got into it over the dirty
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: room in Dallas.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Cynthia said she walked.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Through each room and no one called it dirty upon
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: taking it. Media and Kelly said understood the ship was
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: still dirty and that they had to wait two days
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: for it to be clean.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: That Cynthia told me it was clean. Cynthia and Smia
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: had a little bit of a shade off.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: You know, Listen, don't underestimate Cynthia Denise Bailey because she
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: has gone against Mimi Portia, Mary.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Lord, Marklaw.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, so Cynthia and Peter Thomas Honey the biggest housewives of.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Sedra.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Cynthia has definitely battled with the biggest of them. So
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I thought it was very funny to see the split
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: screen between her and Shamia.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: But Dustin, what are your thoughts?
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Do you think not that you have against some context,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Cynthia said, look, I showed you all the room, no
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: one said it was dirty before they claimed it, and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: that she can only rely on people telling her was clean,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: that she didn't physically go there for a magnifying glass
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and a blue light.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: To check. Was Shamia and Kelly oliveline.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Or were they substantiated based on that fact toy okay.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: So first thing we're gonna recognize is the fact that
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: we all know Cynthia would never put them in a
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: dirty room, full stop.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: We know that Cynthia went out of her way to
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: make sure that the room was clean.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: If the room really was dirty, then those ladies obviously
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: would be, you know, kind of thrown off by that,
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: and it would interrupt their schedules of you know, cleaning
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: themselves up and getting dressed for the next event, and
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: that would piss anybody off. So I'm not saying they
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: shouldn't be upset, but Samia and Kelly talked about it
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: in a way that felt accusatory towards Cynthia, and I
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: think that's what the viewers and Cynthia herself kind of
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: took umbridge with, right, But it wasn't a big deal.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: At the end of the day. We all know that
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: Cynthia is a vet, the vet of all vets. She
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: ain't tripping over this bullshit. Shemiah has much bigger fish
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: to fry, so does Kelly. So I think that's why
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: all three ladies kind of just piece it up and
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: moved on. Cynthia was warm and receptive to it, even
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: though they had a little back and forth. You knew
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: it wasn't gonna go too far with those two because
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: they really have no issue with each other.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: So it was what it was.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: But stop acting like Cynthia puts you in a dirty
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: room on purpose, because you know she didn't.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: And that's it. Blue.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: It was tired, child. She's like, we still gotta get
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: out of here. We're still talking about the damn Roomnia
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: was tired. This could have been an email. And I
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: understand her feeling like that because it did feel dragged
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: out and drawn out. And even she said she was like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: so you guys were not clean enough to tape with us,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: but you were still taping and then we're doing the show, Like, yeah,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: we're doing the show over here too. I really hate
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: that they didn't join that dinner, Like I really do
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: hate that they did enjoy the dinner because I feel
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: like they'm not joining the dinner. Is when the Talls
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: and the Smalls on intentionally subconsciously kind of made itself
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: solidified to many of the viewers. I think that was
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: an unnecessary chasm that happened because that was the moment
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: where it became those two. I don't want to say clicks.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: It was exact. I went back and watched the whole season.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah it is, Oh my god, the rain jobs. I
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: didn't think about that. So Dallas was the trip that
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: started the divide.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, over over, over a dirty whatever. So I just
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I wish sometimes it's the smallest thing, the butterfly effect,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: that creates these big things. I think if the girls
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: had been like, the room is dirty, but y'all were
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: all friends, We're gonna go sit down, and some of
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: y'all dressed ups and was not, let's just ki key,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I think that would have been a more fun moment.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Number One, they would have been there for that Pinky
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: and Angela read that was in my the highlight of
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Angela season in my opinion, right, they would have been
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: there for the fun of that, and it would have
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: taken some of the teeth out of everything. So I
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: felt like it was a fun, old school kind of
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: keykey happening at the main table. And then swing little
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: sweet cheery we got the dirty room like it was
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: just a child. It created it unnecessary, and then they
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: kept dragging on the next day where Cynthia was like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: now what else you got? Like, are you serious? We're
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: still talking about this goddamn room. It's been forty eight hours.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: So the room was inconsequential and yet still impactful in
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: a way that I wish it hadn't been.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Ce j.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: It's like, uh, well, then this happened in Potomac in Colorado.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: There was a dirty room and cabin, so cavin so listen,
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: I get where. You're on a reality show and everyone
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: else had a chance to freshen up.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: Girls don't want to do scenes if they don't have
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: their proper glamb, and you feel like Sonos has an
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: advantage over you, and you were over here dusty and mussy,
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: and you know people already talking about oysters and fried fish.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: You definitely want to take a shot before you go
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: to set. Okay, I understand that, but we all know
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: it wasn't Cynthia's fault, Like and y'all know, and I
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: know you guys are newbies, Shemia and Kelly. Maybe y'all
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: really believe that Cynthia has something to do with it.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: I don't believe. I think that was great producing by producers.
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: If y'all did that shit, they away from the group and.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: They have already debunked that. I told you.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: That, can you hit my sound effect?
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: Can I get my sound effects?
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Please?
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: Because that's what that did create the biggest divide it did.
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: That lasted the whole season.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Blue was right.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: It had never got back on since. In a great
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: way to make people beef is something like that and
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: blaming Cynthia, sweet ass Cynthia, when they all know people
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: and producers probably there's probably someone and someone's ear too well,
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: you know, the other girls didn't have a jery. That happens,
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: y'all's follows follows, of course, not on any shows that
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: you produce, but yes, this is happening. It happens, y'all. Listen.
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: They don't want me to talk. They're probably gonna meet
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: me real quick, so I'm just let you on overhow
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: this happens. All the time. Producers will call you and
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: be like, what if you think about what they said
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: at genneral oh, I think they were shading you, And
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: you're like, I didn't really think about it like that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: Now I do, and now I'm mad. I'm I'm telling y'all.
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: I'm telling y'all, this was probably something I could have
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: been squashing five minutes and it got dragged to a
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: whole beef and get creat a beef. It created a divide,
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: and I do think that like, yo, yes, you one
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: percent should have the same clean accommodation as the other group.
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: Hell no, wasn't Cynthia's fault. And y'all, I get you
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: don't want to shoot with the other girls and y'all
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: shop while your pool being dustine instead of you know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: being with the girls. But it did. It did set
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: up the rest of the season. And yeah, you guys
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: were the enemy after that, so you know, great producer
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: though y'all.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was two babies. Yeah, okay.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: About that baby.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: I don't know about the Lakes babies. I don't know
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: if this boys or girl. It's one of them. That's
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: all I know. He's the boy or girl, that's all
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: I know. I don't know the dude date. I don't
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: know the.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Is it gonna be alco. Are we gonna get drinks
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: backstage before the live show?
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, and we'll have.
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: Yes, girl Blue, We're gonna be drinking and adderall.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: On Vegas. I already know this license and in New
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: York too.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: It'll it'll it'll be a time.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm glad we're laughing at this because unfortunately,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: you know, we do have to talk about the breaking
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: news that happened in this reunion. Unfortunately, the embryo that
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Shemiah and Gerald Sarah get took did.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Not pass the first trimester. My condolences obviously to Smia
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: and Gerald.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Smia also confirmed that Gerald never put the pressure on her,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and she put the pressure on her cell.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Because she feels like a failure once again.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: She talked about the fact that you know, Gerald gives
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: her so much and she just feels like this is
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: something she wants to give her husband, who truly does
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: spoil her, and I want to give at to ky Michelle.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: We we well, we did see the first two and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a half parts of this reunion. Was the revelation that
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: came Michelle should bea had this episode that happened at dinner,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: but the fact that Cay Michelle found it within herself
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to say something.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: That y'all know me.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I mentioned the Lord you got me when cay Michelle
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: told Shemiah that when you're down to something, God is
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: up to something, and I thought that, I'm sorry said
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: a long time.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: When you're down to nothing, God is up to something.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, when you're down to nothing. Thank you. When you're
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: down to nothing, God is up to something.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: And I just thought that was extremely beautiful that Claudia,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we can do this.
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: You want to do this, you tell me what to do.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Damn it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that you know you broke the sadness.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: But listen, I want to bring this up. It was
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: a debate on social media whether or not Porscha should
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: have offered condolences to Shemia in this moment, because all
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the other women did, starting with you Blue. Do you
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: think Porscha should have said something in regards to what happened.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: It was a big debate on social media that was divided.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: If someone's dead to me, I owe them nothing, like respectfully,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I was moved to like I got emotional watching what
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Smia was going through. It broke my heart for her.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: I had a thousand percent believed that the pressure was
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: not put on her. It was something she sincerely wanted
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: to do for her partner. I have many friends who
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: are from his same culture who have told me, like, hey,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: I watch the show. I don't think you understand we're
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: from It doesn't matter what he says. Culturally speaking, the
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: family wants that, you know what I mean. So there's
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: some implied cultural norms that Shamiir probably picked up on
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: and took on herself because she knew what it would
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: mean to not just him but his family, you know
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: what I mean. So my heart a thousand percent goes
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: out to Shemiah in every way possible, Like it's bigger
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: than the show even, right, So there's no joke around that.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: And if you talk about my mother crazy, you're dead
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: to me, and I don't owe you shit, and so
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: those two things can coexist. Don't virtue signal after you've
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: crossed certain lines with me, because if you cross the line,
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: you don't get to tell me how to cross back
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: over it. So I don't think Porscher owes her anything
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: because to her should be talking to a ghost. And
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: I do think everybody else having that moment with her
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: made total sense. But yeah, if you ever hear that
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: somebody's done something dirty to me that involves my mother,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: of all people, none of you all better tell me
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: I should have sad shit to them personally.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Dastin.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with Blue one hundred percent on this.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: I think it was actually respectful of Porsche to not
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: say anything right because obviously, like she went on to
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: speak on later, she sees the endearing eyes that Shemiah
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: looks at parts of their friendship and the memories of
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: their friendship with.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: The best thing.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: After the things that they've said and done to each other,
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: said about each other and done to each other, the
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: proper thing to do was for Porscha to do what
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: the gay people called keep it cute.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: And that's exactly what she did. You know what I'm saying.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: She sat there, didn't have anything to say, she wasn't disrespectful,
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: and she just moved. She just minded hers and a
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: lot of more people need to do that the world
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: would be a better place. So I thought both ladies
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: handled that situation.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yes, that's heartbreaking.
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: I disagree. It's called being an adult and having a
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: soul and having listen. The negative of Porscha and Shamia
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: is a drop in the bucket compared to the years
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: of friendship that they were friends. And it can get
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: ugly with you. And I've found grace for someone that
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: I didn't fuck with before I got on the show.
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: A couple of times, you know, I remember when someone's
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: mom was sick with cancer, on the show we did.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to say her name, but Carlos, you
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: know who had nothing but bad things to say about
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: me the entire season, made fun of my sexual abuse,
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: all kinds of things. Maybe you y'all may think I'm
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: a sucker for offering some grace, but when her mom
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: was sick, I put together a care package because I
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: put my stuff aside. My stuff with her is a
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: drop in the bucket compared to what you're going through,
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: and it's just called being a decent human being. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: think Portie made a big mistake by not offering just
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: a word. You're supposed to be the leader of the show,
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: the so called face of this franchise, and sometimes you
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: gotta do things. I even got to give Nini some credit.
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: After our beef of season seven, we went at it.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: We said so much stuff happy this. I talked about
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: a hair, all kinds of things we said. I remember
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: when she had a breakdown at the reunion and we
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: all said some things about it to her, and I'm
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: not going to share rehash all of that, but when
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: I got home from that, it didn't cost me anything
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: to say something nice to her, and it ain't I
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: could have been like, fuck that bitch forever. It's not
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: fucked that bitch for ever. She was having a real
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: moment and and and something was very painful to her.
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: So I did what a human should do and have
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: some kind of empathy. And when I got home, I
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: checked my email. She written me an email and she said,
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: I know we're not a good place, but and I've
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: never posted this or anything, right, hopefully Nina, you don't
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: mind me saying this. She said, I appreciate the kind
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: things you said to me. And I said, you know what,
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: I appreciate you reaching out to me and saying this
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: as well. And this is some real grown woman shit.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: We put our shit aside. And I just would have liked, yeah,
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: I'm on here and you could be like man that
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: bitch for ever. But I just I guess I don't
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: see how how what their beef is as being so evil.
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: They both talked about each other's mother that we can
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: have an argument about who started it, but like to me,
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: there's been worse stuff set on this show about each
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: other and your friend that you had since you were
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: younger lost a last male embryo. I think is a
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: way bigger deal than their petty beefs to me, I
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: think the beeps better. Again. I'm not in it, but
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: I just felt like I feel like she missed an
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: opportunity to show a real leader quality by just saying
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: something like, you know what, although we in a good place,
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: I feel for you, period, don't have to be fake
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: and do a big, long speech. My opinion.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: To me, that's about that's about you.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: It's my opinion.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I understand. But once you bring my mother, if you
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: talk about me, I can forgive you.
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: She didn't bring a mother by himself.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: No, I understand. But my thing is once you cross
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: the line with my mother that certain people have lines,
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: and we're allowed to have different lines. If you talk
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: about my mother or my child, I'm allowed to have
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: that line, and it doesn't make it any less decent
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: than anybody else.
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: Actually doesn't.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: Also, also, I think that it is of note here
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: that this is a very fresh thing for them. That
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: shit in Scotland that really was the breaking point for them.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: It's fairly a fairly recent occurrence. So they're both still
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: very mad at each other. Porsha is still very angry
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: with Shemiah. Shamia is still very angry with Porsha, and
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: I think that it's a bit unrealistic to expect them
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: to be virtuous and you know, and and let their
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: good sense over real their emotion in that moment when
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: it is sufficient. To me my opinion, I think it
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: is sufficient to not have anything to say, not making
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: faces and acting disgusted in the moment or disrespecting, you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: the sanctity of motherhood and the seriousness of what of
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: the loss.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: That Shemiah experienced.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: But that also doesn't mean that you have to then
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: muster up some words to say to a person who
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: you are actively angry with, you know what I'm saying.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: I just think it's a little unrealistic to expect that,
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: and I think it's dope that they just it wasn't anything.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think they allowed their disagreement to touch that
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: situation that surrounding Shamia is lost.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: A reason it's what I'm saying literally is a name
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: for why it's valid not to virtue signal. And I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: would implore people not to self abandon just to look
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: like good, decent people to other people. If you have
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: it to give, give it. But if you don't have
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: it to give, don't lie.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: And if I'm talking about something as personal as losing
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: a damn baby, I don't want anybody, anybody that I'm
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: mad at to say anything to me. I'm gonna take
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: that as if the same way that Porscha felt like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Smia even bringing up her daughter Palar at that table
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: triggered her.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: Right, just bringing her.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: Up, she felt like Shamia was using that as a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: tool to start some shit with her. So if I'm
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: sitting here pouring my heart out about something that's deeply
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: personal as losing my last embryo, which love and prayers
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: and blessings to to to Shamia and her family for
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: that experience, right, But if I'm sitting here kicking it
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: about something that personal, the last motherfucker on earth that
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: better open their mouth. As a person that I'm actively
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: in with, It's not the time. I don't give a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: fuck about the history. According to Will, it just went
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: down between us. The history wasn't shit anyway. Portia literally
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: just sat on the stage and said, flat out, now
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: I'm realizing this was never a real friend. Those experiences
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: were what they were, and she may have had this
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: infer from whatever. They're not at a place where they
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: could connect over something that's serious in their relationship.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: That's just the facts.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: I would only say this if I had been through it,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: that's all. So I do see that. I don't think
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: it's unrealistic because been there, done that, and it is hard.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: It's just I've said I would have loved to see that,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: as I think that would have been a great moment.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: But you know, it's a I am the show. They're
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: not my friends. But yeah, I think.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I will say, listen, I'm split on it in the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: sense I think all of you guys are making great points.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: I do think what we have.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: To remind ourselves is they were, for instance, fourteen, and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: this isn't some beef that occurred because they met on
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: a reality show, right. These women are in their forties.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: This is a thirty plus year friendship. Mothers were involved,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm having this light bulb moment because of
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: what Dustin said, because I am reminded too that this
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: is a fresh beef, and I think to give I think,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: to give both women some grace. I don't have the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: answer in terms of how to handle this level of
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: vitriol with my best teenage friend, and we're at these odds.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: On a national scale where our mothers are involved.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I think when you look at it through that lens,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think there is an answer for I think
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I think Porscha did everything that anybody would have done
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: in that situation based on the history of their friendship.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: This is thirty plus years and I'm not excusing her behavior.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not condoning it. I'm saying this is my opinion.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the right thing to do was
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: in this situation or the wrong things objective That's why.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: That's the point. There is no right. It's too subjective
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: to make harsh statements on either side because not everybody
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: is the same. That's why compatible, they're incompatible. This is
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: another example of why yeah and incompatible, because both are
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: valid and neither is better or more decent or good.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: They're different types of people. Where I come from, I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: don't want my name in your mouth if I don't
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: fuck with you, and especially if it involves a child,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: a mother, or anything sensitive. I come from a culture
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: where the power of the tongue somebody that you don't
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: fuck with, even mentioned in your name, is considered bad juju.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: So for me, culturally, I don't want my name in
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: your mouth. If I don't fuck with you, I don't
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: need your fake canoless, even if it's sincere fine, but
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: I don't owe you access to me or any kind
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: of energy. And I think we need to get out
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: of the habit of not allowing people to be different
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: without diminishing how they move. It's subjective. There's no wrong
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: a right answer, because it's subjective. It's very subjective.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't even know how people can
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: sit there. And I could not even stomach that. Like,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: I feel like I want to tear up now about
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 7: what happened. Like I get what y'all saying. I guess
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: maybe I'm too nice, Maybe I'm a suka. I don't know,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: but like's not too nice.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: It's just it's just a different way of moving. They're
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: both equally valid.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Answer.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: They're equally valid. That's the point is they're equal. Though
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: there's limit is value, they're equal.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: Someone I had many many years with shares on national television.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: She lost her last embryo. I could be mad at
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: this bitch, this bitch my fucking nerves, but there'd be
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: something to me that would be like, but yeah, they're
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: arguing about their mother and mother has been beefing since
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: the eighties. Their mom has been beefing. Okay, we've been
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: known this and the oh they bring up the mothers.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: They both said she put each other's mothers and it
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: ain't the end of the world what they said either,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: We've had worse. You know what the end of the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: world is. What happened to me is embryo. That's the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: end of the world for that, for that baby.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: That irony is. It's motherhood conversation. Embryo is about motherhood.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: And I don't want to argue with you about my opinion.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: I don't like this is so sad you guys, this
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: is so sad to me her.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: But my opinion though, so I get to talk about
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: how my opinion is valid though, So I don't want
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: my opinions.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying opinions not valid.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: That like, I'm not like it's not as decent. Those
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: words hold weight. I never said that, I understand, But
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: it's to say that the decent thing to do the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: alternative is also decent, not to me exactly, and that's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: diminishing you.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Blue.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: I just don't agree with you. And guess what.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Somebody's talking, please, but I'm saying talking.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: We have many times not agreed on this panel, and oh,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: I don't want you to think that I'm diminishing you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: as a.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Poss the mother's girl. It feels that way. I will
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: be honest because for me, my mother is my world
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: and the way embryo would be the world for Shamiyah.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: And because my mother is my world, that makes me
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: as emotional as you are about this embryo.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: I could understand there was a one way thing where
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 7: it was all this season was to mea coming for
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: Portia's mother. I would one thousand cent agree with you.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: I'd be like you damn right, you damn right, because
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 7: I can't hear you because we're talking at the same time.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: I'd be like you, damn right because she was she
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: deserves everything. Because they're a whole season. It's just been
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: one way. She just but it was they were both
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 7: They're both guilty, right, So I'm just like they almost
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: like watch themselves watch each other. In my opinion, that's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: why there's fourth where is so we can afford different pinions.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry everythink I'm diminishing you. I just don't agree
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 7: with your bit, I don't agree with your take, and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: that's okay, because there's been many a show you don't
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: agree with mine, and that's okay.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: We're still gonna I don't disagree with your take. I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: think they can coexist equally. So that's the thing. I
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: don't disagree with your take. I think your take is
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: valid for you and my take is valid for me.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: So that's actually the difference. I think they're all valid.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 7: It's not the difference, but I'm saying the same thing.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: We just don't agree with each other.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Look, I do want to say this because I don't
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: want to spend too much real estate on just that moment,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: because what I what I would like to do is
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: sort of talk about the bigger conversation. So what I'm
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: gonna do is sort of use this opportunity to transition
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: to the end, which is the state of Shami and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Porta's friendship. Listen, what happened, which I think, well, let
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: me not assume, but I think all four.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Of us can agree that it was nice.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: To see Shemiah hug it out with the opposing couch
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: in terms of just saying like, look, it ain't that
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: deep that what we got going on and we'll see
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: what happens next season.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: What I do think is deep as this.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I think the reason why this season was so activated.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: And I was talking to a friend of mine.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Because she kept saying to me, like, what wasn't about
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: this season of Atlanta Housewives that rattled people? And I said,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: because you had a best You had a set of
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: best friends who fell out over something that yes, they
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: went through each other, but the history of their mothers.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: And I said, everybody, black, White, Latino, Asian, Latina, whatever
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: the race may be, can relate to that because we
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: all look at ourselves and say, what would I do
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: in that situation?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: And that's why listen.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to YouTube Balloon and Claudia,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I love the healthy conversation of what is the appropriate
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: thing to do in these situations? And that's why for me,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I don't For me, this is Carlos King speaking. I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: don't have the answer. I don't know what I would do.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Y'all know me personally, y'all know I'm the King of grace.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Dustin knows that people try them all the time, and
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I find my way to reach the high road. But
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I also know there is a wrong road. And I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: just I think it's I think it's nice to say
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: any of.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Us would do something that situation.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I just think it's so unfortunate that we do have
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: these two women. I'm gonna say this, This is gonna
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: sound like a fucked up thing to say, but I'm
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: only speaking from my heart, and I'm sad to even
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: say this because I know those girls, Shemia and Porsche
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: will never be friends.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: They will never be friends. When Porsche said.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Like Dustin said earlier, I saw her endearing eyes and
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I saw that there was something I could I at
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: least appreciate it. This is my opinion that Porscha clocked it,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: because all four of us did. And remember from the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: top of this season, all four of us said, we
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: kind of see Shania looking at Porscha away where she
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: misses her, and we all I think, well, I'll speak
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: for me. I thought Porscha never saw the look because
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: she gave it nothing, no shade. But when she says
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: she saw it in her mind, she was like, maybe
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: we can get to that. I think, based on what
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: I saw, they will never be friends. To me, I
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: don't even think, guys, on some real shit, they will
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: be cordial. I think in the knee Ney Leaks catchphrase
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: of the door is closed, I think that bitch is bolted, padlocked,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: bringing camera security guards. I think there's dogs outside. I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: think there's a fence. I think there's bob wire on
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: the gate. I think these two will never ever ever
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: see it for each other. And the reason why I
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: feel that way is because when Andy brought up the mothers,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I my mouth was on the floor. And this is me,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: as a producer and a host of the reunion. When
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Andy asked the obvious question to me as a producer
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: and a host, Okay, well this is what happened to you.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: It should be a about your mom and your daughter.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I when Porsia said, I'm trying to figure out while
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: we're bringing up my mother and my daughter, I said.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: And Blue, I'm gonna start with you in that moment.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: And that's why I love this topic of the show,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: because again I don't know what the right or wrong
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: thing is. I will say to you, as a producer
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and a host, I would have done the exact same
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: thing Andy did, which is asked the question that redefined
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: this season.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: I did not know that Andy was not.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Supposed to bring that up because we saw it on
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: the show. But that's when I realized this shit is.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: Deeper than what it is. So Blue, I want to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: start with you on that.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Do you You mentioned earlier that you agree with Porsche
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: that don't bring up my mother and my daughter.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: What are we doing this?
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: But I thought it's because it was brought in the show.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Oh and the reunion is the stage to talk about it.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: So Andy wasn't wrong for asking, right. I don't think
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Andy was wrong for asking is to your point, it
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: was the obvious answer. Here's the thing that people need
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: to understand. When you are someone who is incredibly high
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: functioning strategic, takes it on the chin, has people like
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Kelly and so and so giving it to you, and
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I could give it back, right. We've
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: all talked about this in different shades, about how Portia's
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: a vet, now she's a strategist. Now she's playing the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: smart game.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: Claude's even mentioned that there are moments where she looks
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: at port She's like, oh, she's playing chess while the
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: girls are playing checkers. When you are somebody who is
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: functioning at that level, your grace is the fact that
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: you're a good sport because you're down for a tussle, right,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: people like that, And I'm saying this professionally the work
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: that I've done. People who are that supple everywhere else
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: have a hard line somewhere. The reason why you can
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: tussle and do all that stuff and not cry and
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: not take it personal because there's something that you will
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: take incredibly personal, and there's a line you can't cross
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: with them, and that line is finite with them. I'm
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: on somebody like that, right, I have a line like that.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: My line will always be my mother for me personally.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: So we just happen to have the same line, which
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: is why I instantly understood it. There is nobody on
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: this fucking planet, excuse my French, who can talk about
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: my mother and ask for grace wives at any moment.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: After that, you're gonna have to die mad without me.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: The eulogy has been said, and so it does not
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: surprise me, she said, And I think, Carlos, you even
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: said this. My child and my mother, those are the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: two things I'll do everything else in this ecosystem. I'll tussle,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: I'll argue. You can bring up a married man Simon
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: the Africans. You could do whatever you want. The only
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: two things you cannot do are polar my mother and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: she stood on it. So why are we being surprised.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: There's nothing to be surprised about. She stood on it.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: Some Pece people actually mean what they say. I know
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: there's some folks who will say something, but there's certain circumstances.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Not everybody has circumcircumstances. Some people say what the hell
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: they mean? And I think she meant that shit, which
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: is why. And I looked at her face. I watched
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: it twice. She didn't make any faces. It was the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: biggest poker forrace. She was literally still and Eddie said,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: you're shooting daggers at me, and she said, I don't
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: understand why we're talking about the thing that I told
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: you I wouldn't be talking about. Further, I respect it
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: because I moved the same way. So whether I'm a
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: good person or not, people know, I'll give all the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: grace in the world until you hit that line. And
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: the line is pretty deep in. You can get a
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: lot of things off on me before we get to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: that line. And so it's like, because we've seen Porsha
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: be a good support about everything else. Why are we
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: upset about the one thing that she won't play with?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 9: I don't get it, Claudia, what's the question the episode?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: So do you is there when.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: When Andy brought up the elephant in the room, which
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: is the moment that read the this season obviously in
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Scotland portionshal Me the mother drama. Were you surprised by
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: p Porsia's reaction? Was it substantiated? And do you think
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: this show can coexist with the two of them?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: I don't know, because I do think that it is
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: over as well. I agree with you. I do think
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: that it's over. I think they'll never you know, be
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: friends again, and probably rightfully so. I mean I think
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: this season, if anything exposed that maybe well not maybe
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: they've definitely weren't the friends that they both thought they were.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: And they both can make an argument for that, you
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: know what I mean, like, well, damn I didn't know
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: you was Damn you never had my back, Damn you
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: was kind of bringing up conversations with girls like they
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: both have a claim on that. It ain't one sided.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 7: They both can say some things that the others did
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 7: that kind of contribute to mind of their friendship. Yeah,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be like Talls and Smalls again, I guess,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 7: which is kind of annoying, you know, but.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: It's not good. I will say that.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 7: I I didn't like it either. I felt like it
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 7: was just it made it. It just felt like so negative.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: And then when new girls or people on the show, like,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 7: it's making people that had issues with others say, for
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: f them, Mom's gonna jump on either just team Shmi
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: or Team Portsche and then we just get two camps
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: and I think that's whack. I think that's corny. I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: think it's took away. I think the show started off
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: with like some legitimate grice people had that could you know,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: they weren't like super like bad where it's like end
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: of the world type shit, but they were like shady things.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: It just like everyone just forgot about that and they
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: just jumped into either one of the two teams and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: it just it just kind of I personally don't like it.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: Like I'm actually glad the season's over because I don't
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: know how much more that shit I could take, honestly,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: like this last and we went from the finale of
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: the show being kind of fun, a little bit of
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: hope of course not hope between Sami and Portsie, but
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: they were able to be in the same room. It
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: wasn't evil. And then for this it just felt just
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: so yucky. It really did like I'm glad you do
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 7: on that you said you do agree with me?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: No, no, I'm saying I think, and Carlos are like,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: we mess. I think you and I walked away with
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: the safe no offense. That's what y'all said.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: We were mass.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: We don't want nobody to get along.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm a clipping found that was not about
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: me and Porsche.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: That notion of me and Porsche. It was about the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: other people I know.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 7: But no clip, no clip.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: It want to answer, can you let me and my
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: Claudia have our moment? Let us land the plane so
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: Clada as I was saying, you and I, on the
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: other hand, we walked away kind of grossed out, like
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: this is just so negative. Can we just give it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: a rest already? And I agreed that. I think the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: episode Episode three grossed me out a little bit. Episode
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: three was a little bit more greasier than I needed
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: it to be because the retrospective of twenty sixteen to onward,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: as someone who knows how painful. Here's the thing. I'm
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: the girl with the shtrong boundaries, but I still crying
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: the shower. Fuck you talking about my mama, But I'm
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: still crying the shower afterwards, I'm still you know, I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: would hate to see my most painful friendship breakup in
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: a montage that you would now ask me to talk
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: about it. That was horrible to me. It was. I
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: hated it. I hated it. I hated it. I hated it,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: and I can't imagine how hurt both Porsche and Shamia
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: felt being put in that position. So Claudia, I'm glad
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: it's over moving forward.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 7: If if the mom thing is such a hard line
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 7: with Porsche, which it should be, right, it should be
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 7: excited to all the mothers. Okay, unless the goddamn let
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 7: me die. Unless the mothers are going to be on
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: the show and hash it out and be at the reunion,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: let's leave. And that means ask for everyone came a show,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: don't be talking about Smia's mother to MEA's mom, don't
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 7: be talking about the girls, Porscha's mom. Don't call to
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: me a dog harrying the bone, or whatever else was
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: being said. Maybe the mothers need to just not be
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 7: a part of the show, because I feel like that's
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: what stopped them from even like moving, like repairing their friendship.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: I think that, like Porscha did say, I think I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: saw something that there could have been she was open
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 7: to it. Maybe I don't know if she really was,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: but I'm gonna take her at her word. And I
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: think the mother thing from both, you know, just took
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 7: it to the next level and it got ugly, right,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 7: it got very ugly. And then it's, well, you talked
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: about my mom, will you talked about my mom too?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: And yes, they're both the rights, so maybe the mom
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: things can a they all keep the mamas out unless
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 7: the mamas want to hold peaches whole little baby peaches
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 7: and be on the stage. Because I think it's I
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: think we were cheated out of them, a redemption story
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: and all that because of some stuff with these ladies.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 7: They're not really technically on the show like that, you know,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: And I hate that because imagine, like y'all became friends
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 7: when y'all mama's had beef right, y'all already they already
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: had their issue and threw it all y'all were able
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 7: to power through and say let's keep my moms out
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: of it. And then second season of a reality show
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: together it blows up and it just puts it dead.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 7: Any hope. Think about all the conversations they had, all
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 7: the stuff they really know about each other, all the tea,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 7: all the time they lean on each other, whether they
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: had a flowed of relationship or not, which I do
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 7: think they did. But damn, that sucks. That sucks.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: That's Scotland moment, Claudia.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: Win, You're gonna let me go?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: Oh so sorry, so sorry? Yeah, no, cuse Claudia did
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: a great point about how there was a moment in
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Scotland when Portia defended Shemiah and I had a little
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: bit of hope.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: Okay, st when me and Blue and I can talk
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 7: for five minutes.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: If that's yeah, would you like me to repeat the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: question between Venus and Serena over here?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: It is good television.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: September twenty I got a point. I gotta play hell out.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, is that a penis?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: Oh no, father, I'm so sorry. That's Prince Albert. I'm
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: so sorry, that's Prince Albert. I'm so sorry. I'm a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: nasty girl. Let me mute.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: I'm muting right, Blue, what's supposed to be letting him talk,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 7: Let this negro talk. Let Dustin Dunston speak. I'm meeting
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 7: myself too.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: I don't even remember what the fuck I'm supposed to
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: be pontificating on Okay.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: And his friendship Andy bringing up the Porscha shuting it down,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Candy to coexist.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: Yes they coexist, Yes they can coexist. And big Porsche
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: not the little one.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Because when Porscha said she didn't want to talk about something,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: everybody fell in line. And I was fascinated by that.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: And I love to see people take up space like
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: that in the spaces that they occupy. And Shemiah was
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: subordinate to that notion, right when Porscha said, I'm not
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: talking about this, and that Shemiah kind of just agreed.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: She acquiesced, And so I think that it's telling, you
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Porscha is still running things over there,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: and hey, if they're gonna let her do it, let it.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: That's the way that shit go down, you know what
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. And if I don't know, I agree. I
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: think that both Claudia and Blue made great points. I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: think that if the right thing to do is to
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: hand yourself with some grace and some dignity, but also
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: you better not say nothing about my motherfucking mama or
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: my baby if I have one, so you know, let
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: it all play out. Now, here's the point I've really
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: been dying to make. Right here, Oh your point running
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: shit doesn't.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: Okay because that was made understood. My thing is this.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: I have been watching the Real Housewives of Atlanta since
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: season one, episode one, which means I persevered through seasons thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: and sixteen. I deserve the wholeness that season seventeen provided
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: me when it felt to when it comes to the
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: cast feeling solidified, when it comes to these women having
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: two seasons with each other and now getting ready to
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: have another season with each other jelling. I deserve that
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: that show was all over the place for seasons thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: and sixteen. Now that things finally come back together, y'all
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: want to tell me they being too mean, They was
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: too hard at the reunion, it was.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: Too much fighting.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: No, now we're finally getting real fights. No fights about well, Candy,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: you didn't send flowers to my sister two years ago
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: and some shit happened, and even though I've been talking
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: to you all this time since then, Now I'm gonna
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: call you a hoe, and Charae's gonna agree, and y'all
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: gonna like this. Y'all, we didn't get that. We finally
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: got real portion. This portion in shmias. Shit is real,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And we hope to see
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: it through to a better brighter ending for them, but
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: at least we're getting authenticity. I've been as a person who,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: like I said, persevered through seasons thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: sixteen when we finally thought we were getting it again
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: and it got interrupted again.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: God damn it.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: We deserve what we got in season seventeen and we
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: needed to hold fast through to season eighteen. Now, that's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: all I wanted to say. Y'all can go ahead and
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: continue making it.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: I'm the fact, Thank you please.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 9: Dustin as the yogurt after a spicy meal, I like
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: to point out that we still have two minutes of silence.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: Bloom.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: No, motherfucker, No, I'm just.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: No so rain jobs. Let us know the comments.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I will say this as a producer, I have never
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: ever experience what these producers are about to experience. I
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: have all the answers I don't have with this one.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I sometimes will put myself in their shoes when I
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: watched some.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Episodes, like what would I have done differently? Right?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm very close to Portia, as everyone knows, I'm close
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: to Shamiyah.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: I don't even know which.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Is why listen, I'm laughing, but dust It, it was funny.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Dust It, Guys. I gotta admit when Porscha shut that
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: shit down, I will I love.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: He was like, it's a show.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: Just admit you were.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: I was because I'm gonna tell you what it was
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: for me. It was Portia looking like this.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just wonder to Barby, I said, it reminds listen.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: I've had a couple of girls checking me on my show.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: When I host reunions, they shove remain nameless. I got
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: I got checked twice. Doesn't know who they are, and
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: one of them I looked at, said.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: No, Claudia, real life. I'm gonna say this one Destiny.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Destiny tried me on Huntsville once.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: My fellow taurists us uh.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Actually she pulled up blow to Claudia and and I said,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: here I go.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: She said.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: While we talking about this, I said, Destiny, I'm trying
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: to land the plane.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: She said, I hope, so I did just like this.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I've seem Destiny all day. Y Alardy don't
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: have a bias so like like Destiny, Remember.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: I said, yes, I remember.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: Literally I digrass.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: I digrad. So anyways, I am are you okay, friend?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: You still look upset about it? All?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: Okay? Anyways, I don't the producers this is this is
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: it's bad.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: Is that company Carlos?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: Someone just walking your house? You got distracted. I just
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 7: saw that. You just you're looking over there. So yeah,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 7: you're gonna try to act like it was your dog,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 7: your dog, it was not.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: Are you tapping at a man pretending it's a dog.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: He's not going to act like it's a dog. After
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: the fact that I saw he looked up. The dog
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: is not the dog.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's trying to So anyways, my point is I
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: don't ended the producers on the show this season.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: It's going to be very hard. But baby, what I
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: will say is I said what I said, and I've
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: been saying, it's just day one, y'all got mad. Not y'all,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: not y'all. Oh girls, that ship down and it was like, okay, so.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Andy crossed his legs and said, so they're not control
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: room like, you got to give it up.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: You got to give it up when a motherfucker somebody like.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: That, Hey baby, I have baby, listen Ninni.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: The only thing Nini ever said was what did she say? Dusted?
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: She with a black dress sees it?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: Oh, She's like okay girl, damn that that was. That
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: was when I was like, what's wrong with her?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: And that's when Cynthia fried her ass and was like,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: well let us fall all over then you know what
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: I'm saying?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: Okay, and they echoed it. Shout out to the producers.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to say the time. Okay, by
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: the way, great season we are.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: Now, can we come for us to help?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 10: Weeks twenty twenty weeks twenty weeks blue before before we
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 10: get to rate that, Peach, Claudia, myself and Dustin.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Warned you y'all hate you.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Remember we said when we recap Atlanta, Housewives is a
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: different beast, is a different energy, The fans are different,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: the cast is different.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: I say, it's a very different feeling so blue.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Before we get to rate that, Peach, what was your
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: experience like recapping Atlanta Housewives on Monday Night Live.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: Y'all popped my cherry. And it's been quite a while
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: since I've been able to say that. I haven't been
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: a version in a while. I feel very exposed. But
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: I man, y'all, y'all undersold it. Even with the warnings,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: y'all under sold it the amount of times people walk up.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: I don't like blue, I like pink, which tickles the
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: fuck out of me. By the way, I will say
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: this though, doing the show with you guys has reminded
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: me why I'm perfect for platforms like this, because I
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: still don't give a damn. But I enjoyed it though.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: But like, there's a certain level of healthy apathy you
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: need to Dust will tell you. We've talked about this,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: a certain level of apathy. Even Claudia, I reposted your
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: thinking about it today. There's a certain level of I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: don't give a fuck, Like I give my pants for
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: the show and then I go out with my life.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: I like confirming that I am who I thought I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: was when it comes to the show. And also to
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: I like the tussles, like I like that me and
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: Claudia can have a spicy conversation and next thing, you know,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: Dustin says some kumbai ash it and then Carlos gets
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: around by portrait.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: I like this show.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: I like the mast like you like I'm having a
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: good time.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, okay. So the time has come.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: As we give our report card of the peach Holders
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: this season. Honorvery mentioned to I'm not gonna say a
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: friend of anymore because she has a past that what
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: should we call her?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: The god mother? Yes?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I want Yeah, I want to give a shout out
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: to Cynthia Denise Belly for being the godmother of this
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: season and who truly has redefined the role of what
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: it means to be a VET, a legacy housewife and
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: coming in to play with the girls. And she has
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: done it in a way that I really no longer
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: want my legacy vets to be holding anything. I want
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: them to come back to be like Cynthia Belly. So
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: I want to give a warm shout out Yes, Cynthia Belly.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 11: Ronava Paul and look looks the best I've ever seen
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 11: at She's getting even more like she's already dropped dead gorgeous.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 7: Even when I saw in down, I'm like, oh my god, girl,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 7: like even like she was always here and then she
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 7: went I love a higher. I'm like, wow, yes, she's.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: More attractive now, like I want to age like that,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: like I want to really is.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I love it happy and it shows.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: And just so y'all know, the Peachlight single is coming
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: out this Friday, so make sure you guys. You can
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: pre order it now, pre save it, pre download it,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: but make sure you guys get it rain Drops this Friday. Okay,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: August twenty eighth, make sure you guys cop the Peach
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: Light Cynthia Belly's newest single. Okay, and when y'all do
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: tag her so she could be posting her stories all
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: right now, the moment has come, Laudia, Dustin and Blue
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: for us to rate that Peach So rain Drops, we
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: are going to rate it.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: Come on, graphics, this is hilarious, this is fucking We
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: are going.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: There's eight Peach holders.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: We are basing their performance, guys on personal story reads, shade,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: star power, and their overall performance on the show.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: So we're going from eight to one.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: Okay, so we all say in our eight and then
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 7: we all say seven. One person go all in a row.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, one person goes. We're gonna do it separately.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: One person goes first, then the next person.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, but you.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Gotta start from eight to one, and you are allowed
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: to state your reasons why if you want to, if
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: you want to, so to pop this cherry of peaches.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, Dustin raw, where the D is not silent?
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: Please?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: Oh give up capital mm hmm.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: Itolicized or not?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: You leaning?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna call human resources on you, Carlos.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: He said, would have left.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 7: Wait a minute, harassment for my friend here, my club. Enough,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 7: he's a brain brain being a little bit, he's a person.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 7: Why are we just setasizing him? Dick man from New York?
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: Is that that is what I've heard?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's allegedly allegedly allegedly.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 7: No, he said it wasn't allegend the last feelings you guys, allegedly?
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, come on, sound the fact now, Dustin kick things
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: off starting with number eight.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, So okay, here's my list.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep this ship short and sweet because it's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: nine twenty seven and I'm ready to go.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: So here's the thing.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: Right, and I love it here and I would rather
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: be nowhere else, right, But we've been here, So.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 7: Here's my list.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna give you the rankings and offer a
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: brief explanation and then pass it to my sisters and
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: my brother. Number eight is a tie for me. I
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: could not decide between the two, so number eight is
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: a tie between Phaedra and ky Michelle. They tied for
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: the number eight spot in my book, I thought that
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: both ladies had great performances on the reunion stage. I
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: enjoy both ladies on the reunion stage, but that is
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: where it stopped for me. I feel like they kind
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: of fell short during the season, and I think they
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: both had potential to do really amazing things that would
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: connect them with the audience in new ways and both
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: of their case scenarios, but we didn't get that. I'm
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: hoping that we do get it next year. I was, however,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: pleased with both ladies on the reunion, So number eight
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: is a tie for me between Phaedra and k Michelle.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: Coming in the number six spot for me is who
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: Angela Oakley? Love her to death. I think that she
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: is one of the new Marquee housewives of Real Housewives
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: of Atlanta. I think she's necessary. I think that she
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: fell short this season, and I think that her mistake
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: took up too much space in the season. In her
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: personal straight overshadowed all the other things that she could
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: have been talking about, and I didn't like seeing my
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: girl scrambling like that. I still think she's an incredible housewife.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: It was a rookie mistake, sophomore mistake, but it just
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: took up too much space of the season. It distracted
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: me from her for the season. So she's number six.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: Number five Pinky, motherfucking call. Pinky added comic relief to
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: this season in a way that I didn't even realize
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: was necessary.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: But I'm so grateful for Pinky. Don't give a fuck.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: She says what's on her mind. She laughs, un scene,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: she doesn't care in a way that is she's just
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: She doesn't take herself too seriously, and it feels good
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: amongst a lot of serious issues going around.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: So I love Pinky. I think that she's a perfect
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: fit for number five.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: Number four, I have Drew Sodora, who I feel like
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: coasted this season, really but coasted in a way where
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: she was self assured Drew has been here since season thirteen.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: This is now season seventeen, so this was her fifth
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: season as a housewife, and I think that it shows
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: Drew knows the confessional space now.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: A lot better.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: Her interviews are some of her best moments, and even
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: in scenes she speaks up, but it's still composed in
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: a way that was interesting to watch for me.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: Number three Shemiah. I love Shamiah on this show.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: I still think that there are great things in Shemiah's
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 5: future as as a part.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 6: Of this cast.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: Shemiah had a tough season and I think she fell
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: short when it came to her response to things and
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: the way that she shows up. I think that an
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: example of that would be what she did on the
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: reunion stage when Andy would ask Portia a question or
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: Angela a question and they would say something that was
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: blatantly their take, and Shemiah would go, well, I mean,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: actually I agree too.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: I don't want it to happen.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: I just feel like instead of just being like no,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: I don't like her because she fucking did this to
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: me and this is why I fucking feel like that.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: And Shemiah needs to take up.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: She needs to own her space more in a way
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: that reflects what we saw in the first episode from
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: season sixteen. Rewatch that. Find your power and show up
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: stronger in that way. It's not just about cussing somebody
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: out or having a smoking gun of information. It's about
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: prowess and I want to see Shemiah kind of rain
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: over these girls in that way. Number two the biggest
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: Kelly you know what I'm saying. I'm sorry. Kelly Potter
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: is a wonderful new addition to the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: Kelly don't give a fuck about what she says to anyone,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: and it's not in a way that's reckless. It's in
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: a way that's audacious, you know what I'm saying, And
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: in a way that's bold, and it's like, I can't
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: believe she said that, But it's what you need on
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: this show.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 6: Everybody always says if.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: It doesn't have any drama, you guys aren't gonna pay
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 5: attention to it. Y'all, don't watch the shows that don't
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: have drama in Kelly is willing to go to and
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: cross a line that is necessary to make an ensemble
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: cast show like this interesting.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: Whether you like her or not.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: You need a firestarter, and she lit that fire off
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: season and she's gonna do it again next season. I
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: love what Kelly brings to the show and I appreciate
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: her on it. Number one for me, big dog Porsche,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: it is what it is. Porsia did a great job
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: leading this cast of ladies this season. She ushered the
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: new ladies in, She got in the paint when she
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: needed to. She was honest about the lesbian shit, and
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: I love that for her that she reached that point
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: where she could be forthcoming about that, and I feel
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: like it neutralized a lot of people who would have
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: used that in some way against her. So I appreciated
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: her performance as the leader of the cast. And what
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: sealed the deal for me having the number one spot
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: was Porscha sitting on their reunion stage with them legs
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: crossed arm over that left leg, and she looked at
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: Andy and said, I'm not talking about my mother and
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: I'm not talking about my daughter, and everybody fell in line,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: and that was it. You know, there was an opportunity
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: for the other ladies to be like, well.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: She might not be, but I am.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: I didn't appreciate what dad, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: And they didn't do that, and I think that reflects
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: leadership hardly what you want that. This does not mean
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: that I, you know, have agreed with everything that these
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: ladies have done, and that is why I ranked them
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: that way. It's just my real reflections and shout out
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: to the og of LG's Cynthia Bailey, who I love
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 5: on a personal level.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: So that's that for me.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: All right, Wow, Okay, that was Dustin Raths.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Up next we have the beautiful blue centric blue Centric
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: rate your rate that pache starting from number eight.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: So my metrics were like your what y'all know? I
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: like me a linstunny metropole. Virgo loves this. So I
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: also added emotional regulation to my list of the metrics
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: you gave, like who was ten toes down? Y'all know
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: how I feel about say that shit or don't say
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: that shit. So for number eight, like Dustin, I was shocked.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna be provocative. I have Fadriak
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: Michelle tied for number eight because how you show up
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: the last day of work and want to tussle? But
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: it was it was a good last day of work, right,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: So I think because they missed fifteen episodes of work
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: they have to be just as far as docking their pay.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: I also think too, that they're the ones that I'm
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: feeling like they know they're behind. I think Fader and
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: k Michelle Loki agreed because cam Michelle alluded several times,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: well I finally understand the show now, like she's like, oh,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: I finally got it. Yes, the show is over, baby,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: it was. It's over. So came a show and and
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 4: Fader just because you know, I have to dock your pay. Actually,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: number six for me is drew S Door because her
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: only storyline was Ca Michelle on a horse, and so
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do with that.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: A horse, Claudia, Oh yes, a horse, where's the sound effects?
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: It was the horse, and the thing is I like Drew.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: I liked Drew a lot. Wait, not the horse. I
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 4: actually personally liked Drew a lot, and I love the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: points that were made about how she finally hit is
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: like gotten into her groove. But there was a much
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: storyline for me there aside from a horse and a
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: man on a phone. So because of that, she had
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: to be number eight. Number fourth actually for me is
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: a tie.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait, that was.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: Because there's ties. There's two ties. Yeah, so eight is
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: shared between a Phaedria and k Michelle. Six is drew
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: by herself because the seven would have been from one
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: of the other two and four is a tie between
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: Angela and Pinky because they're like oscillating fans. Sometimes it's
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: hot and amazing and like, girl, what you're talking about?
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: And the fan just kept on going. Sometimes I was
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: clapping for them, other times I know what the hell
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: they were talking about. When the fan was on, it
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: was dope. When it wasn't, I was like, we could
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: have just kipped that scene. That could have been an email.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: So because of all the cameos and the bad reads
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: and the inspector gadgets and the whoever else did a
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: man give you a check for touching your booty? It
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: was all weird, all the question marks right, but when
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: it worked, it really worked. So because they were both
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: hit or missed for me, I either loved them or
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: didn't care. They both got them before as a tie.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: Number three is Shomia because I did put an emotional regulation.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: Shamia has to be in the top three for anybody
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: who's paid attention because Shamilla was a lot of people's storylines.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: We have to give.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: Her her her. I say, tens on twenties, twenties on sixties.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know, y'lad do the math. But Shamillah was
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: ten on twenty.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 7: Please don't mess saying I worked on it.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: Ten on twenty. Okay, you're really you going to the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: drugs for that? Anyways, I don't remember Dustin having all
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: these sound effects. No, but Shamiah was a top three.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: In fact, what's interesting is had Shamia been more audacious,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: it would have been a two, right, But the lack
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: of audacity, I had to take some points off, even
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: though Shemia, honestly, I hope you understand that whether you
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: feel seen or not, because I do know that emotional
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: and she wants to feel seen and understood. Your relevancy
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: is undeniable at this point. Nobody ever in life can
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: ever call you irrelevant. You were very much the storyline
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: this season. Now. Number two is fascinating for me because
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: I was watching the show with some people that I
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: was working with, and I was like, Kelly, don't give
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: a fuck, and they both said, Louie, you don't give
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: a fuck.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 9: Me.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: It's just the fuck, not me being a Kelly of
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: money and not live. So because I'm not a hypocrite,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: because just show up knocking it over, like hey, I'm here, bitch.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: So because I'm not a hypocrite, I do have to
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: give Kelly number two. The girl worked for every every
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: dollar she made, she worked for her money. And number
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: one has to be Malcolm X. I mean Porsche, who
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: who's just put a hand up and everybody turned. I
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: ain't never seen no shit like that on reality TV
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: and my goddamn wife. The last time I saw that
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: was Denzel on Malcolm X. Okay, I ain't never seen
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: a rhythm. Nation ain't got shit on Porsche. My god today,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: my brother, I'm an audacious bitch. Even I was like,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: maybe I would have shut the fuck up too if
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: I would sit on that couch. I nini shaded so
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: Porscha could blank stare. Okay, So love her or loathe her,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: we are not haters. Bitch kiss the ring, I guess
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: or not, but either way, you you don't one wearing it.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: So I gotta give her. And the funny thing is
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: me from two years ago, who was mad about her,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: and Simon would be shocked to hear me say this,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: But to Claudia's porn. We gotta give people our credit,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: whether we fuck with them or not. So Porsche, I
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: think it's pretty undeniable that you are that shit. And
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: I think even Andy knows her at this point. And
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: that is my list.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you Blue. Up next we have Claudia Jordan's list.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan's starting with number eight.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 7: I agree with a lot of this stuff the rankings
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 7: towards the end, and I'm glad that we are all
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 7: on the same page. I have Fader in the number
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 7: eight spot. I think this is the best she's looked
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: though in her confessionals. I love a lot of her outfits.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: And I wasn't a Phaser fan. Well I'm not a
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 7: favor fan, let's be real, but I think she was.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 7: We were all waiting for fad of yesteryear when she's
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 7: with the Ogs, and I think the bar is severely lowered.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna get to more of that in my rankings.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 7: The bar is lower now because the amazing OG's, the
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 7: ones that were on the Mount Rushmore are not there.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 7: So now we're impressed by things that would not be
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: a big deal back in the day. So Phedra I'm like, yo,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 7: where's that phaser that could like, you know, gave that
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 7: that read to Kenya that she wrote down like you
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 7: know even now, like we didn't get that, but she
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 7: did look good and I did like that she helped
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 7: out Kelly. I thought that was seeing a charitable side
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: of her. I like that. Number seven I got ky
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: Michelle because she was only active for two episodes, And
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 7: I'd be damned if I put someone in the top five,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 7: top six if you only work for two episodes. Now,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 7: when you did show up, you were really unpredictable. I
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 7: didn't know what we're gonna get, Like, oh, you're gonna
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 7: be up, you're gonna be down. We don't know what
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 7: personality gonna get. But what's frustrating with someone like that is,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 7: damn you have it, but you chose to not give
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 7: it for like fifteen episodes. So I just think there
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 7: is room for growth there. I give number six to
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 7: Pinky only because I felt she came off one dimensional
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 7: in the show when we do know, as Dustin said,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 7: she is funny, she is smart, she got her husband
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 7: that loves her, that's rich. She's an actual housewife, something
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 7: that is very rare on this franchise. There's hardly any
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 7: wives left. She's a wife with a bomb ass husband
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 7: for what we know, and we didn't get to really
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 7: see enough of that. You know, it's I think it
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 7: was like what was episode three four when they finally
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 7: sat down, We like, I want to see more of that.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 7: So I do think there's like a lot of room
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 7: for growth. And now that we know that there's a
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: baby on board or two or three, you know, I'm
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 7: we do know that next season. I'm just playing, y'all
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 7: just kidding that we do know. Like next season, I
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 7: hope we see more of her family and not just
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 7: about business like business. Okay, that's cute. I'm gonna give
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 7: I went back and forth with four and five. I
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 7: was kind of switching them. I think we're on similar pages.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 7: I give number five to Droll. I wanted Drew to
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 7: be in the top three. You know, I was going
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 7: so hard for her early on the season because I
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: loved that she was like she came in more relaxed,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 7: best she's ever looked. I love that she got the
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 7: spirit of of of Ralph off her back and out
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 7: of her basement things when moving forward, like she was
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: like boulder of the season. She didn't let people like
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 7: playing her face like like like nothing that she really
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 7: did before. But she really was like and she also
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 7: I like when she's getting attacked, she don't get like
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 7: mad Rara, she gets she keeps a smirk and she
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 7: I like how controlled she is of her emotions and
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 7: she gives like a little she's she keeps, she keeps
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 7: the composure, and I like a girl that does that.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 7: But once she did become a go naked hair model,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 7: I think that was the end of her storyline. We
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 7: didn't really get anything forward after that, and I do
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 7: think that things change, and it became I didn't like
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 7: her just going from like kind of being so strong
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 7: coming out the gate so strong, to just simply kind
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 7: of just kind of like her and Shamia the whole.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 7: It just became I think Drew's so much better than
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 7: that role. I think she's just I just think she's
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 7: better than that, you know. I got to give number
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 7: four to Angela because her reades. Of course, Alito, she's smart.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 7: I think she looked amazing. I think her body is
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 7: just such tea. I think the reads about our feet
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 7: are stupid and dumb and very low brow. I do
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 7: like that. Listen, say it. What was you wonta about? Angelauily?
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 7: But whose man was at almost every scene that was
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 7: required her supporting and they all the smoke that people
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 7: have about her relationship, he was there. I think they
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 7: have a different type of relationship that people aren't used
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 7: to seeing how they talk to each other. But when
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 7: it counted, he was there. He was there. She also
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 7: was open and you know, shared stuff about her daughter
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 7: and all of that, and I thought that was great.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: Once again, though I think she got caught in her
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 7: well I won't say lies, but it kind of went
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 7: left for her and things changed towards the end of
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 7: the season for me, where I was like, she came
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 7: out the gate so strong and I kind of fizzled
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 7: towards the end. And once again, she also started kind
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 7: of doing the dirty work over there for you know
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 7: that couch. I'll say that y'all gonna be y'all not
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 7: gonna agree with this, and I don't. It's okay. I'm
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 7: giving portion number three. And this is why I do
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 7: like this.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: She was vulnerable.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 7: I love to meet the best part she showed vulnerability
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 7: with Dennis, Like I hate when girls act like I'm
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 7: not bothered. I'm unbothered. We're humans, We're supposed to be
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 7: bothered by things that really impacted us, and I would
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 7: love to see more of that. I think that's like
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 7: a complex kind of relationship. She showed us a new
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 7: love interest, but she did get the girls to do
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 7: her dirty work, and I did not like that. I
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 7: would have liked it. It would have been more like,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 7: hey man, I got this. This ain't this I got
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 7: this because if you you know Ogi, you're the lot,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 7: You're the og there. So I didn't like a lot
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 7: of that, And I feel like a lot of the
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 7: heavy lifting was done by the minions, like the girls
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 7: I became, I don't want to say minions, but done
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 7: by people that were supporting her. And I just feel
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 7: like Portia is too much of a veteran. She don't
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 7: even know when to do her dirty work. She knows exactly,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 7: she knows how she got this. I'm giving Shemiah number
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: two because everyone made her their goddamn storyline, and if
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 7: they didn't do that, Shemia would have ranked lower because
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 7: she's not good at responding. She's not good in the moment.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 7: She's really not And I do think because she's authentic
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 7: and she's not doing a reality show on her mind.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 7: She's like, this is how she really feels. She's gonna stutter.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 7: She's gonna stumble because she's emotional, and he she who
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 7: controls their emotions will always win. A readoff will always
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 7: win because you're in control. She's not there yet. And
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 7: again I give her number two because every it was Shamiah, Shamiah, Shamiyah.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 7: I got sick of haired about Samia. Honestly, it was
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 7: a lot, and they were dead ass wrongs for not
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 7: having her in that first year with all the goddamn
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 7: storylines and conversations around Shamir. And I'm giving Kelly number
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 7: one because of this. She showed the most vulnerability to me.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: She talked about embarrassing and stuff. She showed up with a
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 7: T shirt to her to her a green screen, and
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 7: as much as we want to like clown it, it
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 7: was trending. She also was cool to apologize the people.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 7: She showed she's willing to make up with people. I
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 7: feel like some of the beasts would not even be
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 7: there if she wasn't so close to Shamiya. I think
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 7: the girls really do rock with with Kelly. I like
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 7: that she shows growth. She showed us a new relationship.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: She also has the right amount of delusion to give
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 7: her top dog in my e spirit, in my opinion,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 7: and I don't think she does the dirty work of
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 7: others like she was friends with Shamiah. But I don't
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 7: feel like she was doing Shamidia and she wasn't doing
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 7: her bidding. I think she wasn't, So that's my opinion.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 7: I know I'm gonna get dragged tomorrow, but guess what, y'all,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 7: I'll be in Dallas eating crab legs. I won't watch
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 7: her tomorrow.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: Crab legs.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, Claudia jord all right, I will keep it short
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: and simple. I want to re it a rate.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: This list is based upon the elements I said at
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: the top of the show, personal story, drama, shade, read,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: overall performance. Okay, this is my list. Number eight Phaedra.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: The what I will say is Faedra has a lot
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: of potential and I need Faedra to get back in
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: her bag. She has it in her. We saw that
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: this reunion. She looked gorgeous. The reads were reading the
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: shade was shading I as a producer and a viewer.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I'm never going to reward anybody who uses a lifeline
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: s sos Rihanna Okay to save their job at the reunion.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not impressed.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to these other women to
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: see somebody coast for eighteen seventeen episodes or sixteen I'm sorry,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: sixteen episodes.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden delivered at the reunion.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: And as a producer, what I will say is, those
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: girls are watching that and they're saying to themselves, why
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: is she getting away with it?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: But y'all want me to give my husband my third.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: Kid, you know their kids kids. I gotta do all
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: that and she gets to do nothing. So I would
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: say phage number eight for that reason. Number seven this
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: is hard, but I got to be very honest. Seven
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: is Drew Boom. The reason why Drew is number seven
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: is because Drew, this is your fifth season.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: I expect more from you. Drew.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: This was your first season without Ralph, and.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: You show us that. And JU knows I love her
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: and I love her album, but I gotta be fair, Drew. Disclaimer, Please,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: I expect more from you, Drew. I expect more from you.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: This was your first season without your estranged husband, and
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: I expected more from you and you under delivered.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: You are five seasons in.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: I expect more from a five season girl, like I
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: expect more from a vet. Okay, I'm not impressed by horses.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not impressed by day with open leather jackets, diamond
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: chains and hookahs. I'm not impressed. We need more from you, Drew.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: You haven't in you. You are one of the most
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: beautiful women on Bravo and you know how to read.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: This season was not your best. You are number seven.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Number six goes to kay Michelle. The reason why ky
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Michelle has one up on Drew is because I will
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: give kaymans sh grace. This is her first season, and
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: I will applaud Ca Michelle for contacting the producers when
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: she had the butt lee and allow the cameras to
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: be there. She didn't hide it from the production, she
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: did not talk about it afterwards.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: She called production and said this happened to me. Follow me.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: That's a star. Okay.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: I will also give came to show number six because
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: she delivered at the reunion again, but again we don't
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: give extra credit for that, but I see potential in
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: her base on the fact that in Dallas, although I
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: would have wanted her to really expose what happened, I
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: was enjoying her and Drew's situation in that moment. I
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that we got her husband. I appreciate
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: the fact that we got her work story, and I
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that we got her and Porsche and
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: her and the girls to have their things okay. To
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: shows number six, number five, I would give the Pinky look.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: Pinky has tremendous potential on this show. Tremendous. Pinky is smart,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: she stands up for herself.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know too many pregnant women that can go
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: total tote pfectual parks, and I was impressed with her.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: I was also listen.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: I know I give Pink a hard time giving me
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: one thousand and one not Dalmatians, but business stories. And
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: I will say the reason why she gets number five
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: at least she tried. At least she tried this season
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: to give us something.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: Was it too much extra credit?
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I appreciate that she definitely said I'm gonna
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: get y'all this and that, and y'all can pick and
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: choose which one you want. She gave us Derek. She
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: was open and honest by her bankruptcy. She went tell
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: to Teba Angela Oakley. Okay, Pinky impressed me.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: She really did. She really did. Pinky. In my opinion
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: of all the girls.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: I think Pinky has the greatest potential to Candy Buris
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: this thing and I am. I'm rooting for you, Pinky,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: I'm ringing for you. Number four goes to Angela Oakley.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: The reason why Angela and Angela and Pinky was back
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: and forth and me.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: But the reason why Angela.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: Got extra point over Pinky is because Angela's story with
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: her daughter and the honesty that Amari gave to us,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: I thought was rich. We don't see too many black
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: mothers and their black daughter who come out as lesbian,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: marrying somebody and having that open dialogue and being so
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: open and honest about it, going to therapy as well.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: We don't see a lot of that with black mothers.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: We I feel like, when it comes to media, we've
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: seen black mothers deal what they gave black son, right,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: We've seen that. But to see her deal with her
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: daughter who got married and then to understand what that
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: felt like for her, I thought was great. Listen, Angela
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: definitely got into it a lot with some of these
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: women that I felt was unwarranted, but she delivered, meaning
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: she was able to go toe to toe. She was
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: able to go toe to toe with Shamiyah, with Pinky,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: and she allowed herself to be a president. And like
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Claudia said, we got Charles Oakley and we were able
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: to really see him show off for her too.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: So she's number.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: Four, my top three. Okay, this was also hard. I'm
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: going to give Kelly number three. Okay, the reason why
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: I will give Kelly number three. First of all, kelly
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: sophomore season impressed me, and I haven't been impressed with
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: a sophomore season since Candice Diller Bassett second season Homemakers. Okay,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: Canda's first season. I remember being like Kndace second season.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: I called the producers, I said.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: I'm a candy gal. Okay, Candace second season.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: Needs to go into history books. So does Kelly. Kelly
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: Potter has impressed me so much. Yes, she is present,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: she's likable, she's delulu in the best way possible.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: She's also very honest.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: I mean the fact that this woman bled with her bankruptcy,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: with dealing with her ex husband, the fact that this
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: woman could not film with her children and was still
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: able to be.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: Alive this season to have a presence.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: That's IMPRESSEDI uve so all of you girls, you got boyfriends,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: secret girlfriends in the basement allegedly, you know these off limits.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: Nothing was off limits with Kelly Potter, and I will
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: give her this.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: You are the one to look out for. You are
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: a sleeper hit.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: You are a sleeper hit, and my darling, you deserve
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: all the flowers that's come your direction as long as
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: you stay the course.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. Number two goes to Shemiah.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: The reason why Shemiah's number two, I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: say the first the last point.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: First, what would this season be without Shamiyah?
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 4: Agreed?
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: Sorry, love her or hate her?
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: I am somebody that have the pleasure of working with
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: Kenya Moore, a polarizing figure.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: Where you are you either love Kenya or you hated her?
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: Shamiah Moore and is that same person you have a
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: love Shamia or you hate her?
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: There's no one.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: Between Shemiah's honesty about dealing with the embryo, dealing with Jerald,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: dealing with her best friend, and her not getting along
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: navigating these relationship with these girls.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: She was everybody's storyline. Samia did all of that and
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: didn't I have to knock right she was.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: She was able to to find her footing and yeh,
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: she feil she got back up. She felt she got
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: back up, but she was still standing looking gorgeous and
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: porcelain as ever.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, Tomiya is.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: An extremely attractive woman with a with a lifestyle that
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: is to be envied. And I love the fact that
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: she has not allowed this show to break up her
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: marriage and the fact that I have seen Shemia love
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: her hate her.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: Who she was last season to me was a lap dog.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: This season she wasn't. And and I'm all about an improvement.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: Samiah gets my Most Improved award because at the end
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: of the day, she was the main bitch.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: We were talking about. And I mean that kindly. Shamia's
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: that girl all.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: Samia's interview is the highest rated of the girls this season.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: So and so my point is saying that is only
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: to say love her or hate her. Y'all was watching it,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: y'all watch her. Tomia's that girl, and you you happen
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: to give the girl her flowers? Okay, Number shocker. Okay,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: number one Honestly, all jokes aside. Number one goes to
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: Portia because and this is not going to be something
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: that I know people are going to enjoy hearing. And
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: I understand the way of this comment. This show belongs
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: to Portia, and I know it's an ensemble show. I
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: have said this publicly when I interview Quad years ago
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, that every once in a
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: while on an ensemble, on a female ensemble show, someone
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: emerges as the as as the mainstay, as the face
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: of the program. And love Porschow Hey Porsche. There is
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: no show without Porsche.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 3: And and I know that's that's that's that's a tough
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: thing to say.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: But hear me out when I say that, I'm not
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: saying that Porscha leaves the shows did. I'm not saying that.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: So let's be clear. When I say there's no show
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: without Porsche, I mean episodes. Porsche gave us a coming
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: out story. I'm a big Kyle Richards fan, and I'm
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: not here to label Kyle Richards, but what I am
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: to say is that.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 3: Kyle decided to do something her way, and I respect it.
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: Porsche came out the gate and said, this is what's
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: going on with me, And she did it in a
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: way that I felt wasn't exploiting sexuality.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: She did in a way that I appreciated her journey.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: I appreciated the honesty with her and Dennis, how she
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: broke down and cried when he gave her the ring
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: and we were able to see what.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: Was going on.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: Porsche shall also you could love her hate her even
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: when her and Shamia were not at the best. Porsche
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: proved this is her show by inviting Shemia to her home,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: even when they were at odds.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 3: She said, come over.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: And when they and when the girls tried to poke
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: and prod at at their friendship, Porsche shut it down.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: And so we're not doing that.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: Porsche is somebody that I will go on records saying.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: She's just Porscha has this.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: Personality and the star power that makes the other girls
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: fall in line. And I'm not saying their followers before
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: I'll say that, and I love all the girls. What
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: I'm saying as I'm watching this show, Porsche.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: I remember doing.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: Season six a lont of Housewise when we went to
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: Savannah and I said this public I'll said again it
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: was Nini Least had this energy.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: And Claudia you can speak to if you want to.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: I don't when you're around Niini.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: Nini has this energy where you kind of just fell
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: in line, like it was not that you were a follower,
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: but she controlled the energy in the room.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 7: I didn't notice.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, that was season seven for you. But Porscha owns
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: the energy she's in.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: And Porsche has this special quality where she's funny.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: She plays on the dizziness.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but she can.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: Beat a bitch ass okay, and you are afraid of her, okay.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: And and Porscha doesn't mind dancing in the mud with you.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: And Porsche appreciates a good opponent. She was raised by
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: Nini Leagus. Okay, Porscha and Kenya Moore will always have
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: the best battle in the history of the franchise. So
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: Porsche appreciates of Kelly, like doesn't said when she said
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: this goes to hell, Kelly said.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: Good, I got my horns on.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: Let's go this And last, but not least, Porsche has
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: this power because I have never ever seen anybody state
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: emphatically we're not talking about this, and everyone said, so
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: we'll be having for lunch, were having dinner after this.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: Are we gonna go and do that? We're gonna brap
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: this show up. Okay, so we Yeah, Porsche's that girl.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 3: Love her, hate her? She is that girl. And that's
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 3: my list.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 6: Good job, y'all.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 4: Yah yeah, okay, I generally agreed on who's like in
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 4: the bottom of the middle of the top.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: It was interesting, So rain drops, let us know the comments.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Rate your eight to one, let us know your thoughts. Okay.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: But last, but not least, I want to give a
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: big shout out to the producers of the Real Housewives
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: of Atlanta. Okay, excellent job. Shout out to Lorraine, Lauren,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: everybody involved. I don't know, everybody.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 3: Joy everything.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 4: That's going.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 7: Andy should have us on watch happen.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 4: Seriously, we should.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 7: We should be Bartennis with Dustin as much as we be,
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 7: uh you know, part of the We're like the the
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 7: fifth producers here. Honestly, well be you were mentioned in
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 7: all three episodes Carls have been keeping count.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 4: You were mentioned in all three episodes of the reunion.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: I know you knew.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's been flattering. It's been flattering.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: So shout out to the producers the Bravo executives who
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: overceives the show, the cast and crew. Thank you peach holders,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: excellent season seventeen and we're looking forward to recapping season eighteen.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, love.
• 2:07:42
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