Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Michael Barasch | Barasch & McGarry's Chief Advocate for 9/11 First Responders & Others Harmed by Toxic Dust at Ground Zero
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You guys know that I've got a nice relationship with
- 0:03Speaker 1: the guy that I believe is the, the 9-11 community attorney.
- 0:08Speaker 1: His name is Michael Barish, Barish and McGarry. Here he'd
- 0:11Speaker 1: do his commercials for years on this show. And he
- 0:14Speaker 1: genuinely cares, and he knows his stuff. And you know, Mike,
- 0:18Speaker 1: this week, just a couple of days ago, the mayor
- 0:21Speaker 1: took a little victory lap. He was so proud of himself.
- 0:25Speaker 1: They just happened to find, amazingly, 72 hours later, before
- 0:29Speaker 1: this emotional day, they just happened to find at City
- 0:33Speaker 1: Hall like 70 boxes of information about the air quality
- 0:37Speaker 1: down by Ground Zero back then and 170,000 documents. And
- 0:42Speaker 1: while I think all that is important, and you know
- 0:44Speaker 1: better than anybody, I was told you lose two clients
- 0:47Speaker 1: a day. The timing for me was so grotesque. Clearly,
- 0:52Speaker 1: Mayor Mamdani just wanted to stick it in Rudy Giuliani's face.
- 0:56Speaker 1: So I know you're not here to talk politics, but
- 0:58Speaker 1: I got to tell you, to use people who died
- 1:02Speaker 1: and are still dying as a political tool, Michael Barish,
- 1:07Speaker 1: really pissed me off.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Well, Sid, first of all, thanks for calling and inviting
- 1:13Speaker 2: me to join your show today. You know I appreciate that.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I would have loved to have been in Dallas with you,
- 1:18Speaker 2: but I had so many 9-11 commemorative events this week.
- 1:22Speaker 2: And I also want to thank you for not using
- 1:24Speaker 2: the word anniversary when we talk about 9-11. Because, you know,
- 1:29Speaker 2: you think of anniversary as the day you got married.
- 1:32Speaker 2: You got married, and it ended that day. Well, 9-11
- 1:36Speaker 2: sadly hasn't ended for anyone in the 9-11 community, and
- 1:40Speaker 2: that includes the 100,000 responders and volunteers, the 300,000 office workers,
- 1:48Speaker 2: the 50,000 students and teachers, and let's not forget about
- 1:51Speaker 2: the 25,000 downtown residents who all were told by the
- 1:56Speaker 2: EPA five days after 9-11. that the air was safe
- 2:01Speaker 2: to breathe. You remember that?
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will tell you this. Christine Todd Whitman
- 2:04Speaker 1: told us the same thing at the time she was
- 2:06Speaker 1: the governor of New Jersey. People aren't stupid, okay? I
- 2:09Speaker 1: lived in Chelsea on 21st and 8th, and I walked
- 2:13Speaker 1: back and forth almost every day to that site. You knew,
- 2:16Speaker 1: unless you're a moron, you knew it wasn't safe. It
- 2:19Speaker 1: wasn't right. The smell, the smoke, you knew it. And
- 2:23Speaker 1: I got to tell you, Michael, It wouldn't have mattered,
- 2:26Speaker 1: knowing some of the people that went down there those days.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Not just one day, but days and days. They would
- 2:32Speaker 1: have gone anyway, because that's what New Yorkers do. So
- 2:36Speaker 1: to come back now and say, well, you know, they
- 2:39Speaker 1: should have told us. I guess that's true. But the
- 2:43Speaker 1: truth is, nothing would have changed. I know you know that.
- 2:46Speaker 2: You're 100% right. Look, half of my 50,000 clients are responders.
- 2:52Speaker 2: They all tell me the same thing. It wouldn't have
- 2:55Speaker 2: made a difference. I was going to go down there
- 2:57Speaker 2: and look for my brothers. Remember, at the beginning, there
- 2:59Speaker 2: was hope that they would find people alive. That soon ended.
- 3:03Speaker 2: But then they were hoping to find... the bodies so
- 3:05Speaker 2: families could have meaningful and respectful funerals. Well, they certainly
- 3:10Speaker 2: didn't find all the bodies, but that's what they were
- 3:12Speaker 2: going to do no matter what they knew. And you're
- 3:14Speaker 2: absolutely right. The office workers like me, I'm only three
- 3:17Speaker 2: blocks from ground zero. We wanted to believe the EPA,
- 3:21Speaker 2: even though the air reeked, but we wanted to do
- 3:24Speaker 2: our duty and return to work. Look, they opened Wall
- 3:27Speaker 2: Street the next week. And, look, I'm certainly no fan
- 3:30Speaker 2: of our current mayor, but I give him credit for
- 3:33Speaker 2: bringing these documents to light. We can argue about the timing,
- 3:37Speaker 2: but the fact is we knew it wasn't safe. You know,
- 3:41Speaker 2: I represented Detective James at Rogher who died of pulmonary
- 3:44Speaker 2: fibrosis at the age of 34. When the family asked
- 3:47Speaker 2: me to arrange the autopsy, they found ground glass. benzene, mercury, lead,
- 3:53Speaker 2: asbestos in his lung tissue. And if he had it
- 3:58Speaker 2: in his lungs, so do all of us. But we
- 4:01Speaker 2: did what we had to do as citizens, and it
- 4:04Speaker 2: wouldn't have made any difference if we had been told Then,
- 4:07Speaker 2: what the city knew a month later, which the air
- 4:10Speaker 2: was not safe. So, look, why didn't the de Blasio administration,
- 4:14Speaker 2: why didn't the Bloomberg administration release these records? They deserve
- 4:18Speaker 2: a lot of blame. I don't blame Rudy's administration because
- 4:22Speaker 2: at the time, first of all, he was only there
- 4:23Speaker 2: until the end of December. And his people returned to
- 4:27Speaker 2: City Hall as well. and they were breathing this stuff.
- 4:30Speaker 2: They believed the EPA as well. But the good news
- 4:33Speaker 2: is that there are benefits available. The federal government in
- 4:37Speaker 2: 2010 passed the Zedroga Health and Compensation Act, creating the
- 4:42Speaker 2: Victim Compensation Fund and the World Trade Center Health Program.
- 4:45Speaker 2: So let's use this revelation about the air as a
- 4:50Speaker 2: good thing and encourage people who haven't yet enrolled, not
- 4:54Speaker 2: just responders, but the civilians who were exposed to the
- 4:59Speaker 2: same dust, they should enroll in the World Trade Center
- 5:02Speaker 2: health program. They should get themselves checked out, and they
- 5:05Speaker 2: should enroll themselves in the victim compensation fund in case,
- 5:09Speaker 2: God forbid, one day they get cancer. Do you know
- 5:11Speaker 2: that 69 cancers have now been linked? Over 9,600 people
- 5:17Speaker 2: have died of 9-11 illnesses since 9-11. That's three times
- 5:22Speaker 2: as many people that died on 9-11, Sid.
- 5:25Speaker 1: No, I know, and I think Yvette Rodriguez told me
- 5:28Speaker 1: that you're losing... Some days, two clients.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Not some days. Every day, I lose two clients. There
- 5:36Speaker 2: are 56,000 people in the 9-11 community who have been
- 5:39Speaker 2: diagnosed with a 9-11 cancer, and they're all entitled to
- 5:42Speaker 2: up to $ 250, 000 from the government. This is a fully
- 5:46Speaker 2: funded program, and yet less than 15% of the civilians
- 5:51Speaker 2: are enrolled. It's just either they don't know about it,
- 5:55Speaker 2: or if they know about the benefits, they're thinking, oh,
- 5:57Speaker 2: it's just for cops and firefighters. Or they feel guilty
- 6:01Speaker 2: and they don't want to take away. Well, I assure everyone,
- 6:04Speaker 2: you're not taking away from the cops and firefighters, from
- 6:07Speaker 2: our heroes who went running down to the site. And
- 6:11Speaker 2: there's a presumption. So you don't, if your doctor says, well,
- 6:14Speaker 2: I don't know what caused your melanoma or your basal
- 6:17Speaker 2: cell skin cancer or your prostate cancer. It doesn't matter
- 6:20Speaker 2: whether your doctor knows it or not. The federal doctors,
- 6:24Speaker 2: they know that there's an increase in all these cancers.
- 6:28Speaker 2: So protect yourselves and your family. Get into these programs now. Again,
- 6:34Speaker 2: it's not a political issue. This toxic dust didn't care
- 6:37Speaker 2: if you liked the Republicans or if you were a Democrat.
- 6:40Speaker 2: What do you think? No, of course not. They only,
- 6:43Speaker 2: the toxic dust affected everyone.
- 6:47Speaker 1: No, there's no question. And look, you're a good guy.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I like you.
- 6:50Speaker 1: We've been doing this for years together, Michael Barish, Barish
- 6:53Speaker 1: and McGarry.
- 6:53Speaker 2: I like you too.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a good soul. But the truth is, is
- 6:57Speaker 1: that this latest revelation, you would think at least, that
- 7:01Speaker 1: your phone would be winging off the hook. This is,
- 7:04Speaker 1: I would think, an opportunity for a whole new batch
- 7:09Speaker 1: of people who, like you said, didn't know and Now
- 7:13Speaker 1: that these documents have come out, I know you're not
- 7:16Speaker 1: happy about this necessarily. Yes, it means money, but it
- 7:18Speaker 1: also means sick people. But this sounds like a big
- 7:21Speaker 1: opportunity for people like you.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Well, forget me. I care about my clients. At this point,
- 7:27Speaker 2: it's all about my clients. It's about the people. I
- 7:30Speaker 2: am a member of the 9-11 community. I lost my secretary, Liana,
- 7:34Speaker 2: to breast cancer. My paralegal dentist to kidney cancer. I'm
- 7:38Speaker 2: a prostate cancer survivor. My secretary, Barbara, has lymphoma. And
- 7:42Speaker 2: we were like everyone else. We believed what we wanted
- 7:45Speaker 2: to believe, very naively in hindsight. But thank God, maybe
- 7:50Speaker 2: this is the wake-up call that people needed to say, oh, God,
- 7:53Speaker 2: it really was safe. I mean, shameful that the city
- 7:57Speaker 2: didn't release these records in the last 25 years. Because
- 8:00Speaker 2: you know what? Maybe people would have gone to doctors earlier.
- 8:03Speaker 2: I know it sounds corny, but early detection is the
- 8:06Speaker 2: key when you've got cancer. Even though you're much more
- 8:10Speaker 2: likely to get cancer if you're exposed to the World
- 8:13Speaker 2: Trade Center toxins, you're also much more likely to survive
- 8:17Speaker 2: the cancer if you're in the World Trade Center Health Program,
- 8:20Speaker 2: because you get detected earlier, because maybe you get treatment earlier.
- 8:25Speaker 2: That's the key. So, yes, I think the timing stinks.
- 8:30Speaker 2: As I said, I'm no fan of Mandany at all,
- 8:33Speaker 2: but at least he, his administration or his law department
- 8:36Speaker 2: is doing what the de Blasio and Bloomberg administrations didn't do,
- 8:41Speaker 2: which was release the records. I don't think they have
- 8:44Speaker 2: anything to worry about with a lawsuit. The Victim Compensation
- 8:47Speaker 2: Fund is so much of a better alternative for the
- 8:50Speaker 2: 9-11 community because there's a presumption linking the cancer. You
- 8:55Speaker 2: don't have to have doctors say that, you know, oh,
- 8:58Speaker 2: that exposure you got before 9-11, before October 15th, when
- 9:03Speaker 2: the city found out that wasn't the cause of your cancer,
- 9:06Speaker 2: but it was the exposure after October 15th, nobody's going
- 9:10Speaker 2: to win that lawsuit, Sid. So again, take advantage of
- 9:14Speaker 2: the benefits. If you were south of Canal Street, you're
- 9:17Speaker 2: entitled to free health care for the rest of your
- 9:19Speaker 2: life for any 9-11 cancers. If you're South of Canal Street,
- 9:24Speaker 2: you get compensated by the government and you don't waive
- 9:27Speaker 2: your future rights, Sid. So if God forbid one day
- 9:30Speaker 2: you die of cancer or a pulmonary illness, your family's
- 9:33Speaker 2: entitled to another three or four hundred thousand. And I
- 9:36Speaker 2: got to tell you, as sad as it is for
- 9:38Speaker 2: me to hear about my clients getting sick and dying,
- 9:40Speaker 2: it's so comforting for them when I tell them your
- 9:44Speaker 2: wife won't lose the house. Your kids can go to college.
- 9:47Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only good that I can think
- 9:51Speaker 2: of that has come out of all of this. And,
- 9:53Speaker 2: you know, maybe it'll just shed a light on the
- 9:55Speaker 2: fact that benefits are now available.
- 9:59Speaker 1: No, that is goodness. I just wish in my heart
- 10:01Speaker 1: of hearts I really felt like the mayor cared about
- 10:03Speaker 1: the people. Again, I just think that he wanted to
- 10:05Speaker 1: stick it to Giuliani.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Let him come out and condemn the cowardly Islamic terrorists.
- 10:11Speaker 2: That's what he should do. And, you know, again, this
- 10:13Speaker 2: isn't a political issue, but how can you sit there
- 10:17Speaker 2: and city hall... and not blame the people who are
- 10:20Speaker 2: really at fault for 9-11. Not the Giuliani administration, certainly
- 10:24Speaker 2: not the later administrations. Blame the Islamic terrorists. They're the
- 10:30Speaker 2: reasons why 3,000 people died that day and why another 9,600
- 10:35Speaker 2: people have died and will continue to die. 9-11 didn't
- 10:39Speaker 2: end on 9-11, which is why we don't call it
- 10:41Speaker 2: an anniversary today. at all it's a it's a memory
- 10:45Speaker 2: it's a commemorative day that we will take solemnly and
- 10:48Speaker 2: that's why i'm still here in new york because there
- 10:50Speaker 2: are there's so many events uh that are um memorializing
- 10:55Speaker 2: the people who died that day and the heroes who
- 10:58Speaker 2: helped that's a.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Heck of a job so michael on the way out
- 11:01Speaker 1: for folks that um are waking up to this and
- 11:04Speaker 1: want help what's the easiest way to contact you my
- 11:07Speaker 1: friend michael barris barris and mcgarry to make sure they
- 11:09Speaker 1: do get help down the road.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Go to 911victims. com. That's 911victims with an S dot com.
- 11:18Speaker 2: And I'm going to be the first to say, you
- 11:20Speaker 2: don't need a lawyer. No, you don't. But get a consultation,
- 11:24Speaker 2: a free consultation. Find out what your rights are and
- 11:28Speaker 2: enroll in the World Trade Center Health Program and the
- 11:32Speaker 2: Victim Compensation Fund. Protect yourselves. Protect your family.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Michael Barish, you're a sweet guy, and you're doing God's work.
- 11:41Speaker 1: You really are. It's great to talk to you this morning,
- 11:43Speaker 1: even on this solemn occasion, and we'll see you again very,
- 11:46Speaker 1: very soon. Thank you, buddy.
- 11:47Speaker 2: It's a privilege to do this. Thank you, Sid. I
- 11:50Speaker 2: appreciate it.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Thanks.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Michael Barish right there, Barish and McGarry. So again, if
- 11:55Speaker 1: you've been diagnosed with cancer, God forbid, or somebody you
- 11:58Speaker 1: love died, God forbid, and they were anywhere near that
- 12:02Speaker 1: area 25 years ago, the likelihood is You're entitled to compensation.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Contact Barish and McGarry today.
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- 12:38Speaker 1: What the heck is going on here?