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The Bolt Report | 11 June · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Jesus is the reform.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight shocking new statistics showing the immigration crisis is much
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  Speaker 2: much worse than thought. And Barnaby Joyce on the One
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  Speaker 2: Nation fundraiser that so stunned the Prime Minister that he's
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  Speaker 2: calling it fake. And Britney Higgins is hard to supposedly
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  Speaker 2: fight misogyny but susion the user to fight a party
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  Speaker 2: actually led by a woman and backed most by women.
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  Speaker 2: Figure that one out. And plenty more, including Rowan Dean
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  Speaker 2: and Patrick Christie is on the latest about the shocking
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  Speaker 2: stabbing attacked by a Sudanese asylum seeker.
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  Speaker 1: But first.
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  Speaker 2: You could almost smell the panic today in Canberra from
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, for instance, who was panicked into a hut.
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  Speaker 2: And let's be honest, a comic claim that one that
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  Speaker 2: a One Nation fundraiser fire the lyre couldn't possibly have
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  Speaker 2: raised a couple of million dollars so fast, couldn't possibly
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  Speaker 2: believe that so many strengths really did want to fire him.
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  Speaker 1: But there's also panic from the Liberals, and.
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  Speaker 2: Again there's panic over Pauline Hanson and tonight I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to show you the kind of thing that's making Pauline
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  Speaker 2: Hanson stronger by the day, more feral protesters, smart ass
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  Speaker 2: journalists and shocking crime news, all of it in the
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  Speaker 2: last twenty four hours. But let's start with that panic.
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  Speaker 1: Today.
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson and a One Nation Party have totally spooked
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  Speaker 2: labor with the latest fundraising campaign, matching Labour's online campaign
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  Speaker 2: to get money to stop One Nation with a near
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  Speaker 2: identical one to fire the lyre Anthony Obnezi, hoping to
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  Speaker 2: raise a million dollars instead.
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  Speaker 1: Right now that campaign has raised more.
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  Speaker 2: Than two and a quarter million dollars in just two days,
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  Speaker 2: which is just it's mind boggling. Well, it sure boggled
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  Speaker 2: the mind of the Prime Minister who couldn't believe it,
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  Speaker 2: couldn't believe a fundraiser to get him fired as a
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  Speaker 2: liara would be so insanely popular with ordinary voters that
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  Speaker 2: he suggested that it's got to be fake or rigged.
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  Speaker 3: She smashed him in.
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  Speaker 2: The fundraising race, So she raised more than million?
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  Speaker 3: Did she?
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  Speaker 4: Though?
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  Speaker 5: Did she? Though?
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  Speaker 6: Did she?
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  Speaker 7: Whatever?
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  Speaker 1: That is? Well, do you believe that Pauline Hanson has
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  Speaker 1: raised one point?
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  Speaker 8: If I would you suspect that she did?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you work it out.
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  Speaker 2: That has to be pure panic, I mean, the bubbles
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  Speaker 2: burst for him. Did he really imagine that Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 2: would risk her reputation with such a shabby trick.
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  Speaker 7: Why would I call out the liar by the liar
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  Speaker 7: then go and do something like that myself?
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  Speaker 2: It would destroy me.
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  Speaker 1: Is legitimate, very legitimate problems.
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  Speaker 7: We've actually said we all get an independent auditor into
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  Speaker 7: go through it, so everyone who denies sort of gets
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  Speaker 7: a receipt sent back to them.
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  Speaker 3: So very legitimate.
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  Speaker 2: And now that orditor, independent AI expert has indeed checked
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  Speaker 2: the fundraising sites, software and data and concluded that the
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  Speaker 2: one nation far to the Layer campaign is legit. I
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  Speaker 2: am satisfied that the fundraising total calculation currently includes only
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  Speaker 2: successfully received them validated donation payments. Yes, indeed, twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: thousand Australians really have donated more than two million.
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  Speaker 1: Dollars to fire the lyre.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, the total was even higher if you included
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  Speaker 2: the promises not yet paid. But that said, if Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Abernezi is having the with one nation now more popular
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  Speaker 2: than Labor in three poles, the Liberals are in the
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  Speaker 2: meltdown front. Bencher Tony Passon has even suggested now that
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  Speaker 2: the Liberals make a deal with one nation not to
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  Speaker 2: run candidates against each other, saying we should work hand
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  Speaker 2: in glove to defeat labor. We should work together to
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  Speaker 2: identify which seats are more appropriately targeted by one nation
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  Speaker 2: candidate or a Liberal candidate. Now I really like Tony Passon,
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  Speaker 2: but I have to say there's no wonder he wants
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  Speaker 2: such a deal because in South Australia's election, one Nation
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  Speaker 2: won two state seats that are actually right in Passon's
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  Speaker 2: own federal seat of Barker, and if they run a
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  Speaker 2: good candidate against him, he looks like toast. But Osiger
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  Speaker 2: Leader and the State of Today said no dice to
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  Speaker 2: the deal that Passon wants.
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  Speaker 9: Now, there's no plan to carve upsets. We won't be
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  Speaker 9: doing that, and what we will be doing is focusing
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  Speaker 9: on a labor government that's taking this country in the
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  Speaker 9: wrong direction, with higher taxes, with less houses, with immigration
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  Speaker 9: that has not been in line with our housing supply,
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  Speaker 9: and with an energy system that is broken, and that
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  Speaker 9: will be our focus. It won't be carving up seats.
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  Speaker 1: Immigration.
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  Speaker 2: I've mentioned news that shows why Handsome is turning into
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  Speaker 2: a steamroll and a way her enemies now.
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  Speaker 1: Just make us stronger.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's first to start with the smart out journalism
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  Speaker 2: that simply makes one nation sympathizers. Especially, I think the
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  Speaker 2: whole political class, including the media, is rigged against one
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  Speaker 2: nation and really needs a good kicking. Channel nine thought
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  Speaker 2: these were the questions to ask Hansey yesterday when she
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  Speaker 2: landed in Perth. Stupid questions about a small plane donated
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  Speaker 2: to her by billionaire Gina Reinhardt.
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  Speaker 10: Jen It's Jenus jet, Genus jetty? Why didn't you find
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  Speaker 10: Gena's jet?
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  Speaker 9: What a dumb question?
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  Speaker 1: Did you fly?
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  Speaker 10: Caddle class?
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  Speaker 7: I'm not answering your stupid questions, right, get some credibility
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  Speaker 7: about you as a journalist and learn respect as well.
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  Speaker 2: And check the smirk on the reporter's face at having
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  Speaker 2: been so petty and rude. Honestly, if you looked at
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  Speaker 2: her own Instagram page and see.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't mind the high life herself.
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  Speaker 2: Then there were the couple of hundred Socialists and Greens
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  Speaker 2: protesters outside screaming abuse at hands and yesterday calling her
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  Speaker 2: a racist, showing their familiar intolerance, hatred of free speech
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  Speaker 2: and also craze hatred of Zioness. This time, I mean
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  Speaker 2: protest that look, they just tell me that whatever they're against,
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  Speaker 2: I probably should before and for many Australians that would
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  Speaker 2: include being for hence this policy to slash mass immigration
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  Speaker 2: and to be more selective about who we let in.
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  Speaker 2: As you again promised last night, They're.
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  Speaker 7: Not going to take you or us for granted anymore.
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  Speaker 7: Now they have real opposition, because I knew there was
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  Speaker 7: no opposition in the past. Now you the people have
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  Speaker 7: someone else to vote for, and I promise you I
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  Speaker 7: will work extremely hard to represent you the people to
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  Speaker 7: the best my ability, with honesty and integrity, to get
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  Speaker 7: our country back, get prosperity happening, get industries manufacturing, give
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  Speaker 7: our youths some hope for the future, stop the crime
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  Speaker 7: that's happening, and stop these people company and do not
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  Speaker 7: belong in our nation who are destroying us as.
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  Speaker 2: Australian immigration crime. Take your country back. It's such a
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  Speaker 2: powerful message, and no wonder because you just see today's
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  Speaker 2: crime news, which would have made a millions of Austraians
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  Speaker 2: who heard it ask each other who changed our country
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  Speaker 2: into this.
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  Speaker 1: One item?
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  Speaker 2: A failed underworld hit in Sydney on this man and
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  Speaker 2: his daughter outside her school. A mass man out of
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  Speaker 2: camera ran at them with a gun and fired, but
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  Speaker 2: the gun seems of jam. Thank god, the target is
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  Speaker 2: not suspective involvement himself.
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  Speaker 1: In organized crime.
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  Speaker 2: But please believe there is some sort of link, and
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  Speaker 2: just when they are dealing with warfare between two ethnic games,
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  Speaker 2: one led by Pacific Islanders whose leader was murdered recently
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  Speaker 2: and given an Islamic funeral, and the other by the
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  Speaker 2: Alamedin crime family whose parents emigrated from Lebanon from nineteen
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  Speaker 2: seventy five on day and.
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  Speaker 1: Their siblings and whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The other crime reported today was the arrest on series
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  Speaker 2: drug charges of Muhammad Scuff, who was a member of
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  Speaker 2: an infamous ethnic Lebanese rape game led by's brother and
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  Speaker 2: jailed for attacking six girls in two thousand. Some of
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  Speaker 2: those girls abused for hours, with the gain mocking victims
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  Speaker 2: as Ozzie Slut's pardon language and saying to them things
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  Speaker 2: like you deserve it because your Australian. Scuff's parents also
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  Speaker 2: came to Australia from Lebanon in nineteen seventy five, and
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  Speaker 2: who let the Alamedine and Scuff families into Australia around
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  Speaker 2: that time. It was the Liberals Malcolm Fraser's government, Malcolm Fraser,
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  Speaker 2: who ignored warnings from immigration officials that people from a
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  Speaker 2: very different culture and a war zone at that would
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  Speaker 2: struggle to assimilate the decision that Peter Dunner's immigration minister
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  Speaker 2: admitted on the show that fraser decision had proved to
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  Speaker 2: be a mistake. The Liberals sound Fraser had ignored those warnings.
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  Speaker 2: They went with the cultural flow, while Pauline Hanson, of course,
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  Speaker 2: was threatened and bullied for warning against such immigration mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: This is a visit that she made it personally thirty
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  Speaker 2: years ago. Unbelievable, that thuggery, and what courage to stand
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  Speaker 2: up to it. In fact, Hanson has proved by standing
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  Speaker 2: up to this monstering for three decades.
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  Speaker 1: Now that she does mean what she says.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it's true that the Liberals now say the right
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  Speaker 2: things about immigration.
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  Speaker 1: You just said, Angus Taylor. Well, some of them say.
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  Speaker 2: It anyway, but how many dared to do that when
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  Speaker 2: the fight was on and the mob was baying for
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  Speaker 2: Hanson's head.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying.
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  Speaker 2: Vote one nation, and I'm not saying the Liberals are
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  Speaker 2: no good. I'm simply explaining why one nation is trusted
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  Speaker 2: and the Liberals not as for labor. You can forget that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also explaining why the Liberals now are in sheer
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  Speaker 2: panic and Albanezi as well. In fact, there's new evidence
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  Speaker 2: this week that the mass immigration crisis is even worse,
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  Speaker 2: much worse than you've been told. We're usually focus on
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  Speaker 2: their immigration figures, which you know, who comes in minus
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  Speaker 2: who goes out, and those are bad enough, I mean
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  Speaker 2: nearly three hundred thousand extra people.
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  Speaker 1: Just this year alone.
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  Speaker 2: But we now learn that a record number of immigrants
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  Speaker 2: are here on bridging visas, and the numbers are massive.
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  Speaker 2: These include foreigners and student visas have expired or as
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  Speaker 2: saying claims been rejected, but it's still try to stay
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  Speaker 2: and get it bridging visa while it's sorted out. Look
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  Speaker 2: at the latest numbers, more than four hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 2: thousand foreigners here just on bridging visas and growing every year.
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  Speaker 2: Now four hundred and thirty thousand is already more than
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  Speaker 2: the populations of Darwin and Hobart combined. Joining me if
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  Speaker 2: someone who's written extensively on the immigration crisis, Leith and Nonsolin,
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  Speaker 2: co founder of Macrobusiness and a former federal Treasury official, leth.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, and thank you
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  Speaker 2: for alerting me to this on your magnificent website. There's
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  Speaker 2: now a record number of foreigners here on bridging visas,
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  Speaker 2: more than four hundred.
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  Speaker 1: And thirty thousand. Why is that?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, this is absolute travesty, Andrew so So, bridging visas
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  Speaker 11: are the fastest growing category of temporary migrants, and this
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  Speaker 11: explosion in bridging visas has meant that many foreigners who
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  Speaker 11: are supposed to be here temporarily just simply aren't leaving.
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  Speaker 11: That's obviously putting up a pressure on net overseas migration
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  Speaker 11: and population growth. And this surge in bridging visas has
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  Speaker 11: been driven in a large part by non genuine international
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  Speaker 11: students who've clogged up the Ministry of Review Tribunal with
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  Speaker 11: appeals over visa refusals. So, in other words, their visas
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  Speaker 11: have expired, but they've applied for other visas and they're
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  Speaker 11: allowed to stay in the country on bridging visas with
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  Speaker 11: work rights while they wait, or they've applied for bogus
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  Speaker 11: asylum seeker claims and then they've given a bridge visa
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  Speaker 11: for that and that gives them work rights while they wait.
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  Speaker 1: More than a year to.
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  Speaker 11: Be heard by the Ministry tribunals. So basically we've got
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  Speaker 11: immigration system andrew that's open to routing and non genuine
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  Speaker 11: international students have taken advantage knowing that they can stay
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  Speaker 11: in the country for years on these bridging visas.
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  Speaker 1: So it's an absolute joke.
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  Speaker 2: Now on that point, they can say for years while
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  Speaker 2: this drags through the system. That's the point because you
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  Speaker 2: look at the number growing how fast it's grown under
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  Speaker 2: the four years of the Albnizi government.
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  Speaker 1: It's more than double getting bigger by the year.
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  Speaker 2: While it all drags out, they're not getting sent back
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  Speaker 2: and every year there will be more. How much How
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  Speaker 2: will this number get?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 11: Look, I think they're going to continue rising as the
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  Speaker 11: post pandemic boom in international students, those visas expire and
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  Speaker 11: media are going to seek to extend their stays in
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  Speaker 11: Australia by visa hopping and abusing the appeals process. So
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  Speaker 11: I think this bridging visa number is just going to
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  Speaker 11: continue to rise. To stop it, yeah, so there's basically
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  Speaker 11: four ways they can do it. So first of all,
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  Speaker 11: we need to dramatically tighten the entry standards for students
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  Speaker 11: to come to Australia to ensure they're genuine and their
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  Speaker 11: high quality and the here to study rather than to
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  Speaker 11: live and work. Second, we've got to stop students being
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  Speaker 11: able to visa hop and extend their stays and they
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  Speaker 11: should be required to return home after their visas have explied,
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  Speaker 11: and if they want to reapply for a visa, do
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  Speaker 11: it from their home country. Third, the Ministry of Review
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  Speaker 11: Tribunal Appeals process needs to be significantly tightened to stop
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  Speaker 11: these spurious claims. And also the aart the Review Tribunal
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  Speaker 11: needs to be streamlined so that it hears these cases
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  Speaker 11: much more quickly and doesn't sit on them for twelve
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  Speaker 11: to eighteen months.
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  Speaker 2: It suggests another one, No student except some postgraduate one
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  Speaker 2: should be allowed to bring any relative, family member or
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  Speaker 2: anything on an associated visa or any other visa of
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  Speaker 2: their kind. You've got to make sure there's an incentive
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  Speaker 2: to go back home. Leith and Nonsenan, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for your time. This is a real problem. And
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  Speaker 2: to my regular Thursday Guess One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce,
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  Speaker 2: the former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby, thank you for your time.
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  Speaker 2: You heard the Prime Minister today suggests your fire the
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  Speaker 2: liar fundraiser was fake, Like I couldn't believe so many
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: people will want to donate.
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  Speaker 1: To get him kicked out.
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  Speaker 2: But your independent audit report this afternoon says that no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: it really is real. What does that say about the
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  Speaker 2: Prime minister?
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  Speaker 1: He's got questions about the moon landing. You know that
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  Speaker 1: also was fake. It was done in a studio, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I have to have respect for the
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister Australia, but that's an absurd statement to make.
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  Speaker 1: It was fake.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you run out of everything else, you
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: run towards conspiracy theories. You know. I thought that they
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: used to think that we were the harbor.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Of the conspiracy theories.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: But they are the harbor of conspiracy theories. It's all
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  Speaker 3: a big conspiracy theory, Anthony, It's just seven.
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  Speaker 2: There's a bigger problem here, No, Barnaby. Look, it's easy
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  Speaker 2: to laugh, and I've been laughing, but let's step back.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine now, being the polsters, the labor polsters and the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the his chief of staff and all that.
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  Speaker 2: They come to the Prime Minister and say, like there
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  Speaker 2: say two of the latest polls, the news poll and
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a Hugo poll. Prime Minister both
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  Speaker 2: are telling you us that you're really unpopular. Now your
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: disapproval rate is sixty percent.
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  Speaker 1: This is catastrophic.
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  Speaker 2: And the Premister says, what, Barnaby, I know that's fake
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of level of denial is he in?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it'll it'll all be solved at the next election.
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  Speaker 1: That's where it's off to at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: And it look, it's it was humbling and amazing that
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  Speaker 3: we had with basically within twenty four hours two million
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  Speaker 3: dollars from twenty nine dollars plus donations. The people want
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: to change, you know, there's people keep on misreading this,
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  Speaker 3: like even the last week when we saw our interview
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  Speaker 3: and everyone thought, oh, I've got it. You know, oh
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: he made a mistake and he corrected it. Oh look,
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  Speaker 3: jumbo a feather to fly with. Here we go, Jumbo
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  Speaker 3: where we're going, Dumbo, I don't know, jumbo where we're
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  Speaker 3: flying out of here? And people the world's changed, and
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: it's changed because they're so frustrated with the fact that
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  Speaker 3: Australia with so much potential oil, gas, coal, ironle cattle, irrigation, cotton, boxide, gold,
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  Speaker 3: and we're we are becoming poorer per person per year,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and austrange people just go, I'm over it.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a slightly different way of describing what went
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  Speaker 2: on there. Related though here you were not knowing a
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  Speaker 2: one of the policies hadn't been written down, Yeah right,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: but it hadn't even been written down, and others that
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: you were asked in the know about it and led
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: you astray. But the point is, I don't think the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: voter's care if you are still getting ready.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: No they're not. They think that you are on the
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  Speaker 1: right track.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: You of course haven't got all the ducks in a
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: row yet because you've only got two advisors for a start,
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  Speaker 2: thanks to Alvin Easy. But what they do know that
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: rather you stumble doing the right thing, than this government
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  Speaker 2: made no mistakes at all in doing the dead wrong thing,
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  Speaker 2: making us poorer, wasting all this money on green schemes,
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  Speaker 2: dividing us by race.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: They don't want that. Well, look at we have.
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  Speaker 3: We have what's minister Bon and I'm being respectful Minister Bon.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: He's over in a bond which for all your viewers
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: don't know, it's a city in Germany apparently, and he's
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  Speaker 3: about to spend one hundred and forty million, sorry, one
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: hundred and forty million dollars as part of his cost
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: of this fantasy that he can change the night, you
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: can change the weather, you can make me colder.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: They say, well, I don't know where one nation is
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  Speaker 3: coming from.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening here?
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Well, it's lunatics thinking that they from Australia, We're going
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: to change the weather. It's the fact they look on
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: the television, they see what just happened in Belfast and
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: they go, I don't want that here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I do not want that. Correct.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a sense of that at BONDI and a dramatic,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: disgusting sense of it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And this is going to stop.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You know, the greatest blessing of your life, the most
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: amazing blessing of your life, is that you are in Australia.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: And if you don't respect that, if you want to
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: diminish us, if you want to assault us, if you
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: want to basically think it's politically correct two basically defray
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I know, whatever you like to court, then
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: we don't want you here. Well, let me have in Australia.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Let me I think I think that's so right. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: think that's so right, and I think they news, the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: crime news today, like the two crime stories are referred
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to in Sydney involving mate.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: We don't want that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It's not who there's a liberal government lan no, no,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: no no, and the whole thing needs to be revisited.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: But one other thing, of course about Albanize's sun reaction
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to your success in that fundraiser is that he clearly
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: hasn't raised anything like it in Labour's own fundraiser, so
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: he cannot believe that you've been so successful in comparison.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: But listen about that money. Pauline Hansen said, it's all
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: going to go to finding labor in labor seats. It
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: was about stop labor. That's what the money was rasaw
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and she named some of the seats she had in mind,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: including ones held by hate magnets of the government, like
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: one you've just mentioned climate changements, the Chris Bone who today,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: by the way, already has a fire of the liar
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: billboard being driven around as electric issues.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: That tells you something that we are on the right
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: track and I'm going to target those labor seats, not polishing,
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: target the last head first on my list Chris ba.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Adam Giles, now Bundaby. I got to say this's a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: bit rougher Madaline King, because I think she's one of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the best of the government spinisters.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: But the rest you can hear the geus, Chris.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Bone, Do you really think you got a chance to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: knocking him over when the One Nation candidate in his
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: seat of the last selection got less than nine percent?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I do, and I think there's been a swing.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: There was a swing against Chris Bowen in his seat
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: in the labor landslide.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: There's a swing against Chris Bowen.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, Chris Bine's got to understand if he goes
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: on with all this rubbish, if he becomes the professor
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: of making people poorer, if he becomes the archangel Gabriel
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of de industrializing Australia, if he is a person who
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: wants to clap as we blow up our power stations,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: then the people of the Seed of mc mann are
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: not dopey Chris. They're going to boot you out, mate,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: They're going to get rid of you. I went down
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: there to one of the league's clubs there and mate,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: you know it's out of habit than rather than out
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: of love that they vote for him. It if you
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: keep going back to the will of habit and just
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: keep on bucketing on them, they're going to leave you.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: And Chris, they're going to leave you, mate. They are
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I know little about lots, I know lots about politics, Chris,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: They're going to ditch you, mate.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You gone. That's interesting actually out of time.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: But if I could get one or two word answer here,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: liberal from bench at Tony pass And says it should
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: be a deal with one nation so that you are
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: on Candace in some seats and the Liberals and Nationals
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: in the other and maybe keep his own seat free.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Are you open to such a deal?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Rather right, if we're getting more of a vote in
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: a seat than the Liberals are and we have to
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: sort of vacate it so the Liberals.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Can retain it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Well, mate, if you want to stand in a couple
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: of inner suburban seats in Annandale and I don't know
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: this on.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: A Glen elg knock yourself out.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: But we're not going to sacrifice our polling because you're
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: guys are desperate, but you know we want to work
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: But that's a big no. That's a big no, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. You wait and see if you're a
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: more popular Why should you? Barnaby Joyce, thank you so
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: much for your time after the break the latest stunt
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: of fake aboriginy Bruce Pasco and why it is a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: scientific scandal.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: If you who saw Tuesday show about fake aborigin in
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Bruce Pasco, it was alluded me to another event last
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: month starring the dark Emu author which leads me to
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: believe really that science in this country has been corrupted.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: What really gets me most about Pasco is not actually
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that his claiming is Aboriginal and it is not. Far
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: more alarming is how influential people want to believe in
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: this very obvious fakery.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: In this case, Professor Bruce Pasco was the star of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: a Melbourne writers Fessional event hosted by ABC science journalist
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Natasha Mitchill and broadcast on the taxpayer funded ABC promoting
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a book co written with astronomer Ray Norris from our
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: top science organization, the taxpayer funded CSIRO about Aboriginal astronomy
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: such as it was.
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: Natasha Mitchell joining you from the Melbourne Planetarium, its science
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: works in nam Melbourne on Bannarong Country today at a
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: Melbourne Writers Festival event with award winning author of Dark Emu,
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: poet and Aboriginal farmer Bruce Pasco, and astrophysicist an honorary
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: fellow at CSIRO, professor Ray Norris. Together they've co authored
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: a new book about Aboriginal astronomy and its relationship with
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: Western science. It's called Big Sky When the Emu Left
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: the Earth.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Well, among all the genuflection to Aboriginal culture, pass is
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: not an Aboriginal farmer. The most cursory check would tell
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you that. And what Pascar was battling about at that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: festival was not astronomy, it was science, but pure New
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Age moonshine.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: We should never cut down a big tree in this country. Again,
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: we should do everything in our power to leave those
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: big trees, because they are people and they are telling
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: a story, and they are our connection to the sky.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That's our bridge.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: There are stories about people are sending into the sky,
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: of creatures like the imu are sending into the sky.
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: But there are also stories of the whale.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Now the whale's up.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: In the sky as well. But all of these things
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: are linked. You can't separate that emu from that whale
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: from that possum from that ant.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: If that science, I'm a Martian, So here's a fake
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: aborigine made a professor by Melbourne University, pratting fake science
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: at a talk hosted by an ABC science journalists in
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: collaboration with a CSRO scientist and broadcasts on our ABC
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: as a science.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Event.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, really, this does show how science has been corrupted,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Johnny is Rondin, editor in chief of
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: the Spectator Australia, hosts of Outsiders every Sunday at nine
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: am and hosts of his own show on Fridays at
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: seven pm.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Rowand blurb for.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: This book of his describes as as a meeting of
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: science and philosophy tempered by holistic knowledge. I mean really,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: this still tells me that everything sold as science, or
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: anything sold both science by Melbourne University, the CSIRO, the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: ABC and the Melbourne Writers Festival cannot.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Be Well, you're one hundred percent correct, Andrew. And when
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: when they use those words like tempered with or reimagining,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I think Bruce Pasco book was the reimagining of history
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: or with all these words they sound very fluffy and
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: very nice and people go, oh that's great and warm, warm,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: and cuddly, and that's what they are actually get out
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: of jail free cards because they're saying, we're not selling
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: we're trying to sell this as science, but it's not
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: pure science. We're not we're not pretending it's it's the
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: real thing. We've kind of dressed it up with this
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: other stuff. It's basically a fakery. It's the oldest contract.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: These people are grifters in my opinion. But the science community.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: You're right to point to the science community. If Bruce
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Pasco wants to go and write his silly books and
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: turn up on TV shows and whatever, good luck to him.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: But the real problem is when you have the ABC,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: which supposedly has a reputation which it doesn't seem to
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: care about trashing. It's our money, we pay for it,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: and yet they're quite happy to trash their reputation every
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: single day with their bias and now this sort of nonsense.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: But the scientific community should hang its head in shame.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: In Australia, this is strike three. COVID was a disgrace.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: We all know that where many of the things that
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: myself and others purely from a skeptical point of view
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: were raising at the time of COVID, we were shouted
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: down and told no, it's the science.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: How dare you question the.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Science with a capital T and a capitalist You know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: even in the Senate, the Australian Senator REICHA and I
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: were defamed by members of Parliament on the basis that
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: we were spreading misinformation about COVID, which now turns out
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: to be totally true or mainly true. Much of what
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: we were saying. We were just raising skeptical questions. Then
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: we have climate change. We've had two decades of this
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: nonsense where pretty much and you Andrew right at the
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: forefront of this, You've been vilified for years for misinformation
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: or whatever rubbish they say, for simply raising questions, pointing
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: out anomalies everything a true scientist is supposed to do.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: True science is about constantly questioning, challenging the narrative, seeing
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: where the holes are, seeing where it stacks up, where
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: it doesn't stack up, until a new theory comes along
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: and you then challenge that that's what true science is.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You've done it on climate change. I've done it on
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Outsider as my own show around climate change for years now,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: and you get shouted down. But all we're doing is
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: raising very valid questions, which the IPCC itself a couple
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: of weeks ago said, oh hang on, oh yeah, Actually,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: all those crazy extremist scenarios, they're not actually going to happen.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: They're implausible, precisely what you and I and others have
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: been in clime and I have been saying for years.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: So that's two strikes. Now we've got this whole dressing
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: up Indigenous history as basically what I call the Aboriginal Disneyland.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: And you know, anthropology is the legit them at science.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: It's a good science. It's one that in Australia we
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: would be uniquely positioned to study the Stone Age lifestyle, habits,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: the primitive belief systems, et cetera, et cetera of Aboriginal
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Australian's pre settlement. It should be a fascinating subject. But
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: it's not because the left have got hold of it
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: and dressed it up as Disneyland. Bruce Pasco reimagined it all.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: And so rather than doing the original inhabitants of this land,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: the honor and the respect and the dignity of actually
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: studying how they actually lived the good and the bad,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: I know, as well as the wonderful things. But unless
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: you're prepared to go wars and all into history, it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: not just so truth exactly.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Rowan, Rowan, just respect the truth. For the ABC to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: broadcast as some astronomy a white man claim to be
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Aboriginal talking about whales in the sky. Are people losing
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: their tiny minds? I mean, don't they hear themselves? I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: mean it's just so crazy. Rwandine, thank you so much
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: indeed for your time. Really appreciate after the break Britney
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Higgins's bizarre new job to fight for women by stopping
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a woman from becoming a prime minister. Now Donald Trump
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: is finally accepted. It was just so obvious through this
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: so called ceasefire with Iran, and that is Iran was
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: just playing for a sucker. Iran was not serious at
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: all about peace. And now Trump has agreed, who's scrapped
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the cease fire and launched more missile attacks on Iranian
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: military targets.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: We're really close to a deal, but they keep tapping
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: us along, they keep playing us for suckers.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Now, the US attacks so far seemed limited, almost demonstrative,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: rather than really punishing, and it didn't include Israeli jets.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Iran is firing back though at US allies in Q eight,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Jordan and Bahrain claims it or US warship. That's a lie,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: and it's other missiles don't seem to have caused much damage.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Nor does it seem that Iran has cut off shipping
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: completely in the Strait of for Muz like it claims.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: But either way it's not looking like peace. Join me
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a skye New's host jameson person and communications consultant Christy McSweeney,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: who's worked for Coalition of Premnises and premiers.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I want to switch to domestic stuff pretty quickly, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: James quickly.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, he seems so erratic.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: But whenever I say that, you know, Trump fans ringing
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: ride in to say, look, I've got Trump derangement syndrome.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Ando's actually playing forty chess and mere mortals like me
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: can't follow all this. Is there a plan here? Or
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: is chaos the new normal?
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: I don't think he's playing forty chess. I think he's
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: been fairly strong that there are three non negotiables. Iran
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: must give up their nuclear weapons, they must give up
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: support for terror proxies, and they must get out of
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: the strait of hermus. I don't see how Trump can
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: negotiate on those things, which leaves him with two options. A.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: He has to bomb the hell out of Iran. The
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: world don't want him to do that. So far, he's
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: declined to go that far. B. He keeps pushing Iran
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: to the point of economic collapse, hoping there will be
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: enough internal chaos that there will be a change of regime.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: The question is whether or not the US public will
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: allow him the time to keep pushing and squeezing Iran.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: If that doesn't work, I don't see he has any
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: other option other than to go hard militarily. I think
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: Trump is just reluctant to do that because he's not crazy.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: He's not a madman, and he doesn't want chaos. But
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: nor does he want nor should he tolerate, a nuclear Iran.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, except Iran is not like Uranian leadership. They don't
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: care if they're public suffers. They prolong the World War One,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: their war with the Iraq for twice as long as
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: World War One, and really, you know what did they care?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: But let's go to the local news. Honestly, Christy, I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: cannot believe the hutzpah. Here, a left wing lobby group
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: called the Vida Fund I don't know if you know
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it has hired Brittany Higgins to fight a suppose rising
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: tide of misogyny, which Higgins says, oh, look, that means,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you know, we've got to go after one nation, one nation,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and new righteousys are trying to mainstream misogynist scale of
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: strains have never seen before.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: But what stunts is the hypocrisy here.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: You know, Brittany Higgins has destroyed the careers of two women,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: including a former liberal boss, with false claims that they
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: try to shut her up about a right completely false.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: And here she's accusing of misogyny, accusing my nation of misogyny,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a party led by a woman with more female than
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: male members.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Are listening here, Christy, Well.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: First of all, Andrew, everybody has to stand by their
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: own integrity. And that's all I'll say about the court
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: procedures that Miss Higgins engaged in against the former Senator Reynolds,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: and we all know the judgments and the outcomes that
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: led to what we all know.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I've not heard of.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: The Vita Group, but I did read the article today
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: about her appointment everybody has to make a living and
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: has to make living according to the values that they
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: think best represents them. But I will echo your point here,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: and I've set this to Senator Hanson myself walking around
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: the building. I stopped her in the corridor one day
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: and I said, you know, we talk so much in
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: this building in Camebra, and I've been there twenty five years.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: She's been there far longer than me. And every week
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: it feels like we recognize some woman's achievement for longevity
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: in the Australian Parliament, or longevity as a minister, or
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: longevity in a community in this building. And you've been
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: here a lot longer than anyone, and you've led a party,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: was a minor party now it looks like it's being
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: a major party. But she's been the leader of that party,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: and never has she been publicly recognized or lauded for
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: her longevity as a woman in politics in Australia. Believe
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: in her policies and want to vote for her or not,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: but that is a truth that stands.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So true.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Likewise, and Margaret Thanchel was never lauded as a great
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: example to women around the world, although she was a
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: magnificent leader, James McPherson, what do you make of disappointment?
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: So Britney Higgins has come out against one nation. It
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: begs the question how much luck can Pauline Hanson have?
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, it just gets better and better for her.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: This alone will raise one nation's vote by five to
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: ten points. But I mean the hypocrisy here is written
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: Britney Higgins is working for Vita Fund because of the
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: rising tide of misogyny. Well, Vita Fund is the high
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: tide of misogyny. On their website they define a woman
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: as any individual who aligns with womanhood. So tell me,
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: when that's your definition of female, how on earth you
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: can fight misogyny? It's an absolute joke and it will
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: only help one nation and Pauline Hanson. Brilliant news for Pauline.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Well, that may well be right, Chrissy.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: You've mentioned the years you spent in parliament you have
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: advised liberal prime ministers, etcetera, etcetera. A boy, do they
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: never have they needed advice more than now? What would
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: you say to them about how to save themselves from
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: one nation? When, as James just suggested, there, as have
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: mentioned before, her enemy scene now only to make her stronger.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, these internal discussions that we see
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: splash across the front pages if the Australian are not helpful.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Fair enough, if these sorts of things are leaked, And
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: no doubt there are groups of liberal MPs kerbaling together
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: in their offices in Camber and separate dinners are in
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  Speaker 4: Kingston and in Adelaide, and that is what they do
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  Speaker 4: in times of crisis. And it is unhelpful for this
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  Speaker 4: sort of stuff to be not leaked, but to be
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: told to a journalist this is internal. Get on with
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: getting the support back of Australians so they think that
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: you're a viable opposition while you still are the opposition.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: You know a lot of MPs and senators are out
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: there working really hard to hold Labor accountable for their budget.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: The internal machinations on the front pages of The Australian
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  Speaker 4: voluntarily not leaked is not helpful.
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  Speaker 2: Well, just to emphasize your point, so Tony p And
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: says we need a deal, you know, to leave some
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: liberal seats alone by nation who goes and find somewhere else.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Think he means, you know, my seat, don't run against me.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And then I heard James Patterson forced to rebutted on
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: ABC Radio this morning, and then you had Angus Taylor
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: having to do a press conference reference to it, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the story goes and goes and goes and goes, and
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: then Albertisi, of course jeering that, oh well, this is
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the lowest and the loaf of the liberals. So really,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you're quite right, James mcpherston, what would you tell the liberals?
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  Speaker 6: Well, first, Andrew, it's important to understand the Liberals have
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: been going back since they dumped Tony Abbott. And you
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: don't fix ten years of going backwards with one budget
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: reply speech. And the Liberals think they can do that,
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: They're grossly mistaken. People have had enough and it's been
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: going for a long time. I don't think the Liberals
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: can fix this. And I'll give you just one reason
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: why I don't believe they can.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: They say they.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Are not committed to net zero and yet will not
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: remove themselves from the Paris Agreement. If they haven't got
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: even the courage to do that, then why would they
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: believe any disenchanted coalition voters would trust them? Again, I'll
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: give you another one. They could simply come out and
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: say we've had enough of the ABC, we will defund
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: them if we win government. But they're not brave enough
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: to say that either. People don't believe that the conservatives
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: in the coalition have enough courage to be conservative. That's
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: why people are voting for one Nation. I don't think
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: they can fix it because they don't have the courage
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: to do so.
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  Speaker 2: I think you sumble and something here. I've always thought
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: they picked the right issue. It is your enemies that
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: will advertise your virtues louder than your friends. They're more
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: passionate about it, and you've seen that with Hanson now
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: the people screaming races that are exactly the people you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: don't want to encourage, you don't want any part of.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: And so a lot of people are voting one nation instead,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: so we're backing it. So I think the Liberals have
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: been so gun show for so long. They need to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: be an issue where they're going to get criticized, but
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: a good issue. Jameson Furston, Christian McSweeney, thank you very
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: much to you both. After the break the latest on
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the shocking stabbing attack in Belfast that's put mass immigration
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: in the spotlight, and here too, Barnaby Joyce himself mentioned
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: this earlier in the show A horrific crime that's made
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: us here in Australia also ask who are we letting in?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: And why Britain has been shocked by the appalling attack
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in Belfast when the Sudanese asylum seeker allegedly stabbing a
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: local man who'd been helping him, even seeming to be
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: trying to cut off the poor bloke's head, took out
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: an eye. At least, it raises the same question for us,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: of course, when here in Victoria we too often see
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: reports of youths of Sudaney's background involved in crime. Now,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: why did we imports so many from a culture very
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: different from our own and from a war zone at that,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: which obviously has got to suggest there's going to.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Be a clash with values here.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Now, if you have sent me a training manual use
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the New Zealand hospitals to sis staff treating Sudanese patients,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and its extraordinary goes to this very point that tells people,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: you know, avoid looking at Sudanese in the eyes disrespectful.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Many actually believe in the evil eye. Don't point a finger,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: that's rude. The man is the head of the house,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: so treat him with respect, maybe even talk to him,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to talk to his wife. I mean, sons are also
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: encouraged to develop valiance and strength to protect themselves.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: It said.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Many children from refugee camps have witnessed a lot of violence,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: may be traumatize, many may struggle to fit in and
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: so on pages of it. So it's it really smart
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: or fair on us to bring them here rather than
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: help them there. But to how Britain is dealing with
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: this attack. Joining me from London is GMN news host
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Christie's Patrick, great to see you again. What is
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the latest about the Sudanese man.
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  Speaker 12: Well, the very latest, Andrew, is that he's called had
• 44:10
  Speaker 12: He a Lodded. He's thirty years old, and it was
• 44:13
  Speaker 12: revealed in court yesterday by a police officer that apparently
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: he told healthcare workers I've killed someone. I don't know
• 44:20
  Speaker 12: if they're dead, and whilst in hospital receiving treatment for
• 44:23
  Speaker 12: a hand injury, he told medical staff I will kill you.
• 44:27
  Speaker 12: Now we now know more about his route into Britain.
• 44:30
  Speaker 12: He actually got on a plane from Sudan before the
• 44:33
  Speaker 12: start of the civil war, got a flight to Paris,
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: presumably using false documents because there was no record of him.
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: He then flew from Paris to Dublin before getting on
• 44:43
  Speaker 12: a public coach to Belfast in Northern Ireland. He was
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: then fast tracked for his asylum claim, which means that
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: he possibly didn't even have an interview. He was granted
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: indefinitely to remain and once he was granted that that
• 44:58
  Speaker 12: will have given him access to housing and several different
• 45:02
  Speaker 12: benefits as well, taxpayer funded of course, but we're now
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: also learning more about this migrant route.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Generally speaking, these.
• 45:09
  Speaker 12: Human traffickers are advertising it on social media as a
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: one hundred percent guaranteed way of getting into the UK,
• 45:16
  Speaker 12: and actually they are pretty much right about that, because
• 45:19
  Speaker 12: the biggest emerged late last night in Britain that we
• 45:22
  Speaker 12: have only deported one person, just one person who took
• 45:27
  Speaker 12: that route from the Republic of Ireland into the North
• 45:30
  Speaker 12: of Ireland and just very quickly. Andrew, I've been to
• 45:33
  Speaker 12: northern France a couple of times to report in the
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: small boat crisis, and the overwhelming majority of people I
• 45:37
  Speaker 12: met out there were Sudanese and the first time I went,
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: they were relatively calm, everything seemed kind of okay. The
• 45:44
  Speaker 12: second time, more recently, it was much more aggressive, and
• 45:48
  Speaker 12: you had some Muslims, some Christians, because that is, let's
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: be honest with you, both sides of the civil war.
• 45:53
  Speaker 12: And that's the point. We have imported both sides of
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: the civil war. They have been fighting each other in
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: northern France and you know you've alluded to it here.
• 46:02
  Speaker 12: It's about culture, it's about lived experience that they get
• 46:05
  Speaker 12: and this is a big, big problem for us here
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: It is so, I mean, I understand why the world
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: fleeing Sudan. It's absolute hellhole. I heard of a Sudney guy,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: a taxi driver the other day telling someone I know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Look, it's just it's rubbish.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: It's terrible and scarcely look what they've done to the country.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: But then we import the people who be part of
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: that into our own country. But godly gosh, anyway, I
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: showed I start the riots in response Patrick, very ugly
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: reports of mobs going house to house looking for immigrants.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: What's been the government's response to this.
• 46:44
  Speaker 12: Well, it's been absolutely appalling the government response. To be
• 46:46
  Speaker 12: perfectly honest with you, I mean, look, obviously it's inexcusable
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: going house to house and setting by to things. I
• 46:51
  Speaker 12: think we can all accept that, but you can't change
• 46:53
  Speaker 12: Britain unless you're able to confront the problem. The Irish
• 46:55
  Speaker 12: leader's first statement after this attempted beheading was all about
• 47:00
  Speaker 12: what an inclusive and welcoming society we are. Well, I'm sorry,
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: but that wasn't particularly inclusive or welcoming, was it. And
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: they won't accept people using the phrase alien culture and
• 47:10
  Speaker 12: you've alluded to it. Their different societal norms. They're all
• 47:13
  Speaker 12: making it about the language now, but this is the
• 47:15
  Speaker 12: big one for me. Last night the Labor government announced
• 47:18
  Speaker 12: that they are planning on banning social media. Quote in
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: times of crisis, who defines what a crisis is? Prosecuting
• 47:28
  Speaker 12: people that they were accused of inciting violence? Now, in
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: the wake of Henry Novak's murder, Nigel Farage said we
• 47:34
  Speaker 12: should respond with pure cold rage. They then accused him
• 47:37
  Speaker 12: of causing violence. So would Nigel Farage be arrested and
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: sent to prison if there was an his limits terror
• 47:43
  Speaker 12: attack here or a similar thing to what we saw
• 47:45
  Speaker 12: with Henry Novak or something along those lines, right, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 12: people start posting about it, would we see a social
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: media blackout?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 47:52
  Speaker 12: This is what the Turkish government did when there was
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: a military coup in twenty sixteen. It's not what we
• 47:57
  Speaker 12: expect in Britain when we see attacked by seekers. There
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: is no talk about putting certain countries on the band
• 48:04
  Speaker 12: list like we've seen in other countries. There's very little
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: talk about more deportations, and of course it's tricky to
• 48:10
  Speaker 12: see a way in which there could be any kind
• 48:11
  Speaker 12: of hard border between the Republic and Northern Ireland. It
• 48:15
  Speaker 12: is interesting that the traditional tensions between the Catholics and
• 48:18
  Speaker 12: the Protestants in Northern Ireland have actually subsided and they
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: have now largely united in the face of a kind
• 48:25
  Speaker 12: of common issue, which is illegal immigration. So in a
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: perverse way, it's kind of bringing some communities together.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's going to add a new verse to that
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: old song of the Orange and the Green, that we're
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: coming together, the orange and the green and a different
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: color completely. Honestly, what mess immigration is doing I think
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: needs more honesty and not blackouts. Patrick Cristis, thank you
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: so much for your time, really appreciate it. Ub Next
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: this Sherry Maxim with another great show from me.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Good night, No