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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sulise, John Oshans
- 0:08Speaker 1: Bran Jacks Drive starts right now. If you said in January,
- 0:17Speaker 1: what would be your ideal vision of what the team
- 0:20Speaker 1: look like in what is May? And once again, I'm
- 0:22Speaker 1: not talking about execution. I'm just talking about camaraderie, ownership, work, ethic, sports, performance,
- 0:29Speaker 1: changing bodies, health of players. You know, I created an
- 0:33Speaker 1: A plus. I can't be more happy with everybody talks
- 0:36Speaker 1: about the draft and free agency. I'm not gonna let
- 0:39Speaker 1: people forget there's a great core group of players in
- 0:42Speaker 1: the Jaguars organization that want to win, and uh, it's
- 0:45Speaker 1: our coach's job to give them an opportunity to win.
- 0:47Speaker 1: So they're all here. They all enjoyed being around each other,
- 0:51Speaker 1: they enjoyed being around the staff, and uh, it's been
- 0:54Speaker 1: It's been really good. Another week of O t a
- 0:58Speaker 1: S ninety guide and attend last week one d attendance.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Gotta love that we're here. Jaguars Drive Time, Ashland Salvin,
- 1:06Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and John Osier. Happy Memorial Day to you.
- 1:10Speaker 1: We hope everyone had a great weekend. Didn't hate having
- 1:14Speaker 1: a day off, I won't admit it. How would you guys,
- 1:17Speaker 1: You will admit I will admit it. Yeah, it was good.
- 1:20Speaker 1: It was three days in May and now we're back
- 1:23Speaker 1: to work for what five more on field sessions. Uh
- 1:27Speaker 1: so that's good too. I will say this. It was
- 1:29Speaker 1: nice and cool in the mornings and the evenings, right,
- 1:32Speaker 1: I mean unseasonably cool. It felt like to me at
- 1:34Speaker 1: least out of the beach with that nice breeze. I
- 1:37Speaker 1: would love it if we saw some of that weather
- 1:39Speaker 1: continue on through summer, right and this week on the
- 1:42Speaker 1: field that the players would love that. It was. It
- 1:44Speaker 1: was beautiful weekend to live in North Florida. It was.
- 1:46Speaker 1: It made me laugh. For Cky minicamp. We heard players saying, oh,
- 1:49Speaker 1: it's so nice out, this is really great, and I
- 1:51Speaker 1: was like, just wait till August. You're gonna love it here.
- 1:55Speaker 1: In't that adorable? All right, here we go, let's get
- 1:57Speaker 1: into big things. Big thing one is for thoughts. We
- 2:00Speaker 1: watched a full practice last week at O t S
- 2:03Speaker 1: and some takeaways that we're going to go over with you.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Defense shine during red zone period, but that's not really
- 2:09Speaker 1: a surprise with a young offense but is still trying
- 2:12Speaker 1: to get their timing down we also have some players
- 2:14Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. This week's will go over.
- 2:17Speaker 1: That big thing too is changing changing culture on the show.
- 2:21Speaker 1: We're always talking about it, but it's totally different when
- 2:24Speaker 1: you hear a franchise player talk about the changing culture. So,
- 2:28Speaker 1: Brandon Linder, what has been different since Urban Meyer has
- 2:31Speaker 1: been hired. It's just on the performance side, um, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 1: dry needling, cupping, all the different therapies, activation stuff, equipment,
- 2:43Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I mean, you know, we've got
- 2:45Speaker 1: a couple of new facilities going up. Um. And in
- 2:48Speaker 1: the food you know, the food has been better and nutrition,
- 2:50Speaker 1: all these different shakes and whatnot. So I mean it's
- 2:53Speaker 1: just we have more at our hands now to succeed
- 2:57Speaker 1: in too, you know, help us show potential on the field,
- 3:01Speaker 1: you know, show our values. Big thing three is professionals.
- 3:05Speaker 1: This is a job. We always talk about it. It's
- 3:07Speaker 1: great to see the camaraderie and everyone here having fun
- 3:10Speaker 1: on the field, but treat it like a job. And
- 3:13Speaker 1: that's exactly what ray Sean Jenkins and Shas Griffin are
- 3:17Speaker 1: doing during a voluntary off season. You can just tell
- 3:21Speaker 1: just both of our mindsets and approach to the game
- 3:25Speaker 1: is just different. And much more just professional. Um, you know,
- 3:28Speaker 1: even like today we came out there. We we we
- 3:31Speaker 1: came and before prectice, we talked to each other, Hey,
- 3:33Speaker 1: what we need to work on it day? What do
- 3:35Speaker 1: I need to work on a day? Better? Let's make
- 3:37Speaker 1: sure we're doing that and then we don't do we
- 3:39Speaker 1: started doing. I mean, if we don't see each other
- 3:41Speaker 1: doing that, let's hold each other accountable. And uh so
- 3:44Speaker 1: it's just a professional Uh listen, as as you know
- 3:48Speaker 1: we age. But you know he's always been a great
- 3:51Speaker 1: football player, and you know, I spend nothing else. Very
- 3:56Speaker 1: cool connection there. They are childhood friends, played youth football
- 3:59Speaker 1: to other and now in the locker room asking each
- 4:02Speaker 1: other what do you need to work on to day?
- 4:03Speaker 1: So I thought that was a pretty cool story there.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Well I laughed because he said they're more professional now
- 4:08Speaker 1: than when they played together when they were eight and
- 4:11Speaker 1: make a little more money. I would hope so, And
- 4:14Speaker 1: that is a cool story. I mean, you know again
- 4:17Speaker 1: you would hope that they have better preparation habits at
- 4:21Speaker 1: this point, but that would be a cool thing. You know,
- 4:23Speaker 1: you're sitting there playing football, I mean with the kid
- 4:26Speaker 1: when you were seven and then all of a sudden,
- 4:28Speaker 1: you're twenty five and you're trying to push each other
- 4:31Speaker 1: to make it in a profession, so it was anyone
- 4:34Speaker 1: else look at that though. Dude has got a lot
- 4:36Speaker 1: of hair, and you wonder how he gets a helmet on.
- 4:40Speaker 1: I mean, I know he puts it all down and stuff,
- 4:41Speaker 1: but I just my first reaction every time is how
- 4:44Speaker 1: how does he get a helmet on? He obviously does.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Hair is not fun in the butt. Let's go back
- 4:49Speaker 1: up to the top and talk about first impressions, because
- 4:51Speaker 1: this team has not stopped the run since, uh, since
- 4:55Speaker 1: a game in Cincinnati where Marcel Darius was injured, and
- 5:00Speaker 1: and last year obviously was a debacle. And the first
- 5:04Speaker 1: thing I noticed was how many bodies they had, and
- 5:08Speaker 1: not just bodies, but big bodies in the defensive line group.
- 5:12Speaker 1: They had numbers, they had size. I mean, you see
- 5:15Speaker 1: these guys now and realize, um, they'll stop the run.
- 5:21Speaker 1: I mean they've got huge size and numbers. It is
- 5:25Speaker 1: a dramatic and dramatically better looking group of people, uh
- 5:31Speaker 1: than they had here in the last year or two. Well,
- 5:34Speaker 1: they made it clear Urban Meyer, I started free agency,
- 5:37Speaker 1: made it clear that was the number one priority, and
- 5:40Speaker 1: They not only threw big bodies, they threw a lot
- 5:43Speaker 1: at it, and they threw some talented guys meaning I'm
- 5:46Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown to Faile Har was supposed to. Yeah, he's
- 5:51Speaker 1: the guy that stood out the most. He is a
- 5:52Speaker 1: massive body. Yes, so they they went after it with
- 5:56Speaker 1: quality with those guys. And then you can also tell
- 5:59Speaker 1: they sort of played the numbers game is played safe
- 6:01Speaker 1: and see if we can get some other guys to
- 6:02Speaker 1: develop as well. So, yeah, that was the thing you noticed.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Now also noticed Brian the front seven overall on defense. Uh,
- 6:10Speaker 1: just the total numbers is the increased athleticism, Uh, you know,
- 6:14Speaker 1: so that's going to be something to watch. You mentioned
- 6:16Speaker 1: to Fele and Malcolm Brown, and then you see Devon
- 6:19Speaker 1: Hamilton's who we all were talking about how he was
- 6:22Speaker 1: growing through last season and then he got hurt and
- 6:25Speaker 1: you kind of forget about him. So there are plenty
- 6:28Speaker 1: of names and plenty of there's plenty of talent to
- 6:32Speaker 1: work with upfront. That was the thing that stood out
- 6:34Speaker 1: to me. And I know the focus was on on
- 6:37Speaker 1: the offense with the quarterback, and everybody wanted to see
- 6:40Speaker 1: him and Tim Tebow together and the storylines are evident
- 6:43Speaker 1: but that group in particular, it was impressive. Yes, the
- 6:47Speaker 1: line around at the tight end drills was definitely amplified
- 6:51Speaker 1: and an O T A I will admit that. But
- 6:53Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me, John and you wrote about
- 6:54Speaker 1: it was when you were watching red zone drills and
- 6:57Speaker 1: the story when line was that Trevor Lawrence ruggled a
- 7:00Speaker 1: bit and the offense the timing was a little off.
- 7:02Speaker 1: But then you look into it and it's not really
- 7:04Speaker 1: a surprise, and we write the defense shines and they
- 7:06Speaker 1: look great, which they did, but it takes some time
- 7:09Speaker 1: for this offense to get a rhythm. Well, it's cool things.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Remember here the media is seeing right now. Unlike years
- 7:15Speaker 1: past when we all watched tan O T A s
- 7:20Speaker 1: and three mini camps, we're watching one out of three
- 7:23Speaker 1: each week O T S right now. I remire made
- 7:25Speaker 1: a point to say, the offense and Trevor Lawrence has
- 7:28Speaker 1: looked very good on Wednesday, So trying to analyze this
- 7:32Speaker 1: is dangerous because you're only analyzing one out of three.
- 7:36Speaker 1: The red zone offense wasn't very good. Trevor Lawrence did struggle,
- 7:39Speaker 1: but red zone offense is the it's often the last
- 7:45Speaker 1: thing that quarterbacks get that offenses get When I was
- 7:49Speaker 1: covering the Colt with Peyton Manning, I forget which year
- 7:52Speaker 1: it was, but he talked about that, all of a sudden,
- 7:54Speaker 1: their red zone offense was like, which is absurd, but
- 7:58Speaker 1: he made a point that's clear really the hardest. That's
- 8:01Speaker 1: clearly the last thing to come together for any offense.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Why they work on it so much during practice And
- 8:07Speaker 1: here's a news flash. They may not be great to
- 8:09Speaker 1: start the season in the red zone. Next year, they
- 8:11Speaker 1: might they might have been good in the red zone
- 8:13Speaker 1: at all the year. Right, that is the last measure,
- 8:18Speaker 1: and it's often the measure of how young quarterbacks developing.
- 8:21Speaker 1: You would expect Trevor Lawrence not to be as good
- 8:23Speaker 1: there next year as he will be in And people forget,
- 8:27Speaker 1: so we'll remind you. The field gets compressed. It's so
- 8:31Speaker 1: there's so many more bodies. And I saw him making
- 8:35Speaker 1: the right reads and trying to drop the ball in
- 8:37Speaker 1: spots and he was overshooting guys right, just timing. Yeah,
- 8:40Speaker 1: so it's something he doesn't know what to do with it.
- 8:42Speaker 1: It's the timing issue and knowing where to go and
- 8:45Speaker 1: when and how to fire it through. And that's going
- 8:47Speaker 1: to take time it will I once will say one
- 8:49Speaker 1: thing that was promising when you were watching in the
- 8:51Speaker 1: offense is how many options there were. How many playmakers
- 8:54Speaker 1: there were. I mean even when it was third team
- 8:56Speaker 1: and it was Jake Luten like Chris Man. Hurts is
- 8:58Speaker 1: one of them. I know we're gonna talk about it
- 8:59Speaker 1: next segment. But he was brought in here to be
- 9:02Speaker 1: a blocking tight end and he's catching touchdowns left and right.
- 9:05Speaker 1: So I will say that with promising, there are a
- 9:07Speaker 1: lot of he's a big body. Yeah, guys out there
- 9:09Speaker 1: making place. Agreed. I love that. Thanks for a green
- 9:14Speaker 1: When we come back. That is big things. Who are
- 9:16Speaker 1: we looking at during O t S. Three guys that
- 9:19Speaker 1: stood out this week and last week. We'll come back
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- 12:00Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, a man of many talents, making an appearance
- 12:03Speaker 1: at a WS all are nothing with Charlie Strong the
- 12:07Speaker 1: football throwing that gets me. I was a big wrestling
- 12:12Speaker 1: fan growing up, like w W was my thing. I
- 12:15Speaker 1: think I read that one yes, and now that my
- 12:17Speaker 1: worlds are colliding, Oh my gosh, I never thought it'd
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- 12:23Speaker 1: j C lover once to three eight was my first email.
- 12:26Speaker 1: I lost a lot of fans lately. What not me
- 12:30Speaker 1: for his China thing? You didn't follow that? No, I
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- 12:36Speaker 1: watch his video. Yeah. Needless to say that this place
- 12:40Speaker 1: was becoming an entertainment all things around it just not football.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Um yeah, yeah. As a kid, I used to watch
- 12:48Speaker 1: Gordon solely broadcasting Dusty Rhodes and things. They're way way
- 12:53Speaker 1: before your time shellin So it's it's a it's entertained,
- 12:57Speaker 1: it's entertained. It is all right. Let's go back to
- 13:00Speaker 1: football and O T A S this week. So we
- 13:02Speaker 1: got to watch a full practice Lacks last week and
- 13:04Speaker 1: there were three guys that stood out to us, maybe
- 13:07Speaker 1: more than others. So, Brian Sexton, you are up. Jordan Smith,
- 13:11Speaker 1: the the pass rusher from U A B. And again,
- 13:14Speaker 1: expectations for what he'll do this year are not very high.
- 13:17Speaker 1: They said it on draft weekend that this was lightning
- 13:19Speaker 1: in a bottle. But you can see right there just
- 13:22Speaker 1: how tall, broad and long he is. I mean, if
- 13:26Speaker 1: you're looking for an edge rusher for this three or
- 13:29Speaker 1: four defense, that's what you're looking for. You don't find
- 13:33Speaker 1: many guys on the planet. They have that combination of size,
- 13:37Speaker 1: length and speed. Um again, I'm watching him because I'm
- 13:42Speaker 1: looking and thinking what will he be in three years
- 13:44Speaker 1: if he develops, because remember he was a Florida sign a.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who had sec ability. Okay, now,
- 13:52Speaker 1: can you get that out of him in the NFL.
- 13:54Speaker 1: If you can you've got a guy that can be
- 13:57Speaker 1: a massive edition with Josh Allen and can Von Chason.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Holy cow. I mean, you can really have something special
- 14:03Speaker 1: there that that's on the edge, that's down the road,
- 14:06Speaker 1: but it's undeniable physical ability. Well, it's the kind of
- 14:11Speaker 1: thing you can do that. Again, when I covered the Colts,
- 14:15Speaker 1: they brought in Robert Mathis one year in two thousand three.
- 14:18Speaker 1: I believe at three or four sacks. He shined at
- 14:20Speaker 1: the end of the year with the idea that he
- 14:22Speaker 1: could develop the next season. Uh, this feels a little
- 14:25Speaker 1: bit like that to me. Matthews went to a significally
- 14:29Speaker 1: smaller school, but the same sort of developmental project. Uh,
- 14:33Speaker 1: he was impressive. Psycho man hurts. Now is that you
- 14:37Speaker 1: can just go ahead with your um you know, it's
- 14:42Speaker 1: it's easy to look at young guys in these things,
- 14:44Speaker 1: and if the tricky part about trying to pick out
- 14:48Speaker 1: somebody in O. T A S Is it's very difficult
- 14:51Speaker 1: to go with interior defensive line and it's difficult to
- 14:53Speaker 1: go with offensive one because what are you really going
- 14:55Speaker 1: to see out of them? I thought last week it
- 14:57Speaker 1: might be tricky to go with man Hurts because he
- 14:59Speaker 1: is a blocking tight end. Um, there was a little
- 15:04Speaker 1: bit of a rumbling when they first signed him to
- 15:07Speaker 1: look out that this guy might be more than just
- 15:10Speaker 1: a blocking tight end. The catch he made, I think
- 15:14Speaker 1: they're shown it here. Um. The catch he made, uh
- 15:19Speaker 1: one O t A catch doesn't make him Travis Kelsey,
- 15:22Speaker 1: but it was impressive enough where you thought, Okay, he's
- 15:27Speaker 1: not just going to be lining up as a six
- 15:30Speaker 1: offensive tack. We talked about him so much in in
- 15:32Speaker 1: the run game that I've gotten questions in the ozone
- 15:35Speaker 1: about well, why don't they just sign him up a
- 15:37Speaker 1: tackle and sign a real tight it. Well, he's got
- 15:40Speaker 1: enough to be a real tight end. So interested. So
- 15:43Speaker 1: he got the impression listening to people talk about Man
- 15:45Speaker 1: Hurts that he was one of the original seven blocks
- 15:47Speaker 1: of Granted, right, I mean he's not that Hello. There
- 15:51Speaker 1: was afford him offensive line a long time ago. Vince
- 15:53Speaker 1: Lombardi was part of that team. But they didn't throw
- 15:56Speaker 1: the ball, They just ran it. You just felt that
- 15:57Speaker 1: was all they were gonna do with this kid. But
- 15:59Speaker 1: John's point was well taken. That is, he showed athleticism
- 16:02Speaker 1: to be able to make He's huge, I mean the
- 16:05Speaker 1: massive body, but he also got off the ground and
- 16:07Speaker 1: twisted and contorted to be able to take the ball
- 16:10Speaker 1: away as you saw from between two defenders. Um, if
- 16:13Speaker 1: he can do that for you, wow, I mean that's
- 16:16Speaker 1: what I noticed at the tight end position. Nice, That's
- 16:19Speaker 1: what I was watching down in the mob so much
- 16:23Speaker 1: so that Coach Meyer after that practice said, yeah, I
- 16:25Speaker 1: think we're going to use him in pass catching. Surprise,
- 16:27Speaker 1: we might use him there, and that's exactly what we
- 16:30Speaker 1: were looking for. All right, speaking of pass catching, come on, Len,
- 16:34Speaker 1: say his name right, Matt or Baby, how do I do?
- 16:40Speaker 1: I think that's perfect? Yeah, this is a guy that
- 16:44Speaker 1: I noticed. He might have made it the catch of
- 16:46Speaker 1: the day. It was slightly out of bound, so we
- 16:49Speaker 1: can't call it the catch of the day, but if
- 16:51Speaker 1: it wasn't bounced, it would have been showed off that
- 16:54Speaker 1: record breaking forty six five inches at the scouting combine.
- 16:58Speaker 1: That was a record this year. So this guy has
- 17:00Speaker 1: a huge vertical leap and it's really gonna be It's
- 17:04Speaker 1: gonna make it interesting because right now, there are so
- 17:06Speaker 1: many talented wide receivers on this team. You don't think
- 17:09Speaker 1: this guy that is going to make the roster right now,
- 17:11Speaker 1: what are you see in that picture? Though I know
- 17:13Speaker 1: he's gonna make it interesting. You see the length, You
- 17:15Speaker 1: see the flexibility, you see the ability to track the ball.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I mean you you see things that normal people can't do,
- 17:22Speaker 1: which is why even though he's an undrafted rookie free agent,
- 17:26Speaker 1: he's got a skill set. And if the practice squad
- 17:29Speaker 1: is enlarge this year as it has been, I mean,
- 17:32Speaker 1: a guy like this is an absolute no brainer because
- 17:34Speaker 1: you don't find a lot of guys, even at a
- 17:36Speaker 1: position wide receiver where you can find lots of receivers
- 17:39Speaker 1: that again have his size, his length, and his physical attributes.
- 17:43Speaker 1: The ability to reach and track and turn for the ball.
- 17:46Speaker 1: That's what scouts are looking for. Yeah, his vertical leap
- 17:49Speaker 1: was absolutely crazy in the red zone. And and like
- 17:52Speaker 1: we said, this wide receiver group, you love it because
- 17:54Speaker 1: they're so talented, there's so many options. I'm really curious
- 17:57Speaker 1: to see how he pushes this group because he's gonna
- 17:59Speaker 1: make it even more interesting. They're not going to get
- 18:01Speaker 1: rid of guys who can run and play fast. They're
- 18:05Speaker 1: going to figure out a way to keep them. Uh,
- 18:08Speaker 1: and that entails keeping an extra defensive back in the
- 18:12Speaker 1: practice squad, an extra wider c run the practice squad.
- 18:14Speaker 1: So uh, they will find room for guys who can
- 18:17Speaker 1: run and play fast. Love it's here, It's all that
- 18:20Speaker 1: is who we were looking at when we come back
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- 20:49Speaker 1: going to Vancouver. Do you really believe a culture change
- 20:53Speaker 1: makes a difference? I am personally leaning know this building
- 20:56Speaker 1: a new culture business is talking to hear yourself talk hashtag. Well,
- 21:02Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from. And this was a
- 21:04Speaker 1: much longer email, and the reader made a good point.
- 21:07Speaker 1: He said, Look, you guys talked about culture change when
- 21:10Speaker 1: Malarkey came in here. You talked about it when Gus
- 21:12Speaker 1: came in here, you talked about when Coughlin came in here,
- 21:14Speaker 1: and then when Kauflin left with Moron. The culture change
- 21:19Speaker 1: matters in this way. You have to change the culture
- 21:23Speaker 1: as a head coach because nothing works unless the players
- 21:27Speaker 1: believe in what you're selling. So there is an element
- 21:31Speaker 1: of that. Every coach has to change his culture because
- 21:33Speaker 1: you get to get guys believing. Now that said, there
- 21:37Speaker 1: is a uniqueness to what's going on around here. It's different.
- 21:40Speaker 1: It's being backed up by the facilities you see. It's
- 21:43Speaker 1: also backed up by an unbelievable amount of winning in
- 21:46Speaker 1: Urban Myers past, and by having a franchise quarterback. So
- 21:49Speaker 1: there are tangible building blocks and elements that go with
- 21:53Speaker 1: the culture. But this person's point is correct. Culture means
- 21:57Speaker 1: nothing in and of itself. It has to be built
- 22:00Speaker 1: around something unless you have great players. I mean, you
- 22:03Speaker 1: could have bad players and great culture and it doesn't matter, right,
- 22:06Speaker 1: But good players with a lousy culture usually doesn't work.
- 22:10Speaker 1: No Urban knows you have to build a culture. But
- 22:13Speaker 1: he's also not naive. He knows he has to have
- 22:15Speaker 1: a good playing twenties six previous seasons. There's ever only
- 22:18Speaker 1: been one culture in this building, and that was Tom Coughlin's,
- 22:21Speaker 1: the concentration line that he started early. Jack tried to
- 22:23Speaker 1: have one. He didn't. He had good players and no culture.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Malarkey wasn't here long enough to establish any culture at all.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Two and fourteen you're out the door. Gus never one,
- 22:33Speaker 1: So the culture didn't take place, and that was more
- 22:35Speaker 1: of a culture of each individual player focusing on himself
- 22:40Speaker 1: as opposed it was a different kind of culture. Doug
- 22:42Speaker 1: was never a culture guy. Right. You may use the
- 22:45Speaker 1: word because it's a popular word. The only time there
- 22:48Speaker 1: was a culture in this building was when there was
- 22:50Speaker 1: an edgy expectation that you would do things right if
- 22:54Speaker 1: you did things wrong. With coughlin Man, you heard about it,
- 22:57Speaker 1: and we can tell the stories about guys getting fined
- 23:00Speaker 1: for what they were on the airplane, for what they
- 23:02Speaker 1: said in the hallway instead of in the interview room.
- 23:04Speaker 1: I mean, there's just countless examples of it. But the
- 23:07Speaker 1: culture was we're all about winning here at all times,
- 23:10Speaker 1: and you will do the right things for the right
- 23:12Speaker 1: reasons and we will win. No other culture coach here culture,
- 23:16Speaker 1: no other coach here was ever successful in establishing a culture.
- 23:20Speaker 1: I believe, based on what I've seen and felt on
- 23:23Speaker 1: the field, Urban Meyer is doing the exact same thing
- 23:25Speaker 1: that TC did back in those days. There is expectation,
- 23:29Speaker 1: is a high level expectation. In fact, you heard Brandon
- 23:31Speaker 1: Linder say it. He said, oh yeah, no, we're getting
- 23:34Speaker 1: food and we're getting all of the different uh you know,
- 23:37Speaker 1: the dry needling and the cupping and all those things,
- 23:39Speaker 1: but we have to give it back on the field. Right. Yeah,
- 23:42Speaker 1: that's exactly what TC did and other coaches talked about
- 23:45Speaker 1: it in their time here, but no one ever got
- 23:47Speaker 1: it done. So we'll see the culture doesn't matter unless
- 23:50Speaker 1: they win. If they win, you'll see the culture as
- 23:53Speaker 1: a primary factor in the way they do business. And
- 23:56Speaker 1: if they don't, it'll be Now that's that culture word again. Yeah,
- 23:59Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. And Brandon Leinner's in the
- 24:01Speaker 1: press conference, it was almost like it was like spoiled.
- 24:04Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to know the right word
- 24:06Speaker 1: for somebody used the word pampered instead. You guys are
- 24:08Speaker 1: being pamperty. What whoa? No, it's my job and this
- 24:11Speaker 1: is what I need to succeed. It's not and we
- 24:13Speaker 1: have to give it back on the field. Well, and
- 24:16Speaker 1: that's the key and what is impressive about Urban And
- 24:20Speaker 1: again we were not around him until this all started.
- 24:22Speaker 1: We saw him from Afar, we saw him in Florida
- 24:24Speaker 1: slim as the Gator fans, so she saw it um
- 24:28Speaker 1: but his ability two get the message across when Brandon
- 24:37Speaker 1: linder said that about giving back what they're getting and
- 24:41Speaker 1: it's not very good at putting but you know what
- 24:43Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, that wasn't a surprise to any of us,
- 24:46Speaker 1: because that was one of the first things urban said
- 24:48Speaker 1: out of the box. It's one of the things he
- 24:49Speaker 1: said in the second press conference. He has a very
- 24:53Speaker 1: impressive ability to make sure that what's important to him
- 24:57Speaker 1: about the culture is what he says in the media.
- 25:02Speaker 1: It's what he said to the players. The players have
- 25:03Speaker 1: repeated it back to us. It's getting through what the
- 25:06Speaker 1: culture is supposed to be. Uh Again, none of that
- 25:10Speaker 1: matters unless you win. But there's a consistency across the
- 25:13Speaker 1: board that makes you think this cultural will take hold.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Totally agree. One of the other things is he keeps saying,
- 25:18Speaker 1: and we've heard it not players saying as well, that
- 25:20Speaker 1: we talked about the draft picks and free agency and
- 25:23Speaker 1: all these great new guys coming in and coach Meyers like,
- 25:25Speaker 1: let's not forget about the guys that have been here.
- 25:27Speaker 1: You know, it's our job to coach these guys that
- 25:29Speaker 1: have been in the building. He was saying that from
- 25:31Speaker 1: the beginning to he's been very uh vocal when he's
- 25:35Speaker 1: getting he's been giving the opportunity to talk about Josh Allen,
- 25:39Speaker 1: to talk about Brandon Lender to talk about many guys
- 25:42Speaker 1: that they've brought back. Uh, because he knows there was
- 25:46Speaker 1: more talent here and more building blocks than a one
- 25:49Speaker 1: and fifteen team would usually have a lot. Obviously, when
- 25:53Speaker 1: a lot has to go right too. But I think
- 25:57Speaker 1: he was I would say surprised, but has been. Uh,
- 26:01Speaker 1: you're taken with how much there already is here? He doesn't.
- 26:04Speaker 1: He doesn't want people to forget that one final thing
- 26:05Speaker 1: on the culture. The reason people call him a culture builder, right,
- 26:09Speaker 1: which is how a lot of the national media referred
- 26:12Speaker 1: to him when he came in, is because he's one everywhere.
- 26:14Speaker 1: He's been Ball State, Utah, Florida, Ohio States. So guess
- 26:17Speaker 1: what happens. The culture takes center stage, this is how
- 26:20Speaker 1: we do things, and nobody questions it because he's one everywhere.
- 26:24Speaker 1: He's been three national championships. So if you want to
- 26:28Speaker 1: bet on there being a strong culture here, I've been
- 26:30Speaker 1: heavily in his favor. Absolutely. Let's go to Fruit Cove, Florida. Michael,
- 26:35Speaker 1: what do you got for us? You said after free
- 26:38Speaker 1: agency you expect all new signings to make the final roster,
- 26:42Speaker 1: assuming Johnson Jones, chanals chart and Camp our locks both
- 26:47Speaker 1: Agnue in doorset would be seven receivers. Someone is the
- 26:51Speaker 1: odd man out here. Well, this reader also mentioned Travis
- 26:54Speaker 1: at En. He's gonna play some receiver. I don't think
- 26:57Speaker 1: you count him as a receiver and you're counting of number,
- 27:00Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna be dangerous to try to
- 27:02Speaker 1: count up numbers at the receiver position. For this reason,
- 27:06Speaker 1: Jamal Agnew was signed as a returner and a receiver.
- 27:09Speaker 1: So if this bunch is going to keep guys who
- 27:15Speaker 1: can make an impact, Camp is also a guy who
- 27:18Speaker 1: can be kept on the practice squad. I still would
- 27:21Speaker 1: think all seven of these guys are playing a role
- 27:24Speaker 1: and are around this franchise in some capacity next year. Also,
- 27:28Speaker 1: remember the practice squad you can have a veteran or
- 27:31Speaker 1: two on it now, whereas before you had to be
- 27:33Speaker 1: under a certain year. So you know, I wouldn't say
- 27:37Speaker 1: Camp is a lock for the I don't know there's
- 27:41Speaker 1: that many locks for theft. Yeah, I would. I wouldn't
- 27:43Speaker 1: put him on it, to be honest with you, but
- 27:45Speaker 1: he's going to I'd be surprised if he's not around
- 27:47Speaker 1: as a practice squad guy. Uh And much like your
- 27:51Speaker 1: guy whose name I can't say that they're going to
- 27:54Speaker 1: find spots for guys they believe can make an impact.
- 27:57Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, well, Philip dor said,
- 27:58Speaker 1: he hasn't done this, He hasn't done that at in
- 28:00Speaker 1: the NFL. They signed him for speed. My point when
- 28:04Speaker 1: I answered this question earli in the offseason, h somebody said, well,
- 28:07Speaker 1: they signed twelve free agents and they they traded from
- 28:10Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown. Can he really keep all those guys? We'll
- 28:14Speaker 1: listening to the coaches talk about it. They weren't just
- 28:17Speaker 1: sort of out there signing guys Willie Nelly. They had
- 28:20Speaker 1: specific roles they wanted for all those guys. Doors Set
- 28:24Speaker 1: was a guy that they wanted because they feel like
- 28:26Speaker 1: they need to be explosive. So I think they have
- 28:28Speaker 1: a roll for you know. They said about Camp on
- 28:30Speaker 1: draft weekend that he was like Jordan Smith we talked
- 28:33Speaker 1: about earlier, a guy with the future in mind. Remember
- 28:36Speaker 1: when he was a Georgia Tech. They ran a w
- 28:38Speaker 1: a wing tear, you know, I mean they ran some
- 28:40Speaker 1: run intensive off one so a wish bone. Um. No,
- 28:44Speaker 1: he's a guy that you put on the practice squad
- 28:46Speaker 1: if he's not ready to go. And the other thing
- 28:48Speaker 1: and you touched on this is you can keep a
- 28:50Speaker 1: guy and just make him a special teams only guy, right,
- 28:53Speaker 1: just like you keep a long snapper, a kicker, and
- 28:54Speaker 1: a punter. You you got fifty three, you can keep
- 28:57Speaker 1: him if he's that valuable to you. And everybody always
- 29:00Speaker 1: focus on theftree and I get that because it's an
- 29:01Speaker 1: easy thing to talk about in the all season. Realisticly,
- 29:04Speaker 1: you put a guy in the practice squad, how often
- 29:06Speaker 1: during the course of the season do you see all
- 29:08Speaker 1: seven players at a position stay healthy. So usually when
- 29:12Speaker 1: you're talking about these things with a six round, seventh
- 29:14Speaker 1: round pick, they often start on the practice squad for
- 29:17Speaker 1: three weeks and then attrition leads you to be on
- 29:20Speaker 1: the field. So I usually think about a roster or
- 29:24Speaker 1: or a group of players as about sixty players rather
- 29:27Speaker 1: than fifty three. And even with the practice squad that
- 29:30Speaker 1: bumps it up to sixty five or so, because you
- 29:33Speaker 1: guys have seen it. The guys are on and off,
- 29:35Speaker 1: guys come in and out, and you're usually working with
- 29:37Speaker 1: about sixty five players as opposed fifty three. Yeah, you're
- 29:40Speaker 1: gonna see something totally different. And week four, all right,
- 29:42Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with Fred, what do you got
- 29:44Speaker 1: for us? I am delighted to see we have full
- 29:48Speaker 1: attendance for off season. But how does it work for
- 29:51Speaker 1: those who have yet to work out contract details? Is
- 29:54Speaker 1: there some sort of short term insurance policy to protect
- 29:57Speaker 1: them if injury occurs? John, Actually, there is. It's a
- 30:02Speaker 1: there's an understanding that if a if a draft pick
- 30:05Speaker 1: gets hurt, and this happened with Dante Fowler. We've seen
- 30:08Speaker 1: a numerous times that the team and the and the player,
- 30:14Speaker 1: they negotiate in good faith and the player is signed
- 30:19Speaker 1: to a contract that would have been uh commisserate or
- 30:24Speaker 1: whatever it is with their draft slot. So uh teams
- 30:29Speaker 1: don't go back on that, and they don't try to
- 30:32Speaker 1: negotiate it low because of the good faith. And if
- 30:35Speaker 1: you do it, then all of a sudden, any agent
- 30:37Speaker 1: doesn't want to do I mean, it's a bad thing,
- 30:40Speaker 1: and teams don't do it. It's a little different if
- 30:41Speaker 1: it's your first ground pick like Fowler was. I mean,
- 30:43Speaker 1: they guaranteed his contract, fully guaranteed his contract, every penny
- 30:47Speaker 1: of it. Um, you've got a guy like Jalen Camp
- 30:49Speaker 1: that gets hurt, they used they've got offsets that they
- 30:52Speaker 1: can use to move money around here and there, you know,
- 30:55Speaker 1: so that they're not on the hook. But for the
- 30:56Speaker 1: most part, they protect the players with these waivers, you know,
- 31:00Speaker 1: with these insurance policies that make sure that the player
- 31:03Speaker 1: doesn't lose future earnings by participating in The reason they
- 31:06Speaker 1: do is they wouldn't participate if they didn't, right they
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- 31:13Speaker 1: will come out and work. Otherwise they wouldn't have mini camps.
- 31:16Speaker 1: And the players should be a protective that you bet
- 31:17Speaker 1: they should. Sure, that's why you have a perfect attendance
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