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  It's thirty eight. All bills can win in here, Wake puts it down.
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  he scores a touchdown. It's wealthier to face tackle. What's good? Folks,
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  Welcome to another episode of Disguise Coverage, the only podcast in existence.
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  It gives you an equal amount of blueberries in each muffin and is presented by
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  the best pizza in Buffalo, New York. That is one PI Pizza.
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  It is Mary here on the show. It's a merry time of year.
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  It's a merry time of the week because today is drafts. Miss Eve Eve.
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  If you watch Friends, you know the reference. So all my folks,
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  family, friends, loved ones, enemies, frienemies, wizards, which
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  is muggles and mud bloods. I'm very happy to welcome you to this special
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  Drafts. Miss Eve Eve edition of Disguise Coverage. It is the final episode
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  in this series building the Buffalo Bills Draft Board, Part five, but it
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  is the finale four previous parts that were tremendous a variety of guests, including
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  a special edition last week with Dame Brugler of The Athletic, and I'm very
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  happy to bring this series home with the draft a couple of days away,
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  answer some final questions, put some final thoughts and scenarios together, and really
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  again tie this up, put a nice bow on it two days out from
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  the draft, and set us off into the sunset. And to do that
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  in this episode, I am joined by one of my favorite people, and
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  I know he loves when I say that, mister Bruce Nolan, welcome back
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  to the show. I also like having you here. I mean in general,
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  but you were on I don't remember when a couple months ago or a
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  month ago or something, and we went through draft priorities and priorities have shifted
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  now a little bit. That's one of the topics we'll be tackling tonight.
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  So I'm happy to have here bring things full circle for you and I with
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  the conversation we had the last time you were here. To bring this thing
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  full circle in this series and in general, just to add me here's welcome
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  to the show. Thanks for joining me, Anthony. I have a bone
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  to pick with you. Oh no, it brought me on after Dane Brugler,
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  really after Dane Brugler, the guy who nobody wants to follow up,
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  but put Bruce in that slot. It's fine. If this was baseball,
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  I'd be batting the five. Oh no, well, technically, technically I
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  was a special one off edition, So technically, Kendall, we did a
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  mock draft on Tuesday. But yet, I mean in this series, yeah,
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  you're following Dane. I'm sorry, but I'm grade six. Now I'm
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  in the sixth spot. It's even worse. You're bumping yourself. No,
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  you're too harsh. I just said you're one of my favorite people, and
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  you know I don't say that a lot. Dude. It is great to
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  be here. It is great to be here. It's great to be on
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  cover one. It's great to be talking draft. Let's let's do this thing.
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  What do you think I think we should do this thing real quick as
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  we get Let's let's get a high level thought before we dive into the meat
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  of it as we sit here two days out. What's the main thing that's
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  in your head regarding this Bills? Is something position related? Is it player
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  related? Is it philosophical in nature? As we sit again on drafts?
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  Miss Eve Eve, where's your head at right now? High level? When
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  it comes to the Buffalo Bills draft or this draft in general, first thing
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  that comes to your mind. You know, it's interesting. I would imagine
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  that you would expect me to say that it's philosophical, and it is.
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  It is philosophical. That's the thing that's on my mind. And here's the
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  thing that's on my mind right now. I can very easily see multiple different
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  futures on Thursday. You know, sometimes it's hard to imagine specific reality is
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  actually coming to pass. But I have a multiversal brain right now as it
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  relates to the NFL Draft and specifically the first round. If you told me
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  the Buffalo Bills were going to trade all the way up to twelve or eleven
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  to take a wide receiver, I'd go, yeah, I can see that
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  right. If you told me the Bills were gonna stand pat and it was
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  gonna be Troy Franklin or Xavi you'er worthy or Xavier log At at twenty.
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  I go, yeah, I can see that if you told me they were
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  gonna trade down completely out of the first round for the first time ever in
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  the Brandon Bean regime. They're gonna trade down in the first round because remember
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  McDermott was the one who did it the year of the trevious white pick.
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  So Bean's gonna trade down the first round for the first time ever, and
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  the first pick that they make isn't even a wide receiver. I can see
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  that too. In fact, it's actually what I predicted in my final predictive
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  mock draft if you told me that they were gonna trade down and then double
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  up on receiver, so you end up with Troy Franklin and Javon Baker,
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  or Troy Franklin and Lad McCaughey, who very well could be there in the
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  second round. I've heard some concerning things about his back, and so I
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  can very easily predict that any of these things would happen, and I could
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  feel very comfortable. So for me, it's very strange having this multiversal sort
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  of outlook on this where I have multiple realities going simultaneous and I'm hoping that
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  my brain can't jump between all of them at will, and that's kind of
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  where I'm at, and it's I don't know if you feel that way.
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  I don't know if anybody in the comments feels that way too, but that's
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  where I'm at right now. So it's super funny. I And for those
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  who don't know, every time I have a guest on the show, the
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  questions that I ask or the things we go through, I give anchor points
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  and an outline to kind of keep us on schedule. But I never know
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  my guest answer. They don't know mine. I like to keep things organic.
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  If we agree on everything cool, if we butt heads with everything cool.
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  I am in almost the exact similar mindset and state when it comes to
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  like my high level thoughts with this draft and one. It's just the multitude
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  of possibilities, the multi verse of possibilities for you there and which I find
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  really exciting, Like they could do so many things to your point, Like
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  I could see them trading up if Romo Dunes falls, I could see them
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  trading up and getting I don't know, Jared Verse falls, they trade up
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  and grab him. I could see them trading up a little bit into the
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  twenties. I could see them trading back. I could see him standing pat
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  and take taking BPA or one of like fifty wide receipt and then also tied
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  within too that or within that is a point you mentioned, and this is
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  a big one for me. There is very there are very few things that
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  Bills could do, especially in round one, that would like piss me off,
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  Like there's so many good possibilities based on what the roster looks like,
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  based on what their needs are, and based on how I think the board
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  is gonna fall, they would really have to go extremely sideways for me to
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  be like, what the hell is that? Like, there's so many fun
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  options aside from just the wide receiver train that I know a lot of people
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  are on. And I think that's what like where my head really is at,
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  Like I see a multitude of possibilities like you, and also within that,
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  a lot of them make me happy, Like not just as a Bills
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  fan, but just as like person who appreciates football and good roster building.
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  They have a lot of ways to do right things like there's a lot of
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  ways that Round one in this draft can go right for them, and not
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  a lot of ways where it's gonna go wrong again, especially in round one,
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  and I'm glad you're in a similar state of mind philosophically. Of course,
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  I knew that you would pick that option. I'm glad you did.
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  You know you're nothing if not reliable and consistent. And with that being said,
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  enough high level thoughts, Bruce, Should we jump right into it?
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  Should we get into the meat of the show? I think we should jump
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  right into it and get into meet of the show. Meat is a good
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  thing and we should all eat much much more of it unless our cholesterol is
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  bad. That's fair. I like to see. You're smart. I didn't
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  even think of the chrresterol oh seven minutes in and that. Yeah, it's
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  like saying Rouke or I'm not even gonna say his last name, Ruse.
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  I could never nail it. Horror, horror, that's just what I just
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  keep calling him Ruke. And it's so annoying too, because like his running
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  mate on the inside is just Tyler Davis, who has such a simple,
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  straightforward name. And then it's the come on man, it's just like so
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  deliciously ironic. But we will jump into it. So now for those playing
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  at home, actually I'll hide that first one Bruce and I have several specific
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  topics that we are going to dive into on this show for to be precise,
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  a couple of them, with some subsets and some and some sub points.
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  We're gonna go back and forth, have a nice organic discussion, final
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  questions, evaluation pieces, finalizing this Buffalo Bill's draft board. For those playing
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  at home joining us live, you know the drill. Every time we put
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  up one of the comments or one of the comments, one of the labels,
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  one of the banners, feel free to give your answers. Feel free
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  to tell us how our answers are terrible or fantastic, whatever have you.
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  If you are here live with us or watching later, please please please and
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  make you drop a leg on this video if you have not already done so.
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  Likes are the lifeblood of these streams and are extremely helpful to myself in
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  the entire brand. So if you have not already, please please please and
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  make you drop alike on this video. Oh actually no, I forgot.
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  Justin came in super early, well not super early, four minutes and gave
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  a super chat, which is awesome. Justin, you did the same thing
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  last week. You were crushing it with super chats and also great comments and
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  questions. So I appreciate the hell out of you for being here and being
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  here early and for your monetary donation. And Bruce Justin says, I'm team
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  trade down, but being isn't funny kind of like you mentioned, he says,
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  do you think we use our second next year, not Minnesota's to bridge
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  that gap between sixty and one twenty eight? Bean would pass out if he
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  had to wait for sixty seven players taken before being on the clock. I've
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  talked about this a bunch on the show already, And Bruce just to kind
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  of want to get your thoughts really quick here, because it's something to mentioned,
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  like they go from sixty and then their next pick right now isn't until
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  one twenty eight because the Krabby Patty Secret compick formula screwed the Bills out of
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  a third round pick and we still don't know why. That's a huge amount
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  of time. You mentioned it briefly. Are you a fan of the trade
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  down or do you think it has an opportunity to happen given the value that
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  there exists on day two? And to Justin's point, how big of a
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  gap there would be between the second and third pick for the Bills early in
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  round four. I am a fan of trading back from twenty eight because I
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  do think that the way this class is structured, based on the Buffalo Bills
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  needs, I think you can find similar qualities to players. Brandon Bean mentioned
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  himself he does not have twenty eight first round grades, and that's just so
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  you know, that's not a bluff. Nobody has twenty eight first round grades.
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  So I guess you're thinking, like, oh, well, he's bluffing.
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  He actually has thirty two. Nobody has thirty two first round grades,
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  like teams don't have thirty two first round grades every single year. In fact,
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  most of the time they have eighteen or sixteen or seventeen. Right,
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  So Brandy be sitting there hoping one of those people is gonna fall because the
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  quarterbacks are gonna push people down. Some people drafting for need are gonna push
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  people down, things like that. So I'm not gonna be upset if the
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  Buffalo Bills trade back and pick up a third I think one of the things
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  interesting to make sure that we draw a delineation here is the difference between draft
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  capital and draft picks. So when you say the Bills have a lot of
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  draft capital. That's not true, they actually don't. They have crappy draft
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  capital. They have a lot of draft picks. They have a ball at
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  the very end. They have a bunch of quantity and not a ton of
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  quality. Right, so, all right. I have mentioned before that Mitch
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  Hedburg is my favorite stand up communitian of all time. This has been a
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  conversation point I think and Mitch Hedburg. One of his famous lines is that
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  rice. He says, rice is good when you're hungry and you want a
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  million of something. The Buffalo Bills have plain white rice. They have a
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  lot of it, right, But that doesn't mean it's of high quality.
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  It's just plain white rice. Right, you gotta do something, you know.
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  It's like going to the gas station and get slim gyms two for you
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  know, two for fifty cents. Right, Yeah, okay, you got
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  multiples, but they're not high quality. So I think that the ability to
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  be able to get more picks where the value is based on need, which
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  for the Buffalo Bill is in a historically deep wide receiver class in a great
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  offensive line class, could be on day two if you want to try and
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  maximize and get as many top one hundred picks as you can. Then you
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  might want to move back and then try and move up. Do like a
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  do a compression style draft philosophy. You move back and then you move up
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  from there. But I'm not opposed to it. I will say, being
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  moving a second next year to get a third this year or a second this
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  year feels I don't think so. So we've seen the couple times where people
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  will actually move a future pick that is one round higher to get this.
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  Famously, the Carolina Panthers, who actually funny story, brand Bean referenced this
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  in one of his press conferences. Data said, we moved a future first
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  for Everett Brown. Now here's what happened in that pick. They didn't have
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  it. They didn't move up in that draft at all. They literally just
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  said, we will give you a future first for this pick right here in
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  the second round, and the other team was like, uh, yes,
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  please, and they took Everrett Brown with that pick. They just manufactured a
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  pick out of thin air by using a future first. Did not work out.
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  We've seen this happen where people will move a future third for a current
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  four or a future two for a current three. I don't think Brandon Bean
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  is gonna do that. So for me, the only time you'd use the
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  second next year is if you're moving up from twenty eight or from sixty to
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  get up to like thirty five for whatever it is, right, that's the
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  only time you probably do that. I don't think you use it to get
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  a third. I think you'd have to use that higher. I'm in a
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  similar boat. Like if they're using the second, I think the second next
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  year is really interesting and either using that and or feeling comfortable having two two's
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  next year and maybe using that first next year and packaging that to try and
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  move up for Romo Dunze or somebody who they really covet, you know,
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  in the teens low teens, or maybe at the end of the single digits
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  in round one. But overall, yeah, I'm in a similar boat.
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  I love like my favorite like mock scenarios are the ones where the bills where
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  the board falls the right way and the bills were able to move from twenty
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  eight to like thirty five and then also get a pick in the late eighties
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  or mid nineties, like I just really covet the prospects on day two.
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  So Round two and round three and so yeah, so I'm in a similar
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  boat. And that's a great question from Justin. He crushed it last week
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  with super chats and then awesome thoughts, so wanted to highlight that also just
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  for your edification and knowledge. My favorite Mitch Edburg line is him talking about
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  he was like looking at houses and it said like, oh, like this
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  outseaid four bedrooms and he was thinking and like, isn't that up to like
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  my discretion? And then he's like, hey, like, welcome to my
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  fifth bedroom. It looks a lot like a kitchen. We could do this
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  entire show with just Mitch Hedburg stuff. We really could. We really could
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  it. Oh man, that got me all right, all right, so
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  here's here's the plan for the rest of the show. We're gonna try and
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  inject like a Mitch Hedberg line every every just free, just every once in
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  a while for the rest of the show, just to keep each other on
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  the toes. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I already
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  got my next one in the whole str I just need to figure out when
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  to use it, all right. It was playing at home, Like I
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  said, if you like what we're saying, feel free to tell us in
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  the chat. If you hate it, feel free to tell us in the
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  chat. If you have thoughts of your own that's awesome too, feel free
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  to put him in the chat. Much like Justin's comment earlier, super chats
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  get priority one because I respect the monetary donation. Two. The color attracts
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  my eyes and pulls me away from my notes. I'm gonna start coughing again,
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  So Bruce, feel free to lead off. You are also the guests.
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  So our first topic here is the top three players you hope fall to
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  pick two eight. It could be any position, it could be in any
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  order. Bruce, feel free if you want to start with your third or
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  your first, however you want to go. The floor is yours and the
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  freedom is yours. Godspeed. Go ahead and start coughing. I will cover
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  you. Because this is disguise coverage. I won't even disguise it. Actually,
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  I'm just gonna go ahead and openly cover you. Speaking of which,
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  if you and I were the Jordan player and Micah Hyde of the Buffalo Bill's
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  content creation, we gotta pick new tag team. That's a that's a good
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  call. We missed out on that opportunity. So we'll think about that as
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  I talk about the top three players. I'm gonna pick one from every position
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  that I believe the Buffalo Bills with theoretically tick number one. I think Brian
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  Thomas falling is a lot more opportunity now than it used to be because I
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  think he's dealing with the torn labor and I think that there are gonna be
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  teams who go. I don't really know, so I still think Brian Thomas
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  is gone. But when I say hope, it means I hope the medicals
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  push him because I think that would make the They would make it a little
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  bit easier if he's there at twenty eight. I think that that makes the
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  conversation a little bit easier. I don't think he will be, but this
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  is a hope fall and I do have a reasonable reason why he would,
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  which is an injury in exactly that same vein lay two. Latu has the
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  type of skill set that does not get out of the top ten. The
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  only reason he's there is because people are scared about the neck, and they
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  should be. They should be scared about the neck. He had to mendically.
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  He was forced to medically retire at one point. It's one of those
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  things where Bean swing for the fences unless it's taking Late two lot to a
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  twenty eight, which case, now we don't want to swing for the fences.
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  So I have Brian Thomas Junior and Late two Latu for the exact same
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  reason, except obviously Late two lat Two's injury is a lot more serious than
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  Brian Thomas's. But both of those are opportunities for those players to fall because
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  of medical People like Lay two Latu don't show up at twenty eight. Yeah,
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  just the only reason you get someone like Theari's because of a massive red
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  flag, and in this case it's the neck. The third one is Jackson
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  Powers Johnson, which Sophia pointed out, good time. Jackson Powers Johnson has
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  started to slide a little bit to the point where now people are wondering if
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  maybe Fraser goes ahead of him. I do think Fraser is probably a more
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  Billsy prospect farmer wrestler, and he was great at it. But Jackson Powers
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  Johnson I think is the best interior offensive lineman in the class. I have
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  him over Graham Barton, which a lot of people don't. So I just
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  wanted to throw that out there, and so for me, if he's there
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  at twenty eight, I'm I'm interested. Those are the three positions that I
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  think that could reasonably you could. You could draw yourself an argument. You
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  could draw yourself. You can tell yourself a story that they got to twenty
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  eight for a reason, and players like that don't typically make it to twenty
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  eight. So you just kind of you pull a Ravens. You just nod
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  and say thank you for this thing falling to me, and I will take
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  it. Because the Baltimore Ravens have made an entire like entire year twenty year
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  period about just having good players who fall for one particular reason. Usually it's
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  injury related or something like that, and they just go, yeah, I'll
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  scoop them up fifteen eighteen sixty picks later than they probably should have gone,
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  and I'll just sit on him for a while. You know. They did
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  it with the the offensive lineman from usc whose name is escaping me. Last
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  year they picked up Andrew Vorheas. I loved Andrew Vorhees. There's a big
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  Vorheast guy. They just picked him up and said, yeah, we'll sit
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  on him for a year, and they did. And now they have shockingly
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  they needed and I'll have offensive line. They have a guy they can just
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  plug right in it. They lost John Simpson and I was like, oh,
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  what do we do? Well, we've just been sitting on Andrew Borhees
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  and his leg is all good now, so we're okay, right, So
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  if we want to do that, I am I'm down with it. So
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  those are the three players that I quote unquote am hoping fall to the Buffalo
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  Bills because I can see a path. I can tell myself a story as
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  to why they would have gotten interesting. I like your reasoning, and the
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  reasoning is important and for me, I so I don't have a receiver in
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  this group. In my top three players, I hope fall to twenty eight.
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  And that's related to our second point that we're gonna go through. So
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  I don't want to put any spoilers out there. I do have a lot
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  too as one, and that's just again to your point, like I don't
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  I'm hoping he falls because I think he has the most realistic chance of like
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  the top three edges to fall. I don't think Dallas Turner is gonna fall
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  anywhere past the mid teens, maybe late teens. Same thing, with verse
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  if somebody values them differently. But like I think, if you like,
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  if you want to get turner or verse, whichever one goes after the other,
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  you're looking in like the mid teens or like the late teens. I
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  just don't see that happening, like I think realistically, like just sitting there
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  hoping someone falls to you at twenty eight. You don't have to trade up,
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  you don't have to do anything. A lot two is in that spot,
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  and you know, I echo a lot of your similar sentiments, so
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  I'm not going to bang that drum too much. But just what he does
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  as a pass rusher, and he's got a good motor. I don't love
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  the way he plays the run at all times, but he is a high
• 21:04
  effort player and I trust that with what I've seen in flashines, he can
• 21:08
  get better in that regard. But the length, the hand, usage,
• 21:11
  the moves as a pass rusher would be an immediate impact and welcome addition.
• 21:15
  Two way Bill's position grouping that still has some scary questions At edge aj Panessa
• 21:22
  is a edge kind of edge three? Is he able to kind of jump
• 21:26
  up and be an edge two? Is von Miller able to be an edge
• 21:30
  two. I don't think he's going to be an edge one or is he
• 21:32
  a three? Then you're sitting down casey two Hill and Kingsley Jonathan. You
• 21:37
  have a lot of questions at that edge spot. So I think a lot
• 21:38
  too falling. It's a premier player in this class, at a premier position.
• 21:44
  That one is right up there for me as well. Also up there
• 21:48
  Johnny Newton from Illinois, and I wanted to tie that to Nicky asking Byron
• 21:52
  Murphy question mark. I would love to say Byron Murphy, who I have
• 21:56
  ranked ahead of Johnny Newton. I just don't think Byron Murcie falls as soon
• 22:00
  as I mean, the tape is tremendous. He's one of my favorite players
• 22:03
  in this class. But for me, it was really once the Senior Bowl
• 22:07
  started and the night before Senior Bowl practice has started, so that Monday night,
• 22:11
  once he pulled out of the draft or out of the draft, out
• 22:15
  of Senior Bowl practices, I knew. I was like, he's going to
• 22:18
  be cemented in that top twenty eight. I feel like his agent was like,
• 22:21
  you don't need to do this, everything's fine, We're pulling you.
• 22:22
  Similar to Graham Barton and Barton has risen up the ranks off from his tape
• 22:26
  and what he's been able to do, and so I think Murphy is in
• 22:30
  a similar category in terms of like guys I just don't expect the fall I
• 22:33
  would love like Byron Murphy is probably the top top but he's at the far
• 22:37
  end of the spectrum of like not really realistic, but I really really really
• 22:41
  hope. So I didn't include him here cause I don't think he's going to
• 22:42
  fall to twenty eight. But I do think Johnny Newton has the opportunity to
• 22:45
  And I know this isn't necessarily the most dire need with the Bills resigning Daikwon
• 22:52
  Jones and then signing Austin Johnson, so you have a decent top three right
• 22:56
  now in the interior, but you do need a backup three tech to add
• 22:59
  out. And I just think Newton is a game wrecker on the interior,
• 23:02
  and his ability as a pass rusher means that on passing downs and known passing
• 23:06
  situations, you have the opportunity to have Ed Oliver and Johnny Newton both on
• 23:11
  the interior on those downs, giving Daikwon Jones arrest allowing him to play more
• 23:15
  on early downs and potentially keeping him fresh as the season goes on so he
• 23:18
  can be a true three down game wrecker. And then you have this top
• 23:22
  three strong rotation of Jones, Newton, Ed Oliver and then Austin Johnson is
• 23:26
  your backup one tech and your fourth rotational piece who That's a really tremendous top
• 23:30
  four. And I know a lot of people are on the train of got
• 23:34
  to be Patrick Mahomes, and the way people want it done is score fifty
• 23:37
  points. So offense, offense, offense, But the name of the game
• 23:41
  is still stopping Patrick Mahomes. And if you can generate pass rush on the
• 23:42
  interior, Newton is also no slouch against the run. I'm putting Newton up
• 23:47
  there. He is probably he's oh. I have him behind a lot too,
• 23:52
  just because I think edge is a bigger need than defensive tackle. But
• 23:55
  I love Johnny Newton. He's arguably one of my favorite players in this class.
• 23:57
  Arguably my favorite, but definitely one of my favorites. And then I
• 24:00
  also have an offensive lineman I like JPJ a lot. I have Barton ahead
• 24:07
  of him. But the reason I'm saying Barton for this answer instead of JPJ
• 24:12
  is I do think, because again it's the top three players you hope fall
• 24:17
  to twenty eight. I think JPJ is gonna be there at twenty eight.
• 24:21
  So if I'm hoping, I feel like I have to hope more that Barton
• 24:23
  is there. But I do think there's a chance that JPJ could be there,
• 24:26
  and I think he's in that conversation of best player available. I like
• 24:30
  him and Barton. I flip flopped like seventy times in terms of ranking which
• 24:34
  one is my top interior offensive lineman. And for those who don't know,
• 24:38
  because I know Graham Barton's listed as a tackle. He is projected to the
• 24:41
  interior because of his frame, his arm length, and he also played center
• 24:45
  early in his career at Duke before he moved to the outside. I just
• 24:48
  like how he roots and how he just keeps his feet anchored to the ground
• 24:51
  like at all times, and then like his his tenacity, the athleticism,
• 24:55
  the movement, the hands, the feet. But JPJ is awesome as well.
• 24:59
  I'll I just think there's a more realistic shot of JPJ being there and
• 25:03
  not needing hope to like hope that he'll fall to twenty eight. I think
• 25:07
  there's a good chance that he will be there. I think for Barton you
• 25:11
  have to hope more just because of how I think the board's gonna fall in
• 25:14
  that top twenty seven. Yes, So for me, it's a lot too
• 25:17
  Newton and then Graham Barton. I don't think Byron Murphy makes it out of
• 25:21
  the top fourteen. Man he is he I mean, who who's the first
• 25:26
  defensive player that's gonna go if Atlanta goes edge, Yeah, it could be
• 25:33
  it could. I feel like it's between him and Dallas Turner maybe versu if
• 25:36
  somebody likes Chicago, the Eagles could probably trade up, because you know they
• 25:41
  do. Yeah. So I mean if he was gone at twelve, would
• 25:47
  anybody blink an eye? No? Like, he's just the tape is so
• 25:49
  strong. And I also think he has more one tech in him than Newton
• 25:56
  does. Like I think there's more positional versatility and overall just more juice.
• 26:00
  Plus the frame, Like I love Newton, but I think the short arms
• 26:03
  and the stockiness and how he's kind of built might turn some teams away a
• 26:07
  little bit or devalue him a bit. When you look at Byron Murphy,
• 26:10
  like, not only is the tape strong and the metrics and everything, but
• 26:12
  you just like the advanced metrics and his pressure rates and what he does against
• 26:17
  the run, but you just watch it like you look at him and how
• 26:18
  he's built, like he just looks like a Like if you didn't know him
• 26:23
  or watch football or watch any of his tape and you just saw him all
• 26:27
  padded up on the field, you would just be like, that guy's good
• 26:30
  at football. I have heard similar things to the Ralph Wilson in the comment
• 26:36
  section that Newton could fall. I had actually had him falling out of the
• 26:40
  first round, so this is also weak, but this is also one of
• 26:41
  the reasons why I love him. Yeah, he played with a broken foot
• 26:45
  for the majority of twenty twenty three. He played well, played like a
• 26:48
  monster with a broken foot. The first game, like Kurt Angle wrestling fans
• 26:52
  out there, broken freaking neck, broken freaking foot for Johnny Newton here and
• 26:56
  it the first game I watched. No, I'm sorry. The second game
• 26:59
  I watch was that game against Wisconsin, and he just destroys everything in his
• 27:03
  path and he's playing on a broken foot. Based on the timeline, he's
• 27:07
  playing on a broken foot in that game, and he's just beating everybody on
• 27:11
  the interior he is destroying the quarterback like it's and so I wonder, yeah,
• 27:17
  does that foot kind of play in a little bit similar to the Brian
• 27:19
  Thomas junior laborum, similar but different to Latsu's neck. Like there's all this
• 27:23
  is where all these little minute details and nuanced pieces come in that affect guys
• 27:30
  that could potentially fall. And also to your point, I could see Newton
• 27:33
  falling into the earlier mid second, which is part of the reason why I
• 27:37
  like the idea of in a perfect world, like you trade out at twenty
• 27:41
  eight and you get a pick in the load of mid thirties, and then
• 27:44
  you get Newton, and now you have a third and you can look at
• 27:45
  all these other wide receiver options. But well, don't don't put that in
• 27:49
  your mock draft. People will get mad at you. Oh no, I've
• 27:52
  had so many people who are so UPSETSI so upset. All right, ummm,
• 27:59
  anything on this topic before we move onto our next No, I'm good
• 28:02
  man, beautiful, all right. Just one more thing, actually, just
• 28:03
  one more thing, yep. I was at the mall the other day.
• 28:07
  I knew it, and I saw a sign on this escalator that said escalator
• 28:12
  temporarily out of order, and I thought to myself, well that's a little
• 28:17
  weird. It should say escalator, not temporarily out of order, escalator temporarily
• 28:22
  stairs, sorry for your convenience. I forgot what we ivet we would do
• 28:29
  with the hepburg. The one I was gonna go with was like, is
• 28:36
  a hippopotamist a hippopotamus or just a really cool stupid I don't have a girlfriend,
• 28:45
  but I do have a girl who can be really upset if she heard
• 28:48
  me say that. Okay, all right, we'll just completely off the rails.
• 28:52
  I hope everyone's having a water vulta. The one I was really gonna
• 28:55
  go to was the you ever imagined how clean the inside of a Windex bottle
• 28:57
  is? But I didn't know how to work it in any part of a
• 29:00
  conversation. Okay, next stop, next stopping. So this next topic is
• 29:11
  I shorthand labeled it on the banner here, but outside of the Big three,
• 29:15
  so outside of Marvin Harrison Junior, outside of Elague Neighbors, outside of
• 29:19
  rome O Doonza, Which if any wide receiver or wide receivers would you trade
• 29:26
  up for in round one? So I shorthand labeled it here. Of wide
• 29:30
  receivers worth trading up for in round one outside of the Big three? Do
• 29:34
  you have one, Bruce? And it could be anywhere, like I said
• 29:37
  in our notes, and for those playing at home, it could be anything.
• 29:38
  It could mean you're trading up into the teams. You're trading up to
• 29:42
  pick twenty five or pick twenty six, like a Kyrie Lamer Dalton kin k
• 29:45
  type of scenario. We're just moving up a couple of picks. So for
• 29:48
  Bruce, you is for you, Bruce, I'm falling apart. Are there
• 29:52
  any wide receivers for you worth trading up for in round one outside of the
• 29:56
  Big three? There are no receivers that I I would be excited about trading
• 30:02
  up in the first crowd aside from the Big three. However, I can
• 30:03
  be talked into Mitchell or Brian Thomas if it is the first and a fourth.
• 30:14
  If you are moving up a two or three spots to get your guy,
• 30:19
  Brian Thomas or Adie Mitchell. I don't I don't have a super high
• 30:25
  opinion of Adie Mitchell. But the ceiling is there for a reason, right,
• 30:29
  There's a reason why I had him going high in my predictive mock draft.
• 30:33
  It's because you look at that ceiling and you know it's there. You
• 30:37
  see some really, really really good tape for Adie Mitchell, and I think
• 30:44
  that you have to look at the entire body of work for him. You
• 30:48
  have to go back to Georgia and have a conversation about the Georgia tape too,
• 30:52
  because some of the stuff he flashed at Georgia, he just didn't flash
• 30:56
  quite as much of Win Texas. And he's from an analytical profile standpoint,
• 31:02
  it's not good like it's a really it's a really bad production profile. Yeah,
• 31:06
  for Adie Mitchell, it doesn't The probabilities don't speak highly that in his
• 31:10
  favor. But you can talk me into it based on a trade spased evaluation
• 31:15
  if it is a first and a fourth and you're moving up a couple spots.
• 31:19
  Aside from that, I have no interest in moving up to like fifteen
• 31:25
  or eighteen. For Brian Thomas. I don't think the gap is that high.
• 31:30
  So I don't think Brian Thomas is like leaps and bounds as a prospect
• 31:37
  above the tier two Tier three guys, And so for me, I don't
• 31:41
  get excited about it. Anybody who's not a top three, but I can
• 31:45
  be talked into it if the cost is reasonable. So I have a similar
• 31:52
  thought, and I'm gonna piggyback one of your points, but real quick for
• 31:56
  the big three potentially, right, Dunsay, is there at nine or I
• 32:00
  don't know, ten, eleven, twelve, something like that. What would
• 32:04
  you be comfortable with trading? Because you put out a really good tweet end
• 32:07
  of last week or over the weekend, or answered somebody's tweet or something about
• 32:12
  like what you like you wouldn't give? I forgot what the tweet was,
• 32:15
  but it like, what would you what you would give up to go and
• 32:19
  get I think somebody posted like something some trade that they had made in a
• 32:22
  mock to go up and get Roman Dunesay, and you answered it with like,
• 32:25
  there's no receiver I would trade. I think it was like two first
• 32:28
  and two twos for like any wide receiver. They're okay, cool. So
• 32:30
  I was in that neighborhood, all Rightyeah, what would you give up to
• 32:34
  move up to get? If neighbors falls or oh doonesay falls? Is there
• 32:38
  a package? I mean I'm assuming there is, but what would you be
• 32:40
  comfortable giving up to acquire one of those big three. Yeah, if a
• 32:45
  Dunze was there at twelve and you gave up, you know, twenty eight,
• 32:49
  one, twenty eight and next year's first one four one would probably get
• 32:53
  you there. And that's probably the maximum I go and three and he would
• 33:00
  probably have to be at twelve for that to work because you if you're at
• 33:02
  nine, you probably wouldn't take that. So Nikki g just brought it up
• 33:07
  in the comment section twenty eight one to twenty eight in the first next year,
• 33:09
  that's probably as much as I'm willing to do. And the reason is
• 33:16
  as much as I'm willing to do is because it doesn't expose massively your ability
• 33:21
  to recover, because you have two tuoes next year and one of them could
• 33:24
  be high. So for me, when I look at this and I think
• 33:29
  to myself, okay, everything has to be within reason, and you say,
• 33:32
  okay. One of the things we don't talk about a lot is expenditures,
• 33:36
  and we don't think about that. You're expending a first round pick to
• 33:39
  get this player back. So if you trade up and you get Kyrie Elam,
• 33:46
  you expend a one and a four to get Kyri Elam. If you
• 33:50
  would have stayed put, you would have expended a one to get Kyrie Elum.
• 33:53
  So your hope is that that player becomes more valuable than a one.
• 34:00
  That's that's a surplus value, that's what you're going for. So one of
• 34:02
  the discussions that we had a lot last year after Dalton kin Kid got picked
• 34:07
  is what type of workload, what type of production do you have to get
• 34:13
  from a tight end for him to be worth expending a one and a four.
• 34:19
  And it's the exact same conversation about trading up for Roma Dunze is,
• 34:24
  well, this guy traded this person you're talking about, he traded this year's
• 34:28
  one, moved up, then he traded next year's one, this year's two,
• 34:31
  and next year's two. And what I said was no, no player
• 34:37
  in the NFL who's not a quarterback. Would I trade two ones and two
• 34:39
  twos four. That's a lot none, that's a last thing. That's a
• 34:44
  lot of premium capital. I wouldn't do two ones and two twos for Justin
• 34:46
  Jefferson because you'd have to also paid him, you know, thirty three million
• 34:51
  dollars a year, right, So that's the reason why I wouldn't do that.
• 34:55
  So would you know what Roma Dunze would have to become for it to
• 35:00
  be worth two ones and two twos, like crazy, It's absurd because I
• 35:08
  just said justin Jefferson's not so you have to be better than the best receiver
• 35:13
  in football. Okay, sure, if you want to take listen, if
• 35:15
  you want to go down that road and say, Roma Donzai, we be
• 35:19
  better than the best receiver in football, maybe one of the best you know
• 35:23
  players in football period, right, So you're putting a lot of eggs into
• 35:30
  that basket. And it's part of the reason why I don't I don't love
• 35:35
  trading up in general, just especially I feel like this this draft cycle,
• 35:39
  or this draft class, this wide receiver grouping has been so hyped up,
• 35:44
  and understandably, especially on Day one and Day two, but I feel like
• 35:47
  a lot of people are talking about the wide receivers in this class with a
• 35:52
  lot of absolutes and a lot of concrete thoughts, and the draft and prospects
• 35:58
  and evaluation is anything but concrete. There is no guarantee to any player,
• 36:02
  no matter how sure they look, or how much of a blue chip or
• 36:06
  purple chip player they are. There's no guarantees to anything so sacrificing a ton
• 36:09
  of capital to put your eggs into a basket that isn't necessarily going to stay
• 36:15
  sturdy the entire time is something that worries me a little bit just in general.
• 36:19
  Like one of my philosophies is, you know, I prefer more swings
• 36:22
  at the plate or more bites at the apple throws at the dartboard, whatever
• 36:24
  verbiage you want to use for the draft. But I am on board for
• 36:28
  that type of move up for Odunze if it's if it's one twenty eight and
• 36:32
  then our first this year and first next year, or if it's one of
• 36:37
  the twos or something like that, Like, I am okay with that just
• 36:38
  because of the player in caliber of guy that I think he is and the
• 36:42
  impact that he would make and the fit that he has. But aside from
• 36:46
  that, I'm in a really similar boat in terms of like the wide receivers
• 36:50
  outside of the Big three that are worth trading up for, none of them
• 36:52
  are for me. And that's because one of the points that you had wide
• 36:58
  receiver like or through wear in my notes, like wide receiver like four,
• 37:05
  through like ten and eleven, even the difference is so negligible to me,
• 37:09
  and I think one of them is going to be there at twenty eight,
• 37:13
  so I don't want to trade up. Like if Brian Thomas Junior falls cool,
• 37:16
  I'm okay with that. And this ties into kind of what I mentioned
• 37:20
  earlier of like there's so many picks and ways that Round one could go in
• 37:23
  this draft in general, that wouldn't make me upset if they took Brian Thomas
• 37:27
  cool, if they took Adie Mitchell cool, if they took lad McConkie cool,
• 37:30
  if they took exaber Worthy cool. I don't love Keank Coleman, but
• 37:34
  I wouldn't hate Keank Coleman being the guy there if they take exaberl to get
• 37:37
  cool. Like, there's so many guys that I think they could take that
• 37:40
  fill that need and help out in round one. They don't necessarily want to
• 37:46
  trade up. And Mitchell is one who continues to come through. I've seen
• 37:50
  a lot of comments coming in regarding him. What I think is tough with
• 37:53
  ad Mitchell and it I actually I don't think i've said on the show before.
• 38:00
  When you watch the tape and everybody knows this at this point, like
• 38:01
  the flashes that he shows are league like he shows true wide receiver one flashes
• 38:06
  that are tremendous, and then he has times where he looks like he doesn't
• 38:09
  care, or he's running very lazily and not putting a lot of effort in.
• 38:13
  And what I think is difficult in watching the tape and judging him off
• 38:16
  of that is it's hard to infer the reasoning behind those poorer reps without being
• 38:23
  in the huddle, without being on the team. We don't know what he's
• 38:25
  being coached to do, what the expectation is, what's allowed, and even
• 38:30
  to play devil's advocate for some of it, right, the routes that he
• 38:32
  runs that are like lazy routes where he runs them at like thirty and forty
• 38:37
  percent. He does that right, and it looks terrible, and then he
• 38:40
  does it again and almost lulls the corner to sleep with it, and then
• 38:44
  puts his foot in the ground and explodes out of it and increates like five
• 38:46
  to six yards of separation because the corner thought another lazy route was going to
• 38:50
  come along. So to play Devil's advocate, maybe he is using he is
• 38:55
  using that and trying to manipulate, you know, corners because he talked about
• 38:59
  it at the combine, where you know he doesn't run all of his routes
• 39:02
  at one hundred percent. He does it to try and manipulate corners. Now,
• 39:06
  maybe that is what he's doing, Maybe it's not. Maybe it's a
• 39:07
  little ill advised, And that's not necessarily going to work in the NFL because
• 39:12
  it's such a timing based offense and league and your quarterback and your route distribution
• 39:16
  and concept you need to be in this spot at this time, at this
• 39:20
  moment, and your route is dependent or what you do even if you're not
• 39:23
  getting the ball helps other guys, YadA YadA. But a lot of the
• 39:27
  laziness that I've seen for Mitchell, you see that in Brian Thomas junior.
• 39:32
  You see it in Marvin Harrison junior. You see it in Xavier Worthy.
• 39:36
  You see it on a lot of dudes, especially if they're on the backside
• 39:37
  of these concepts and they know they're not getting the ball, they're not going
• 39:40
  one hundred percent, they don't even necessarily look like they're going fifty. And
• 39:45
  I feel like it's getting blown up so much when it comes to Mitchell,
• 39:49
  and rightfully so. And if there is fire to this smoke. I think
• 39:52
  will know based on how far he falls in the first round, because that
• 39:57
  interview process is going to be so important for him because co and teams and
• 40:00
  gms are gonna be able to sit down with him in the interview process and
• 40:04
  decide right there and also kind of figure out if there is fire to that
• 40:08
  smoke in terms of Okay, is he running these lazier routes or these poorer
• 40:13
  reps because he doesn't care, or is it because he's trying to manipulate defenders
• 40:17
  or he's trying to set them up later like is there a good reasoning or
• 40:22
  process behind the end result? And maybe it's a little ill advised and they
• 40:24
  have to tweak it because I just I don't think he's lazy all the time.
• 40:29
  And even one of the comments John saying Ady Mitchell wasn't blocking for Xavier.
• 40:32
  There's there's times where he's one of the best blocking receivers on tape.
• 40:37
  Go to the Big Twelve game against Oklahoma State. They run a fourth and
• 40:39
  one and he's the front side blocker and he drives the corner like fifteen yards
• 40:43
  down field. He does that a couple times throughout like games that you watch
• 40:46
  and then there's times, yeah, where he looks like he could care less
• 40:51
  if he's trying to block. I think he's a bit of an enigma,
• 40:53
  but the flashes are so strong, and again I wouldn't hate if the Bills
• 40:58
  took him at twenty eight. Are there red flag? Sure, but there's
• 41:00
  so many receivers that I think that will be available at twenty eight that are
• 41:05
  in that tier after the Big three, whether it's Tier two or Tier three
• 41:09
  or even Tier four. But I think the difference between all those tiers is
• 41:13
  negligible enough that kind of like why bother trading up for one when the value
• 41:17
  is still good. That's also why I hope that a bunch of these guys
• 41:21
  fall and they can trade back to the mid thirties and kind of pick their
• 41:24
  poison because there's so many receivers and or players in general on their board that
• 41:28
  are still available. We do this thing where we only acknowledge the flaws of
• 41:32
  receivers we don't like, and we don't acknowledge the flaws of receivers we do
• 41:37
  like. So for the people who are huge Xavier Lagette fans, turn on
• 41:39
  the Tennessee tape for me. Okay, turn on the Tennessee tape and just
• 41:44
  watch him get eaten alive by the Tennessee Press and just go, okay,
• 41:50
  awesome, all the things that you thought you didn't want to take Xavier Worthy
• 41:54
  for right. You want a true x You need somebody who can go get
• 41:59
  you a bucket on the outside, can line up on the line of scrimmage,
• 42:00
  beat press, get down the field. Great, awesome. You say
• 42:06
  that Xavier Worthy can't do it, but then you say Xavier Legette canon,
• 42:09
  But we have evidence that Lagett can really get erased by that kind of thing.
• 42:15
  So now you have another player that you have to kind of build around,
• 42:20
  you have to hide on your offense. He's just bigger, like we
• 42:25
  just assume because he's bigger he can get off press. Like. This is
• 42:28
  not how it works, right. And that's why the DK Metcalf stuff really
• 42:31
  bothers me because DK Metcalf I was not super high on for medical reasons.
• 42:37
  Right foot and neck coming out, I was like, whoa boy? Okay,
• 42:42
  foot and neck. I was like yeah, no, no no.
• 42:44
  But DK Metcalf's release package coming out was elite, and you saw, Okay,
• 42:50
  he's explosive down the field, he can get out of breaking that.
• 42:52
  You can just line him up there. He can just go get you a
• 42:54
  bucket right at the If he never gets any better than that, you can
• 43:00
  line them up on the outside. He can win vertical routes and go get
• 43:02
  you a bucket against press. And we don't acknowledge those things in the players
• 43:09
  we like. We just only acknowledge those exact same flaws. Mind you,
• 43:15
  in the players we don't like. So we say, well, Zavi you're
• 43:17
  worthy. I don't want Zavie're worthy. You know, he's too small,
• 43:20
  you can't get off press. You know, you'd really have to kind of
• 43:22
  build an offense around him. But I do want Xavier Legette, who you'd
• 43:27
  have to do the same thing for right now. He's a different player,
• 43:30
  but the weakness is the same. He's six and twenty pounds. He can
• 43:34
  get off press. Yeah again, turn on Tennessee Like it's just so for
• 43:39
  me. This is the scenario where it's okay like that, it's okay to
• 43:44
  like a player and then also acknowledge that flaw. Yes, that's fine,
• 43:49
  like those two. It's not either I like this guy and he's perfect,
• 43:52
  or I don't like these guys and they're terrible, Like, that's not how
• 43:53
  this works. That's not how any of this works. So mind you.
• 43:59
  I'm I like Savior the get right, Yeah, I like him, now
• 44:02
  I have I have some concerns about him, but I like him, and
• 44:07
  I have some concerns. Applies to basically everybody. And that's what I think
• 44:14
  is driving me so nuts about so much of like the conversation about wide receivers.
• 44:19
  Like I remember talking to somebody the senior boll who loved Troy Franklin and
• 44:22
  was like, and like Exavier get did something. He was like, man,
• 44:27
  I'm out on the get. And I was like, oh, why
• 44:28
  are you out on the get? And he's like he just doesn't have a
• 44:31
  complete route tree. And I was like, don't you love Troy Franklin and
• 44:36
  he was like yeah. And I was like, you don't think there's any
• 44:38
  like hypocrisy in your evaluation? And he's like what do you mean? And
• 44:42
  I was like, all right, never mind, good talking with you,
• 44:44
  like I'm out just yet, Yeah, exactly, good chat. Thanks,
• 44:46
  nice to meet you. Like there's just so much and the lazy thing.
• 44:51
  Again, I do think it's a different caliber class from Mitchell, but it
• 44:55
  happens with Mark again, like I said, like all the guys that happens
• 44:58
  for, and it's happening a lot acrossege football. Myself and Russell Brown talked
• 45:00
  about it going in to the combine, like it's something you just see more
• 45:06
  nowadays, Like guys aren't going one hundred miles an hour one hundred percent of
• 45:08
  the time, and if we're gonna drag one guy for it, I think
• 45:13
  we should drag everybody accordingly or just again, like some of the conversations about
• 45:17
  what guys can do and what they can't do. And I don't know if
• 45:22
  it's highlight watching or just listening to necessarily like wrong information, but I feel
• 45:25
  like the tape doesn't lie, and there's just so many assumptions about so many
• 45:30
  of these wide receivers. And again too, like your point, like pointing
• 45:35
  out negatives doesn't necessarily mean you hate a guy, like I've said for so
• 45:37
  much like oh, Brian Thomas Junior, Like I don't think he has a
• 45:39
  complete routtree. Now I think some of it, like I always say,
• 45:43
  like absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Maybe he can run a
• 45:46
  full routree. Maybe he just wasn't asked to do that at LSU because they
• 45:50
  were just like, yo, just go be big and fast and outrun everybody,
• 45:52
  and we're gonna throw your slot fades and drags and that's all you need
• 45:55
  to do. But he doesn't have that like that tree. But then people
• 46:00
  on the other side will talk and be like, oh, so you hate
• 46:04
  Brian Thomas Like No, I like Brian Thomas like. But you have to
• 46:07
  be honest with the analysis of what the pros and cons are. And that's
• 46:10
  also a part of that package for me. With everybody after the Big three,
• 46:15
  in those next tiers of like wide receiver four through eleven, even twelve,
• 46:19
  you can make a case four or against all of them in a variety
• 46:22
  of ways. And depending on what kind of receiver you're looking for or what
• 46:25
  need you're trying to fill, those pros and cons are going to be weigh
• 46:30
  differently in your mind and weigh differently for your roster. And I just think
• 46:35
  it's a conversation that's not being had enough. It's just kind of blindly looking
• 46:38
  at the positives for guys and being like, oh, this is the done
• 46:42
  deal. Look at this guy, he's awesome, And it's just it that
• 46:45
  the honest or next level contextual conversation I feel like isn't happening with receivers.
• 46:51
  And I feel like it's worse this year at that position grouping than I really
• 46:54
  have ever seen in like a long time. We love Legete because he's met
• 47:00
  Calf, but the guy who's actually more Metcalf, which is Brian Thomas,
• 47:02
  then we don't like him because he does all the flaws that now Metcalf had.
• 47:07
  It's just I don't I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I feel
• 47:09
  like that nice. It's just or even some of the metrics like people recently
• 47:14
  been pointing out to me because I like Davon Baker, and people have been
• 47:15
  pointing out like his drop rate. They'll man, his drop rate sucks,
• 47:20
  like we can't have him. And it's funny how people like point out.
• 47:23
  And I know this is more of an easier accessible metric than what I'm about
• 47:27
  to say, But nobody talks about how good he was in yards per route
• 47:30
  run or EPA per target, or like talks about the film and these catches,
• 47:34
  or talks about the type of drops that he had, like and I
• 47:36
  think it goes back to your initial point with all this conversation is and kind
• 47:39
  of go into that confirmation bias, like you seek out what you kind of
• 47:45
  what your preconceived notions already are, and so if you're not high on Baker,
• 47:49
  you seek out something that shows you that he's not. If you think
• 47:51
  Xavier Lagette is awesome, you're just gonna go watch that clip against Mississippi State
• 47:54
  where he takes a five yard drag route seventy yards to the house and hits
• 47:58
  twenty three miles per hour, and you're gonna be like done. I love
• 48:00
  him. He's the greatest receiver ever, and I think it's really morphing and
• 48:06
  warping the receiver conversation and creating separation in those tiers after the first tier that
• 48:13
  I don't really think exists again, which is part of the reason why I'm
• 48:16
  cool just sitting there at twenty eight, because I'll take a handful of these
• 48:20
  guys, because I think the differences are negligible. Granted, their sizes and
• 48:23
  frames and skill sets and traits may be different, but I just think what
• 48:29
  they can be and floors relatives to ceilings, it's just such a negligible conversation.
• 48:34
  And that's why, like why not why trade up for one if you
• 48:37
  really think Brian Thomas is gonna be the guy cool? I get it because
• 48:39
  he ticks all these boxes of what a prototypical X could and should be.
• 48:44
  But I mean, I don't know. I like ad Mitchell just as much,
• 48:46
  if not a little bit more at times. But then he's got these
• 48:49
  other red flags and it's kind of scary but maybe kind of not and maybe
• 48:52
  there's a reason, but we don't know the reason. So we can just
• 48:53
  go off the film, uh, anything else on this point before we move
• 48:58
  on to the next. No, we are, as per usual, drastically
• 49:02
  behind. Now I hate us, do you though? Do you though?
• 49:08
  I hate myself more than I hate you. It's me. It's me.
• 49:12
  I hate myself. Oh oh, you can't hit me with the It's not
• 49:15
  you, it's me I invented. It's not you. It's me, all
• 49:19
  right, it's you, your damn right, it's me. That's not Mitch
• 49:22
  Hedberg. For those who are playing at home, that is Seinfeld. All
• 49:25
  right. We're sticking on the wide receiver conversation, the wide receiver train.
• 49:29
  If you're a w GR listener, this is right up your alley. Oh
• 49:31
  nice, Stanza nice can't stand I can't can't stand you, tropic of cancer,
• 49:39
  Constanza can't stand you. How many wide receivers and what kind of wide
• 49:45
  receivers do the Bills need to get or come away from this draft with.
• 49:52
  I'd love for them to double dip, and specifically I would like two types,
• 49:57
  two archetypes. Number one. I have used the phrase go get you
• 50:00
  a bucket more this off season in the last couple of weeks than I have
• 50:06
  in a long time. So I think part of this just comes to understanding
• 50:12
  positions when it comes to wide receiver, and one of the things that the
• 50:15
  Buffalo Bills need right now is they need someone who can play X. Now,
• 50:20
  obviously we go through the positional stuff when it comes to why it's not
• 50:22
  just a wide receiver. It's specifically a type of wide receiver who can specifically
• 50:29
  be on the line of scrimmage and can win against press, win vertically.
• 50:34
  Usually the traits you like to see there, and some of these things are
• 50:37
  they're complementary, but in a negative way. And I want to explain this
• 50:38
  to you. So when you have a receiver on your team who's going to
• 50:46
  play X, they're going to be farther away from the rest of the offense.
• 50:52
  They're going to be on the line of scrimmage. They're going to be
• 50:53
  facing a lot more press They're going to have the added challenge of having the
• 51:00
  sideline usually on one of their shoulders. And so because of this, you
• 51:05
  need people who can stack cornerbacks. You need people who have body control on
• 51:09
  the sidelines. You need obviously some vertical ability. You need people who can
• 51:14
  win that deep inbreaking routes, those backside digs that are so popular and so
• 51:17
  many offenses. Oh Mitchell cough cough, Yes, eighty Menchell cough cough,
• 51:22
  Right, you need those types of players. But the problem is that the
• 51:28
  traits that are necessary to be able to get those types of players hurt you
• 51:34
  when you are playing elsewhere. So let me walk you through this. Okay.
• 51:37
  If I want somebody who's gonna be a slot player, okay, I
• 51:39
  want someone with great hip flexibility, and specifically I want someone who can get
• 51:43
  their hips low. I want low hit elevation because you need to be able
• 51:45
  to accelerate out of your breaks and make separation quickness. Well, lower hip
• 51:50
  elevation. People who are shorter has a tendency to help with this because people
• 51:54
  who are shorter have a tendency to have lower hip elevation, which means they
• 51:58
  have the ability to get lower in their breaks, which means they can accelerate
• 52:00
  out and create short area quickness. People with lower hip elevation have a tendency
• 52:05
  to be shorter people. People who are shorter have a tendency to have less
• 52:08
  length. If you're shorter, your arms aren't as long. If your arms
• 52:13
  aren't as long, it usually hurts you with press, which then hurts your
• 52:15
  ability to play on the outside. So all these things are interconnected, but
• 52:20
  not in a good way. So it's not just I want a receiver.
• 52:24
  It's I have Curtis Sammy who can play on the outside, but we'd like
• 52:29
  to play them in the slot. I have Khalil Shager who can play on
• 52:32
  the outside, but I like to play on the shot slot. I have
• 52:35
  Dalton Kay who can play on the outside, but like to blame in the
• 52:37
  slot. It's not just a need receiver, it's I need an X.
• 52:43
  I need someone who can play the X position. So Ralph Wilson puts out
• 52:50
  Troy frank Franklin is one of those players. Troy Franklin can beat press,
• 52:53
  right, I think lad McConkie can beat press and play on the outside.
• 52:57
  I think Brian Thomas Jr. Can do that. I know Javon Baker can
• 53:01
  do that. One of the reasons why I consistently do that, it's not
• 53:04
  just because he's a good player. It's because it's a good fit for what
• 53:07
  the team needs. So that's the first type of player that I want.
• 53:10
  I won an X. The second type of player I want is I want
• 53:15
  a return man. Oh, we don't talk about this like at all.
• 53:19
  So who is the current return man for the Buffalo Bills, like right now?
• 53:23
  Ty Johnson? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. That's like they want
• 53:29
  to unless they want to get sexy and maybe do Curtis Samuel, Like I
• 53:32
  mean Khalil Shakir maybe, Yeah, Like that's that's the guy. I want
• 53:37
  a return man, and I can get them in this draft. I can
• 53:40
  get a receiver early Day three who can come in and be vertical and win
• 53:45
  down the field, be explosive, add that speed element, which is another
• 53:50
  aspect that we need, and can make sure that you can take advantage of
• 53:55
  some I think you're gonna have an opportunity to have one or two games this
• 53:58
  year that are by the fact that teams are still figuring out kickoffs. I
• 54:04
  truly believe there's a window opportunity here if you can get ahead of it and
• 54:07
  be a little bit more on the cutting edge that you can take advantage and
• 54:10
  steal a touchdown or two because people are still trying to figure it out if
• 54:15
  you have a return man. And so those are the two types of receivers
• 54:20
  that I love for the Bills to come out of the draft with. I'm
• 54:23
  in a similar boat. So it's gonna be a nice and tidy segment.
• 54:28
  Yeah, I've been clamoring for that X receiver spot, and it doesn't have
• 54:30
  to be I think when people hear X, I feel like they conflate it
• 54:36
  with like the true number one or true receiver. And I know that's kind
• 54:42
  of been prototypically or traditionally the standard. Like especially when someone's like, oh,
• 54:45
  give me an example of like a prototypical or traditional axing, You're like,
• 54:47
  oh, Julio Jones, and so the assumption is like, oh,
• 54:51
  that guy's an X, and then someone will be like, well, is
• 54:52
  Tyreek killing X. It's like, no, there is Z, and it's
• 54:55
  like okay, So then the X is of the number one. I don't
• 54:58
  think you need an EX necessarily have him be your number one receiver. Now,
• 55:01
  yes, I think a lot of the guys that I gravitate towards in
• 55:05
  round one have that X size, frame and skill set the Brian Thomas's the
• 55:09
  eighty Mitchells. I don't think Lad McConkie is a true X. But to
• 55:15
  your point, I think he has some X pieces that are underrated, Like
• 55:19
  I don't want him living on the outside all the time and always trying to
• 55:22
  get vertical. But he can get vertical and he can be pressed. But
• 55:24
  the size and frame is going to limit him in fifty to fifty balls,
• 55:28
  ball winning, separating at the catchpoint. Little things like that. But I
• 55:30
  think that true X, which is part of the reason why I gravitated towards
• 55:34
  Javon Baker since before the Senior Bowl, back when I thought he was going
• 55:37
  to go in like the third or fourth round. Now maybe he creeps up
• 55:40
  into the second. Just his size and frame and skill set and how it
• 55:45
  fits in I just and plus what he is as a blocker, it just
• 55:49
  fits so well with this Bill's roster in this depth chart and what this offense
• 55:52
  is. And also I think within this conversation something I want to mention earlier
• 55:58
  and I forgot until right now, which is annoying because the head in my
• 56:00
  notes earlier I just glossed over it. I think a lot of this conversation
• 56:04
  is dependent upon what Dalton Kincaid is in twenty twenty four and beyond, because
• 56:13
  if Dalton Kinkaid is your true one, then that changes the kind of draft
• 56:19
  philosophy you have when it comes to receiver in this draft. If Dalton Kinkaid
• 56:22
  is going to be your true one. Also, X conversation this is you
• 56:25
  know, I don't want to get too much on a tangent here because it's
• 56:29
  a longer conversation, bigger conversation. But you could do some things with Dalton
• 56:31
  Kinkaid and line him up with the ex and make the defense have to answer
• 56:35
  questions that they potentially don't want to have to answer. But if you're going
• 56:37
  to treat Dalton Kinkaid as your true number one, then maybe you just need
• 56:42
  auxiliary pieces in support of him, with different skill set, pieces or traits
• 56:46
  that allow him to thrive more or open the field up more for him,
• 56:52
  or allow those auxiliary pieces to succeed, even though their skill set may be
• 56:57
  more limited or they don't have all the traits because of how they pair with
• 57:00
  Dalton Kincaid and how that fits in the offense. Now, if Dalton Kinkaid
• 57:02
  is just going to be a really good tight end and be a two and
• 57:06
  be more of you know, when he was drafted, he was drafted to
• 57:09
  be a secondary piece potentially two Stefan Diggs. I don't think this Dig's move
• 57:15
  was something that the Bills had planned from last year based on the contract they
• 57:17
  gave him. In all these pieces, So that's still the thought process.
• 57:21
  Where Kincaid is more of the secondary option, which is a great secondary option,
• 57:25
  then I feel like you have to look for more of that receiver with
• 57:29
  that true wide receiver one upside a lot of these guys that we've talked about,
• 57:32
  But regardless, you need that X piece And I've said it a million
• 57:37
  times on the show, I've said it on the film with Eric. I
• 57:40
  think it's a Daniel Jeremiah quote, like building your receiver room like a basketball
• 57:45
  lineup. You need your point guard, your two guards, small forward,
• 57:46
  power forward center. The Bills need that true X type of size and frame
• 57:52
  and skill set. And I know Matt Collins has some of the size and
• 57:55
  frame pieces you know, checked off, but he doesn't necessarily have the skill
• 57:59
  set or the traits to occupy that spot. So I do think you need
• 58:01
  to come away from that X spot. And then I'm in a similar boat.
• 58:05
  The return piece is great, and that's not something I had considered,
• 58:07
  and I'm embarrassed and shamed for how churlish I was and not considering that,
• 58:12
  But I was in a similar ballpark. Give me, so give me someone
• 58:15
  that can be a potential X. Doesn't necessarily have to be a true number
• 58:17
  one, but someone that could be a potential X. And then the other
• 58:21
  receiver, So I think they need to the other receiver. I want to
• 58:23
  see them come away with Give me speed or give me the ability to separate,
• 58:28
  either with speed or with route running. Give me yards after catchability.
• 58:31
  Give me some combination where I can put the ball in your hands and you
• 58:36
  can do damage or you can stretch the defense. I need that other receiver
• 58:39
  to either be athleticism based or speed based. Ideally, your potential X would
• 58:45
  have some speed to them, which is why I gravitate a little more towards
• 58:47
  Brian Thomas Junior and Ady Mitchell and those guys. But I'm cool with taking
• 58:53
  Javon Baker and then pairing him with Malik Washington or Taj Washington and just having
• 58:58
  him be a speed burner or even though it's kind of maybe like for like,
• 59:00
  I really like Jamari Thrash and I wouldn't mind that app option because of
• 59:04
  how he can separate and his ability to generate yards after catch, even though
• 59:07
  he's not a true burner. Ran a four to four eight, but I
• 59:10
  don't think he plays like a four to four eight on tape. So give
• 59:13
  me that potential ax and then pair it with somebody who has speed and or
• 59:16
  the ability to separate with their speed or route running in yards after catch.
• 59:21
  I want to boost the athleticism of this wide receiver group, So give me
• 59:24
  that wing defender with the athleticism, give me a three and D guy,
• 59:29
  and then also give me that power forward at the same time and really round
• 59:31
  out this wide receiver group to go with your two guard and Curtis Samuel the
• 59:36
  point guard in Khalil Shakir, and then whatever the hell we label Dalton Kinkaid
• 59:39
  as even though he's a tight end Yeah, I'm good with it, and
• 59:44
  I really appreciate how deep you went into the basketball metaphors. I think that's
• 59:47
  important. I appreciate a good metaphor. A good metaphor and a good analogy
• 59:52
  are things that I'm a huge fan of. Last topic here, Bruce,
• 59:54
  and then we are going to bid you ado top three priorities for the Bills
• 59:59
  in this twenty twenty for NFL Draft. This one was already on my list,
• 1:00:02
  but I thought it was especially poetic because again we're coming full circle.
• 1:00:06
  The last time you were on the show, we were ranking the priorities for
• 1:00:08
  this Bills team. So much has really changed since then, mainly this to
• 1:00:12
  Fon Diggs move. So the top three priorities for the Buffalo Bills in the
• 1:00:15
  twenty twenty four NFL Draft floor is yours. Number one X wide receiver for
• 1:00:23
  all the reasons we already talked about. Yes, number two edge rusher.
• 1:00:29
  I am not counting on von Miller. I think it's just wise to not
• 1:00:36
  count on people in their mid thirties. I think it's just smart coming off
• 1:00:39
  of top surgeres and just just a good idea in general. There was a
• 1:00:45
  stand up comic who is not Mitch Hedberg. I think it was Taylor Tomlinson
• 1:00:49
  who said one time she was talking about being in your twenties and she goes,
• 1:00:52
  you know, everybody wants to go back to the twenties because they always
• 1:00:57
  say that, you know, I didn't have any responsibility in my twenties,
• 1:01:00
  you know, And then you think, do you remember why you didn't have
• 1:01:04
  any responsibility in your twenties? It was because you were a loser and nobody
• 1:01:09
  trusted you to be competent at anything. Your nana would be like, listen,
• 1:01:14
  Bruce, can you bring napkins to the party? Can you think you
• 1:01:17
  can handle that? Just bring napkins? Yeah, Nana, I can bring
• 1:01:20
  napkins. Yeah yeah. Don't you dare go to Dollar General on your way
• 1:01:23
  here, get actual napkins. That's the way I feel about thirty five year
• 1:01:28
  old pass rushers, like just you can't you can't count on. So to
• 1:01:32
  me, edge rusher is a meaningful thing. And the third thing is I
• 1:01:38
  would really like to have another plan aside from Daikwon Jones at thirty two for
• 1:01:46
  your next one tech. I think one of the things that losing Daikwon Jones
• 1:01:52
  showed the Buffalo bills is that you need Daikwon Jones. And when you have
• 1:01:57
  a thirty two year old one tech who is a critical piece of your defense,
• 1:02:01
  I would feel a lot better if you didn't have a just a massive
• 1:02:07
  void hanging out behind him. And that's not to say that I'm not,
• 1:02:12
  you know, interested in Dayshawn Williams and Austin Johnson, but I would like
• 1:02:16
  somebody that is a one tech that can be a meaningful piece of this defensive
• 1:02:25
  line rotation and can easily slide into Daiquon's spot in two years. That's fair?
• 1:02:34
  Do you value that? So? Obviously you do give me your reasoning
• 1:02:38
  for why you value that more than a backup three tech right now? Given
• 1:02:44
  the presence of Austin Johnson, No though he isn't the long term option at
• 1:02:50
  at one tech after day one. Only the age differential between Dayquon and at
• 1:02:52
  Oliver, that's it, Okay, It's just it's session planning. So I
• 1:02:57
  view the need to be similar in talent. Behind at Oliver, you have
• 1:03:04
  a player who I'm like, eh about Behind Dia Kwon Jones, you have
• 1:03:07
  a player I'm about the difference is Dakwon Jones thirty two and at Oliver isn't.
• 1:03:12
  So that's the tiebreaker for me. It's a succession plan. It's not
• 1:03:15
  that if you get another three check, I couldn't make an argument that that
• 1:03:17
  need on paper in a vacuum is just as notable as that at one Tech.
• 1:03:23
  The difference is the one Tech's thirty two. I echo a lot of
• 1:03:28
  these similar sentiments. So I'm gonna ask you a question and then we'll wrap
• 1:03:30
  up this segment where what are your thoughts on safety given where we stand?
• 1:03:35
  And where does did that come close to crack in your top three? Okay,
• 1:03:38
  it did because I am established not a gung ho Taylor rap is totally
• 1:03:44
  the answer at safety guy. But I just trust Sean McDermott to be able
• 1:03:50
  to grab somebody and make it work a little bit better on the back end
• 1:03:54
  than I do on the front end, because well, quite frankly, that
• 1:03:59
  the proof is the pudding. I mean, right, you've shown that that
• 1:04:01
  he can he can do that. And so even even in situations where you
• 1:04:05
  had a less than effective Michael Hyde and Jordan Boyer and you had to throw
• 1:04:10
  in DeMar Hamlin for multiple games, who I thought looked fine right when he
• 1:04:14
  was in and starting. And so I think that the system you get a
• 1:04:18
  heady, instinctual player, you can get somebody in the fourth, fifth round.
• 1:04:25
  I mean I think that in my in my final mock like spoiler not
• 1:04:29
  spoiler, it's already up. It's already up Buffalo Romings dot Com. It's
• 1:04:31
  not a spoiler. Anyone who's read is already gonna read it. Right.
• 1:04:35
  For me, I took Jalen Simpson in the Yes Simpson, if you want
• 1:04:43
  a versatile player who's you know, he's gonna fall for a reason, it's
• 1:04:47
  because he's small, right, and he played that inside nickel free safety role
• 1:04:50
  for Auburn. But if you want to have a safety, if you want
• 1:04:55
  to have a third safety who can come down and play that you could pay
• 1:04:58
  double slots with him, Taron Johnson. You can play a lot more dime
• 1:05:01
  if you want to play dime. And so I think that he's a player
• 1:05:04
  that you can get on day three and I think you can come in and
• 1:05:09
  I think that, I mean, there are people out there who are gonna
• 1:05:12
  think the Simpson's a corner, that's the man coverage ability. I think,
• 1:05:15
  yeah, So for me, that's that's the kind of player It's just the
• 1:05:19
  only reason that it didn't make my top three is because I just have more
• 1:05:24
  faith in the defensive backs coaching and the system to be able to cover that
• 1:05:29
  a little bit more than you can cover something close to the line scrimmage?
• 1:05:31
  Is that your favorite way of addressing safety? Like you get someone on day
• 1:05:36
  three and particul in this example like Jalen Simpson, like that's the way you
• 1:05:40
  patch it? Like you're not you know, is it? Do you acquire
• 1:05:43
  that third round pick and you get Cam Kitchens or Jabam Bullard or another safety
• 1:05:47
  or do you prefer going that day three option because of the track record in
• 1:05:51
  pedigree of mc dermott. I'm completely fine with Bullard or Bishop or you know,
• 1:05:56
  Kinchins in the third round or something like that. I think Bullard is
• 1:05:58
  probably the second round pick, but I don't think that Tyler Nuben is on
• 1:06:00
  the on the on the plate. I think Nuben will go high second round,
• 1:06:03
  and I don't think the Bills are going to value it that highly.
• 1:06:06
  And I love Newban Okay, just a huge Nuban fan. Right is he
• 1:06:11
  your safety one? He is? Oh? He is? So he is?
• 1:06:14
  And I know this is a this is a we're going we're going a
• 1:06:18
  little bit off topic. But Dadrian Taylor, Demonson Emerson, if he shows
• 1:06:24
  up in round three, I wouldn't be mad, Okay, I'm just me.
• 1:06:29
  Man, this this safety class is so weird. Like you, I
• 1:06:31
  feel like and I say this all the time. Evaluation is different. You
• 1:06:33
  ask ten people, ten different people like their evaluations and thoughts and rankings,
• 1:06:38
  you'll get like ten different answers. But this safety class, like some people
• 1:06:41
  have Nubin is one. Some people have Jayden Hicks, some people have Demerson,
• 1:06:45
  some people have like Nate Tice has Malik Mustafa. I love Mustafa.
• 1:06:48
  My three favorite safeties in this class are well, I should say four.
• 1:06:51
  I like Nubin, He's my one. Cam Kitchens is still my safety.
• 1:06:55
  Two, I really like Malik Mustafa. And I love Jalen Simpson. I
• 1:06:58
  love that you said Jalen Simpson. His just that one year of safety,
• 1:07:01
  which was this past year for Auburn, And you're watching him driving close and
• 1:07:08
  break up passes on brock Bauers and Malik Neighbors in the SEC and the I
• 1:07:12
  forget the Georgia receiver who he mosses for that interception over the middle of the
• 1:07:15
  field, and the size is a concern, right being sub one eighty at
• 1:07:18
  like one seventy eight, one seventy nine. I'd like him to add a
• 1:07:20
  little more muscle, and I do think his angles need to improve coming from
• 1:07:25
  depth along with you know, his angles have to be so perfect now because
• 1:07:29
  he doesn't have any size on him, so arm tackles aren't gonna workcause everybody's
• 1:07:31
  gonna run through his arms because he's a skin of your guy. But the
• 1:07:34
  willingness is there, and just what he did in one year at safety,
• 1:07:39
  like this is a guy who was a corner every other year, and watching
• 1:07:42
  his coverage ability in zone man match coverages and against the caliber of opponent,
• 1:07:47
  I keep coming back to Jalen Simpson every time and like my dream, Yeah,
• 1:07:50
  get him and see if you can push him as close to one hundred
• 1:07:54
  and ninety pounds as possible without losing all the speed he runs. He runs
• 1:07:58
  in the four fours, and just I really like his upside if you can
• 1:08:00
  just get him a little bit thicker. But even if you can't, he
• 1:08:03
  has the option to be that like kind of a dime dude like you said,
• 1:08:05
  or playing him in the slot He's just so so intriguing to me.
• 1:08:10
  But yeah, this safety class is wild, and I'm down a little bit
• 1:08:13
  on Emerson. He just, for whatever reason, doesn't do it for me,
• 1:08:15
  though I think the speed is awesome. And some of this because you
• 1:08:18
  hate me? Is that what it is? It might be, or it
• 1:08:20
  might be. I really didn't like how short his pants were in the Texas
• 1:08:25
  game, Like he was basically wearing shorts with no pads, and it pissed
• 1:08:28
  me off. Yeah, but when Josh Allen does it, we love it.
• 1:08:30
  No, I still hate it. It's just I hate that, and
• 1:08:32
  I have an irrational hatred when people leave their mouthguard out, like Stefan Diggs.
• 1:08:36
  Why have it attached to your helmet if you're never going to put it
• 1:08:40
  in? It serves no purpose. Just don't you know why? It is
• 1:08:43
  right? So it's you remember when having a wallet chain was all the right.
• 1:08:49
  It's just that for football players. I hate it so much. It's
• 1:08:54
  the dangly it's and it's just jokes all I'm waiting for everybody to get in
• 1:08:58
  with that. So she said, it's just out there flopping around, and
• 1:09:00
  it's just flopping around. Instructing your view it's just it just it just totally
• 1:09:04
  gets in the way. You know. Sometimes it just it flops out there.
• 1:09:08
  You got to kind of like hold it down, you know, it's
• 1:09:10
  all just flaccid. All right, I'm stopping there. Yeah, it drives
• 1:09:14
  me nuts, but yeah, the safety class is really interesting. A lot
• 1:09:16
  of these pieces are very interesting. And I'm going to continue on and answer
• 1:09:19
  a couple more questions that we got from the chat that I started wrap this
• 1:09:23
  thing up. But Bruce, you have done your due diligence here. I'm
• 1:09:26
  going to send you on your merry way. You crushed it. As always,
• 1:09:30
  there is not another person I wanted to have this conversation with your genuinely,
• 1:09:33
  and I've said it before and we've talked about it. You are genuinely
• 1:09:35
  one of my favorite people in general as a person, but especially as far
• 1:09:39
  as guests to have on this show. You crushed this episode as I hoped
• 1:09:43
  you would. I had a blast with you. Just in case people don't
• 1:09:46
  know who you are and what you do. Things are changing a little bit
• 1:09:49
  for you now and we'll see what's on the horizon, but the floor is
• 1:09:53
  yours. Tell everybody who you are, what you do, and where they
• 1:09:55
  can find you. You know, this is the first time that I have
• 1:09:59
  ever said this without an active podcast. I know I was wondering very strangely.
• 1:10:04
  So you can find me on Twitter, Instagram, approos Exclusive. I
• 1:10:09
  formerly had a show on the Buffalo Rumblings podcast network, but I don't anymore.
• 1:10:14
  So for me, I am not employed in the podcasting space right now,
• 1:10:20
  currently evaluating options. I do still write for Buffalo Rumblings as at the
• 1:10:24
  time of this recording. As mentioned about his my uh mock draft that is
• 1:10:29
  getting a lot of negative attention. I'm just so thredded because everybody's just so
• 1:10:34
  angry at every mock that isn't exactly what we want, so mad at me,
• 1:10:39
  they're so mad at you. And here's the thing. It's a predictive
• 1:10:42
  one, Like it isn't even my preference. It's just what I think could
• 1:10:45
  reasonably happen. And you think like I didn't even make the picks. I
• 1:10:50
  just made the predictions. I don't even like two of the players on this
• 1:10:55
  mock. I just think it lines up with the bills that I can see
• 1:10:58
  them do it, Like, why are you yelling at me? I'm a
• 1:11:00
  person. I just this is just what I think is gonna happen. I'm
• 1:11:02
  a person, you all, I'm thinking a king that's King of Queens.
• 1:11:09
  Is that what you're referencing? Yes, yeah, you it's when you ask
• 1:11:14
  me yes. Carry jerks it back and forth, back and forth to be
• 1:11:18
  the expert person, and eventually he looks at her and he goes, I'm
• 1:11:24
  a person, you hate me, don't ever come to me again. Okay,
• 1:11:28
  understood, And then it's all for that, just for Doug to come
• 1:11:30
  in and the only question they ask him is like, who do you work
• 1:11:33
  for? And he's like IPS International Parcel Service and they're like, in your
• 1:11:36
  estimation, do you think most packages are delivered like reasonably on time? And
• 1:11:40
  he's like yes, and they're like, all right, that's all question.
• 1:11:44
  That was the whole expert witness thing. You and I just went on a
• 1:11:47
  tangent that literally like seven people are gonna get that's the goal. Though.
• 1:11:51
  I like to niche down and niche down and niche down, because when you
• 1:11:55
  go with those real niche examples, I feel like he gets appreciate more.
• 1:12:00
  And when it lands on someone, they just love it and they just feel
• 1:12:03
  awesome. And I want that, Like when you're listening to that one show
• 1:12:06
  and they hit that one reference that you get and you're like, oh my
• 1:12:10
  gosh, that's amazing. Like there's like four of my listeners former listeners I
• 1:12:14
  guess who watch the Good Place and I'll make a Good Place reference. I'm
• 1:12:18
  like, hey, you made a Good Place reference. I'm like, yes,
• 1:12:20
  there we go. Anyway. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram,
• 1:12:24
  Apples exclusive, and stay tuned for potentially information coming in the next I
• 1:12:30
  don't know a couple of weeks about whether or not you will be able to
• 1:12:34
  continue to listen to brucisms or not. Anthony, you're a gentleman of a
• 1:12:40
  scholar. Thank you, sir. You're always welcome around these parts in whatever
• 1:12:43
  form or fashion. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday. I'll be dming you
• 1:12:47
  after to apologize for going over like I always do, which it's just us
• 1:12:53
  at this that we did. It's just the thing like and we both mean
• 1:12:57
  well, we both commit to it, and it just yeah, it is
• 1:13:00
  what it is. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday. I appreciate you as
• 1:13:03
  always. I'll see you in the DMS. Godspeed, and I wish you
• 1:13:08
  the best going forward and we'll see what happens. That's the way the cookie
• 1:13:10
  crumblest later later, Bruce one of the best. Mister Bruce Nolan one of
• 1:13:16
  my favorites. Well, the only person who ever call out my use of
• 1:13:20
  one of my favorite people. But I don't say it often, and I
• 1:13:23
  do say it for him every time he comes on the show because he is
• 1:13:25
  absolutely tremendous. Also, this was awesome, Sophie. I appreciate this comment
• 1:13:28
  saying you two are incredibly compatible, more Bruce than At. Yeah. I
• 1:13:31
  love talking ball with Bruce and we're compatible and we vibe off one another.
• 1:13:36
  Well, so it was awesome happening here. I thought this was a very
• 1:13:39
  fun episode. Now I want to go back because there were several comments that
• 1:13:43
  I starred as we went through. This one was a good one from John,
• 1:13:47
  and I wanted to put it up to the chat too to see what
• 1:13:50
  your answers are. So John at discontinued Foods. His question was not related
• 1:13:56
  to this draft, but just out of curiosity in your fandom, which draft
• 1:14:00
  pick has had the greatest excited when picked to eventual disappointment swing and vice versa.
• 1:14:08
  I think so. I thought about it initially and then I didn't want
• 1:14:11
  to give too much stuck because I was gonna zone out while Bruce was talking.
• 1:14:14
  I think this probably is low hanging fruit, and I feel like it's
• 1:14:15
  a lot of this will be a lot of people's answers, like the greatest
• 1:14:18
  excited when picked to eventual disappointment swing probably Sammy Watkins. Actually yeah, and
• 1:14:25
  Charles already said it like Sammy, I do want to give it with a
• 1:14:29
  caveat though I was a little disappointed when they picked Sammy. Not holistically,
• 1:14:34
  but I really thought they were trading up for Khalil Mack and I wanted it
• 1:14:38
  to be Khalil Mack, and I thought it was gonna be Khalil Max,
• 1:14:41
  especially with like Rex Ryan being a defensive coach the needs at the time,
• 1:14:45
  I really thought it was gonna be Khalil Mack. So there was a little
• 1:14:47
  disappointment in me because it wasn't Khalil, but Sammy Watkins was awesome, like
• 1:14:53
  and at that time, I wasn't watching all twenty two. I wasn't in
• 1:14:58
  this space that I am now, Like. I still I love football and
• 1:15:00
  had a lot of the knowledge that I have now, but I didn't study
• 1:15:03
  Sammy Watkins on tape, so I didn't have any of my own individual evaluation.
• 1:15:08
  My evaluation was listening to respected people that I listened to and watched on
• 1:15:12
  TV. I wasn't listening to this podcast at the time. I was literally
• 1:15:14
  just watching ESPN and NFL Network, and everybody in their mother told me how
• 1:15:18
  great Sammy Watkins was gonna be, so that tempered some of my disappointment.
• 1:15:21
  But yeah, it's got to be Sammy Watkins. I mean, dude set
• 1:15:25
  the world on fire at Clemson, was traded up for top five pick and
• 1:15:28
  then just to see not even just with the Bills, but then going from
• 1:15:31
  the Bills and just kind of being a journey man with and I was even
• 1:15:34
  thinking of it now, like I forgot he was on the Rams because we
• 1:15:36
  traded into the Rams. So he was a Ram, he was a Chief,
• 1:15:41
  he was a raven. Like I don't I think, like I don't
• 1:15:45
  even remember all the teams he was on. It's so wild for a dude
• 1:15:46
  that was so hyped. And that's also part of I hate to use that
• 1:15:49
  example, but tying that into a piece I mentioned earlier, why like even
• 1:15:53
  everybody, like any guy who seems like the most sure prospect, concrete,
• 1:15:58
  done and dusted. This dude is gonna hit. He's gonna be sick.
• 1:16:02
  Sammy Watkins was that guy. He a good call, Pops. Yeah,
• 1:16:05
  he was a Green Bay Packer. Like I feel like Sammy played like every
• 1:16:08
  team in the NFL, but probably some CFL teams. Like it's just it's
• 1:16:12
  wild. He was a hands down, done and dusted, no doubt about
• 1:16:17
  it type of dude, blue chip, purple chip guy, s tier type
• 1:16:21
  of prospect in a class that included Mike Evans and Odell He was a tier
• 1:16:27
  above all those guys, and he flamed out all things considered. Yeah,
• 1:16:32
  Kay, Morris says in the comedy, Yeah, he won a super Bowl.
• 1:16:34
  He got one with Kansas City. Also, he had that kind of
• 1:16:39
  that catch that iced it if I remember correctly on Richard Sherman, like he
• 1:16:42
  beat him. I think on a little like stutter go or a double move
• 1:16:45
  and beat him up the sideline and Mahomes hit him, and I think that
• 1:16:47
  iced it or helped win the game. I don't remember what the dry was.
• 1:16:49
  I try to forget that super Bowl because I hate the Chiefs, but
• 1:16:53
  yeah, it's probably excited when picked to eventual disappointment swing as Sammy Watkins.
• 1:16:58
  The other one is fun though, so if we do and vice versa,
• 1:17:00
  who when picked was disappointment and then swung to the excited side. Ooh.
• 1:17:10
  I don't know. If I had anybody that I was like disappointed and then
• 1:17:12
  ended up being good, I wouldn't say so. I don't think I can
• 1:17:15
  say disappointed, But like what Kyle Williams became was tremendous, just like his
• 1:17:18
  journey in terms of where he was picked and what he became. That's a
• 1:17:24
  really good one for somebody that was just like, oh, a lot of
• 1:17:27
  the guys who are I was disappointed on? Never really, but like I
• 1:17:30
  was disappointed on Dante Whitner, I was disappointed on John McCargo, I was
• 1:17:34
  disappointed on Aaron Mabin. Ooh, Nikki saying Josh Allen, that's a good
• 1:17:39
  answer. That's probably a good answer for a lot of people. I wasn't
• 1:17:42
  disappointed with Alan. I had Sam Donald as my QB won that year and
• 1:17:45
  I still will maintain to this day. I think if Sam Donald went to
• 1:17:48
  a better situation, Sam Donald would have a much, much, much different
• 1:17:53
  career. But the Bills couldn't get Donald. I didn't like Josh Rosen.
• 1:17:57
  Baker was off the board, so oh, a lot of people saying,
• 1:18:00
  Josh Allen, that's nice, Ooh, Bernard is a good answer there too.
• 1:18:03
  Yeah, I didn't. I wasn't down on the Josh Allen pick because
• 1:18:08
  I didn't like Josh Rosen and so I was like, okay, fine,
• 1:18:10
  the QB I really wanted with Sam Darnold. He was already off the board,
• 1:18:13
  so whatever. But a lot of the guys, yeah that I was
• 1:18:15
  disappointed on ended up continuing to disappoint me. I guess if I had to
• 1:18:18
  to go off the I wasn't completely mad at the Bernard pick, but I
• 1:18:23
  did question it given the other needs and then still having tremain and Milano.
• 1:18:27
  But in hindsight, you know, okay, And plus you go with the
• 1:18:30
  verbiage what is it the old uh proverbial like don't wait until you have a
• 1:18:34
  need to like address that need, try to do it a year ahead of
• 1:18:38
  time or whatever. So like against part of the reason why I'm advocating for
• 1:18:41
  a corner potentially in round one this year, or on day two, early
• 1:18:45
  in the second round, or even in the third, just just because again,
• 1:18:49
  addressing corner before you really need to, and it's a premium position.
• 1:18:53
  I guess Bernard would probably be there. I was disappointed, not necessarily with
• 1:18:56
  the player, more so of just the position that was picked, a little
• 1:19:00
  with the player, and then yeah, compared to what he's been I think
• 1:19:02
  that is a really good one. Oh Boogie Basham. I that's another one.
• 1:19:06
  I was disappointed when they took Basham, and I was disappointed throughout.
• 1:19:10
  I think the most disappointed I've ever been. Well, that's a good podcast
• 1:19:13
  episode, like a quick, little thirty minute one, Like most disappointed you
• 1:19:15
  ever were for a Bills pick. All the ones that I was disappointed on
• 1:19:18
  ended up being disappointing, and I'm not just saying that to pat myself on
• 1:19:24
  the back. I didn't like the bash and Pick. I didn't like Dante
• 1:19:27
  Whitner, but he ended up being alright for the Bills and then ended up
• 1:19:30
  being good with San Francisco. I guess, but I was down on my
• 1:19:32
  cargo. I didn't love the Lossman pick. I hated the EJ Manual pick,
• 1:19:36
  and not just because I'm a Miami Hurricanes guy and I don't like Florida
• 1:19:40
  State. Yeah, a lot of the ones that I was down on ended
• 1:19:43
  up kind of confirming my disappointment, which is unfortunate. This was a really
• 1:19:48
  good question from Josh earlier. Josh, I hope you're still around, and
• 1:19:51
  Johnathan just kind of food what. I hope you're still around too. So
• 1:19:54
  Josh says, hey, Aunt, if we double dip at wide receiver,
• 1:19:57
  which pair would you like us to see? This is a good a good
• 1:20:00
  one too, and goes in the chat feel free to play if we double
• 1:20:01
  dip it wide receiver, which pair would you like to see us take?
• 1:20:05
  So I'm gonna go back to a tweet that I tweeted like a month or
• 1:20:10
  so ago where and it kind of goes into the answers I gave earlier in
• 1:20:15
  terms of like what skill sets or trades you're looking for the receivers to have.
• 1:20:18
  I want a pair that equals a potential X receiver. And then a
• 1:20:24
  fun kind of just blanket statement it a fun skill set piece on the other
• 1:20:28
  end, like Charles says in the comment there, Javon Baker and Malik Washington,
• 1:20:30
  that's the type of example I'm in, right, So give me Javon
• 1:20:33
  Baker and Malik Washington. Give me Javon Baker and Xavier Worthy give me a
• 1:20:40
  d Mitchell and Malik Washington, give me Brian Thomas Junior and Jamari Thrash right,
• 1:20:45
  some kind of combination of a prototypical x and then another receiver that can
• 1:20:51
  separate with speed, athleticism and or route running or all of those three.
• 1:20:56
  Yeah, Dennis in the chat says Worthy and Baker. Yeah, it's oh.
• 1:21:00
  I appreciated seeing the comment there, Josh. I'm glad you're still here.
• 1:21:02
  Thank you for sticking around. I knew, I knew I was gonna
• 1:21:04
  get to this question. I just wanted to make sure you're still going to
• 1:21:06
  be here for it. I love this question. This one's super fun because
• 1:21:10
  it really gets into like the mix and match. I'd be cool with Lad
• 1:21:13
  McConkie and Javon Baker like that type of give me just a a fun guy.
• 1:21:18
  And I hate to use this kind of blanket statement, but just a
• 1:21:23
  fun guy, Lad McConkie, Xavier Worthy, Malik Washington, doj Washington,
• 1:21:27
  Jamari thrash like so guys like that and then pair it with that prototypical act
• 1:21:31
  Javon Baker, Ady Mitchell, Brian Thomas Junior. I'll put Xavier l get
• 1:21:38
  into that X category because of the size and the frame, and I do
• 1:21:41
  think you know, again, I think Xavier Logett is proto that prototypical is
• 1:21:46
  projection based in general, like you need to coach up his route tree and
• 1:21:50
  his stemwork and the finer points of the game. And I think the release
• 1:21:53
  package is part of it, to to Bruce's point, but I do think
• 1:21:56
  he can fit into that X mold. So give me Exavier Logat and again
• 1:22:00
  one of the smaller type of fun guys or oh, that's a good one
• 1:22:02
  from Nicky. Nicky says Piersall, and Brendan Rice. Brendan Rice is a
• 1:22:05
  really interesting one, especially if you're looking at potential x's that aren't the most
• 1:22:11
  popular hit on names, like we've talked about. It was Dame Brugler's answer
• 1:22:14
  when I had him on the show last week, like who's an extra receiver
• 1:22:16
  that can be had on day two or day three, like outside of the
• 1:22:19
  big name guys in round one, And he went with Brendan Rice, So
• 1:22:24
  that could be a combination. I don't love Rice, but I like what
• 1:22:27
  he potentially can be and even what he is now for a little bit.
• 1:22:30
  Although I like someone a bit sexier. I would yeah, pair that pair
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  that up right. I think Ricky Piersall is a fun name to Nicky's point
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  there, like pier Sall and Baker Piersall and Brendan Rice. I like Marcus
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  rosenmy Jack Saint from Georgia, but he's more late. Day three might even
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  fall into undrafted free agency territory, although I don't necessarily think that will happen
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  with him just because of some of the things that he offers. Or even
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  again, Keon Coleman and Jalen McMillan, Like, there's so many combinations.
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  I really like Jayln McMillan. I like Jayln McMillan more than I like Jaylen
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  Polk, you know, just kind of speaking on similar wide receivers together.
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  Are Washington wide receivers together? Anthony Gould from Oregon State? Isn't that fun
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  wide receiver category? Who oh, Charles ooh, Xavier Leaguett and Ryan Flornoy
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  from Southeast Missouri State. That's a cool one. Malachi Corley is also an
• 1:23:29
  interesting name, like just because he plays like a running back once he gets
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  the ball in his hands. Ooh, that's a cool one. Pete saying
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  worthy and then Flora Noy in the sixth Oh, awesome, Josh. I
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  appreciate that comment definitely, but I appreciate you acknowledging it, and of course
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  that's a great comment. I appreciate you being here and being willing to ask
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  an awesome question and just being here in general and support me and the brand.
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  That's awesome. Malachi Corley is one who've come around on more. I
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  didn't have access to a lot of his tape throughout this draft process, and
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  then I did in the last several weeks or a couple of weeks, and
• 1:24:01
  I just didn't get around to it until like last week. So I haven't
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  spoken about Malachai Corley a lot, but just what he does with the ball
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  in his hands. Again, I don't think he's necessarily the most the most
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  sudden or sharp in terms of his route running and his stem work. But
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  man, you just give him the ball on like a little smoke screen and
• 1:24:20
  watch him run through dudes like he's got speed. But he's also truck sticking
• 1:24:25
  guys left and right. He truly is a running back once he gets the
• 1:24:28
  ball in his hands. He's so fun to watch. Corley's an interesting one
• 1:24:31
  just because of his size. He's like five ten two oh seven, but
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  I think he fits more of the FUN receiver mold than he does the X
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  receiver mold. Troy Franklin is one who I'm down on. I don't I
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  wouldn't hate the idea of Troy Franklin if they got him, even if they
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  took him at sixty. Although I do have more of a third round grade
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  than I do have a two on Troy Franklin, I'm not extremely high on
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  him. I also don't I know this is probably gonna get me in trouble.
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  I don't hate devontees Walker just because of what his speed can be depending
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  on where they got him. Again, I'm just trying to pair different skill
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  sets with sizes and frames and prototypes. Oh that's a cool one from Matt
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  Sam Laguett and Anthony Coole Charles to your question, what about Jalen Coker,
• 1:25:12
  I have not watched him yet. He's in my last group of I have
• 1:25:15
  a bunch of random running backs, defensive tackles, and some receivers to hit
• 1:25:20
  before the draft gets here on Thursday. I'm gonna putting out a bunch of
• 1:25:24
  stuff on Twitter in the coming days. But Yeah, I have to get
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  to Jalen Coker from Holy Cross. He's one that I kind of have to
• 1:25:32
  knock off my board. I also want to watch a little bit above means,
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  just because I've heard some people talk, but I haven't really watched him
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  a ton. Oh Nikki saying Worthy in pearsall Man, Xavier Worthy and Ricky
• 1:25:45
  pearsall would be sick. Oh. I like Daniel's one the two Xavier's Xavier
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  Worthy and Xavier the get that would be really cool. There's a lot of
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  fun. I think this also too, Like just seeing everybody's answers in the
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  chat and even some of the ones I've thrown out. I think that's a
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  really That's part of the reason why I am not stressing about wide receivers so
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  much, even though it is a big need for this team, especially now
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  it's to find Diggs's gone. There's so many fun combinations and possibilities at wide
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  receiver, and I really think we need to see the full gamut in terms
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  of the draft picks before we judge it. Like if the Bills took Lad
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  McConkie at twenty eight, I will feel better knowing they paired him with a
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  potential true AX later. So if they got Lad McConkie and then Javon Baker
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  or Brendan Rice, kind of put that into perspective, like, so say
• 1:26:33
  they get Lad mcconky and then they get Brendan Rice early on day three or
• 1:26:38
  late in day two, somehow that makes me feel a lot better, right,
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  But it'd be the same if even if they get that true AX,
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  I still want the fun receiver to go with it, but I will feel
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  better with the fun receiver knowing they have the potential X because I value the
• 1:26:53
  potential X more than I do that fun receiver. But again, it's a
• 1:26:56
  lot of mix and match, like you can really go down I don't know,
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  like the first twenty twenty three receivers and have Oh I shouldn't say that
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  because excluding the big three and pull out a lot of really fun combinations.
• 1:27:09
  I'm just going through like my list right now. And just even Johnny Wilson
• 1:27:12
  is kind of intriguing from Florida State, who I've looked at him more recently
• 1:27:16
  and watched the tape for some other guys or another comment here from Josh saying,
• 1:27:19
  I know you're low on Franklin, but if we do take him,
• 1:27:21
  who would you like to see him taken with? So Franklin I put in
• 1:27:26
  the fun category, right. His speed is super real, super legit.
• 1:27:29
  He and I know, I know, we ran a four to four to
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  one, which was disappointing at the combine considering what he runs on tape.
• 1:27:38
  But then it came out that he was like sick and wasn't feeling good and
• 1:27:40
  that's why he ran so poorly and why he looks so poorly, YadA,
• 1:27:42
  YadA. But I put Franklin in the fun category, right. I think
• 1:27:45
  the speed, the juice, the electricity, the ability to stack corners that
• 1:27:50
  place, he's either going to win vertically or he's going to pull coverage,
• 1:27:54
  and that's awesome. I think you pair Troy Franklin with more of the true
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  acts. So then for me, it's Troy Franklin and Kean Coleman or sorry,
• 1:28:02
  Javon Baker, Troy Franklin and Brendan Rice. Like I put him in
• 1:28:05
  that fun wide receiver bucket, and so then you have to put the fun
• 1:28:09
  guys with that type of true ax. But again, some of the fun
• 1:28:13
  guys can do some x things, like I do trust Lad McConkie to kind
• 1:28:16
  of win anywhere, although I don't want him winning fifty to fifty balls and
• 1:28:19
  going downfield, like I do trust Ricky Piersoll in a lot of ways,
• 1:28:24
  just because how good he is as a route runner and everything he does with
• 1:28:28
  how technical and fluid that he is. Ooh, good comment there from Charles
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  saying Franklin feels like a KC pick. Yeah. I could see Troy Franklin
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  going to Kansas City and just absolutely balling out. I don't know what they're
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  gonna do a receiver though now after getting Hollywood Brown and just he fills that
• 1:28:44
  speed element. So I don't know if sorry I had to cough there.
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  I don't know if they necessarily go there, but I'm man, that'd be
• 1:28:51
  wild just to get the speed of Rashid Rice, who I still don't love,
• 1:28:57
  but the speed of Rice, the speed of Hollywood Brown, like the
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  speed of Troy Franklin, and then you're still rocking with Grandy's a little older
• 1:29:04
  like Travis Kelce and their tight end sets and then being able to run the
• 1:29:06
  ball in that Olne Man, that would be nuts. Ooh. Coming here
• 1:29:11
  from Adam saying trade back they get a third round or draft o line or
• 1:29:14
  d line with your early second pier Saw with pick sixty and Javon Baker in
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  the third. I really I'm gonna keep banging the drum for the move of
• 1:29:23
  trading out of twenty eight into the thirties and hoping you get a third rounder
• 1:29:27
  back with it. That's really, really, really, really what I want
• 1:29:30
  to see. But man, if they could get this option, if they
• 1:29:33
  could make some sort of trade and they end up getting Ricky Piersall at sixty
• 1:29:38
  and Javon Baker in the third round, man, that would be really awesome.
• 1:29:42
  I have a two to three on Javon Baker, which is why I'm
• 1:29:45
  fine taking him at pick sixty, because you know, it's basically the end
• 1:29:49
  of the second round or the end. It's the almost the start of the
• 1:29:53
  third round at the end of the second Similar to how you take guys at
• 1:29:55
  the end of round one that have a two grade, you can take guys
• 1:29:58
  who have a three grade at the end of round two, and vice versa,
• 1:30:00
  and so on and so forth. Yeah, there's a lot of fun
• 1:30:04
  options for the Bills, and I I oh h foo T teeny. I'm
• 1:30:13
  not even trying to pronounce it, says the talk show. He's here in
• 1:30:15
  case are super high and worthy. All. You had an awesome comment earlier,
• 1:30:19
  and I pulled it up and I meant to start it because I think
• 1:30:24
  everybody should see it. It was on the make and Model. It was
• 1:30:27
  the make and model comment that you had. Oh I'm scrolling back. Nobody
• 1:30:31
  hate me. Everybody just talk amongst yourselves. Well, I try and find
• 1:30:35
  this comment. Oh I wish I Ah, there it is. This was
• 1:30:39
  an awesome comment. The wide receiver argument is like the truck argument Chevy versus
• 1:30:43
  Ford versus Toyota. Each is different in its own right, but no one
• 1:30:47
  is going to move off their make. I love that for this wide receiver
• 1:30:54
  conversation here, and even again, I'm a little guilty of it myself.
• 1:30:58
  Like I gravitate towards speed and route running all like, but I do love
• 1:31:02
  dudes who can win like fifty to fifty balls and make him eighty twenty.
• 1:31:05
  I do like guys that can separate at a catch point, which is why
• 1:31:09
  I, you know, even though he's clunky and not a good route runner,
• 1:31:12
  I do like Kean Coleman because of what he can do with the catch
• 1:31:14
  point. And I do think he's more athletic than he gets credit for.
• 1:31:15
  But this is absolutely specific. Like I can't tell you how many conversations I've
• 1:31:20
  heard with like the adults in my family from the time I was little of
• 1:31:26
  so and so who only you know drives Chevy and so and so who will
• 1:31:30
  only drive Ford F one fifties, and then the Dodge versus Ford truck conversation
• 1:31:34
  and the Chevy Silverados, And that's exactly it, Like each is different in
• 1:31:39
  their own right. No one's going to move off there make the Chevy dudes
• 1:31:42
  or Chevy Rider die no pun intended. Ford dudes are the same way Toyota
• 1:31:45
  dudes Dodge dudes. And I think it's similar for that wide receiver conversation this
• 1:31:50
  year, like who you what you like as a skill set or a mold
• 1:31:55
  tends to kind of come out in your rankings, and I've tried to fight
• 1:32:00
  super hard against that bias. But for me, I just value speed and
• 1:32:04
  route running because I think that's the biggest indicator of success at the next level
• 1:32:09
  in the NFL. If you're fast, that's awesome and that helps. But
• 1:32:12
  being a good route runner, you can consistently find ways to win regardless of
• 1:32:15
  your size, if you know how to get off the line with a good
• 1:32:17
  release, if you know how to stem your routes, pace your routes,
• 1:32:19
  accelerate and decelerate, all of that in that route running conversation, I just
• 1:32:25
  think it translates really well in that next level Charles saying, what do you
• 1:32:29
  value in your wide receiver? So for wide receivers, I just said speed
• 1:32:31
  and route running, although I do value ball winners as well, like the
• 1:32:35
  guys like T Higgins who again, like he says, turn fifty to fifty
• 1:32:39
  balls into eighty twenty balls edges. I value pass, rush, plan and
• 1:32:44
  defending the run. So being able to put moves together. You don't necessarily
• 1:32:46
  have to have the most moves coming out of college, because I think you
• 1:32:50
  can build upon that in the NFL. But I want to start to see
• 1:32:54
  some semblance of planning, even though you can learn this a bit at the
• 1:32:57
  NFL level as well. But I value planning understanding that you've been working this
• 1:33:01
  guy around the arc and the outside in the first half, so now you've
• 1:33:04
  got him thinking that and now you can set up the inside move right,
• 1:33:08
  or you've been working hard on that rip and winning that half man through the
• 1:33:11
  outside and now you're gonna package it with a spin or try and counter and
• 1:33:14
  come back inside. Or you've been winning inside, so now you're gonna try
• 1:33:16
  and use a cross jop and somehow change it up. So plan Pastor's plan
• 1:33:23
  and then juice so athleticism. I don't mind pocket compression type dudes, but
• 1:33:29
  I like more of the bendy, athletic turn the corner type of guys,
• 1:33:32
  Guys who you have just electricity and juice coming off the edge, and then
• 1:33:35
  dudes who defend the run. So like even like Darius Robinson isn't a juice
• 1:33:41
  guy, like he's a pocket compression guy. If you're looking at him for
• 1:33:44
  Edge the dude from Missouri. Some people view him as an interior defensive lineman.
• 1:33:47
  Some people view him all over the d line. I view him as
• 1:33:50
  an edge. He's not twitched up, he's not juiced up, but he
• 1:33:55
  defends the run so beautifully and he uses his length and his strength and that
• 1:33:59
  ability to fend the run, similar to like cornerbacks for me, like I
• 1:34:01
  love Terry and Arnold the guy. I think he's got good feet and he
• 1:34:03
  reads route distributions well and has good route anticipation, but the way he defends
• 1:34:08
  the run, Like, you find me a corner who defends the run,
• 1:34:11
  especially in today's NFL with two high safety looks, you need a corner who's
• 1:34:15
  gonna be able to come and function in the run. Fit. So I
• 1:34:16
  love like Terry and Arnold because of that. But yeah, so Edges,
• 1:34:19
  it's pastor's plan, like juice and athleticism and then the ability to defend the
• 1:34:25
  run. What else, so corners, corners, it's feet hand usage kind
• 1:34:30
  of brank breaking in three feet hand usage, and then defending the run obviously
• 1:34:34
  like eyes and route reading and all that. This could be a whole episode
• 1:34:38
  in and of itself, kind of breaking everything down. Josh with another one
• 1:34:42
  saying, the question I had last week was if we stay at twenty eight,
• 1:34:45
  would you trade back per perhaps twenty eight in a second next year,
• 1:34:48
  maybe at a fourth and a fifty this year to go get Washington's thirty six
• 1:34:53
  and forty give or take. Ooh, that's a lot of mixing and matching.
• 1:34:58
  But if I will say this right, the more Day two picks that
• 1:35:03
  the Bills can acquire in this draft, I am a fan of. I
• 1:35:09
  don't necessarily know if I want to package next year's two with it or in
• 1:35:13
  some kind of combination like that. But I am a fan of whatever gets
• 1:35:17
  the Bills more Day two picks, whether that means trading back from twenty eight,
• 1:35:20
  if that means trading back from sixty or back and then up or packaging
• 1:35:28
  you know, a third next year, or a fourth next year with a
• 1:35:30
  couple with a fourth this year and maybe even a player. I don't think
• 1:35:33
  that's gonna happen, but moving up and getting that third, like, whatever
• 1:35:35
  gets me more Day two picks in this draft, I am a fan of.
• 1:35:40
  That is where I think the most value is. And I know there
• 1:35:42
  are some really heavy hitters in terms of Round one graded guys, but if
• 1:35:45
  one of those true Round one graded guys aren't there at twenty eight, you've
• 1:35:50
  got this crop of second round graded dudes at twenty eight. I really want
• 1:35:55
  to find a way to trade back into the mid thirties and then I'll just
• 1:35:58
  be satisfied right there. If you can trade back out of twenty eight and
• 1:36:00
  get like I know Washington has like thirty six, like forty seventy eight and
• 1:36:05
  ninety something or eighty something like if you can give me that or if Baltimore
• 1:36:09
  wants to move up from thirty to twenty eight and they'll give you ninety three
• 1:36:11
  along with it, Like just some combination that gets me into the mid thirties
• 1:36:15
  but also gets me a third round pick this year. I love that above
• 1:36:18
  all, but just overall this year, whatever gets me more Day two picks.
• 1:36:24
  So round two and round three this year I am a fan of.
• 1:36:28
  And I like this come here from Nikki saying, all these wide receiver combos
• 1:36:32
  is why we're all so excited for Thursday's draft. There's too many possible outcomes.
• 1:36:35
  Yeah, And that's why I like to bring it back to what I
• 1:36:38
  said in the beginning. There would there would have to be something super sideways
• 1:36:43
  for me to hate what the Bills do in Round one or in this draft
• 1:36:45
  in general. There would have to be something. And I don't even like
• 1:36:48
  they would have to go running back in round one for me to be like
• 1:36:51
  pissed. I just think they could take Johnny Newton and I'd be cool.
• 1:36:55
  They could go interior defensive line, they could go intier offensive line. They
• 1:36:59
  could go receive, they could go edge, they could go corner. They
• 1:37:02
  could trade back, they could trade up a little bit. They could trade
• 1:37:05
  up big time, Like it would take a lot for me to be pissed
• 1:37:09
  off, which now I feel like I'm jinxing the hell out of what they're
• 1:37:11
  gonna do in the first round, and I'm gonna be super pissed. Yeah,
• 1:37:14
  I just I see a lot of possible outcomes, and a lot of
• 1:37:16
  them are all fun. You just got to mix and match. Although I
• 1:37:18
  do think like this is a draft where you have to wait until the draft
• 1:37:24
  is done to feel better or best about the whole draft, because I could
• 1:37:28
  see a pick happening in round one that people are like, why would you
• 1:37:31
  do that? And then you see the way the rest of the board falls
• 1:37:33
  and out things come together, and all of a sudden it looks so a
• 1:37:35
  little better. Rowdy saying, I'm happy as long as we steal Javon Baker.
• 1:37:40
  I've been banging that drum since before the Senior Bowl. I'm not coming
• 1:37:44
  off of that. Cammorey says, you know QB would piss you off too.
• 1:37:46
  Absolutely, I would not be a fan of that, although I don't
• 1:37:49
  know if that means like we trade the Bills, traded Josh Allen, and
• 1:37:53
  somehow I ended up with like one, like they traded Josh Allen to the
• 1:37:55
  Bears and then they took Caleb Williams. Like, I don't know, I
• 1:37:58
  could get excited for that A little bit. Part of the k intrigues me.
• 1:38:00
  I'm like, you know, cass is the ladder game with thrones,
• 1:38:01
  all that kind of stuff. Oh Miller for Defensive Player of the Year twenty
• 1:38:06
  twenty four, says quees Walker at the end of the second and he says,
• 1:38:10
  book it, m oh Man, that would be uh, that would
• 1:38:15
  be interesting. Where's this coming from? Dennis? I wanted to grab this,
• 1:38:17
  Dennis saying, I worry about the predictability of our top draft need this
• 1:38:20
  year. It's the same situation that yielded Casey getting McDuffie and the Bills getting
• 1:38:26
  Yelim don't that's an old wound, but it feels fresh. Yeah. I
• 1:38:30
  love Trent McDuffie. He I loved him and I wanted him so so bad,
• 1:38:38
  and they got jumped by k C. And now he's turned into an
• 1:38:42
  all pro. Granted it's in the slot, but I think his inside outside
• 1:38:45
  versatility is underestimated. Everything that he does, like dogg and coverage, dog
• 1:38:49
  versus the run Oh. I loved him in the Bills ended up getting Eilim,
• 1:38:53
  but I'm not out on Elim yet. Although I wasn't high on him
• 1:38:57
  getting picked, I had similar Bookie Bashroom type vibe when he was picked.
• 1:39:00
  But I also even within this, Dennis, I don't think. I don't
• 1:39:04
  think our draft, our top draft need is too predictable, Like I don't.
• 1:39:08
  I know receiver is probably the biggest perceived need. I don't think it's
• 1:39:11
  guaranteed that the Bills go receiver, but also even if they do, there's
• 1:39:14
  gonna be a lot of options there. Like I'm not. I thought there
• 1:39:17
  was a significant drop off after Tret McDuffie in that draft class, right,
• 1:39:21
  and my next corner after McDuffie was Roger mccury. It wasn't even Kyrie Eland.
• 1:39:26
  Kyler em wasn't like the second tier like I had a two three on
• 1:39:30
  him because I just wasn't a huge fan. But I don't think there's that
• 1:39:32
  huge drop off at receiver. So if somebody jumps the Bills and so Brian
• 1:39:36
  to I think Brian Thomas is going to go in the top twenty. I
• 1:39:39
  thought that the entire draft, the combine solidified it, so you take the
• 1:39:44
  big three out, you take Brian Thomas out. If somebody jumps the Bills
• 1:39:48
  for Ady Mitchell, I'll be disappointed, But also not because there's still more
• 1:39:51
  receivers, Like there could be six or seven receivers that go in the first
• 1:39:56
  twenty seven picks and there's still gonna be a good receiver available for the Bills
• 1:40:00
  of twenty eight. But also if teams jump the Bills to take receivers,
• 1:40:03
  that means a really good player at either interior offensive line or interior defensive line,
• 1:40:11
  or edge or corner or some other position is going to fall. If
• 1:40:14
  all these receivers go, that means a blue chip prospect is going to fall
• 1:40:16
  from another position. And I'm not horribly down on that because you can still
• 1:40:20
  come back and get a receiver in round two. Right, you could take
• 1:40:24
  Javon Baker at sixty, if you like Javon Baker, and then pair them
• 1:40:28
  with Malik Washington in round four or TOAJ Washington or some kind of combination like
• 1:40:30
  that. Like, there's so many fun possibilities that even though there is that
• 1:40:35
  top need at receiver, particularly X, but in receiver in general, I
• 1:40:41
  don't think it's to the point where somebody jumps them for a receiver, they're
• 1:40:45
  dead in the water and your hands are tied like the Kyrie Whelm. Heere.
• 1:40:49
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• 1:40:53
  signing up for the athletic which is super cheap. Now you do that and
• 1:40:57
  you download the Beast from Dame Brugler. He's there. NFL draft expert.
• 1:41:00
  He's the probably the best in the business. So his draft guide is absolutely
• 1:41:03
  awesome. Russell Brown who used to work for Cover one, who did all
• 1:41:06
  the draft stuff for Cover one, he now does stuff for Fantasy Pros,
• 1:41:11
  So go check out Russ's work. His draft guide is up on Fantasy Pros.
• 1:41:14
  You can search him on Twitter Pops. His handle is at Russ's NFL
• 1:41:17
  Draft and you can find his draft guide. His is awesome. Nate Tice
• 1:41:21
  has one up on Yahoo Sports. That's great, so I check out one
• 1:41:25
  of those. They do a lot of great work. Bills are electrics saying
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  we can't hide that we need a wide receiver. Nothing we can do about
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  it. No, the Bills need multiple wide receivers. But again I still
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  think within that they can still address other positions of need that can mitigate kind
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  of how disappointed they are that they maybe didn't get the receiver that they covered
• 1:41:45
  it. But it's gonna be interesting to see what they do. Walter says,
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  if we had McDuffie, we'd still be looking for outside CB, but
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  now we'd have two slot cbs. I think McDuffie moved into the slot because
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  of what they had on the outside and because they needed him to go into
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  the slot. And granted, I know he's a shorter arm guy and a
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  smaller dude, he fits there. He plays a decent amount of outside corner
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  for this team, especially when they're in two corner looks. He was on
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  the outside and Lagerius Sneed was on the outside. Again. I know he's
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  known as That's why I prefaced it with like him being like a slot corner
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  and kind of taking that role. But he's somebody who I believed could be
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  an outside corner and he still functions from time to time in those roles for
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  Kansas City based on the looks that they have. But yeah, so even
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  so, even Trent McDuffie last year, he had six hundred and eight snaps
• 1:42:43
  in the slot, three hundred and sixty eight at outside corner. The previous
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  year he had two hundred and forty seven in the slot, five hundred and
• 1:42:50
  thirty six at outside corner, so his career snaps slot eight fifty five,
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  outside corner nine hundred and four. He truly is an inside outside piece.
• 1:42:59
  He just functioned in the slot because that's what they needed more and he excelled
• 1:43:02
  there. But he can play outside. Rowdy says, what do you think
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  about Cooper Degen at twenty eight? I don't hate it. I don't love
• 1:43:10
  it. I like Cooper Degene, but I also don't love Cooper Degene.
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  I think he is kind of that jack of all trades guy hit. The
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  stiffness in his hips or the tightness in his hips, and the average reaction
• 1:43:20
  speed worries me a little bit. I talked about it when I had Dane
• 1:43:24
  Brugler on the show last week for the special edition of Disguy's coverage. I
• 1:43:29
  like him, but I also don't I also love him as a tackler.
• 1:43:31
  I don't think he's aggressive enough or consistent enough as a tackler, which is
• 1:43:34
  why I don't want to move into safety. I don't really know what to
• 1:43:35
  do with him. He can kind of do everything, but also kind of
• 1:43:40
  maybe not, so he's an enigma to me a little bit. I wouldn't
• 1:43:44
  hate it because I trust McDermot to coach him up. Giving his skill set
• 1:43:46
  and how varied it is and all the traits that he has, I wouldn't
• 1:43:49
  hate it, but I don't love it. Oh Black Panthers saying Ady Mitchell
• 1:43:56
  and Jalen Polker demon Baker pairing. That's a very fun one, Johnny Max
• 1:44:05
  and I wonder if every franchise is like this, we hate everyone we have.
• 1:44:09
  Every franchise is like this. Go back to Kansas City Chiefs Twitter or
• 1:44:13
  Chiefs Reddit. In the middle of the twenty twenty three season, they wanted
• 1:44:15
  to burn the entire team to the ground or go back to before Andy Reid
• 1:44:18
  won his first Super Bowl with Mahomes. Chiefs fans wonted Andy Reid's head on
• 1:44:23
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• 1:48:53
  No, I'm not going to Detroit. Scheduling stuff just didn't align for me
• 1:48:58
  with day job things and life in general. I'm also not I like being
• 1:49:03
  at home. I'm a homebody for games in general, but especially the Draft.
• 1:49:06
  I like to sit in my element and be able to have everything in
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