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David Kaplan talks Bears & Cubs plus Rizzo retirement, Pete Fiutak on College Football and Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  I'm Mary Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Momentarily David Kaplan from ESPN 1000.
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  Chicago we go. He's the cap man.
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  He joins us Capper Trenton Ken, good to talk to you.
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  I can only imagine what it was like to be, you know, talk show
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  host in Chicago. The 1st show morning drive on
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  Tuesday morning where you sit on ESPN 1000 had to be active cap.
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  Yeah, when you start at 6:00 AM and you walk in and every single
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  line, full rack of calls, as I like to say, everybody waiting
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  to blast Caleb, to blast Ben Johnson, to blast Ryan Polls.
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  Yeah, they get paid a lot of money, all of them.
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  So they got to wear it. It is what it is.
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  Frustrating to no end, up 17-6 after the pick six.
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  There were a lot of decisions in the game.
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  Ben Johnson has been described by many as one of the smartest
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  minds out there. Didn't have a good debut, A
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  questionable decision to challenge a guy that was clearly
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  down, missing and not going with the field goal opportunity.
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  There's a lot there. How How would you rate Ben
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  Johnson's first performance? I thought he was a really good
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  offensive coordinator and a bad head coach.
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  Yeah, fair. You know, I just and I like him.
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  I'm glad he's the head coach of the Bears.
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  Going to take time. And I was reading the Joe Gibbs
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  Hall of Famer. Joe Gibbs started, oh, I think
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  in five in his career with the Washington Redskins.
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  And he said he walked into Jack Kent Cook's office, his owner,
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  and he said, were you going to fire me?
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  This was after they had gotten the thing turned around and he
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  goes, was I going to fire you? I was firing your ass and
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  somebody talked me out of it. He said 100%.
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  He's like, I was just getting started.
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  He goes, well, I was paying you a lot of money and I didn't
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  think you were doing a good job. So, you know, look, I think the
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  next shoe to drop and I like Caleb, you know that.
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  I think he's got a world of talent.
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  But I think the next shoe to drop is that you're going to
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  start to hear calls for Tyson. They couldn't.
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  Agree. More They don't get this thing
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  turned around pretty quickly. I'm just telling you, if this
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  kid can't execute what Ben Johnson wants now, what Caleb
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  Williams wants, what Ben Johnson wants, he's getting $65 million
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  to be the head coach of the Chicago Bears and every cent of
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  it is guaranteed. So if he can't execute like on
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  the 4th and three when they went for it early in the game.
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  I. Thought it was a yeah.
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  I thought it was a foolish decision.
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  I did. I said it before the play
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  because I'm not a results oriented guy.
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  I'm a process oriented guy. If you told me my quarterback
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  was Matthew Stafford, OK, you can take a shot.
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  Take a shot. If you told me my quarterback
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  was Patrick Mahomes, Burrow, I mean, pick any of the really
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  good, obviously Josh Allen, Mahomes, the top guys to pick a
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  solid veteran court. My quarterback was Kirk Cousins.
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  OK, you want to take a shot? He's been around a long time.
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  Caleb hasn't earned that right. And it's seven to three.
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  I need the points. Give me the field goal.
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  Let's not be stupid here, but in Ben's defense, he schemed up a
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  good play. DJ Moore is wide open and Caleb
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  misses them. That can't happen.
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  Nope, Nope. The scripted plays, Cap they ran
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  them to the letter seemingly, but once they ran out of
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  scripted plays, it started to go downhill.
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  At that point for for Caleb Williams, it's just he's just
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  not accurate. Cap, how does he get more
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  accurate? Can that be done?
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  I don't know, I don't know. He looks so frantic, frenetic in
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  the pocket, he looks off and I don't know why.
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  And look the throat of Roma Doonese on the sideline when he
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  was running towards the right sideline.
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  Elite, elite. That was just there's three or
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  four people in the world that can make that throw.
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  That's a fact. But when you miss DJ Moore down
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  the left sideline, when you miss the 4th and three.
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  And I went back and I did it again today.
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  So I've been watching multiple days.
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  I want to clear my head. Maybe I'm, you know, emotional
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  over the loss or I'm biased about this.
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  So I got up early this morning. We're on at six.
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  I got up at 3:56 and I grabbed my laptop and here we go.
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  Let's put my game Pass on You go back and can watch early in the
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  game. He has one where he's in the
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  pocket. He's going through his
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  progression at the top of your screen.
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  Anyone can do this. Just look.
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  He's got DJ covered. Well, if he would take his next
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  read, that's not there. He goes back across the field
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  and looks at DJ again. There's no one within 20 yards
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  of them, nobody close. He could have run all day.
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  He never, ever looked at it. He checked it down and they
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  picked up a couple 3-4 yards and I'm like, how did you miss that
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  guy? Like that's your primary target.
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  OK, he was covered. You've got to go back and look
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  at make a second read there. Then he has Colston Loveland in
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  motion. And if you watch the Lions play,
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  usually the motion guy is going to get a really, really good
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  opportunity to build up a head of steam and get a good deep
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  run. And Colston Loveland is wide
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  open and he never looks out. So those are the things Ben
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  Johnson's not going to tolerate. Hey man, I schemed you open a 40
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  yard gain there, a 25 yard gain there and you did nothing with
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  it. So we'll see.
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  But I'm just telling you they're going to Detroit.
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  They need a win. The Lions, they got embarrassed
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  by the Packers. What if they beat you and then
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  you come home that Dallas games, no layup almost beat the Eagles.
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  OK, what if you lose that one, you're all in three.
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  The Raiders are want to know everyone's like well, we'll go
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  to Vegas and win and have a good time.
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  Really. You sure about that?
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  You could roll into the by. Oh, and four, you could and if
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  you're owing for it to buy and he that kid doesn't play well, I
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  would not be stunned if Ben Johnson went screw you guys,
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  Beijing, you're starting. And if that plays out, look out.
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  It's going to be there's going to be a lot of ammunition out
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  there, cap. Before that, though, you
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  mentioned the Lions game in front of them walking wounded
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  unit out there, missing your top quarterback Jaylen Johnson was
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  out when your top linebackers were out the game.
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  Then injuries that happened throughout the quarter, of
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  course of that. Health wise, where are the Bears
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  here in this early moment? And they have an early bye this
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  year in Week 5, but want to get to that point at least with a
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  win or two. How are they looking injury
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  wise? Not great.
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  I mean, your number one cornerback, Jalen Johnson, who
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  is an all Pro, he's didn't play. Your number one linebacker, TJ
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  Edwards, he didn't play. Your number one slot corner, top
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  three at his position in the NFL, Tyler Gordon, he didn't
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  play. And then maybe he's not
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  starting, but he might be your best pass rusher because Montez
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  Sweat looks like he belongs on a milk carton.
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  Austin Booker, he's on injury reserve for at least three or
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  four, I think 4 weeks. So that's four of your top,
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  we'll call it top 15 defenders. That's not good, man.
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  That is not good. You done with the bears threats.
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  Dale. Are there questions for CAP?
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  OK. Not overall.
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  Well I I feel like I'm over as a fan, but I'll be still cheery
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  for him. Absolutely.
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  Cap before we get into the Cubs and where they're at right now,
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  obviously the big Cubs story of the day, Anthony Rizzo, the face
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  of that 2016 World Series winner, he's going to be
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  honored. He's officially retiring and
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  will be honored at Wrigley Field on Saturday.
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  When you think of Anthony Rizzo, I know he got you.
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  What did seemingly was never going to happen in your lifetime
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  and didn't happen, sadly, in a lot of people's lifetime, an
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  integral part of that World Series championship team.
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  I think he's the face. How do you remember Anthony
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  Rizzo? One of my favorite guys that I
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  dealt with, I came to him at 20, I want to say 15.
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  And I said and I, I was around there every day.
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  So I did the pre and the post. So their families are watching
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  me. So I became friends with Riz and
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  he did all his cancer charities, his cook off for cancer.
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  I was the MC every year. Every year Cap, I want you to MC
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  it. I mean, we had a great
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  relationship. So that's how I choose to
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  remember him as what a good guy he was to deal with.
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  And then I went to him in 2015. I said, how about we do a weekly
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  show? We'll pay you and we'll do a
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  weekly show. He's like, I don't know.
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  I said, Rizz, you're with me, man.
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  We can promote your charity stuff.
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  And he's like, all right, I'll do it.
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  And so we did. And he would get on and he
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  wouldn't say a lot. And one day I'm at the ballpark.
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  He's like, hey, how's the show going today?
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  What do you think? I said, I thought it sucked.
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  He's like, what? I said, dude, you got to say say
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  something. Come on, man, You got opinions
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  on everything? He's like, yeah, I don't want to
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  put all those out there. I'm like, just give me
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  something. So the next week I said, Riz,
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  you see this article in the paper about, you know, the
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  length of the season some people feel is too long.
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  And he said it is too long. He said it is.
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  He said, oh, yeah, the season's way too long, we should cut it
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  down. I said, well, bro, if they cut
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  the season down, you guys are going to get paid less.
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  That mean everything's tied to how many commercial breaks in a
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  game, how many games you play. He said, we make too much money
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  anyway, that no problem, they should cut it down.
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  He hung up with me and we tweeted out his quote.
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  It was the front page of the USA TODAY the next morning and he
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  said the head of the union called him.
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  Have you lost your blanket mind? What are you doing?
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  We're trying to get a collective bargaining agreement done and
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  you're saying we make too much money?
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  Are you crazy? Sees me at the ballpark that
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  next night sees me. He's like, hey, don't you ever
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  tell me to say something controversial again.
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  I'm getting destroyed. By.
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  Players by media, everybody's killing me and the union's mad.
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  So that's probably the funny story that I remember.
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  Anthony Rizzo, the face to you of the 2016 Cubs World Series
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  team. 100 percent, 100% it's not Chris Bryant.
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  Chris was a hell of a player and a great person, but he was a
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  quiet, you know, player. He played Anthony Rizzo.
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  Man, what that dude gave to our community.
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  He's a cancer survivor, and then he gave back by going to Lurie
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  Children's Hospital on a regular basis.
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  The money he raised and the donations and things that he
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  helped either bring to them or do himself.
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  Yeah, that dude's the face of our 2016 team is.
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  There a place for him in management cap.
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  I'm not saying it's a skipper, but you know, front office type
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  ambassador. I mean, maybe they maybe they
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  can use them in some type of a consultant role.
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  I don't think he wants to work that hard.
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  I don't. He made a ton of money.
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  That's A&B. If you're Rizzo, you're living
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  in Florida. You got a great life down there.
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  That's his where he's from. He loves Florida.
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  Who wouldn't? I'd move to Florida if I could
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  do it. I can't.
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  But no, I don't. I don't see him doing that, at
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  least not now. He just, he has like a four
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  month old. I don't see him getting that
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  involved. I see him, you know, getting a
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  place in Chicago, like a condo, flying in here as his
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  ambassador, do a little broadcasting and go home to
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  Emily and the kids. Maybe he's put on a uniform of
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  spring training for a couple of weeks, you know, right?
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  Yeah, in spring training, yeah. Shake some hands, hit some pot,
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  flies to some guys out there. Cop Tucker to the here and now.
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  Placed on the 10 one day injured list with the left calf strain.
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  This is back to September 2nd. Hasn't played since then.
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  Ken come off the injured list on the 16th.
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  So just six days away from that calf.
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  Just a weird situation. Fill us in and where you are
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  with Cal Tucker. Yeah, I was talking with
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  somebody today just about him and you know, what are we
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  getting from Kyle Tucker? You know, everyone says it was
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  his hand was broken and that's why he was struggling.
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  Well, he injured the hand on the 2nd of June, I believe is the
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  date. Go look at his numbers for the
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  month of June. If you do like just put in Kyle
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  Tucker splits and then ESPN will break down by month, last seven
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  days, 1530, whatever. Go look at his June numbers.
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  They're outstanding. So why all of a sudden, when
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  July hit, that dude looked literally inept at the plate.
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  He was horrible. Why?
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  I don't know. But if I was the president of
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  the Cubs, Jed Hoyer, and I had to make a decision in the
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  offseason and it was 10 years, $400 million or some, you know,
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  absurd amount, I'm not sure I would give that to him.
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  Would I do a three-year deal with opt outs and pay him really
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  well, 40 whatever million a year?
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  Sure, yeah, I'd roll the dice because he's 29 turning 30 and
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  he's a really good player. Really good.
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  But what? I guarantee that guy based on
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  what I've seen this year. 40 million a year for 10 years?
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  No, I would not. Since July 19th, PCA, he's had
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  hit two home runs. He was 26.
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  Now he's got 28. But his defense is outstanding,
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  gets on base, he's going to steal the bag for you.
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  So you cut him some slack. But say Suzuki, on that same
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  day, he was a 26 home runs. He's all the way up now to 27.
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  It's just remarkable Cap the the collapse, the power shortage
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  that Suzuki is continuing to experience.
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  And this isn't like, you know, one or two weeks.
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  This is about six or seven weeks.
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  What's going on with Suzuki Cap? I mean, he looks healthy.
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  He does. I don't know what is going on
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  with Saya. I don't.
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  He looks healthy. He runs well, he swings hard.
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  He's muscled up. Why all of a sudden he is inept
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  in the power department, I don't know.
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  I can't figure it out. People keep going.
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  Can they turn this back on in the playoffs?
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  It's not like a faucet. You don't just turn it back on.
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  Why he looks so bad? Why that team?
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  You know, they face Bryce Elder twice in the last six days.
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  That dude looks like he's, you know, Tarik Schuble against
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  them. He's got an ERA on near 5.
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  I can't figure them out. Offensively I can't.
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  All right, Cap, we go to game three of the wild card round
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  against the Padres and it's set up 7th, 8th, 9th inning.
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  What's the bullpen look like? Everybody is eligible to pitch.
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  There's no pitch limit, anything like that.
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  You got it set up. Cubs are clinging to A43 lead as
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  we go to the bullpen. Everybody available, set it up.
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  How does this look that no one lefty righty match?
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  789. 789 OK. Wow.
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  And we have the lead. Up.
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  A run up a run. Up a run, 7th, 8th night,
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  depending on who's batting for the project.
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  Let's assume that they have lefties coming up in the 7th.
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  So I will have Caleb Theobar ready to go in the 7th and then
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  in the eighth. Wow, because I'm closing with
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  Keller. Not a boy, I like it.
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  I'm closing with Brad Keller. Daniel, for whatever reason, he
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  just doesn't look right to me. He's on the injured list, but I
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  was told today it's more of a reset and it's not like a
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  serious structural injury. So if that's the case and he
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  needs a reset and I'm 3 1/2 weeks from playing post season
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  baseball and my guy needs a reset, how's he going to be when
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  there's 42,000 maniacs at Wrigley and I'm clinging to A43
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  lead in the 7th? I know they can go to Mason
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  Miller. I know they can go to Robert
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  Suarez. I don't have those guys.
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  I do have Keller and so I'm closing with Keller.
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  Could I use Palencia for a tough right-hander?
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  But I don't think I'm starting the 8th inning with him.
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  I don't know how much I trust him right now.
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  You mentioned the lefty I. Guess I don't know.
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  That's my problem with what the Cubs did at the deadline.
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  You know, and I keep hearing from people, someone over there
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  today called me and said, dude, do you know what the prices were
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  for? Not in terms of cash, in terms
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  of player capital like I was told by somebody who I know who
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  works for the Nationals. And it lined up with what I was
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  told by the Cubs. They wanted Mackenzie Gore
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  desperately. He's a really good pitcher.
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  You should want it. Well, the price was Matt Shaw,
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  Kate Horton, Ash and Wiggins or Owen Katie are.
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  They nuts. Yes.
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  I wouldn't do that either. I understand.
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  That's why no starting pitchers moved.
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  That's why. OK, I'm cool with that.
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  But you're telling me Griffin Jack should be pitching for the
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  Tampa Bay Rays? And you're telling me Ryan
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  Helsley and the three guys the Yankees got and a Joanne Duran,
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  like all Mason Miller, like all these guys got moved.
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  And once again, Chicago plays second fiddle and we get Andrew.
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  Kitchen who I like, Cap I like. Kittridge I like.
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  Kittridge. He's fine.
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  Do you want Andrew Kittridge facing Fernando Tatis with A1
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  run lead? I don't.
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  Over Palencia right now, maybe. Well, yeah, because that's,
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  that's the options I'm giving you.
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  I'm bringing you to my ice cream stand and down the street they
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  got 31 flavors and I, I you've got vanilla and chocolate.
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  What do you want? Yeah, Fairpoint.
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  Porter Hodge, can he get back in the mix?
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  I I can't quit Porter Hodge. I don't know why.
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  He can't get in the mix for high leverage playoff baseball.
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  No, not, Not now, Absolutely not would.
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  You. I just can't quit him.
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  There's something about him. I think it's there still.
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  They just need to untap it. Yeah, he might be a guy
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  somebody's pitch counts up there.
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  You need an out in the 5th inning.
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  That's more Porter Hodge, I think.
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  Yeah. Cap, you've been generous for
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  your time, brother. We, we don't want to continue to
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  keep you here. We're going on 25 minutes.
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  Thank you for doing. Well, you're my guys.
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  Whatever you need, I'm always. Here.
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  Thanks, buddy. We'll talk to you.
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  We'll talk to you next week. See you Kapper.
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  You got it. Yeah, Talk to you.
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  David Kaplan, We talked Chicago Sports, ESPN 1000 and his
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  YouTube channel. He's got really good recaps.
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  I meant to rib him a little bit, but he's probably not ribbing
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  him. He's got, I don't know, a dozen
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  sponsors. It's a.
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  Anyways, looks like an outfield fence in minor League Baseball.
• 20:59
  That bullpen does not exactly remind you of the Royals with
• 21:03
  Herrera, Davis and Holland, does it?
• 21:05
  That was that was a 789, wasn't it?
• 21:07
  My God, that was automatic. Just get me 6.
• 21:10
  I'll get you. So when it went bad for Palencia
• 21:13
  and Palencia was so good when he first got it and seemingly the
• 21:16
  All Star break maybe. About, yeah.
• 21:18
  You can draw a deep line of demarcation there, but it hasn't
• 21:21
  been good since. I think it's got to be Brad
• 21:23
  Keller. I think it's Keller.
• 21:25
  I like Kittridge. I like Kittridge.
• 21:28
  He's fine. He's.
• 21:29
  OK, he's better than fine. A small sample size with the
• 21:34
  cups. He's fine, yes.
• 21:36
  Need a little look, a little bit more than the, what, 10
• 21:39
  appearances he's made in a cup? Yeah, probably.
• 21:41
  That's probably about right. All right, 1:25, we'll take our
• 21:44
  break. Trench plays of the day are
• 21:45
  still to come. Who's pitching?
• 21:48
  Oh, Jameson Tylon for the Cubs tonight, and he's going against
• 21:51
  Chris Sale. Pretty, pretty good.
• 21:54
  Tuesdays and Wednesdays are for baseball.
• 21:55
  God, I enjoyed the hell out of it last night.
• 21:57
  I really did finished up watching the the Cardinals their
• 22:01
  series. We'll do that again tonight, but
• 22:03
  we'll take a time out, come back, Trent and I will kick some
• 22:06
  stuff. Around we got Pete Futek.
• 22:08
  Oh, we do. I didn't realize that.
• 22:09
  Pete Futek is next. Miller and Condon, the Iowa
• 22:12
  Sports Radio Network. Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome
• 22:14
  back. Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 22:16
  Trent Condon, Ken Miller with you till the top of the hour.
• 22:19
  Coming up at that time off the bench, Sean Roberts, Lucas
• 22:23
  Strain, Pete futekcollegefootballnews.com.
• 22:26
  Pete, thanks for giving us a few minutes here.
• 22:28
  Always appreciate your time. Let's let me ask you this right
• 22:32
  out of this shoot here. What team did you would you
• 22:35
  maybe like to have a do over on for?
• 22:38
  I miss Clemson. I thought they were going to be
• 22:39
  really good. I'm not sure they are.
• 22:41
  Do you have a team like that, Pete?
• 22:44
  Wow. OK, they Clemson, actually I
• 22:47
  actually they are who I thought they were.
• 22:48
  I mean, everyone loved them because they knew who Kate.
• 22:50
  Klobnick was exactly Yep. And they had all the returning
• 22:53
  talent. But it's not like I I couldn't
• 22:55
  convince anybody this offseason that the offseason this team is
• 23:00
  not the Trevor Lawrence, you know, teams of past years, they
• 23:04
  don't have the defensive tackle. It's just not as good as those
• 23:09
  national championship teams where they still might be.
• 23:11
  I mean, they still could be in the mix here for, you know, the,
• 23:14
  you know, with the ACC title and everything else.
• 23:17
  I am. I don't want to South Florida
• 23:19
  because I thought they'd be good.
• 23:20
  I didn't think they'd beat Florida, but OK.
• 23:23
  I guess Florida State at the moment until proven otherwise
• 23:27
  after what they did to Alabama. And but yeah, I think so far
• 23:32
  it's been a little, you know, it's been kind of these teams
• 23:36
  are who we thought they've been. They would be, but it's just
• 23:40
  there has, there's so many teams kind of jumbled up at the top
• 23:43
  that I'm not quite certain that Ohio State should be all and all
• 23:47
  #1 And so there's still 5 or 6 teams that are still right in
• 23:50
  the mix for big things. We still will get a look at
• 23:53
  Notre Dame for just the second time this year, and then after
• 23:55
  that, that schedule eases up in a big time way outside of the
• 23:59
  matchup against maybe USC, perhaps Pit on the road in
• 24:02
  November. Not a whole lot of intrigue with
• 24:05
  them if the Irish don't get it done here though.
• 24:08
  How concerned should Irish fans be at O and Two, even with 10
• 24:12
  very winnable games after it, about being a playoff team?
• 24:15
  Massive, unless it's a really, really close game and depending
• 24:20
  on what Miami and Texas A&M do from there, because if Miami
• 24:23
  wins the ACC title, that was actually a pretty good loss.
• 24:27
  I mean, it was on the road. It was, you know, the tough
• 24:30
  atmosphere. It's Week 1.
• 24:32
  And if Miami's really that good, they they look to park, but they
• 24:37
  need to win this. I just they're better than Texas
• 24:40
  A&M. And if they can just they've had
• 24:42
  the two weeks off. And if you know, they give the
• 24:45
  ball to Love more early on, which everyone dogged in Notre
• 24:49
  Dame for the running game and not giving the ball to the best
• 24:51
  player on the field besides Carson Beck and that.
• 24:55
  But like the plan just didn't work.
• 24:57
  The idea and everyone forgets that he only got yet hurt, but
• 25:00
  he only got like 14 carries in last year's game against Texas
• 25:03
  A&M. They don't overuse Jeremiah
• 25:05
  Love. They kind of put they kind of
• 25:07
  save him as the closer at the end.
• 25:10
  And the problem with the Miami game is didn't have that chance
• 25:12
  because they got behind. So then was too late.
• 25:16
  They tried to give him to get in the passing game.
• 25:17
  So I think you're going to see Love in the running game early
• 25:20
  on. I do think this is going to be
• 25:22
  the Notre Dame team that we thought it was going to be that
• 25:24
  good. I I think they take care of
• 25:26
  Texas. Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
• 25:28
  Numbers just under I think a touchdown last time last last I
• 25:31
  look, Pete, yesterday one of your columns going around
• 25:34
  college football, you mentioned Big 12 expansion and should we
• 25:37
  get to that point and seemingly we will at some point and you
• 25:40
  think the two candidates that should be looked at South
• 25:44
  Florida off to a terrific start and that that gives somebody,
• 25:48
  you know, some company to those Florida, Florida competition,
• 25:51
  UCF, etcetera, bring in West Virginia, the mix, et cetera.
• 25:54
  I like that. And you and LV for a number of
• 25:57
  reasons and I couldn't agree with you more on that one.
• 26:01
  What's the likelihood that those are toward the top of the list,
• 26:04
  should the Big 12 be looking to expand?
• 26:07
  At the very least, UNLV is there.
• 26:08
  UNLV has not. Why didn't go to the PAC 12?
• 26:10
  Because it's holding out for the Big 12.
• 26:12
  And I throw San Diego State in the mix, too.
• 26:15
  And remember, it's not just about on field play.
• 26:19
  It just makes the optics look better.
• 26:21
  Like at this point, if you've got a USF team that, you know,
• 26:24
  that blows up Boise State and then beats Florida, well then,
• 26:28
  OK, yeah, that looks like a program that could happen.
• 26:30
  But it's a monster school. I mean, it's a lot of commuters,
• 26:33
  but huge enrollment. It's in Tampa, big city, big TV
• 26:38
  market, eventually recruiting area for Florida, again, like
• 26:42
  you said, matches up just fine with UCF.
• 26:45
  It's just a natural fit. Everyone wants Las Vegas and you
• 26:49
  know, everyone wants their media days there, their championship
• 26:51
  games there. It's now become kind of a hub
• 26:53
  for college sports. It's what the PAC 12 was going
• 26:55
  to use for. It's, you know, basically what
• 26:58
  the SEC As for Atlanta when before it all blew up.
• 27:02
  So that's just a program that just that makes a lot of sense.
• 27:05
  There's not a huge base of UNLV fans there when it comes to
• 27:10
  football. But that's not the point.
• 27:12
  You have that there because Big 10, Big 12 fans will certainly
• 27:15
  want to travel to Vegas for the UNLV game.
• 27:19
  Big match up on The CW. You mentioned South Florida
• 27:23
  earlier. I don't think The CW thought
• 27:24
  they were going to get something like this.
• 27:26
  I'll be honest that, you know, flip over last year, I think
• 27:29
  they've done a good job for this kind of new four way into things
• 27:32
  and these ACC games. They've done a good job, but
• 27:34
  didn't think they were probably going to get a rank match up
• 27:36
  when they got this one with South Florida.
• 27:39
  What the Bulls have done here these first two weeks.
• 27:42
  Oh, I it's a tough one. It's awful.
• 27:45
  They just they're not used. I'm the complete opposite.
• 27:49
  It's not like they are used to doing game and you can kind of
• 27:54
  tell it's a very cookie cutter. They didn't really know their
• 27:57
  stuff for Washington State, San Diego State.
• 28:01
  It just it's I, I don't know it, it feels a little, you know, JV
• 28:06
  to me, but. Maybe it's watching games on
• 28:08
  Jefferson Pilot and Raycon back in the day.
• 28:09
  I'm OK with it. Yeah, you know, the big time
• 28:13
  announcers and stuff that was all right with that.
• 28:15
  But yeah, they get one that people are going to pay
• 28:17
  attention to because look, if South Florida pulls this off, or
• 28:21
  at least they're close, they're they're right.
• 28:23
  They're probably going to be that 12th playoff team coming
• 28:26
  from, you know, let's give them a cookie Group of five thing.
• 28:30
  So, yeah, so this is a real test for Miami.
• 28:33
  They're certainly done on alert here because this is not just a
• 28:38
  layup game. And South Florida's got, they've
• 28:40
  got guys, they've got a system, they got a quarterback, they got
• 28:42
  a coach. And it's a, it's a, it should be
• 28:45
  one of the more fun games of the weekend.
• 28:47
  Oregon, what did they show you when they're dismantling over
• 28:50
  Oklahoma State? Are they?
• 28:51
  Are they back to where they were?
• 28:54
  Yeah, they're still great. I mean that there might be my
• 28:57
  redo question. I thought Oklahoma State would
• 28:58
  bounce back and be, you know, they're only a year removed from
• 29:01
  being 10 win A10 win team and right in the mix for, you know,
• 29:06
  Big 12 championships and everything.
• 29:08
  And last year it was really more about injuries.
• 29:10
  I mean, they, they had suffered a slew of of close losses.
• 29:15
  They were they had a bunch of 1 score defeats until late and
• 29:18
  then they couldn't get their quarterback situation right and
• 29:21
  just everyone got hurt on the offensive line.
• 29:23
  So it's like, OK, this is easily fixable.
• 29:25
  I actually was stupid enough to think that that was a not only
• 29:29
  would Oklahoma State be what easy cover, but that's, that was
• 29:32
  like a real pie in the sky, you know, money line thought.
• 29:35
  And that got ended in about two drives.
• 29:38
  So Oregon looked explosive. It looks great and let's see
• 29:41
  what they got going forward. But yeah, they look fantastic so
• 29:44
  far. It is a brutal slate overall in
• 29:47
  the Big 10, but there is a big, I love it.
• 29:50
  I'm intrigued. USC, who has looked incredible
• 29:53
  offensively against Purdue, Barry Odom, well, he's a grown
• 29:56
  up, right? And that's what they needed to
• 29:58
  maybe rebuild that Purdue ship of what they having there.
• 30:02
  Am I crazy to think that not Purdue's going to win this game,
• 30:05
  but slow track, maybe have that grass a little bit higher
• 30:08
  against those fast USC receivers and hey, middle of the third
• 30:11
  quarter, we got a ball game. Am I crazy?
• 30:13
  No, you're not crazy. It's they'll they'll be a little
• 30:15
  better. And again, that's another
• 30:16
  program that everyone forgets. It wasn't all that terribly long
• 30:20
  ago that Purdue is playing for the Big 10 Championship.
• 30:23
  And there it's not the the era of Jeff Rahm anymore.
• 30:27
  And obviously they've gone in the tank before you're rising
• 30:29
  back up, but they're at least competent now.
• 30:32
  I'm really interested in the USC because they, they didn't play
• 30:36
  anybody great to start the season, certainly.
• 30:39
  But they played some teams that can, you know, Missouri State,
• 30:41
  blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but they, they've got a
• 30:43
  big 10 bomber who's there who can throw.
• 30:45
  And their pass rush has been great in the first two games.
• 30:49
  And their offense has been razor sharp and explosive.
• 30:52
  I don't know if this means that they've got it now, but it's a
• 30:55
  it just looked the part like they're supposed to over 2
• 30:58
  games. I do think USC wins and they
• 31:01
  pull away later, but I don't think it's going to be some, you
• 31:04
  know, total blowout. And if it is, then I think
• 31:07
  that's more about USC than it is about Purdue.
• 31:10
  My last thing for you who's the best team in the Big 12?
• 31:14
  And it's look, I would say it's great that it also helps that
• 31:19
  Turk parents decided to play that game to lose, which just if
• 31:24
  the Iowa fans, I know we're just just through the floor.
• 31:27
  It's like, yes, what are you doing?
• 31:29
  You know, why try try to win again?
• 31:32
  The anti Dan Campbell thing happening there and they gave it
• 31:35
  to Iowa State. That was just great.
• 31:38
  They really are good. They look at their schedule.
• 31:41
  That is a potential College Football Playoff that's a 10 and
• 31:45
  2:00-ish, you know, at worst maybe 11 and one possible.
• 31:49
  But Utah's absolutely for real. They Devin Dampier is fantastic.
• 31:54
  He is a as long as he's not throwing interceptions, which he
• 31:57
  did at New Mexico, mainly because they had to keep trying
• 31:59
  to come back. He's one of the most dynamic
• 32:02
  playmakers in the country. And that's the team that last
• 32:04
  year went in the tank because they couldn't get their
• 32:06
  quarterback situation right again.
• 32:08
  Now they got one, but their lines are terrific.
• 32:11
  I am. I'm all in thinking that Utah is
• 32:14
  kind of what the team we thought they'd be last year.
• 32:16
  Collegefootballnews.com. collegefootballnews.com for Pete
• 32:20
  Futech. Pete, thank you.
• 32:22
  Yep. Good to talk to you, Pete.
• 32:23
  futechcollegefootballnews.com. All right, Trans plays of the
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• 32:31
  I'm Millery Condon. Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio
• 32:34
  Network. Our final segment here on a
• 32:37
  Wednesday coming up at the top of the hour off the bench.
• 32:40
  We'll be here Sean Roberts, Lucas Strain, of course every
• 32:43
  day starts at 6:00 AM radio wise with the first quarter, Alec
• 32:48
  Bussey, Heather Burnside have that three hour block every
• 32:52
  morning from six until 9. Trent's plays of the day are
• 32:56
  coming up. How did you do yesterday by the?
• 32:58
  Way we had a good day. We went four and one return of
• 33:02
  3.1. Loss was the Cardinals.
• 33:04
  Was the Cardinals. Who jumped out to A2?
• 33:06
  Nothing. Lead.
• 33:07
  Yeah, and. I thought maybe we were going to
• 33:09
  cruise to a perfecto, but we'll take those.
• 33:11
  He sacked up some foreign ones. That'll be good.
• 33:13
  Over the last week we are up. That's 30 days, not so much, but
• 33:17
  that's OK. We're looking at the.
• 33:19
  Brain. Let's look at the green and
• 33:21
  let's see if we could get a little bit more green today. 3
• 33:24
  plays in baseball. In fact, two of them start here
• 33:27
  just in a little bit less than an hour away from first pitch in
• 33:31
  San Fran as the Giants welcome in Arizona to complete that.
• 33:36
  And I'm going to go right back to the well again.
• 33:38
  Give me the Giants see more on the bump for them -118 with Sam
• 33:43
  Fran. We will do the same this
• 33:45
  afternoon with the on the West Coast game, Taj Bradley.
• 33:49
  We know Mike Palm's thoughts on Taj Bradley, let's just very
• 33:52
  simply fade him. We will grab Urrena and the
• 33:55
  Angels this afternoon. Lay the price -115 in that one
• 33:59
  and then one more tonight. You know you can be very
• 34:02
  profitable just betting against Paul Skeens.
• 34:04
  No. We're going to try it again.
• 34:06
  Give me the Baltimore Orioles playing better plus 132 at home
• 34:11
  against Skeens in the Pirates. I'm surprised they haven't shut
• 34:15
  him down. I'm there with you.
• 34:17
  What? What are they doing?
• 34:18
  Are we getting close? Has to be Yeah, I I would, I
• 34:20
  would be stunned if he's still final week of the season, if
• 34:23
  he's still towing the rubber. I really would.
• 34:25
  What are you trying to do? You're out of it.
• 34:26
  It's. Not going to help, right?
• 34:28
  This is a massive asset. He's throwing 133 innings.
• 34:31
  I thought it'd be higher than that until I clicked on that so
• 34:34
  well. I thought it.
• 34:35
  Was keep him under 150? Yep.
• 34:36
  Yep, I thought it was. I thought it would be as well,
• 34:39
  so I asked Dame Mazzutani this. I'll ask you Twins fan is is
• 34:44
  Rocco Baldelli in his final weeks as the manager?
• 34:47
  Look, this team has collapsed 4 out of his five seasons as a
• 34:49
  manager, right? I mean.
• 34:51
  You can't keep going over and over and over again.
• 34:55
  I know we say it's OK to do when I was city because he's built up
• 34:58
  some skin. Yes, absolutely.
• 35:00
  But Baldelli, they need a new voice, don't they?
• 35:05
  It's not going to matter. But yeah, you can't bring back a
• 35:09
  guy that teams have fallen apart year after year after year.
• 35:13
  You just can't do it. So I think it's a pretty simple
• 35:15
  equation for him. But yeah, you got to have to
• 35:18
  move on, bring in the next scapegoat and the front office
• 35:22
  will continue the ownership, most importantly, won't do
• 35:25
  anything, won't spend anything, and it'll be a disappointing
• 35:29
  season of baseball coming up in Minnesota because.
• 35:31
  Look at I, I don't think the Tigers are built for, well,
• 35:33
  maybe they are. I mean, Scooble, scooble, right?
• 35:36
  But the other teams in that Division, I, I think the Royals
• 35:39
  one of these years are going to live up to what we think they're
• 35:41
  going to. Do their playoff team last?
• 35:42
  Year they were. They were Cleveland seemingly.
• 35:48
  He's going to be an 8082807983 win team and the White Sox are
• 35:53
  the White Sox that I think their arrow is pointing up.
• 35:56
  But it's going to be another 2-3.
• 35:57
  Years, couple a year, yeah, the build, the rebuild is not there.
• 36:00
  No. But I think I think they need
• 36:02
  some some new blood in the dugout.
• 36:04
  And Rocco Bell Deli and Fortune would probably be the
• 36:07
  skateboard. As you said, he's got plenty of
• 36:09
  opportunities, right? Twins win out.
• 36:11
  They'll finish 500, just 17 straight.
• 36:14
  Win out. 17 straight, get them back to 80.
• 36:18
  One, do you remember what their win total was?
• 36:20
  It had to be 80 something. 83 1/2 I was.
• 36:22
  Going to say low 80s. Yeah, 82 1/2 something right in
• 36:25
  that range. And they, they, they, they're
• 36:28
  already, they're already mathematically eliminated,
• 36:30
  right? Yeah.
• 36:31
  That's bananas. The Twinkies.
• 36:34
  They collapsed this time last year.
• 36:35
  Maybe they'll go on a run. I hope not play for a draft
• 36:39
  pick. You know, at this point, that's
• 36:40
  all you're playing for. All right, good stuff.
• 36:42
  What do we got? Coming up tomorrow, we're going
• 36:44
  to talk to Dave Sinekin. Boy, this Thursday night game.
• 36:47
  What a way to start Thursday Night Football on Amazon.
• 36:49
  I know we had a game last week that was pretty good as well,
• 36:52
  but Al Michaels and Herb St. and Kaylee Hartung and the crew.
• 36:58
  You know, I tell you, every year, week two of the NFL is
• 37:00
  always my favorite week to bet because of the overreaction.
• 37:04
  Have you seen much this week? I don't feel like there's that
• 37:06
  much overreaction in the market that I can get behind.
• 37:10
  What's the second if if we, and I think we do agree, the Eagles
• 37:14
  and the Chiefs the biggest game of the week.
• 37:16
  Oh, absolutely. What's the second biggest?
• 37:18
  Taking Thursday away. Taking Thursday.
• 37:20
  Away. Of Sunday.
• 37:22
  Is it? Is it bears lions?
• 37:24
  Well, it's important just because of the O2 hole.
• 37:26
  Whoever loses is going to be digging themselves out of.
• 37:29
  Yeah, I think he can definitely make a compelling case for that
• 37:32
  one. Yeah, looking through the rest
• 37:34
  of the at least the Sunday slate, I think that's the one.
• 37:37
  Well, how do you feel about the Vikings on Sunday night?
• 37:41
  Too many points. I'm with you.
• 37:45
  Atlanta showed improvement. Let that one slip away.
• 37:49
  I like pecs. Cashman and Van Ginkel, I think,
• 37:52
  are both out for the for the Vikings.
• 37:54
  Harrison Smith going to be back. I know I don't think he is.
• 37:57
  We'll see. We'll talk more about that
• 37:58
  tomorrow. We'll do some NFL.
• 38:00
  Tomorrow, Drake. London's banged up though,
• 38:02
  that's he's been great. All right, Melanie Connor,
• 38:03
  thanks for being with us off the bench.
• 38:05
  Coming up next, Iowa Sports Radio Network.