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S21, #9: The Downfall of Dean · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio Welcome Back. I'm Ben and I'm Ashley
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  Speaker 1: And as we just heard, this is the almost famous
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  Speaker 1: podcast Ashley. Huge week in Bachelorte Nations so crazy, I
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  Speaker 1: honestly had. I was like at the Disney World of
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Weekends this weekend, because first I went to Tahoe
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  Speaker 1: with our producer Amy and Luke Peal and Dean. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, Dean's last name is Googler. It's really hard
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  Speaker 1: to say, so he's just Dean. Yeah. Wait, wait, what's
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  Speaker 1: how do you say his last name? Unglungler Ungler? And
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  Speaker 1: I think, okay, anyways, you had you were with all
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  Speaker 1: four or I guess three of these other people with them.
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  Speaker 1: And then I also went to Jade's baby shower and
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  Speaker 1: that was basically all of my girls from Chris Soul season.
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  Speaker 1: We had a big reunion there. So all this was
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  Speaker 1: back to back. I had seventy two straight hours of
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Family Fund And are you a better person or
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  Speaker 1: worst person because of it? I think I'm a better person.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. It was really fun, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a group of people that I definitely like
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  Speaker 1: there was no wrenches in that. It was just all
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  Speaker 1: my true friends. I don't know who was who was
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  Speaker 1: it Jade's baby? Um, okay, so Carly of course one
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  Speaker 1: of Jade's best friends. So Jade, Carly, Julia, Becca, and
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  Speaker 1: Christina from next season and Danielle l and Jasmine from
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  Speaker 1: next season. We actually didn't have any of your girls
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  Speaker 1: besides Becca there. That's interesting. Why is that? I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: I guess like Jay was just kind of home that
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  Speaker 1: year and she didn't really meet any of those girls. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well that's a good group. I mean, I I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I actually probably only know a quarter of those girls.
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  Speaker 1: But from what I hear from you and and just
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  Speaker 1: when I hear from the Grape find like all those
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  Speaker 1: women are are awesome women. So I imagine it was
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  Speaker 1: a blast. It was so much fun. And Jade is Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I say it every single time somebody brings up Jade.
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  Speaker 1: She is so beautiful and signed out. It's just, uh,
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  Speaker 1: if I could be one girl, I be Jade like
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  Speaker 1: I want her. Her soul is just so sweet, and
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  Speaker 1: the baby that's growing in her has two amazing parents
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  Speaker 1: to look forward to in this life. I agree. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I saw your Instagram and I I when you
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  Speaker 1: said that, I you know, I just took a second
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  Speaker 1: thought back on my friendship with Tanner and just how
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  Speaker 1: great of a friend he's been to me, especially recently.
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  Speaker 1: I actually texted Tanner last week and just said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I just I appreciate him, like in this season of
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  Speaker 1: life for me that isn't exactly ideal. He's just been
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  Speaker 1: a solid foundation and just a good support system. And
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  Speaker 1: then it sounds like Jade is that and more um
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  Speaker 1: and so yeah, this baby that's coming along is not
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  Speaker 1: only coming into a world that's gonna be a little
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  Speaker 1: crazy because it's gonna get a lot of attention, but
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be supported so well by two great people totally.
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  Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned that group message, and I
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  Speaker 1: know you had one going on with the guys for
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  Speaker 1: a little while, but then you threw me in there.
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  Speaker 1: It was you meet Tanner and Jared, and Jared and
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  Speaker 1: I were at the New Kids on the Block concert
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  Speaker 1: during this and I'm just thinking about you know, as
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  Speaker 1: being in this message and we were playing that vacation
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have some of like the three
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  Speaker 1: greatest guy friends ever. I am so blessed to have
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  Speaker 1: you guys there for me, because it's really important for
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  Speaker 1: a girl to have like good guy friends and give
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  Speaker 1: like solid advice that girls can't always help out with.
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  Speaker 1: And it's and it comes from this crazy world that
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  Speaker 1: is the Bachelor, right, I mean, you know we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it before. The Bachelor is uh a really interesting experience.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's hard, it's emotional, it's it's big.
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  Speaker 1: You know a lot of people watch it. But then
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  Speaker 1: at the core of it, you meet some really incredible
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  Speaker 1: people that can relate with you on a different level
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  Speaker 1: and and build a friendship, uh with with us for
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  Speaker 1: hopefully a lifetime. And I know you do that well.
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  Speaker 1: You have been nothing but a great support to so
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  Speaker 1: many in this and I know there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that have done the same to you. Um so
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you had a crazy week full of
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor people. Say, know how much you enjoy that? I do?
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  Speaker 1: I do? I love it. And you know we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have Luke on later in the podcast. And Luke and
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  Speaker 1: I like we've been you know, we've known each other
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  Speaker 1: since September. I've always enjoyed him, but I really got
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  Speaker 1: to know m this weekend, and he is such a
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  Speaker 1: solid guy. He's like the guy who cleans up the
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  Speaker 1: condo before you leave after everybody has made it a
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  Speaker 1: total mess. I mean, is this uh so, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to ask you this yet, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry actually putting you on the spot. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: more datable right now? Dean or Luke? Oh that's a
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  Speaker 1: great question. Okay, Well, I think Dean is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most strikingly beautiful people have ever met. And I
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  Speaker 1: think he's also one of those guys that I could
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  Speaker 1: hang out with forever and I hope and I think
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  Speaker 1: that he would say similar things about me at we
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  Speaker 1: both really enjoyed just like hanging out and goofing off
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  Speaker 1: and just laughing together the entire weekend. But I think
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  Speaker 1: Luke is probably more marriage material or right now. Dean
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  Speaker 1: will definitely be one day. He's got such a sweet
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  Speaker 1: soul and a wonderful personality. He really like, he's very sparkly.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good descriptive word for him, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: when when I think about as a man, what I
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  Speaker 1: want to be described as. But he's sexy, but he's
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  Speaker 1: also sparkly because he's so upbeat and happy and smiley,
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  Speaker 1: and I love that. That's the kind of personality I like.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess right now Luke is he's like entering
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  Speaker 1: that I'm going to take my life more seriously, maybe
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  Speaker 1: think about settling down phase. But he also is very
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  Speaker 1: focused on his work and he's really killing that too.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like and I mean, I think later on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, and this will kind of tease the rest podcast,
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  Speaker 1: we have a great podcast lined up for everybody, um
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  Speaker 1: lot to talk about. We have some really special guests.
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  Speaker 1: But but I also I'm gonna be really interesting because
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  Speaker 1: Rachel let Dean go home this week, and so we're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna expand on it now, but later on the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about why she let him go home?
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  Speaker 1: You know, is he too young? Is he not ready? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What kind of lessons does Dean need to learn? And
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  Speaker 1: then I think we should switch it over to is
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  Speaker 1: Deem the next guy? Is? Is he gonna be the Bachelor?
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  Speaker 1: Coming up? And then Uh, we also have, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: two special guests coming in the studio. Uh, we have
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  Speaker 1: two people. Uh, Ashley and I both really like. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: One is a former Denver native Chase McNary. He's he's
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  Speaker 1: moved on to uh different things. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: they're bigger and better. We'll have to ask him. He's
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  Speaker 1: moved to l A now, uh so he's no longer
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  Speaker 1: in Denver. And then we have Ashley's other weekend partner,
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  Speaker 1: Luke Pell is going to be coming on the podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: So it's packed and we're gonna run through topics as
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  Speaker 1: quickly as we can because we want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that we touch on everything important in Bachelor Nation and
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  Speaker 1: one of those things that you're important, especially for the
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  Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. Hey do you notice I said especially there?
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  Speaker 1: U um is if it sounds a little different Right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually on the phone again. Um, I've had a
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  Speaker 1: crazy week of travel. I've been gone for for two
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  Speaker 1: and a half weeks from Denver. I just got back
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  Speaker 1: to Denver to take care of some business at my
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  Speaker 1: full time job. So I'm actually in the office right now.
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  Speaker 1: You need to talk about everything you've done. Well, I've
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  Speaker 1: done a lot, you know, tournament this weekend I did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty uh I need to brag about
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  Speaker 1: myself for a second act. Um. So every year I
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  Speaker 1: play in a tournament for the Zack Johnson Foundation. Zack
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  Speaker 1: Johnson's a professional golfer, a great guy. He became a
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  Speaker 1: good friend. He has been nothing but supportive of of me,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to be supportive of him. And so
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  Speaker 1: I went and played in his term in Iowa. And
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  Speaker 1: then from there I went and played in UM the
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  Speaker 1: Boys Hope or Boys and Girls Club charity outing in
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  Speaker 1: in Iowa. And from there I then went and played
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  Speaker 1: in the John Deere Classic Pro Am now the John
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  Speaker 1: Deer Classic Program. And before everybody falls asleep on me,
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  Speaker 1: here uh is a professional golf tournament, Okay, And the
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  Speaker 1: day before the professional golf tournament, professionals and amateurs play
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  Speaker 1: together UM on the course of the pro's gonna play
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  Speaker 1: the next day. And you might have seen from my
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  Speaker 1: Instagram because I posted about it that on the last
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  Speaker 1: hole I needed to birdie, legitimate birdie to tie for
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  Speaker 1: the lead, and I made a forty footer to tie
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  Speaker 1: for the lead, and we went on to win the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Love I love the fact that Ben says we went
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  Speaker 1: on to win when it was just really him. That's
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  Speaker 1: how good of a guy is well, And I got
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  Speaker 1: to hang out with an amazing caddy. Her name was Corey.
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  Speaker 1: She actually bid on being my caddy for the day
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  Speaker 1: to support the Boys and Girls Club of Iowa. And
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  Speaker 1: so it was awesome the money with the charity. I
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  Speaker 1: got to hang out with her all day. She stood
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  Speaker 1: there supporting me. When I made the I gave her
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  Speaker 1: the biggest hug. It was such a cool experience. My
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  Speaker 1: parents were there, We met a ton of great people.
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  Speaker 1: Cole Swindell was there with us all weekend. What an
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  Speaker 1: amazing guy. Um he was. So I had a great
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but I was tired. I'm tired because um,
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  Speaker 1: now I get back to Denver and this week, UM
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  Speaker 1: actually heading not to Honduras. Um, that's so awesome. Ten days.
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  Speaker 1: Can you, like, in a couple of thirty seconds, tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody what you do when you're in Honduras. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: coming to join you next time. I want you to.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. So yeah, I go down with
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  Speaker 1: an organization called Humanity and Hope United, and he Many
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  Speaker 1: and Hope and United is a charity that my one
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  Speaker 1: of my best friends started in Honduras. And and the
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  Speaker 1: purpose of Hanna, Hope and United is to really serve
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  Speaker 1: underserved villages. So villages that are remote, they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities. Maybe you've never even seen anybody
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  Speaker 1: outside of their village before. We'll go in and we
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  Speaker 1: don't tell them what they should do. We asked them
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  Speaker 1: what they would like us to do. And so if
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  Speaker 1: they say, hey, we need clean water, hey we need jobs,
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  Speaker 1: or hey we really want a roof on our house,
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  Speaker 1: We'll come back to the States, raise money and then
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  Speaker 1: send a team out to help them get that done.
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  Speaker 1: And so our organization is set up to partner along
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  Speaker 1: side these people, become friends, become family, um with with
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  Speaker 1: everyone in the villages, and grow relationship that will be
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  Speaker 1: sustainable for years to come. And so I'm doing that
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  Speaker 1: this trip. And then on the back end of this trip,
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  Speaker 1: one thing I have to plug. I have to give
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  Speaker 1: a shameless plug out here. Um Riley, the founder of
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  Speaker 1: com Many, Hope Night and another buddy dru Schol and
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  Speaker 1: I had of Warsaw started a company called Generous International.
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  Speaker 1: And Generous International is a company that is set up
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  Speaker 1: to serve people. It's a for profit company that we
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  Speaker 1: currently are selling T shirts and apparel and then coffee.
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  Speaker 1: And this coffee is coming from Honduras, and then all
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  Speaker 1: profits from the cell of coffee or T shirts or
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  Speaker 1: whatever are going back to nonprofits and charities that are
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  Speaker 1: doing good across not only domestically in the US, but
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  Speaker 1: also across the world. And so I'm going down this
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  Speaker 1: time to check out some of the coffee farms that
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  Speaker 1: our coffee is growing in. So I'll spend three or
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  Speaker 1: four days hiking through the jungle um to look for
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  Speaker 1: some coffee. Make sure it tastes like Duncan Donuts coffee.
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  Speaker 1: You like Duncan, Okay, Well that's so. So with that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned Becca Becca part of Becca Coffee.
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  Speaker 1: What Well, earlier you mentioned you're Rebecca at the party,
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  Speaker 1: and so I wanted to say that next week is
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  Speaker 1: on Honduras. Becca is going to come in to be
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  Speaker 1: the co host. Yes, h hit when she came on
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  Speaker 1: last time. Everybody loves her. Yeah, so I'm really excited
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  Speaker 1: to have Becca come on and be my co host.
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  Speaker 1: And the following week You'll still be gone, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: you know who else is almost famous? Bean? Do you
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  Speaker 1: have to say him? This week? He's gone. Dean is
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  Speaker 1: almost But damn is he actually famous? He might be famous,
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  Speaker 1: not just almost famous. You mentioned earlier, you said that
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  Speaker 1: there's this Instagram post that he just did. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: about it. He has two twenty followers as of this
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  Speaker 1: recording time. I'm sure later he'll be having like a
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand more by the end of the week. We
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  Speaker 1: all loved Dean. He's the cutest little thing and he's
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  Speaker 1: got the greatest face that God's ever created. But can
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  Speaker 1: we cut that out? No, we're not cutting that out.
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  Speaker 1: We're keeping that. I just can't shut up. But he
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  Speaker 1: has gotten eighty thousand likes on his last picture, which
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  Speaker 1: is insane. For two hundred and twenty thousand followers. That
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  Speaker 1: means that about the people that followed in like that picture.
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  Speaker 1: And if you were in the social media world, if
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  Speaker 1: you're engaged in this world, you know that that engagement,
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  Speaker 1: right is astronomical. Yeah, I see dollar signs. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I see in his future dollar signs. Um, well, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think I mean? Are you said he's gone home?
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  Speaker 1: He's a fan favorite. UM like you said, you have
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  Speaker 1: the most He is the most beautiful face that um
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  Speaker 1: Got himself has ever created. Can we please edit that out? No? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just sorry. I've been looking at it all weekend
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  Speaker 1: and it's just really fun to look at. Actually tell
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  Speaker 1: us more. Oh I can't, I'm such an idiot. Um. Okay, wait,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk out his hometown and let's talk out I'm
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  Speaker 1: going home. Please, I want to hear your perspective on it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he did a wonderful job handling his hometown.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was super mature, and I like the
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  Speaker 1: way that he confronted his dad with such conviction without
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  Speaker 1: being at all an owl. And there's just something when
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  Speaker 1: I watched this, it was before I met Dan, and
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  Speaker 1: I really he really won me over by the way
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  Speaker 1: he handled himself during the hometown You know, I agree,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I think there's so much um. You know, we watched
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette for entertainment most of the time, right, But
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: there's moments in the Bachelor and Bachelorette that always seemed
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to kind of hit the harm and Dean's had a
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: couple of those this season. And and for me, there
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: are two moments in this episode that, out of the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: whole episode, that really like touched me, I guess emotionally.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: One was when Dean's getting ready walk into his house
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and he looks at Rachel and he says, I'm so scared,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: and she turns to him as just the supportive, beautiful
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: person she is, and she says, I'm here for you.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: We can do this together. And like, at that moment,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you can see him relax, you can see him take
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: a deep breath. You can see him look at Rachel's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: eyes and say, okay, this is you know, yes, he's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: going home this week. But at that moment, she was
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: his partner. And that's what we all want in relationships, right,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: we want to be able to look at the other
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: person and say you got me, right, and then to
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: look back and say, oh, of course I've got you.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I'm here for you the whole time, no matter what happened.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: That to me was a moment that I thought, Okay,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Rachel not only is an incredible person for being there
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: for him, even if she was having her doubts at
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the moment, just saying Dean, we're gonna do this together.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And then for Dean to be that vulnerable and say,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you know, in a very mature place, I'm so scared
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: for this. How how just how deep and emotional was
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that time? Because I watched and I you know how
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I am. I like the moments that are a little
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: bit heavy. Um, I don't like the I don't like
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the group dates. I like the moments that the real,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the real, you know, the tear jerkers. And that was
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: one of them, and then the other one might have
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: surprise you, and I want to hear what you think
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and please tell me if you think I'm wrong. But
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: as Dean's talking to his dad, I feel for Dean.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think his dad handled the situation well from
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: what it sounds like. But yeah, I also have to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: feel for his dad. His dad lost the love of
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: his life and you can see that emotion in him,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and you can see how much life change his dad
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: has had since the death of his first wife. I mean,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: he literally changed everything, and it's almost like he lost
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: himself and maybe he found himself again. We don't know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how how he feels about himself today,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: but it's almost like in my eyes, he's lost himself
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and in sorrow and today he's no longer the man
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: he was before because of the death of his first wife.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And for me, I felt for his dad in these moments.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I do. I it's interesting that I was able to,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say, be on Dean's side during this,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: but I was also able to feel sympathy and sensitivity
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: towards his dad, and it was really the the like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: most compelling twentysomething minutes of TV I've seen in a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: very long time. Um, I would you want to read
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: something that Dean posted on his Instagram this weekend, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it's about his dad, and I think it really just
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: sums up everything that you feel after watching it, and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: especially how Dean wants you guys to watch it. He says,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: hometowns are two days away, and I'm asking for a favor.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: When I said my father was a centric, I wasn't
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: referring to his Seek faith or the turban that he
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: wears on his head. I'm asking you to spare his
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: feelings or mine. I'm not asking you to spare his
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: feelings or mine, but instead be cognizant and accepting of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the millions of people who belong to the Seek community.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Although he and I are not close, I respect my
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: father's decision to follow his heart and pursue the life
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: he has chosen. Let us not criticize him for his
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: appearance or his beliefs, because by doing we are disparging
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the whole entire faith culture that includes millions of people.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And I know that we are better than that. And
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: that is it for now. How cute does that? That's great?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I mean it is. I mean he's you can see
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: that even with it not with the relationships. It's not
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: that close to his dad. He's protecting his dad at
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: this moment, but he's also protecting um the Sikh faith,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and he's saying, you know, hey, I've been given this
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: platform and I you know, my parents didn't sign up
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: for this, and I invited my family into it, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: they they allowed it, you know, the cameras and the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: people and myself and Rachel into their home. And because
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of that, just hold off your judgment. And it's really
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a good lesson um for everybody that watches the show
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and everybody that's listening to this podcast, is let's hold
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: off our judgments because we don't know everybody's story, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: everybody has one, and sometimes those stories can be a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: little bit bigger and a little bit deeper and a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: little bit harder than any of us can imagine. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: think in this case, we just got up close and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: personal look at Dean and his dad and his family
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: story that is deep and it is hard, and they're
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: just trying to make it work. I agree, And I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: just also want to throw in there that I think
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Dean is so smart. I know a lot of people
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: are going to give him a lot of crap on
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: being too immature for this and maybe he's not ready
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: for marriage. But this guy, he's got a brain. I
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: love the way he writes, and I really like the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: way he even articulates himself in an emotional environment. I agreed,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So that brings up my next question. Then, um, he
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: sent home? Then this week? Do you think he was
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: too young for Rachel? I think he's knowing Dean now,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: like on a friendship level. I do think he is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: not ready for marriage, and I know that Rachel is,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna agree and say yes. So with that,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: he's heading the paradise. So he's still looking, he's still searching.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: By the way, I'm gonna take the heat for this one.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know where I got this information, but I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: know it's true. So Dean is heading the paradise. Lady
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is get excited to watch him, I mean, ladies. From
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: what Ashley says, Dean is the ultimate catch. So who's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: going to catch his heart in Paradise? Oh my god,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I'm honestly so stressed for the girls there because I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: know that if I were in Paradise this season, that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Dean would be the one that all the girls want
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and then the one you have to fight for. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I couldn't handle that emotional state. I just couldn't do it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: So I kind of feel bad for them, but I wouldn't.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: You couldn't handle it. I feel like I feel like
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: me being in Paradise with Jared, who was so sought after.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: He was like the most sought after guy there, um,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: other than maybe Wells. So I apparently just go for
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the one that all the ladies always like. And I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: just I'm so tired of competing. I always feel like
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I'm competing for the guy, so i'd be it would
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: just be hard to see him there and then know
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that he'd probably pick another girl over me. I actually,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know, like really, I'm
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: just there's a thought that keme in my mind here. Um,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I think you caught onto something and this is maybe
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a conversation we need to take on to next week
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: or offline, because there's a friend to you. We might
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: be touched on something. Because if you're in Paradise, you'd
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: be going after Dean and you can't tell me you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be, So you literally go after the guy that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: all the girls want. Yeah, I know that there's a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: lot we could talk about on this topic, but also like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't that just mean I have really good tasting guys? Well?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. And honestly, you are the girl
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that a lot of guys want and that you're an
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: amazing woman, and so these guys would be lucky to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: have you. I think that it's just interesting. Maybe you're
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: attracted to the guy that all the other girls kind
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of are desiring, and you know, with the Jared situation
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and with wealth, I mean, you kind of landed them.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I would say that I agree, you know what, in
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the long run, in the long run, I went out
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: as far as it goes. Actually, yeah, you know, when
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you put it that way, you're right, because even if
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it's not romantic, they do tend to like to be
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: around me in the long run. I mean, how can
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you not? But I like being around you. I think
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that's obvious. I think everybody listens to this podcast like
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you know, being around you, or they wouldn't, you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: stick you in their ears for an hour each week. Um,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: but it's I think that's something we need to talk
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: about later on, is why does actually go after the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: guy that all the girls want? Maybe because they are
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: just the best guys and she's the best girl, so
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that would make sense speaking of some of the best guys.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And and I don't know if Bachelor Nation agrees that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Rachel's final three are the three best guys, um that
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: she had. But we're down to three now Dean's out.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: We're moving on from Dean. We have Peter, Brian, and Eric. Okay,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: so they're entering the Fantasy Sweet Week, Huge Week. But
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: before that, Ashley, your thoughts, are these the three best
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: guys that Rachel had? M there's a lot of dark horses. Um.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I wish we had seen more from Alex. I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that Kenny is a really, really sweet, awesome guy. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: obviously she had quite the relationship with Matt that we
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: didn't get to see. As far as who we as
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: an audio, What do you mean by that? Just to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: be clear, I don't I don't know what you're talking about. Matt. Yeah, well,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: we all know that she left in tears when she
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: let go of Matt, and she kept saying, we're so alike.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And if this were a real life thing, if we
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: had met in real life, it seemed I think it
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: would have lasted longer. It would have been more intense
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and like we wouldn't be breaking up after six weeks,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Like she obviously had something that we didn't see between
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the two of them. So I don't know. I think
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: as far as television viewers go, this top four makes
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the most sense. Top three, I think most people would
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: have thought it would have been Dean, Peter and Brian
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: instead of Eric, and Eric was thrown in there maybe
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: because um, she feels like he's more ready for marriage
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: than Dean. Was. Okay, that makes sense. I mean I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: actually really liked Eric's hometown. I saw a different side
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to Eric that I hadn't seen yet. Um, So moving
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: on there, we're moving in the Fantasy Suite week. You've
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: been in the Fantasy of Seek before? Um, was it fantastical?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I think we've talked about my Fantasy Suite experience before,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and it was a really great time to get to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: know Jared more. But you know, obviously, between he and I,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like sexy time. It was just it was
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it was just nice because we could talk about subjects
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and people that we couldn't talk about and didn't want
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to like broadcast our private lives to a certain degree
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: on TV. So there was a lot of past relationships
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: we didn't talk about on TV that we were able
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to talk about in the Fantasy Suite. Do you do
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you feel like the Fantasy Suite was one of the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: most impactful Uh, I guess scenarios or experiences on the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: show that for your relationship with Jared, well, definitely, except
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: for the fact he broke up with me the day
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: after our Fantasy Suite, So it didn't affect a relationship
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that much, I guess, But I think it probably just
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: solidified that we liked each other as human beings a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: lot more. You're just a lot more comfortable when you're
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: on camera, and you know, we get to that point
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: where you're like, oh my god, I'm so comfortable on camera,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: like I can't even I can't even tell when the
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: cameras around, you know, it just feels so natural. But
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: then when those doors shut and you hear silence for
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the first time in weeks, You're like, oh, wow, I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: guess I do feel different. Yeah, I get that. I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: mean the Fantasy suits so that it was by far
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the most impactful experience I had in the show, not
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: only with Caitlin but also um then with Kayla Joe,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Joe and Lauren um And and it isn't just you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it isn't physical, physical or purely physical. I think we've
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: been very clear on that before in a previous episode.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: The Fantasy Suite is really one of the first times
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: that you can just let your guard down. You can
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: get in your pajamas. First off, you can have moments
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: of silence, which on the show you don't really have
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: moments of silence because you feel like you always need
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: to be talking about something um And moments of silence
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: are often times in relationships. I think the moments where
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you really either can tell if you're comfortab with the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: other person or you know, if if you're sitting there
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: in silence because you just can't figure it, find anything
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to talk about. UM, that's a pretty good sign. Also,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I think the Fantasy streets are incredibly important, and I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be very important for Rachel Um because really,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of these guys, we still don't
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: have a clear cut favorite, and I don't know if
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: she does. Yes, I agree with you. I think he's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: she's pretty torn right now between at least two of them,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and which two is that? I think she's torn between
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Peter and Brian, and I think the yeah fantasy is telling.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: But for you, did you ever have a moment of like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: oh wait, I'm going to change my mind after this experience? Um? No,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I really didn't. I mean, so it didn't change that much.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It's so hard to say, because in the Fantasy Suite,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you're entering into a week where it really is to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: explore what who you have with you still and what
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: relationships are are existing. And so I think for me, um,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that week was really a week just to know find
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: out as much about each individual person as possible in
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the time that we had. Now, that's also a tough
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: week because a little behind the scenes information, You talk
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a lot, and you don't get into the suite until
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: pretty late at night, and you wake up pretty early.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So it's terrible because you usually end up and you
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: don't really want to go to sleep because you have
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: this few hours to be away from everybody and away
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: from the cameras, and so you wake up the next
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: morning exhausted and you have to start dating again. You
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you you know you You're You're instagram to the next day,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and so it's a really exhausting couple hours. Um, but
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's really really worth it, and it's huture these relationships.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to watch Rachel coming out of the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Fantasy Sweets because I know coming out of the Fantasy Sweets,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: for me, I might have just had a little more clarity.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably nothing changed, just a little more
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: clarity on woman was all right, so all I can say, wait,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: hold on, okay, hold on, just one thing. I need
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: to say that my fantasies. We I didn't get there
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: until like to a m with Jared and he was like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: can we please go home? Like I am not into this.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: We were in the middle of a kind of a
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: scary place in Mexico and he was very nervous. And
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: then we finally got into the actual fantasy suite at
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: three thirty am. So we talked for like three hours
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and then we slept for four And then you have
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to wake up and have that person see you after
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: four hours of sleep and it doesn't look good. Well,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: if it's love, then it shouldn't matter. I know, I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: feel pretty without makeup. I just didn't feel pretty after
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: four hours asleep. Well, I think there's one way that
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you look pretty and I know that you take care
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of yourself very welshly. I've never doubted that. And one
• 30:50
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• 30:54
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• 31:25
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  Speaker 1: get red and irritated and dry. And you guys don't
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  Speaker 1: you know. The one thing I do like and and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of stuff to take care
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: of my skin, and I probably should, but you know
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that feeling um when you wash your face, you get
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: at the shower and you put a lotion on or
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: cream on or whatever whatever you're doing, and you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: it kind of feels like um, like soothing or like
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit like it's not stingy. What's the word
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• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It's like soothing or cooling. Cooling is the word cooling? Yeah,
• 32:33
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• 32:35
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm feeling when I put it on. It's
• 32:37
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  Speaker 1: you're acting today. That is so funny. All right, you're
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  Speaker 1: so funny, Ben, Are you ready to give Chase McNairy
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: some right now? I'm so excited to talk to Chase
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: is chasing the studio. Chase, your hair looks so good.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: You got rid of the fade. Everybody needs to get
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: rid of the fade. I was thinking that watching Dean's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Dean's hometown. His hair looks fantastic in there, because you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: can't get your hair faded on the Bachelor, and now
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it's all like the last hair on the top. Mi.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Con guys, this looks amazing. Thank you, thank you. I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: needed that because I'm not really sure, but I know
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the hard part is getting overplayed and I'm done done
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, I mean, there's only so much you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: can do to stay hip and uh and and the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: fade would definitely hit for a while. I'm like your case.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, Um, are you shirtless right now?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I am not? But it doesn't he's super tan though. Really? Yeah,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: where did you just come back from? You're in Cabo?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I just got back from Cobbo last night. Who are
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: you with? Um? Josh Murray and I were down there
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: with a handful of other people eating sasson. Yeah, who
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: is sassoon? Please let me in beating sas soon was
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: on the Real Housewives. Her dad is Vedel Sassoon, who
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: started and built Sassoon hair Products. Do you yell use
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: sas soon? Um? I did she give you a gift?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Did she give you a gift basket? Um? No, not
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of her hair stuff, but oh not of her hair
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: stuff another gift basket. No, Well, the gift of a
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: pretty fantastic health of wellness trip down to Kabo. That
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that was actually one of my favorite trips I've ever
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: taken so far. Eaton Sasson is just really about kind
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of giving back and changing anybody's world that you can,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and and kind of bringing just good positivity and light
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to anyone that that is following or watching our journeys.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's deep. Yeah, it is. We spent We
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: spent most of the time doing you know, we did.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: She owns a couple of Plotti studios in towns who
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: did plots and yoga every day, and then kind of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you know, did a lot of deep, deep conversations, some
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: conversations about God and and all that stuff. So it
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: was just a great positive trip, something a lot different
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: than than you would usually think when you're going down
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to Cabo or Mexico. So she didn't try to hit
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: on you or Josh, No, No, it's it's it's totally
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: a business and friendship in in a in a wellness
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: relationship between all three of us. I mean, I think
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that sounds great and and welcome back to the United States. Then, um,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we're happy to have you. Thanks for coming in the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: studio of the day after coming back from the trip.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to start out a little heavy here. Okay,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: we're gonna ask you some questions, um that they are
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: going to feel a little intrusive, a little bit rough.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: But then we're gonna move into some topics that are
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit easier, a little bit more forgiving. Okay.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect anything less. I'd have been Also, I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: have no idea of where these tough questions that are
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: coming in. It's probably gonna be if I have any
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: asked pictures on the internet. No, no, no, no, we're
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: done with that. That's that's that's not even what was
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: on my mind. Case. I can't believe you would think that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: On my mind is how does a man in his
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: late twenties have so little body hair? Um, you're gonna
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: have to talk to my grandpa about that. I think
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the hair gene comes from your mom's dad. You have
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: great hair in your head, but very little on your body. Yeah,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: don't you don't man escape, you don't groom. I mean
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I do, just a quick little trim, but it doesn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: take much on your chest? Are down there? I mean everywhere? Actually?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Actually I know are PG but APG. But I just
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: think it's interesting to ask about manscaping. Mandscaping is it's
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: an art? Not really, It's pretty simple if you're not
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not a hairy guy. That's really the bottom line.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not a hairy guy. Robbie is a rather hairy individual. Yeah,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't have much body hair and his pictures either,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: which confuses me. Moving on, Um, we got to move
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: on to this topic then that I was hoping I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: could lead into it with did you man escape or
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: did you groom? Four? But it doesn't sound like you
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: really need to. Um, so good for you. Keep it up,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: keep keep you know, being being hairless. Would you have
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: manscaped for the Fantasy Suite? Yeah, if you needed to, Yeah,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you would have groomed up? Yeah clean, But he did.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: He had to prepare himself for it because he got
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: into it almost I got into it, and then I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: got out of it a lot quicker than everybody else. Yeah,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you didn't get to the point where the camera's left. Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the door never closed. How do you feel in that moment? Um,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that was obviously the heaviest, hardest moment of the entire
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: show for me, you know it was. It was the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: biggest confusing piece I went through because I had no
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: idea why that would be the time Jojo would decide
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to send me home. Mhm. I mean this week we're
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: entering into the reason we're talking fantasy sweets, Jase. I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: don't know if you're staying up to date with the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Bachelor or not, but we're entering into Fantasy Suite week, um,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: which I think is a huge week, especially for the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: decisions coming as they come down to the end and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: getting this time away from the rest of the group
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and the cameras. Um. What I guess, how did you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: feel about now looking back? How do you feel about
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: how Jojo handled the Fantasy suitees and especially especially your situation?
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: And then how do you feel like Rachel is handling
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: everything up in like up to the Fantasy Suite everything
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: you seen so far? Um, you know, I think Joe,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Joe did I mean, I guess she did it. She
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: did a good job of handling handling the Fantasy suite,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So I wish it was a different outcome. I would
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like to believe that maybe if she would have given
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: me the Fantasy Suite for the rest of the night,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: maybe it would have been a completely different outcome. But
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: who knows. Um. And then from what I've seen, I mean,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Rachel's been taking this entire season seriously and she's not
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: messing around, and I expect her to handle the fantasy
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Suite and that exact same manner if there was. So
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: if if there's a girl that you've met so far
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation that you would want to day or
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you could see yourself potentially going on a date with
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and being interested in, who would be Yum, you didn't
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: go to Paradise this season. I know last time we
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: were here, we were, you know, really hinting at the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: fact that you would be, but it turns out you didn't. Um,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: was that because there weren't any girls that you were
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: really interested in dating that you hadn't met yet. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: think that was that was a have a piece of
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: it for sure. I mean, just right now, I'm not
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: seeing the maturity in many of the girls in the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation franchise that I'm attracted to, I guess, but
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you have to pick one. I don't know if I do.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Do I you do. It's part of the contract that
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: we didn't have you sid um and you said girls
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that I've met, because there's obviously a handful that I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: have not. I got an easy answer for you. She's
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: sitting right next Yeah. Actually, I right, of course. I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: mean you can wetly such a fun trip together to
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Miami about a month ago, you're the bit the best
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: trip partner. We did have a great time in Miami.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: That was fun. It was fun, and I think both
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of us had low expectations and then we've all had
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a blast. Actually actually, and I do make a pretty
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: good travel doing. Yeah, it sounds like I mean, actually
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: came back just ecstatic from that trip. Um. So, Chase,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you mentioned that there's not any women then in Bachelor
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Nation that you might be interested in dating other than Ashley. Um,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: what do you think then? I don't know if you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: meant any of them Of the last three guys in
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Rachel's season, Peter, Brian and Eric Oh, yeah, Um, I
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: have not met any of them from what I've seen.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I like Peter. I think Peter's pretty cool guy. I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: think Peter and you would get along very easily. You
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: seem to have the same demeanor. Yeah, yeah, I would.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I would like to meet Peter Um And then I
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: hate to admit it, but I haven't been following that
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: closely to have a great opinion on Eric and Brian.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: But I've heard great things about Brian. You and Dean
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: both live in Venice. You guys need to go hang
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: out at the Fat House. Yeah, Dean actually still lives
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: with one of my really really good friends from college.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: That is such a small world. I don't know. Yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I met him this weekend. Yeah, so Jackson I think
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: is going to be on the Hometown. He's not. He
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: flew there. Dean was telling me about a part at
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the Hometown that didn't get shown, and that was when
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Rachel went and met a whole bunch of his friends. Right,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Jackson's probably gonna be upset about that. He watched this
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: week and was probably so sad. It was like his
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: moment to shine and it just gets completely cut out.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: So you're kind of I guess you're back in l
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: a Um you're still running a couple of companies. Um,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: are are these companies going well for you? Are you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: in a good place in life? Can you give us
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: an update on kind of where chases at? Yeah? Yeah, um,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: companies are going great. The only one that is really
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: out there right now is you know, my my leisure
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: a Letics. It's that athletic company, athletic wear company, and
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: that's going fantastic. Um. But more so than that, I'm
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: focusing a lot on kind of the fitness side of things.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I'm actually gearing up to launch a full fitness site,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: personal training site, and then uh, probably gonna be doing
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: an online fitness challenge here in the next couple of months.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: So time out. I'm sorry to bring this back up.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Does does this mean more shirtless pictures? I mean that's
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the only way, man. For you. This is when you
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: do get a girlfriend, you think he's gonna get annoyed
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: at all your shirtless pictures, Well, she won't be my girlfriend.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I need a girlfriend with confidence security. Yeah. First off,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you mentioned the word confidence. I'm starting to sit here
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: and question my own confidence because I think of myself,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you know, being out there fully exposed to the world
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: so often and the criticisms and the comments that come
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: back could be so harsh that I think I'm I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: fearful of those. So maybe all the this issue with
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: me and your just amount of nipple picks that get
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: posted on your Instagram, that's just me being super insecure.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: You have nice nipples, Well they're not They're not intended
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: for you to be insecure. They're intended to be motivational.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, let's get you working out there. Let's get
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you super jacks for summer next year, and you can
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: have some shirtless photos rocket on your page too. Oh wait,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about captions and stuff like how
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: hard do you feel your inspirational captions? How hard do
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I feel them? Yeah? Like where do you get them from?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Where does it come? A lot of a lot of
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: them come from some of some of my favorite books. Um,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I don't google them, but know that they come from
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: most of my books, or or just some of the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: philosophies and stuff that I've grown up believing and talking about. Actually,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: my mom's pretty inspirational a lot of the time, so
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I consult her um on a daily basis, So some
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: of those come from her. And then just whatever I'm
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: feeling kind of that day and what might make sense?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So where you hope this goes? Chase? I mean, in
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: all seriousness, you're You've mentioned the word here. You're trying
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to motivate your starting a fitness brand where you're gonna
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: help people get healthier. You started an athletic were company. Um,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you just got back. It sounds like from a trip
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that was not only spiritual, but it was good, it
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: was physical and it was good for your mind. Um,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: where do you hope all this goes? Like? What's what's
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: next for you? Um? So it all kind of goes
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: back to a couple of months or a couple of
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. Actually I got my first UM cover of
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: a magazine and fitness magazine. So you know, I'm really
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: finally settling into something that I'm I'm passionate about, that
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about. And having that for me is it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: different because you know, medical device sales what I did
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: before the show, um, and and that was fun, that
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: was challenging, that was a rewarding career, but but I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: never really had that full passion there. But now I
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: can kind of dive into this fitness world where I
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: can actually give some of my knowledge back to everybody
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and help people achieve new goals for themselves. Um, and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm excited about. Would you ever think
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: about opening your own studio? Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I'm
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: actually in conversations it's probably a long way out, but
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: in conversations with a few different people about doing that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: My final question because I don't necessarily get into this
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: world too much, and I'm proud of you for doing
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: it because it's it is crazy and I see your
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: pictures all the time and yeah, you got muscles in
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: places I don't is good for you and that work up?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: How often? I mean for Ashley and I we're both
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: very interested in this, Um, how often do you lift? Like?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: How oft do you work out? I guess a good
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: question for our listeners out there because we get a
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: lot of emails on questions about diet and habit because
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of people do The Bachelor and just in
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: great shape, So like, how often do you work out?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And then to close out this segment with you, if
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you could give any tip to any of the listeners
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: we have out there, what would that tip be? Yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: so you know, coming off the show, you you kind
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: of get sucked into a lot of the traveling and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the partying and all that stuff. So last summer and
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: even into the winter, I started to just kind of
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: lose myself a little bit, even you know, my body,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and I started feeling weak and depleted. So then you know,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I got back into it. So to answer your question,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I do I work out every day. Um. I try
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and get at least an hour in. Sometimes I'll do
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: cardi in the morning and lift at night. But just
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: trying to try and sweat every day is one of
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: my main philosophies. Um. As long as you can do that,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna you know, see results and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: see progression and be up here and healthier. Um. And
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: then my one advice I would say for anybody listening
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: is is if you are in the gym and you
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: are working out and you're getting that that routine going. Um.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: You know, one of my favorite quotes is don't stop
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: when you're tired, stop when you're done. Make sure and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: have a have a well planned out workout and get
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: through that whole thing no matter how tired you are,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: every set, every rep until the end. Well, uh, Chase,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I think your quote is going to be a quote
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: we should keep for this podcast. We're not going to
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: quit when we get tired. We're gonna quit when we're done.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: H Chase, thanks for coming in, man, I appreciate it.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks for explaining the thought process behind your social media,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: your trips, your new businesses, and just who you are
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: as a person. Um, You've been awesome to us, and
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming on once again. Please don't be
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: a stranger to the almost famous podcast. Yeah no, I'm
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I'm local, so hopefully I can be here quite often
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: whenever you guys need me. Yeah, oh yeah, thank you, Ben. Actually,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: great to see you all. Actually you can do my baby,
• 48:01
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  Speaker 1: ton to talk about, and and something that I'm very
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  Speaker 1: somebody I'm very excited to talk to is somebody you've
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: just spent a lot of time with, and that's Luke Pell.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Luke Pell is on the line right now to him
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: about getting dumped before the Fantasy suite the week before,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: so he would have been let go exactly where Dean was. Luca,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: you're out there. What's going on? Ben? How you doing?
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I'm good man. Actually's on the line as well. Thank
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you for joining us. Look, I missed your voice. It's
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: only been twenty four hours. I know it seems like
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: for of her before Ashley chimes in here, because I've
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: got to hear all about it, and you haven't yet
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: tell us a rundown of the magic that existed between
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you and Ashley this weekend. I didn't say anything about this, Luke,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: we have some magic. This segaind the magical weekend in Tahoe.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: It was. It was so much fun, and it sounds
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: like it was great. Now we had a we had
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: a great weekend. Tyho is amazing. That's my first summer
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: experience in Tahoe, and that place is like heaven on earth, unbelievable,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: the water of crystal clear. I could spend every summer
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: there would be awesome. Hey, look, you you met your
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: runner up, basically like the guy who followed you, Dean.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: He was fourth place this season in your fourth place
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: your season. So you guys, probably you're able to bond
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: over that position and it is a position so very
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: close to fantasy suites but doesn't really make it there.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: How much frustration frustration do you feel that you didn't
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: make it there to get that a long opportunity And
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: how much did you and Dean bond over it? Yeah,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you know I think that, Um, it's interesting meeting being
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: and knowing that he's gone through the same thing um
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: that that I did last season, and uh, you know
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: it's a weird spot to be in because um, you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: it was even more weird I think for Chase um
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: having gone to the fantasy suite date and like really
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: not having the actual fantasy swee can get sit home.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: But you know, for us it was I think it
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: was probably a lot of shock, and I think you
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: know it was for me at least and probably for Dean.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: It's just that you kind of you it's you know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: when you get to the top four, I think that
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: that's where things really get weird because the top four people,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like the lead really has very very similar
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: feelings for and so you know, up until that point,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: you kind of know where that you kind of feel comfortable,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you know that your connection is strong. Um and even
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: even when you have the hometown date at least I think,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: you know, for some people, maybe they know the hometowns
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: don't go well or whatever, um, and maybe they know
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: what's coming. Um. For me, my mom town went really
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: well or seemingly really well. It was a shock. Yeah, So, Luke,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: you had the greatest home down Ever, that was when
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you're real Nicholas Sparks shining star moment came through for me.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't remember this how so yeah,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: tell what you tell you tell about what you did
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: for your hometown. So there was a Greys Anatomy episode,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: which I mean, every girl likes Grays Anatomy, right, Oh
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: my god. He keeps getting better better with every single
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: were they like outlined their their future home where they
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to raise their family and like outlined it and
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: candles or whatever. They're like this, who kids are gonna play?
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: This is going to kitchen anyway, So we simplified that
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and I did this whole like laid out a heart
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: and rose pedals and candles and and it was out,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: you know, my parents ranch in Texas and looking back people,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I invited more people to the like family
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: barbecue cause that's something that we traditionally did UM and
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: that I think people are like, well, that probably scared her.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: That was like too many people to invite over to
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the hometown date or whatever, and that's fine, um, But anyway,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: like it was just it felt really comfortable. It felt like,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you know, my my family connected um with Jojo and
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I saw vice versa at least from that day and
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: what we talked about in our conversations. But anyway, needless
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: to say, you know, I guess she didn't fill it
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and that was something
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that you know, back to back to that shock scenario,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: is that I didn't realize that, you know, because I
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: knew that you know, she had um, you know, strong
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: feelings for me, but she also had it for the
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: other three guys as well. So that's why going into
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: that um you know roads certain money where I went home,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: it was just such a shock. I didn't see it coming.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm probably very similar feeling to what what Dean felt.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: So no one saw you you leaving, no one saw it,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: crushing moment, one of the prize things that ever happened.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Do you remember I mean that going down? I know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I remember going back to Caitlin season when I was
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette, and I tried to think back to
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: the night that I was, like and I don't really
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: remember it because it was such a culture shock or
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: emotional shock, because all of a sudden, you you're in
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: this world that you've been in for months and then
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you're just and it's over. Yeah, yeah, it definitely is that.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, it takes a little bit to
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: get accustomed to the whole um, day to day rhythm,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: how things are going, and then all of a sudden,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: now the day you're sent home, everything is completely new
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and you're trying to adapt, Like, I don't even know
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: how to feel right now. I'm now I know now
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: that I'm out of it, what's happened next? You don't know,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: like hour by hour, what's going to be the next
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you know, undoing of of your presence on the show,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: and so anyway, um, yeah, it's a it's a weird situation.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: So then you were how did you go home? I
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: was actually I went home at third So it was
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: after Fantasy Suites. I had I had been there through
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Fantasy Suits and then I was let go at the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Rose ceremony. Uh in in Ireland, and so when I
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: was let go, Um, it was a shock to me
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: because I didn't know, you know, for weeks, you hadn't
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen any of the other people Nick or
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: shot at the time, and so all of the and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you walk into the room, you see them for the
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: first time in weeks. Then you're sent home and within
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of hours, I was in a
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: hotel room without any cameras, any producers. I was done.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: And and I think for me it was I remember
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I face timed a couple of days later one of
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: my best friends and and he builded this day we'll
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: talk about how weird I was, Like I was emotionally drained,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: physically drained and confused, um, because this this world that
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you start living in, you get used to it and
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and you don't know how to exit out of it easily. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: it was very similar for me. Um. I didn't realize until,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you know, those first few days after getting sent home,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: how how deeply you know, I was in that emotional channel,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I was like, oh my gosh, like
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I'm having like anxiety attacks stuff. And I didn't didn't
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: mentally feel like that, but I was emotionally in that space.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize it until I haven't got a
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: lot of closure. I don't know if you feel like this,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: but but there's a lot of closure because is for me,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I said goodbye to Caitlin and I never I mean
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: after the fifteen minutes that we talked that I didn't
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: see her again for months, And I know for you,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: for you and Jojo, you probably didn't see he again
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: until the mentel all yeah, yeah, exactly. I have a
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: question for you guys, which I'm dragged by what we
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: were both so invested emotionally in these two respective women.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Were you ready to propose? Because we see Peter right
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: now and he's at the stage that you guys were at,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: and he's really doesn't seem like he is. Yeah, you know,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I've from what I've watched the season, um, it seems
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: like the guys are showing or at least voicing a
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: lot of reservation here. You know, I feel like Dean
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and Peter both are like, oh, this is my fear,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this is my fear, and uh, you know, for me,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: like that wasn't even really a conversation that that was
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: what was a shocker for me. It wasn't the conversation
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: that I even had with Jojo, Like I didn't talk
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: about like my concerns, didn't feel like I could even
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: get there. And now that was huge. I was like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I was going there like a lot of introduce you
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: to my family. If I feel like she's soot confident
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: in that, I both I felt confident in that, then
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: we can keep moving forward. You know, it's just taking
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: it day by day at that point. But um, but yeah,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I've never showed any concern. She never really like voice
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: any concern. It just all happened, you know. Um And
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and at one road ceremony, So Luke might be answering
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: that perfectly. It's I don't I don't blame these guys,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: and I don't think any viewers should for having reservations
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: or concerns. They're not saying, hey I don't like Rachel,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and hey I don't see a future with Rachel. I
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: don't want to explore future with Rachel. What they're saying
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: is I just we haven't even gotten there yet, like that,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: we haven't had the opportunity to talk about it yet.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: And how am I supposed to enter into an engagement
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: with somebody when I haven't even asked a question what
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: do they want out of a marriage? And and and
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: we don't have those opportunities. So I think for me, Um,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you know, when when I was with Caitlin, I don't
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: know if I had even thought about it yet. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: then that doesn't mean that I wasn't ready. It just
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: means that like I was trying to survive by even
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: figuring out what world I was living in. Yeah, that's
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: completely true. So one day at a time, one day
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: at a time, and in one moment at a time,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: one interaction at a time. UM, I know how I
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: would would answer this, and I know how I felt like,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: you guys are beating the bush. What would you have done?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I don't completely imposed. Yeah, yeah, I don't even think
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: that would have been Like I don't know at that
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: time if I would have, I don't think I would
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: have not proposed like I would have been. Um, I
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: can't say that. I think with Caitlin, I had a
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: lot of questions just on you know, who she wanted,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: and I also knew it's different because I knew was Caitlin.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: She was so into Sean that it felt weird for
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: me to even still be there because yeah, exactly, so
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I knew how much they cared for each other. And
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: so for me, I don't think I could have just proposed,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: because it would have felt like something would have had
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: had to happen to make it clear to me that
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: she almost would have felt it was a joke on me, like, yeah, hey, Ben,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I chose you, but I really in love with the
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: guy that I just sent home, Like that would have
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: made sense to me. Um, I knew she really cared
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: about him, and I was just trying to figure out
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: if he was even still around because like we mentioned,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: for weeks, you don't see the other contests. You don't
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: even know if they're there still not right, But Luke,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you seem pretty firm on your answer you would have
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: proposed to Jojo. Yeah, absolutely, Like that was like I mean,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I was planning like the next day, like I was
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: thinking about what I'm gonna say that the conversation was
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: going than to go. Like I was so like you know,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: moving forward and emotionally in my head. And so that's
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: why you know that all that's one of the shock.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: And I mean, if they edited it like that, it
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: looked like chock if it was, maybe that was the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: whole thing is it was just keyed up to be, um,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the biggest dramatic Monday night, and that's that's
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: kind of what I walked right into. But I don't
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Wow, do you wish I mean, Luke,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: are you glad that that Joe Joe handled the way
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: she did? Like I mean, if she knew that she
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: was gonna pick Jordan's, are you glad she sent you home?
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Or do you just wish you could have been been
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: around a little bit longer? Um? You know, I I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: think that I wish it would have been with her
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: first instinct and like gone like whoever she feels. I mean,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's a strategy you have to have as
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: a lead, and you probably have had. You've had to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: deal with that, like are you going to have kind
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: of a quote unquote burn card where the decision is
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: easier for you at the very end, of course, but
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: for you, you know, it was between Jojoe and Lauren,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: so you were like, I don't know what I'm to do.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I don't gonna do Like that whole conversation was going on.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: So I think some people are like, oh, well, if
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I make this hard decision earlier than the last decision,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: won't be as hard on me, you know. And and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I guess that's what she did. And you know, for me,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: if I was in her and shoes, I think I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: would have like to have given every you know, everyone
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: an equal chance. I'll wait to the end and make
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: that decision to be sure that I made the right one,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: you know, because those those those last few dates are
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the most meaningful in the connection as the greatest and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: you know the most about those people. So I don't know, No,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, I know how hard it is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: in those moments to make those decisions. And so however
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Jojo handled it, we gotta say she handled it correctly
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: because she's happy now and she's she's worked out for
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: her UM. But I know, you know, somebody that kind
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: of stands out to me would Ben Uh. And she's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: a great friend of mine and a great guest on
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: the show is Becca Tilly. I had I said goodbye
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: to her, um, you know, when we're still in Worse Indiana.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: So she was going home a couple of weeks even
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: before Fantasy Suites, because I knew that my feelings for
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: the other women were stronger than my feelings for her,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: even though there was you know, she was still up there,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: like she could have still been around for a long time.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: But I knew that I didn't want to put somebody
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: like Becca through any more turmoil or any more any
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: more any confusion. I would just rather make that decision then,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: because I knew how hard it would be to make later. Yeah,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: what what do you what are you doing that? Actually?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Do you like you have your two closest people at
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the very end and try to make that decision a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: hard decision for yourself, or you try to make that
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: decision easier for yourself by sending someone else home earlier.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I think I would have to keep them ball to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: the end. I don't think i'd be being easy on
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: anyone for just like their sake, because I do feel,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: like Rachel's pointed out in the Bath, She's like, this
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: is kind of the time that I have to be selfish.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: So if I really actually thought I needed more time
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: with one of these guys, just a further give clarity
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: to myself, then I'd really need to keep him around
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: for that, right. But if I don't know, if I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: was set in the way that I think that Caitlin
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: was so set. I feel like I would have let
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Ben go at a time before like the final get
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: down one knee no no, no, no, but I would
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: have let you go on when I guess I'm thinking
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: like personally, I would have kept like Ben, Jared, and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Sean as my top three nick but like those would
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: have been my top three from that season, and I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: would have been like, Okay, I don't know. You guys
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: are so many feelings involved. So you're living, You're living.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Actually you understand this. It's hard to be the Bachelor. Bachelor.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: We've got to give these people some grace and some
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: credit because they're trying really hard to make correct decisions. Um.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Look that brings into my next question. Okay, I know
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: you're a busy man, and I want to talk about
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: your tour in a second because I have some exciting
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: announcement to make about your tour that you know, I'm
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: really pumped out. Um, but if you were asked to
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: be Okay, so there's this is a two part question.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: First off, do you have a girlfriend or not? And
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: if you don't, if you ask to be the Bachelor again,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: would you do it? Yeah? So you know, I, first
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: of all, um, after the way things kind of fell
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: out last year, you know, the relationship between me and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: and um, you know, the production companies, it kind of
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: went awry, um right at the very end, and everybody
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: knows that. So I kind of just at that point
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: started trying to mentally move on and emotionally just move
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: on from that process and being in that role. And
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to hang onto it and like try
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: to wait another year and see what happens or anything.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So um. You know. So with that being said, that
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: was that was that was kind of phase one. And
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: then too you know, I've made myself available start dating,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: and I have started dating again and yeah, and and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: so I am dating someone and um, yeah, so that's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: just not oh you are dating somebody. Yeah, I am
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: good for you. Good for you, man, that's awesome. Things
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: that you know for me is because in the cards,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: you know, so um. But you know, I think that
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody's going to be in that right place
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: and that right season where it's open for them. And
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: somebody from the past season which they're showing now that
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: you know from pulling Nick from a past season last
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: year that they're open to that, and it doesn't have
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: to be somebody from the you know, current season that's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: a runner up. But um but I don't know that
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: that would be interesting to see how that unfolds this year.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: For sure it will. Um well, I have to add,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: we already started training for the Winter Games, so you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: would be open to that if they asked you back
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: for that, right. I'm still trying to understand the whole
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: concept of what's going to happen with this Winter Game,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: but it is intriguing, Like it sounds. It sounds like
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun because like, I don't know, I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: think you guys probably feel the same way. I love
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: hanging out with my Bachelor family, so like just like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: hanging out and doing stuff. So the Bachelor Games Winter
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Games thing, I'm intrigued to see what the details are
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: on it because it kind of sounds farn It was funny.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I put on my instant story, you know, you having
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: to try to get on the trampoline without a ladder,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: and I got so many people that were messaging me
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: throughout the day and it was like, wait, you live
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: as on a Cliffhanger. Did he get on the trampoline
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: or not? So I think you know, we're all set
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: for the Winter Games, so it's gonna be fun. Luke
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: something else else you're set for? And I got to ask,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: do you bring the girl with you or not? Um,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: you are going to play to rock out to dominate
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: my hometown of Warsaw, Indiana on your tour very soon?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Will you breathe bringing Lucky Lady and tell us about
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: your tour promoted? Talk about it because I bet it's
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. And I hope everybody from Warsaw who
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: was supported me so well comes out and supports you. Yeah,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: we were excited. Warsaw reached out and they're like, hey,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: you know, like obviously from then being from here, we're
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: huge Bachelor Bachelor fans. We'd love to have you bring
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: your band and come play. So we're gonna We're gonna
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: play on in Chicago at a place called Joe's. I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: think that's the night before, um, and then I think
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: it's August eleventh and August twelve, we're gonna be in Warsaw, Indiana,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: home of v Ben Higgins. So, um, are you going
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: to be there? I'm not that I wish there's posters
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: all over my hometown about it. Honestly, people are so stoked.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I was just I was just in Warsaw last week
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and my it was I was it was super fun.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Like I was sitting at my house and my parents
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: both go, hey, Ben, did you hear the big news?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: And I was like, what have big news? And they
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: said Rupel is coming to our town and I was like,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: that's also. I texted Luke and I was like, man,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: this is so cool. I wish I could be there.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I can't. I know my parents will, They'll be They'll
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: be out there head being into the country music. Um,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: are you bringing your girl? Uh No, probably not. It's
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: logistically it's a little a little tough on that on
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the weekend. But um, but yeah, it's gonna be fun.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to be in um Indiana. We're saw Indiana.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I've never been there, so that'll be first. Well, Luke,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that one of these
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: days we're definitely bringing the podcast to one of the
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: one of your shows, even if it's not the one
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: in Warsaw. I can't wait. I think it'd be a blast,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: would be so much fun to have you guys so talented.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: He really thank you for this. Like you, You've been
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: great to us and we want to promote your tour,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: so anytime you can come on and talk about it
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and give us updates. I know actually always loves hearing
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: your voice, and so do I. Also, you, guys, download
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: his music on iTunes. It's so good. I listened to
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: those two singles he has up there all the time. Awesome.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys. Um, y'all have a great rest
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: of your day and we'll talk to you center. Alright, guys,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: we're getting to the end of this podcast and one
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: of our favorite segments on our podcast, which is listener emails. Ben,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I have one here from Kate and I'm just skimming
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: through it, but it seems really interesting and I think
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: it's directed towards maybe both of us. All Right, so
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: it's from Kate and says, hey, y'all. I love the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: care that Ben puts into saying things as kindly as possible,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: and the way that he shows Jesus without even saying it.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I love how Ashley is so vulnerable and relatable and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: makes people feel like they're not alone and have a friend.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: This is so sweet and one of the podcasts you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: asked for any ideas on what y'all should talk about,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: so I have a topic for you me sort of.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: It's been a common theme on both podcasts that Ashley
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: has never had a boyfriend and it's still a virgin. Well,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: I take get one step further. I'm twenty five and
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: haven't kissed anyone. Even typing it makes me want to
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: die l O L. Now that I'm twenty five, I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: feel like I put a ton of pressure on the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: idea of my first kiss, my first relationship, and I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: feel like it's never gonna happen. I'm trying to trust
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: God's timing, but it's getting annoying. Should I just forget
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: it and go kiss some guy in a bar? Or
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: should I wait for to be meaningful? My Instagram is well,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: we won't share it, and maybe there are some clues
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: on there as to why I'm permanently single. Any advice
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: would be awesome, Kate, Well, what a what a great email,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: what a great question? Um As, I think you should
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: start this because I think you can finaly relate with Kate.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I think that I have mentioned on the podcast before
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: that there are sometimes where I'm just like getting advice
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: from friends are like, just sleep with someone random and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: then you won't be emotionally attached to them, and then
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: it'll be over with and then other guys won't be
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: threatened or weird it out by it, and then you
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: could live a normal twenty nine year old life. Just
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: get rid of it. And sometimes that sounds tempting, not
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: with a stranger at a bar, but with like a
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: good looking guy friend or something like that. Um, but
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: as far as your first kiss, I kind of feel
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: like you can just throw it away. And I'm saying
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: this because I think it's different than sex. It's gonna
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: be a lot less emotionally. Uh, it's gonna you're gonna
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: get less emotionally attached with your first kiss than your
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: first time, or at least that's what I believe. And
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I think I've told you guys about my first kiss
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: on this podcast once before. It was really stupid. I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: was in a bar at nineteen and this guy just
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: like put his tongue to my throat and it was
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: messy and sloppy, and at first I was really sad
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: about it, but then I was like, well, at least
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: that's over with, and I think you probably feel the same.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: But Ben, do you have any other advice for her? Um?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: You know, I do. I think there's a few things
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: that we got to break down here. One is her
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: reasoning for not how me a kiss at this point,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: if it's an ethical or moral decision, then we got
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: to respect it. I think it's not ethical or moral.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: I think she's definitely religious, but I think she just
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: wants to kiss a boy. Yeah, And I mean even
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: coming you know, it's not a secret that I have
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: a faith and I try my best to to live
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: my life according to to what I believe my faith
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: asked of me and what Jesus asked of me. And
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: and obviously she points that out in there, so I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: think she's kind of leaning back on Okay, what what
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: she's asking, Like, what's my perspective on this? And my
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: perspective is this, purity is always something to be admired,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: admired and also sought after. I believe that in all
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: things in life. I think having a pure heart, having
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: a pure soul, having pure intentions UM towards friendships and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: relationships are always something UM that we should strive for.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: And so she Kate has something on on on me
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: and you, and the fact that she is um pure
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: in her physical interaction with others, so her life her her.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: The opportunity she has to kind of explore that later
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: on is going to be beautiful and I cannot imagine
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: the gift she's going to be able to give her husband,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: just in the sense of one day meeting a man saying, hey,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: you might be it. I have never kissed anybody else,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: And as weird as that sounds, and as hard as
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: that's been for me, I haven't exactly saved myself for
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: this moment. But you are the only man I will
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: ever kiss and the only man I ever want to kiss.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a cool thing that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: she's gonna be able to bring a partner in life. UM.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: My advice to her though UM, that's my thoughts. You
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: can disagree or agree. I get that. Please right into
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: UM to the podcast with you with your thoughts, and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: that my advice to her UM would be a little
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: different than yours actually in the sense of I don't
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: think she should throw it away. I think I think
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: she should make it um as meaningful as she believes
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: she wants to. I don't think she is at any
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: level UM hurting herself by kissing somebody. I don't think
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: that helds that uh physical UM emotion or I guess
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: the emotion to it when you when you kiss somebody.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's very strong. But I want her
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: to keep it special. She's kept a special at this point. UM.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Make sure it's the right person. Make sure it's the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: right scenario. And if it is her husband one day.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I've met people who have done this and I haven't, UM,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: but it is her husband one day. How beautiful a
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: story is that to one day tell your kids, UM,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: And So Kate, stay strong. You're not weird for it.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: You're not alone in this. You're not the only one
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: that hasn't kissed anybody. UM. Your story is just maybe
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: different than others. And so don't get sucked in UM
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: to this world that you feel like you need you
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: need to do something to stay relevant or you need
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: to stay cool. Just just take your time and do
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: you Kate, UM do what he feels right. It is
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: interesting to hear yours feedback on this because I'm giving
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: advice right now. That is the advice that I've been
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: getting and I don't. I don't listen to it though,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I guess I do think
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: of kiss and sex is totally different. But like I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: can't stand it when people are like, oh, just get
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: rid of it, like it's so unattractive, and it's like, well,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, So I'm not going to yea.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: So I mean, actually, this is maybe I don't know
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: if this helps or hurts. And I'm going to say
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: it like if and you and I've talked about this
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: off offline before, and this is this is I'm getting
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: a little more vulnerable than I probably enjoy doing on
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: this podcast. But if I were to kiss somebody right
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: now in my life, right I wanted to talk about this,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: it would hold a lot of weight. Yeah, it really
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: hard for me, you know, it would hold a lot
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: of weight. So so I guess from the place in
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: my life that I'm at more than it did when
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: I was in college and it just didn't really sit
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: with me every it didn't really matter to me. But
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: right now for me to kiss anybody holds a lot
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: of weight in it, in it almost because I even say,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: my my chest kind of gets tight, like I know
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: that that's really difficult for me. So I don't know
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: where Kates at. We don't know where Kate's at, We
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: don't know where anybody anybody's at this listen to this podcast.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: I think it matters the season of life and are
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: you prepared for it or not? Season of life. I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: love that because we are both into well, I love that,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: um and I think we need to you need to
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: take that into consideration, Kit. But also I am losing
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: my train of thought like crazy right now. So no,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: no, no no, I'm not no, not okay. So here's the thing, um,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Ben and I are both very in line in this
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: department together, Like we are so emotional and we'd like
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: to emotionally attach ourselves to people. So we're not the
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: kind of people who are going to go out and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: be like, oh no, go out and like you won't
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: feel anything, and it's fine to not feel anything. Like
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: we think that being physical with someone, no matter how
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: intense it is, is something that should come along with
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: emotion for the most part, or it always does come
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: along with motion. Okay. Um, Actually, great, great advice. That
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: was fun to talk about. I think it's interesting to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: hear from your perspective on this topic. Because it is
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: one that you you know, you know a lot about. Um,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: I want to your next email. But what else we got?
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: All right? This is from Brianna. I've been a fan
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: of the Bats since the very beginning. I have memories
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: of watching it with my mom at five years old.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Imagine my expitement when I found out that not only one,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: but to my favorite bachelor stars were starting a podcast together.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: You both compliment each other beautifully, and Ashley has got
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: a bubbly personality and Ben's the logical, thoughtful one that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: comes with a good banter. I especially, or especially in
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Ben's case, love hearing about Ashley's dating life stories and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Ben giving her advice. Maybe sometime soon we'll start hearing
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: stories about Ben jumping into the dating pool and actually
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: giving her input. Keep up the great work, and please
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: keep sharing some behind the scenes stories for us fans. Well,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I guess what Brian is asking us is when would
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Ben find himself interested in dating again? Ben? How many
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: months are we away from that? You know? I think
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: here recently? Actually, I've tried to stay away from talking
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: about those situations. I know they hurt people and they're
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: hard to talk about. Still, it makes sense, like that
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Is dating or relationships are things that
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: are very sensitive to me right now, and um, it's
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: just not something I'm wanting to talk about. Honestly, I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: guess the insight will hap into that is I don't know. Um,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know when I'm ready, and I
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: think I listened to a sermon this week by one
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: of my favorite pastors. His name is Andy Stanley out
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: of Atlanta, and he talked about heartbreak and breakups and
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: how you move forward and move on, and he recommended
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: you take a considerable amount of time in these in
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: this part of life where you're exiting out of a
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: breakup and you're broken, to find yourself, to fill yourself
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: with things that are good, to fill yourself with friendships,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: and to fill yourself with healthy habits and your faith
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: and prayer and meditation. So, honestly, as tempted it. As
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: much as I do desire relationship, I do, and you
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: know this, I desire commitment, and I desire to emotionally
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: attached myself to somebody and have somebody look at me
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: the way Rachel at Dean on this episode and say hey,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I got your back, I'm here for you. UM, I
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: am forcing myself if this makes sense to uh, you
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: get to know myself better. I don't know, um, to
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: find myself a little bit, to to figure out who
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: I am now. Um and Uh. Once I do that,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know when that is. Hopefully I'll have somebody
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: then in my life that will say, uh, we'll tell
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: me they love me and and and I'll know it.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Um So who knows, I don't know. They always come
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: around when you are concentrating on yourselves and you're trying
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: to be happy alone and that's when you'll find that person.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Or at least that's what they tell me. That's right. Um.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: So that's it. Sorry, I can't answer that better. I
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: hope one day to um we can be laughing and
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: sharing stories about my dating life. I don't want this
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: to always be about Ashley and her vulnerable moments. But
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: right now, UM, for at least this season of the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast, UM, she is the only one dating
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: and uh and and I'm the one listening. So with that,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: we gotta give a special thanks um once again, UM
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: too Fat bit Fun. Uh they have been an awesome
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