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S6 E9: Act II · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: 15 degrees, you can see your breath.
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  Speaker 2: Out here in the lake of fact. Breaking tables like
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  Speaker 2: it's poetry. Where else would you have to be? Pinto, Ron, Elvis,
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  Speaker 2: and the Leigh Poncho.
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  Speaker 3: The members that you need to know.
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  Speaker 4: I want you out.
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  Speaker 2: Here now, your family. Where else would you have to be?
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  Speaker 4: Welcome in to the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 4: Rob Crippen.
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  Speaker 3: Please like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram
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  Speaker 3: and Twitter at NickelCityCrew. This episode, along with all of
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  Speaker 3: our episodes, are presented by Crippen Legacy Entertainment here on
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  Speaker 3: Spreaker and StreamYard.
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  Speaker 4: We're so glad that you're.
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  Speaker 3: Joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills and NFL
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  Speaker 3: content again today. And as always, these are my Bills
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  Speaker 3: thoughts said out loud.
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  Speaker 2: It's a vibe so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's get straight to it.
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  Speaker 3: Really excited for tonight's episode, TGIF. Thank you all for
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  Speaker 3: joining us tonight. You see, I'm not in my normal space.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. Don't question me. Don't ask me
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  Speaker 3: anything right now. I'll explain it later. It's funny because
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  Speaker 3: everybody just knocks on The proverbial would across Bill's Mafia.
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  Speaker 3: Nickel City crew hoping we just get through the preseason healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like the Bills are pretty healthy. All things considered,
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  Speaker 3: joining me tonight, as always, Riding Shotgun, my co-host, Adam
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  Speaker 3: Dump Truck Rupczyk. Check him out on Instagram and Twitter
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  Speaker 3: at Adam Rupczyk, R-U-P-C-Z-Y-K. Holla at the crew, DT.
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  Speaker 4: You were incognito the other week. Now I am. Listen, man,
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  Speaker 4: we'll explain it in the tailgate report. I'm so happy
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  Speaker 4: to see you, brother. What's up, man? Holla at the crew.
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  Speaker 2: Nickel City. Nickel City. Rob, what's up, baby? Happy Friday. Rob,
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  Speaker 2: good to be here again. As always, last week was whack.
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  Speaker 2: It's our preseason, too, right? Our preseason, too, is we're
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  Speaker 2: teeing up for the big, big one, the one of
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  Speaker 2: the year, the one we get to parade, and we're
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  Speaker 2: sticking to that, right? Find the two-by-four. the 4x4, the
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  Speaker 2: 80-inch beam, whatever wood you got to find that's the
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  Speaker 2: biggest and knock the shit out of it. Because we
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  Speaker 2: had to date right now, I think, a very healthy preseason.
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  Speaker 2: We're sticking to everything that all our questions that were
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  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, who's this guy in the draft?
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  Speaker 2: We're kind of seeing who these guys might be on
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  Speaker 2: this team. No major injuries. 17's right on pace as
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into tonight. And it seems like we're right
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  Speaker 2: there with everything. The preseason went as storybook as it
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  Speaker 2: could have. So we better hope and knock on wood
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  Speaker 2: that it stays even better and it doesn't go the
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  Speaker 2: other way on us. But we're not even thinking like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's positive. It's Friday night. We're here on the crew, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I'm down, man. I'm really down and I'm really excited,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because it's been like a tradition for us.
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  Speaker 3: It's been, I guess it would seem like the last two,
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  Speaker 3: three years now where we got to talk about Josh.
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  Speaker 3: We got to talk about the quarterback. He's the most
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  Speaker 3: important player on the team. It's the most important position
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  Speaker 3: in the league. And the dynamic of what he's going
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  Speaker 3: through and sometimes how it can affect his play is
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  Speaker 3: to our success. And listen, there is no one else
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  Speaker 3: I would rather talk to about Josh Allen and the
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  Speaker 3: brain and how things move and how he's ticking and
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  Speaker 3: how things just go in the inner workings other than
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  Speaker 3: the incomparable editor-in-chief over at Buffalo Rumblings. Again, the, excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo fan base, the official Bills Mafia podcast network that
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  Speaker 3: DT and I podcast and simulcast on. the incomparable Robin Mundy.
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  Speaker 3: Holla at the crew, Mama Mundy.
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  Speaker 4: What's good? Hello. Holla at you all the way from Wyoming.
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  Speaker 4: Holla at the crew.
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  Speaker 1: I am just so happy to be here because it's
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  Speaker 1: Friday and I get to be with you guys and
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  Speaker 1: we get to talk about some football and some Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: my favorite subject.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. We are so happy
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  Speaker 4: to have you, Mama.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, DT, because I named the episode
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  Speaker 3: the way that I did because you've kind of been
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  Speaker 3: at the forefront of it for, for years now. And
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  Speaker 3: you've been kind of forecasting and foreshadowing what this year
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  Speaker 3: really was going to mean. And if you guys checked
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  Speaker 3: out the promo on Instagram, you know, like 30 is
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  Speaker 3: the new 20. And like Josh Allen's got that three
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  Speaker 3: in front of his name, his age now. And like,
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  Speaker 3: it's interesting DT, because it's a new stage. Everything you've
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  Speaker 3: talked about really is coming to fruition. This is act
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  Speaker 3: two of Josh's career. The first time that he's got
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  Speaker 3: a new head coach, the first time that he's been
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  Speaker 3: a father, the first time he's been married, all of
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  Speaker 3: these different things. It may seem trivial to some, but
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  Speaker 3: most people around Bills Mafia can understand and relate to
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  Speaker 3: the fact that when your life changes and situations and
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  Speaker 3: things in your life change, DT, it gives you a
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  Speaker 3: whole new perspective on what's important, what's not important, and
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  Speaker 3: down the rabbit hole we go. DT, this is officially
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  Speaker 3: act two.
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  Speaker 4: We're here.
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  Speaker 2: In the intro, Rob and Mama Mundy, good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: In the intro, we said, you know, that story is
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  Speaker 2: kind of going for us right now in the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: And we look back at 17 and each step he's
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  Speaker 2: made to be a franchise all-world generational quarterback. He came
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  Speaker 2: in with the raw intangibles. And then he showed you spurts,
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  Speaker 2: but he was a little crazy. And then he kept
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  Speaker 2: getting coached up and kept getting coached up and became
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  Speaker 2: more and more and more amazing each year. And now
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  Speaker 2: we're at the legacy-type talk. We should have had probably
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  Speaker 2: rings on his fingers well before then, and that's legacy, right?
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  Speaker 2: But now it's the step to legacy. It's the step
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about maybe him turning his mode to be
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  Speaker 2: a little more hard-ass and a little more we-gotta-get-the-job-done than
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  Speaker 2: a golden retriever energy. But I'm not talking about that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about him taking that next step in the
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  Speaker 2: legacy of being on the Mount Rushmore of Buffalo for
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  Speaker 2: the rest of his life. You still see Jim Kelly,
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  Speaker 2: Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, in town. I mean, Thurman lives here, right?
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  Speaker 2: And it's, you see them every day and Josh Allen's
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  Speaker 2: going to be even bigger than that 30 years from now.
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  Speaker 2: So that next step, that next legacy is the next
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  Speaker 2: step to this kind of perfect storybook. We don't have
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  Speaker 2: that ring yet, but maybe that's for a reason, right?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it is because it's coming to a huge, great
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  Speaker 2: ending that, you know, is going to be better than
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  Speaker 2: getting one early and, you know, glass half full, right?
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  Speaker 2: Rose color. Screw me for that. But the fact is
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  Speaker 2: that next chapter, it's been that next step, that coach,
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  Speaker 2: that next move. Now he has to take that legacy
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  Speaker 2: step into this role of his act two of his career.
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  Speaker 2: And with a new coach, with a lot of young guys,
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  Speaker 2: he is the guy people look to anymore. He's not
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  Speaker 2: just the young guy making crazy plays. He is the
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  Speaker 2: one we look to. And that'll be like that for
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  Speaker 2: the rest of our time with him on the team.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that next chapter, that opening to act two,
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  Speaker 2: that legacy. He is the coach now. He is the
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  Speaker 2: guy people look up to. And that's where we're at.
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  Speaker 3: Mama Mundi, it's interesting because we called you because you
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  Speaker 3: are the expert on the brain and you are the
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  Speaker 3: expert on how the inner workings of the brain works.
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  Speaker 4: And like I said, it's been a tradition for us
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  Speaker 4: these last few years.
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  Speaker 3: Mama Mundi, I have been fascinated by the fact that
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  Speaker 3: this young man has just turned 30. I have been
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  Speaker 3: fascinated by the fact that he just became a husband.
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  Speaker 4: I used to be married. I'm divorced now, but I
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  Speaker 4: used to be married. And one of the most.
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  Speaker 3: Life-altering changes for him, he became a father, Mama Mundi.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of changes for 17 entering this historic season
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  Speaker 3: with a new stadium, a new head coach. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of changes for 17. I don't want to underestimate. And
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  Speaker 3: that's not positive or negative. There's just been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of change in this young man's life.
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  Speaker 4: Would you agree?
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  Speaker 1: Totally. And most of the changes, excuse me, I believe
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  Speaker 1: are for the good. I really do.
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  Speaker 4: I like it. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier days of Josh's career, his personal life was not
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  Speaker 1: quite put together, would be my best way of saying it.
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  Speaker 4: That's saying it mildly. He was a kid, right?
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  Speaker 2: He was a kid, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And he wasn't happy in his personal life. And
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  Speaker 1: you can see that more now than you could see
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  Speaker 1: it at the time. Because Josh is that retriever, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's always going to be, you know, putting on a
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  Speaker 1: happy face. Well, now his happy face looks different to me.
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  Speaker 1: This man looks like a man who is at peace
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  Speaker 1: with himself. He looks like he's at peace with his life.
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  Speaker 1: He looks like he's at peace as a parent. Everything,
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  Speaker 1: as you said so beautifully, is coming together for him.
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  Speaker 1: And let's remember... That Peyton Manning did not win his
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  Speaker 1: first Super Bowl ring until he was in his ninth season.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Josh is in his ninth season. He's coming of age.
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  Speaker 1: What you said is so true. This is, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say it's a new Josh. It's an evolved Josh.
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  Speaker 1: He's no longer, like you said, the madman. You can
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  Speaker 1: see a guy who's at peace with his brain. and
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  Speaker 1: now his brain is free to do what he loves
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  Speaker 1: instead of feeling torn and i you know under pressure
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  Speaker 1: and stress this and stress that and who knows what
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  Speaker 1: was going on at the end of mcdermott's.
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  Speaker 3: Yes you are you already stole it yes you're right
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  Speaker 3: keep talking you're right you're.
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  Speaker 1: Right so so we don't know what happened with all
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 3: Because sometimes if somebody's always anxious around you, it makes
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  Speaker 3: you anxious, even if that may not be your nature.
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  Speaker 4: It makes you anxious.
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  Speaker 1: It does. And Josh gets the zoomies at times. You
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  Speaker 1: can see that. We saw it in the playoffs against Denver.
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  Speaker 1: Four turnovers?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, four turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: That was not a good place for him that day.
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  Speaker 1: But he has a new head coach. And interestingly, just
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  Speaker 1: because it was his offensive coordinator last couple of years
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  Speaker 1: and before that his quarterback coach, It doesn't matter. This
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  Speaker 1: is a different relationship. And Joe Brady has been pretty
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  Speaker 1: clear about that in terms of saying, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: the head coach now. In fact, if you pick this up,
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  Speaker 1: Josh was on the sidelines of the second, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was the second preseason game. And he wanted Joe
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  Speaker 1: Brady to throw a challenge flag. And he goes into
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  Speaker 1: Joe Brady's ear and Joe Brady's like, you know, cause
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  Speaker 1: he's got five people in his year at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: And you could tell Josh was like, Oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: overstepped my bounds. And he even said that in his
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  Speaker 1: press conference.
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  Speaker 4: It's not my buddy anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Not my buddy anymore. He's my head coach. So, so
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  Speaker 1: much has changed, but the focus that I make in
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  Speaker 1: my own, you know, from my own experience is looking
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  Speaker 1: at Josh and, And if you look into his face now,
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  Speaker 1: it is the face of a man who is on
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  Speaker 1: a mission.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Because he knows now he's got to deliver the goods.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. That's right. It's time, as they say.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, DT, Mama Monday hits on some points that I
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  Speaker 3: had thought about. I didn't even know if we were
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  Speaker 3: going to get to tonight because I know you and
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  Speaker 3: I have joked about the fact that the last two episodes,
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  Speaker 3: the offensive preview, defensive preview, were the last times that
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  Speaker 3: we would have to mention Sean McDermott for the new year.
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  Speaker 4: But DT, she.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of like, you know, Mama Monday, all you got
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  Speaker 3: to do is scratch that itch for me and I'm
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  Speaker 3: ready to go. DT, sometimes when somebody is hyper around you,
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  Speaker 3: it might make you more uptight and more hyper. You're
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  Speaker 3: not even a hyper type of person, but you might
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  Speaker 3: just get more anxious and that type of thing. I
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  Speaker 3: think that by the end of the tenure of Sean McDermott,
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  Speaker 3: there might have been like a swell, a vibe, as
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  Speaker 3: the kids would say, around the team, around the locker room, DT,
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  Speaker 3: where it might have been a situation where everybody, what
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  Speaker 3: was the, we talked about it last week, DT, or
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago with Nate Geary. What was
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  Speaker 3: the first thing that Alec Anderson said when Joe Brady
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  Speaker 3: was hired? He said, we don't have to walk around
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  Speaker 3: with our balls tight anymore. And everybody laughs because it's
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  Speaker 3: Alec Anderson and he's a character, but there's truth. There's like,
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  Speaker 3: there's some truth there. Like all jokes are funny because
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  Speaker 3: they're rooted in truth. I think that there was a
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  Speaker 3: tightness about the team and a tightness about just the
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  Speaker 3: regimen because of Sean McDermott and how militant he was. DT,
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  Speaker 3: speaking to Mama Mundy, like there could be just a,
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  Speaker 3: what did I say.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago?
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  Speaker 3: Just a more free attitude in respects to, free doesn't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily mean that I don't care about the details of
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  Speaker 3: my job. It just means that now I'm free to
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  Speaker 3: do my job to the best of my abilities without
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  Speaker 3: helicopter dad living over me. And I think that that,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think that that's worth something, DT.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is.
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  Speaker 2: Going, you know, keeping with the glass half full, right?
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  Speaker 2: The story, the fairy tale ending we're talking about. Like
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  Speaker 2: maybe he hasn't won because what's coming is going to
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  Speaker 2: make up for all of it and it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be even more magnificent. Maybe that was part of, we
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  Speaker 2: needed Deshaun McDermott because Josh Allen was so free and
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  Speaker 2: spazzy in the beginning of his career. We needed a
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  Speaker 2: guy to really hone him in and put those walls
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  Speaker 2: around him and build that structure. And now he understands
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  Speaker 2: that structure, but he can now break into another zone
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  Speaker 2: where he is not as held under that, but he
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  Speaker 2: knows his limits now. He knows how far he can
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  Speaker 2: get into the gray zone, but get back and come
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  Speaker 2: to business when he needs to. But now he has
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  Speaker 2: all that knowledge he's gained over these nine years. He's
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  Speaker 2: seen the defenses. He knows what type of linebacker he
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  Speaker 2: can give a little shoulder shake to. He knows where
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  Speaker 2: he can slot it. And all of that it's not
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  Speaker 2: like he's learning that anymore. So that pressure is away
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  Speaker 2: from him. That's why I think you're seeing a lot of, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the other things in his life, I think, accredit a
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  Speaker 2: lot to that too. But it's not like he's learning
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  Speaker 2: much anymore. You learn every day at the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: You see different stuff. I know what you mean.
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  Speaker 2: But he has mastered a lot of crafts, and now
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  Speaker 2: he is happy personally. He's not so worried about he's
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  Speaker 2: still prepping for game day, but he's not so worried.
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  Speaker 2: There's not so many stones unturned. He kind of knows
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  Speaker 2: what's going to happen and what to expect out there.
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  Speaker 2: And now pair that with the freedom. So maybe that
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  Speaker 2: Sean McDermott tightness was just what we needed to build
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  Speaker 2: the walls up just high enough to now. let him
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  Speaker 2: fly free. And that's so corny to say, right. But it, it,
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  Speaker 2: it might be true. Like we might've need, we might've
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  Speaker 2: needed the boundaries. Maybe you look back at other quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that like a Johnny Manziel or, you know,
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  Speaker 2: guys like that, that might've needed those boundaries and they
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  Speaker 2: could have flourished into something crazy. And it, and it
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  Speaker 2: turned out, they just kind of spun out. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying Josh would have been a degen like that,
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  Speaker 2: but he definitely, you know, there could have been other
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  Speaker 2: areas where he would just turn the ball over too
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  Speaker 2: much and lost all his confidence and never came back
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  Speaker 2: from it. So, That is, I think, something I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to use as a benefit right now until I know otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: that Sean McDermott's stiffness and helicopter dad helped mold him
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  Speaker 2: and learn the discipline, but now he doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: curfew anymore, but he still knows he's got to come
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  Speaker 2: and get some sleep before school night.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Go ahead, Mama. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring up some supporting evidence for
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  Speaker 1: what T.T. is saying here. If we recall... at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season last year in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: Josh was despondent.
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  Speaker 4: He was in tears.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't look up at Mr. Pegula.
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  Speaker 4: Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Pegula made a point of saying that was one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons why he fired Sean McDermott.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, whatever, Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Pegula.
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  Speaker 1: But the point is he reached a breaking point at
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  Speaker 1: the end of last season. And I think it all
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  Speaker 1: just came out of him. in his emotions. And Josh,
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  Speaker 1: people have to remember he's a Labrador retriever, but he's
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  Speaker 1: also highly emotional guy. He's a very emotional guy. And
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  Speaker 1: so when he's challenged or when I want to say
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  Speaker 1: this the right way, he's conflict avoidant in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that he wants everybody to get along. right? He wants
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  Speaker 1: everybody to be happy. He wants everybody to get along.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not fight. Let's not have stress. That stresses him out.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Absolutely stresses him out. So I think you're onto something
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: when you guys talk about how it was before, because
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: he felt constrained to some extent, to which now he
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't have that. He has this different relationship with Joe Brady.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to say that they're homeboys together
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I think Joe Brady's doing a decent job
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: of saying, laying down a boundary and saying, look, I'm
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the head coach. I coach the defense. I coach the offense.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: This is what I do. But Josh being the emotional
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: person that he is, you could tell at the end
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of last season, he was done. He was fried. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: something had to.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Emotionally. Yeah.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I think he was. I think he was completely worn
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: out emotionally. And how many years have you said.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: So were we, right? And we aren't playing every snap, right? Yeah,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: that's crazy.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Exactly. But you guys were the ones who talked about
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: this in terms of McDermott, his defense was not... I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: want to say fair to Josh... but the bend don't break,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: you know, winning games by three points when you probably
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: could have won by 20 points. If you had a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: different style defense, I've learned a lot since watching Jim
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Leonard and watching this new defense kind of come together.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: You can really see how different it was last year.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I, Rob's a, loading here so we'll we'll get
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: on but the with i agree on the defensive part
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: we don't even have to have a good defense right
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: it just has to be we just have to make
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the one stop and the defensive preview last week that
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: our guest had had some great takes on you know
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that one stop of you know it doesn't get worse
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: like we can't regress on the defensive end like yes
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: we were in there and and making you know in
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: enough to to win games but down the stretch in
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the playoffs we're we were one of the worst teams ever.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: So it's, we don't need the supporting cast as crazy as,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: you know, we think. And that would be my next question,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I guess, Mama Monday, like what is Josh, is it
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: another full step? Is it him ascending into another stratosphere
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: of talent we haven't seen, which would be so surprising
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: because he surprises us every day, but he comes out
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: with something crazy and we go and we, is that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: what it's going to take to win? Or is it
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: all it is, is just a few stops on defense
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and him doing what he does and that's enough to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: win i that's what we tussle with and i i
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: is there does the ceiling keep getting higher i tend
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to say it has to.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It can i absolutely believe that it can with him
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: because he is now i i challenge everyone look at
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: his face. Look at his face. Look what he's talking
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: in press conferences. Look at his face. Even when he's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: in the huddle, he looks different. He looks like a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: man on a mission and he knows what that mission is.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And he knows, he knows, he knows more than anybody. How,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: how much do you think he knows that he has
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to win the big one for Buffalo?
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: No.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: He knows he has said that was why he was
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: put on earth to win the big one for Buffalo.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And he's feeling that pressure because he wants to make
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it happen. Whereas in the past, he wanted to make
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: it happen, but he was putting pressure on himself. Now
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: he wants to make it happen, but he's coming from
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a different place. He's coming from a place of I'm ready.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I'm ready. Let's go.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: It's interesting, Mama, that you say that. And thank you
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: guys for, you know, I'm going through. My power went out.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: We're going to get through this. I'll talk about it
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: in the tailgate report. But I appreciate it because one
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: of the things that I always was wondering, Mama Mundy,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: leading into this was that, and DT and I have
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: talked about this, was that there's no way that the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Bills were going to hire someone that he didn't approve of.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So when you get the hire of Joe Brady, there
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: has to be some undertone of, This is my blessing.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I am ready for this. I am on board with
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: this move.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: And there's inherent pressure with that because of the fact
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: that the last coach was here for nine years and
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: he was getting ready to enter his 10th year and
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: he got fired because the success wasn't good enough. So
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: if they're making a change and they ask you who
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: you like, there's just some pressure on that as well.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Because you never want to be considered a coach killer.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Right.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And he served on the committee that elected him. the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: new coach.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Some people that you make, you remember hearing in the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: national media, Whoa, he's got too much power.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Why is he? That's hogwash hogwash.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's total bull. You want to tell me Tom
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Brady didn't have control and power. He had a lot
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: of control and power. So do a lot.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: When you, when you hurdle, when you hurdle linebackers and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: throw 80 yard bombs, you can do whatever the hell
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You're right, DT. You're right.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that there's a little bit of
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: inherent pressure with Joe Brady and the fact that Josh
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: was a part of this and the fact that they
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: did not go out of house. DT and I have
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: talked about how we thought that there were some merits
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: for not going out of house.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I wanted them to bring Brian Dabo back.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I even wanted them to look at Mike McDaniel, even
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: though he's different, doesn't mean that you have to be
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: scared of different. But when they hired Joe Brady, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: grabbed solace in the fact that obviously this is somebody
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: that Josh approved of. And I have to believe that
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: he's on board with it. And hopefully this is something where,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: like you spoke about earlier, it seems like a different relationship.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: It's not like the Dorsey-Allen relationship.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: This is different.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You know what else he's on board with?
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Jim Leonard.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. That's true, DT. That's true. Yeah.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: He's basically like, give me one stop. Whoever can do it,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I'll take them, right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The difference. But he fits the mold. He fits
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the mold of the Joe Brady, Jim Leonard, similar. The younger,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: aggressive guy. And Josh is like that. The point about
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the pressure, right?
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: The pressure on him, and sometimes it's a pressure cooker
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and it overboils. But what my most nervous case is,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and we talked about this, Rob. You know, when he
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: marries Haley and says, oh, she makes me know I'm
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: more than football. So is the pressure off? The pressure's
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: off enough where like in three, four years, he doesn't
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: do it. And he's like, well, I did all I could. Literally,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I couldn't have done more. And you can't argue with
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: him on that because he literally couldn't have done more.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Like he's the craziest thing we'll ever see. So is
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it three, four years? And he's like, well, I couldn't
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: have done more. The pressure's off, you know, peace. Or
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: is it like, does it still burn in him? And
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I want to say it still burns in him because
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: there is, he does have that kind of chill flow,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: but he is a competitor and gets into, he is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: super talented, but he also, the pressure makes diamonds, right?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And sometimes in the zone when he just goes nuclear,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: just goes alien mode, like he does that a lot,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: but there's times where he goes absolutely crazy. And that
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: takes the pressure to pull it out of you, right?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: That takes the pressure to pull that out of you.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: That's not a natural like, oh, I'm just going to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: do this. It takes you being pinned down to the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: ground and bursting out to be something crazy and magnificent
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: like that. So he still needs that. But I guess, yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: my biggest concern, and I don't think it's going to happen,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: but my biggest concern is three, four, five years from now,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I did it all. What else do you want? But
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I have a life now, and I'm good, and I'm 35,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to take any more hits and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: see you. That's what I'm most afraid of.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Okay. But I don't believe it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Put a pin in that one, please, because we're getting
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: ready to get back to it right now, and I
• 25:25
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• 25:28
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• 26:29
  Speaker 3: check them out as well. DT, you struck a nerve.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And again, I don't want to talk about McDermott and
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. I'm done talking about McDermott. I keep
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: trying to end and quit.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Listen. You hit a nerve, DT.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I've got to hear what Mama Monday has to say
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: because I'm of the camp that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Not only.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Will Josh Allen not play as long as we think
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: or we hope that he will, but the actual quote
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: that DT is referring to is something that I was.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: On like that, Mama Monday. I was on it like that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And how I took and I read it was that
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: it's not necessarily I'm getting ready to quit like DT.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Said in the next... four years or three years, something
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Nothing crazy like that. But it is also that I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: have value. Josh Allen has found value through his wife,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: which is nothing bad at all. That's a part of
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: maturing as a man or maturing as a woman or
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: maturing as an adult is when you find that partner,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: somebody that makes you understand.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: That you're not just your career.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: How many people just bust their ass and they're day
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: trading or whatever the case may be, or they're just
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: even if they go pick up trash, have a construction company,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: they are just so dedicated to their job.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: It's just so dedicated.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I watched this little show called Tires that came out
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: a couple years ago with that guy Shane Gillis. And
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: it's funny, funny, but in the show this last season,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: his dad is just so dedicated to his job that
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: he lost a good woman that was right there for him.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And she's like, I'm not going to do this if
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you're going to be just.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Married to your job.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Mama Mundy, I feel like Bill's mafia is not even
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: prepared for how short of a time we have in
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: act two. I'm not giving predictions because that would be stupid.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: That would be like me. Just go ahead and hand
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: out the lottery numbers, mama. And I know that you
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: can't do that either. So I'm not asking you for
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: a prediction. I do think it's way less than we
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: think because he has now found purpose outside of football.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: And that really for a man or another person, a woman,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: not discriminatory. Listen, if you find passion and purpose outside of,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Outside of your profession and is with your spouse, I.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Don't know, you're just not going to be around for
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the bullshit forever. Not forever. It won't be.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: He will never be Tom Brady because Tom Brady.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Was lost, which is why he hung around so long.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? No, no.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: And Tom Brady's still messed up.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: In the head.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: There's something you said, both of you. There's a difference
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: between need and want.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: I know that's right. Mm-hmm.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: OK, so Josh, prior to his happy life now at home,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: needed to win, needed pressure on him, need to win
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, need to win the Super Bowl, need
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. Right now.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I want to win. I'd love to win it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I want to win the Super Bowl. I want to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, if for no other reason what
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you said, and I completely agree. with you, what happens
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: if he wins the Super Bowl this year?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: We all die happy? We all die happy?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Besides that, what Baba Buddy is trying to say, he
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: might come up for a defense, and it may not
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: be many years after that. If we don't go back
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: to back, he may not just stick around.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: He may not. I know where she's going with it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think he would leave and play for another team.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: No.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I think he would retire.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe not after this year. He would go for a defense.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Not after this year.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd go for a defense. We'd want to be
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: back-to-back teams. I don't like this topic.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I don't like this topic. I know, but that's why
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: we brought her on, DT. That's why we brought her on.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Let's keep it real.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: That's the checkmark, right? That's the checkmark. That's his goal.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: He has to cross the finish line for the people
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: of Buffalo. That is what he feels in his heart.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: If he gets there, I don't think he quits after
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this year either, but I don't think that his career
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: is going to be as long as some people think either.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And then the inverse of that DT, the inverse is
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: that if he doesn't win this year or he doesn't
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: win it next year, and then we just keep going
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: and going, that I think is my bigger point, DT.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: is that it doesn't last forever. He will never be
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: an Aaron Rodgers. He will never be a Tom Brady.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: He will never be one of those quarterbacks. Even look
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: at Phillip Rivers, all those kids, and he still can't
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: break away. He goes to coaching, and it still can't
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: scratch the itch. Those ultra-competitive people, sometimes they're not able
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: to replace it when they retire. And that's one of
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: the biggest things about retiring as an athlete is that
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: they retire so early. They'll retire.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: You know what his itch is?
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: What's that? That golf?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: DT knows I always joke about that golf. Yes.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: And now he's making enough money where he can build
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: his own place.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: He can play golf for the rest of his life.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And he's a happy camper. 35. You said the number?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: That's the number I'm looking at, too.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: 35.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: If he hasn't won one by 35, I think you're right.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I think he may just hang it up. And let's remember...
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Whose body has takes more crap than him.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Right. And he never misses games.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Games, but it isn't because he doesn't get beat up.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: That's right. That's right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: He gets beat up big time.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: That's the difference. Now I think between need versus want.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Now he wants to win. Now he has the right
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: mindset to win. Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: He's at peace at home with himself in his home life.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So he goes, he's 30. That's five more seasons. I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: know everybody's thinking, well, he's got to play until he's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: at least 40. No, he doesn't. No.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I think that people that think that way, Mama Mundy, DT,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I think that people that think that way are just,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: they're lost. You know, they're lost on the actual real narrative.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I think that they're lost in their fandom.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: And that's okay. I understand that. You know, fan is
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: short for fanatic, so I get it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: DT, I think that the inverse is that if he
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't win it next year, if he doesn't win it
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the year after, I just don't know how many.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: More years we have of Josh Allen.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: So not only am I admonishing everyone to cherish what
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: we have, DT, but also understand that it's of the
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: utmost importance to get it done because Haley and now
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: his daughter have given him a different purpose. And if
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: he's already successful, already uber-rich, He will eventually get to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: a point where he is okay laying his head down,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: knowing I gave it everything I could. We didn't win
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, but that doesn't diminish my career. And
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I know that there's plenty of guys that feel the
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: same way. So maybe some of the 90s Bills feel
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: a different way, but there's plenty.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Of them that have found peace.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You'll be in the Hall of Fame.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they found peace with the fact that, man, we
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: got to the Super Bowl so many times, four times.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: We didn't win it, but they still have peace. You
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: watch that Four Fathers of Buffalo. They are full of pride.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: They are full of the fact that they got the
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: respect from the league and and their peers, like Mama
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Mundy said, they're in the Hall of Fame. DT, I
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: think that it will surprise a lot of people how
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: quickly he will be willing to leave even without a title.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I do think that that's.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Something to work at. Yeah, I agree. I mean, this
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: is something where he does take a lot of shots,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and he's getting better and better at that, but it's
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: inevitable in a 17-game season. I mean, we looked last
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: night at Shane Buchel, who is– tried his best to
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: get out of stuff. And Josh would obviously do a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: little better, but there's just, sometimes you're going to take
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: licks and he down the stretch, he's going to have
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to take them to, to make plays.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's a, I.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Know you don't like talking about it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Let's hope that this story builds itself up and he's
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: exploded into this, you know, into this crazy, you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: now super loaded player that he will get one and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about it. Cause we just
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: need one. Let's be real. Like I'll take 80, but
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I'll take one and die a happy man too. So,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and so will he, so would he, I think, right.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: He gets one this year and next year and then
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: three years more go by and he's out. Like we
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: gotta be okay with that. And we gotta be okay
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: with him finding peace. Right. We've got to be okay
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Finding something more than football. He gave us so much.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: He gave generations so much. Like, he deserves that, right,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: where he's not a robot. But, damn, give us one, please. Please.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: No, we all want one. I think that that is
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: definitely something that we can all agree on.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Now, as we wrap up tonight, the Nickel City crew
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: tailgate report. presented by Queen City Vintage. Head on over
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• 35:21
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• 35:26
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• 35:31
  Speaker 3: they literally have got you covered on everything. Nick, they've
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  Speaker 3: of Nickel City Crew. We'll be giving away swag all
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: season long. That starts with the Houston game week one. Well,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: as we wrap up tonight, Bills and the preseason undefeated. Again,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: most importantly, relatively healthy. We've got to see what's going
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: on with Khalil Shakir.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Excuse me.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Keon Coleman was out of his boot. It seemed like
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: yesterday on the sidelines. And listen, I don't think there's
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: many other injuries.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I know we've got McGovern.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: We've got to worry about him and see if he'll
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: have to have a backup in.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: There for week one.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: It seemed like, Mama Monday, we got out of there okay.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, the preseason, everybody just knocks on wood. Like
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I said, there comes that term again. It seems like
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the Bills got out of there okay after last night's.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Game against Pittsburgh.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: They did. And some people are saying the grass may
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: have contributed to some extent. Even Josh said something. He said,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not all scraped up like I used to be.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: So there's that. And I think, I don't know. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: think Josh is so ready for this season that we
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: all just have to get ready to take a big ride.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I can't wait.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: John Murphy aside. Okay.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: John Murphy aside. I think this team is set up
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: for success in part because nobody knows what to expect
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: from this.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: That's right. That's right.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: This defense isn't going to look anything like that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: No, we just talked about it last week on the
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: defensive preview. Bend but don't break is over. And you
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: can put that to the bank. You can take that
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: to the bank. Bend but don't break is over.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: And also, I have a question. How fast do you
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: think they slapped that booty on Jude Bowery?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, booty, booty.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: They stepped that boot on so fast and said, son,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you're going to redshirt this year.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is, an effective redshirt. Yeah, that's
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: exactly what it is. DT, we made it out pretty safe.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: So I can't, there's really no complaints. Last night, Pittsburgh. uh,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: against the bills at home at the new Ralph. And, um,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: you know, we came out.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Obviously we come back for a comeback victory. All the
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: backup guys are in there, but health wise game.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great game.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Shout out, shout out, man. Had a good, had
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a good preseason overall. And so Kyle Allen and, everybody
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: really we stayed healthy the new stadium yeah finally got
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: to see 13 and i know rob like that so
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: it it's on pace every all our questions are kind
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of being answered we still gotta roll it out week
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: one but that's the motto this year put the ball
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: down put the ball down and let's play so that's
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: what's next we're ready to go for that tailgate report
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: i mean this is uh uh can't wait Can't wait
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to get into it. Can't wait to have my first
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: one in two weeks. We got, what, two weeks? Labor
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Day next week. We'll have another show and then that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: And it's the best. The new stadium, everybody from– we
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: talked off the haters earlier. And a couple weeks ago,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: talked off the haters. And now I think a lot
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: more people have been there and got a chance to
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: see it. And the overall vibe has changed, right? It's beautiful. So, yeah.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: shame on everyone who was talking shit about it a
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: few weeks ago i called them out we're back off
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: of it and now people have seen it and and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it's going to be awesome and you know can't wait
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: to to get in there for for the real stuff
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: and and the boys but everything is setting up nice
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: if josh allen does take off into this next ascent
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: um it's going to be i can't wait for the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: ride mama monday i can't wait for that ride and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you know Nickel City Crew Tailgate Report, Queen City Vintage,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: their big event next Saturday. Just had to plug it.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Big event next Saturday at their store all day long.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: The line's going to be around the block. They do
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: it right there. So there it is.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: That's what's up. I ain't mad at you, man.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we really, excuse me, we really do appreciate their partnership. Well, Listen,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: it's funny, DT, because I was thinking about something yesterday
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what? You know, a
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: lot of times we'll drive to work. We'll drive to
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: go get something to eat. We'll drive here and there.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: And you're passing by cars in opposite directions. And, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: you really don't have any damn clue what the other
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: person is going through. And that is literally the fact
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: across the world. It's not even an American thing. It's
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: across the world. You never know what somebody else is
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: going through. I want Bill's Mafia. We've got Nickel City
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Crew here, obviously. This is the show. We are a subsection.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: We're all members of the Mafia. I'm calling on all
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: members of the Mafia to send positive energy, positive prayers, whatever,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: higher power. Whatever you do, send positive energy towards Mama
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Mundy's Way. I love her dearly. And I want her
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: to know that we really do appreciate you here. We
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: appreciate your time tonight.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: And I love you. Again, you are the mother of
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: the crew. So, I mean, there's only three of y'all
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: and you're one of them.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: So I really want you to know that we're sending
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: you positive thoughts and there's no details that even need
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: to be gotten into. Just Bill's Mafia, Nickel City Crew,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: send positive energy towards Mama Monday.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: She can use it. We could all use it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: It's crazy in this world where everybody seems to be
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: divided on everything down to what a chicken sandwich costs
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: and how it tasted. I mean, like we could fight
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: about anything damn near right now. So everybody around the crew,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: everyone around, excuse me, Bill's Mafia, please send Mama Mundy
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: some love. I know that she would appreciate it and
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: we appreciate it too. Mama Mundy, what are your plans
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: as we come up on this 2026 historic season?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I am so excited because I feel like Like this
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: year could be very special.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Like this year could be very, very special. You can
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: never predict injuries. You can never predict that kind of stuff.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: If a season goes south because you've lost so many players,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: but I see the depth that we have on this
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: team compared to years past cutting this team down to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the 53 man roster. I'm glad I don't have to
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: make the decisions. There's more depth. We've got more depth
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I think the defensive line, which
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I was most concerned about, most concerned about, I think
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they may turn out to be a real asset. The
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: defense as a whole, I, you know, I'll come on.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: You guys want to talk about Jim Leonard and how
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: much I am. I loved him as a player. I
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: absolutely loved him as a player. I cried when he left.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I'm now looking at him as this genius guy. Cause
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: he is, he can call plays. He sees things. And
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: did you hear what he said about Dion Walker? Freaked
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: me out. Walker has the ability to see things as
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: they happen.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. When I heard.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: That, I was like, Oh my God. And he dropped
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: 20 pounds and he's looking spry. And what he in
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: 11 snaps, what did he have a tackle for a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: loss in a sack? And he went crazy. So I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: more optimistic than I've been in a long time.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: That's what's up. Well, I appreciate your time tonight. I
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: really do.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: You know, DT again, Check her out, the editor-in-chief at
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Buffalo Fanbase, the official Bills Mafia podcast network that we
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: simulcast on.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: That's the incomparable Robin Mundy. I mean, listen, incomparable. You
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: saw Dolly Parton pass away the other day.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: When you get to incomparable status, that means you have
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: no peers.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: She is literally peerless price.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Robin Mundy, check her out, at Robin Mundy, WIO for Wyoming,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: the home of the Pokes, where Josh Allen, spend his
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: college days. We appreciate you, Mama Monday. DT, I mean,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm really in Mama Monday's boat. I wasn't
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: trying to scare you, but it is.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: You're the one.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: That talked about it more than me, and you were
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: talking about Act 2's coming.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: You said about three years ago. Then two years ago, like,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Act 2's coming. And then last year, like, this is
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: probably the last year before Act 2.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: And we weren't predicting necessarily McDermott being fired, but.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: It's just all... New DT. It's all new for 17.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: It's all new. New head coach. New defensive coordinator. New stadium.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: New wife. You know, not like he was married before.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: A new baby. Like, everything is new, man.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you, let's capitalize on this moment
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: because I don't know when it's going to last, but
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying it.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: And I would love to cash in DT. I think
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: we need to cash in. Like, soon, man. Soon, soon.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Well yeah first off mama monday great to see you
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: my day's always better when when i talk to you
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you're you're you're the best so thanks again and and
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: you know always and but rob you said a lot
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: of new things but you missed the biggest one new
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: ring i love it i love it i love this
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: fairy tale that we're building right now and i know
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: i've been criticized rose-colored glasses but fuck it let's go
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: The biggest story, the fairy tale is going to happen.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: 17 is ready to go. He's a new person. It's
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: a new look, new stadium, new coach, new ring.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: New ring. I love it. I love it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Listen, DT and I will hit you back next week.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: We've got our AFC preview. Who are the contenders? Who
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: are the pretenders? Who should we be worried about? You've
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: got teams like Denver. I think that I saw stat DT.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: They went 11 and two in one score games.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like, there is no fucking way that they are
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: repeating that. There's just no like mathematical way that you
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: could do that again.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Who are the teams that the bills should look out for?
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I know Cincinnati tried to beef up their defense. Their
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: quarterback sounds depressed as fuck.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Like there's a lot going on around this guy. He
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: sounds so depressed. Mama money.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm arguing with people on Twitter that like, man,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: just shut up.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Just shut up. I'm like, just, I would be worried
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: if I was a bagels fan. He doesn't sound happy.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: He just said last year, I need to be happy.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: I need to be happy. Then this year he's saying
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: it's time now. It's time now. He's trying to tell y'all,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: he's getting ready to pull the Carson Palmer.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: If it don't work out, I'm going to be wanting
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: out of here pretty soon. You got a Hollywood wife
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: or girlfriend.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man. There's a lot going on around
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: this conference.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: DT and I will break it down next week for
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: you guys, right on the eve of the season. DT,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: we are, We're around the corner. It's coming. Not next week,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: but right after that. Zero college football tomorrow. We're right here, man.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're playing meaningful ball. We're playing meaningful ball.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Ready to roll.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: This is out there. Spread love, not hate. These were
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: my Bills thoughts said out loud. Hit them with a
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Go Bills DT. Hit them with a Go Bills Mama Monday.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Mama. I love you, Mama. Hit them
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: with a Go Bills now. Go Bills.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Go Bills.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Go Bills. I love it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: I love it.