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Deadly school shooter’s teen victim tells horror story · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Climb Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x M Triumph
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Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. Around two thirty PM, the Broward
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Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office responds to reports of a shooting with
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Speaker 1: multiple injuries at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: I have to gone God by every plade on the
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Speaker 1: what side of the school? Kids were freaking out, stunt
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Speaker 1: kids from some kids are on the phone. SWAT teams
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Speaker 1: go from room to room, securing areas before allowing students
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Speaker 1: and teachers to evacuate. I don't want the Broward County
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Speaker 1: Sheriff says. At least seventeen people are dead. Seventeen people.
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Speaker 1: It's insane, it's it's it's unnecessary, and there's no words
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Speaker 1: to describe how I feel right now. Like I was shaking,
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Speaker 1: I was was panicking, was all out panicking about the school,
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Speaker 1: like so many million ends of parents every morning drop
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Speaker 1: their children at school or the bus stop, and you
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Speaker 1: don't think twice about it. Well, today I am A
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Speaker 1: deadly school shooting goes down in Florida. Marjorie Stonewin Douglas
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Speaker 1: High School in Parkland in the last hours, the scene
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Speaker 1: of a deadly mass shooting. Why listen to this five?
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Speaker 1: I have the gunshot, Nickgog, I have the gunshot victim
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Speaker 1: by the by the entering the west glade on the
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Speaker 1: west side of the school, or my active thing on
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Speaker 1: a bide. I don't want to We don't know. I
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Speaker 1: ended up building of thirteen building building. You will form
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Speaker 1: a corpora? Did anybody have to sit out of the
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Speaker 1: friend Carter alcohol the gate with me? Now? A little girl,
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Speaker 1: a young girl, Michelle, who was barricaded trying to save
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Speaker 1: her own life inside the school. I Ancy Grace, this
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Speaker 1: is crime stories. Thank you for being with us, with me,
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Speaker 1: Vincent Hill, Ashley Willcott, Sarah Michelle, Dr Bethany Marshall, Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: and John Limley. I want to go first to Michelle. Michelle.
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Speaker 1: Didmeyer barricaded in the school? Michelle? What happened? Um? So
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Speaker 1: we're in class, there's about like twenty minutes left in school,
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Speaker 1: and the fire alarm went off and we're all thinking,
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Speaker 1: like what is happening because we had a fire drill
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Speaker 1: earlier today and in my class, like the students are
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Speaker 1: trying to vinced my teacher that we don't have to
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Speaker 1: go because schools and named Ston, but she said, no,
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Speaker 1: it's an emergency. We have to go. And if that
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Speaker 1: student didn't try and convince my teacher, I probably would
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Speaker 1: have ran towards the area where the shooter was because
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Speaker 1: that's where my evacuation zone is. But since there was
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Speaker 1: a little later, there's a security guard downstairs telling us
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Speaker 1: to run the other way. At that moment, I still
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Speaker 1: thought it was a fire drill, so I then out
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Speaker 1: of the red gate. But then our assistant principal told
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Speaker 1: me to come back inside and go in the auditorium
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Speaker 1: and as I'm walking in, my aunt calls me because
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Speaker 1: my uncle is an emergency personnel, so he knew the
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Speaker 1: news right away, and they let me know what was happening.
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Speaker 1: Every single person around me, including the teachers, thought it
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Speaker 1: was an active shooter drill because they were told we
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Speaker 1: were going to have one soon just so we can
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Speaker 1: just you know, what to do in that situation, and
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Speaker 1: I I was the only person there who knew that
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Speaker 1: it was not a drill. And how to tell everybody know?
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Speaker 1: Like might everybody knows you're like, tell their family members
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Speaker 1: they love them, because there is a shooter. It's real.
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Speaker 1: And a minute, Michelle, how old are you. I'm seventeen.
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Speaker 1: I cannot imagine at seventeen. I mean, Ashley Wilcot at seventeen,
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Speaker 1: I was still watching cartoons. I'm still riding my bike outside.
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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine at that young age knowing you're
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Speaker 1: in the school with a school shooter. And it's a
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Speaker 1: whole different thing when you just see it on the
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Speaker 1: news and think, oh my gosh, this is so horrible.
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Speaker 1: But when you have family directly affected and you see
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Speaker 1: the videos, it is frightening traumatic and no seventeen year
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Speaker 1: old should have to go through it. But they also
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Speaker 1: need to realize, I mean, this is severe trauma they
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Speaker 1: now have gone through at a young age of seventeen. Michelle.
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Speaker 1: So you find out because you have a relative in
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Speaker 1: law enforcement or emergency personnel, and you start telling everybody, guys,
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Speaker 1: this is real, what what what was happening around you?
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Speaker 1: What was everybody doing, and saying everybody was just like
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Speaker 1: I've been calm, like it wasn't serious. Then they're telling
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Speaker 1: everybody like even the teachers were saying like it's just
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Speaker 1: a drill, like remain calm. And I had to tell
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Speaker 1: the teacher, I'm like, it's not real. My aunt just
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Speaker 1: called me and let me know what was happening, and
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Speaker 1: you know, we just need to stop speaking and get
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Speaker 1: down and like quiet so that way he doesn't know
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Speaker 1: that we're in here. And I it broke my heart
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Speaker 1: having to tell all these people that it was on campus,
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Speaker 1: Like I was the one who had to do it,
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Speaker 1: and I just just sat there on the auto turning
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Speaker 1: S four, shaking for the whole entire two hours that
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Speaker 1: I was there. What did you hear? What could you
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Speaker 1: hear in the background? Um, there was a security guard
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Speaker 1: in our room, so he was like giving us updates
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Speaker 1: about what's happening, and like there's just a bunch of
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Speaker 1: cops outside and they would come in and scream at
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Speaker 1: us to get down because some students weren't, and then
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Speaker 1: cops came in to like search behind the stage. And
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Speaker 1: it was just all very scary of everything that was happening.
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Speaker 1: So you were lying, you were lying on the floor.
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Speaker 1: How were you barricaded? Yeah, like we were um in
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Speaker 1: between the seats of the auditorium on the floor. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to what we have obtained sound of the shooting.
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now with the latest John Limley crime stories.
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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter John, what do we know about the shooter,
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Speaker 1: Nicholas Cruise right now, the team who storms Marjorie Stone
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Speaker 1: and Douglas High School in Parkland on Wednesday afternoon. We
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Speaker 1: know he's armed with an assault rifle. What more do
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Speaker 1: we know, Nancy? Just in the past hour, we've that
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Speaker 1: he has been charged with seventeen counts of premeditated murder.
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Speaker 1: His name is Nicholas Cruise. He was booked into jail
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Speaker 1: in Broward County. He had been expelled from Marjorie Stone
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Speaker 1: and Douglas High School, UH, which is a small little
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Speaker 1: city about an hour north of Miami, which on Wednesday
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Speaker 1: became the site of one of the deadliest shootings in
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Speaker 1: modern US history, adding to the growing toll of mass
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Speaker 1: killings on school grounds. For months, UH students teachers had
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Speaker 1: been told that if he was to enter the campus,
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Speaker 1: step foot on the campus, especially with a backpack, that
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Speaker 1: students teachers were to immediately alert security because he had
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Speaker 1: been posting for quite some time, especially on Instagram, photos
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Speaker 1: of this arsenal of weapons he had at at seventeen UH.
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Speaker 1: These posts about how he was going to take down
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Speaker 1: law enforcement, how he was going to shoot up the school,
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Speaker 1: and as we now know, that is exactly what he did.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand this how everybody at school knew about
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Speaker 1: a teen boy having an arsenal and posting about shooting
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Speaker 1: up the school, but the parents didn't know. And another
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Speaker 1: thing I don't understand joining me is Wendy Patrick, California Prosecutor.
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Speaker 1: If the school knew about it, how come the parents
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Speaker 1: didn't know about it? You know what, if I had
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Speaker 1: a gun in this house, it would be out in
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Speaker 1: the trash jump pronto. How did they not know about it?
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Speaker 1: If the school knew about it? And another thing, Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: when you post photos and threats about blowing up the school,
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Speaker 1: that's what we call in the law a terroristic threat,
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Speaker 1: and that is a felony. Why why was this kid
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Speaker 1: just walking free making all these threats? Wendy. Yeah. One
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Speaker 1: of the things Nancy, you and I know from our
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Speaker 1: careers is it is tricky when you talk about how
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Speaker 1: to analyze things that are posted online and distinguishing between
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Speaker 1: free speech that is completely offensive and crime threatening crime
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Speaker 1: something that's actionable, something that can be acted upon. You know.
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Speaker 1: The problem, One of the problems I should say with
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Speaker 1: cases like this is first of all, we have to
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Speaker 1: assume people saw what was being posted online, because let's
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Speaker 1: face it, that's why I minute, wait, wait, wait, Wendy.
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Speaker 1: We just heard that from Limley that the school was
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Speaker 1: already on alert if they saw the guy come on campus.
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Speaker 1: So they knew, right, But that's only the first step. Secondly,
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Speaker 1: they've got to analyze whether or not it's something they
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Speaker 1: can go arrest somebody for. So it sounds like it's
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Speaker 1: stalled with the first step. People saw this, they knew
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Speaker 1: about it. Uh, they knew that he was a threat,
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Speaker 1: and they actually worked administratively. The question now is was
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Speaker 1: there sufficient evidence? And we're now seeing it and we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be seeing more of it to actually decide, well,
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Speaker 1: this is something we can charge criminally and then we'll
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Speaker 1: be able to arrest him, we can get restraining order.
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Speaker 1: So it seems like it's stalled between step and did it.
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Speaker 1: And when I hear stall, that's the worst thing you
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Speaker 1: want to hear with me is Michelle Ditmeyer, who actually
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Speaker 1: a teen girl who had to barricade herself in the
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Speaker 1: school as one of the matt worst mass shootings in
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Speaker 1: US history, goes down to Michelle Ditmyer also joining me
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Speaker 1: her little friend Sarah Derby. Michelle, did you know this
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Speaker 1: guy or know of him? Um? I have seen him
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Speaker 1: around school before, but he got expelled before I was
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Speaker 1: in the school for a long amount of time. But everybody,
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Speaker 1: like at the school would call him and like, I
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Speaker 1: just kind of knew who creepy and psychotic. I mean
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Speaker 1: when you say kind of knew he was creepy and psychotic,
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm hearing all the warning signs that the
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Speaker 1: school should have been on alert. When you say everybody
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Speaker 1: knew he was creepy and psychotic? Okay, what do you
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Speaker 1: mean by Michelle. I had people in my high school class,
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Speaker 1: which was very small, that we thought were way one
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Speaker 1: guy in particular way high, strong, very emotional um would
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Speaker 1: would would break down. Was on the football team and
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Speaker 1: would break down before a game, sobbing and crying. And
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Speaker 1: I mean it was just I guess, stressed out and
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Speaker 1: you knew then, and sure enough it's followed through throughout
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Speaker 1: his life. I mean, you know, Uh, Michelle, tell me
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Speaker 1: about this guy. When you say creepy and psychotic, I
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Speaker 1: mean was it the way he dressed, was it the
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Speaker 1: way he acted? Was it something he said? What what
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Speaker 1: about him kind of like all of those. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: the school did do everything they could. They wouldn't let
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Speaker 1: him bring a backpack on school. They expelled him because
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Speaker 1: of behavioral issues. For all of I know, the school
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Speaker 1: followed every procedure correctly, and they are not to blame
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Speaker 1: for this at all. You know, I think she's right
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Speaker 1: to a large degree. With me, a little teen girl,
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Speaker 1: Michelle Dittmeyer, her memory of high school is not the
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Speaker 1: senior prom or running for student body office. Her memory
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Speaker 1: is lying down, hiding behind a barricade, hoping she would
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Speaker 1: live to see her parents again, to see her family again.
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Speaker 1: After one of the worst mass shootings in US history
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Speaker 1: and a school goes down. We understand that a math teacher,
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Speaker 1: Jim Guard, who taught crews last year, says what we
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Speaker 1: were told last year he was allowed on campus with
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Speaker 1: a backpack. There were problems with him last year, threatening students.
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Speaker 1: He was asked to leave campus. Apparently he had been suspended.
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Speaker 1: You know, other students claim quote, I knew it was
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Speaker 1: going to be him. To Dr Bethany Marshall, l a
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Speaker 1: psychoanalysts joining us. You know, I've had so many victims
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Speaker 1: say I knew this was gonna happen. I talked about it.
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Speaker 1: We knew this was gonna happen. Everybody knew, Bethany, I
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Speaker 1: find it very difficult to believe this guy was not
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Speaker 1: already behind bars. I don't care if he's just a
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Speaker 1: team I'm surpressed to Nancy, and you know, all of
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Speaker 1: these school shooters, in fact, math shooters in general, always
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Speaker 1: break about it to somebody. They write a letter, they
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Speaker 1: post online, they have pictures of themselves on Instagram and Facebook.
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Speaker 1: They predict their own crimes. So these do not come
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Speaker 1: from out of the blue. It's very easy to tell
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Speaker 1: who is going to become a mass shooter because they
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Speaker 1: do not keep it to themselves. Even though often there
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Speaker 1: are loners. They do share their thoughts, and so the
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Speaker 1: idea that somebody just snaps, or you know, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, they just go crazy and grab a bunch
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Speaker 1: of guns is not a very sound way to think
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Speaker 1: about all of this. They contemplated unconsciously and consciously for months,
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Speaker 1: if not years. Look, I'm not looking for anybody to blame.
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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm about. I'm trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: why this happened, what could have been done to prevent it?
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Speaker 1: So it won't happen again. And to me, they're all
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Speaker 1: the signs Vincent, he'll probably an investigator joining me. I
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Speaker 1: mean online, this guy shared photos of him brutalizing animals.
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Speaker 1: He literally had posted on Instagram pictures of animals he killed. Gruesome.
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Speaker 1: He physically assaulted other students, and from what I'm understanding,
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Speaker 1: Vincent made threats on the school. I mean, when you
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Speaker 1: tell a kid you can't come on the school with
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Speaker 1: a backpack, it's because you think they've got a gun
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Speaker 1: in it. I mean, how how can it be argued
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Speaker 1: now the school wasn't unnoticed when they already told a
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Speaker 1: guy you can't come to school with the backpack because
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Speaker 1: there may be a gun in it. Yeah. Absolutely, Nancy
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Speaker 1: and I think Wendy touched on this. You have to
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Speaker 1: question what you can make a rest for what you
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Speaker 1: can investigate on social media because people live vicariously through
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Speaker 1: social media. But I think there's a much bigger issue
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Speaker 1: that no one's touching on. Yes, the school was unnoticed. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the school said he can't come on with the backpack.
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Speaker 1: But you're talking about a very large structure that holds
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Speaker 1: about people with two uh school resource officers that that
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Speaker 1: is a lot of ground to cover, a lot of
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Speaker 1: bodies to watch to try to prevent one person from
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Speaker 1: getting onto that school. So we need to start talking
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Speaker 1: about how do we secure our schools better to prevent this,
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Speaker 1: or if it does start to happen, how do we
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Speaker 1: make it go away a lot faster and more obsily
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Speaker 1: with less lives taken. Also with me, in addition to
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Speaker 1: Michelle Didmeyer who had to barricade herself in the school
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Speaker 1: as the shots rang out, is Sarah Derby her friend Michelle,
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Speaker 1: what was going through your mind as you're in there barricaded,
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Speaker 1: knowing there's a shooter stalking the campus opening fire Right
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Speaker 1: right at that moment, my mind was blank. I just
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Speaker 1: was thinking about all my family members. I was trying
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Speaker 1: to not let my grandma in New York know, but
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Speaker 1: the news reached there. Um, I just I didn't want
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Speaker 1: my family members to worry about me, even though they would,
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Speaker 1: And honestly, that's all I was thinking about with all
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Speaker 1: the people outside of that school, that I might never
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Speaker 1: see you again. Can you even and imagine the desperate
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Speaker 1: parents of these students still in lockdown, rushing to the
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Speaker 1: scene to find out if your child is one that
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Speaker 1: was shot dead. I can barely even put words to it.
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Speaker 1: Sarah Derby, what is your recollection of what happened? Dear?
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Speaker 1: Um like disgusted it. I was driving home and we
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Speaker 1: got a call him and said someone there's been a
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Speaker 1: shooting at St. Man. So I automatically get on the
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Speaker 1: phone to call Michelle because we've been texting five minutes
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Speaker 1: before any of this happened, like we've been we were
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Speaker 1: in contact all day, and she didn't answer, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, maybe her phone dad, because the phone's
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Speaker 1: never charged. I was going through these things and I
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Speaker 1: called by the friend Samantha, and she said, no, this
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Speaker 1: is this is real, this is happening. And my first
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Speaker 1: instinct was truly like I started like head booking at home,
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Speaker 1: like I was like, I have to get home. I
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Speaker 1: have to get home, like this is I have to
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Speaker 1: do something. And it's just like the auto feeling of
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Speaker 1: like both like discussed and just like anger that like
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Speaker 1: someone like I knows multi people, I know this clothes
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Speaker 1: have to deal with something that Like you said, who Senior?
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Speaker 1: He is not going to be the same. That's why
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Speaker 1: I thought, like, now who Senior is just plost someone
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Speaker 1: that she survived in that shooting which should never have happened.
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Speaker 1: Seventeen dead when a teen boy opens fire with a
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Speaker 1: semi automatic rifle at a Parkland, Florida high school, fourteen
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Speaker 1: others wounded. Five have those have suffered life threatening injuries
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Speaker 1: or any critical condition right now. The teen boy, Nicholas Cruise,
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Speaker 1: concealed himself in a crowd fleeing Marjorie Stone and Douglas
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Speaker 1: High School. He clearly had planned this, even wearing a
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Speaker 1: gas mask to cover his face when he went in.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine your child sitting at school looking up
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Speaker 1: and seeing a man with a gas mask covering his
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Speaker 1: face wielding a semi autumn at a weapon He took
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Speaker 1: uber to campus. That's how we know how he got there.
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Speaker 1: Seventeen dead, fourteen wounded, five in critical condition right now.
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Speaker 1: This guy wielding an a R fifteen semi automatic. On YouTube,
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Speaker 1: he says, I'm going to be a professional school shooter.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be a professional school shooter. And nobody
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Speaker 1: knew if the school told him not to bring a backpack,
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Speaker 1: then to you, John Limley. They hadn't told his parents
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Speaker 1: of the problem. He's posting photos of guns online. John well,
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Speaker 1: that's the thing, Nancy. We have learned in the past
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Speaker 1: several hours a little bit about Nicholas to his home life.
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Speaker 1: His father died about thirteen fourteen years ago. His mother
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Speaker 1: there died in November of this past year, and people
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Speaker 1: are beginning to wonder if this really set in motion
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Speaker 1: what happened yesterday in Parkland. Listen to this. He's been
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Speaker 1: a trouble kid, and he'd always had like a certain
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Speaker 1: amount of you know, issues going on. Uh. He shot
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Speaker 1: guns because he felt that gave him, I guess, uh
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Speaker 1: an exhilarating feeling. Uh his guns. Um he showed me
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Speaker 1: personally through his phone and stuff like that. I always
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Speaker 1: I started, I stayed clear of him most of the
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Speaker 1: time during uh my time in an alternate school. I
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Speaker 1: didn't want to be with him at all because I
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Speaker 1: felt like I didn't want to cause into conflict with
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Speaker 1: him because he gets an impression he gave off. You
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Speaker 1: were an alternative school with him, Yes, I actually got
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Speaker 1: kicked out my my junior year and then went into
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Speaker 1: alternative school h O c lc UM and that's where
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Speaker 1: I met him again. After dining kicked down to my
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Speaker 1: has gone down. Imagine getting the call that your child
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Speaker 1: school is in lockdown because there is a quote active shooter.
22:54
Speaker 1: You get there, the school's barricaded and there's a shooter inside.
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Speaker 1: To John in LA Crime Stories, investigative reporter, explain to
23:03
Speaker 1: me what happened. How parents found out that their children
23:09
Speaker 1: were barricaded behind school walls with a gunman in there,
23:14
Speaker 1: with an a R fifteen wearing a gas mask. What
23:16
Speaker 1: are the parents supposed to do? Sit outside of the
23:18
Speaker 1: parking lot and twiddle their thumbs Nancy, To gain a
23:22
Speaker 1: sense of just how this horrific day unfolded. I think
23:25
Speaker 1: it's good just to hear how how an ordinary day
23:30
Speaker 1: it began. The middle of the week. It's Wednesday, students
23:34
Speaker 1: are already thinking about the weekend, but it's also Valentine's Day.
23:38
Speaker 1: Students are exchanging cards, balloons, little stuffed animals. In many ways,
23:43
Speaker 1: it's a day that you and I would recall from
23:46
Speaker 1: our growing up years. Of course, we know it ends
23:49
Speaker 1: far from that. Uh. Students had a little excitement around
23:52
Speaker 1: nine am. As we've heard, there was a fire drill.
23:56
Speaker 1: Everyone followed procedure, left the building, walked to their designated
23:59
Speaker 1: safe spots, then went back to classes. The rest of
24:02
Speaker 1: the day fairly unremarkable until just a few minutes before
24:07
Speaker 1: the final bell was set to ring. David Hogg is
24:11
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old student at Stoneman Douglas High School.
24:15
Speaker 1: He was in an environmental science class. The teacher had
24:18
Speaker 1: just passed out worksheets before they were set to go home,
24:22
Speaker 1: and right at two thirty, David and his classmates heard
24:26
Speaker 1: a loud bang. Everyone looked at each other. They thought
24:30
Speaker 1: that sounded a lot like a gun. David's teacher quickly
24:34
Speaker 1: closed the door, and within seconds that's when the fire
24:37
Speaker 1: alarm goes off. Everyone students and teachers thought it was
24:41
Speaker 1: strange to have to fire drills in the same day,
24:45
Speaker 1: but didn't question it. They got up started walking to
24:48
Speaker 1: the evacuation zone just as they had done several hours before.
24:52
Speaker 1: As David's class is walking away from the classroom, they
24:56
Speaker 1: see this tsunami of people running to were them. They
25:01
Speaker 1: turned and followed the crowd down the corridor. What they
25:04
Speaker 1: didn't realize was they were heading straight toward a shooter.
25:09
Speaker 1: Just after David's class had left the building, a code
25:12
Speaker 1: red had been announced right after the fire alarm. That means,
25:15
Speaker 1: of course, an active shooter on campus. Luckily for David
25:19
Speaker 1: and his classmates, there was a heroic janitor that stopped
25:23
Speaker 1: them as they were running down the hall. UH. The
25:26
Speaker 1: man warned them that they were heading straight for the gunmen.
25:29
Speaker 1: After they turned around, Ashley Kurt, the teacher in charge
25:33
Speaker 1: of the culinary program there at the school, funneled the
25:36
Speaker 1: crowd into her classroom and within thirty seconds she had
25:39
Speaker 1: thirty forty people in there. The lights were switched off.
25:43
Speaker 1: One girl had a panic attack was given water, but
25:46
Speaker 1: David said most of everyone was relatively calm. Then. To
25:51
Speaker 1: make it all sink in just what danger they were in,
25:54
Speaker 1: that's when news of the shooting started filtering through on
25:58
Speaker 1: the student's phone owns. In fact, there was one UH
26:02
Speaker 1: student that was live casting what was going on in
26:07
Speaker 1: one of the nearby classrooms, and of course at this
26:09
Speaker 1: point all they could do was sit huddled in that
26:12
Speaker 1: dark classroom and wait. To Michelle Ditmeyer, who lived through this.
26:20
Speaker 1: At first, you thought, as you were telling us earlier,
26:22
Speaker 1: that this was just a drill, just a practice. But
26:26
Speaker 1: you thought it was odd because you'd already had one
26:28
Speaker 1: fire drill that morning. Tell me again when you learned
26:32
Speaker 1: there was going to be another practice drill. What happened, Well,
26:36
Speaker 1: we were like after winter break. All of the teachers
26:40
Speaker 1: came up like with new procedures and went through every
26:43
Speaker 1: single class like classroom they had, every single class period.
26:48
Speaker 1: I had, every single teacher told us what to do
26:50
Speaker 1: in every single situation that could possibly happen. And we
26:54
Speaker 1: were told we were going to have a drill so
26:55
Speaker 1: we know what to do, and um, everybody just thought
27:00
Speaker 1: it was a drill and remained calm. And I was
27:03
Speaker 1: the only person who knew before the media knew and
27:06
Speaker 1: everything about what happened. And I was trying to tell
27:10
Speaker 1: everybody like, it's not real, Like I mean, it is real,
27:14
Speaker 1: it's not a drill, and I just crazy. You know,
27:21
Speaker 1: Sarah Derby, you're seeing the fallout on your friend and
27:25
Speaker 1: everyone else that lived through this, explain how all the students,
27:31
Speaker 1: their children in the eyes of the law are responding
27:34
Speaker 1: and reacting. Sarah, it's weird because everyone's here, especially in
27:39
Speaker 1: Cool Springs Styla, which neighbor is Parkland. You everyone knows
27:43
Speaker 1: someone that goes to Stoman, You go to the mall
27:44
Speaker 1: in this twelve Stoman Douglass kids that you could name
27:47
Speaker 1: off and so now everyone's just in the same thing
27:51
Speaker 1: that all like what what happened? Like what is this?
27:54
Speaker 1: It's just like a tense feeling because I fund to
27:58
Speaker 1: my school I go to and a lot of y'all
28:01
Speaker 1: go to school, and they all texted me and they said,
28:03
Speaker 1: please tell me don't know someone that was in the school,
28:05
Speaker 1: please please out And I'm like, I can't. You know,
28:07
Speaker 1: it would cool swinging parks into small community. We all
28:10
Speaker 1: know each like y'all know someone goes to Stonman Douglas.
28:13
Speaker 1: Now it's having like thinking that I really people, you
28:17
Speaker 1: know that people you see on the street. We're sitting
28:19
Speaker 1: in the building fighting for their life for a reason
28:22
Speaker 1: that there's no reason for its time to be done.
28:25
Speaker 1: Looking at this guy, Sarah and Michelle, I keep looking
28:29
Speaker 1: at this teen boy Cruise. The universal responses from students
28:36
Speaker 1: and teachers, I wasn't surprised. Well, if they suspected this
28:40
Speaker 1: was going to happen, why was he there? He had
28:42
Speaker 1: already been kicked out of two other schools. This is
28:46
Speaker 1: what I know from another student that had a couple
28:48
Speaker 1: of classes with CRUs Quote. I got paired with him
28:51
Speaker 1: for a project. He started talking to me about his life,
28:54
Speaker 1: how he had been held back twice, already expelled from
28:58
Speaker 1: to school. He liked to reckless things, He enjoyed hunting.
29:03
Speaker 1: I never got close to him because I always had
29:05
Speaker 1: a feeling there was something wrong. Well we know that now,
29:10
Speaker 1: Michelle Ditmyer. What do we know about the students that
29:16
Speaker 1: lost their lives? Um? Um two of them are actually
29:23
Speaker 1: in my graduating class that I know of. UM One
29:27
Speaker 1: I've known since elementary school. He lives in the neighborhood
29:30
Speaker 1: right next to me. And I just can't even imagine
29:34
Speaker 1: how all they're very close friends and family, are gonna like,
29:39
Speaker 1: how they're gonna cope from this, And it's just gonna
29:42
Speaker 1: be so weird to be at graduation at com with
29:45
Speaker 1: these people that are going to be there anymore. And
29:49
Speaker 1: one of them was in my classroom, and that class
29:52
Speaker 1: is never going to be the same. I I can
29:55
Speaker 1: only imagine, Ashley Wilcot. I can only imagine what parents
30:01
Speaker 1: are going through this morning. And Ashley, I don't believe
30:05
Speaker 1: that the school is innocent in this, because all the
30:09
Speaker 1: students are saying, well, he was psychotic, he was weird.
30:12
Speaker 1: He'd already been told not to come to school with
30:14
Speaker 1: a backpack, So how did he get in? How in
30:18
Speaker 1: between classes did he get in? Aren't school supposed to
30:21
Speaker 1: be locked? You know? That's interesting? I asked that specific question.
30:25
Speaker 1: It is an open campus quite frankly, Nancy, Many many
30:28
Speaker 1: public schools throughout our nation or open campuses, meaning people
30:32
Speaker 1: can come in and out. So is that going to
30:35
Speaker 1: change in the future. Perhaps Here's the other issue I have,
30:38
Speaker 1: not just for the school, but for anyone who knows
30:41
Speaker 1: this child. As a parent, I would be saying, listen,
30:45
Speaker 1: if you threatened to hurt or kill yourself or someone else,
30:49
Speaker 1: it is grounds to be what we call ten thirteen.
30:53
Speaker 1: That means put in a mental institution facility for treatment
30:58
Speaker 1: so they can treat you, and it's somewhere that you
31:01
Speaker 1: are not able to get out and do things to
31:04
Speaker 1: actually hurt people. There were so many red flags in
31:08
Speaker 1: this case, So why didn't that happen? Why didn't someone say, hey,
31:13
Speaker 1: he really is threatening to hurt people, and he seems
31:16
Speaker 1: to be a little crazy. We need to get him
31:19
Speaker 1: some real help so that he could be in a
31:21
Speaker 1: facility where he would be unable to actually carry out
31:25
Speaker 1: his threats. Why didn't that happen? Well, Wenday, I think
31:29
Speaker 1: earlier this morning they did report that late last year
31:33
Speaker 1: he was under the care of psychiatric doctors. So obviously
31:37
Speaker 1: there was something something there last year that people saw
31:40
Speaker 1: that he needed help for. Unfortunately, it did not solve
31:43
Speaker 1: this case. Here, you know, I'm going back to this
31:47
Speaker 1: to Dr Bethany Marshall. Video emerging from inside the school
31:52
Speaker 1: has one little girl crashed under her desk, holding her
31:57
Speaker 1: hands up to her mouth, uh, clutching her hand over
32:01
Speaker 1: her mouth as gunshots are blaring in the background. You
32:07
Speaker 1: see children crying, screaming, bangs in the background, police cars
32:15
Speaker 1: outside in a school. I'm not numb to it yet.
32:21
Speaker 1: When I hear this, it's it's overwhelming to me, and
32:24
Speaker 1: I don't understand why it keeps happening. I know, Nancy
32:30
Speaker 1: and I saw one Uh, some footage that one of
32:33
Speaker 1: the children had taken where there was a person who
32:36
Speaker 1: had been shot on the ground and all you could
32:38
Speaker 1: see was his legs with sneakers on it, and you
32:42
Speaker 1: knew he was either mortally wounded or just in a
32:45
Speaker 1: distressing situation. And and so the trauma that they went
32:50
Speaker 1: through is not only what they had to see and hear,
32:54
Speaker 1: but it's that this there's this unanticipated intrusion of something
33:01
Speaker 1: that is difficult to organize mentally when you're in a
33:04
Speaker 1: a moment. In other words, it's probably very disorienting. You know,
33:08
Speaker 1: there's bodies everywhere, you're hearing you know, the pop pop
33:11
Speaker 1: pop sounds. You don't know if it's a drill. You
33:14
Speaker 1: don't know where the gun man is. Um. I just
33:17
Speaker 1: keep thinking, you know, in the moment, how could they
33:21
Speaker 1: have even understood clearly what was happening to them? But
33:26
Speaker 1: you're you're asking about the gunman. Um, I keep wondering
33:30
Speaker 1: about a copycat syndrome. I mean, I know that, you know,
33:35
Speaker 1: historically there have been so many young people who have
33:38
Speaker 1: a mental illness or who are sociopathic, or this guy
33:41
Speaker 1: was orphaned, you know, had you know, I know, I
33:45
Speaker 1: get it. The father passed away when he was younger,
33:49
Speaker 1: about fourteen. The mom just passed away in November. He
33:53
Speaker 1: was living with a nearby family who said they had
33:57
Speaker 1: had no problems with him whatsoever. But he goes online
34:01
Speaker 1: and says posting quote, I'm going to be a professional
34:04
Speaker 1: school shooter. I mean, Wendy Patrick, He's already been expelled
34:09
Speaker 1: from school. He's been multiple times, He's been kicked out
34:12
Speaker 1: of other schools. He's been told don't come to school
34:16
Speaker 1: with a backpack. I mean, why is he getting in
34:20
Speaker 1: the school? Yeah, I think, Nancy, we were gonna come
34:24
Speaker 1: up with the same answers that to the questions we
34:26
Speaker 1: asked after a couple other school shootings, including by the way,
34:30
Speaker 1: some shootings in the community like the San Bernardino case,
34:32
Speaker 1: Remember where there were red flags but people were afraid
34:36
Speaker 1: to be the ones to blow the whistle. There is
34:39
Speaker 1: this reluctance among people that perhaps know somebody that they
34:43
Speaker 1: don't want to be the one that is responsible for
34:46
Speaker 1: getting somebody arrested, for locking them up. When we live
34:49
Speaker 1: in a society where that shouldn't be we shouldn't be
34:51
Speaker 1: fearful of that. Uh. And we also have to remember
34:55
Speaker 1: and a couple of you made this great point when
34:57
Speaker 1: you talk about the fear of copycats, it's both provocation
35:01
Speaker 1: and predisposition. In other words, seeing what this young man
35:05
Speaker 1: posted online wouldn't spur law abiding, untroubled students to grab
35:10
Speaker 1: guns and do the same. It is that sort of
35:13
Speaker 1: inspiration and encouragement to like minded young people that are
35:17
Speaker 1: already predisposed. So we hope that anybody that sees anybody
35:21
Speaker 1: else posting and tweeting the kind of material this young
35:24
Speaker 1: man was will be empowered encouraged to actually, really, what
35:29
Speaker 1: good is it doing? Because now sources are claiming that
35:33
Speaker 1: the FBI was alerted six months ago to YouTube user
35:40
Speaker 1: Nicholas Cruz for his comment I'm going to be a
35:44
Speaker 1: professional school shooter. Okay, the FBI knew six months ago?
35:50
Speaker 1: You know. You know what I've got to say to
35:52
Speaker 1: that they can all stuff it right up their nose,
35:57
Speaker 1: because now there are seveneen dead while they and local
36:02
Speaker 1: law enforcement and the school twiddled their thumbs. Yeah, that's
36:10
Speaker 1: overwhelming to me. If this report is true that they
36:13
Speaker 1: knew six months ago. I mean, Ashley Wilcott, there's no
36:18
Speaker 1: excuse for this now, there's not. And when you know,
36:22
Speaker 1: when those threats. They're real, right. We know we live
36:25
Speaker 1: in a day and age where school shootings happen more
36:27
Speaker 1: often than they should. So these are not idle threats.
36:30
Speaker 1: No child says this and it's something they shouldn't consider,
36:33
Speaker 1: shouldn't handle. Let me just add at this point, Nancy,
36:37
Speaker 1: there is also um following this, a school not too
36:42
Speaker 1: far from this current school in Parkland that a child
36:46
Speaker 1: has now said and made a threat. Just watch out,
36:50
Speaker 1: and if you do anything to me on Friday, guess
36:53
Speaker 1: what I'm coming after you. There's a prime example of
36:57
Speaker 1: that has to be taken seriously, which the school is doing.
37:01
Speaker 1: Because these things happen, you have to arrest individuals for
37:05
Speaker 1: making the threats. Right now, police are speaking listen. Sadly,
37:10
Speaker 1: there have been copycat threats made today at other schools.
37:15
Speaker 1: We will respond to every threat, every threat we will received.
37:19
Speaker 1: We will not classify it as a copycat or prank call.
37:23
Speaker 1: We will respond in full and investigated any call that
37:28
Speaker 1: is made fictitiously, any faith call, any call that's made
37:33
Speaker 1: to take out resources at a time like this and
37:36
Speaker 1: place them in places where we don't need to be.
37:39
Speaker 1: We will do the full power of the Sheriff's office
37:41
Speaker 1: will will investigate this and charge anyone accordingly with the
37:46
Speaker 1: maximum charge we possibly could for doing something so horrific,
37:51
Speaker 1: so pathetic. Uh. Governor Scott is going to come up
38:01
Speaker 1: and speak, and then you're gonna hear from Special Agent
38:04
Speaker 1: charge of the FBI. I'll return to the microphone, UH
38:08
Speaker 1: and answer some questions. I think it's noteworthy that at
38:12
Speaker 1: our next press conference, I will be releasing a timeline
38:17
Speaker 1: based on investigation and video that we've captured as to
38:21
Speaker 1: what happened yesterday, and i'd like to take you through
38:23
Speaker 1: it in chronological order. We're not ready to do that
38:26
Speaker 1: at this time, but when we are, we will be
38:28
Speaker 1: back here and we will release that. Now, i'd like
38:31
Speaker 1: to introduce Florida's government, Rick Scott, Thank you, Sheriff. I
38:34
Speaker 1: want to thank everybody in the Sheriff's Department for all
38:36
Speaker 1: their hard work. UM, to make sure you know the
38:41
Speaker 1: one this individual is we have justice, and two to
38:45
Speaker 1: make sure this never happens again. So I think everybody
38:48
Speaker 1: up here is gonna say the same thing. We are
38:50
Speaker 1: our hearts and prayers are with these families, the families
38:53
Speaker 1: that clearly lost the loved one other families that have
38:56
Speaker 1: loved one still in the hospital, and the appornunon. I
38:58
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to visit with some of those families
39:00
Speaker 1: last night, and then also, we want to make sure
39:03
Speaker 1: this never happens again. The next week in Tallahassee, I'm
39:08
Speaker 1: gonna sit down with state leaders. We're gonna have a
39:11
Speaker 1: real conversation about two things. How do we make sure
39:16
Speaker 1: when a parent is ready to send their child to
39:18
Speaker 1: school and in Florida, that parent knows that child is
39:21
Speaker 1: going to be safe. Number two, how do we make
39:24
Speaker 1: sure this individuals with mental illness do not touch a gun.
39:30
Speaker 1: We need to have a real conversation so we have
39:33
Speaker 1: public safety for our schools in this state. I've spoken
39:36
Speaker 1: with the Speaker, Richard Corker, Incident President Joe Negron. They're
39:40
Speaker 1: committed to provide the resources and have a real conversation
39:45
Speaker 1: about how do we make sure that we have public safety.
39:49
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that my children and my grandchildren, yours,
39:53
Speaker 1: everybody in the state can wake up and be safe.
39:58
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here and everything I can. I know
40:01
Speaker 1: all the state resources are gonna do here. I know
40:03
Speaker 1: the Attorney General. Everyone's gonna work hard with the Sheriff's Department,
40:05
Speaker 1: the school district to do everything we can to go forward,
40:08
Speaker 1: but the violence has to stop. We cannot lose another
40:14
Speaker 1: child in this country to violence in the school the
40:19
Speaker 1: There's many families grieving right now. We've got to grieve
40:23
Speaker 1: with them more than with them. But give them their space.
40:27
Speaker 1: There'll be a time that that theyn't want to sit
40:29
Speaker 1: down and tell their story. But right now, as you
40:31
Speaker 1: talk to individuals and we went through this with the
40:33
Speaker 1: post attack, they want they want their own time to grieve.
40:38
Speaker 1: So I want to thank everybody for the Sheriff's Department
40:41
Speaker 1: to f d ly, to the federal government for everything
40:43
Speaker 1: you're doing, the school district for everything they're doing to
40:45
Speaker 1: keep people safe. I want to thank you at Tney
40:47
Speaker 1: Gental for the victim advocates that are coming down here
40:50
Speaker 1: to be helpful. Good morning. My name's Rob Lasky, and
40:57
Speaker 1: especially to the charge of the Minami Division of the FBI.
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Speaker 1: First of all, I want to express my hardcot condolences
41:03
Speaker 1: to the victims, the families, the friends, entire community who
41:08
Speaker 1: suffered the senseless and cowardly act. The FBI continues to
41:12
Speaker 1: stand by the broad kind of Sheriff's office, support them
41:15
Speaker 1: and give them every work resource they need to investigate
41:18
Speaker 1: this hanous product. In two thousand and seventeen, the FBI
41:22
Speaker 1: received information about a comment made on a YouTube channel.
41:26
Speaker 1: The complic comments simply said, I'm going to be a
41:30
Speaker 1: professional school shooter. No other information was included with that
41:34
Speaker 1: comment which would indicate a time location for the true
41:38
Speaker 1: identity of the church who made the comment. The FBI
41:43
Speaker 1: conducted database reviews checks, but was was unable to further
41:49
Speaker 1: identify the person who actually made the comment. Again, as
41:53
Speaker 1: a native South Floridian, my heart goes out to the victims,
41:57
Speaker 1: the families and friends, and the entire community. Thank you,
42:02
Speaker 1: we are bringing you the very latest out of Florida
42:05
Speaker 1: and joining us a little girl who was barricaded in
42:09
Speaker 1: that high school the same um the deadly as school
42:13
Speaker 1: shooting in u S history with me, Sarah Derby and
42:18
Speaker 1: Michelle Dittmeyer. Michelle, when you learn that the FBI knew
42:24
Speaker 1: six months ago, according to sources, about this guy, this
42:29
Speaker 1: team boy, and you know you're friends have been shot,
42:40
Speaker 1: I can only imagine that adds to your grief that
42:42
Speaker 1: people knew about this. Do you think the school knew
42:45
Speaker 1: about it. Did teachers and other students. They seem to
42:48
Speaker 1: be a little bit afraid of him. I mean, yeah,
42:52
Speaker 1: we were all a little afraid of him, but like
42:54
Speaker 1: I never knew he commented stuff like that. I never
42:57
Speaker 1: saw his Instagram until after the shooting. Not many of
43:01
Speaker 1: us were aware of all the stuff he was posting online.
43:04
Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, um, as far as I'm concerned,
43:08
Speaker 1: the school followed the disciplinary as well as they can
43:12
Speaker 1: because they just had accusations. They didn't have part evidence
43:17
Speaker 1: of it. And I don't blame anybody at the school.
43:22
Speaker 1: It's terrible if the SB I didn't know about it.
43:24
Speaker 1: But well, I understand what you're saying, because actley, every
43:31
Speaker 1: teacher that I would say, almost every teacher and principle
43:37
Speaker 1: that I've ever come in contact with, truly, I only
43:41
Speaker 1: had the best intentions. You know, I was a teacher,
43:43
Speaker 1: but teached you to my student teaching before I got
43:45
Speaker 1: into law school waiting, and that was what I was
43:49
Speaker 1: going to do if I didn't make it into law school.
43:51
Speaker 1: And I don't recall any teacher, whether you approved of
43:56
Speaker 1: their methods or not, that I ever knew that didn't
44:00
Speaker 1: care about doing the right thing. For the students, and
44:04
Speaker 1: sometimes I think teachers care too much. They For instance,
44:09
Speaker 1: one a student that is having problems, you want to
44:14
Speaker 1: help them. You don't think, oh, they're gonna come commit
44:16
Speaker 1: mass murder. You think what can I do to help
44:19
Speaker 1: this student? So it's really a double edged sword when
44:22
Speaker 1: you say the school knew, well, obviously they knew he
44:25
Speaker 1: had problems because they told him he couldn't come on
44:27
Speaker 1: school with a backpack. He had already been kicked out,
44:30
Speaker 1: he had been expelled, he had been held back twice.
44:33
Speaker 1: And all those were things that were happening while the
44:35
Speaker 1: mom was still alive, because the mom just passed away
44:38
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. I don't know how hard
44:41
Speaker 1: I want to come down on the school, but I
44:43
Speaker 1: get But I guarantee you those seventeen students parents aren't
44:47
Speaker 1: feeling that way this morning right now. I think it's
44:51
Speaker 1: a system issue for schools overall. It's our criminal justice system,
44:56
Speaker 1: because you raised it at the beginning of this show,
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Speaker 1: and that is when individual's threatened to kill other people,
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Speaker 1: it is terroristic threats, and so why is there no arrest?
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Speaker 1: Why is there no action against that individual to prevent
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Speaker 1: what happens? The families distraught to John Lilyam trying to
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Speaker 1: find out what we know about Nicholas Cruse. What do
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Speaker 1: we really know about him? I know he was holding
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Speaker 1: down a job at I think a Dollar Tree and
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Speaker 1: they never had a problem with him. The family he
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Speaker 1: was living with said they didn't have a problem with him.
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Speaker 1: What more do we know? We know mostly this young
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Speaker 1: man by his Instagram posts. One of the most chilling
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Speaker 1: is back in the past few months he posted uh
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Speaker 1: an advertisement for an A R fifteen with the price,
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Speaker 1: all the details there, and he was essentially asking his
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Speaker 1: instagram all wars what they thought if this was, if
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Speaker 1: this was a good gun, if if if he should
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Speaker 1: buy this gun. And it was just within weeks that
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Speaker 1: he actually did purchase one of these guns, that that
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Speaker 1: a R fifteen, that that took the life of what
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Speaker 1: we now know seventeen adults and children. Authorities have not
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Speaker 1: yet released the identities of the victims. Um There are
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Speaker 1: are a couple of names that are posted on different sites,
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Speaker 1: but I don't feel comfortable reading those because I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure of the sources. However, the school's football program did
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Speaker 1: post that football coach Aaron Feiss was among the dead.
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Speaker 1: And that he actually threw himself in front of students
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Speaker 1: as bullets were hailing down on Wednesday. To make this
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Speaker 1: even more tragic, this school, uh was his alma mater.
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Speaker 1: We also know that he had made very very disturbing
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Speaker 1: threats on social media, that he bragged about guns, that
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Speaker 1: people were afraid of him. To me, that's a very
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Speaker 1: real and present danger, and I'm stunned that he had
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Speaker 1: not already been arrested or brought down, especially on basically
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Speaker 1: on his threats on social media. Seventeen murdered at Marjorie
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Speaker 1: Stone when Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, where this
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Speaker 1: teen boy allegedly opens fire with an a R fifteen
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Speaker 1: semi automatic rifle with countless extra magazines of ammunition. Why
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Speaker 1: he had been threatening students had been asked to leave
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Speaker 1: senior staff at email teachers to warn them. He was
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Speaker 1: not allowed on campus with a backpack for reasons. Students
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Speaker 1: even had joked about Cruz being a future killer. It
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Speaker 1: was just a big joke. Well it's not a joke.
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Speaker 1: To me, it's not a joke now. People that stated
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Speaker 1: they had been friends with him said he had begun
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Speaker 1: getting progressively more odd more weird, boasting about killing animals,
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Speaker 1: doing target practice in the backyard, going after another girl,
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Speaker 1: threatening her. It just seems like it's too much to
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Speaker 1: have been ignored. Ashley No, I agree with you, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: and again I don't think it's an individual issues. These
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Speaker 1: teachers throw themselves in front of their students to protect them.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a system issue because there should have
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Speaker 1: been an arrest. There are charges that are specific to
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Speaker 1: the kinds of things he was doing, the threats he
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Speaker 1: was making, so there are results in criminal charges, but
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Speaker 1: they didn't happen, and if they had happened, he could
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Speaker 1: be in jail instead of shooting up a school. At
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Speaker 1: this hour, as we urch for answers, our prayers with
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Speaker 1: the victims and their families, as our search for justice
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Speaker 1: goes on. Michelle Dedmires, Sarah Derby, especially to you, Thank you, Nancy.
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