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[Ep 25] Lifelong Habits Start in College, Can Campus Culture Change? | Rebecca Sanchez · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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  We are here with the Performance Driven Living podcast, and I'm super stoked for our
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  guests today.
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  I'm here with Rebecca Sanchez, don't talk to her in Spanish because I wanted she doesn't
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  speak Spanish despite having a Mexican parent.
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  See, shame, I shame you, the minute we started here, it's terrible, but Rebecca is actually
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  the executive director of a new foundation that is starting, and I love everything about
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  this.
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  It's called the Life Long Wellbeing Foundation.
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  And Life Long Wellbeing is the on-campus voice for the longevity movement.
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  And I love this.
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  And Rebecca, thank you for joining us today, but I want to learn another goal of performance
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  driven living.
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  I say every podcast we do always starts with me explaining that I want to learn something
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  today.
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  Now, you're going to have a hard time teaching me something today because I was, as many
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  people know, I was a former college professor, I've spent a lot of time on college campuses,
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  both as a student as well as a teacher, and just experienced the administrative side of
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  campuses, the student life side of campuses, I've just spent a lot of my career as well
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  as my personal life.
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  I've got a bunch of crazy degrees, so I've spent a lot of time in colleges.
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  But what you're doing is something that's different from what I've seen before, and
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  that is campus culture.
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  I want to, we actually talked about, I was doing a podcast earlier this week and was talking
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  about your organization to somebody because we were actually talking about youth being
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  there and how they're mentored into their own world and the idea that college students,
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  once they get out of the house, they're making their first adult decisions.
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  And they're learning in many ways a lot of things the first time.
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  And I say, I went in my early 20s, I had to go through an unlearning, which is I say
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  that everybody's got that moment in time that you realize that your family of origin was
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  not normal.
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  And we all go through it because everybody, you're just indoctrinated into a way of life,
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  and you don't know anything else, so you assume that your family's normal.
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  And I literally remember talking to a friend of mine one day who was like, Mark, you know
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  your family's not normal, right?
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  And I was like, wait, what?
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  And then when I was like, oh my God, we're so not normal.
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  And it literally took me, it was almost like somebody gave me the red pill and was like,
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  here do this.
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  And I went through this period in my 20s and I was like, I had to literally rethink
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  everything I thought, you know, and it was just everything from holiday traditions to
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  family dynamics, to financial management, just all of a sudden it crumbled on me.
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  And I'm like, this is so weird, like why did nobody ever tell me this before now and
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  no one was saying it in a bad way?
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  But it was like, man, I wish I'd have had that kind of thing and it's like, and when
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  I've gone through what you're doing and read about what you're doing and then attending
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  your inaugural dinner on Tuesday night was amazing.
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  And supporting.
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  Thank you.
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  But it's like going through all that kind of stuff and I'm like, I want you to tell us about
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  this foundation.
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  I of course want to hear about the story about how it happened and everything else.
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  But the foundation that you're trying to build for college students, you know, giving
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  that red pill earlier in their adult journey, where they're able to realize that maybe
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  the experiences they've had weren't healthy.
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  And I don't mean healthy, just physiological, but emotionally and socially and educationally
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  and intellectually and environmentally, like all of these things.
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  All of these things.
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  Dimensions of well-being.
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  Yes.
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  But you said the dimensions of well-being.
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  Start there.
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  It's interesting.
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  So I've, you mentioned this word of unlearning and I've spent a lot of my career in change
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  and change management, which is in essence that unlearning process.
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  And so you, we have all these different aspects of being human and you named off so many
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  of them already.
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  And there is research out there associated to these eight dimensions of well-being.
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  And if you Google it, you'll also find they talk about the eight dimensions of life.
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  And as humans, these are the areas that are part of being human.
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  And I hate to put you on the spot here.
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  What are those?
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  Yes, okay.
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  We'll see if you get more.
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  Yeah, here we go.
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  Here we go, team.
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  All right.
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  So we have, I'm watching the wheel.
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  So we have physical.
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  We have emotional.
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  We have spiritual.
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  Intellectual.
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  Environmental.
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  Oh, here we go.
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  Here we go.
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  Here we go.
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  I got three more.
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  I got three more.
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  I did social.
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  I did social.
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  I did spiritual.
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  Intellectual.
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  Environmental.
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  And you know what?
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  It's going to be funny because they're going to int-uh.
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  It was.
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  It was a nutritional.
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  No, there's not a nutritional one.
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  That's a physical one.
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  That's a physical one.
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  And.
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  I should have this.
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  Right.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Anyway, there's eight different dimensions.
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  Oh, I didn't say financial, which is a huge aspect and things that our students are dealing
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  with.
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  And so all of these different areas, and when we walk into the world, when we wake up
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  every day and we step in and we're engaging with people, we're tapping into all of those
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  pieces.
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  We're not robots.
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  We're humans.
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  Right.
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  And in any given portion of our lives, we can't necessarily manage or where are we getting
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  the knowledge to learn about each of those things?
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  Are we getting it at home?
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  Are we getting it in our K through 12?
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  Are we learning it with our friends?
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  You're familiar with like the enogram, I'm sure, right?
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  And you see like, it's that wheel and you see like areas are out here and some areas
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  are in and some are out and you see the way that wheel is framed that it's all, nothing
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  is perfectly round.
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  It's all like this weird jagged thing.
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  And you're making me think like, so some young people may have a really high social engagement.
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  Like maybe that's an area where they excel, but financially they don't have a clue.
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  And intellectually, maybe they're really strong, except environmentally, they're in a,
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  they maybe live in a toxic environment, right?
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  And I'm toxic perhaps emotionally, but I'm specifically referring to, you know, physically
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  toxic.
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  Maybe they've been exposed to mold.
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  And each of those areas, like, it doesn't mean that everything's flatline because every
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  student needs something different.
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  And I look back to my college days and I'm like, I couldn't tell you.
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  Like if I were to ask you, like, where did you learn financial responsibility?
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  I didn't learn it at all.
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  I did not learn.
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  I did.
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  I didn't learn it.
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  I didn't call it.
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  I didn't learn it.
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  I mean, I even had some finance classes and I didn't learn it at all.
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  Absolutely.
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  I became an accountant as my first career.
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  But I mean, I grew up in a home where I was raised by my grandmother and the joke in
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  my family was always, you know, available credit spends just like cash, right?
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  Because if she had available credit, there was cash in the bank.
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  And I mean, I can't even imagine the amount of interest she paid over a lifetime, but
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  that was just she didn't know how to manage finances or how could she have raised somebody
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  who did.
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  You know, she didn't understand like I was a fat kid, like I say that, like I was I was
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  a chubster.
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  And but I grew up in an Italian family where everybody ate what they wanted and nobody
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  gained weight.
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  I did like physiologically, I was different from the other people in my family and that
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  my mom's side of the family all gains weight super fast.
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  So I'm very, very conscious about what I eat and everything now.
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  But then I ate the same way everybody else did.
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  They were skinny as rails and I was a fat kid, like what in the world, like so but and intellectually,
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  like educationally, like I always excelled, you know, as fat kid, but I was a smart kid.
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  Like and socially, I always was very, you know, very adept at social situations and always
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  got along with everybody in school and so on.
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  So it's like by the time I entered college, like there were some dynamics that I would
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  say I was strong at and there were other ones I was virtually bankrupt.
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  I do this activity and I work with a lot of folks in large organizations that are trying
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  to learn and scale and through massive amount of change.
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  And there's this activity where I have all of the different eight dimensions and I have
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  them either put a plus sign, a negative sign or a zero into that to say, yeah, and is
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  this something I'm excelling at?
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  Is this something that I would want to look at and make adjustments at?
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  Or am I doing like, all right in this area?
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  Because for any of us, we can't say, I want all these things to change or this aspect
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  of my life is if you have a pain in your body and you're dealing with something emotionally,
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  I promise you, you're more focused on that pain than you're dealing with that emotional
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  piece.
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  And so it's what is the thing that's in front of you right now that you would like
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  to enhance and improve?
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  And so part of this is education to students too about look at your life holistically
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  and where are you in one of the things that we'll be offering as an assessment for students
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  to look at stress and well-being in their life and identifying what are things that they
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  are excelling at?
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  Let's celebrate those.
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  And I mean, even in corporate America, there is a lot of us use this tool called Strength
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  Finders where it's like, oh, these are my strengths and they're like, oh, what are your
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  weaknesses?
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  You should focus on your weaknesses.
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  You should actually lean into your strengths, lean into your strengths so that you can then
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  take that energy to help you with those areas that are weaknesses or grab a partner, a
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  community and the other pieces that we're really trying to tap into is building community.
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  Have you ever read the six geniuses?
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  So six geniuses does something similar and I actually love the way that they phrase it
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  because it actually spells out, it spells widget, but it's the wanderer and the inquirer
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  and the forget what the D is, but it's the person who's, yeah, it's all the stuff, but
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  it's this anagram that goes down for each of these things, but it's all six of these
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  things.
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  Like, this is the person who asks the why are we doing it this way and this is the person
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  who knows how to solve a problem and this is the person who's able to dictate what needs
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  done and this is the person who galvanizes a team and this is the person who takes care
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  of the details and this is the person who's just the helper who makes everybody else's
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  lives easier and it's like all six of these types of geniuses need to exist at the leadership
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  level of your organization.
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  Don't do the things that you're not good at and they actually say, yeah, two of these
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  things out of six, you are great at two of the things you can do if you need to and two
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  of them just drain your energy and you know, when we went through, you know, our team,
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  like, we kind of went through these geniuses and I'm like, look guys, I'm here, like any
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  time that you push me into a situation that I'm the follow up on the details and I'm the
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  person, like, it's not that I can't do it.
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  It's that it physically exhausts me, like, it actually exhausts me.
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  Like, I'm looking at like, I've got always when we're doing podcasts, like, I've got
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  this pad and it's got show notes and all this other kind of stuff all over it, which gives
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  me information about you and, you know, set up questions just in case I run out of something
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  to talk about, like, and I'm like, this would exhaust me to actually do this, like to
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  actually put this together because we're doing eight podcasts or whatever.
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  And it's like, to do this eight times exhaust me, but I have a member of my team who's amazing
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  at this stuff.
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  And I'm like, I should never do this because this tires me out.
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  Like, that's a good use of us as a team.
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  I say that because when you're talking about what you're doing at lifelong well-being,
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  students are kind of the same way, right?
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  Like, they've never been taught that.
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  They've never been taught to lean into what they're good at.
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  They've spent their lives being told to cover their weaknesses.
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  They've been told, you know, in the areas where your week work harder as opposed to
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  double down on your strengths, right?
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  Like, there's a lot of burnt out students right now.
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  And we have a lot of, I mean, and not that I don't know what your college experience was,
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  but my college experience was I was working a full-time job.
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  I had an evening part-time job.
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  I was going to school full-time, was actually married at that time for a portion of it as
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  well.
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  And I was just exhausted.
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  We had the same experience.
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  It was just exhausted.
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  I worked full-time, went to school in the evenings, worked part-time jobs on the weekends,
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  paid my own tuition, like, that was my college experience.
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  I didn't even care what my grades were.
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  I just wanted to pass the classes because I had so many pressures from life.
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  Yeah.
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  And that is not different than what so many of our students are dealing with right now.
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  And right now, even more so, which is...
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  Right.
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  Well, that's what I was going to say.
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  I look back at my college experience.
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  I'm like, I worked my tail off, you know, and I say I crammed a bachelor's degree into
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  seven years.
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  But like, I worked hard to get through school, you know, not because it was intellectually
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  hard.
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  It actually was just because I was working hard and going to school was another thing
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  that I had to do on top of surviving life.
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  But the pressures, like, I graduated from college, you know, almost 30 years ago.
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  So, you know, not quite 30 years ago, I shouldn't age myself that badly, 25 years ago.
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  But it's like, I can't imagine doing it in the age of social media and in the age of
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  cyber bullying.
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  And all the other pressures that they have, like ours, if we go through the wheel, so much
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  of that was related to a financial component of it and maybe even our social component
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  of it.
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  But if you think about the students that right now, like, they're getting hit really with
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  the social, with the spirituals, one of the ones that I missed earlier, which is really
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  around connecting your purpose to the work that you're doing.
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  And I think right now, we actually have a lot more in the younger generations that are
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  asking those questions about, well, what's the point?
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  What's the point of what I'm doing?
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  Yes, I'm going to go to school.
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  I'm going to get a degree in accounting.
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  I make a work for one of the large firms or work in an accounting firm.
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  And not necessarily thinking about or trying to think about, is that really what I want
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  to do is slave away at a job in this specific field that I'm excited about the field?
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  But maybe I'm not excited for what the company's doing.
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  And so part of our education is also around educating that, let's look at all these different
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  pieces.
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  What drives you and excites you?
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  Is it travel?
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  Go work for an accounting firm that's in a traveling industry.
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  Like, how do you connect to these pieces together that we don't have to have all of these
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  things so separate and so segregated?
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  And then also go find the people.
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  But right now, we're here at the Biohacking Conference and we are with people that are,
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  oh, it's a homogenous group.
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  Right.
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  We're all like minded.
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  And we get energized from that.
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  Yeah.
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  And we, in ideas get sparked and creativity gets sparked and you walk around this downstairs
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  like people are smiling and they're laughing and they're hugging and it's like, how do
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  we bring that back?
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  How do we, how do we start not even bring it back?
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  How do we educate the young folks that that can be how you exist through the world?
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  So you mentioned that we're here at the Biohacking Conference and I would be remiss in not bringing
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  something up.
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  And that is part of the inaugural dinner for your event in the first fundraiser starting
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  this.
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  And I want to get into some of the details of the foundation itself, but part of that
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  is a partnership with the Maha movement and at that dinner, people like Callie Means
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  and Del Big Tree and Dave Aspery, they were all in attendance there, which is, you know,
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  it legitimizes what you're doing because these are some pretty big names to get behind
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  what you're doing.
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  But nevertheless, I want to go one level deep there and say that I was talking with somebody
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  yesterday and I was mentioning that while Bobby Kennedy is showing up on the scene and
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  this Maha movement, that's a year ago.
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  Like let's be realistic.
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  Like that was maybe a year ago.
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  But statistics right now are saying things like, for instance, obesity on campuses is
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  higher than it's ever been, right?
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  Bobby can grab on to that and we can say suicide rates on campuses are higher than they've
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  ever been.
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  Great.
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  Bobby can grab on to that.
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  But there's something that's interesting to me and that is there's two things that are
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  really standing out to me and that the one is I was having a conversation with somebody
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  and we were talking about the gen alpha, I believe is the generation we're talking about
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  now on college campuses and the alcohol consumption from gen alpha people, which is college
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  age students today, is lower than it's been in 70 years.
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  And the highest influx of attendees at churches is out of 20 something year old men and
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  going, so all of a sudden young men are flocking to churches in unprecedented numbers.
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  And students are just not drinking anymore.
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  And I'm like, it's kind of reminded me of the Huey Lewis song, it's hip to be square,
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  right?
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  And I'm like, like the cool kids are doing the rebel thing and being healthy.
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  And I'm like, and I say this and this is not disparaging to Bobby at all, but I was
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  like, it kind of made me step back and go, okay, so like Bobby is doing amazing things with
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  the Department of Health and Human Services in my opinion.
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  And I'm like, you're riding this wave and it's like, and I think people like, yes, the
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  wave is there.
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  Now the wave is coming.
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  I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're, you're riding a wave that was already moving
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  because Bobby didn't make young men go to church, right?
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  Bobby didn't make people stop drinking alcohol in this generation, but he's, he's part
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  of that wave, but I think he's almost riding it more than he's causing it.
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  Like what is the shift that's taking place?
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  Because to me, these numbers are huge.
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  Like yeah, we can talk about obesity and maybe that's linked to food and emotions and
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  all the other things, but what's causing this influx of church attendance?
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  What's causing this, this lack of alcohol consumption?
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  Like these are good behaviors, but those behaviors didn't start at 20 years old.
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  Something else happened.
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  What do you attribute that to?
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  Like I love the momentum we have right now, but I'm trying to, I'm trying to go back
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  because I think sometimes we, we claim a triggering event and I'm like, yeah, but things
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  were already happening before that triggering event.
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  Like, yeah, the conversation, a lot of the conversations that I've had with the younger
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  generations is they say, I've seen, I see my parents use alcohol as something to really
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  step, step themselves away from reality.
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  Like they come home and it's like the thing that happens so that they can kind of numb
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  themselves out and they watched, they watched their parents you and I just, you just mentioned
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  earlier.
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  It's like, I grew up a certain way and I realized I needed to break the mold and if you
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  think about those that are early 20s right now, their parents are in their 40s and 50s
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  and that was my generation that partied in college all the time and kept that partying
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  going and kept that as a, we're going to use it for every celebration, we're going to
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  use it for, for every gathering, we're going to use it for and then what happens when
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  maybe you have a little too much and then these younger folks got to observe that stuff
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  growing up.
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  I mean, I think about some of the work that I do was in observation of watching my father
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  and my mother, I'm going like, oh, I either want to do that or I don't want to do that
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  and making those choices.
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  And so we now have a group that says, I watched that, I don't want that.
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  I could find other ways to hang out with my friends and I don't need that, which and
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  then maybe not even realizing the fit, the other physical benefits that come with that.
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  And so I'm not saying as part of the foundation, we're going in and educating and saying,
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  you can't drink because that's not messaging at all.
• 21:09
  With this aspect of what is the education around what does alcohol do and where, how are
• 21:16
  you gathering with your people and bringing your communities together?
• 21:22
  Does it always need to be around food?
• 21:23
  Does it always need to be around alcohol?
• 21:25
  Does it always environmentally, where environmentally, that's another piece of the well-being dimension.
• 21:31
  It's like, are you going into places that maybe have a lot of toxins?
• 21:35
  Are you environmental, too?
• 21:37
  I moved to Denver, Colorado from Minneapolis, Minnesota, physiologically.
• 21:42
  My doctors said to me, this environment is not good for your body.
• 21:48
  Humidity is not good for my physiological body.
• 21:50
  I have really intense fibromyalgia that I manage really well and the wet, like, ooh, and
• 21:57
  I didn't know that.
• 21:58
  I went to school in Minnesota.
• 21:59
  I had migraines all the time.
• 22:02
  I was getting neck injections at 19 every other week because my doctors were like, well,
• 22:08
  it might be your backpack.
• 22:09
  It might be this.
• 22:10
  It might be that.
• 22:11
  Then, when I was 23 years old after I had been taking a pharmaceutical drug that I had
• 22:17
  a terrible side effect to that was starting to put me into early onset dementia, that
• 22:22
  my doctor, I said, I'm 26 and my doctor said, well, you have two choices.
• 22:26
  You can stay on it.
• 22:27
  It was the only drug out 10 years that we found that was working for me.
• 22:31
  You can stay on it, but you'll probably go into disability because you won't be able
• 22:35
  to lose your words.
• 22:37
  I was speaking at that time, like, what happened as I was standing in front of a group and
• 22:41
  all of a sudden I went and everything blanked and then the next day it happened like two
• 22:46
  times.
• 22:47
  Then the next day it happened like five times and then I called my doctor and I'm like,
• 22:49
  what is happening?
• 22:50
  They said, well, you can stay on it, but it's going to continue.
• 22:53
  Wow.
• 22:54
  Or we're going to, I was in Minnesota at the time, we're going to have you go to this
• 22:58
  pain management clinic and they're going to try a lot of weird stuff on you.
• 23:02
  And I was like, what?
• 23:03
  And that's actually where I learned about breathing techniques.
• 23:07
  And that is where I learned that food.
• 23:10
  What I was putting in my body that nightshades for me is what I have an eaten pepper, a tomato,
• 23:15
  and I'm half Mexican.
• 23:16
  So those are like my people's food.
• 23:18
  That's my people's food.
• 23:19
  I have it for a decade and a half.
• 23:22
  And it's like all these things that we don't necessarily, we're not taught when we're
• 23:26
  younger.
• 23:28
  I was having dinner at the fundraiser.
• 23:31
  I was at a table with Ronnie and folks who are curated conversation was around food, was
• 23:39
  around health and food.
• 23:41
  And we were talking about how some of the foods that you eat can cause acne.
• 23:48
  And what's an idea of like maybe there could be a catchy thing of like, cure your acne.
• 23:53
  And that's the social event that gets brought in and talking about food.
• 23:58
  And then that's the information that's shared.
• 24:01
  But really, what are these young people thinking about right now?
• 24:04
  What are they struggling with?
• 24:06
  And do they even know that some of this aligns to either environmentally where they are?
• 24:11
  When I moved to Denver, Colorado, and I was out in the sun and then humidity, I don't
• 24:16
  have to do half of the things that I had to do to manage my pain because I switched my
• 24:20
  environment.
• 24:21
  But I didn't know that until I was in my thirties.
• 24:23
  Right.
• 24:24
  I didn't.
• 24:25
  Yeah.
• 24:26
  So I love all of this because I think the words that I'm hearing while you're talking
• 24:31
  about this early intervention, yes, the sooner we can, we can help somebody get on the
• 24:37
  track and the more years that they can spend in that space, whether that's financial
• 24:42
  health or social health or physical health, like the sooner we can get that education
• 24:46
  there.
• 24:47
  And particularly physiological, but I mean, financially, social, everything, like a delayed
• 24:53
  maturity or that late bloomer in that situation, like the damage that gets caused in all of
• 24:58
  these eight dimensions of well-being, when damage gets caused in early adulthood, all of
• 25:05
  its cumulative damage that you're doing because you're living a physically unhealthy life,
• 25:11
  you know, say that the, what do they say, the heart attack you had in your fifties didn't
• 25:15
  start in your fifties.
• 25:16
  Right.
• 25:17
  It started in your thirties.
• 25:18
  And the social relationships that you never built properly when you were in your twenties
• 25:23
  led to not having lifelong friends in your forties, like they say what, like the average
• 25:27
  adult man in his forties has two friends, my gosh, that just seems tragic to me, right?
• 25:34
  But it's like, that's pretty normal.
• 25:35
  Most people have pretty small circles and they're, they're all friends that they built
• 25:39
  because they had some shared experience.
• 25:41
  They worked together.
• 25:42
  They went to school together.
• 25:43
  They weren't intentional relationships that they went out and built.
• 25:48
  But the same is true of finances, right?
• 25:50
  If you get in trouble in your finances in your twenties, you're spending till your forties
• 25:53
  probably trying to bail yourself out, right?
• 25:57
  Like you can't earn any, you know, for most of them, you're starting a new job, you're
• 26:01
  in student loans, you're all this kind of stuff.
• 26:03
  And it's like, I have friends that finished college and went and bought houses because they
• 26:07
  were just taught very early on how to manage finances.
• 26:10
  I was not one of them.
• 26:12
  I wasn't taught those skills when I was young.
• 26:15
  And it's like, I didn't buy my first house until I was like 30 years old because I didn't
• 26:21
  know it.
• 26:22
  I worked two, three jobs through college because I didn't know student loans were an option.
• 26:26
  I didn't know student loans existed.
• 26:28
  No one ever told me that I could have taken student loans and actually focused on my
• 26:31
  academics.
• 26:32
  And, and maybe that's the school counselor's issue.
• 26:35
  Maybe that was my high school didn't, whatever, like I don't care.
• 26:38
  But the earlier we can get in front of these things, that the more life long well-being
• 26:45
  we can provide to people, right?
• 26:47
  Like these young people get to live an entire life of abundance, not just another 30 years
• 26:51
  or 40 years afterwards.
• 26:53
  Like, there shouldn't be this long of a struggle.
• 26:56
  Two things I want to mention, the first one is I believe, and you can tell me if you
• 27:02
  believe that when I was in college and even up until recently, Hollywood specifically
• 27:11
  has glamorized the college experience as being this hedonistic years of your life.
• 27:20
  And I believe that when young people leave their parents home, there is almost the expectation
• 27:26
  that they have to participate in the craziness to order to have the, quote, college experience,
• 27:31
  right?
• 27:32
  And it's, the freshman 15 is normal, nope, like shouldn't be, like, and the idea that
• 27:39
  drinking on college, it's normal, you know, you're supposed to black out drunk when you're
• 27:43
  in college, that's what you do.
• 27:44
  And you try drugs for the first time and you're like, all of these things that like through
• 27:47
  movies, like movies like old school and American pie and like all of these things that we've
• 27:53
  all seen, we've all laughed at, and it's like, but they kind of I think have shaped a lot
• 27:58
  of our expectations of what college life should look like.
• 28:01
  And when I look at your mission and I look at the things that you've talked about, it's
• 28:06
  almost like you're defying that norm and saying no, that's not what a college experience
• 28:12
  should look like.
• 28:14
  I, I don't know if we're necessarily saying that we're trying to define what a college
• 28:19
  experience looks like.
• 28:20
  I think the biggest thing is around saying that there are, to your own adventure, but
• 28:27
  no, but no that there is best practice out there if you want to live a life that's full
• 28:38
  of well-being.
• 28:39
  And if you look at that definition of well-being, it's around being connected, passionate
• 28:44
  to purpose and being and have and being happy.
• 28:46
  And I think if you asked anybody, be it a college student or not, and not use maybe the
• 28:52
  word well-being because I don't know that everybody really truly can wrap their head around
• 28:55
  like, what does that actually mean to me?
• 28:57
  But if you said, do you want to live like a happy, healthy, perfect, purpose-driven life?
• 29:04
  Even.
• 29:05
  People say yes.
• 29:06
  Yeah, naturally.
• 29:07
  And they didn't mean redefine the college experience.
• 29:10
  I mean, undefined that college experience is being normal.
• 29:16
  So that the party central side of college doesn't have to be what college is about.
• 29:20
  Oh, absolutely.
• 29:21
  You're not, you're not trying to tell people what their college experience should be,
• 29:26
  but you're trying to, trying to get them to say that, but that doesn't have to be what
• 29:30
  yours is.
• 29:31
  Yes.
• 29:32
  And that your, earlier when we were talking, you mentioned this idea of learning and
• 29:38
  unlearning.
• 29:39
  And then also this aspect, you didn't say the word, but the word that popped in my mind
• 29:42
  is like entering into a new paradigm, and that's what college was for me.
• 29:47
  It was like, whoa, I looked around and I went, people live like this, or you can talk
• 29:53
  like that, or you can do those things, or you can go those places, or you can, you can,
• 29:57
  you can, so this piece of, what do you want your paradigm to be now that you are out
• 30:04
  of your home and you're learning these things for what will take you into the future, into
• 30:08
  your future.
• 30:10
  And I also remember being 20 thinking 40 was like, way old and oh my gosh, yeah.
• 30:15
  And it's like what, I don't want to be thinking about those things right now.
• 30:18
  So I'm not even asking, we're not even asking them to be thinking about, what do you want
• 30:22
  your life to look like when you're 120, or do you even want to live to 120?
• 30:28
  That is not any of what our mission is.
• 30:30
  It is to say, this idea of if I had learned to put money in a bank account when I was
• 30:35
  19 and compounding interest, so that when I met that age, I am flourishing.
• 30:43
  It's more that kind of concept of what are you putting into your bank right now?
• 30:47
  I call it reverse engineering.
• 30:49
  Yes.
• 30:50
  I start with the, start with the desired output and then start working backwards and
• 30:55
  say, okay, so if I, if I want to be a healthy 50 and I want to be a thriving 80 someday,
• 31:02
  what are some of the things that I need to, what are the habits that you just didn't know?
• 31:05
  Habits.
• 31:06
  Habits.
• 31:07
  Yeah, that is a big component of the lifelong well-being foundation is understanding what
• 31:11
  are habits and how do you hold yourself accountable to habits because I can't hold you accountable
• 31:17
  to a habit.
• 31:18
  No.
• 31:19
  Only we can find ourselves to it.
• 31:21
  We have to want it enough and understand the value of it.
• 31:24
  And if we don't understand the value of it, we weren't, we're not going to do that thing.
• 31:28
  There's a, that's my dentist, I don't like boxing.
• 31:32
  There's a phrase, a cycle, and I was talking with Chris Motley about it, actually, if you
• 31:36
  know who Chris Motley is, super cool guy.
• 31:39
  And we actually were talking about cycles through generations and I'm curious your thoughts
• 31:49
  on this because when I see this generation rising, and I'm old enough now to see this,
• 31:54
  which is really scary to me, the, but they say that, you know, good men create great times
• 32:00
  and great times create bad, you know, the weak men, weak men create bad times, bad times
• 32:07
  again create great men.
• 32:09
  And then great men create good times.
• 32:13
  And the cycle that we end up in this, in this weird loop, right?
• 32:17
  Like when, when, when things are great, people start to get a little bit lethargic about
• 32:21
  stuff and when they get lethargic, things are not great anymore, which causes a generation
• 32:25
  to rise up and make them great again.
• 32:28
  And then we're back to great times with great men until the next generation gets lazy.
• 32:34
  And I, the comment that I made is when I look at that, that cycle and there's so much
• 32:39
  truth to it and we can look through every empire that's ever existed in the world and
• 32:44
  see that they've risen to a point that they fell.
• 32:48
  And when I look at these 20 somethings and I, they need help, they need guidance, they
• 32:54
  need the wisdom of those of us who have been there before, you know, they need to stand
• 32:58
  on the shoulders of giants.
• 32:59
  Yes.
• 33:00
  And we need to be those giants.
• 33:02
  Yeah.
• 33:03
  Yeah.
• 33:04
  But when, when I look at what you're doing there, it, it makes me think like, we've had
• 33:08
  some rough times in the last while, like no one's going to doubt that in the last number
• 33:12
  of years, like it's been some weird stuff going on, you know, particularly, I mean, we
• 33:17
  can't leave COVID out of that conversation, right?
• 33:19
  The entire college experience changed.
• 33:22
  And it's like, I see that, that, that dip in our social consciousness and just our collective
• 33:30
  whatever hit a, hit an all time low for a moment.
• 33:33
  And I'm seeing that is the bad times are creating great men.
• 33:38
  And I'm seeing this generation.
• 33:40
  I'm so hopeful that this is the generation, that these college kids that are, that are
• 33:47
  18 to 22 right now, like, right, I've had a lot of things to invest in that group.
• 33:56
  And I mean, as a, as I was a college professor for years, so I've seen a couple generations
• 34:00
  go through and sometimes I just scratched my head and says, what the hell is going to be
• 34:04
  our future?
• 34:05
  But I think 20 years ago, when I was teaching or 15 years ago, when I was teaching, like,
• 34:12
  that was the generation of bad times, you know, it was, it was the, the, the weak men were
• 34:17
  creating bad times culture, in my opinion, like that was that generation of like, well,
• 34:22
  I was seeing a lot of the weaknesses.
• 34:23
  But when I'm seeing right now is like this bad times that we've been through happened
• 34:30
  because there weren't enough great men to stand up.
• 34:34
  And when I'm looking at this generation, this college age group right now, like, this
• 34:40
  is it, like, this is our next generation of great men.
• 34:44
  And if we follow that pattern, it's kind of like those World War II vets who were the
• 34:48
  greatest generation, they called them and it might, we're probably at the point now that
• 34:53
  we're through the cycle that we're back to another generation of great men.
• 34:57
  Do you, do you see that?
• 34:59
  I just got so inspired last week.
• 35:03
  So there is a group out there called in actus and they bring student entrepreneurs together
• 35:08
  from across, not just the United States, but across the world and they've been around
• 35:11
  for about 50 years.
• 35:14
  And I got the honor of judging student entrepreneurs that come in their entire mission of their
• 35:21
  companies that they've started is around making impact.
• 35:26
  And so I got to sit in this room, seeing all of these 18, 19, 20-year-olds that have
• 35:33
  started businesses to help a very specific cause that is near and dear to their heart.
• 35:39
  And they're actually aligned to the United Nations 17 sustainable goals, which is the
• 35:44
  foundation is also aligned to the United Nations goal number three specifically, which is
• 35:50
  good health and well-being for all.
• 35:52
  But these students were like, we're starting something with impact.
• 35:56
  And I think one of the most interesting part of attending that event was they brought
• 36:00
  some alum from that, and then they've been around for 50 years, they brought some alum
• 36:04
  on the stage and the students were asking the alum questions about how one was so targeted.
• 36:11
  And it said, how are you ensuring that you're not just building a company to make money,
• 36:16
  but that you're actually making impact in the world?
• 36:19
  How do you, as somebody who used to be in an actous person, like doing that and making
• 36:24
  sure now that you work at some large corporation?
• 36:27
  Did you fail the oath?
• 36:28
  Yes.
• 36:29
  And I, but the words that were being used in that room and there were, I don't know exactly
• 36:34
  about 300 students that were there.
• 36:36
  This was the United States version and then those winners are going off to the World Cup,
• 36:40
  which is against the 33 different countries are participating in this.
• 36:46
  And the words that they were using was we need to make sure that these things are sustainable.
• 36:51
  We need to make sure that we are building resilience into our systems.
• 36:55
  We need to make sure that we are connecting our passion to our purpose.
• 36:59
  One of the student groups got asked because when they presented, then they got asked questions
• 37:03
  by a group of judges and says, how are you incentivizing these students because you're
• 37:11
  an actual legitimate company right now?
• 37:13
  How are you incentivizing them that when they graduate, they don't just leave?
• 37:17
  And this like 22 year old stood up and was like, oh, they're like shareholders in this
• 37:27
  company.
• 37:28
  These like 19 year olds are shareholders in our company because they said yes because
• 37:33
  it was connected to their purpose.
• 37:35
  They said yes because we're building a community here.
• 37:38
  They said yes because we're trying to make an impact in the world.
• 37:41
  They said yes because because because and so why wouldn't they automatically be part
• 37:47
  of what we're creating?
• 37:49
  And so I was so inspired because what you had mentioned earlier, like, what are you seeing?
• 37:55
  Like, I'm inspired right now and I'm very excited to be connecting with these students
• 38:01
  to engaging with them because right now it's the tools.
• 38:06
  It's the knowledge.
• 38:07
  Of some knowledge that they're not necessarily getting in their campus and I'm not and
• 38:10
  I'm not saying it's the full responsibility of college campuses to be teaching about health
• 38:16
  and well-being and and all of the different aspects.
• 38:22
  But to provide tools to be to provide access to those tools, not necessarily that they
• 38:27
  need to train them, but to provide access and tools.
• 38:30
  And that's one of the pieces that we're going to be and I love foundation.
• 38:33
  One of the things that you were telling me before was that the goal of the organization
• 38:37
  is not to go run campus organizations, it's to empower young people to run these types
• 38:43
  of organizations on campus themselves, right?
• 38:46
  Give them the structure, give them the tools and let them run it.
• 38:50
  And I see other organizations like Turning Point, USA and athletes in action and these
• 38:56
  college campus, these college groups that have purposefully engaged students in healthy,
• 39:03
  you know, Turning Point of course is politics and religion, right?
• 39:06
  And athletes in action, obviously physical but also charitable where they travel and do
• 39:11
  humanitarian work and it's and I love that stuff like because students, your co-founder
• 39:17
  made a comment at the dinner that students will be an ambassador for something like every
• 39:22
  young person is seeking a purpose and they'll find it and some of them become ambassadors
• 39:28
  of great things and they become the on campus voice for, you know, Turning Point or
• 39:36
  whatever, you know, others become ambassadors of French fries, right?
• 39:40
  Because they're the party animal who's always out doing things but there's a time in that
• 39:46
  point in life that is like people are just young people are creating their identity.
• 39:50
  They're learning to define themselves in an ecosystem where they've never existed because
• 39:55
  they've always been part of a family unit and now they're individuals that they're broken
• 40:01
  away from the hive and now they have to create an identity almost and we all remember what
• 40:06
  that was like and if there were organizations student driven organizations on campuses
• 40:12
  and using your eight dimensions of well-being that are grading campus experiences on these
• 40:20
  levels and empowering student leaders to to create social and intellectual and physical
• 40:28
  and environmental and that literally there's a student group that's like, no, our campus
• 40:33
  is going to have something for all of these eight and maybe three of the eight already exist
• 40:38
  on a campus.
• 40:39
  Yeah, many of them do.
• 40:40
  Absolutely.
• 40:41
  And the students are like, yeah, but we're missing these three.
• 40:44
  You know, we need to be well rounded.
• 40:45
  We don't need the spikes and the spikes and the spikes and then all these deep valleys
• 40:49
  in the areas because as you had mentioned earlier, like a student who never understood financial
• 40:55
  literacy, it kills their social life.
• 40:59
  Maybe they're working three jobs while going to school because they never learned financial
• 41:02
  literacy and now they don't have the social connection that they need because they're
• 41:05
  too busy working.
• 41:06
  Because they don't have the intellectual bandwidth to do what they're doing because they're
• 41:11
  just trying to get past the class because they were working too hard or maybe a student
• 41:17
  who has social issues and is just so anxiety-ridden that they don't engage in any student life
• 41:23
  activities, right?
• 41:25
  College is just a study and get my grades and they miss out on everything else in between,
• 41:30
  right?
• 41:31
  Or the student who doesn't get involved and learn nutrition and learn physical well-being.
• 41:37
  And those types of things, I'm like, I love what you're doing, obviously.
• 41:42
  You know I'm 100% behind what's going on here, but I'm going to wrap us up at the beginning
• 41:48
  of the story and say, how in the world did all of this happen?
• 41:53
  Like that's the story.
• 41:55
  We can talk to you what all of this looks like, but just as I mentioned, there's a point,
• 42:01
  there's an inflection point that something happens, but you have a story on how this even
• 42:05
  came about.
• 42:06
  Yeah, it is such a, last night I went to Christina Weber's curated event and we did this
• 42:16
  activity where you're standing in front of a stranger and you get these prompt questions.
• 42:23
  And one of the prompt questions was the serendipitous moment and that is how all of the foundation
• 42:31
  came to be.
• 42:32
  It was a complete serendipitous moment.
• 42:34
  So I, in my organization, I have been really focusing with organizations on bringing in
• 42:42
  well-being practices.
• 42:44
  So I do a lot of organizational effectiveness, process and communication and really bringing
• 42:52
  in the well-being, the people aspect of it.
• 42:55
  So I have been in the biohacking space for not that long, really only three, four years
• 43:00
  ago was my first day of Asprey event.
• 43:03
  I have been doing it myself, but not necessarily with a group, a community, even knew that the
• 43:09
  term existed outside of my individual doctors.
• 43:12
  And yet you're already with Christina Weber who happens to be Dave Asprey's girlfriend,
• 43:16
  right?
• 43:17
  Is here at a private event with the father of biohacking and his attaché, right?
• 43:22
  So like I said, serendipitous, like, and just the world's come together in the, yes.
• 43:29
  And I had, I planned this trip where I was going to London, specifically to chat with
• 43:37
  the well-being department that they had there for my business or my business.
• 43:42
  And unfortunately, I wasn't able to talk to the specific professor that I was trying
• 43:47
  to speak with at that time, but I ended up leaving.
• 43:51
  My suitcase had four critical thinking, the process of thinking books that I bought and
• 44:00
  brought them, brought them with me.
• 44:02
  And as I'm like looking through these books that I purchased, I just kept saying to myself,
• 44:06
  Rebecca, you just, you just need to listen for this trip, like just, just listen.
• 44:13
  You always are in your critical, like critical thinking mind, your executive, executive cognitive
• 44:19
  thinking space, creativity, innovation, like, I just want you to just listen, and listen.
• 44:28
  And my next stop was Helsinki Finland for Teemoo's biohacking summit that was there.
• 44:36
  And I usually at conferences, I say hi to people and I'm trying to learn all these things.
• 44:47
  And I'm like, I'm not even, I'm just going to just observe.
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  And I just kind of floated through the event.
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  And I ended up in the upstairs, so it was upstairs.
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  You could look down and watch the speeches, but it's also where they were serving food.
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  And so I'm up there eating, and they didn't have garbage cans for some reason.
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  This is important to the story, I promise.
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  And they had these tiny little tables.
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  And so there, it was stacked, like, the tables were just stacked with leftover, like, people's
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  food.
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  And then somebody was coming around and picking up, but this table, like, all the tables
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  still had food on it.
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  And this gentleman walked by me, and something inside of me said, if he walks back, invite
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  him to sit at the table, like, move this stuff over and invite him to sit at the table.
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  And sure enough, he walked back, and I was like, hi sir, like, would you like to sit
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  at my table with me?
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  This is not my stuff.
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  And then I scooted, and he's like, absolutely.
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  So he sat at my table, and it ended up being Nicholas Alblastani.
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  I had no idea who he was.
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  I had never seen him before.
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  And he just sits down, and if you ever met him, he's so charismatic.
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  He just goes into stories, and he just starts talking about, isn't this great?
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  All this information that we're learning?
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  Imagine if you knew this stuff when you were 20.
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  And then he starts to tell me that he has this passion project in his mind that he's been
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  thinking about for a lot of years of, how can we bring this information to college students?
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  And so he's just, and I'm just listening, because that was, like, I don't even know if I
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  asked any questions, maybe at the end, like, probably, like, he just kept going, and I'm
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  just sitting there, and I'm listening.
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  And finally, at the end, I said, that is fast.
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  I also have a passion for college students because of my college experience.
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  And I also have taught in higher education.
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  I've worked with higher education firms for many, many years.
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  My business is around education and training.
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  So I was like, absolutely, this feels, this is great.
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  What a great story.
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  That's interesting.
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  And so we set our goodbyes that evening.
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  I'm sitting next to the water in Helsinki at this little restaurant.
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  And I start pulling out the tools that I use for my clients.
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  So like vision statement, success criteria, what would good look like?
• 47:14
  Who are the stakeholders that would be impacted from starting something like this?
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  What are the different areas you would have to focus on if you wanted to bring something
• 47:24
  like this into an organization, into colleges, into our world?
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  And so I'm just writing all of this stuff down.
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  Then I went back to my hotel room, typed it up because it stayed light until, like, three
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  in the morning there.
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  While I was there, some, like, three in the morning.
• 47:39
  I'm like, okay, it's time to go to bed.
• 47:40
  So I went to bed.
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  And then the next day I see him, and then I realized, like, oh, this person, like, knows
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  all the people.
• 47:51
  And it was really interesting, too, because when he was telling me his story, that dinner
• 47:56
  at that previous day, I went in my head, I said, I feel like this man's an ambassador.
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  I thought that in my head, because he was talking about taking ideas and bringing it to new
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  worlds.
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  And that's what ambassadors do.
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  They go to new worlds, they learn new things, and then they bring it back to their people.
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  They bring the message back in a consumable, digestible way.
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  So the next day I see him, and I said, and I grabbed his arm as he's walking up the stairs
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  and I was like, Nick, if you're really wanting to do this, I want to play.
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  I typed up everything that you talked about yesterday with some of my ideas, and I'm
• 48:37
  going to send it to you after this conference.
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  He's like, okay, right.
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  And then I don't even think I saw, I saw him one other time, like, through, through that
• 48:44
  event, sent him the message when I got home, the exact same day that I sent him that
• 48:49
  email he reached out, and he goes, let's do this.
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  That's fun.
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  And that was July of last year.
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  He ended up flying into Colorado, he had some other, I live in Denver, and he had some
• 49:00
  other business that he needed to do, and we met up like less than a week later in Denver.
• 49:05
  We announced that we were doing this officially at Dave's Business of Biohacking event.
• 49:11
  And then here we are, where we are official official, had our first fundraiser, and we have
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  a plan.
• 49:18
  We have a very specific plan of what we're going to be doing with the funds that we raised
• 49:23
  to start impact.
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  I'm also the, I want to be known someday as like the queen of breaking huge things into
• 49:30
  small, manageable chunks.
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  So yes, when people hear about like, you're trying to do what?
• 49:37
  That's huge.
• 49:38
  It's like, yes, we're not going to all try to do a day.
• 49:40
  It's like one bite at a time, one bite at a time.
• 49:43
  So serendipity, listening, intuition, and I'll say that you know that something magic
• 49:52
  is happening when no one intended it.
• 49:55
  Exactly.
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  That wasn't a moment that somebody was trying to plan.
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  There was nothing contrived about that meeting.
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  No.
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  And I think that is, it's an energy alignment where you were there seeking, and you know,
• 50:06
  when the student is ready, the teacher appears kind of situation, like you were ready to
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  hear and then he was already there ahead of time.
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  I love that.
• 50:16
  I love everything about that.
• 50:17
  Rebecca, I am thrilled at what you're doing.
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  I love the idea of being able to get these types of messages and tools and empowerment really
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  to the college students and let them be the ambassadors of this message to their peer
• 50:31
  groups because peer to peer mentorship is more powerful.
• 50:35
  Absolutely.
• 50:36
  I absolutely love that concept and you know this, but you know, I and my businesses are
• 50:41
  at 100% behind what you're doing and want to support in any way that we can.
• 50:45
  We're going to put information about how people can learn about the lifelong well-being
• 50:48
  foundation, how everything about that can be found in the show notes.
• 50:54
  You can see everything below at lifelongwellbeamfoundation.org.
• 50:59
  I'm certain there's going to be more fundraisers to come.
• 51:02
  There's the opportunity for people to get involved.
• 51:04
  The biggest thing that I think anybody could do and tell me if I'm wrong would be to
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  get you contact information of on-campus ambassadors that already are there.
• 51:12
  Yes, please do.
• 51:13
  Any clubs, if you know of any clubs at college campuses that are focused on any of the
• 51:19
  well-being spaces, please reach out.
• 51:21
  We are trying to curate that information first and foremost to get the word out there
• 51:26
  to our students.
• 51:27
  Let's build this network.
• 51:28
  Let's make contacts with the colleges we know and they don't need to be giant colleges.
• 51:32
  They can be trade schools for that matter.
• 51:34
  We just need to get this information, tend to community colleges and to universities, trade
• 51:37
  schools, you name it, we just need to get this type of information out there so the students
• 51:42
  at least have a cognition that there are eight aspects because students hyperfocus in
• 51:47
  the ones that they enjoy or the ones they understand and they don't even sometimes know
• 51:51
  that they don't understand something.
• 51:53
  Or don't even know that some of them exist or ford exist in their life.
• 51:57
  All of this information will be in the show notes.
• 51:59
  I want you to go take a look at this.
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  Go click on the lifelong well-beingfoundation.org, read that website, learn about it.
• 52:07
  We have all been college students or no people who have been college students and we want
• 52:11
  that experience to be better.
• 52:12
  We literally owe this to the next generation because I believe that we have a generation
• 52:17
  of great men rising up right now and we have a duty to empower them to be the best that
• 52:24
  they possibly can be.
• 52:26
  Thank you for joining us today Rebecca.
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  Thank you so much.