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Olivier Melnick: Plots, Propaganda & Nazi Parallels To The Feast Of Purim · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome. We've got our friend Olivier Melnick, Shalom in Messiah Ministries to
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  Day to talk about the Feast of Purim and more coming up next.
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  prayers but of course your financial support. So today, Olivia Melleneck is
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  back with us. We've got a lot of things to talk about. We've talked about his
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  books before the new anti-semitism. What's happening on college campuses?
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  What's going on in Israel in the Middle East? Today we're going to talk about one of
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  the feasts from the Bible and of the Jews and look at the book of Esther. But
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  first Olivia, good to see your brother. Thanks for your time today. David, thank
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  you so much for having me on the show. It's always a pleasure sharing some time
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  with you. It always is and it goes by way too fast. So let's get to your blog real
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  quick. I love it. I mean we need to call out Hollywood for all their idiocy and
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  their lack of biblical worldview and their hostility toward whether that be
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  Christians or Jews. But you've got an article a new blog on your website in
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  the category anti-Semitic propaganda. The Oscar goes to. So tell us a little bit
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  about that and we'll jump into today's topic. Yeah, I just posted the article
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  hours ago and this was a response to a movie called No Other Land that was
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  directed by two gentlemen, one Arab and one Israeli who co-labored on trying to
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  do a documentary doing a documentary on the situation in Judea Samaria and
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  the territories, so to speak. And they're taking this approach and the
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  documentary that they got to work together towards peace. So you know in you
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  know, if you paint with broad strokes, you know, you know, at 30,000 feet you go
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  like, yeah, yeah, that sounds like a good concept. But then you look at a watch
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  the trailer and I watch the acceptance speech of the two gentlemen and the way
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  they use the platform, the stage at the Oscars to promote anti-Jewish rhetoric
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  and anti-Semitism. And I'm thinking my goodness now, I knew that the Oscars
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  haven't watched the Oscars in probably two decades to be honest. But I knew that
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  it was becoming very political. What was very scary is that when when the
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  statements were made by the acceptance speech by the especially by the Arab
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  guy, people were clapping when he was talking about we have to stop genocide, the
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  ethnic cleansing, they were clapping, they were cheering and it shows you not
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  just the fact that this message is being promoted at the Oscars and you're
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  receiving an Oscar now. But the whole crowd is not going like, I mean, I'm not
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  saying the whole crowd. I'm sure there were people that were probably not in
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  an agreement, but they went along in some kind of a cognitive dissonance that
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  went along to fit in. And at the end of the article, I say, what's next? Are we
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  going to have a new category in a Nobel Prizes anti-Semitic Nobel Prizes?
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  Because that's the next level now.
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  Hmm. Thank you for putting that out there. It's very important. They've been, well,
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  politically correct or political for many years, possibly decades. But in recent
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  years, it's very hostile toward Christianity. And when anti-Semitism comes
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  and we need to call it out, thank you for that. Friends, you can find that at
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  shalominmasaya.com. Shalominmasaya.com. So what the reason I wanted to have
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  you on today is we know there's a need for refreshing people's memory on true
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  biblical history and Jewish history, of course. And I wanted to have you talk about
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  the Feast of Pyram and you have some fascinating connections. If we look at
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  Esther and Heyman, and I really like what you laid out and explained to me, and it
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  would just love for you to just share with our audience. First of all, we have
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  some new believers and new Christians, of course. So what is Pyram? Let's start
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  right there, Olivier. Okay. So the Feast of the Lords, they're all found in
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  Leviticus 23. There's the Shabbat and there's the other seven Levitical Feasts
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  they're given on the Jewish calendar. And those are set in Leviticus, in the Torah, in the law
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  Moses. And then you've got a couple more Hanukkah, which is a response to a festival that we got
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  after the the Jewish revolts against the against the Antiochus epiphanus, you know, before that.
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  And then one more Purim. So Hanukkah and Purim are not non-levitical feasts, but very important
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  why? Because they're mentioned in the Bible. And if it's mentioned in the Bible, there's got to be
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  a reason why it's there. So the Purim is based on the events of the book of Esther. It's also mentioned
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  in the apocryphine, second macabees, which is not inspired, but it gives us historical background.
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  The challenge with with the book of Esther is that it was not accepted in the canon very
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  very early on like the rest of the books. It was not there was no copy of Esther in the Dead Sea
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  scrolls that have been recovered. So the authenticity was debated. And just for a little side note,
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  the book of Esther does not mention, you know, people here, oh yeah, the the name of God is not
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  mentioned. But in the book of Esther, there's no mention of the name of God, the temple, the love
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  of Moses or the Torah, the sacrificial system, Jerusalem, and prayer. All those big, big biblical
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  topics are not mentioned in the book of Esther. That's interesting. And so it's a very interesting
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  book. And that book basically when you read the story in the book of Esther, which is actually
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  what we do in synagogue at Purim, it reads like a play. It really reads like, you've got the
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  characters, you've got Queen Esther, you've got Mordeky or Uncle and Heyman, the bad guy and King
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  Hatsueris. And it's like a play when the people interact and there's good and evil. And it's just
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  you can divide every chapter and we redo this in a synagogue. We read the book every year at Purim,
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  people take turns reading it, or the kids will put a play together based on the story of the book
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  of Esther. And when you think about it, David, the book of Esther is a very powerful illustration
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  of the principle found in Genesis, the early on principle of, that's what Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum
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  calls Israel, God's foreign policy when it comes to Israel, Genesis 12, 3, I'll bless those
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  who bless you and the one who curses you, I will curse. So that's a God's foreign policy when
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  it comes to Israel. And I think the book of Esther, the story of the book of Esther is a perfect
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  example of the blessing and a cursing because at the end of Esther, Heyman, who built the gallows
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  to kill Mordeky and the Jewish people, ends up him and his ten sons end up hanging on the gallows,
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  the very curse that Heyman wanted to inflict upon the Jewish people ended up being inflicted
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  upon him and his family. So that's a curse for a curse. And it's a perfect example of the
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  an illustration of Genesis 12, 3. It is a very interesting book and I'm glad you pointed out
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  macabees and mentioned that those, it's not inspired. What is what does Olivia mean by that? It's not
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  in the canon of true biblical scripture, although you can look at it for accurate history.
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  There's a lot of extra biblical history, meaning books outside of the Bible that you can find
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  that are very accurate and tell the story of what was happening at that time. You know about
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  Jesus, Stephen, prophecies and things like that. So I'm glad you mentioned that. So what you
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  explained to me before we got on the podcast to me is the most fascinating thing. And you got that
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  from Esther 3. Before we go there, is there anything you wanted to set up?
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  No, I wanted to say, you know, going back to macabees, the way to look at macabees, the,
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  you know, first, second, third macabees, we get the story of Hanukkah in there, we get a lot of
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  different historical facts that are accurate. You look at macabees the way you look at the work
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  of Josephus. It's great historical value, not inspired, not the final authority from God's
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  perspective, but it's got historical value. So don't discard it, but don't put it on a pedestal.
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  That's all. Yes. Perfect balance. Don't discard it, but don't put it on a pedestal. Yeah.
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  Good. Good. Right. So the, you know, years ago, I was looking at the book of the story of
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  Purim, you know, the hatred of the Jews. Now, keep in mind that, Heyman, let's start with that.
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  Heyman is called Heyman, the, you know, I have it in one of my, in my notes here, I want to,
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  I want to make sure I say it in Heyman's in the Esther 3.1. After these events, King Asurus promoted
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  Heyman, the son of Amadatta, the Aga guide. Heyman, the Aga guide, it connects Heyman to the
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  Amalekites, Israel's arch enemies. Aga was the king of the Amalekites. You read about him in
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  1 Samuel 15, 7 through 8, when Saul went, went against the Amalekites, killed Aga. So there's a,
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  a long, deep-seated hatred of the Jews between the Amalekites and between the Amalekites and the Jews,
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  and Heyman is connected to that lineage. So that, that kind of puts them in a place where,
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  you know, at the start of the day, at the start of the story, Heyman hates the Jews. And,
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  but what I found fascinating when I looked at Heyman's methodology, I'm looking at how he
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  went against the Jews and I realized that he just, he didn't shoot from the hip. There was a method.
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  And, and if I may, I want to, I want to point to a few passages because you're going to find that
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  Heyman's legacy of hatred actually paved the way for another attempted genocide. And let me,
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  let me explain that. The first thing we see is an Esther 3.5 when Heyman saw that Mordekai
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  neither bad down nor paid homage to him. Heyman was filled with rage. So what you see here is
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  one man's jealousy leading to uncontrolled hatred. Just one man's jealousy. He was jealous,
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  and he was really jealous against one man Mordekai. He hated the fact that Mordekai did not respect
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  him. So that just, he got unhinged and that was, he did not take it very well. Then in 36,
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  from, from being upset at Mordekai, we see that in, in Esther 3.6, but he disdained to lay hands
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  on Mordekai alone. For they had told him who the people of Mordekai were. Therefore, Heyman sought to
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  destroy all the Jews, the people of Mordekai who were throughout the whole kingdom of Hasweris.
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  So now you have one man is, is, is not, not paying homage to, to Heyman. So now he's going to go
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  after all the Jews. Targeted hatred becomes global hatred against one man, not as global. It's against
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  all the Jews. And in, in 313, it says that he was going to, you wanted to destroy, to kill,
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  and annihilate all the Jews, both young and old women and children. Keep that in the back of your
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  mind as I'm, I'm painting a picture here of this, you know, against one man, not targeted against,
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  it's becoming a global. But also, what I found out is that the hatred was caused by non-conformity.
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  They're different. They don't look like us. They don't dress like us. They don't speak like us.
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  They don't eat like us. They're, they don't fit. Esther 3.8, then Heyman said to King Asweris,
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  there's a certain people scattered and dispersed among the peoples and all the provinces of
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  your kingdom. Their laws are different from those of all other people. And they do not observe
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  the King's laws. So it is not in the King's interest to let them remain. So Heyman is talking to
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  the King going, Hey, help me here. Those guys, they don't fit. Let's get rid of them. And he's trying
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  to show the King why it's not in his interest to let the Jews live. So the hatred is caused
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  by non-conformity. They're different. They don't fit. They need to be destroyed. Keep that in the back
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  of your mind. So we already need to take a brief pause here, Olivier. But what's interesting,
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  also about the story is, Heyman convinced the King that all Jews are rebellious and need to be
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  destroyed. Right? You can see that today, it's propaganda. It's really interesting that there
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  are nothing new under the sun. Right? We're going to come back and talk more about this with
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  Olivier Melnik and the website against Shalom in Messiah.com. We'll break back.
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  So friends, thanks again. Because of you and obviously under God, praise you, Lord,
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  we are able and blessed to have such great guests all year long for podcasts a week. And so
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  thank you again. The numbers are surging. Not that I'm all into numbers, but I'm told it's doing
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  very well and growing. The audience is growing on rumble, Facebook, YouTube, Freedom Project,
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  Media app, Spotify, Apple podcast. So it's doing very well. So keep it going, friends. Thanks
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  for your prayers. So Olivier Melnik. So Heyman, let's just get to your next point. Yeah.
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  And I'll I'll I'll just let you take it because we're running out of time quickly.
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  Yes. So the next point is an Esther 3 9 3 11 for the sake of time. I'm not going to read the
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  passage. People can read on their own. But that we see the attempt at destruction being very
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  structured and very organized. You know, Heyman says, if it is pleasing to the king, let it be
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  decreed that they be destroyed. And then there's there are letters with this. They're the king's
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  sitting it, signet ring sent all over the province by couriers to all the king provinces to destroy
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  kill and alienate all the Jews, both young and old and women and children in one day, the 13th
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  day of the 12th month, which is the month of Adar and to seize their possession as plunder. That's
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  also something that we need to to to to keep in in the back of our mind. And one more thing before
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  I make a parallel here, look what Heyman is saying in Esther 3 9 if it is pleasing to the king,
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  let it be decreed that they be destroyed. And I will pay 10,000 talents of silver. So Heyman
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  is going like, I'll use my own fortune. I use my own money to facilitate the destruction of the Jews.
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  So now if you summarize, you've got one men's jealousy led to uncontrolled hatred, targeted hatred
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  becoming global hatred. Hatred caused by non conformity attempt at destruction structured and organized
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  and funding coming from the perpetrator. And you look at all this and you go, I see no difference
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  between what Heyman did and his methodology and what Hitler did in the 30s and 40s. Yes. And I
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  I think that's a very accurate but fascinating connection that you just made here again, friends.
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  Go back and read Esther chapter three and go really slow when you get through some of these
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  verses because the parallel is spot on. So go ahead Olivier. Yeah, no. And another little
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  interesting anecdotal thing is that in 1946, there's a man by the name of Julius Stryker,
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  he was the publisher of the very anti-Semitic magazine called The Stormer. And he was found guilty
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  of war crimes. He was one of Hitler's top officials and he published this magazine and spread it
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  all over Europe for a long time during the war. And so he was guilty of war crimes, crimes against
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  humanity. And in 1946, awaiting his hanging on the gallows seconds before his execution yelled
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  Purim fest 1946 comparing himself to what happened to Heyman, which I think is very interesting.
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  You were saying like, yeah, they're killing me. I tried to do it. And now they're doing to me
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  what they did to Heyman. So it's in his historical history books. And so Purim, you know, so you
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  look at Purim, you know, the Purim, the original Purim in the book of Esther, you fast forward to
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  the 1930s and 40s in the Holocaust. And you see there's nothing new under the sun. And David,
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  you fast forward to today. And you see, you see the rest of the world telling, you know, online
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  in the news on US campuses in books and in conferences, wherever you can find communication
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  that the Jews don't fit. They're different. They're the problem. They're never going to fit in.
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  We need to destroy them. They're, they're trying to control everything. Nothing new under the sun.
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  And apparently people don't learn from history because they're believing that we are the problem.
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  Again, yeah. And that is one of the most disturbing things that we just, well, I think we don't learn
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  from history. But also there's an ignorance of true world history, especially in America when
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  they have rewritten the public school textbooks and people don't know the Bible, right? So they don't
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  know world history. But so it's interesting that, that as you mentioned earlier, his, his hatred
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  and manifested in this plot. And he was willing to put his own money into it. But him as,
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  and his family were executed. And then take us through the rest of, uh, go to Esther chapter nine
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  unless you had another point to make before. No, I just, we know we have, we don't have a whole lot
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  of time left. And I wanted to kind of, you know, I wanted to finish maybe a little bit on a more
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  positive note that the feast of poem really, even though God is not mentioned by name, it really
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  is a testimony to God's faithfulness and God's love for Israel. And again, you know, it's
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  an illustration of Genesis 12, three, blessing the Jews. If you bless them, blessing those who
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  bless the Jews and cursing him who curses the Jews. But in what I think of when I look at, uh,
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  at Purim, you know, for Christians today, you know, you might be thinking, oh, what's in it for me?
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  Well, you know, why should I care about Purim? Well, it's a testimony of God's sovereignty. And I'm
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  just going to give you, we don't have time to read them. And I'm just going to give you a scripture
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  to go to just as a reference. God's sovereignty in Psalm 135, five through seven, God's faithfulness,
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  some 86, 15, God's protection due to run me 31, six. And there, we have a responsibility.
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  Christians today, that would be my challenge. You as a Christian, you have a responsibility,
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  just like Esther said, you know, who knows whether you have not attained royalty for such a time
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  as this? Well, Christians right now, anti-Semitism is exploding. It's everywhere. It's going to get
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  worse in the end times. We are at that time. And Christians have a responsibility for such a time
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  as this to speak up to stand up and to join together against the oldest hatred because that is
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  opening doors in the Jewish community that is going to allow you to share why you love Israel,
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  why you love the Jews, why you speak up against anti-Semitism. And that will give you opportunities
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  for the gospel, if you've never had before. Thank you, Olivia. And Purim is the feast celebrates,
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  celebrating the Jews' deliverance. I think that's very important for us to recognize world history.
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  And God is sovereign over all this. He made all this happen and intervened here. And I just want to
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  read if I, we've got a few minutes left in Esther chapter 9. It's really starting in verse 29,
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  Queen Esther, daughter of Abigail with Mordecai the Jew wrote with full authority to confirm this
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  second letter about Purim. He sent letters to all the Jews to the 127 provinces of the kingdom,
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  namely, words of peace and truth to establish these days of Purim at their appointed times,
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  just as Mordecai the Jew. And Queen Esther had established for them. And then it goes on. And that's
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  just a great point in the book as well. How the Queen Esther came to power. And just any closing
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  thoughts here? We've got about four minutes left to live here. You know, we should start with
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  that saying that Purim is the plural of the word pure, which means lots, the feast of lots,
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  the feast of Esther, the feast of lots. My closing thoughts, I'll tell you Hanukkah, they tried to,
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  they tried to kill us and we got the holiday out of it. And we got special food, Purim,
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  they tried to kill us. We got a holiday and we got special food that we eat. Every festival that
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  we celebrate in Judaism, there's a special time with special food. So to summarize the Jewish
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  calendar, we can do it this way. They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat.
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  So we still have a little bit of time left. That's funny, by the way. We still have a little bit
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  of time left. So let's bring it up to today and what's happening. We've talked about this,
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  not just what's happening in the Middle East, but the anti-Semitism, the irrational hatred of the
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  Jews. But what we've seen in America, do you see any, I know there's always hope, Olivier, but
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  so hope might not be the right word, but do you see any indication that under the Trump
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  administration, anything can be not reversed, but at least changed when it comes to college campuses
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  and the anti-Semitism we've seen at the university level. Let's just start right there because
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  that translates into a lot of young people and a lot of twisted thinking.
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  So under Trump, I think that yes, we will see a change because Trump means what he says and he says
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  what he means. So if he says that schools will lose funding if they promote or if they're allowed
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  things to happen that go against Israel in an anti-Semitic way, he's probably going to push that
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  as far as he can and people are going to pay the price. But I don't think this will end anti-Semitism.
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  It's only going to stop some people because the schools are probably going to work harder at
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  stopping it, but it will continue. It's like it's like poking holes in a sinking ship, you know,
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  you poke a hole and then you're trying to plug it, but somebody else on the other side pokes another
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  hole so it's like, or a whack-a-mole, you know, you're like, you've got to go everywhere. So basically
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  Trump will probably help, but anti-Semitism coming from Satan himself who wants to get rid of
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  the Jews will continue to bring the irrational and make it sound and look rational and enlist,
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  more and more people that you would not expect. And my big fear right now is I've been doing some
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  research on that and writing on it is this push by the conservative right and they've always been
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  friends of Israel. And now you've got a lot of conservatives who are turning their back against
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  Israel and pushing anti-Semitic agendas. I expect it from the left, but the right was more friendly
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  and now there's a shift when the right is also pushing some very anti-Semitic agendas and that's
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  very scary. Now it's to be expected in the end times, but so the long story short, yes, Trump,
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  I think, will help. He will probably punish those who are not friendly to Israel or anti-Semitic,
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  I should say, but that's not going to stop anti-Semitism. And a lot of it comes from us to speak up
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  people at the neighborhood level, at the city level. You can't be silent. You cannot be, you know,
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  silence equates complicity. Yes, and I think that's a good place to end something to take to heart
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  being silent about things that matter. It's what I end every show with. But brother, thank you. You
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  made me want to open up my Bible tomorrow morning and jump into Esther and study that book again.
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  So thank you so much and happy Feast of Pyram. God bless you brother and we'll see you soon,
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  hopefully. Be blessed. Thank you. All right guys, Shalom in Messiah.com. God bless you and as always,
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  keep speaking the truth about things that matter.