Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #674 The Power of Habit
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
- 0:05Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just
- 0:09Speaker 2: once answers.
- 0:10Speaker 3: Now, Okay, school holidays continue, first week of January done.
- 0:15Speaker 3: I don't know if we should be counting down the
- 0:16Speaker 3: year already. Maybe maybe let's just enjoy the holidays and
- 0:19Speaker 3: stop counting.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Sorry, that's my.
- 0:21Speaker 3: I've created a habit over the years of just counting
- 0:25Speaker 3: the weeks and the days, the months as our life
- 0:29Speaker 3: disappears before our eyes, and it happens faster and faster
- 0:33Speaker 3: as you get.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Older and older.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Hello, this is doctor Justin Colson, the founder of Happy
- 0:38Speaker 3: Families dot com, do a You, and the host of
- 0:41Speaker 3: Oh Sorry, the co host and parenting expert on Channel
- 0:43Speaker 3: nine's Parental Guidance Season two coming soon.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I'm here with Kylie, my wife mo to our six kids.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Kylie, the idea with our summer series is to keep
- 0:51Speaker 3: our podcast under five minutes. We've been doing a terrible
- 0:53Speaker 3: job of it all week because we're pretty pumped about
- 0:56Speaker 3: making this year the best year ever and being the
- 0:58Speaker 3: best parents we can be this year. So we've been
- 1:01Speaker 3: talking about all kinds of things related to goals and
- 1:04Speaker 3: systems and journaling and doing all the things that make
- 1:08Speaker 3: life great Today, we just want to talk about one
- 1:11Speaker 3: simple thing, and.
- 1:12Speaker 1: That is the power of habit. Charles Dewi wrote a
- 1:16Speaker 1: book called that a few years ago.
- 1:17Speaker 3: James Clear followed that up with Atomic Habits, which is
- 1:21Speaker 3: one of your favorites and.
- 1:22Speaker 1: One of mine as well.
- 1:23Speaker 3: So there's a handful of things to talk about when
- 1:25Speaker 3: it comes to habits. Ultimately, if you want your family
- 1:27Speaker 3: to be happier, if you want to be a better parent,
- 1:30Speaker 3: it's about establishing better habits. So what's your habit when
- 1:33Speaker 3: your children tick you off?
- 1:36Speaker 1: Is it to sigh? Is it to roll your eyes?
- 1:38Speaker 1: Is it to yell and shout and scream? Is it
- 1:40Speaker 1: to threaten them? Is it to take something off them?
- 1:43Speaker 3: Or is your habit to pause, to take a beat, water,
- 1:50Speaker 3: and whatever else you need as well to pull it together?
- 1:53Speaker 3: Is your habit to lean in, to explore rather than explode,
- 1:57Speaker 3: to understand, not reprimand to get curious not furious. If
- 2:03Speaker 3: you can do those things, then you're probably well on
- 2:06Speaker 3: the path to a happier family and better parenting.
- 2:09Speaker 1: But how do you create the habit?
- 2:11Speaker 3: That's what we want to talk about over the next
- 2:13Speaker 3: couple of minutes of this podcast, and we're going to
- 2:15Speaker 3: keep it really brief.
- 2:16Speaker 2: When I was reading Atomic Habits last year, one of
- 2:21Speaker 2: the things that stood out to me was just how
- 2:25Speaker 2: minuscule the changes need to be.
- 2:28Speaker 1: To create change over time.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Yeah. So for me, when I look at where the
- 2:35Speaker 2: gaps are in my life, the things that I want
- 2:37Speaker 2: to change, I feel like I have to do a
- 2:40Speaker 2: whole revolution. I have to change everything to you know,
- 2:46Speaker 2: create the lifestyle that I want. And the reason James
- 2:50Speaker 2: calls this book Atomic Habits is because he's suggesting that
- 2:53Speaker 2: the changes that we actually need to make are like
- 2:55Speaker 2: these tiny little tweaks.
- 2:57Speaker 3: So that ties in with Darren Hardy's book The Compound Effect,
- 3:00Speaker 3: the idea that if you do that small, that tiny
- 3:02Speaker 3: little thing, that tiny little tweak consistently day in and
- 3:05Speaker 3: day out, that over time the results compound.
- 3:09Speaker 1: And if you look not.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Three minutes or three hours or three days down the track,
- 3:13Speaker 3: but three years or even three decades down the track,
- 3:16Speaker 3: that's where you see the change.
- 3:17Speaker 2: The biggest challenge for most of us, I think, is
- 3:19Speaker 2: that it's so hard to keep doing what we're doing
- 3:23Speaker 2: when we don't feel like we're getting the change that
- 3:27Speaker 2: we want.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Right the instant reward. I've been to the gym three
- 3:31Speaker 1: days in a row, Why haven't I lost the twelve killers?
- 3:33Speaker 3: Really really hard?
- 3:34Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're telling me I have to wait three
- 3:36Speaker 2: years before I'm going to actually see the results that
- 3:39Speaker 2: I want.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Delayed gratification. It's a killer.
- 3:41Speaker 2: It's hard.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 3: So that reminds me, as you say that, of a
- 3:44Speaker 3: couple of things that I think are really worth emphasizing.
- 3:47Speaker 3: The first is something that I share when I'm talking
- 3:49Speaker 3: to high performance teams in corporations and in schools, when
- 3:52Speaker 3: I'm talking to adults about well being sort of stuff,
- 3:55Speaker 3: and I'll highlight that dieting for a day won't change
- 3:57Speaker 3: your life, going to the gym for a day won't
- 3:59Speaker 3: change your life. Telling your wife a husband that you
- 4:02Speaker 3: love them for a day won't change your marriage.
- 4:06Speaker 1: But if you do this stuff every single day.
- 4:08Speaker 3: So I guess when I think about your marriage, our
- 4:12Speaker 3: marriage together, I was going to say your marriage to me,
- 4:15Speaker 3: but it's our marriage to one another. The marriage that
- 4:18Speaker 3: we have isn't what it is because one day I
- 4:21Speaker 3: got it right or one day you got it right.
- 4:23Speaker 3: It's because consistently for twenty four years, now twenty five years,
- 4:27Speaker 3: is it twenty it's twenty five years. This, No, it's
- 4:30Speaker 3: twenty four years. Hang on, I always get the year
- 4:32Speaker 3: mixed up. Nineteen ninety eight, it's nineteen ninety eight. Twenty
- 4:36Speaker 3: five years, twenty five years. I can't believe it.
- 4:38Speaker 1: This year.
- 4:39Speaker 2: It's a big milestone.
- 4:40Speaker 1: That's a big one. Wow.
- 4:42Speaker 3: For twenty five years, we have been consistent in doing
- 4:46Speaker 3: the small things, reaching out and touching each other when
- 4:48Speaker 3: we walk past, looking one another in the eyes, giving
- 4:50Speaker 3: each other kisses regularly. It's about making the consistent investment
- 4:54Speaker 3: in I think it was nineteen eleven, nineteen eleven.
- 4:57Speaker 2: We haven't been married that long.
- 4:59Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
- 4:59Speaker 3: In nineteen eleven, Robert Falcon Scott and Roald Amerson were
- 5:03Speaker 3: essentially in a race to the South Pole, and they
- 5:07Speaker 3: had different strategies, different tactics, different ways of getting there.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Scott was the Englishman trying to do a whole lot of.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Things for science foundations and sponsors, and he had a
- 5:17Speaker 3: really tough agenda, and so he was right under the
- 5:20Speaker 3: pump and when the weather was good, they would go
- 5:23Speaker 3: on million miles an hour, do as much as they could,
- 5:25Speaker 3: and then they'd just collapse. And if the weather was bad.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Then obviously they just hunkered down. But Roald Aminson, the Norwegian,
- 5:31Speaker 3: what he would do is do twenty miles every single day,
- 5:34Speaker 3: so it's a three thousand kilometer round trip. And what
- 5:37Speaker 3: Amonson did was every day he did his thirty K's
- 5:40Speaker 3: took him one hundred days, ninety nine days in fact
- 5:42Speaker 3: to do it, because he got up and he just
- 5:44Speaker 3: did the work every single day. So as a as
- 5:47Speaker 3: a parent, what is the work? What's the habit? What's
- 5:50Speaker 3: the system that you can create? What's your twenty mile march?
- 5:57Speaker 2: Honestly, when you say it, it seemed it's like it's
- 6:01Speaker 2: too easy. It actually seems like it's too easy, and
- 6:05Speaker 2: therefore it's not going to work.
- 6:07Speaker 1: It's kind of like writing a book, though.
- 6:08Speaker 3: If I get up every day and I write a
- 6:10Speaker 3: certain number of words, within a couple of months, the
- 6:12Speaker 3: book is written. I've got to do all the research,
- 6:15Speaker 3: I've got to do all the planning, but just writing
- 6:18Speaker 3: those words every day and suddenly you've written a book, an.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Entire book that you've written. It's phenomenal. How that works.
- 6:24Speaker 3: Parenting's the same, It's just that the metrics aren't quite
- 6:27Speaker 3: as obvious, Like you can't get up and run five
- 6:30Speaker 3: k's every day and say, all right, I'm going to
- 6:31Speaker 3: be a good parent because I ran my five k's.
- 6:33Speaker 3: But that five k run, metaphorically is when the kids
- 6:37Speaker 3: are angry, I don't shout, or when I need to
- 6:40Speaker 3: talk to my children, I walk into the room and
- 6:43Speaker 3: I meet their eyes, or I mean, pick your thing.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Whatever it is that you want to change, it's about
- 6:49Speaker 3: getting it right today, but also tomorrow and also the
- 6:52Speaker 3: day after, and getting it right every single flipping day
- 6:55Speaker 3: for twenty years until they finally are adults and you've
- 6:58Speaker 3: gotten to write consistently. Is that ongoing investment, creating the habit.
- 7:02Speaker 3: That's how we make our families function. That's how we
- 7:06Speaker 3: become better parents.
- 7:07Speaker 2: I guess at the heart of all of that is
- 7:09Speaker 2: just it's it's the discipline that it takes us to
- 7:12Speaker 2: do that. Because some days it's easy, okay, well it's
- 7:15Speaker 2: really easy to show up, and other days it's not.
- 7:18Speaker 2: And on those days, a rule that I love to
- 7:23Speaker 2: remember is to not miss two days in a row.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Great, well, I was going to say, give me some strategies.
- 7:28Speaker 3: I've got a handful as well, But that's that's a
- 7:30Speaker 3: perfect one. So if I've made a commitment and I'll
- 7:32Speaker 3: just stick with the don't yell at the kid's idea
- 7:34Speaker 3: as the or don't smack the kids, or don't whatever
- 7:37Speaker 3: it is, I'm going to stop doing this thing. What
- 7:40Speaker 3: you want to do is make that the commitment and
- 7:43Speaker 3: if you blow it, just don't blow it. Two days
- 7:44Speaker 3: in a row, reinstate the commitment. The other thing that
- 7:47Speaker 3: you can do, though, is you can have a commitment device.
- 7:49Speaker 3: This is one of my favorites. So commitment device is
- 7:51Speaker 3: essentially that thing that makes things happen for me. If
- 7:54Speaker 3: I want to exercise, my commitment device is my friends.
- 7:58Speaker 3: I don't exercise otherwise, I want that social thing for
- 8:01Speaker 3: our daughters. As we mentioned on the podcast yesterday, they're
- 8:04Speaker 3: not going to run unless they've got me running alongside them,
- 8:08Speaker 3: my involvement. That's the commitment device. Now, sometimes it's people.
- 8:11Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a thing. It's a decision that you've made
- 8:14Speaker 3: that if I do this, I get that, or whatever
- 8:16Speaker 3: it might be. But absolutely essential. There's probably a couple
- 8:20Speaker 3: of other things that we could do though, to really
- 8:22Speaker 3: make these habits stick.
- 8:24Speaker 2: James clear talks about stacking habits. Oh yeah, and this
- 8:27Speaker 2: was actually really useful for me. So if there is
- 8:30Speaker 2: something that I'm already doing and it's just habitual that
- 8:34Speaker 2: I do, I don't even have to think about it.
- 8:35Speaker 1: So you're already brushing your teeth, you might as well
- 8:37Speaker 1: add flossing to the.
- 8:39Speaker 2: You add something else to it, so it has to
- 8:41Speaker 2: kind of make sense that you do it. So for me,
- 8:43Speaker 2: during winter time, I actually forget to drink right, Like,
- 8:46Speaker 2: I just stopped drinking, and I get to the end
- 8:49Speaker 2: of the day and I've got the worst headache in
- 8:50Speaker 2: the world. And so I decided to stack the habit
- 8:54Speaker 2: of walking into the kitchen. How many times do you
- 8:57Speaker 2: walk into the kitchen every day?
- 9:00Speaker 3: A lot?
- 9:01Speaker 2: Yes, if you're working from home or you live, you
- 9:03Speaker 2: know you're at home during the day. And so I
- 9:05Speaker 2: just decided that every time I walked into the kitchen,
- 9:09Speaker 2: I would take a drink of water. I didn't tell
- 9:11Speaker 2: myself that I had to drink a whole cup or whatever.
- 9:13Speaker 2: It was, just every time I came into the kitchen,
- 9:15Speaker 2: I would have water. And I went from pretty much
- 9:18Speaker 2: drinking no water during the day to doing two and
- 9:20Speaker 2: a half liters without even thinking about it.
- 9:22Speaker 3: So an easy parenting corollary is to say, every time
- 9:25Speaker 3: I walk into a room that one of my children
- 9:27Speaker 3: are in, I'm going to call out their name and
- 9:29Speaker 3: smile at them and tell them that I love them,
- 9:31Speaker 3: or I'm going to reach out and squeeze their elbow
- 9:33Speaker 3: or acknowledge them in some positive and kind way. That's
- 9:36Speaker 3: the idea. That's that idea of habit stacking. The child
- 9:39Speaker 3: becomes the commitment device as well. You've got those things,
- 9:41Speaker 3: you know, at the very core of it, and we
- 9:43Speaker 3: need to wrap this up. But at the very core
- 9:44Speaker 3: of it, I think that if we want to create
- 9:46Speaker 3: better habits, better systems, it's one thing to come up
- 9:50Speaker 3: with all these techniques and strategies and to have your
- 9:52Speaker 3: twenty mile march and make sure you're doing that thing
- 9:54Speaker 3: day and day out consistently. But what you really want
- 9:57Speaker 3: is to have a sense of identity around.
- 10:00Speaker 1: This is the kind of person I am.
- 10:02Speaker 3: Because fit people exercise every day or most days, they
- 10:07Speaker 3: very rarely missed two in a row. They might miss
- 10:09Speaker 3: one now and then, And it's the same with parents
- 10:11Speaker 3: who are really striving to build that great relationship with
- 10:13Speaker 3: their kids. They're going to get it wrong every now
- 10:15Speaker 3: and again.
- 10:15Speaker 1: We all do.
- 10:16Speaker 3: But if we get it wrong now, we don't get
- 10:18Speaker 3: it wrong again tomorrow. We make sure we pull it
- 10:20Speaker 3: together for tomorrow, and we maintain that intention because it's
- 10:24Speaker 3: because we are that kind of person.
- 10:27Speaker 1: We really hope this has been helpful. Thanks so much
- 10:28Speaker 1: for listening.
- 10:29Speaker 3: To our Happy Families Summer series on the Happy Families Podcast.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Back again on Monday. We're going to be focusing on
- 10:34Speaker 3: how to get the most out of summer and holidays
- 10:37Speaker 3: with the kids. That's on the Happy Families Podcast.