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Elevate Ep 32: Redefining Education with Joe Heidt, Executive Director of Marian Preparatory School · Elevate Podcast: Powered by Braden

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  content. Now, let's dive in. Hey
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  everybody, Jason here with another
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  episode of the Elevate Powered by Braden
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  smaller companies, but all with a local
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  flare.
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  >> And you know, Joe, you and I have known
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  each other for a while, but Joe, welcome
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  to the show.
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  >> Thank you so much, Jason.
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  >> And let everybody let everybody know
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  where you are today.
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  >> Okay. Well, I'm Joe Heights. Uh Jason
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  and I met probably six, seven years ago,
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  >> something like that.
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  >> Something like that. And I've been with
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  Mary University for uh a little over
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  five years. and uh serve currently as
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  the executive director of Mary
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  University preparatory school.
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  >> It's awesome. So, we'll get to that part
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  of your story, but let's go back to your
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  genesis. So, where are you from
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  originally?
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  >> Originally from Indianapolis, Indiana.
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  No kidding. So, what part of the city?
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  So, I grew up over by the Castleson
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  area.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> So, uh you know, I went to Heritage
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  Christian for elementary school and then
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  Okay.
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  >> Eastwood, then North Central
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  off to college and so on.
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  >> So, let's talk a little. So, North
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  Central. Yes. So, high school here in
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  Indianapolis. As you're thinking about
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  going to the university, going to
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  college somewhere, where are you
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  thinking about going
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  >> and what do you think you're going to
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  study?
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  >> Oh, when I was in, you know, when I was
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  in high school at the time, I wasn't
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  exactly sure what I wanted to study.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> Uh, and I remember my dad has some
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  really great advice. He said, "Joe, uh,
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  you know, if you're not sure exactly
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  what industry you want to go into, maybe
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  pursue a degree in business
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  >> because,
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  you know, business applies to all
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  different industries and you're going to
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  have to understand finance, you're going
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  to have to understand accounting, you're
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  going to have to understand human
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  resources, etc., etc." And he said, "You
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  know, it'll come to you as you begin to
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  do internships and those types of
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  things. What's the actual inj industry
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  that you're interested in?"
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> But, uh, so I chose that. I ended up my
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  uh my focus was entrepreneurship and
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  small business management.
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  >> No kidding.
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  >> What great advice from your dad?
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  >> It was really good advice.
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  >> What' your dad What'd your dad do?
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  >> So my dad uh ran some small businesses
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  as well.
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  >> Okay. Absolutely.
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  >> So he was a business.
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  >> He was a businessman. Absolutely.
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  >> All right. So he he puts that out there.
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  So that's where you're going to study.
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  Where you end up going to college?
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  >> So I was at Indiana University my first
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  year and ended up moving out to
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  Colorado. And so you know got got a
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  part-time job and all that fun stuff. So
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  I was able to uh at a certain point in
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  time get instate tuition. So I went to
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  the University of Colorado for the
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  remainder of my undergraduate career.
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  No,
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  >> you know I use an amazing school. That's
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  where I ended up getting my masters.
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  Ironically, it was just a uh you know
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  when you're thinking of where you are
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  when you're 19 years old and
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  opportunities that present. I was
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  visiting with friends and I learned how
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  you know if you if you were diligent
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  enough that you could essentially attend
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  uh for for about the same prices. I kid
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  you after one year out of state is all
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  parents know is can be a little bit
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  painful but uh after one year I was able
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  to get uh instate by working and doing
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  all those things paying taxes.
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  >> Yeah. Doing whatever you're supposed to
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  do as a resident. Absolutely. But now
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  you're in sunny Colorado. Yes. And and
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  you like it. This is beautiful place.
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  All right. So, so you finish up your
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  four years, get your degree.
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  >> I did. I did.
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  >> So, what what do you think you're going
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  to do when you get out of college?
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  >> You know, at that time, uh, you know,
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  kind of ironic. I was interested in the
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  hospitality, food industry is where I
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  thought I was going to go with that.
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  Really?
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  >> I did. Yeah.
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  >> So, so tell me about that. What was the
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  was it what was the experience or
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  something you thought it was going to
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  be?
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  >> I had an internship. You might remember
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  Rock Bottom Brewery that was down. So I
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  my internship was with Rock Bottom
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  Brewery in Denver. Okay. And um you know
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  I sure they don't want to take credit
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  but they were like they had a lot of
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  different interns and where are you
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  from? Because a lot of University of
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  Colorado similar to Indiana University
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  today. Sure 50% were out of state. And
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  so they got a lot of input from
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  different students. I was like oh I
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  think Indianapolis would be great. Now I
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  can guarantee you it wasn't on word of
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  Joe Height that they put up. Hey, hey,
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  but they did a little research. I had
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  the sui, but again, that was where I
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  thought I was going to go. I've always
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  been a people person and enjoy doing
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  that. And so, uh, after college, I I got
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  involved, uh, with some organizations
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  that were in that industry and, you
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  know, got involved in some management
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  programs that they offered.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> Really enjoyed it. But in the interim
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  time, if you're familiar with Junior
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  Achievement, Yeah. Sure. So, Junior
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  Achievement back in those days, folks
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  would go into the classrooms, let it be
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  middle school, high school. I was going
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  into high school classrooms and teaching
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  about and supporting the economics
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  teacher from a business perspective.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> And I really enjoyed it. Really?
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  >> I did. So, that that that was your first
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  kind of little education.
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  >> That was my first uh flavor. I was long
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  ago in high school and college. I was a
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  camp counselor in the summertime. the
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  architecture come. So that was fun. But
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  I would say in terms of actually being
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  in that opportunity to develop skills
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  for students in terms of awareness how
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  things connect from what you're doing
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  from school to that to the professional
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  career. That was my first exposure to
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  it. Okay.
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  >> I really enjoyed it. Um
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  >> and so about give or take a couple years
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  later I took a trip down to IU.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> Uh met with a gentleman uh his name is
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  Fred. Never forget him. Ironically, he
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  had come from University of Colorado and
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  was at IU Bloomington.
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  >> Oh, no kidding.
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  >> Yeah. So, we had a great college.
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  >> Yeah, sure. Yeah. But, um, you know, we
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  talked about, you know, what I wanted to
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  possibly experience and enjoy. And so, I
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  ended up getting my master's in social
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  studies with a focus on business,
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  economics, government.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> And so, I focused on teaching probably
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  your juniors and seniors in high school.
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  Okay. My goal was So, yeah, that was the
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  goal. The goal was to go to high school,
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  start teaching juniors and seniors. So
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  that elevated age in the still K through
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  12.
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  >> Correct.
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  >> And so do you end up doing that?
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  >> I did uh you know at that point in time
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  I'll never forget this and it was kind
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  of interesting. You think about how
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  times have changed. Uh when I met with
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  some professors they did share they said
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  now mind you I'm a little bit older. You
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  and I similar age somewhat. uh they at
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  that time they said and this is the
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  beginning of this century that uh that
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  your social studies positions there's a
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  hundred applicants for every single job
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  in the Midwest. There is no kidding.
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  >> Absolutely. There's so many teachers
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  trying to get jobs in social studies in
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  the Midwest that you're they recommended
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  maybe I look at the coast because that's
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  where the opportunities were beat.
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  >> I would had no idea.
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  >> You wouldn't narrow myself. I mean
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  today's day and age is complete reverse,
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  right?
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  >> Yeah. Right. Yeah. But uh so I took
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  their advice, had some friends out San
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  Francisco, pay him a visit, met with
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  about three different schools, and one
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  of those schools was Archbishop Ruden
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  High School.
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  >> Okay. And they offered me a uh teacher
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  position to be economics and government
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  and uh you know, and some quasi
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  business, you know, business development
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  courses and type that type of thing. So
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  I accepted the offer and and really
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  enjoyed I was a teacher there for about
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  uh into my third year. Um the principal
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  shared with me he said hey you seem to
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  have a pretty good understanding of how
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  not only to teach but how businesses
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  >> oper and I said well then he asked me
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  tell me a little bit about you and again
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  this was a different gentleman that then
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  had interviewed me. Okay.
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  >> And uh I shared a little bit about my
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  background, business degrees, those
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  types of things. Uh working for uh you
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  know, worked a little bit for the family
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  business at one point in time. And he
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  said, "I'd really like you to consider
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  becoming an administrator."
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  >> Okay.
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  >> And so that's when um they said, "Hey,
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  we'll we'll split some of the costs with
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  you to pursue it." Uh, so I was going to
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  classes at UCLA and Stanford in the
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  summertime and Berkeley and that kind of
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  thing and ended up uh being an
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  administrator of that particular school
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  in uh about a year and a half later. No
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  kidding. Yeah. So, so a couple of things
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  stick out to me, Joe. Right. So, we've
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  talked many times, but you pick up as a
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  sophomore, head to Colorado, have some
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  fun in the sun,
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  >> you come back home to Indianapolis, and
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  then you just pick up and go to Northern
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  California. And so I mean so now you've
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  traveled a couple places here.
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  >> Life's a journey.
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  >> Life's a journey, right? And so all
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  right, so at this point you you've
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  realized what you love to do, which is
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  education.
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  >> You've gotten up to Northern California
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  and you've gotten now your first role
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  where you're an administrator.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> Teaching was awesome. I will tell you
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  for all those that are interested in
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  becoming teachers, probably my favorite
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  job of all time. And it's so great to
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  hear you say that to be able to work
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  with students. I uh I remember someone
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  asked me and they said, "What do you
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  like most living in California? Your
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  weekends, you know, obviously you're
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  working." I said, "Well, believe it or
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  not, my weekdays, though different, are
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  just as enjoyable as my weekends."
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> And so, how many times in life do you
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  get to share that?
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  >> Yeah. Sure. If you're if you're an
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  aspiring teacher, if you're interested
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  in becoming a teacher, I would strongly
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  encourage it or at least to take a look
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  at it because it is an incredibly
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  rewarding and enjoyable profession to be
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  able to shape and develop students lives
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  is is wonderful.
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  >> Yeah, great advice. Love that. So, so
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  you're in Northern California, you're
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  running administrator of a school.
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  Where's the story go next?
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  >> From there, uh I met my wonderful wife
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  Stacy. at the time, I'm sure you know,
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  there's a slight different cost of
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  living in the Bay Area.
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  >> Just a bit,
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  >> just a bit than there is in
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  Indianapolis. And so, uh, my wife's from
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  a suburb of of San Francisco called
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  Walmouth Creek. Okay.
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  >> And so, we were looking at, um, I was
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  looking at how am I going to swing being
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  able to afford San Francisco, uh, to
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  that of a, you know, an educator's
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  salary. And so lo and behold, I found
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  myself in commercial real estate.
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  It was the shortest interview of my
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  life. We a friend of a friend introduced
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  me to the CEO of uh it was uh BT
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  Commercial at the time. Uh largest
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  commercial real estate company in
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  basically like Sacramento, San Jose, San
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  Francisco. Uh Mike was his name and he
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  asked me, he said, "Wait, you've got
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  degrees, you're an administrator, you
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  know, you got this experience. You know,
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  why?" And I said, "Honestly, based upon
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  cost of living, I think I have to double
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  my income rather quickly." Cuz you know,
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  I've met a woman that I that I would
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  like to possibly marry. And so, so he
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  said, "Oh, you're hired. You're hiring.
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  You have a lot I need. You're going to
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  work real hard."
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  >> He said, "That's the motivation we like
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  for." So, so that's how I ended up in
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  commercial real estate. Uh, I was did
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  that for a couple years in Denver or
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  excuse me, in San Francisco. And then
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  with the same company, it was an
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  umbrella called NI Global. did a lateral
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  move to Denver. Okay.
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  >> Uh with that company and was in
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  commercial real estate out there for
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  about three and a half years as well.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> So a pit stop for five to six years is
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  all right. So now you're pit stop and
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  dry and that's obviously a good good
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  role.
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  >> It was a great Right. Yeah.
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  >> But but not not exactly what your wife
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  would say not what I set out to do and
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  all sincerity as you asked about high
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  school. I wasn't 100% sure what I was
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  setting out to do. And so, uh, to your
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  point, um, at the time my wife and I,
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  uh, she was pregnant with our daughter,
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  Nola, and I went up to visit, uh, some
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  family friends in in the mountains to go
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  snowking. Yep. This is probably
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  literally 30 days before we're expecting
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  my daughter to be born. And when I was
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  out there, um, you know, a gentleman had
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  called one of his friends who we were
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  skiing with and said, "Hey, do you by
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  chance know anyone that's been a high
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  school teacher, high school
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  administrator, but also worked with
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  seuite individuals in a business
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  development capacity?"
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  >> Well, the answer would be no. In almost
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  every case, it always like that, right?
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  There's a purple unicorn.
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  >> It was unique. And so the gentleman
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  friend said, "Hey, Joe, phone's for
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  you."
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  >> No kidding. That is honestly how it
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  happened. I was in ski boots and ski
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  pants and all the above and the
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  individual that I was talking to from
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  Indianapolis said, "Have you ever heard
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  of the Christo Ray network?"
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  >> And I said, "No, I have not." So, he
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  shared a little bit about the Chris Ray
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  network uh which is a school system
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  approximately give or take 50 schools
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  across the nation. uh they serve
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  exclusively students with great promise
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  but limited financial means
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  >> and they provide them uh business
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  internship opportunities or work study
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  opportunities uh in concert with their
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  high school education which is college
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  preparatory. So uh you know it was
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  incredibly compelling. So about two
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  weeks after my daughter was born, I flew
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  out to meet with him in Indianapolis and
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  uh I pleasantly accepted an invitation
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  to serve as the president of the uh
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  Indiana Chris Ray School, which is
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  called Province Christian Ray.
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  >> Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I did
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  that for a little over seven years. So
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  this brings you at this point, right? So
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  you're in Northern California, moved to
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  Colorado from Colorado back to
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  Indianapolis all the while bringing your
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  wife who's in Northern California.
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  Right. So right so you bring her and and
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  a kiddo.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> All right. So now you're in Indie and
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  your province Chris Ray in the school
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  was here in Indianapolis.
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  >> Yes. Still is. Yeah. Still it's um the
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  school that I was at was located over by
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  the zoo. Mhm.
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  >> Um and then now they're a little bit
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  more uh south downtown, central south
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  downtown. But uh great school. You know,
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  to your point, my wife a lot of patience
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  uh is shifting from from her hometown to
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  uh to Denver to Indianapolis. So I give
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  her a lot of credit for uh willingness
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  to make that kind of journey.
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  >> Uh and you we've raised our kids. I have
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  also we had about three years later of
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  sons. So daughter Nola is a South Horn
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  High School.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> At Burbuff Jesuit High School and our
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  son's a sixth grader at St. Luke's
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  Catholic School.
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  >> It's awesome.
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  >> Yeah. So the And so your son was born
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  here.
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  >> He was.
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  >> Okay. Gotcha. All right. So seven years
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  at Christo Providence Christo
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  >> and obviously we know you end up at
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  Marian University Preparatory School.
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  >> Absolutely.
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  >> So is that the next step in the journey?
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  >> You know it was interesting. Um the
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  unique part and why I think they were
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  looking for individuals that also knew
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  how to develop relationships with uh
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  seuite business owners was or business
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  operators was again creating that work
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  study experience.
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  >> Yeah, it's a unique model. it is unique
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  model and so that that was a a really
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  enjoyable time and at that time you know
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  again a while ago uh this was probably
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  in 2000 and uh oh gosh what would that
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  be 2017 somewhere in that low heart okay
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  you know I met with a number of our
• 15:46
  board members which were absolutely
• 15:47
  incredible and a lot of the board
• 15:49
  members were executives of the companies
• 15:52
  that partnered with us and then said hey
• 15:53
  this is such a great mission we're going
• 15:55
  to go ahead and be involved in the
• 15:57
  school in a more intentional capacity
• 15:59
  beyond just providing the work study.
• 16:01
  And so, um, I was really pleased. They
• 16:04
  were incredibly gracious and some of
• 16:06
  them said, "Hey, you've done a great
• 16:08
  job. What's next for Joe Height?" And
• 16:10
  so, uh, I was blessed to be offered a
• 16:13
  all kind of around the same period of
• 16:15
  time. So, it was unique. Was God guiding
• 16:17
  me? You know, those types of things. I
• 16:19
  was offered a a a few different
• 16:21
  opportunities. And so, I pursued one of
• 16:22
  them. uh and after that uh you know was
• 16:27
  an opportunity to acquire uh to be part
• 16:29
  of an acquisition of a company. It
• 16:31
  didn't play out exactly. Great company,
• 16:33
  great individuals. Uh maybe just not the
• 16:36
  perfect fit for me.
• 16:37
  >> And so at that point in time, I was
• 16:39
  serving as a consultant.
• 16:41
  >> Okay.
• 16:41
  >> Uh for in K through 12 and I joined
• 16:45
  Shephardd Insurance, the wonderful folks
• 16:47
  over at Shepard Insurance. Uh that's how
• 16:49
  you and I met. That's how you and I met.
• 16:51
  And I was focused on I had a variety of
• 16:55
  different clients, but uh my basis was K
• 16:57
  through college.
• 16:58
  >> Yeah, that's right.
• 16:59
  >> And I was working with President Ellner
• 17:02
  a little bit talking about what they
• 17:04
  were doing at Mary University and some
• 17:05
  of the things that uh Shepard could be
• 17:08
  involved with. I was involved with
• 17:09
  healthc care benefits collaborate with a
• 17:11
  gentleman with 401k because if you think
• 17:13
  about schools,
• 17:14
  >> you know what's the most expensive
• 17:15
  schools things have? Facilities. Yeah.
• 17:17
  uh as well as people and depending upon
• 17:20
  where you're at, one's more expensive
• 17:21
  than the other, but you know, your
• 17:23
  benefits are a key component of being
• 17:25
  able to uh you know, provide the needs
• 17:27
  of teachers as well as staff members.
• 17:29
  And so I was serving in that capacity
• 17:31
  and President Ellener extended an
• 17:34
  invitation to me to uh serve as the
• 17:38
  chancellor of opening a new campus of
• 17:41
  Mary Universities up in Northern Indiana
• 17:43
  by Plymouth, Indiana.
• 17:44
  >> That's right. Absolutely. So, uh, I
• 17:46
  accepted the generous, uh, invitation. I
• 17:50
  served in that capacity. Quite the
• 17:52
  commute. Yeah. Right. But I served in
• 17:55
  that capacity for a little over two and
• 17:57
  a half years. Okay. With Mar University
• 18:00
  um, and getting the school established
• 18:02
  in the line with the programs in terms
• 18:05
  of degree programs so forth that we had
• 18:08
  on Indianapolis campus. So, really
• 18:09
  enjoyed that for about two little over
• 18:12
  two and a half years. And then uh
• 18:14
  President Ellner said, "Hey, we've got
• 18:16
  another need for you in Indianapolis."
• 18:18
  Because they had started about, I would
• 18:21
  say, a year and a half before this time.
• 18:25
  Uh a preparatory school.
• 18:28
  >> No kidding.
• 18:28
  >> Okay. And so he shared, "Hey, you've got
• 18:30
  a lot of experience and lee, you know,
• 18:33
  let it be archbish high school or uh in
• 18:36
  terms of province Christian high school.
• 18:39
  uh would you be willing to serve as the
• 18:42
  executive director head of school uh for
• 18:44
  this for the for Marin University
• 18:46
  Propriatory School. So yeah, that's the
• 18:48
  current journey. They've been doing it
• 18:50
  for a little over a little over two
• 18:51
  years. So a little over two years. It's
• 18:53
  a cool school. It's a cool premise, but
• 18:56
  it'd be great. I'm sure there's a lot of
• 18:57
  folks that don't know much about it.
• 18:59
  >> So I mean it'd be great to learn who you
• 19:01
  serving, what do you guys do, what's
• 19:02
  different, right?
• 19:03
  >> Yeah. uh it is it is as as you think
• 19:07
  about technology and I think co really
• 19:10
  hit the accelerator on how technology
• 19:13
  was going to play a more impactful role
• 19:15
  in education. Uh there's been quite a
• 19:18
  bit of transformation as we all know if
• 19:19
  you're watching in the news there's been
• 19:20
  quite a bit of transformation at the
• 19:22
  collegiate level
• 19:24
  >> of uh what types of programs are
• 19:27
  students involved in what's the role AI
• 19:29
  is going to serve currently as well as
• 19:31
  what it will serve in the future. Yep.
• 19:33
  And so Mary University set up this
• 19:36
  school in collaboration with a company
• 19:38
  called K12. Okay.
• 19:39
  >> Uh that allows for students to
• 19:43
  participate in their school experience
• 19:45
  in a live virtual setting as well as
• 19:47
  some asynchronous opportunities as well.
• 19:50
  Asynchronous being where you're not in a
• 19:52
  live virt like Zoom type experience
• 19:55
  where you're just doing it uh you know
• 19:57
  at your own pace. Many of the
• 19:59
  assignments are like that. Similar when
• 20:00
  we go home and do homework of course.
• 20:02
  All right. Right. Uh but it's been a
• 20:04
  great experience for students because as
• 20:07
  we all know, you've got a few kids, I
• 20:09
  got a couple and they're all different.
• 20:11
  >> Everybody's different.
• 20:12
  >> Everybody's different. And so what might
• 20:14
  be an excellent learning experience or
• 20:17
  environment for one of your children,
• 20:19
  another one might be more appropriate or
• 20:21
  better fit for them uh at a different
• 20:24
  school or a different types of
• 20:25
  educational formats.
• 20:26
  >> Sorry. So, this allows for, in fact, I
• 20:29
  talked to a a mom literally from my
• 20:31
  office all the way until I walked into
• 20:33
  your building for about 35 minutes.
• 20:35
  >> No chaos.
• 20:36
  >> She was asking about um you know, this
• 20:39
  explaining her her daughter's needs and
• 20:42
  interests and asking about the
• 20:44
  possibility of them considering Mary
• 20:47
  University Preparatory School because of
• 20:49
  its virtual setting and a few new
• 20:50
  uniquenesses that would benefit the
• 20:52
  students.
• 20:53
  >> Yeah. And it's virtual. So the kids are
• 20:55
  obviously can be in Indianapolis, but
• 20:57
  they also could be anywhere.
• 20:59
  >> They So we have students literally we
• 21:01
  have students Idaho. We have students in
• 21:04
  there Florida, New York, you know,
• 21:07
  they're they're scattered about. We have
• 21:09
  students when you're when you think
• 21:10
  about what students are coming to our
• 21:12
  school. We have students that are
• 21:13
  professional actors.
• 21:15
  >> Yeah. See, that was interesting. Right.
• 21:16
  So people that are working during the
• 21:18
  day, they need to do school at night
• 21:19
  >> or a variety of it where they need some
• 21:21
  flexibility in there. Uh because one
• 21:24
  nice thing about a a Zoom meeting, as
• 21:26
  you know, you can record those.
• 21:28
  >> Absolutely.
• 21:28
  >> And so you can record every single live
• 21:31
  class session. So, if a student, we've
• 21:33
  got professional bull rider, if a
• 21:34
  student's at a professional bull riding
• 21:36
  competition and he uh isn't going to be
• 21:40
  able to make class on that particular
• 21:42
  day, you know, he notifies the teacher
• 21:44
  what he's doing, but he watches those in
• 21:46
  the evening, goes in, completes those
• 21:48
  assignments or assessments, may do it on
• 21:50
  the weekend. But, uh, you know, it it
• 21:53
  provides the flexibility that that
• 21:55
  particular student might need. So we do
• 21:57
  have you know as I shared we have
• 21:59
  professionals that are already though
• 22:01
  they're children they're already into
• 22:03
  their professional careers.
• 22:04
  >> Yeah.
• 22:05
  >> Uh we also have you know students that u
• 22:08
  may need the flexibility due to medical
• 22:12
  purposes.
• 22:13
  >> Uh truth be told uh you know
• 22:15
  >> it just isn't going to work. the amount
• 22:17
  of time that they need to receive
• 22:20
  medical attention uh or medical support
• 22:24
  uh just doesn't necessarily complement
• 22:26
  your traditional school setting. uh
• 22:28
  other students uh you have those that um
• 22:31
  you know maybe it was a little bit uh
• 22:34
  you know we hear about the term bullying
• 22:35
  and those such things maybe it just
• 22:37
  wasn't uh the right fit or environment
• 22:40
  for them and so this allows them to
• 22:43
  still engage in it like you and I are
• 22:45
  actively but you're doing it through a
• 22:46
  screen but some of those elements that
• 22:49
  made them uncomfortable possibly in
• 22:51
  school are pretty much removed because
• 22:54
  now you're you're engaged with you know
• 22:56
  call it uh 15 different students or 10
• 22:59
  different students in your class and
• 23:00
  everyone's on the screen.
• 23:02
  >> Yeah.
• 23:02
  >> Using chat, using verbal, you know,
• 23:04
  enjoying it, but it's it it does remove
• 23:06
  some of those
• 23:08
  >> particulates that may cause a bit of
• 23:11
  tension for a student. So, you know, we
• 23:13
  have students who do that, but then we
• 23:14
  also have students that, you know, in
• 23:16
  high school, uh, you know, maybe they've
• 23:19
  really enjoyed the traditional learning
• 23:22
  experience, but they're kind of looking
• 23:23
  for something different. They're looking
• 23:25
  for a bit more flexibility and they want
• 23:28
  to take advantage of the relationship
• 23:30
  between obviously we're Mary University
• 23:32
  preparatory school so you can probably
• 23:34
  guess that our juniors and seniors
• 23:36
  >> have a plethora of offerings. Yep. That
• 23:38
  they can take in a virtual capacity
• 23:40
  through what I call a high flex room.
• 23:43
  >> So your freshman or your sophomores that
• 23:45
  are at Mary University Mary University
• 23:47
  St. Joe's which is the associates degree
• 23:49
  program at Mary University. our students
• 23:52
  through these flex classrooms. You think
• 23:54
  you got monitors on the wall as you got,
• 23:56
  you know, your conference systems where
• 23:58
  they can then participate virtually from
• 24:01
  New York
• 24:02
  >> or from Evansville or from Indianapolis
• 24:05
  or from, you know, Fort Wayne where they
• 24:07
  can participate in those classes live.
• 24:10
  Yeah.
• 24:11
  >> But yet they're earning college credits.
• 24:13
  So, you know, all of our seniors have
• 24:15
  earned uh college credits through
• 24:17
  participation in these courses. In fact,
• 24:19
  I would say if you're going to say
• 24:21
  looking at your juniors and seniors,
• 24:22
  especially senior, almost all their
• 24:24
  classes, no kidding,
• 24:26
  >> are college courses.
• 24:27
  >> That's true.
• 24:28
  >> And then junior year, they're getting
• 24:29
  their toes wet into it and taking a few
• 24:32
  classes as well. So, Marian Universities
• 24:34
  is called their advanced study program.
• 24:36
  >> Okay.
• 24:37
  >> Uh it allows students to take, if memory
• 24:40
  serves me correctly, you know, about a
• 24:41
  dozen college courses while they're in
• 24:43
  high school.
• 24:43
  >> No kidding.
• 24:44
  >> That's terrific. That's awesome. I mean,
• 24:46
  it's a great cost, too.
• 24:47
  >> Yeah. Of course, of course. great cost,
• 24:49
  right? So, it's a good value for the
• 24:51
  kids and it's a great opportunity. Like
• 24:52
  you said, I've got five kids
• 24:54
  >> and sometimes going through Westfield
• 24:56
  schools was terrific.
• 24:58
  >> My oldest daughter was a professional
• 24:59
  ballerina. She went to school online.
• 25:01
  She did stuff at night. She would have
• 25:04
  she would have been a per perfect fit,
• 25:05
  right? And so the but education can be
• 25:08
  can meet people where they are, right?
• 25:11
  And that's what is really cool about
• 25:12
  what you guys are doing. the community,
• 25:15
  how does the community like factor in or
• 25:18
  how do they get involved with the school
• 25:19
  or what would you want the community to
• 25:21
  know? Obviously, we understand maybe how
• 25:23
  you're dueling school, but are there
• 25:25
  ways the community can get involved too?
• 25:27
  >> You know, there is uh what I will share
• 25:29
  with you is, you know, when you think
• 25:30
  about just the community of the
• 25:31
  experience for the student. Yep. And so
• 25:33
  we do a few different things. We we have
• 25:36
  assemblies. They're obviously live
• 25:37
  virtual assemblies. you know, we're
• 25:39
  proud to be we're part of Mary
• 25:40
  University, but we're also part of the
• 25:42
  arch dascese of Indianapolis Catholic
• 25:44
  School. So, we're an independent school
• 25:46
  uh similar to that of when I was with
• 25:48
  Province Christian A High School as an
• 25:50
  independent school is an independent
• 25:51
  school.
• 25:52
  >> And so, it's it's great because it does
• 25:55
  allow for us to continue or to support
• 25:58
  that that spiritual development of
• 26:00
  students.
• 26:01
  >> You know, students are involved in
• 26:02
  religion classes, but it's it's much
• 26:04
  more than that. And so we have prayer
• 26:07
  sessions, we have different assemblies
• 26:08
  with different focus areas. Obviously,
• 26:10
  we just had Holy Week last week. So,
• 26:12
  there's a number of opportunities for
• 26:14
  our students to be involved. And what's
• 26:17
  nice about that is we also uh when we're
• 26:21
  teaching our live virtual classes, we
• 26:23
  intentionally other than elementary
• 26:25
  school because we're focusing on that
• 26:27
  development of the reading and writing
• 26:28
  and phonics and math skills. But on
• 26:31
  Wednesdays, we don't have we don't host
• 26:33
  live virtual classes. Okay.
• 26:35
  >> Because we're providing individualized
• 26:37
  small groupoup support for students by
• 26:39
  our teachers. Yeah. Okay. As well as in
• 26:41
  some cases individual support just
• 26:43
  one-on-one with students as well. So we
• 26:45
  reserve that day to do that. So there's
• 26:47
  a variety of different ways students get
• 26:49
  involved.
• 26:50
  >> We also offer what's called hybrid
• 26:53
  learning experiences where kids come on
• 26:55
  American University's campus. I mean
• 26:56
  you've got an engineering school,
• 26:58
  medical school, you got nursing school,
• 27:00
  business school. So they get to engage
• 27:03
  doing labs and for let it be engineering
• 27:05
  labs or science labs or being able to
• 27:08
  work with the these mannequins are
• 27:10
  incredible that they utilize
• 27:11
  >> in medical schools and nursing schools.
• 27:13
  I you know a they cost like six digits
• 27:15
  plus what they sure do. So we provide
• 27:18
  them opportunities to come on campus.
• 27:20
  Now if you're living in New York uh you
• 27:23
  may or may not take advantage. We've had
• 27:25
  folks fly from Houston. We've had folks
• 27:26
  fly up from Florida. No kid, participate
• 27:29
  in them because kids want to meet their
• 27:31
  classmates. Yeah, sure. They want to
• 27:32
  meet their teachers, but they also get
• 27:34
  to have a really cool experience as
• 27:35
  well. So, we do that as well. So, that's
• 27:37
  a little bit about the the community of
• 27:40
  for what the students experience.
• 27:41
  >> Yeah, sure.
• 27:42
  >> For folks that want to get involved uh
• 27:44
  with us, number one, we are beginning to
• 27:47
  implement uh in collaboration with Mary
• 27:49
  University St. Joe some virtual
• 27:50
  internships.
• 27:52
  >> Okay. And so for seniors um soon to
• 27:54
  probably years down the road, I say
• 27:56
  years, probably a year down the road,
• 27:58
  juniors where they can participate in
• 28:01
  internships where they can do it
• 28:02
  virtually because if you think about it,
• 28:04
  you know, every decentsized company that
• 28:06
  you look up, there's a few remote jobs y
• 28:09
  >> that are available. Sure. And so we're
• 28:11
  trying to groom students that really
• 28:12
  feel good about this experience. Maybe
• 28:14
  that's something that they would like to
• 28:15
  experience and have exposure to
• 28:18
  industry. So how can you get involved?
• 28:20
  you know, you could possibly be involved
• 28:22
  in an internship experience such as that
• 28:24
  nature.
• 28:24
  >> Okay.
• 28:25
  >> Um, you know, a lot of the families that
• 28:27
  we serve, you know, I chatted a little
• 28:29
  bit about medical, which is sure good
• 28:31
  number of students. Uh, you know,
• 28:34
  they're, you know, parent when there's
• 28:37
  medical, a lot of your investment goes
• 28:39
  to the well-written of your child. So
• 28:41
  being able to in the state of Indiana,
• 28:43
  it's called scholarship granting
• 28:45
  organizations where you could donate,
• 28:47
  you know, you know, I'll just use the
• 28:49
  example, you can donate a $1,000, but
• 28:50
  you you get a a 50% state tax credit.
• 28:54
  >> Okay?
• 28:54
  >> And so folks can support that way
• 28:56
  because we do have uh students. We have
• 28:59
  the voucher, which is great. Uh and it
• 29:01
  covers a really good portion of the
• 29:04
  school, but a lot of families can't
• 29:05
  cover the remainder. Yeah. Uh, and some
• 29:08
  families join us after the deadline,
• 29:11
  basically end of August or in, you know,
• 29:13
  middle of January, end of January, where
• 29:15
  they're like, "Oh my goodness, I really
• 29:16
  need this." And I talked a little bit
• 29:18
  about students maybe being uncomfortable
• 29:21
  >> in an inerson school. That sometimes
• 29:23
  isn't realized over summer. It's
• 29:25
  realized in September.
• 29:26
  >> Yeah. Okay.
• 29:27
  >> And so, how do we help those families
• 29:29
  that couldn't otherwise afford it? So,
• 29:31
  you know, providing support towards that
• 29:34
  uh scholarship grants kind of an
• 29:36
  organization is huge. And again, nice
• 29:38
  thing is you get a 50% state tax credit.
• 29:41
  >> Yeah. I mean, you do something good for
• 29:42
  other family and for a kid. Where would
• 29:44
  folks go to be able to find out more
• 29:46
  about that if they wanted to get
• 29:47
  involved?
• 29:48
  >> Absolutely. You know, I would encourage
• 29:50
  because guess you, if you're like me,
• 29:52
  you probably have one or two additional
• 29:53
  questions that you want to learn. So, so
• 29:55
  go on our website, Mary University
• 29:57
  Piratory School. Okay. And uh you know,
• 29:59
  look me up. Uh my my number's right
• 30:01
  there. You're welcome to give me a call.
• 30:03
  Uh you know, I'm sure here 3175565331.
• 30:08
  But uh you know, give me a call. Love to
• 30:10
  chat with you about the impact you'd
• 30:12
  like to have. Yeah, it might be as I
• 30:14
  shared it might be helping out in terms
• 30:16
  of a virtual experience or in terms of
• 30:19
  internship or might be helping some of
• 30:20
  the families that are feeling a little
• 30:22
  oppressed due to a variety of factors in
• 30:25
  the financial capacity. It's awesome.
• 30:27
  So, we've talked a lot about Mar
• 30:29
  University, the preparatory school, but
• 30:31
  we also we've touched a little bit on
• 30:33
  how the community could help the school,
• 30:35
  but I know you personally do a lot in
• 30:37
  the community. And so, I'm I'm curious
• 30:40
  nonprofits and people that maybe you're
• 30:42
  working with outside of the school that
• 30:44
  you're doing some things with Alpen
• 30:46
  also.
• 30:46
  >> Absolutely. Well, uh, you know, I was
• 30:48
  introduced about, uh, almost 5 years
• 30:51
  ago, uh, to a program where, uh, you you
• 30:54
  think about what's happening, you know,
• 30:57
  in the United States, but globally as
• 30:58
  well. Uh, one thing, you know, from
• 31:01
  natural disasters or man-made disasters,
• 31:04
  you know, war, whatever it may be, uh,
• 31:07
  one thing that we all need, and you
• 31:08
  think about Maslo's law of hierarchy,
• 31:11
  what you have to have those basic
• 31:12
  necessities to be able to focus on
• 31:14
  school and develop skill sets. And so
• 31:16
  one thing that we all need within a
• 31:18
  relatively short period of time is
• 31:20
  drinkable water. That's right. And so
• 31:22
  I've been involved with an organization
• 31:24
  called Wet the World. It's water
• 31:26
  education transformation the world uh
• 31:29
  which collaborates also been engaged in
• 31:31
  and supporting worldwide water group and
• 31:34
  worldwide water group uh has a product
• 31:37
  called the solar bag and it's really
• 31:39
  cool uh because it doesn't use you know
• 31:42
  I'm a you know I love camping and so
• 31:44
  back in the day when you were camping
• 31:46
  you bring these iodine packets and you
• 31:48
  put them in the water and so forth
• 31:49
  because you wanted to become drinkable
• 31:51
  because you couldn't you know if you're
• 31:53
  on a fiveday camping trip you're not
• 31:54
  going to to carry that much water.
• 31:56
  >> Yep.
• 31:56
  >> And so in this scenario, it's a bag that
• 31:59
  holds about three and a half lers of
• 32:01
  water and it uses uh it uses the s uses
• 32:05
  solar energy uh has a patented filter
• 32:08
  that provides photosynthesis through
• 32:10
  photosynthesis. It basically eliminates
• 32:13
  about 99% of all the impure particullet
• 32:17
  that we have in the water. And so the
• 32:20
  goal is if you think about, you know,
• 32:22
  you look at uh warn torn nations or
• 32:25
  nations that get hit by hurricanes, you
• 32:26
  think about I'll never forget I was
• 32:28
  watching what happened in Nashville.
• 32:30
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Right.
• 32:30
  >> And they said, "Hey, we need about and
• 32:33
  I'll never forget they were they said we
• 32:34
  need about 150,000 bottles of water here
• 32:37
  in the next, you know, x number of
• 32:39
  days." And so this product is one that
• 32:42
  we're really trying to get to those
• 32:44
  people that need it. Um and including in
• 32:48
  that is that education piece of you know
• 32:51
  why is it important to drink clean water
• 32:53
  or to pursue it as to the best of your
• 32:56
  ability because of the diseases
• 32:58
  >> the waterborn diseases. Yeah. Sure. You
• 33:00
  can obviously contract from drinking in
• 33:04
  you know water that isn't clean.
• 33:06
  >> Yep.
• 33:06
  >> And so I've been involved with that for
• 33:08
  about five years. uh we you know the not
• 33:11
  for-p profofit what the world has been
• 33:13
  going on for a couple of years and we're
• 33:15
  really just looking for folks that have
• 33:19
  the heart uh to be able to support uh
• 33:22
  getting these bags to the people that
• 33:24
  need them most to give you an idea. have
• 33:25
  had great conversations with Catholic
• 33:27
  Charities
• 33:28
  >> uh you know from the state from I'm
• 33:31
  engaged right now with the uh the
• 33:33
  Salvation Army uh we've worked with uh
• 33:37
  you know if you think about the
• 33:38
  different organizations out there but
• 33:40
  the Red Cross in Mexico different
• 33:42
  organizations that are similar to that
• 33:45
  uh world world health organizations
• 33:48
  uh you know because this has been tested
• 33:50
  by the world health and it's just how
• 33:52
  can we provide them something because
• 33:54
  you can reuse this bag up to 500 times.
• 33:58
  No kidding. Yeah.
• 33:59
  >> And it's really easy to transport and
• 34:02
  just hang it out. You know, on a cloudy
• 34:03
  day, it takes a little bit longer. Yeah.
• 34:05
  But on a sunny day,
• 34:07
  >> pretty quick within, you know, call it
• 34:08
  a, you know, about an 180 minutes, give
• 34:11
  or take. But, you know, you could
• 34:12
  utilize that bag three times in a given
• 34:15
  day in the house. Somewhere to the
• 34:17
  ballpark of 10 gallons of water.
• 34:19
  >> Yeah. So, it's it's it's something
• 34:21
  personal that I'm passionate about
• 34:23
  because I do know, you know, if you
• 34:25
  don't have the basic necessities, you're
• 34:27
  not going to be able to pursue
• 34:28
  education, course, and you're not going
• 34:30
  to be able to pursue your dreams. And
• 34:32
  and so, it's uh if folks are interested
• 34:35
  in supporting that, and you can reach
• 34:36
  out to me once again on that as well.
• 34:38
  But it's um it's a really it's a really
• 34:41
  great mission of helping those that are
• 34:44
  probably in a very desperate situation.
• 34:47
  Yeah. Yeah. You know, I've talked about
• 34:49
  this before, but it it's water, food,
• 34:52
  right? Basic necessities. If we get that
• 34:54
  stuff taken care of, so we fill their
• 34:56
  tummy, and we make sure that they're
• 34:57
  hydrated, there's an opportunity for
• 34:59
  them to learn. It's an opportunity for
• 35:00
  them to go to school, opportunity for
• 35:01
  them to get a job.
• 35:02
  >> I mean, so whether it's it's it's wet
• 35:05
  wet the world,
• 35:05
  >> wet the world.
• 35:06
  >> Wet the world. And there's a lot of
• 35:08
  different water organizations out there,
• 35:10
  but they're all helping fight that that,
• 35:13
  you know, need for just the basic thing
• 35:15
  of just water thing. We take so much
• 35:17
  granted for where you and I live here in
• 35:19
  in Indianapolis. For sure. But being
• 35:22
  able to do that, it actually goes into
• 35:24
  what your mission is, which is
• 35:26
  education. Yes. Right. But you can't
• 35:27
  educate if you can't get uh people in
• 35:29
  the room or can't get people online.
• 35:31
  >> Absolutely. Educating. Right.
• 35:32
  >> You you think about it in, you know, you
• 35:34
  have different environments in different
• 35:36
  countries and different economic
• 35:38
  dispositions. But if you think if a
• 35:40
  child has to hike to a well system
• 35:45
  >> and they're hiking, you know, two hours
• 35:47
  there, right,
• 35:48
  >> and they're bringing water back in two
• 35:50
  hours back. Well, in many cases, it ends
• 35:53
  up being the girls that do that,
• 35:55
  >> especially subsahara Africa. It's
• 35:57
  usually the young females
• 35:59
  >> that are requested to do it. So, they
• 36:00
  can't go to school.
• 36:01
  >> So, they don't get to go to school.
• 36:02
  >> Yep.
• 36:02
  >> And so, you know, it's it's those type
• 36:04
  of factors. or if you happen to be in a
• 36:07
  you know war torn nation uh you know you
• 36:10
  know as they begin to rebuild and and
• 36:13
  recover you know you got to have water
• 36:15
  >> I mean it is really the basic as we all
• 36:17
  know what you got three days and after
• 36:19
  that you're done you're done and so it's
• 36:21
  it's it's just something that I'm
• 36:23
  personally passionate about being able
• 36:25
  to you know again when you think about
• 36:26
  faith you think about love God with all
• 36:28
  your mind heart soul
• 36:29
  >> and love your neighbor as yourself and
• 36:31
  so our neighbors are all across this
• 36:33
  planet and how can we help those
• 36:35
  individuals. So, it's it's a great it's
• 36:37
  something I do outside of outside of
• 36:39
  school, outside of work, not to worry,
• 36:40
  Mary University, but it is something
• 36:42
  that that I'm passionate about and and
• 36:44
  it's an important thing to try to help
• 36:45
  people with.
• 36:46
  >> Yeah, I agree 100%. And I normally don't
• 36:48
  go through this, but for the folks that
• 36:49
  watch and we've got books all over the
• 36:51
  place and these are all the
• 36:52
  recommendations from our guests, right?
• 36:55
  And so, we tried to think about what we
• 36:57
  could give people as a nice gift to say
• 36:59
  thank you. We came up with nothing.
• 37:00
  >> And so, but we said, how about if we ask
• 37:02
  you about your favorite book?
• 37:03
  >> Sure. It's been fun to get people's
• 37:05
  thoughts on their favorite books and
• 37:06
  we've been buying them and putting them
• 37:08
  on the shelves and it's been growing.
• 37:09
  Yeah. And yours is over there that hat.
• 37:12
  So, that one actually I didn't buy. That
• 37:14
  one you brought in and so thank you for
• 37:16
  bringing that in.
• 37:17
  >> Absolutely. The good guide book for
• 37:18
  folks out there to be able to take a
• 37:20
  look at. I'm sure there's something
• 37:21
  interesting for everybody.
• 37:22
  >> Absolutely. So, the book's called Jesus
• 37:24
  Calling and it's just uh some
• 37:26
  meditation, some prayers uh each and
• 37:28
  every day. Uh, ironically, every time I
• 37:30
  read it each morning, uh, it seems like
• 37:33
  85 to 90% of the time the prayer on that
• 37:36
  particular day applies exactly to my
• 37:38
  morning journey and probably day
• 37:40
  journey. So, uh, you know, it's
• 37:43
  something that I I provide to friends as
• 37:45
  well as family. And so, I just, you
• 37:47
  know, something that I thought would be
• 37:49
  a great addition to your collection.
• 37:50
  Works out in this room, I think, for
• 37:52
  sure. Thank you. And so, before we get
• 37:53
  to our last segment, which is what's
• 37:55
  fun.
• 37:55
  >> What's fun, right? Before we get into
• 37:57
  that, let's just walk through. Right.
• 37:58
  So, you know, Indianapolis out to
• 38:01
  Colorado, you know, in Bloomington to
• 38:04
  Colorado to Northern California to
• 38:06
  Colorado,
• 38:07
  >> meet a girl in Northern California, get
• 38:09
  her to move here, by the way. Great
• 38:10
  sales job.
• 38:11
  >> Yeah, we started talking about her that
• 38:12
  today.
• 38:13
  >> Probably because you got the job in
• 38:15
  commercial sales, but your best sale is
• 38:16
  probably get her to move.
• 38:18
  >> Possibly. Possibly. Yeah, she's a she's
• 38:20
  a really good trooper.
• 38:21
  >> Yeah, I I believe that. Couple of kids
• 38:24
  along the way, right? So, but what a
• 38:25
  what a great uh story and and it's
• 38:28
  terrific to hear kind of all the way
• 38:30
  back in the high school days. Your dad's
• 38:32
  saying, "Hey, why don't you think about
• 38:34
  business? It'll translate to a lot of
• 38:36
  different things."
• 38:37
  >> You get to Northern California and you
• 38:40
  get to Colorado, then they're looking
• 38:41
  for someone to be this unicorn, has a
• 38:46
  business background, see, talk with
• 38:48
  CEOs, led a school, been a teacher,
• 38:51
  which isn't that common.
• 38:52
  >> Not that common. No, I would agree. I
• 38:54
  think maybe you're the only one I know.
• 38:55
  >> There's a few others, but there are a
• 38:57
  few in far. And so I was thinking I
• 38:59
  don't know anybody else or other than
• 39:00
  Joe if that category. So really cool
• 39:02
  career. Terrific what you're doing and
• 39:04
  helping serve the the kids and their
• 39:06
  families. Yeah. Marian University
• 39:08
  Preparatory School. So outside of that
• 39:10
  and outside of really helping people
• 39:12
  with something just as basic as water
• 39:15
  with Wet the World, what's fun for you
• 39:17
  and your family? you know, um has a
• 39:19
  little bit to do with where I lived, but
• 39:22
  also uh my folks. And so long ago, my
• 39:25
  folks love going up to Michigan,
• 39:28
  >> okay,
• 39:28
  >> going snow skiing. And then, uh I
• 39:31
  remember one time they hopped in the
• 39:33
  van, you know, I'm the last of five
• 39:35
  kids, so you've got five children. We
• 39:36
  hopped in the van. We made that drive
• 39:38
  all the way out to Colorado. And uh long
• 39:41
  drive. And I just remember uh after that
• 39:44
  experience, it really did. You're just
• 39:45
  in a wow experience. That was the first
• 39:47
  time I'd ever seen the mountains.
• 39:48
  >> Okay.
• 39:49
  >> You know, I was probably I think I was
• 39:50
  like eight years old or nine years old
• 39:52
  or something like that. Uh and then my
• 39:54
  dad the next shoe took us back to
• 39:55
  Michigan and love Michigan, but I
• 39:59
  remember story goes is my mom said,
• 40:01
  >> "Well,
• 40:04
  you bother my dad day in day out about
• 40:07
  go back to Colorado." So, one of the
• 40:08
  things we love doing as a family is
• 40:11
  going into the mountains.
• 40:12
  >> Yeah.
• 40:13
  >> Snow skiing is one of my favorite
• 40:15
  sports. My son really enjoys it. My
• 40:16
  daughter's really good at it. Um like my
• 40:18
  wife and I's third date was snow skiing.
• 40:20
  >> Okay. In the Sierra Mountains in Lake
• 40:22
  Tahoe. And so that's uh the adventure of
• 40:26
  visiting new places. Yeah. Seeing new
• 40:28
  places or going back to some of your old
• 40:30
  favorites. Uh if you haven't seen Lake
• 40:32
  Tahoe, strongly encourage. It's an
• 40:33
  incredibly beautiful place. Uh but
• 40:35
  really travel. But then being out in
• 40:38
  nature. Okay. Just love, you know,
• 40:41
  Indianapolis. You know, a few buddies we
• 40:43
  go canoeing down White River. Oh yeah,
• 40:45
  sure. Frequently, a couple times a year
• 40:47
  we get together. Uh hiking trips down to
• 40:50
  Lake Monroe, uh overnight camping trips
• 40:53
  and so really enjoy doing that. But uh
• 40:56
  you know, it's just really enjoying, you
• 40:58
  know, God's canvas. I just mother nature
• 41:01
  is so beautiful. I thoroughly enjoy it.
• 41:04
  And I think my parents rubbed off on me
• 41:07
  and I think I've rubbed off a little bit
• 41:08
  on her on my kids as well. My wife has
• 41:10
  rubbed off on me definitely and she's
• 41:12
  rubbed off on the kids because she
• 41:14
  really enjoys the beauty of new places,
• 41:16
  new nature. So travel is something we
• 41:19
  really enjoy. Uh but also just enjoying
• 41:22
  what we have right here in our backyard.
• 41:23
  >> Sure.
• 41:24
  >> Yeah. So So that's some of the fun
• 41:26
  stuff. That's all that I love to do.
• 41:28
  Joe, thank you.
• 41:29
  >> Yeah.
• 41:30
  >> Couple of things. Thank you for sharing
• 41:33
  your story with us.
• 41:34
  >> Oh my gosh, it's a pleasure. Thanks for
• 41:35
  having me. Thank you for helping the
• 41:37
  kids and their families university
• 41:39
  prepar school and thank you for what
• 41:41
  you're doing at the world.
• 41:42
  >> I appreciate appreciate you being on.
• 41:44
  >> Oh, thank you so much for having me and
• 41:45
  it's always a pleasure to see you and I
• 41:48
  looking forward to the next time.
• 41:49
  >> Awesome. Thanks, man. All right.