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Cardinals Take Series Opener in San Diego · Kenny Wallace Media

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I know they lost the series three one to the to the Doyers,
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but I actually I left that series surprisingly with a more
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positive outlook than when the series started.
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And remember I said 83 wins and I said they were going to lose
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the series three one and they did.
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However, I think they should have split that series.
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They also now have seven dudes on the injured list.
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So to go against the big bad Dodgers, you should have split
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with seven dudes out. I actually said, you know what,
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this team's decent, Which And then they go and they beat the
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Padres. All I'm saying is I think
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there's still a a big block of Cardinal Nation that thinks this
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team is going to suck. And I I don't think that's the
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case. I don't know if they're going to
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be elite, but I think they're going to be pretty good.
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That offense yesterday, dude, they got a lot of guys that can
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do damage. They have other guys who are on
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the injured list coming back. It's going to make that team
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even deeper. There's a lot of, there's a lot
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of dudes in that lineup get. Newt back Walker had a nice
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catch in the outfielder. Oh my God, it was awesome.
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That was a thing of beauty #9 on the top 10 for a Sports Center?
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I worry. About a big body like that,
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sprawling, laying out, laying out.
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Injuring other players on the team.
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Oh, that's another. I mean, like, he's a big dude.
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When you run that fast and you extend your arm and you fall,
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that's where you sub blocks your shoulder.
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Your shoulder pops out like that.
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Oh yeah, yeah. Catch an AC joint or something
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like that. Yeah, that's usually your AC
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joints right here. That's usually like falling into
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the wall and then it it bruises so bad you cannot you got dead
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arm. Your AC joint, man.
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You hit that thing, dude, it it's your whole side of your
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body's numb. You can't move.
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It hurts like hell. The Cardinals did everything
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right yesterday, though. They did, they entered the game.
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You know, I told you guys yesterday, I don't care what
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they do against the Phillies, Braves, Dodgers, cause those are
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the real teams in the National League.
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I think the Cardinals actually profile very similarly to the
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Padres. They have a lot of talent in
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their lineup. It's very aesthetic to look at
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and then the pitching is shot and so and you dodged Dylan's
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season this series, which is cool, But for the Kyle Gibson to
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go 7 innings, you set the tone. You scored up three runs.
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I think in the first inning you showed some power with Wilson
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Contreras. Brendan Donovan even got in on
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the extra home run later in the game.
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He had a couple hits. Yeah, I think maybe even three
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he. Was going for the.
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Cycle something like that, but with Kyle Gibson going seven
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strong, because we were talking about, Oh my gosh, we got
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bullpen issues on day four. We're day four into this thing.
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We already got bullpen issues. For him to set the tone, we're
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just got to get to Friday. Friday's the off day.
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You got 4, getting one, now three.
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But for him to go 7, everything's going to reset with
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the bullpen on Friday. When everybody gets the day off,
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the pitching's going to be fine. Kyle Gibson going seven strong
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to kind of give the bullpen a little bit of a break that that
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was really, really good. Seven strong.
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Couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe.
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Especially hot off of Lance Lynn dealing in Los Angeles.
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You know what maybe this offseason they said about your
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side, young players. They might have.
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Now hold on, though. Probably not to be fair.
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You know, I love Lance Lynn. It was 4 innings.
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Rain delay, though. Rain delay, lot of traffic, lot
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of traffic. He got out, yeah, worked out of
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jams. So I'm giving him all the all
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the credit and respect in the world.
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It was 4 innings. I I'm.
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Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't that.
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Great. So I.
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I was not that impressed. I I was just.
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I did a gym thing. You said dealing to me, dealing.
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You got to go at least six. I think I know well, you know
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what there was there was a. Weird.
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I intentionally did not say shove.
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There was a weird weather situation.
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He would have won at least five or six.
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I'm I'd be more concerned, not just because of the first turn
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through, but it'll be interesting to see what Miles
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Michaels does. Zach Thompson, every mistake was
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hit out of the ballpark the other day.
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He can be better than that. I don't know what his ceiling is
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as a starter right now. I don't know how many starts
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he's going to get. He may only get a couple more
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when Sonny Gray comes back. Who was the daddy Padres pitcher
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last night, and was he any good? First of all.
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I know he got lit up, but is he supposed?
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To be good. I just love the fact that he
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throws A knuckleball, but he throws it.
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What was it 27% of the time? Like, that's pretty amazing.
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He's a knuckleball pitcher, but he's not Tim Wakefield.
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He doesn't throw the knuckleball 8590% of the time.
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He throws A knuckleball. The graphic when I was watching
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in beginning, I believe 27% of the time he has a couple
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different variations of fastballs.
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You know, guys will throw a cutter and A2 seamer or whatever
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it is, but that's kind of interesting.
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Imagine if you're facing a pitcher and 25% of the time
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you're going to get a knuckleball.
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Now he was, he was throwing 92 with the fastball.
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I just think that's a very interesting profile for a guy
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you never you never really see a guy like.
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That I saw as a pitcher when you were a kid.
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Are you like I like this? Knuckleball thing.
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Everybody. Everybody cool.
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You know anybody that plays baseball as you're playing catch
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your buddy. You always you always try the
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knuckleball and just. Hold it like this and throw it
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like that and I mean. On every on every team, there's
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a dude who has their playing catch.
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You're like, damn, this dude's got a crazy knuckleball when he
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just plays around with it. So if you could have that in
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your arsenal and you could throw 93 miles an hour like you,
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you're different. Well, yeah.
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Can you think of anybody that does that?
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No. That's why it was so interesting
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to me. You either have guys who throw
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it once a season, right? Or you have guys who throw it
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basically every pitch. RA Dickey for my generation.
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RA Dickey, Yeah, he's probably going to throw it 90% of the
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time. Maybe you have one little
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breaking ball that you just show.
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Maybe you have a fastball just to trick people.
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But the Tim Wakefields of the world, the RA Dickeys of the
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world, those guys throw the knuckleball 90 whatever percent
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of the time. How good was Tim Wakefield?
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He was. I mean, he had a long career.
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He pitched and he pitched for 1517 years between.
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Pittsburgh and Boston, yeah. Let's look it up. 90s into.
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I remember playing him on a video game.
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Did he just pass? Yeah, And did his wife also
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pass? He's that.
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Part I don't know. He's not that.
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He's not that old, late in the 90s.
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He's like 50. I think he was battling
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something. Cancer of some sort.
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Silently. What was the story?
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Excuse me? The story, hey, sorry, I think
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the story was that Curt Schilling broke the story when
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he wasn't supposed to or something on a podcast, and then
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people came after him for that. But we had Tim Wakefield started
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his career 92, ended it in 11. He ended his career.
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God, he ended his career 44 years old. 2.
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Hundred wins on the butt. He made some money.
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Here's the story. Yeah, Tim Wakefield's widow.
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Stacy dies five months after the Boston Red Sox pitcher.
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How did she die? That's horrible.
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I don't know if I want to know. You know, let's see.
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Hmm, I'm looking. OK, get him in.
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Yeah, I know. Text lines blowing up.
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I'll get to all. Y'all.
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We're getting there. We're getting there 9:00 hour.
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We're breaking things down. Cardinals to talk about for a
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second. But one more thought, because I
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did see a couple people complaining.
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And you know, people are always going to complain on social
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media, even when things go well. Well, they bitching about.
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They were complaining that the Cardinals left 12 on base, and
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that is a very high number. Where's my response to you?
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If you get 14 hits, it's inevitable that the left on base
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total is going to be high. Not everybody can get knocked
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in. So if you're getting 14 hits,
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you got a ton of traffic on the base pads.
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The innings that end at some point is 12 a little bit high,
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yes, but that's still kind of just inevitable with the way
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that you were knocking the ball around.
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So I don't even think it was that big of a deal.
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I'm serious. I'm praising the Cardinals
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because that was a that was game one you that you set the tone in
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the early stages. I like to kind of
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compartmentalize and just view things series by series, because
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we can't do playoff talk after every single game on game five,
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no. We can't do that.
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Can't do it. Cool.
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So I'm not interested in that you set the tone for this
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series. You can only worry about the the
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uniform across from you right now.
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That's right. You know what, Your bullpen is
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in a better position for the next two days and there's and
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you have opening day here on Thursday.
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It's going to be a hell of a day.
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This show is going to be down at Billy's on Broadway.
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Billy. 'S on broad.
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I want all y'all there by the way, come down and party with
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this early. And then Friday got the off day.
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Everything resets with the pitching is going to be good.
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So I think this was a really important game for this week.
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They set the tone. Kyle Gibson was awesome.
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The base paths were busy with full Cardinals.
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I was really impressed. Now I'm not even kidding,
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though. I I was kind of kidding about
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Kyle Gibson and Lance Lynn being a bunch of Sai young guys.
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I'm I'm not kidding about everything else.
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The Cardinals, I think, really set the tone for this week.
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And by the way, just so we have the.
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So win the series, the. Facts.
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Yeah, go ahead. So and and Schilling got crap
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for this. But Schilling is friends with
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Wakefield. Basically at the end he heard he
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heard Wakefield was going to pass and he kind of said let's
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pray for him. But the family didn't want it
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out there because because he said that Wakefield had been
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diagnosed with an aggressive form of brain cancer and that
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his wife has pancreatic cancer. So the family didn't want that
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out there. They wanted it private.
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And I know again, it all gets back to politics.
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People want to crush Curt Schilling.
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He was basically saying pray for my guy, but the the family did
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not want that information out there.
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And then she passed five months later.
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So she had just so everybody knows, she had pancreatic
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cancer. He had an aggressive form of
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brain cancer. Oh, God almighty.
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So that's according to people. That's devastating.
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I think that was exacerbated too, by the fact that I think it
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was Veritech's wife who went after him on Twitter.
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It was a. After Schilling, Yeah.
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OK, one of the former teammates, wife I think was Jason Veritech,
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went after him, which just made, yeah, just made it even worse.
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And I get that. But this all gets back to the
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women's basketball thing. Anything Curt Schilling does,
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he's also a political lightning rod.
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So if he does anything because he's a conservative, that side's
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going to back him. The other side's going to attack
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him. Yeah, I think in this particular
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story he was trying to be a friend and just say, hey, pray
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for Tim. He's not doing well and just the
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family didn't want the information out there about the
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cancers for both of them. Yeah, I get that Saint Louis
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meeting with the exception of Slayton.
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Sounds like. Listen to Cubs homers.
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This team is awful. We had four green seats for 12
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years. Canceled them after last year.
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Brett. I mean, all right.
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But are they awful? They were awful last year.
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Do you think they're going to be awful this year?
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Awful. And To Charlie's point, because
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he said this, I think on yesterday's show that they kind
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of mail, not kind of, they did mail it in the final two months
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of the season, so. On purpose.
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They should have, by the way. Yeah, that's what you're
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supposed to do. Play the young guys.
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Mason Wing got caught up. Play the young guys that.
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That's the time to experiment when you know you're already
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done. So go out there and experiment
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around. You didn't have to play all of
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your stars all the time. You didn't have to play regular
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lineups. They tinkered around a little
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bit. That's fine.
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And obviously they sold at the deadline, so that also hurt
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their roster. And so yeah, I I I don't think
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that they were necessarily, despite everything, that was
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terrible, were they 71 win bad or were they 77 win bad?
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Now it's it's bad is bad for sure.
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But it's about the difference between how do you get to good,
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how far away are you from being good?
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I don't think that they're a good team this year.
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What's good? 90 wins.
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To me I mean. Well, 90 is pretty damn good in
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in modern baseball. That's 80. 5 to 90 wins.
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OK, I think that's. I think.
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I think. That.
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I. Think there's a big?
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Difference. No, no, I know.
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I do think there's a big difference between 9085 and 95,
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right? And I know like like 95, usually
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that team is a World Series contender. 90, OK, you're pretty
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Dang good. Pretty Dang good.
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There's going to be a million teams that that fall between
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83848586. There's going to be a lot of
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teams like that in baseball, and I think it's it's fair to call
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them. Good, fine, fine.
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Fine. For me.
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Middle of the road. If I call you if I when I say
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that the Cardinals are trying to build back to be a good team, I
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mean to a point where you are not so far and away removed from
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the Dodgers affiliates and the Braves class which they
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currently are. Even if they do finish top two
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in the division which I think they that's where they'll
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probably land. Charlie, you you said that you
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think they'll land third, which is a nightmare scenario for us
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in this show because we want I, said I.
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Said third place. I said third place, I think,
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Charlie. I think I said second, I think
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he chose. Second, I said.
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The Cards, The Reds. The Cardinals.
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Gotcha. OK, realistically, this could
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happen. And I know the the Cardinals
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just lost three or four to the Dodgers.
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But would it shock you? Let's just say Dodgers or
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Braves? Would it shock you if one or
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both of those teams won 105 games?
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No. And the Cardinals won 85 S Think
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about that. That would be Those teams are
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elite Cardinals, OK? I'd say you're fine.
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Pretty good. Whatever you want to call it.
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Pretty good. Fine.
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OK, you're You're 85. You probably get in the playoffs
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at 85. But yet you're twenty wins,
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potentially behind the Braves and the Dodgers, which most
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people think are the class of the National League and probably
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all of baseball. For me to be impressed with the
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Cardinals this year, they have to win a playoff series.
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That's that's a very fair bar to have.
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Thank you and. You know what?
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That's that's what I think is the the the biggest loss over
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the last year is that we have a lot of people have changed their
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expectations. If you remember going into last
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year, the fans were tired of 86 to 88 to 91 wins, winning a bad
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Central, maybe getting a wild card and the first round playoff
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exits. Fans were asking for more than
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that. But then 2023 was so bad with 71
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wins, it almost reshuffled the deck to.
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I think a lot of people now want to get back to the 86 wins,
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which we had been complaining about that for the three
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previous seasons. Yeah, I think you you got to win
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a playoff series because if you just get there, no matter how
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you get there, if you get there because you're surprisingly,
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really good and then you crap out in the first round of the
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playoffs anyway, then that be eventually becomes disappointing
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as the expectations change throughout the season.
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If and the current situation, the current expectations is the
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NL Central is going to be terrible.
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If you win a terrible division and then you make the playoffs
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and lose in the first round of the playoffs anyway, then it's
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going to be, well, you only got in because you were in the NL
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Central. If you were in a good division
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with the competitive teams, you wouldn't have been there.
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So I think in both scenarios, I think it makes sense for the
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argument to be to in order to be impressed.
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No, I'm saying be impressed. You can do a lot of things to
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take a step in the right direction, but that's in part
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because of how bad last year was.
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So to be impressed you, you got to win something in the
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postseason. And that's where I still believe
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that that fans media who are criticizing the Cardinals for
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not getting top end starting pitching one other guy.
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That's where regardless of what happens in the regular season,
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if they match up, like just look at the Phillies.
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The Phillies are the perfect example for many reasons.
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Obviously the Phillies beat the Cardinals two years ago.
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Phillies made a nice run last year.
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But but also, why did they do that?
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Do they spend money? Yes.
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Do they have great position players?
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Yes. On paper, when you know in a
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three-game series you're facing Nolan Wheeler, it's just
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different. It's just different.
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And I'm sorry, Kyle Gibson was great last night.
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It's going to be different if the Cardinals line up in the
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playoffs. Sonny Gray and Kyle Gibson,
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Lance Lynn or or whatever the version is, Right.
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That's the thing people are saying, OK, we like the lineup.
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Bullpen could be great. It's just it's it's going to be
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hard to go on a run, in my opinion, with this starting
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rotation. That's why.
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It's just really nice to have two dudes that you just you just
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feel good about them, like you. I don't care how Nolan Wheeler
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do, and they have great success. You feel fantastic.
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You feel fantastic. When they're starting your first
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two games of a playoff series, you're like, dude, I'll go to
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war with them. Would you?
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If you're the Cardinals, you're like, I feel good about Sonny
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Grey, second guy, whether it's Miles Michaelis, Lance Lynn,
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Kyle Gibson. You're kind of like, we'll see
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what happens. And that's how we felt, by the
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way, two years ago. And that's exactly what took
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place. Remember, they had, they had
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Quintana going game one, they had Michaelis going game two.
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They didn't even get to their third starter.
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Yeah, so Jordan Montgomery was of zero playoff hues,
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essentially. Well, he came in in that game,
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but yes, you're right. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
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I can remember if it was Montgomery or we know, but to
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everything that you're saying, that's why I think the argument
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about just getting the playoffs and see what happens, I think
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that argument is losing credibility, especially since a
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couple years ago they reformatted the playoffs.
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And so now obviously it's the the three-game series, but once
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you get to the five game series, even if you advance, they're
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playing games on back-to-back days.
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You're not just playing one game every other day.
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You're playing one game and then another and then a day off.
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So you're playing pretty much four out of five days or four
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out of six days. However you want to take that.
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So the argument that you could possibly get away with only
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having three starters in a playoff series is basically
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acts. And now you have to have 4
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starters in a playoff series, which a a lot of teams already
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did that. But there was an argument too if
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if we really need it, if we have three guys who we're comfortable
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with, we'll overextend them a little bit with their starts.
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But they can't do that anymore. And so having a situation where
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OK, Greg, Greg gets you one. We like Sonny Gray.
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When he gets here, we'll we'll like him.
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And if we're fast, we'll see if we like playoffs.
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We hope we like. Him, I mean, we hope we like
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him. Right.
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But even if you make a couple acquisitions at the deadline and
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let's let's say one of them hits, one of them doesn't kind
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of like Lester and Hap. I know that Hap was really good.
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Jon Lester wasn't that good. It was a four ERAI off the top
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of my head. I hope that's correct.
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But nowadays, that's not bad. Yeah, but Even so, I I still
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think that having a guaranteed playoff starter of either
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Michaelis or Lynn or Gibson, or possibly even worse, two of
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those three, that ain't a good situation.
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Yeah, no, I agree. And that's and that's why I
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think that you can't win a World Series even if you're hot at the
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right time, because I don't think, I don't think you're
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pitching is going to be good for it.
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You you can, but I think it's the outlier.
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We we talked about this yesterday with the 2011 World
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Series. You had an absolute stud ace and
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Chris Carpenter and Tony O Russo masterfully bullpen his way
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through that, through that month of October.
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Which could the Cardinals, could they do that is only the
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greatest bullpen manager. I don't think we've seen that
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yet. But in the in the postseason,
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you do have more off days. There's a lot more bullpen.
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And look, you saw bullpen games in the freaking World Series
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last year. Think about that, where
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literally the teams are going to say no, we're going to throw 9
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dudes. We're going to have everybody
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get an inning in the World Series.
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There's actually one thing that I think weirdly plays in the
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Cardinals favor. And again, I didn't want to do a
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bunch of playoff talk, but here we are.
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I I think that the fact that they are nowhere near the
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Dodgers and the Braves and the Phillies, that they they can't
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have a first round by this year. There's no way there's any sort
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of situation where the Cardinals win like 98 games and have a
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first round by. I think that's fair.
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I actually think. And we only have a sample size
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of two years to playoff of. So all the we don't have enough
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data yet. But it's kind of looking like
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it's trending in the direction that teams with first round buys
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who have to sit five days at the end of the season, that's not
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very good. And so if the Cardinals do win a
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playoff series and end up against a team who's been
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sitting for the better part of a week, that is actually very
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advantageous for the Cardinals. So that that is kind of a weird
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scenario. But sit.
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For five days, man, you lose that mojo.
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I know. I'm just and and then it gets to
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the point of what happens at the end of this season.
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What do you do with Goldie and how to be structured the roster
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and you can go 100 million directions with this, but good
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to see. Arnado hit last night.
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It is. It is an interesting exercise.
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Does this did? This swing look different.
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Because he had a horrible series in LA.
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Yeah, he. Did his finish look weird?
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The way he was finishing his swing kind of looked like this
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half finish. It just looked different than
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what he normally does. Yeah, people were talking about
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that, Charlie. The fans have to have to change
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their expectations because the organization clearly has to.
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Yeah. And just so everybody knows, I
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don't agree with what the organization is doing, but
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that's what they're doing. And that's where I feel like a
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lot of times media folks, we get the arrows from fans, which I
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understand it's all good for just speaking about the team
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realistically because we know what they're going to do and not
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going to do right. I mean, every year I would love
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to say, hey, they should sign everyone.
21:31
I've been here 1617 years now you know how the Cardinals are
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going to do business. You could have bet your life
21:37
savings that the Cardinals were going to sign Sonny Gray.
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I mean, you knew Sonny Gray was the perfect Cardinal.
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People do in the middle of the season.
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It was. It was the most Cardinal signing
21:47
ever, 34 whatever age. So you get shorter deal.
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Pretty Dang good, but shorter deal.
21:53
We always joke boring, boring dude and his family, man in his
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mid 30s. That's a.
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Cardinal a good player who has age risk.
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A good player who wants to live in Chesterfield.
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Yeah, Andrew Miller. Next to Tuna.
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There you go, he. Was a good player, but it was
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his second free agency, so you know he'd been around a while.
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Correct. And little bit of a bargain bin
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signing. I'm sorry, I'm not letting that
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go. For Andrew Miller.
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Yeah, he had all those good years and then his contract year
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he wasn't good anymore. And then bam.
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So did he have one good year with the Cardinals?
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Didn't we? Look this up.
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Yeah, we did this a little bit, he.
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Pitched his his ass off during that during that playoff run.
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I'm in non-stop in Cleveland in 2016, Yeah.
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Oh my gosh, he was a a rock star.
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That that was some of the best playoff baseball of my life was
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Andrew Miller. That's how you can you can
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bullpen your way to a World Series.
22:45
They didn't win, but they almost did, and freaking Andrew Miller
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was a huge reason why. Remember, he wasn't their closer
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that year. Their closer was and I forgot
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his name, but they had a. Jody Allen.
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I think it was Cody Allen. Cody Allen was their closer, but
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they would bring Andrew Miller in 5th inning, 6th inning, 7th
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inning, 2 guys on, they need to strike out.
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Boom. He strikes out two dudes.
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He goes an inning and 2/3 and he gets you to your closer.
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Exactly. He he was awesome.
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That's another thing. Speaking of bullpens, that's why
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I was not inspired by what I saw in LA from this baseball team is
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because they lost in both the directions.
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The 1st 2. The starters didn't even give
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them a chance because they got lit up immediately.
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And then the bullpen tried their damnedest in game three to throw
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that game away guy. God bless Gallegos, who
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inherited the runner on second base to start the 10th inning.
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And I think he was the only reliever who didn't give up runs
23:38
in that game. And then in the fourth game,
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your bullpen collapse there, too.
23:42
So you had the starters getting buried in the first half.
23:45
And I guess it depends on what your expectations are for the
23:47
season for the bullpen, because I think everybody kind of has
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low expectations for the starters.
23:52
So the first couple games kind of fit the bill, and that kind
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of gave every that kind of proved everybody's preconceived
23:57
notions correct. But if you don't think Kylie of
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the bullpen, then your preconceived notions were also
24:03
proved correct in Game Three and Game Four, even though you won
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Game 3. Yeah, and my thing on that is,
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you also got to remember we didn't know.
24:11
The public didn't know until the 4th game that Steven Mats was on
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a pitch count. But you damn well know the
24:16
Cardinals knew that. So Ollie has to go into that
24:20
whole series knowing in the final series my pitcher's only
24:24
going 80 pitches, he's only throwing 5 innings.
24:27
So that's where in game two, which I brought up yesterday,
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that's where it may be. OK, I I hate to punt a game when
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it's 5 zip. But if you know your pitcher is
24:39
going to throw 80 pitches on Sunday, and you also know you're
24:42
already banged up, right with with Riley O'Brien, you really
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do have to manage that pen and be able to use a guy like
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Gallegos, hopefully only in games you can win, which they
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could have. If you don't throw Gallegos in
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game two, you can use him in two winnable games, which is game
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three. They did win, and then that's
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that's real. They probably win Game 4 if they
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have better matchups in the bullpen, yeah.
25:06
The Blue Jays just did that last night, which upset me with
25:08
Genesis Cabrera because they brought him in and the announcer
25:13
said that they're expecting a suspension, that he's a, he's
25:17
appealing a situation or whatever from Tampa Bay where
25:19
they they got in a fight and he went after somebody pushed
25:22
somebody, didn't he? Yeah.
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And so he gives up two home runs.
25:25
They they were getting crushed. He gave up two home runs and
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they yanked him after like 17 pitches.
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And it's like, if you know he's gonna get suspended and the
25:31
game's already out of hand, just let him wear them out.
25:34
Just save everybody else and let him go.
25:36
Just punt the game. So how?
25:38
Didn't they do that? I don't know.
25:40
Because, like, they just were tired of getting beat and we're
25:43
just like, all right, on to the next guy.
25:44
So what does he get? Three games.
25:47
I don't know. I thought was has not been the
25:50
the long arm of the law has not struck down yet.
25:52
This is. Relievers, but they're
25:53
expecting. Relievers, Suspensions are
25:55
almost a good thing for them. It's rest.
25:57
I know it's early in the season, yeah, but it's really hard to
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punish or leave her unless you gave him about five games.
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Although you're losing money, but Bernie analyzed the last 20
26:06
years of the World Series and very few really good teams have
26:10
won. When was the last time the
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Dodger, the Braves won Peckerwood?
26:14
How about 2020 and 2021? So next half.
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Of the year, Bob Ramsey would say.
26:19
And then the 2021 Braves. They redid their whole outfield
26:24
of the trade deadline. That was Adam Yuval.
26:27
It was Jorge Solaire. It was Jock Peterson.
26:30
It was a it was the dude from the Eddie Rosario.
26:32
Eddie Rosario. Because Acuna blew out his ACL
26:36
that season, so he wasn't even on the roster.
26:39
So pitching wise, would that have been still freed?
26:44
Morton? Was Morton there?
26:46
That's probably before Strider. Was Soroka healthy?
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I can't remember. I have a terrible memory now.