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Credlin | 5 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on Sky ingins Australia. Good evening.
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Speaker 2: See price in for Peter Credlin on another very busy
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Speaker 2: newsday with economic data out basically as we've been saying
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Speaker 2: on Sky showing Australia's in a technical recession. They have
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Speaker 2: not been used to anybody watching us struggling with cost
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Speaker 2: of living pressures, although you'd never know watching Treasurer Jim
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Speaker 2: Chalmers today bragging about the jobb he's doing. More on
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Speaker 2: that coming up, Also coming up on the program tonight,
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Speaker 2: A day on from the idea of Australia's defense force
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Speaker 2: is so depleted for numbers we need to recruit foreigners
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Speaker 2: and put them in our uniform. We will try and
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Speaker 2: find out how that will actually work. The Australian's Greg
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Speaker 2: Sheridan will join us shortly. Disgraceful dangerous behavior from anti
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Speaker 2: Israel protesters now they've put at threat the safety of
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Speaker 2: political staff, including the Prime Minister's Electorate Office will check
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Speaker 2: our panel on what police action they think should happen
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Speaker 2: to these people defacing these officers and stupidly, and I
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Speaker 2: say stupidly, plumbers and builders, even engineers have been left
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Speaker 2: off the government's list of skilled visa priorities in a
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Speaker 2: climate of a housing crisis. Madness will check in with
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Speaker 2: the Master Builders' Association on that, plus the wonderful Kel
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Speaker 2: Richards in talking words at the end of the program tonight.
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Speaker 2: But first, we talked last night about the NDIS and
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Speaker 2: the routing of it. It seems the Minister responsible Bilt Shorten, though,
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Speaker 2: is more concerned with critics of the scheme than those
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Speaker 2: ripping it off. How else can you explain his performance today?
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Speaker 2: When confronted by Laura jays here on Sky, Shorten was
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Speaker 2: defensive and aggressive, resorting to the old excuse, Well, it
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Speaker 2: was in worse shape when we took over than it
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Speaker 2: is now.
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Speaker 3: I'm the bloke you hired John Dardo because before I
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Speaker 3: became the minister, the back office of the not scrutinizing
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Speaker 3: it at all. Media sometimes want to talk about all the problems,
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Speaker 3: and that's legitimate. The fact that we're having this conversation
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Speaker 3: is because of me and the Government of the day.
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Speaker 4: Two billion dollars a year and we're sitting here talking
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Speaker 4: about a cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 3: Okay, now you finished, I'll just tell you I get
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Speaker 3: up every day and work on this scheme. When I
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Speaker 3: came in, there are only forty one investigations underway. There's
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Speaker 3: now two hundred and twenty. When I came in, only
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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty one million dollars of payments to
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Speaker 3: be investigated. Now it's several billions of dollars. When I
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Speaker 3: was in opposition, I couldn't get a lot of interest
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Speaker 3: out of the media to talk about the problems. And
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Speaker 3: now I'm in government. The problems are worse than I've thought.
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Speaker 3: When you talk about the level and you say cost,
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Speaker 3: I still call it investment.
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Speaker 1: Well he's kidding, surely.
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Speaker 2: When his own fraud investigator, John Dato told Senate Estimates
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Speaker 2: that INDs clients were actually visiting at ms with their
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Speaker 2: provider to draw out cash to buy drugs, and when
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Speaker 2: asked what sort of drugs, he had this to say.
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Speaker 5: Name it.
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Speaker 6: It's on the list.
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Speaker 7: So heroin, cocaine, speed, you know, ice, everything.
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Speaker 6: And these are providers that are there to do harm.
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Speaker 2: Now, how can the minister, who by the way, has
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Speaker 2: been in charge for over two years sit back and
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Speaker 2: argue today with Laura that people choose to focus on
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Speaker 2: the negative instead of the positive things. The disability scheme
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Speaker 2: is doing that's wrong. For a start, two and a
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Speaker 2: half years or two years in a bit is a
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Speaker 2: long time and you have to ask when is this
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Speaker 2: alban Easy government going to take responsibility for anything. They
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Speaker 2: won't take blame for the visa debarkle saying Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: was worse. They won't take responsibility for lack of numbers
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Speaker 2: in the ADF or the fact that we are in
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Speaker 2: a technical recession or exploding immigration numbers, inflation or interest
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Speaker 2: rate rises. Surely at some stage you have to put
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Speaker 2: your hand up and admit two years in minus by
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Speaker 2: the way the pressures of a COVID PAN can say
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Speaker 2: things are not great instead of saying it's all the
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Speaker 2: other mob's fault. If you watch Question Time any day,
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Speaker 2: that's Labour's answer to any question about performance. Surely the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister must know those excuses can't last forever. Voters
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Speaker 2: are not mugs, and when it comes time to vote,
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Speaker 2: they will decide who to vote for based on how
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Speaker 2: they feel about their personal circumstances at the time. If
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Speaker 2: their kids can't afford to buy a house, if their
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Speaker 2: energy bills keep going up, insurance costs so much they
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Speaker 2: think about dropping it, or feel pain every time they
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Speaker 2: fill up the car with petrol.
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Speaker 1: They will know.
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Speaker 2: Exactly who to blame. New governments always have a honeymoon period,
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Speaker 2: but surely the honeymoon for this government can't last beyond
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Speaker 2: two years Kennet. It seems though Treasurer Jim Chalmers is
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Speaker 2: hanging onto the idea that the cost of living crisis
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Speaker 2: and virtual recession we're actually experienced is somehow the Morrison
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Speaker 2: Friedenberg government's fault.
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Speaker 8: It is not unpres it ended for the economy to
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Speaker 8: go backwards in happita terms. We know that because it
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Speaker 8: happened on their watch as well. They are the same
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Speaker 8: characters that left behind massive deficits, a huge amount of debt,
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Speaker 8: inflation almost double what it is now, real wages falling,
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Speaker 8: real spending growth higher than it is now. And that's why,
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Speaker 8: mister Speaker, nobody takes the Shadow treasure especially seriously.
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Speaker 9: And if he wants to ask lots of questions.
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Speaker 8: About the national accounts and the budget, I'd say that
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Speaker 8: would be a very good thing.
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Speaker 2: Come on, Jim, quit the subtle bragging, stop the excuses,
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Speaker 2: ditch the blame game. It's time to man up. Let's
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Speaker 2: head to Camber now speaking of Canberra for tonight's political
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Speaker 2: Headlines with Sky News political reporter Trudy Macintosh.
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Speaker 4: Australia's economy grinding to a halt. Growth at its slowest
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Speaker 4: pace outside the pandemic in four decades. GDP landed at
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Speaker 4: just zero point one percent and in the first three
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Speaker 4: months of this year and your growth down to one
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Speaker 4: point one percent.
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Speaker 8: The primary cause of this very weak growth in our
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Speaker 8: economy was higher interest rates.
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Speaker 4: The Treasurer wouldn't be drawn on whether another interest rate
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Speaker 4: hike could plunge Australia into a recession.
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Speaker 8: I don't speak for the Bank, but it's very clear
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Speaker 8: to Australians more broadly that the economy is barely growing.
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Speaker 1: And these numbers are truly a wake up call for.
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Speaker 4: The government, a tough message for mortgage holders. Rate hikes
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Speaker 4: on the cards if inflation heads in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 4: Monthly inflation bumped up in March and April. The next
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Speaker 4: quarterly read will come at the end of July.
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Speaker 10: It turns out, for example, that inflation starts to go
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Speaker 10: up again, or it's much sticky than we think, we're
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Speaker 10: not getting it down, then we won't hesitate to move
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Speaker 10: and raise interest rates again.
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Speaker 4: That will send a chill down the spines to many Australians,
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Speaker 4: particularly those that have a mortgage that we know are
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Speaker 4: doing it tough. The Treasurer's energy rebates, which kick in
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Speaker 4: from July one, are designed to take half a percent
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Speaker 4: off headline inflation, but Michelle Bullock says that won't influence
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Speaker 4: the RBA's view rates.
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Speaker 10: We're looking through those sorts of things that are impacting
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Speaker 10: headline and will be reversed and they'll come off again
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Speaker 10: in a year's time, and we're looking at.
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Speaker 4: The underlying pulse anddis Minister Bill short And is promising
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Speaker 4: to clean up the system, admitting roots are worse than
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Speaker 4: he first thought. This week it's been revealed billions in
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Speaker 4: taxpayer dollars has been used by Dodgy and dis providers
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Speaker 4: to buy drugs, cars and even lavish holidays.
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Speaker 3: The fact that we're uncovering some of the roughts is
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Speaker 3: because not because they've all started, you know last week.
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Speaker 3: They've been there and no one's addressed them. Now we
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Speaker 3: are addressing them.
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Speaker 4: And in question Time the Prime Minister and Opposition leader
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Speaker 4: United condemning the Greens for inciting violent pro Palestine protests
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Speaker 4: targeting MP's officers.
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Speaker 7: Enough is enough and the Green should condemn it instead
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Speaker 7: of condoning it.
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Speaker 4: Adam Bandt returned serve and instead.
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Speaker 2: Of talking about the vig members of myrow, minister wants
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Speaker 2: to make it about himself.
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Speaker 4: Trudy Macintosh, Sky News Cadbra.
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Speaker 1: Good on your truity. Thanks for that. Now let's get
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Speaker 1: into the other.
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Speaker 2: Big news stories of the day with Sky News host
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Speaker 2: and national affairs editor for The Daily Telegraph James Morrow
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Speaker 2: and Sky News' senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Now, as I mentioned,
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Speaker 2: welcome to you both. The Prime Minister's Marrickville office. We
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Speaker 2: saw images of it there in Sydney's Inner West. It's
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Speaker 2: been basically empty, we're told since January, start of the year,
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Speaker 2: which I think probably would surprise everybody. There's safety concerns
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Speaker 2: for staff stemming from those protests from pro Palestinian demonstrator's
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Speaker 2: warnings from the local federal police. And that comes after
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Speaker 2: the AFP Commissioner. I noticed Rhys Kershaw revealed this week
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Speaker 2: that threats to Australian politicians and this figure is dreadful,
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Speaker 2: are up one hundred and sixty percent on three years ago. James,
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Speaker 2: just on this it goes to the heart of an
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Speaker 2: apparent lack I believe of will from state police ice
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Speaker 2: forces to actually deal with these protests.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: I know the PM's office would be under the control
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Speaker 2: of the IFP, but the Stike police, particularly in Victoria
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Speaker 2: and also in a Y in New South Wales, have
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Speaker 2: been very reluctant to move these people on, haven't they.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, Look, there's been a huge reluctance to deal with
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Speaker 11: these protesters. To be fair, you know, there's often a
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Speaker 11: reluctance to deal with protesters of all sorts of stripes,
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Speaker 11: whether it's people who glue themselves to the road or
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Speaker 11: these Palestinian pro Palestinian pro Hamas types who put encampments
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Speaker 11: out in front of parliamentary offices or anywhere else. This, though,
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Speaker 11: is really dangerous business.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 11: I mean, we're talking about a situation where the electorate
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Speaker 11: office of the Prime Minister of this country cannot function,
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Speaker 11: is not being allowed to function because ground has been
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Speaker 11: ceded to the pro Palestinian side here by, I don't know,
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Speaker 11: is it the AFP, is it New South Wales Police.
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Speaker 11: Presumably these two bodies work together. Either way, A it's
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Speaker 11: a disgrace, but B it's also really dangerous because you know,
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Speaker 11: you mentioned before when you were talking about this, the
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Speaker 11: rise in the number of threats against elected officials, politicians
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Speaker 11: people like that over this issue. And you know, you
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Speaker 11: only have to look at what's been happening in places
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Speaker 11: like England, in Germany, in Europe elsewhere to see that
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Speaker 11: a lot of these threats can eventually start to eventuate
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Speaker 11: into real attacks on our democracy, on our elected officials.
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Speaker 11: I don't care what side of politics, who they are,
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Speaker 11: it's unacceptable. And you know, for this to be a
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Speaker 11: rule of law society, that means that you know, you
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Speaker 11: simply cannot go and shut down the office of an
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Speaker 11: elected representative, much less the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: Caroline, you've done some great work in this area of
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Speaker 2: the rise of anti Semitism. As an office worker in
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Speaker 2: the PM's electorate officer or in the office of the
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Speaker 2: minister whose office was dulled with red pint, would you
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Speaker 2: feel safe going to work?
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Speaker 12: No, of course, not pricing and obviously this should be condemned.
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Speaker 12: But I have to say that state police have crackdown
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Speaker 12: on protesters during the lockdowns, remember those and lockdown protests.
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Speaker 13: We're more than happy to crack down in that instance.
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Speaker 12: So the fact that they haven't taken a strong position
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Speaker 12: on these pro Palestinian protesters, well that's on state leadership,
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Speaker 12: but I have to say the federal leadership on this
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Speaker 12: issue has been extremely lacking. And where federal police could
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Speaker 12: have stepped in post October seven is with hate preachers
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Speaker 12: and other forms of hate speech that fall under federal laws.
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Speaker 12: I mean, we had new federal laws that came in
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Speaker 12: to deal with things like glorifying terrorism, and they haven't
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Speaker 12: been used most of the time, so in these cases.
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Speaker 12: So I do take issue with the fact that some
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Speaker 12: of this it doesn't have to do with the Prime minister.
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Speaker 12: It absolutely does, and I think the fact that he
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Speaker 12: didn't strongly condemn some of those incidents from the start,
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Speaker 12: and nor did other parts of his government. In fact,
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Speaker 12: they did the opposite and tried to form some kind
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Speaker 12: of equivalence between what Israel was doing and what har
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Speaker 12: Maas was doing is part of the problem here pricing.
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Speaker 13: And that's why, while I'm.
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Speaker 12: Glad that he's pulling out the Greens and these protesters
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Speaker 12: who have not been peaceful in many respects, they've been
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Speaker 12: the opposite, it rings a little hollow to me. And
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Speaker 12: it just sounds like he cares when his own place
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Speaker 12: is getting trashed. Meanwhile, Jews across the country have seen
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Speaker 12: an alarming rise in the number of anti Semitic incidents.
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Speaker 13: We saw the graffiti.
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Speaker 12: On a Jewish school the other week in Melbourne that
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Speaker 12: said do die where young kids go to school, and
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Speaker 12: that's become commonplace in this country and I think a
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Speaker 12: lot of it has to do with that lack of leadership.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, anyone who watched Josh Froedenberg's excellent documentary on Sky
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Speaker 2: when it was all dragged together the extent of this
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism would have been shocked and horrified. I think
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Speaker 2: you mentioned the Prime Minister today he did climb into
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Speaker 2: the Greens. I want to get both of your view
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Speaker 2: on this, but you know it's convenient for the PM
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Speaker 2: to bag the Greens because obviously he wants to take
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Speaker 2: votes off the Greens. But he did climb into them
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Speaker 2: in Parliament today. Have a listened to what he said
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Speaker 2: and he was pointing at Adam Bant when he was
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Speaker 2: making these comments.
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Speaker 5: He's unacceptable that misinformation has been consciously and deliberately spread
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Speaker 5: by some Green senators and Mpeace have engaged in this
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Speaker 5: in demonstrations outside offices and online.
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Speaker 2: I was watching that live and I'm pleased the Speaker
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Speaker 2: let Peter Dutton respond.
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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say.
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Speaker 7: What the Prime Minister does today in condemning the actions
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Speaker 7: of those who seek for their own political purposes, their
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Speaker 7: own political advancement to poor fuel on this fire, deserve
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Speaker 7: condemnation of this chamber.
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Speaker 2: I was very impressed with Dutton there, James. I thought
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Speaker 2: he was outstanding there today.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, absolutely he was. But it's also, you know,
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Speaker 11: I think, as you say, quite opportunistic too for the
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Speaker 11: Prime Minister to be going against the Greens here on
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Speaker 11: this sort of thing, because of course, you know, half
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Speaker 11: the time he is trying to give aid and comfort
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Speaker 11: to that side of politics, or at least try to
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Speaker 11: appease them, you know, on issues from Israel to other
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Speaker 11: things as well, and not take the firm stands on
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Speaker 11: Israel and other issues when he needs to when it's
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Speaker 11: not convenient for him because they're going to attack him.
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Speaker 1: Caroline.
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Speaker 2: As usual, Adam Bant refused to accept the Greens had
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Speaker 2: done anything wrong. The Speaker let him stand and speak
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Speaker 2: to the Parliament in a motion that is supposed to
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Speaker 2: support what the two leaders had said.
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Speaker 1: But have a look at what Band did.
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Speaker 7: I not be lectured to about peace and nonviolence by
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Speaker 7: people who back the invasion of Gazo. Children are dying,
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Speaker 7: Children are dying because the Israeliami has.
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Speaker 1: Engineered a famine, and.
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Speaker 2: Instead of talking about the victims of our own minister
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Speaker 2: wants to make it about himself.
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Speaker 1: The leader of the Australian Greens were in this seat.
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Speaker 1: The leader of the Australian Greens were resume your seat.
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Speaker 1: I explained clearly how indulgence works. It is not being.
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Speaker 2: Granted Caroline, what a disgrace that bloke is. And I
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Speaker 2: mean not just for what he did there, but the
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Speaker 2: way he has not disciplined people in his own party
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Speaker 2: who have gone out and supported these pro Palestinian rallies.
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Speaker 12: It actually sickens me that this has become almost like
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Speaker 12: an anti Semitic cult, the Greens Party. And what we
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Speaker 12: just saw there from Adam Band, I mean, I think
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Speaker 12: that borders on a blood libel, suggesting that Israel is
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Speaker 12: deliberately starving Palestinian children as a weapon of war. Let's
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Speaker 12: not forget that it was Hamas that invaded Israel, that
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Speaker 12: hides behind its children, women, innocent civilians as human shields
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Speaker 12: and refuses to surrender or return the hostages, prolonging.
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Speaker 13: The suffering of its own people.
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Speaker 12: But you know, other Greens members have been even shamefully
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Speaker 12: worse than out of band, and as you mentioned, he's
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Speaker 12: barely condemned them or disciplined them. The Deputy leader of
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Speaker 12: the Federal Party, Marine Ferruki, she was pictured posing next
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Speaker 12: to her sign that depicted Jews being put in the bin.
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Speaker 12: She not only posed next to it, she posted it
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Speaker 12: to her own social media, while the State Greens and
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Speaker 12: p Jenny Leong mustard this a Nazi Germany era propaganda
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Speaker 12: image of Jews and their tentacle, having their tentacles and everything.
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Speaker 13: So the Greens have a lot to answer for.
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Speaker 12: But if the government and the Prime Minister wants to
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Speaker 12: call them out, then they should put their money where
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Speaker 12: their mouth.
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Speaker 13: Is and preference the last. But somehow, I don't think
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Speaker 13: that's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see that happening either, James. I watched
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Speaker 2: the News Corps Australia Executive chairman Michael Miller today at
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Speaker 2: the National Press Club. He got the normal dopey questions
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Speaker 2: from SBS and the ABC trying to stick the knife
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Speaker 2: to News Limited. But he was talking about social media
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Speaker 2: tech giants having to play by rules of Australia, and
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Speaker 2: he talked about social license, which I think we'd all
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Speaker 2: love to see come in given the incidents of cyber
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Speaker 2: bullying and what these people like Meta are getting away with.
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Speaker 2: Made a lot of sense that speech today. Do you
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Speaker 2: think the government though, can be carried to act against
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Speaker 2: these powerful entities.
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Speaker 11: Well, whether the government or doesn't ignores the fact that
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Speaker 11: there is i think right now growing groundswell in the
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Speaker 11: community about how these tech giants behave, but also more
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Speaker 11: than that, how these social media programs and platforms affect
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Speaker 11: our young people in particular. You know, you mentioned cyberbilying,
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Speaker 11: but there's also real serious evidence from people like the
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Speaker 11: American thinker Jonathan Hate that these screens, these these these
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Speaker 11: social media programs, these these algorithms are essentially rewiring young
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Speaker 11: people's brains, leading to epidemics of depression, on happiness, soberability
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Speaker 11: and all of that. And it seems like to me
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Speaker 11: a pretty simple proposition that if you're in a country
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Speaker 11: like Australia where we do regulate things. And you know,
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Speaker 11: we regulate things like alcohol for the harm that it causes,
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Speaker 11: and tobacco for the harm that it causes, and you know,
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Speaker 11: other things for what they do. Then why would you
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Speaker 11: treat this particular technology, this new, very disruptive technology, any
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Speaker 11: different and not you know, force them to play by
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Speaker 11: the same rules that other businesses, other media companies such
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Speaker 11: as our own, but also you know, any other operation
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Speaker 11: that operates within the environment here, the legal environment of Australia.
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Speaker 11: And I mean there's also simple things too, you know,
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Speaker 11: like just simply having a phone number, a point of
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Speaker 11: contact where if there's a problem you can get in
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Speaker 11: touch with the company. Have you ever tried to get
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Speaker 11: in touch with any of these companies? I mean, even
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Speaker 11: as a journalist it's almost impossible, So you know, I think, yeah,
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Speaker 11: there's a lot of good sense there. Whether or not
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Speaker 11: the government gets on board, well at rents be seen.
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Speaker 1: Let's hope they do.
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Speaker 2: Caroline, just briefly before we go, you've got an exclusive
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Speaker 2: with mining magnate Gina Reinhart, Australia's richest person. Concerns over
19:41
Speaker 2: radical gender ideology being included in school curriculums.
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Speaker 1: What's the story here?
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Speaker 12: Well, Gina ryan Hart has made this extraordinary intervention. She
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Speaker 12: has warned families to stand up against what she calls
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Speaker 12: woke on Australian propaganda that's taking over school correct now.
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Speaker 13: This has all come.
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Speaker 12: About as a result of a clash between the very
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Speaker 12: well off parents that are part of this elite girls'
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Speaker 12: school community in Perth at a school that Ginna Rene
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Speaker 12: Hut went to herself called Saint Hilda's Anglican School for Girls.
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Speaker 12: They're taking on the school for what they say is
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Speaker 12: radical gender ideology that's crept into the curriculum and it's
20:22
Speaker 12: culminated in the higher this year of two teachers, one
20:25
Speaker 12: who's transgender, one who identifies as non binary that asks
20:30
Speaker 12: the children to use their preferred pronouns. That the lessons
20:35
Speaker 12: have included things like having evolver doesn't mean that you're
20:38
Speaker 12: a woman and that you must use someone's preferred pronouns
20:43
Speaker 12: in every scenario.
20:44
Speaker 13: So there's some warnings over that.
20:47
Speaker 12: The school says they're providing progressive, inclusive environment for their
20:51
Speaker 12: students and it hasn't affected enrollments, but Missus Ryan Hut
20:56
Speaker 12: says more people need to stand up against this and
21:00
Speaker 12: she'd like to see a local version of the Moms
21:03
Speaker 12: for America movement that's been taking on the school boards over.
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Speaker 13: In the US.
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Speaker 2: James and Caroline, thank you very much for tonight. It
21:11
Speaker 2: was a pleasure to catch up with you both.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan is the foreign affairs editor of the Australian newspaper.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk to him about the mixed messaging
21:21
Speaker 2: from the Albanezy government on foreigners fighting in the Australian uniform.
21:25
Speaker 2: First it was going to be Kiwi's, then it seems
21:28
Speaker 2: it was anybody who wanted to put their hand up.
21:30
Speaker 2: The Minister mat Keo told reporters the need would be
21:33
Speaker 2: widened to include permanent residents from any other countries. Richard
21:37
Speaker 2: Miles has had to walk that back and confirm it
21:40
Speaker 2: would be restricted to Kiwi's plus five eyes countries only.
21:45
Speaker 2: Foreign editor Greg Sheridan joins us. Greg, what does this
21:48
Speaker 2: say though about the recruiting in the Australian Defense Force
21:54
Speaker 2: and the lack of young Australians wanting to actually sign
21:58
Speaker 2: up to work toward defending our country.
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Speaker 6: Well, Steve, great to be with you. So I think
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Speaker 6: the government has been a little messy here in the
22:09
Speaker 6: way it's announced this, but I think in principle it's
22:12
Speaker 6: a very good initiative. You know, the Brits have the
22:15
Speaker 6: Gurkhas and they're amongst the finest fighters. I mean, my
22:18
Speaker 6: criticism would be the government is doing this on a
22:21
Speaker 6: typical defense ice age timeline. You know, we get New
22:24
Speaker 6: Zealanders next year, and the Five Eyes the year after
22:28
Speaker 6: or something in the South Pacific Islanders and one hundred
22:30
Speaker 6: years time. Why not get them all tomorrow. Look, we
22:33
Speaker 6: desperately need soldiers. And the other thing is it's being
22:38
Speaker 6: restricted to people who've lived here for a year and
22:40
Speaker 6: who have to become citizens within ninety days. Now, if
22:44
Speaker 6: you become a citizen, no matter what country you're from,
22:47
Speaker 6: you can join the Australian Defense Force anyway. So I
22:51
Speaker 6: think the underlying truth here is that Defense has been
22:57
Speaker 6: incredibly bad at recruiting people. This ran a defense force.
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Speaker 6: Partly they have a whole lot of ridiculous exclusions and
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Speaker 6: requirements and so on. If you've been homeschooled, they'll keep
23:08
Speaker 6: you out because they'll say you haven't had the right
23:10
Speaker 6: social development. Apparently, if you haven't been subjected to gender
23:13
Speaker 6: bending theory in a state school or something, you haven't
23:16
Speaker 6: had the right social development, and of course the process
23:20
Speaker 6: just takes forever. Remember my own family was interested in
23:22
Speaker 6: joining the defense force. He was going to end up
23:24
Speaker 6: on the old age pension before before he got an answer.
23:27
Speaker 6: And the kids that you want, the young people that
23:29
Speaker 6: you want, they've got other options. You know, they don't
23:32
Speaker 6: hang around for eight een months to go through the
23:35
Speaker 6: sort of layers of inane mad defense bureaucracy. Now, obviously
23:40
Speaker 6: you've got to do security checks on people. I don't
23:43
Speaker 6: see why they're doing it one country at a time.
23:45
Speaker 6: I'd be happy if it was able to do anybody,
23:48
Speaker 6: so long as they're they pass all the security checks
23:51
Speaker 6: and they become a citizen within ninety days. Or My
23:55
Speaker 6: message to Defense is the Nike you know, adopt the
23:58
Speaker 6: Nike slogan, just do it. Stop talking about these things,
24:02
Speaker 6: then just do it.
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Speaker 1: It's quite ludicrous.
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Speaker 2: On State of Origin night, we're quite happy to recruit
24:09
Speaker 2: Brits and Kiwi's and anyone from any Pacific island and
24:12
Speaker 2: all everybody in PMNG.
24:14
Speaker 1: Come and play rugby league.
24:17
Speaker 2: We're making it difficult for them to join our defense force.
24:20
Speaker 2: It does seem pretty schilly. Let's talk submarines. I know,
24:23
Speaker 2: This is a subject that you and I agree wildly about.
24:27
Speaker 2: The Collins class subs, three of which are currently out
24:30
Speaker 2: of service anyway. Now today it's been reported that a
24:33
Speaker 2: feasibility studying advice from the US government says the Colins
24:37
Speaker 2: class subs can't be armed with the two hundred Tomahawk
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Speaker 2: cruise missiles the government has spent one point three billion
24:45
Speaker 2: dollars on. Boy, does that come as a surprise that
24:48
Speaker 2: Defense didn't sort of think that through.
24:52
Speaker 6: Well, Steve, I think those particular tomahawks are destined for
24:56
Speaker 6: the air warfare destroyers. But the air warfare destroyer are
25:00
Speaker 6: the only modern warships we have in our entire fleet,
25:03
Speaker 6: and we only have three of them. And of course
25:06
Speaker 6: two hundred missiles is a very tiny number in an
25:09
Speaker 6: actual war that would take you through to about morning
25:12
Speaker 6: tea on day two. And I am deeply skeptical of
25:19
Speaker 6: this American study which is apparently found the Colins can't
25:23
Speaker 6: use the Tomahawks, because four years, four years and years,
25:28
Speaker 6: the intention of the Australian government, long before Albanesi, was
25:32
Speaker 6: to put Tomahawks on the Colins. There were endless talks
25:36
Speaker 6: with the Americans about it. They've got a manufacture a
25:38
Speaker 6: particular type of tomahawk to be fired through a submarine tube,
25:43
Speaker 6: and they don't any longer manufacture them, but they've said
25:46
Speaker 6: they'd be quite happy to manufacture them for us if
25:48
Speaker 6: we wanted to purchase a whole lot of them. Now
25:51
Speaker 6: you've got this defense. There's alleged American study saying it's
25:55
Speaker 6: not value for money, and if you put the tomahawks
25:57
Speaker 6: in the torpedo tubes, you won't have enough torpedoes to
26:01
Speaker 6: defend yourself, and so on. This sounds all too convenient
26:04
Speaker 6: to me. Defense always comes up with a million excuse
26:06
Speaker 6: about why I can't do anything at all. They're not
26:09
Speaker 6: going to upgrade the Anzac frigates. It looks like they're
26:12
Speaker 6: trying to welsh on the deal even to upgrade the colons.
26:15
Speaker 6: Of course, this is a bipartisan failure. It is grotesque
26:18
Speaker 6: and insane that we expect the colons still to be
26:22
Speaker 6: in the water by the twenty thirties. You know, this
26:25
Speaker 6: is a bit like going into the Korean War with
26:28
Speaker 6: ships commissioned by Queen Victoria or something. It's just it's
26:33
Speaker 6: completely insane. But the liberal governments of Abbott, Turnbull and
26:38
Speaker 6: Morrison did absolutely nothing to acquire a submarine. So far,
26:43
Speaker 6: the Albanese government has got an agreement that we might
26:46
Speaker 6: buy a secondhand Virginia. Well that's good if the Americans
26:50
Speaker 6: stick to that agreement. Hard to believe they will, because
26:53
Speaker 6: they'd have to take one out of their own line
26:54
Speaker 6: of battle to sell it to us, But they might,
26:57
Speaker 6: they might. And then we have this pie in the
26:59
Speaker 6: sky Cockermami bizarre scheme that while we can't make missiles
27:04
Speaker 6: or anything else, we're going to be able to build
27:05
Speaker 6: nuclear submarines in Adelaide. The whole bottom line of it
27:09
Speaker 6: all is we desperately need submarines. We ought to have
27:13
Speaker 6: them right now. The government always intended to put tomahawks
27:18
Speaker 6: on the Collins class. They would be more formidable with tomahawks.
27:23
Speaker 6: I'm just have the greatest possible skepticism about this latest
27:27
Speaker 6: dog ate my homework excuse that they've conjured up another report.
27:31
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what any government can get defense to
27:33
Speaker 6: conjure up any report in the world to tell it
27:37
Speaker 6: it can't do something, and to say something isn't value
27:40
Speaker 6: for money, Well, what that means is how much do
27:42
Speaker 6: you value a formidable submarine? And now you know the
27:46
Speaker 6: college is supposed to be staying there until the twenty
27:49
Speaker 6: thirties and forties, and yet apparently it can't fire tomahawks,
27:54
Speaker 6: just doesn't have all lad up.
27:55
Speaker 2: To me, defense seems to run a ring around every
27:59
Speaker 2: prime minister, every defense minister we've ever had. Just before
28:01
Speaker 2: we go briefly, do you believe that Israel might have
28:06
Speaker 2: an all out attack on his Bala? The idea of
28:09
Speaker 2: for apparently preparing for an offensive along that northern border.
28:12
Speaker 1: What are you hearing, look.
28:15
Speaker 6: Steve, I think this is a very serious situation and
28:17
Speaker 6: it could well happen. My guess would be it'll be
28:20
Speaker 6: something less than an all out offensive. But there is
28:23
Speaker 6: still something like eighty or one hundred thousand Israelis displaced
28:26
Speaker 6: from the northern towns of Lebanon now of Israel, the
28:30
Speaker 6: northern towns of Israel, theyre the Lebanon border, and my
28:32
Speaker 6: information is the Israelis have already done quite heavy air
28:36
Speaker 6: force work and forced back Hazbla ten to fifteen kilometers
28:41
Speaker 6: from the Israeli border. I think they need to force
28:43
Speaker 6: them back probably another ten of fifteen kilometers, in order
28:47
Speaker 6: to have enough security to repopulate their northern towns. I'm
28:50
Speaker 6: certain that the Israelis will not accept a permanent situation
28:55
Speaker 6: in which in which their northern towns are evacuated. However,
29:00
Speaker 6: I also know that has Bala, although it's been firing
29:02
Speaker 6: a few missiles at Israel, it's looking at Gaza and
29:05
Speaker 6: it's saying to itself, well, guess what that's what we're
29:09
Speaker 6: going to look like if we go to war with
29:11
Speaker 6: the Israelis. So there's quite a lot of tense printmanship
29:15
Speaker 6: to come here, Steve, but it certainly is a real possibility.
29:19
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, Thanks for your help as usual, Greg Sheridan,
29:22
Speaker 2: there from the Australia. Now still ahead. Elections are about
29:25
Speaker 2: to kick off across Europe. As we know, is there
29:27
Speaker 2: about to be a seismic shift in political leanings. Nick
29:31
Speaker 2: Cata joins us live from Europe and next, as the
29:34
Speaker 2: government looks to rain in the number of migrants coming
29:36
Speaker 2: into the country, they're failing to harness the skills needed
29:40
Speaker 2: to fix our housing crisis. More on that to come.
29:48
Speaker 2: Welcome back Step Price in for Peter Cretlin talking about
29:51
Speaker 2: things military and defense. It is the eightieth anniversary tomorrow
29:55
Speaker 2: of the D Day landings. Try and cross to France tomorrow.
29:58
Speaker 2: I was on the beach of Normand on the fiftieth
30:02
Speaker 2: anniversary of D Day. Boy, that time's gone quick. We'll
30:04
Speaker 2: see what we can do tomorrow. Now we all know
30:06
Speaker 2: Australia is in the grip of a housing crisis. It's
30:09
Speaker 2: one of the biggest issues the government has to deal with.
30:12
Speaker 2: The federal government is on track to fall well short
30:15
Speaker 2: of its goal, which always seemed to me to be
30:18
Speaker 2: an impossible dream, to build one point two million new
30:22
Speaker 2: homes by mid twenty twenty nine. Now planning bottlenecks, you've
30:25
Speaker 2: got soaring material costs, and you've got to lack of
30:28
Speaker 2: Tradees have all been blamed, but as building companies continue
30:31
Speaker 2: to go into liquidation, one seems to fall over just
30:34
Speaker 2: about every day. We're also running out of people to
30:37
Speaker 2: actually do the building. And if you thought skilled migrants
30:40
Speaker 2: might be the answer, most of us would think that
30:42
Speaker 2: would be sensible. Well, the government seems to disagree incredibly,
30:46
Speaker 2: leaving plumbers, builders, engineers off a list of skills for visas.
30:52
Speaker 2: But there's better luck if you're a dog handler, or
30:55
Speaker 2: you make jewelry or you're a yoga teacher. Doesn't make
30:58
Speaker 2: any sense I'm joined now by Master Builders Australia CEO
31:02
Speaker 2: Danita warned Danita, this seems unbelievable. The very skills the
31:07
Speaker 2: government needs to overcome this housing crisis, people like brick layers.
31:12
Speaker 2: I heard a roof Plumber on radio today. This advisory
31:16
Speaker 2: body Jobs and Skills Australia doesn't see as much value
31:20
Speaker 2: as having a yoga instructor in the country.
31:22
Speaker 1: How can that work.
31:25
Speaker 14: Only in Canberra? Is or I can say, Steve, It's
31:27
Speaker 14: quite incredulous, isn't it. And I think the Yoga Association
31:31
Speaker 14: came out today saying there's too many yoga instructors. So
31:35
Speaker 14: I don't know where their data is coming from, but
31:37
Speaker 14: it's certainly not consistent with any of the data that
31:40
Speaker 14: we're seeing. And we know that we need another ninety
31:45
Speaker 14: thousand trainings in ninety days to have any chance of
31:50
Speaker 14: building one point two million homes over the next five years.
31:55
Speaker 14: The biggest reason, while we're having a forty percent increasing
31:59
Speaker 14: costs of arding it at the moment, is predominantly because
32:02
Speaker 14: of a shortage of skilled workforce. So we know we
32:07
Speaker 14: need to employ more Australians, we need to get more
32:09
Speaker 14: in apprenticeships, but skilled migration is a critical short term solution.
32:14
Speaker 14: So I am absolutely perplexed as to how we got
32:19
Speaker 14: on the maybe list as opposed to the definite list.
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Speaker 1: Danita. It just makes no sense.
32:25
Speaker 2: I mean if you think about it in a practical way,
32:29
Speaker 2: you know, if you've got a skilled up brick layer
32:32
Speaker 2: or skilled up roof tyler, or a plumber or a
32:35
Speaker 2: sparky living in the UK with a young family who thinks,
32:38
Speaker 2: oh well, it might be a nice thing to go
32:41
Speaker 2: and spend a few years in Australia, why wouldn't you
32:43
Speaker 2: make it easy for those people to come here.
32:47
Speaker 14: Well, common sense would say that, Steve. But I've been
32:51
Speaker 14: around industry associations for thirty odd years and common sense
32:56
Speaker 14: doesn't prevail all that often in camera. And this is
32:59
Speaker 14: another yet beauty of a decision.
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Speaker 13: The big issue for us is that.
33:05
Speaker 14: We're in an international competitive environment at the moment.
33:09
Speaker 13: Both the UK and.
33:10
Speaker 14: Canada have very much made it so much easier than
33:14
Speaker 14: we do to attract tradees. Canada's got the best system
33:18
Speaker 14: where they are having an express visa category just for trainings.
33:23
Speaker 14: You can do your gap training and all sorts of
33:25
Speaker 14: things in Canada. We make it so incredibly hard. I
33:29
Speaker 14: don't know about you, but I meet many an uber
33:31
Speaker 14: driver that would love to be working in our industry,
33:33
Speaker 14: but that costs too much and takes too much time
33:37
Speaker 14: to get their skills assessed and gap training, and the
33:40
Speaker 14: list goes on. So we've got to be making it easier,
33:43
Speaker 14: not harder. So it just does not make sense.
33:47
Speaker 2: You're in my old hometown of Adelaide, I mean Melbourne tonight.
33:52
Speaker 2: Are you seeing in South Australia people with skills in
33:56
Speaker 2: construction being sucked out of South Australia because of these
34:00
Speaker 2: massive infrastructure projects that are taking place, particularly in Victoria.
34:06
Speaker 14: Unfortunately, save we're seeing a huge number of skilled workforce
34:10
Speaker 14: around the country going into mining, going into infrastructure. I've
34:15
Speaker 14: even heard of stories of tradees in commercial industry going
34:21
Speaker 14: into the residential sector because in some instances the RESI
34:25
Speaker 14: builders are paying more than commercial, which is very unusual
34:29
Speaker 14: and it just shows the problems that we are facing.
34:33
Speaker 14: You talked earlier about insolvencies. It's in part the reason
34:36
Speaker 14: why we're having insolvencies. Fixed price contracts mean that the
34:40
Speaker 14: builder is bearing the brunt of skyrocketing costs of labor,
34:44
Speaker 14: and we're also seeing a situation in which good builders
34:48
Speaker 14: are now saying, no, I'm not going to tender for work.
34:51
Speaker 14: I can't guarantee what price I'm having to pay for
34:55
Speaker 14: labor if I can find labor in the first place.
34:58
Speaker 14: That means a lack of investment in the industry, which
35:01
Speaker 14: is detrimental and totally contradictory to the outcomes we're trying
35:05
Speaker 14: to achieve.
35:08
Speaker 2: We see the PM's ten billion dollar affordable housing for
35:11
Speaker 2: low income families. They've paid twenty four million dollars to
35:14
Speaker 2: external consultants and six million in executive salaries in the
35:19
Speaker 2: past year and they haven't built a single home. I mean,
35:23
Speaker 2: how angry should we be about that?
35:27
Speaker 14: Well, there's always that issue, isn't it about It's taxpace money,
35:31
Speaker 14: it's our money. I know that Housing Australia have just
35:34
Speaker 14: had a first round of offers. It was oversubscribed. So
35:40
Speaker 14: we're hoping as an industry that that money starts hting
35:43
Speaker 14: the ground because as the economy is still at high inflation,
35:49
Speaker 14: we saw construction today down yet again on our productivity numbers.
35:55
Speaker 14: Private investment, whether it's mum and dad investors right through
35:57
Speaker 14: to large investors, are simply not spending money on construction.
36:01
Speaker 14: At the moment, the dollars do not stack up, so
36:04
Speaker 14: we desperately need a government investment. While we sought out
36:09
Speaker 14: the problem in the economy to actually get a private
36:12
Speaker 14: investment in the housing industry and in building generally, back
36:17
Speaker 14: up and scratch, because otherwise we're not going to meet
36:19
Speaker 14: that one point to government funding ain't going to cut it.
36:24
Speaker 2: Daniti, You're doing a great job. Thank you very much
36:26
Speaker 2: for your time tonight. Now coming up words with Kel
36:29
Speaker 2: Richards will have more words and phrases you didn't even
36:32
Speaker 2: know existed. But up next my panel looks at the
36:35
Speaker 2: government's failure to improve both billing in Australia.
36:43
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Credlin.
36:44
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Peter's Wednesday Night panel, Shadow Environment Minister
36:48
Speaker 2: Jonathan Dunham and senior fellow at the Menzies Research Center,
36:52
Speaker 2: Nick Cator. Gentlemen, thank you very much for your time.
36:55
Speaker 1: Nick.
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Speaker 2: Your backdrop indicates to me that you're not in Sydney.
37:00
Speaker 2: Looks like you're in a beautiful part of Europe. I
37:02
Speaker 2: mentioned just before that tomorrow mark's the eightieth anniversary of
37:06
Speaker 2: the famous D Day landings in Normandy. Must be quite
37:10
Speaker 2: special to be in Europe at this time.
37:14
Speaker 15: There's a lot going on. We've got the European Championship football,
37:17
Speaker 15: we've got the Olympics in Paris. It's not what I'm
37:20
Speaker 15: here for, by the way, Steve. I'm here as a
37:22
Speaker 15: visiting fellow here at the Danube Institute in Budapest in Hungary.
37:26
Speaker 15: But the big thing immediately is the European elections. Voting
37:29
Speaker 15: kicks off in some countries tomorrow. We should have the
37:32
Speaker 15: results by midnight here on Sunday night, breakfast time in
37:36
Speaker 15: Sydney on Monday morning, and they're expected to show a
37:40
Speaker 15: significant move to the center right. In fact, there will
37:42
Speaker 15: probably be a conservative majority in the European Parliament, I
37:46
Speaker 15: think for the first time ever, and that's very significant.
37:49
Speaker 15: A course, when it comes to climate change, energy and immigration.
37:54
Speaker 2: What country's neck would be driving that push to the
37:57
Speaker 2: center right.
38:00
Speaker 15: It's right across the board, Steve. This is interesting that
38:03
Speaker 15: it's the drain the swamp moment. One Hungarian politician described
38:08
Speaker 15: it to me as at the moment and it's people
38:10
Speaker 15: they've just had enough of Europe and it's games over
38:13
Speaker 15: climate change and immigration and so here in Hungary, of course,
38:17
Speaker 15: it's very strong. The Fedez party is in power, and
38:20
Speaker 15: they'll get very strong center right contingent of here. But
38:23
Speaker 15: you can see it in Germany, you can see it
38:25
Speaker 15: in Sweden, Holland just about anywhere you look. There will
38:28
Speaker 15: be extra conservative MPs and fewer green and fewer left MPs.
38:32
Speaker 15: So all round, if it lives up to expectations, it'll
38:36
Speaker 15: be a very very good day for Europe.
38:40
Speaker 1: Jonathan, how jealous are you of that background?
38:42
Speaker 2: And given you your shadow portfolio, do you believe that
38:45
Speaker 2: push that Nick is revealing there for us that might
38:49
Speaker 2: happen in the EU is going to be replicated here,
38:53
Speaker 2: perhaps in a federal election.
38:56
Speaker 16: Well, firstly, I am jealous. I think that looks like
38:59
Speaker 16: a beautiful place to be, although can I say Hobart
39:01
Speaker 16: is spectacular this time and any time a year for
39:03
Speaker 16: what watching that tonight? But I think common sense always
39:09
Speaker 16: prevails in any election anywhere in the world, except for
39:13
Speaker 16: the ones where corruption reigns supreme. My wife comes from
39:16
Speaker 16: Albania and the electoral system there has been under immense
39:20
Speaker 16: pressure from corrupt forces, and so it will be pleasing
39:24
Speaker 16: to see the results that Nick's predicting in the European
39:28
Speaker 16: parliamentary elections. But I hope it goes further than that.
39:31
Speaker 16: And you know, we see some common sense prevail here
39:34
Speaker 16: in future elections in Australia as well.
39:38
Speaker 1: Nick.
39:38
Speaker 2: We saw Nigel Farage had a milkshake thrown all over
39:42
Speaker 2: him on day one of the campaign. He handled it
39:45
Speaker 2: in the normal way that he does. How do you
39:48
Speaker 2: think this reform UK party for that election is going
39:52
Speaker 2: to fare? And how popular can you engage? How popular
39:55
Speaker 2: Farage actually is? We know how popular he was during Brexit,
39:59
Speaker 2: but is he He's still a figure there that has
40:01
Speaker 2: has got some clout.
40:05
Speaker 15: He certainly is an in Clacton in Essex. Clacton on
40:08
Speaker 15: Sea where he's standing was a very strong Brexit vote there,
40:11
Speaker 15: I think the second highest in the country. So and
40:14
Speaker 15: look he's taken his time before announcing right. Originally he
40:17
Speaker 15: was going to stand in Hartlepool in the northeast, Peter
40:20
Speaker 15: Mandelson's old seat for Labor if people.
40:22
Speaker 9: Know that seat.
40:22
Speaker 15: But he's decided to go for Clacton at the last minute,
40:27
Speaker 15: and I think that indicates he thinks says something on
40:30
Speaker 15: It's a big challenge, of course under the British system
40:32
Speaker 15: to overturn the two party system under the first past
40:36
Speaker 15: the post, but I think he's got a chance.
40:40
Speaker 2: Jonathan Ire watching question time today. I mean it was
40:43
Speaker 2: just three months ago you had Health Minister Mark Butler
40:46
Speaker 2: Trump and he gave two point one percent increase in
40:48
Speaker 2: bog billing. He said it was a sign the government's
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Speaker 2: landmark budget initiative to triple bog bulling incentives was working.
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Speaker 2: But the department's owned figures were released today and the
40:59
Speaker 2: building rate has gone backwards by four percent in the
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Speaker 2: fiscal year to March. GP clinics also report they've had
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Speaker 2: three million fewer visits this year. You can't get in
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Speaker 2: to see a GP. What's going on here?
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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, and so if the government's own analysis says
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Speaker 16: things are going backwards, you go and look at the
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Speaker 16: independent analysis from groups like our Clean Bill, and it's
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Speaker 16: even worse than that. I mean, the money they've pumped
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Speaker 16: into these GP urgent care clinics has not yielded benefits.
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Speaker 16: And only look I have to look at the example
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Speaker 16: here in Tasmania. We've got these GP urgent care clinics
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Speaker 16: in built up urban centers. But if you live on
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Speaker 16: the east coast in Saint Helens or on the west
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Speaker 16: coast in Queenstown, you're at least a couple of hours
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Speaker 16: from your nearest urgent care clinic. Because this government has
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Speaker 16: put all their eggs in that basket and not funded
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Speaker 16: and incentivized the training of GPS and placement in regional communities.
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Speaker 16: This CANDRA based solution that they've come up with is
41:56
Speaker 16: not helping Australians access the health care they need. Right
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Speaker 16: across Australia, the examples are the same, and frankly, the
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Speaker 16: only people that miss out are the people whose primary
42:05
Speaker 16: health care concerns are not being dealt with by this government.
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Speaker 9: Nick.
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Speaker 2: We're talking to the Master Builders just then about the
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Speaker 2: housing crisis in Australia and we discover incredibly the visa
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Speaker 2: system to come into the country's skilled visas. They're not
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Speaker 2: even putting people like builders, brick layers, roof tilers on
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Speaker 2: that list, but they're putting yoga teachers on there. I mean,
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Speaker 2: housing is such a mess in this country. I am
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Speaker 2: pleased to say though the South Australian government is abolished
42:32
Speaker 2: stamp duty for first home buyers on new properties. That'll
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Speaker 2: say people around fifty grand on a seven hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars home. Nick stamp duty has been labeled
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Speaker 2: Australia's most inefficient tax. It really is something that should
42:47
Speaker 2: be looked at nationally by the federal government. They should
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Speaker 2: get the states in and say, look, let's get rid
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Speaker 2: of this so we can help young people get into housing.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think so, Steve. I mean, it's a very
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Speaker 15: perverse tax, isn't it. And it has all sorts of
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Speaker 15: averse influences, not least of which is keeping young people
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Speaker 15: out of the home market. So I think this is
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Speaker 15: a good move. The question is what do you replace
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Speaker 15: it with, because you can't. Unfortunately, we can't sort of
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Speaker 15: win politicians off their spending habit. They're gonna have to
43:15
Speaker 15: get the money from somewhere.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 15: Some places, like the Act have done it by sticking
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Speaker 15: it all on the council rates or the equivalent of
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Speaker 15: the council rates, and that's a huge impost on Act
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Speaker 15: homeowners every quarter. So let's work out where we're going
43:29
Speaker 15: to do it. But it's certainly a tax that's very
43:31
Speaker 15: inefficient and brings huge windfalls incidentally to state governments when
43:35
Speaker 15: the housing prices are going up, so they've got an
43:37
Speaker 15: incentive not to build more houses, so they send the
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Speaker 15: prices up. It's just all wrong.
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Speaker 2: So I can't get over that background, Jonathan, this direction
43:48
Speaker 2: nine to nine drummer Andrew Jarles, have you ever seen
43:52
Speaker 2: a bigger stuff up than what's happened with this direction
43:55
Speaker 2: nine in nine, we've now got to mate of Tony
43:57
Speaker 2: mop Bells, a major Melbourne gang lend figure, cused of
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Speaker 2: having strong ties to mock Bell. He had his visa
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Speaker 2: cancelation overturned. He's a Multese national. He's going to be
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Speaker 2: spared deportation when he's released from jail.
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Speaker 1: This is a horrible mess, a horrible mess.
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Speaker 16: Is an understatement and protection racket like never seen before.
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Speaker 16: I mean, this minister, having blamed his department, blamed the administrative,
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Speaker 16: the pills tripe, blamed the previous government, has borne no
44:27
Speaker 16: responsibility for anything but on his watch over one hundred
44:30
Speaker 16: and fifty serious criminals roaming the community, many of which
44:34
Speaker 16: under no supervision or monitoring whatsoever. That one job they
44:38
Speaker 16: have to keep the community safe. He is a busially
44:42
Speaker 16: failing at and the fact that he educt and wheed
44:45
Speaker 16: and dodged questions on this issue for so long and
44:47
Speaker 16: only now he's seeking to reverse this direction ninety nine.
44:51
Speaker 16: I think is enough of an admission that he got
44:53
Speaker 16: it wrong and now he has to resign and if
44:56
Speaker 16: he won't, the Prime Minister must sack him. Otherwise this
44:59
Speaker 16: governm does not understand what the responsibility it has and
45:03
Speaker 16: therefore really we are in a world of trouble.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to be shown the door.
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Speaker 2: Nick Cator enjoyed Budapese, Jonathan dunheam, thank you very much
45:12
Speaker 2: for your time the milkshake. Go and have a milkshake
45:16
Speaker 2: on to pay tribute to Niger Faras. Now coming up
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Speaker 2: after the break, I'll be joined by the fabulous Kel Richards.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to time to check in with my old
45:29
Speaker 2: mate broadcaster and word smith Kel Richards, and learn something
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Speaker 2: new on this Wednesday night.
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Speaker 1: Great to see you.
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Speaker 2: Again, Kel. Now, I know you would never have accused
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Speaker 2: me of being either a sticky beak or a nosy Parker.
45:41
Speaker 2: But Carol asks about the origins of sticky beak and
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Speaker 2: nosey Parker.
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Speaker 17: What can you tell us, Well, sticky Beek's pretty straightforward.
45:49
Speaker 17: The nice thing about sticky beak is it's an Australian coinage.
45:52
Speaker 17: We came up with this one. This is one of
45:54
Speaker 17: our words for the world Comite around nineteen fourteen. It
45:57
Speaker 17: just comes to the fact that the beak for a
45:59
Speaker 17: long time been a synonym for nose, and so it
46:03
Speaker 17: just attacks those people who stick their noses where we
46:06
Speaker 17: don't want them to stick them. Nosey Parker, on the
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Speaker 17: other hand, is British from about eight ninety and there
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Speaker 17: never was an original person named Parker. There have been
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Speaker 17: lots of stories over the you're saying it was this
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Speaker 17: Parker or that Parker.
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Speaker 9: All of them are untrue.
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Speaker 17: Parker was rechosen as a kind of generic proper name,
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Speaker 17: and then this quality was stuck onto them as mister
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Speaker 17: nosey Parker.
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Speaker 9: So there's those two.
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Speaker 1: Steve, it won't surprise you.
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Speaker 2: I've been called a lot worse than nosey Parker and
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Speaker 2: sticky beak over.
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Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, I don't believe it.
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Speaker 1: Now. I would never pull your leg.
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Speaker 2: Tony wants to know where did that originate from and
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Speaker 2: would it be acceptable in today's climate.
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Speaker 17: Yes, to say it, because it's meant to be a
46:53
Speaker 17: kind of fun expression and it's playful.
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Speaker 9: It's a humorous deception.
46:58
Speaker 17: That kind of thing recorded for eighteen fifty two, So
47:01
Speaker 17: it hasn't been around all that long. There are lots
47:04
Speaker 17: of stories about where it might have come from. None
47:07
Speaker 17: of them sound realistic. One of the stories is, back
47:10
Speaker 17: in the days when they were public hangings, the friends
47:12
Speaker 17: of the accused would actually, as the person was hung
47:16
Speaker 17: grab their legs and pull on them so that they
47:18
Speaker 17: would asphyxiate.
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Speaker 9: Quicker and get it over and tell them it's quicker now.
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Speaker 17: But how can you get from that to something which
47:24
Speaker 17: is a jape and a deception and a bit of
47:27
Speaker 17: fun and playful. So lots of stories about it, but
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Speaker 17: this is one where the experts have confessed to the end.
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Speaker 9: We don't know, Steve, we don't know everything.
47:38
Speaker 2: My mate Ross Greener was complaining about Sydney's rain across
47:41
Speaker 2: the weekend, couldn't play golf. A few people heard the
47:44
Speaker 2: term raining cats and dogs. Rosmond wants to know where's
47:48
Speaker 2: that come from?
47:50
Speaker 9: Started out as a joke. Back in medieval England.
47:53
Speaker 17: There were open gutters, open drains that flowed right down
47:56
Speaker 17: the middle of the street, and in towns and villages
47:59
Speaker 17: and cities there were lots of stray cats and dogs,
48:03
Speaker 17: and if there was a big downpour then a few
48:05
Speaker 17: of them would die. And their bodies would be drifting
48:08
Speaker 17: down the gutter in the middle of the street, and
48:11
Speaker 17: as a joke, people would say, ah, look at that
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Speaker 17: in the drain. It must have been raining cats and dogs.
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Speaker 17: So it began as a many evil joke, Steve, and
48:21
Speaker 17: for some reason it has just hung around and it
48:23
Speaker 17: is still with us.
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Speaker 2: Makes an absolute sense, as you do always, Kel, I
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Speaker 2: look forward to seeing you next week. That's it for
48:32
Speaker 2: me tonight. I'll be back with you tomorrow night. Now
48:34
Speaker 2: time for the Bolt Report. James McPherson sitting in for
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Speaker 2: Andrew