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Yoreh De’ah 179:5-14. Prohibitions of Divination, Incantations, Torah Verses and Tehillim To Protect or Heal, Amulets, Consulting the Dead · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We are continuing from Simankov.
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  So we're continuing with hey, see if hey, just to point out,
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  so we know there's a minute not to eat nuts on Rosh Hashanah.
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  So it's fine. It's a time not to eat it.
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  Go ahead, don't eat it. However, I would recommend not
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  saying I'm not eating nuts because it might make me do
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  Averos this year and it's certainly a kashash of Venister
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  Deraisa of either Nikhush or Tami.
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  OK, let's read hey inside Koverkova.
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  So the Rambam Shokanara quotes one of the perushin from the
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  Gemara. Others point out the other
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  perush is also a Sir. So what are they?
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  Zo shahadeh lahash mekhabets kayote oh mekhashib the acrabeam
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  yet tushim upar O sheep. What do you do?
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  You say special words abracadabra.
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  You say whatever the words are. You do lahash.
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  That's what it is. It's some kind of incantation in
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  order to gather from the lotion of Kibur Mekhaber.
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  That's why it's called Khover khaber.
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  You're gathering animals, reptiles, whatever, scorpions,
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  anything insects. And so this way you bring them
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  to an area where it will not bother you.
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  OK, OK. The other parish that's also
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  mentioned is also the Vishoni bring.
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  It also is you're saying words to prevent a particular animal
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  not to bite you or insect, reptile not to bite you say
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  using Lahash for that would be yes.
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  OK, let's read about me Shinashko Akhrav.
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  If a scorpion bit somebody, mozer Lokhosh Allah, they feel a
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  bit. Shabbos you're allowed to say
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  words incantations Lahash, you're allowed to say it even if
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  it's on Shabbos. What is that to do with Shabbos?
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  Because the Shah points out we try not to speak too much extra
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  on Shabbos. We try and keep it words of
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  Kedusha, focus on the Kurdish barfu.
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  OK, That's Oraheim Siemenschenzain.
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  OK, the alpha got she in Adavar MO I'll Klum.
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  So the Shah Khanarak Hussein. It doesn't help anything.
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  But we all know the famous Rambam in general, all of this
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  sorcery and divination and incantations, they're all
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  worthless, they're meaningless, they're all lies.
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  And we know, again, it depends which words and who's saying
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  them, but it seems from much of Khazal all the way through down
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  to Shoni Monachronium that they they definitely, if it's done
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  correctly, they definitely have power.
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  Anyway. So he writes, even if they don't
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  do anything for you. Well, Masukan who?
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  And it's dangerous. We're talking about someone who
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  it's life threatening, right? Therefore Ichiru has all said
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  it's mutter, right? Everything is mutter in the face
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  of pikua nefesh except for Algoris Khalvin, Gili Arias and
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  Shiku's dummy. So that's why it's much of a
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  khakil in a sense in this situation today, Shalotti tarif
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  da to Allah, because even for a person losing his mind and going
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  and saying going mad, that's also a level of fish.
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  And therefore it's mutter OK Zain Misha.
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  So this is related to the second pair.
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  She said, hey, if there's an animal, an animal, reptile,
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  whatever it is an insect, it's chasing you and it's you're
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  afraid it's going to bite you and you think to say some kind
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  of a Lahash is going to help you, You're allowed to say it.
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  Why? Because it's Pikuaknavish.
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  Kuaknavish. We say everything is much OK
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  except the big three. Yes, it's the case of
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  Pikuaknavish. OK, let's go on to Khet and
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  slightly similar top a similar topic but with a new and new
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  twist. Let's learn Khet A Lokesh Al
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  Hamaka, a person who is saying some kind of incantations.
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  A person has a wound, has a cut, he has an injury, he has a Maha
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  and a person and we're not talking about picoac nefesh yet.
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  We'll get to there. A regular injury, a regular
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  maka. So then a lokay, she's saying
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  words. Presumably this would be under
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  the violation of Kishu Oh al Hakola, right?
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  Or for somebody who's sick or sinisa rafua and you're using
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  hocus pocus or abracadabra for this, the raw cake, and then you
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  spit via kharka kore pasuk Mina Tara, and then you read a pasuk
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  from the Torah right after you spit.
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  The same would be if you switch the order, you spit and then you
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  say dvartara dwarta pasuk and then you spit, then you saying a
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  pasuk. So 'cause I'll say en lokheilik
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  le olam haba, then you get no portion in the world to come.
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  So what's the issue over here? So if there's a no puzzle
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  involved, the issue issue is we'll call it Kishu.
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  OK, The other issue, right? It might be something else in
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  the puzzle, but let's assume it's Kishu.
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  If the other possibility here, it's a little bit of a separate,
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  it's stuck, it's lumped together, but it's a separate
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  isser. And this is you're saying a
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  passuk with spitting. If you're doing this at the same
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  time, presumably it's an Issa Darabana.
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  It's a right. The spirit of the law might be
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  Dareisa, but I'm not sure if it's really but OK, let's it's
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  because I'll say so. OK, it's it's a bizarion to the
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  Torahs in bizarion to a Kurdish Barkley to his to his the taz
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  points out. Was it the taz or the Shah?
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  I think it was the Taz points out.
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  There's a min hug for some people.
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  I haven't seen it too much by Alainu.
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  Some people actually spit on the floor in the show when they say
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  Alainu, when they when they mention of the going that right,
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  and we bowed down to a so Larique, they spit and then it's
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  everyone. It's obvious to everybody in the
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  room that he's spitting to a for in honor of Azara.
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  He's not spitting on Hashem's name and and all right, it's
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  pretty obvious, right? It's when he says it's for
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  Azara. So then it's OK, that's Madrid
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  points out OK, right. They'll point out a muskeer
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  shame Shamayim al Harakika. That's the Gummar and Sahajan,
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  where there's an isser of mentioning shame Hashem's name
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  or his pasuk when it's with Rakika.
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  OK, however the Nishal Khanar continues to be ain't no Rokek.
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  But if he doesn't do Rokek, then Isura Miha Ika, there's
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  certainly going to still be in isser to to to say to do Lakash
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  even with a pasuk is ASA. Why is that?
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  So that's a separate isser. Darabanan's the best of my
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  knowledge when it comes to say in a passuk Lahashamamaka
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  abracadabra might be Dar Isa, might be an issue of Tamim.
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  But here when it comes to a passuk, it's it's different.
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  It's a separate isser. It's an isser to get Rafuwa from
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  Divri Tara. It's it's because it's a design.
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  You're treating the holy lofty Torah and soaking and you're
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  treating it like like a, a physical item, like a powder,
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  like a pill, like a something simple and physical that you
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  use. That's you know, you're going to
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  put a Band-Aid on a maka. You put an ointment on a maka.
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  That's not a that's not a, that's not a, that's not a God
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  star. Hashem star is so much more
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  greater. So Khazal said it's usser
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  leithrapos mean du Vitara. It's usser together a fua using
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  you know, if a person has an illness, you don't just rattle
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  off a pasak on to the and have in mind for the rafua and there
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  there's an isudarabani and such and let's keep going Haggah.
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  Wait I skipped the EM yeh sakhanat Nefa showed but in all
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  these cases whenever there's sakanas nafashas as we said
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  before, anytime there's any sakana of nafashas anyway hakol
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  mutter. Any way that you could imagine
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  to help? Nahola is mutter except for
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  those three that we mentioned. The big three Kisha is mutter
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  for sakanas nafashas right? Kisha is not a Vadazaar correct?
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  And trans technically, intrinsically it's not.
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  I mean whatever, it depends how you use it.
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  OK I got the yeesh. Omring the koza Enos or alaka
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  shakaria pasuk balasana kodesh. So the Rama writes that some say
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  it's mutter to say to say a pasuk if it's not a national
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  kodesh. But if it's with the Las say in
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  English, say in a different language.
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  So then it's mutter. It says it's not the same design
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  if it's not in Russian, Kurdish, in Hebrew meal the if you're
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  spitting. However, if you're going to spit
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  when you say in English that he says don't do that.
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  You want to say it as a refer the rafua in English, fine, but
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  not don't, don't spit with the plastic colchicane, don't spit
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  with Hashem's name. Now that's like to say God.
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  So anyway, so and it's so that's inappropriate with spitting.
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  But the Shah points out, everyone agrees that when it
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  comes to writing, it's a mutter to erase.
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  If you write God or God or God, whatever, those you're allowed
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  to race. OK.
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  And he says in general, one second.
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  In general, he writes at the end, though, it's good to be
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  Mahmar even with God in English. I'm not sure.
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  We have to look inside. I'm not sure if it's clear if
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  he's referring to or Kika or referring to erasing the name.
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  It might be obvious, but I'm not exactly sure which one he's
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  referring to. But it's good to be Mahmir for,
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  OK, OK. But it says if you need to, you
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  need to. OK, OK, let's see.
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  We are on. OK, we're about to start test.
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  I just want to take a quick point.
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  Let's see here, you know what, let's go on a bit more and then
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  we'll keep reading. Let's keep reading for right
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  now. Tinock, this is tet tinock
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  shanifka. Even a baby that's that's ill or
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  got hurt aim Korean Allah pasuk. You don't walk over the baby and
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  recite a pasuk, right? This is what we just said.
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  That's asur and OK, so that's an insert, presumably dura banana.
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  The ain't manikhina la saifatara.
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  You also don't put a saifatara on him or right next to him
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  because you're doing it with shame, Rafua.
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  And you're you know, you're just use your be literally in the
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  Torah and treating it like a powder or a pill or a Band-Aid.
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  And the Torah is much greater. OK, really.
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  And besides, we all know Rafua comes from Akadish Barfu doesn't
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  come right. Tell me mashemteal e-mail Kasa
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  doesn't come from, you know, waving hands or saying focus,
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  focus. OK, let's read your
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  continuation. Habari mutterly quote Sukim
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  Lahagin Allah Mehmaziki. Now this is in contrast and you
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  were pointing out it's a bizion when it's done for a illness or
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  a maca, some kind of injury. So then it's belittling to the
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  Tara. But Khazal said if the person is
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  healthy and you're just reciting sukim to protect him for a
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  Shamira. So if that's not belittling, if
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  anything, that gives more cover to the Tara.
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  A little bit of a subtle difference.
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  But if it's 'cause I'll say according to if it's to protect
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  somebody from getting in trouble, that's what.
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  OK. All right.
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  And if anything, it shows how important the Tara is.
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  You're olive, right. OK, we'll take a step back when
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  we finish. You bet.
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  Yeah, I understand. So I can go either way.
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  I understand. So OK, that's 'cause I'll
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  recover. I can't explain better.
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  I, I, I definitely see the difference, but I see how you
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  can think otherwise. I hear yedalov limdoddha izor
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  viloko shalov mutter vafilova Shabbos.
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  So you're allowed to measure a belt or and to do say words of
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  Laha Shalav even on Shabbos. So we know Medida is mutter on
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  Shabbos for a for a hole at Zarak Mitzvah, you're allowed to
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  measure and when it comes to lakash, So look in our Ora Kayen
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  Rama writes certainly, and that's what the post came sailed
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  to Khazar over there. Certainly if referring to Pikua
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  Nafesh for sure it's mutter. Otherwise if it's lahash with
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  something baduk, not sure, maybe it's still us unless it's Piku
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  Akhenafish. OK, well we'll move on to your
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  bet Muttar al idrapod. But kamin now once a kabiya is
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  written already and it and you believe it works right, It could
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  even be OK to carry on Shabbos. So that's but that's Soho
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  Shabbos Ayanshah here muttar Ali trapos pikamin affiliation baham
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  shamus if you have kamin and it has shameless of a sham on them.
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  So the inside. So then you're allowed to use it
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  Lurafua. It's already written between
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  mutar alisa kamin shesh baham sukhim and well, let's keep
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  reading. And you're allowed to carry them
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  with you if they have sukhim on it, Vidhav kala Hagen alab shalu
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  yakhala. But here he writes only to
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  protect you that you don't get sick of Allah litropod bahim
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  misheish al Makahol. And then but he says though, but
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  if you're using it for something that's not Biko Akhenafish and
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  it's just as a rafua. So then he says you're not
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  allowed to OK aval likhtov tsukim bekkamin aser.
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  But and you're always allowed to.
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  It's aser to write kamin that's always aser to write.
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  And the taz explains, because it's possible it's going to get
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  you're writing something that might get burnt in the future.
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  If there's a fire somewhere might get ruined and it'll be a
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  bezion to the absukim. What about shame?
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  Shame and absukim are both user says no, right?
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  So that's if it's written, but to go ahead and write it, that's
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  all I understand. OK, fine.
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  Now I just want to point out I before we start Yudh Gamo, which
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  is Durish LMA team, a little bit of a new topic, obviously
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  extremely related using words sookim.
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  So we just, I mean, I think we basically just said just trying
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  to think if I want to add anything, we're good.
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  OK. All right.
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  No, I guess I think we pretty much just said if it's no, if
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  you're using the like you just read it like an incantation.
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  So that's what's user. But if you're learning Sukim, if
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  you're dove, if you're learning and you want a zakhus to come
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  from the learning to be a rafua, you want to dive into a shem.
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  So we know that's, that's, that's the mnig of Klaisel and
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  it's written all over for sure. That's mutter.
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  The mnig is to say to heal him even not only to protect us, but
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  even to give us a rafua. And all this is mutter because
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  it's done. It's you're done.
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  You're you're, you're learning and davening lashaim shamain to
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  Kurdish baraku and through this khus or to learn deray Tara de
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  Kurdish baraku and to get his khus through it.
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  That's what's matter. You allowed a davin to get help.
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  You allowed a davin for a rafua, but it's when you're just
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  reciting the pasa kilo. It's a brainless puzzle.
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  You're not connecting to a kuddish barku and you're just
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  saying the puzzle 'cause if it's a physical item like a pill,
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  that's when it would be us. Many point out that I think of
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  Sternbach also, and Shuvas and nagas, that if you're reciting
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  it, it depends how you are reciting it.
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  You can't recite A to Helen as an incantation, but you can
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  recite it as a Tephela and have in mind that the Tephela should
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  help. I mean, that's that's the
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  general way that most of us understand it.
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  But it becomes a problem if you say Sookie in the order of a
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  person's name. So there is.
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  Can you say Sookie of Tahelen in the order of a person's name?
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  And for Rafua, and we're not talking about sakanas, Nafashios
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  or for anything. So there is there's the Hidas
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  Tehillim which has an absukim, there's Shim Mushtara, Shim
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  Mushtilim, other things that are out there.
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  Shim Mushtara is quoted in the Ramban from from before his
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  time. Some say Shimush Tahilim is from
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  Rab Haigon using letters and absukim and all these different
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  things. So I believe the general mnag of
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  Klaisel that it is mutter because you're you're just doing
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  it in the proper order, but it still has to be Derekhthila.
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  It can't be where you just recite it, you know, next to the
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  person without daubing into a Kadesh Parhu and you think that
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  those words if to hellem are going to bring a rofua.
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  So I think, yeah, I think we'll we'll go on from there.
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  But I think that's pretty much the accepted.
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  OK, let's read Yudgimo. Yeah, no, I'm good, I'm good.
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  Durish al Hamiti Yggimo. Speaking to the dead or asking
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  for the dead vizier. So the example that's given in
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  the Gemara Vizeshammar Evatsmo Vilan Vivace Aqvaros Kadisha
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  Tisha Allah Rua Khatuma person stars himself goes inside the
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  cemetery and he waits for the Rua khatuma to befall on him so
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  that he can get he can find out what's going to be in the
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  future, what's going to be what to do and that is or to ask them
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  for advice from the actual from the dead.
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  So this is clearly that's the Pasakunatara.
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  That's Asaderais. I'll just quotes Rabi Akiva
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  writes the gumar quotes in Salma hey Ambez or quotes this basak
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  we just read this. This Salaha says quotes Rabi
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  Akiva who when he gets to this basak he would cry because he
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  would see how people would starve themselves and deprive
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  themselves. I mean most are nefesh for Rua
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  Khatuma. He says Halavai, we should all
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  be in Maharivats, we should all starve ourselves and in order to
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  receive Rua Sahara, if not Nuvua Kodesh.
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  But he says avante nu guram nu lanu.
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  But because of our sins, either our sins were not most or nefesh
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  or our sins were not. We can't achieve this level,
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  whatever it is, and we'll see. I don't know if I'll get to it
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  today. We'll see more about that, about
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  what we can achieve. Let's do a bit more Udalid.
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  If there's a person who's sick and you are thinking might die,
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  you're allowed to go to him, to this sick person and tell him, I
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  mean, I'm making you make, tell him to make a Shiva.
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  You can ask him to make a Shiva to you, that he shall come to
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  you in a dream after he dies and tell you what's going to be
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  whatever you want to know. So the Shah Khanak writes that
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  smutter while he's alive, according to Shalkhanarak, when
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  he's dead, it seems to be that he pass because it's utter, it's
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  a it's a discussion and he'll be shown him in the Besio safe.
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  But it seems like he's mahamar. But the Rama is Mako.
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  Again, it's not 100% clear. The maybe he's, maybe he's
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  anyways, Vyeshma Tirin afil ahar motel in Eno Mashpiya Gufa shall
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  mate Rak Ruhl. The Rama writes you can even go
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  to you can tell this. You can be Mashbiya, the spirit
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  to tell you when once the body dies.
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  You can not the you can't go to the body, but you can go to the
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  spirit, be Mashbiya to tell you what's happening in Shamaya.
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  And the Shah and the Gras agree with the Rama.