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Biggest questions going into Week 2 | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, September 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com right now. Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time
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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, Ashland, Brian and John here with you
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Speaker 1: as you look forward to Indianapolis Colts coming to town
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Speaker 1: for the first home game of the season. And we
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Speaker 1: now welcome in Stephen Holder with ESPN NFL joining us. Now,
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Stephen, Thanks for joining us, Hey, thanks for
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Speaker 1: having me. Good morning to you. Absolutely all right, take
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Speaker 1: us through what happened Week one. The Colts tie against
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. I want to know what the biggest
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Speaker 1: surprise maybe was in that game. Well, it was surprising
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Speaker 1: apparently two players, some of whom did not realize that
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Speaker 1: you could tie in the NFL. So that was interesting
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Speaker 1: in the locker room, actually explaining the overtime process to
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Speaker 1: some of them. So anyway, that was an interesting diversion.
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Speaker 1: But I think really there wasn't a ton of surprise
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Speaker 1: for me, except I thought in many ways the Colts
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Speaker 1: outplayed the Texans. They just they didn't do the things
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Speaker 1: that it takes to actually put the finishing touches on
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Speaker 1: a win. They moved the ball up and down the
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Speaker 1: field well over five yards of offense, but if you
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Speaker 1: don't stick it in the end zone at the end
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Speaker 1: of those drives, it doesn't quite matter how many yards
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Speaker 1: you get. So I think in many ways we saw
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Speaker 1: what we expected from the Colts. Strong running game, Jonathan
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Speaker 1: Taylor over hunt in sixty yards. Matt Ryan I thought,
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Speaker 1: really efficient in many ways, except with some key mistakes,
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Speaker 1: but overall, definitely an upgrade at quarterback. But they just
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Speaker 1: didn't get the job done and very critical moments. Good morning, Stephen.
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Speaker 1: You know we're saying the same thing this week. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter how you move the ball up and down
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Speaker 1: the field or that you come from behind. If if
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Speaker 1: you don't put the ball in the end zone, if
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Speaker 1: you don't get those red zone opportunities, you're not gonna win. Um.
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting story. I was talking with folks in
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Speaker 1: Atlanta when we were up there in the preseason practicing
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Speaker 1: with him about Matt Ryan, because it's the third straight
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Speaker 1: year you come in with a brand new quarterback and
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Speaker 1: they think that the Colts have it right this time
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Speaker 1: because of the presence of Matt Ryan, who he is
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Speaker 1: as an individual, the way that he carries himself, the
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Speaker 1: way that he leads a team. That that's a building
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Speaker 1: that's had strong quarterbacks and strong leadership it but no
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Speaker 1: lack of identity. Do you sense that from Matters? Is
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Speaker 1: that just part of the Colt's way and he's just
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Speaker 1: fitting in. No, I I do sense it, and I
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Speaker 1: tell you I feel even stronger about it after Sunday
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Speaker 1: despite them not managing to actually get the win. You
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Speaker 1: know that Quentin Nelson, for example, they're they're all pro guard.
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Speaker 1: He told me after the game, he said that, you
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Speaker 1: know he was. He was really just captured by the
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Speaker 1: fact that Matt Ryan, even when the deficit was twenty
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Speaker 1: two three and at that point, I'm thinking they're really
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Speaker 1: gonna lose this game. And Matt Ryan at that point
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Speaker 1: went up and down the sideline to every single guy
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Speaker 1: and got in everybody's space and brought them up and said, look,
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Speaker 1: we are gonna do this, and and I think you
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Speaker 1: maybe expect that from a quarterback. I think in today's
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Speaker 1: day and age, we see guys miked up, and we
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Speaker 1: see the cameras on the sidelines, and we see a
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Speaker 1: lot of that. But I really think it's not just
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Speaker 1: that he does it. There's also a belief when he
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Speaker 1: does it. It's how he does it. And it's the
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Speaker 1: fact that they see it from him throughout the week.
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Speaker 1: They see it him practice, they see it in the
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Speaker 1: meeting room. He just he's a born leader, there's no
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Speaker 1: doubt about it. And he he runs this offense honestly
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Speaker 1: like a CEO. He has just a really interesting way
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Speaker 1: about him. Stephen Um, I'm curious U Jonathan Taylor. There
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Speaker 1: were stories last week about uh, and I know you
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Speaker 1: guys have talked to Frank right about managing carries, and
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Speaker 1: yet it's gonna be hard to manage carries with this
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Speaker 1: guy because he's so good. Uh. How do the Colts
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Speaker 1: balance that when they're really at their best when he's
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Speaker 1: running the football. Well, you saw a great example of
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Speaker 1: the difficulty of that on Sunday because there were some
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Speaker 1: instances in the first half of that game where Jonathan
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Speaker 1: Taylor was one step away from going to the house,
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Speaker 1: like multiple times, and you can see it, and you
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Speaker 1: just kind of had this feeling like, all right, the
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Speaker 1: next one might be the one, and I can imagine
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Speaker 1: that's are very tempting. I don't think they set out
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Speaker 1: to have him run the ball, I believe thirty one times.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that was their game plan necessarily. But
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Speaker 1: you know, the game goes the way the game goes,
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Speaker 1: and well, a couple of things happened. I mean, there
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Speaker 1: were some instances where, uh, they were they were having
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Speaker 1: some some difficulties moving the ball through the air and
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Speaker 1: they were having some efficiency on the ground, so they
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Speaker 1: did that and they just went with the hot hand.
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Speaker 1: And I think when the game is tight and close
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Speaker 1: like that, you kind of have to throw your plans
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Speaker 1: out the window. So if the goal was to preserve
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Speaker 1: him going into the game, then once they got into
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Speaker 1: the game and they saw that that was their the
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Speaker 1: best way of moving the football, then you have to
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Speaker 1: just basically throw out the plans. I think that's what
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Speaker 1: they did, and they said that they would do that
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Speaker 1: when when called upon, and I think that was an
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Speaker 1: instance where it was that's what it was gonna take
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Speaker 1: but yes, over the course of the season, they do
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Speaker 1: want to watch his touches. You don't want your running
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Speaker 1: back well over three touches, excuse me, three hundred carries
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Speaker 1: per season, and he exceeded that last year. And Steven,
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Speaker 1: as we get ready for this game Sunday in Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: we have to talk about this streak now that as
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Speaker 1: many years running of the Jaguars beating the Colts in Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: forcing them out of the playoffs last season in the
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Speaker 1: last regular season game. We all say, on both sides, Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's a new team. They don't think about that. But
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Speaker 1: how much is that on the Colts mine this week? Well,
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Speaker 1: it's probably on their minds because they're gonna hear about it, Okay,
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. They are gonna be inundated
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Speaker 1: with questions about it, with stories, with talk on the radio.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they can't escape. They know what happened,
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Speaker 1: and there's that was a very seismic I think shift
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Speaker 1: in this organization. You know what happened in Jacksonville in January,
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Speaker 1: and there's no way, there's no other way to look
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Speaker 1: at it. I think a lot of it prompted certainly
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Speaker 1: some changes, and it prompted more and change that prompted
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Speaker 1: I think um and an attitude and a focus on
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Speaker 1: this team that they have to take a step and
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Speaker 1: that that's not the kind of game that a serious
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Speaker 1: football team, that one that is that is serious about
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Speaker 1: about doing something in the postseason. That's not a game
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Speaker 1: you can lose to the team with at the time
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Speaker 1: the worst record in the NFL, with everything on the line,
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Speaker 1: and you certainly on paper have I have a considerable
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Speaker 1: amount of talent more than the other team. There's no excuse.
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Speaker 1: And you just can't come back from that by just
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Speaker 1: saying it's just another game. That's just not gonna be acceptable.
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Speaker 1: And so no one from the owner on down has
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Speaker 1: tried to spin it as just another game because it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: And I think that the Colts understand that, and I
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Speaker 1: really think that adds a layer of pressure for this
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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. I don't know how they'll respond to that,
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Speaker 1: but no one can tell me and have me believe
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Speaker 1: that there's not a considerable amount of pressure on on
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Speaker 1: the Colts on Sunday. Yeah, it's certainly a big storyline,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's interesting We've asked you about
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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the running back, and we talked about
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. I mean, I think when you talk
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Speaker 1: with about the Colts, we still tend to talk about
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Speaker 1: offense um. But what they've done on the defensive side
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Speaker 1: of the ball, adding Stefan Gilmore and Yannick and Go
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Speaker 1: and a guy we know in Gus Bradley. Uh, what
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Speaker 1: have you seen from Gus and the way that he
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Speaker 1: has put his own personal stamp on defense? And is
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Speaker 1: there expectations that Leonard is ready to go after his
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Speaker 1: offseason back surgery or is that still day to day. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'll answer the second question first. Leonard is is still
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Speaker 1: t b D And I actually am leaning a little
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Speaker 1: more toward Week three at home against Kansas City. But
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Speaker 1: we'll see you today is Wednesday. It's a big day.
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Speaker 1: We'll we'll learn more later today, but don't count on
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Speaker 1: him just yet. On Gus Bradley and that defense, I
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Speaker 1: really like what they have put together. Now we didn't
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Speaker 1: see I don't think the the ultimate um outcome or
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Speaker 1: or results on on Sunday. I thought they there's still
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Speaker 1: some growing pains and moving to that new scheme and
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Speaker 1: and some of the intricacies that maybe didn't go quite
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Speaker 1: as they expected. There were some coverage issues that I
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Speaker 1: think we're not the product of ability, Uh, they were
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Speaker 1: the product of execution, and so they have to clean
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Speaker 1: that up. If they can do that, then I think
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Speaker 1: you eliminate some of the things that you saw from
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans moving the ball through the air on
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Speaker 1: the ground. Look, the Colts are gonna be good against
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Speaker 1: the run. I think this year of Grover Stewart, their
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Speaker 1: nose tackle, had just some really really impactful place for them.
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Speaker 1: And they've talked all season long or all off season.
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Speaker 1: The Forest Buckner, whose they're All Pro defensive tackle. He's
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Speaker 1: talked about how he loves this system and how it's
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Speaker 1: reminiscent of the one that he played with or played
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Speaker 1: in in San Francisco. So and I think, obviously, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I need to has has certainly embraced this scheme and
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Speaker 1: had success in it with Gustin Jacksonville. So they have
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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to be optimistic about this defense.
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Speaker 1: I think it will have a better showing and show
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Speaker 1: wings as the season progresses. But they've got to knock
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Speaker 1: the kinks out and and kind of get all on
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Speaker 1: the same page, and I don't know that that was
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Speaker 1: the case just yet. It's gonna be an interesting game
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, Colts and Jaguars and Jacksonville. It always is
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Speaker 1: when it's that matchup. Stephen Holder, thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for joining us on Jaguars Drive Time. All Right, you
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Speaker 1: got it anytime See Sunday sounds good, See a Sunday
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Speaker 1: toy We're about Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday. Thank
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Speaker 1: you to Stephen Holder from ESPN covering the Colts for
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Speaker 1: joining us this morning. Let's get right into big things
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Speaker 1: because we have a lot to talk about here on
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Speaker 1: a Wednesday. Big thing one is here we go again
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Speaker 1: the mindset, the narrative that we've been hearing this week
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Speaker 1: of this is the same old Jaguars with the same
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Speaker 1: old struggles. Well, we're here to tell you that there
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Speaker 1: is one big difference with that narrative and that is
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Speaker 1: the head coach who was working to change the narrative
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Speaker 1: that we're hearing this entire week. I don't. I don't
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Speaker 1: because again, it starts with me, you know, And I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna let that creep in our thinking at all.
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Speaker 1: And um, you know, I coached the staff that way
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Speaker 1: to make sure they're positive yet m very critical of
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Speaker 1: the players as well, critical of ourselves and and um,
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Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna let that happen. Big thing too,
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Speaker 1: is he's that guy speaking of changing the narrative Coach
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Speaker 1: Peterson and the players impressed with how Coach Peterson led
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Speaker 1: this team back from a halftime deficit. Tyson Campbell, one
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Speaker 1: of the guys see game the head coaches praises, Yes,
12:03
Speaker 1: especially when you've got to coach this that's one before
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Speaker 1: and you've got a bunch of group of guys that
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Speaker 1: want to win and you know, want to get to
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Speaker 1: where he's been. Uh, and everybody buys in. You know,
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Speaker 1: that just brings us even more coacher and makes us
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Speaker 1: even more hungry. So uh, I think you know, that's
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Speaker 1: that's the coach that we're trying to bring around and
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Speaker 1: just focus on winning, doing everything everything we need to
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Speaker 1: do for winning the little things, you know, whether it
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Speaker 1: be you know, showing up a tire and meetings or
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Speaker 1: doing walkthroughs the correct way. It's just everything, a little
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Speaker 1: every little thing matters. So that's the coaching we're trying
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Speaker 1: to bring in. And big thing three is accountability. Many
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Speaker 1: things to improve this week getting ready to take on
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Speaker 1: the Colts. Penalties, dropped pastes, errant throws, miss tackles, you
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Speaker 1: name it. Both the players and the coaches have to
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Speaker 1: take a step in the right direction this week. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's frustrating, but again I look at I look at
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Speaker 1: myself too and say, hey, can could I have done
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Speaker 1: a better job? You know, uh, putting our guys in situations.
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Speaker 1: But ultimately, you know, um, we're in this together, you know.
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Speaker 1: And and if the plays are there, we asked the
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Speaker 1: players to make them right, and that's that's part of
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Speaker 1: part of our philosophy. Make the plays that that kind
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Speaker 1: of come to you, you know, And and uh, we
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Speaker 1: didn't make enough of those yesterday. They were there, But
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Speaker 1: it's a good film to to correct and learn from
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Speaker 1: and get better in week two. And that is big things.
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Speaker 1: On a Wednesday morning, getting ready for the first home game,
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Speaker 1: of the season, and very interestingly enough, it is against
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Speaker 1: the Colts in this very long streak of the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: beating the Colts here in Jacksonville. And we will talk
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Speaker 1: all about Jonathan Taylor, the running game, the normal things
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Speaker 1: we talked about with the Colts. But Brian, the biggest
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Speaker 1: thing is, you can worry about all of that, but
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Speaker 1: if they don't fix the things that shot themselves in
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Speaker 1: the foot last week, none of that matters. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: the good news is, I mean I saw a player
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Speaker 1: or two that I was concerned about. I went back
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Speaker 1: and watched the table feel a little better about the
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Speaker 1: left ackle spot. I was worried about that, in particular
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Speaker 1: in with the game on the line where he didn't
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Speaker 1: play all that well. Um, but none of these were
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Speaker 1: real talent issues. Now say this, Um, you know you
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Speaker 1: look at some talent. You look at the three wide
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Speaker 1: receivers for the Redskins. I mean, they made game changing
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Speaker 1: plays over and over and over. You need your guys
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Speaker 1: to step up and do that. But across the board,
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Speaker 1: you mean you can fix the dumb penalty onto want
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Speaker 1: smooth that costs you know, four points, gave up opportunity
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Speaker 1: for them to go for a touchdown instead of a
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Speaker 1: field goal. You can you can fix hitting the upright,
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Speaker 1: you can fix a lot of those those things. So
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Speaker 1: now they just have to go and do it. I
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Speaker 1: just want to go back to a big thing one
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Speaker 1: real quick. You know, the online world, the Twitter world
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Speaker 1: that you guys spent a lot of time in. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure they're hammering it's the same old Jaguars, the same
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Speaker 1: old Jaguars, the same old Jaguars. It's not what I heard.
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Speaker 1: I'm out about speaking engagement yesterday Public's last night insurance
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Speaker 1: inspector at the house, and I asked all of them
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Speaker 1: and some of them offered thoughts to me just coming up,
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Speaker 1: and that's what I heard. I heard. It sucks they lost,
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Speaker 1: They still have a ways to go, but that looked
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Speaker 1: like a different team than last year. So oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure that the it's the same old Jaguars narrative
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Speaker 1: that everyone expects is what you get in the outside world.
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Speaker 1: What's the mail bag saying, well, that's the real question.
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Speaker 1: I heard a lot here we go again, and uh,
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Speaker 1: I got I got hammered for it a little bit
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Speaker 1: in the mail bag, people saying, well, how can you
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Speaker 1: not expect fans to be frustrated. We spend all this money,
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Speaker 1: and I get that. I get the frustration. But if
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Speaker 1: you step back from this and look at this game
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Speaker 1: on on Sunday, it was not here we go again.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like here we go again. It feels
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Speaker 1: like that in the score. And I get that's all
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Speaker 1: that matters in the NFL is a score, and if
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Speaker 1: you win, that's the short term. But if you look
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Speaker 1: at the long term, I just keep going back to
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Speaker 1: they gave away eleven points in the red zone. They
15:46
Speaker 1: gave away four points with smooth penalty. They gave away
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Speaker 1: a couple of spots that are really easy to fix.
15:52
Speaker 1: I get that you have to fix it, but I
15:54
Speaker 1: didn't feel at any point in the last couple of
15:57
Speaker 1: seasons like they were close with a tweak. I didn't
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Speaker 1: feel like they were a tweak here, a tweak here.
16:02
Speaker 1: I felt like they were like, you know, there was
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Speaker 1: a man fixed the foundation in the house. Now I
16:07
Speaker 1: feel like maybe you just got a uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: call a guy and fix the pub. When the guy
16:11
Speaker 1: that said, the guy that I was talking to last
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Speaker 1: evening a public said to me, look, I felt like
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Speaker 1: watching that game that a year ago, they would have
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Speaker 1: just cascaded down in the second half and the game
16:21
Speaker 1: would have gotten away from them, and it would have been,
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Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight to three before they scored to
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Speaker 1: make it look more respectable, he said. And I knew
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Speaker 1: in the third quarter that it was a different team
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Speaker 1: because they changed a couple of things. They played a
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Speaker 1: little better, he said. I'd still like to win, but
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Speaker 1: I get that that's just all part of it, and
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Speaker 1: that they need to do things better. But he believes
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Speaker 1: that the coaching staff could, which is what I heard
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Speaker 1: over and over and over yesterday as I was talking
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Speaker 1: to people about it. So um, I like the fact
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Speaker 1: that people are watching it with a sharp eye and
16:50
Speaker 1: not just an emotional one, right, And that goes back
16:52
Speaker 1: to our big thing too with he's the guy. I
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Speaker 1: liked how Coach Peterson we were talking about the silly mistakes,
16:56
Speaker 1: taking the accountability for the penalties and saying that's on
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Speaker 1: us to fix that. But then in the same way,
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Speaker 1: you know, saying, hey, the players got to make place,
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Speaker 1: and we see a multitude of that in week one,
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Speaker 1: that the opportunity was there, they put them in the
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Speaker 1: right position, you gotta make the catch. Well, what he's
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Speaker 1: saying in that. At least what I heard in that
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Speaker 1: was he's not saying, Jill, trust us, We'll get it fixed.
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Speaker 1: What he's saying is, we'll get it fixed because we're
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Speaker 1: going to demand that the players play better, or we're
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Speaker 1: gonna find players who play better. He wasn't just saying,
17:22
Speaker 1: you know, have faith and trust, it's a process, blah
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Speaker 1: blah blah, which is what you hear from a lot
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Speaker 1: of coaches. He was saying, Hey, well, there's a process,
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Speaker 1: and we trust our players, but eventually the time comes
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Speaker 1: where they have to make place and we're getting closer
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Speaker 1: to that point. Night. Doug on Sunday thought they had
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Speaker 1: a good chance to win, and he thought they would win.
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Speaker 1: But I also think leading up to the first game
17:45
Speaker 1: of the regular season he talked a lot about adjustments.
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Speaker 1: I think I think he knew that with this team
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Speaker 1: there was a chance. He even said in the post
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Speaker 1: game there was a chance they could shoot themselves in
17:55
Speaker 1: the foot because they are a young team still coming together.
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Speaker 1: That sometimes what young teams do. You know, they've got
18:00
Speaker 1: to get through that. But the good news is that
18:03
Speaker 1: kind of thing you can get through in one season,
18:05
Speaker 1: in one week when it is a huge talent lift,
18:09
Speaker 1: which I think this team needs more talent to be
18:11
Speaker 1: a great team. But I think it contend with this
18:13
Speaker 1: team if it does the little things that it didn't
18:17
Speaker 1: do on Sunday. It was interesting in post game, Like
18:20
Speaker 1: you mentioned what he said, he told the team the
18:21
Speaker 1: night before that we are going to be our own
18:23
Speaker 1: worst enemy if we allow ourselves to be a very
18:26
Speaker 1: self aware statement that this is a young team. If
18:28
Speaker 1: we're not careful, we will continue to shoot ourselves in
18:31
Speaker 1: the foot. Remember he's been in this league since he
18:32
Speaker 1: came as an undrafted rookie free agent. He has he
18:36
Speaker 1: has seen it all. He's been through it all, winning,
18:38
Speaker 1: losing championships. The whole nine yards. He knows better than
18:41
Speaker 1: any of us what he's got in that locker room. Uh,
18:44
Speaker 1: if you listen carefully to him, you'll probably pick up clues. Yes,
18:47
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the whole ten yards. Again, let's say what's
18:51
Speaker 1: saying the whole nine yards? It ought to be the
18:54
Speaker 1: whole ten yards. You know what you tend for a
18:56
Speaker 1: first time, you bring up a very fair point. We're
18:58
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Speaker 1: o k V and Jacksonville called Hey Joe and our
19:40
Speaker 1: own Joe Fortunate. I used to do it. I was
19:42
Speaker 1: going looking for where did the whole nine yards come from?
19:45
Speaker 1: And he knew it off the top of his head.
19:47
Speaker 1: He is our Cliff Claven. For those of you who
19:48
Speaker 1: mad enough to remember, cheers um. It referred to parachuting,
19:52
Speaker 1: where you need the whole nine yards of the parents.
19:54
Speaker 1: There's nine yards of material and you need it all
19:56
Speaker 1: open to be able to land. That's where the whole
19:59
Speaker 1: nine yards comes from. It's not sports reference at all.
20:01
Speaker 1: They can get to your first down. Well, who would
20:04
Speaker 1: have thunk it? Not me? Or maybe you should start
20:06
Speaker 1: a trend and say the whole ten yard gam Yeah,
20:08
Speaker 1: let's start it Brandon good luck. All right, let's that
20:10
Speaker 1: what you got. Bran who has the bigger job this week?
20:13
Speaker 1: Ben Bart's who has to square off against six ft
20:15
Speaker 1: seven and a half inch to Forest Buckner, who is
20:19
Speaker 1: a game record just a massive player. Or Tyson Campbell,
20:23
Speaker 1: who will probably be tasked with traveling with Michael Pittman,
20:27
Speaker 1: who at six four and two and twenty five pounds
20:30
Speaker 1: is the go to guy. And if you remember the
20:32
Speaker 1: game in um Indianapolis last year, the second touchdown drive
20:37
Speaker 1: in the first half that they had, it was Michael Pittman.
20:39
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, Michael Pittbell's they just kept delivering the bald
20:42
Speaker 1: to him. He's coming off of a game in Houston
20:45
Speaker 1: where he was targeted thirteen times, more than twice any
20:49
Speaker 1: other receiver. So you know you got a body up
20:51
Speaker 1: against this big body. If you're Tyson Campbell, who's got
20:54
Speaker 1: the bigger job? I would say Tyson Campbell after that description,
20:59
Speaker 1: you will get. I mean, I don't think he'll get
21:01
Speaker 1: as much. Hell, I think I'll give Barton help inside
21:03
Speaker 1: you try, but still, I mean, Pittman is one of
21:07
Speaker 1: those guys. He can make you look silly. I oh no,
21:09
Speaker 1: I remember that game. I remember hearing his name over
21:11
Speaker 1: and over and over again and thinking, my gosh, do
21:13
Speaker 1: something put four guys on him. This is still This
21:17
Speaker 1: is a game of matchups, and those are two very
21:20
Speaker 1: difficult matchups. It's why the Colts have the potential to
21:24
Speaker 1: be a a f C South Division title champion this
21:28
Speaker 1: year is because they've got more matchups than most other
21:30
Speaker 1: teams do, and those two guys in particular, I think
21:33
Speaker 1: are the most difficult. Yeah, and Tyson Campbell. I think
21:35
Speaker 1: you can call it a bounce back game for him
21:37
Speaker 1: and sorts. He did have that great interception, and that's
21:39
Speaker 1: what he's great at, but he didn't have that play
21:41
Speaker 1: at the very last drive where the touchdown one above
21:43
Speaker 1: his head, and you know it, Kelt felt on him.
21:46
Speaker 1: Especially on Monday in that press conference. You could help.
21:48
Speaker 1: Remember Matt Ryan is used to throwing to a big
21:50
Speaker 1: receiver in Julio Jones, and if he target him thirteen times,
21:55
Speaker 1: don't be surprised if this week he targets him fourteen times.
21:59
Speaker 1: So Tyson Campbell is going to be tired at the
22:01
Speaker 1: end of that game. Big week for Tyson not even
22:04
Speaker 1: targeting fifteen times. I went, you know, Jaguars versus the
22:09
Speaker 1: Colts in Jack's or the field, And what I meant
22:12
Speaker 1: by this is what's the weirder streak in the NFL
22:15
Speaker 1: over the last six or seven years. I would maintain
22:18
Speaker 1: there is, or is there anything in the entire league
22:21
Speaker 1: that's weirder than this. I would take Jaguars versus Colt
22:25
Speaker 1: as the weirdest streak in the NFL because there's really
22:29
Speaker 1: no reason. The Colts have been the better team all
22:31
Speaker 1: but one year and they have figured out a way
22:34
Speaker 1: to lose this game. Here there's been times j was
22:37
Speaker 1: about played and then there's there's been times it's just
22:40
Speaker 1: been weird. Um. But something Stephen Holder said piqued my
22:46
Speaker 1: interest on this. I think there's a lot of pressure
22:49
Speaker 1: on the Colts in this game, not necessarily because of
22:52
Speaker 1: the streak, and this is, you know, sort of splitting hairs.
22:58
Speaker 1: If they had lost to the Jaguars in weeks six
23:01
Speaker 1: last year and it had been just kind of a
23:03
Speaker 1: normal game, then I think the streak has the oddity
23:07
Speaker 1: feel that it it fell going Toto last Remember last
23:09
Speaker 1: year we talked about a little bit in the last
23:11
Speaker 1: game of the season, but didn't talk about it much
23:14
Speaker 1: Now it's everything, and I don't think it's as much
23:16
Speaker 1: the streak, but I think that was a franchise shaking
23:20
Speaker 1: loss for this team. Uh. Jim Mercy, who is not
23:24
Speaker 1: necessarily a quick trigger guy. He doesn't get involved with
23:29
Speaker 1: the team as much as people think he is because
23:30
Speaker 1: if his dad had a reputation for that. But it
23:33
Speaker 1: shook Jim up. Uh, they changed quarterbacks, they reset the
23:38
Speaker 1: back in front of his plane, and I mean, it's
23:44
Speaker 1: whatever is Jim is or isn't. That's usually not his
23:47
Speaker 1: m O. He usually doesn't get involved like that, so
23:49
Speaker 1: it shok him up. And I agree with Stephen, Usually
23:52
Speaker 1: these things don't affect the team. I feel like with
23:56
Speaker 1: the fact that he was in that last game of
23:58
Speaker 1: the season, not the streak, but that game does have
24:01
Speaker 1: it being impact this week. I can't think of anything
24:03
Speaker 1: weirder in the NFL. But the league told you what
24:05
Speaker 1: they thought of this. I mean, the Jaguars c Carson
24:09
Speaker 1: Wentz the quarterback in that game in Week one, and
24:11
Speaker 1: in week two their home opener, they get the Colts
24:14
Speaker 1: right back here, so they're telling you there's something to it.
24:17
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, remember there was the Jaggers
24:19
Speaker 1: blew the doors off of them, scored fifty points, and
24:22
Speaker 1: and and then there was the game where was Andrew
24:25
Speaker 1: lux final game where they didn't score, where the Jags
24:27
Speaker 1: shut him out here. Uh, and that was not a
24:30
Speaker 1: very good Jacksonville team. Um. In fact, two of the
24:33
Speaker 1: last three season finales have been the Colts losing here. Um. Yeah,
24:38
Speaker 1: it's it's it's strange. Wasn't it you that said that
24:40
Speaker 1: they have the score painting in the locker roo? Yeah?
24:43
Speaker 1: That was the story coming out of the off season
24:46
Speaker 1: was is that Frank Wik wanted to make sure his
24:47
Speaker 1: team was dialed in and understood what can happen if
24:50
Speaker 1: you're not completely dialed in. And so twenty three to
24:53
Speaker 1: eleven is painted somewhere in and around the locker room
24:56
Speaker 1: to remind players it ought to be in their kitchen,
24:58
Speaker 1: because the Jags are in their kitchen. Yeah, alright, mine
25:01
Speaker 1: this or that kind of goes along with that. It
25:04
Speaker 1: is mind games or keep the streak alive. I don't
25:07
Speaker 1: want to say this is mind game, but I think
25:09
Speaker 1: it's incredibly interesting that now Unique and Gockway is on
25:11
Speaker 1: the Colts and just yesterday the Colts tried out Josh
25:15
Speaker 1: Lambeo and matthew Wright reportedly to be their new kicker
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Speaker 1: the week of the Jaguars game. I don't want to
25:22
Speaker 1: call this mind games, but are the Colts trying to
25:24
Speaker 1: do something here? My question is, Brian, will the mind
25:28
Speaker 1: games work? Are the Jaguars gonna win and keep the street.
25:31
Speaker 1: I don't think it's mind game. I think they're desperate
25:32
Speaker 1: for a kicker. Blanket Ship just happened. They cut him,
25:35
Speaker 1: and it just so happens that you know both of
25:37
Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, at one point, Lambeau was the
25:39
Speaker 1: most accurate kicker in the league, and he was a
25:41
Speaker 1: big reason why the Jaguars in seventeen were able to
25:44
Speaker 1: be consistent late in the season and get deep into
25:46
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Um, matthew Wright was a hundred and sixty
25:49
Speaker 1: five pounds last year. Now, I kicked the long field
25:51
Speaker 1: goal to win the game in London, but he can't
25:54
Speaker 1: reach the end zone with his kickoffs, which is why
25:56
Speaker 1: he's not here. Um. I don't think it's a mind
25:58
Speaker 1: game at all. I think they're desperate for some consistency
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Speaker 1: at kicker, and they're willing to go after two guys
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Speaker 1: that have at various moments in their career been able
26:06
Speaker 1: to get the job done. Refresh my memory. Unique has
26:09
Speaker 1: been on so many teams and I can't remember from
26:11
Speaker 1: if he's been here, to Minnesota, to Baltimore to lausch Vegas, Indianapolis.
26:15
Speaker 1: But is this not his first game back? It is
26:16
Speaker 1: his first game back here? Oh boy, is he gonna
26:18
Speaker 1: be fired up? Yeah, that's going to be intriguing. If
26:21
Speaker 1: you'll find a reason to be mad even though nobody's
26:23
Speaker 1: left to be mad at. It'll be a postgame comment
26:26
Speaker 1: for sure. I'm ready for it. All right. That is
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Speaker 1: field today, it is Wednesday. In a big headline this week,
26:49
Speaker 1: knock on what is There are no really injuries we're
26:51
Speaker 1: paying attention to this week? Doug Peterson saying the team
26:54
Speaker 1: is completely healthy going into week two and that's very
26:57
Speaker 1: interesting for Travessy, Tanna James Robinson. Great news on that,
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Speaker 1: so I don't have to pay attention to that. But
27:03
Speaker 1: what do you guys have coming up? This week, Brian,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you just hit me. That wasn't.
27:11
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I wasn't prepared for that. I'm gonna grab
27:13
Speaker 1: Bill Shoey, the outside linebackers coach, later today is he
27:16
Speaker 1: leaves the field for a pregame radio interview, and I'm
27:19
Speaker 1: interested because he coached Khalil mack Um in Chicago and
27:24
Speaker 1: there have been comparisons for Trayvon Walker to Khalil Max,
27:28
Speaker 1: so I'm interested in getting his take on where Walker is.
27:32
Speaker 1: The plan is for Devin Lloyd to be Video Zone
27:34
Speaker 1: podcast guest and I'll be writing, which is what you
27:38
Speaker 1: do enough. Yeah, we joked that coach Showy I think
27:42
Speaker 1: has the best job in the world because he just
27:43
Speaker 1: stays with Traybon Walker and Josh Allen all day. It's
27:46
Speaker 1: just the three of them. Yeah, it's a pretty good job.
27:48
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because Josh never stops talking and
27:50
Speaker 1: Trayvon I don't know that he does talk that much.
27:53
Speaker 1: When he does, he's a lovely balance. He was eloquent
27:55
Speaker 1: on Jaguars All Access last week. I thought he did
27:56
Speaker 1: a great job, but he's quiet and Josh is jabbermouth. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it was that that would be an interesting room to
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Speaker 1: be It's a fabulous balance, I think. And that is
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