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Russ Ortiz recalls Bonds bat rack brawl, 2002 WS + Cody Ross talks LA-SD & NY-BOS rivalries · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hm, former as tease is here. How you doing, I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: I heard you watch a little left tea here and there.
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  Speaker 1: You catch some some f T every once in a while,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, territory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean every anytime that I see it on,
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  Speaker 3: I stopped and and check it out. And uh, I think,
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  Speaker 3: like we were talking about yesterday, just I just love
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  Speaker 3: the honesty, the stories, you know, just the perspective that
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  Speaker 3: you guys have, like, which is which is nice because
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the same perspective I have. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: someone that's not necessarily gonna voice.
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  Speaker 2: Out as much.
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  Speaker 1: So you got your ten minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take it up here, but yeah, it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: come out much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well a j go ahead. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: also introduce him as it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, well you already talked about that from the story
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  Speaker 4: last night. He was the best picture. He was the
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  Speaker 4: first guy face and I was like, oh, that's a
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  Speaker 4: different because he kind of short armed the ball, right
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  Speaker 4: and he just you four seemed cutters and you were
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  Speaker 4: the first guy over face that really had like that
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  Speaker 4: cutter action because most guys.
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  Speaker 2: Were sinker Sinker two seem to seemed down in a way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, then I go to face you and Fresno, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa, I'm gonna have to reevaluate my life
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  Speaker 4: after that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean in college, I found out I have a
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  Speaker 3: heavy ball, you know what they call a heavy ball,
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  Speaker 3: and then I've discovered that, you know, it was cutting
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  Speaker 3: more than I realized, and so they just tell me
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  Speaker 3: you got to just throw that. You gotta keep throwing that,
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  Speaker 3: you know down up in all that stuff got to
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  Speaker 3: the myer leagues went through there, and uh, once I
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  Speaker 3: got to the big league saw how effective that is
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  Speaker 3: even from major league hitters. So when I did come
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  Speaker 3: down in ninety eight, because I wasn't pitching in the
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  Speaker 3: big leagues, they sent me down to make starts, and
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  Speaker 3: I mean I had all the confidence in the world
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  Speaker 3: because I was able to get those guys out and
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  Speaker 3: coming down, you know, I had the attitude of these
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  Speaker 3: guys have no chance. And so I think that was
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  Speaker 3: huge for me because it allowed me to do my thing.
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  Speaker 3: And then once I got back up, I was able
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  Speaker 3: to go right in without having to feel like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I need to prove myself again or anything.
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  Speaker 1: M All right, let's get into the big league career. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: A j where should we start.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, go start San Frank. He came up in ninety nine.
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  Speaker 4: I think he won nineteen. He came up full season,
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  Speaker 4: Ye won eighteen games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good for your first full year
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  Speaker 2: in the big league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then obviously you pitch their pitcher. Pitcher in the
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and two was the highlight or low light,
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  Speaker 4: depending on how you want to look at it, right, both, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: highlight if you guys get into the World Series. The
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  Speaker 4: low light being you were gonna win it. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: then Dusty takes you out. Do you start the ball?
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  Speaker 1: I still have the ball?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you not want to throw it? Like in
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  Speaker 2: the Ocean?
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  Speaker 3: I framed it? Uh No, I framed it. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I took it as something different. I mean Dusty called
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  Speaker 3: me in his office said, hey man, he goes. I
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  Speaker 3: just thought i'd give him on mental memento from the
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  Speaker 3: World Series. Like I've been around this game. Some guys
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  Speaker 3: don't never get there, and some guys get there and
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  Speaker 3: never come back.
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  Speaker 1: And I just want to make sure you had a remembrance.
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  Speaker 3: But I have to believe that everybody thought like that
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  Speaker 3: that ball was going to be something sitting on my mantle,
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  Speaker 3: that was going to be like, yeah, that's the year
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  Speaker 3: we won the World Series, and this is the ball
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  Speaker 3: I got to pitch with, So it wasn't the game ball.
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  Speaker 3: He's just like it was your ball that you pitched with.
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  Speaker 3: So how many guys can actually say that that was
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  Speaker 3: his thinking there? And like I said, I think we
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  Speaker 3: all thought, you know, we were going to win. I
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  Speaker 3: mean we were, we were a good team, so there
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  Speaker 3: was no reason to not think that we weren't going
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  Speaker 3: to win.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe I believe that?
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  Speaker 5: Do you believe they were motivated because you got to
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  Speaker 5: carry the ball off. I've heard so many people say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: we saw it, No chance you saw it, but maybe
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  Speaker 5: you maybe you see it differently.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't see it, No, I asked Troy Glass, Darren
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  Speaker 3: HER's dad, Benjaminlina, all those guys, they never saw They
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  Speaker 3: heard about it. I think one of the players, the
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  Speaker 3: the announcers were talking about it that they, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just he handed me the ball and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The story goes.
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  Speaker 3: Some guy ran down and told another coach and then uh,
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  Speaker 3: I forget who was and he just said, did you
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  Speaker 3: hear that?
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  Speaker 2: Guys?
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  Speaker 3: You know they gave him the game ball and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that, and so but the players actually told me,
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  Speaker 3: which was actually pretty sweet, that they said, we were
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  Speaker 3: pumped because you were out of the game, so that that.
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  Speaker 1: Gave us confidence.
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  Speaker 3: They said, we we thought we had no chance that game,
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  Speaker 3: you know, which is a huge boost for for me
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  Speaker 3: and my confidence, and you know, that was a really
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  Speaker 3: great compliment. But yeah, no, they didn't see it. They
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  Speaker 3: didn't see it, so that was that was made up.
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  Speaker 3: And and they you know, they just got fired up
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  Speaker 3: because they they had a lot of comebacks that year,
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  Speaker 3: Volley Monk, he thundersticks, all that stuff, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: so they had they had a little I felt that
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  Speaker 3: they had a little sliver of a chance at that
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  Speaker 3: point and then they, unfortunately for us, made it happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's like Blake Snell a year later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I've been getting calls every time I started
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  Speaker 3: gets taken out in one of those deciding games and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 3: can we get you get it talk to you and
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  Speaker 3: ask you some questions. And that's that's always, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the thing is, you know, bring it up. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it until Dusty one with the Astros, I would say
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  Speaker 3: that was probably twenty twenty twenty two year period and
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  Speaker 3: I got calls and interviewed probably eighteen of those years.
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  Speaker 3: Every world serious. Yeah, so those guys kind of stopped.
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  Speaker 1: One year later a picture was left in a game
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  Speaker 1: too long though, right, Pedro?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh three, Right that was a year later.
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  Speaker 4: Got to play with Barry. I got to play with Berry.
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  Speaker 4: You got to play with Barry for multiple years, six years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: best Barry Bond story that you have?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, well, what it was my first year. I was
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  Speaker 3: in the bullpen. We were in Pittsburgh and the next
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  Speaker 3: thing you know, one of the relievers comes out and
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  Speaker 3: he said, Barry and Danny Darwin just got in a
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  Speaker 3: fight in the in the at the bat rack and
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  Speaker 3: I guess Danny was pitching and something happened and they
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  Speaker 3: were just John. Danny was John Adam I think, and
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  Speaker 3: and Barry just coming back and they full on fistfight,
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  Speaker 3: like right in front of the batrack. So I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty cool. And nobody got hurt. We got hurt,
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  Speaker 3: but I was just like, that's big league style. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, that's the big league that I guess. I've
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  Speaker 3: always thought thought about him because you see guys taking
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  Speaker 3: guys out at second fights and all that stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: and so that was my first year and like, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's like two two big season dudes, you know, going
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  Speaker 3: at it writing the dugout and you know, but it
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  Speaker 3: was it was just funny. One of the relievers, he's
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  Speaker 3: jogging out there, He's like, check this out.
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  Speaker 1: What I guess?
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  Speaker 3: You never guess what happened? And so and then well
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  Speaker 3: then him and Jeff can't got into it. I was
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  Speaker 3: pitching that day. They were just but there was just
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  Speaker 3: you know, more John. But but I mean the other
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  Speaker 3: stuff is is like, you know, just watching him hit.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was just unbelievable the stuff that he
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  Speaker 3: did one, you know, one of the years, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he never got pitched to, and when he got a ball,
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  Speaker 3: he hit it out and it's just one of the
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  Speaker 3: most amazing things I've ever seen. And but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I he was great to me. It was nice to me,
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  Speaker 3: but uh, you know, didn't really say a whole lot,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Otherwise, the home run the World Series, I mean there's
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  Speaker 4: the famous shot.
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  Speaker 2: Of Artist one. Yeah, I think that was the farthest
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  Speaker 2: one he hit.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, he had won in Yankee Stadium that was. So
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  Speaker 3: I would say either that one or the one in
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  Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium, or the two that I remember the most.
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  Speaker 3: That was just unbelievable because he had won a Yankee Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know right field. I know that's short,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean he hit it triple deck, uh and
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  Speaker 3: just blasted it. So those were the two that I
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  Speaker 3: remember the most. The other ones were good ones, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean nothing that made us in the dugout just
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  Speaker 3: kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Because you expected it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the only guy ever played with that I expected
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  Speaker 4: him to hit a home run now he walked to
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  Speaker 4: the play or like, if they throw him a strike,
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  Speaker 4: he's hitting a home run.
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  Speaker 3: And the other guy, the other guy player was big
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  Speaker 3: Cat Andres Gallawagan. He was the other guy that I
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  Speaker 3: was like, he's going to hit the ball hard and
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  Speaker 3: far all the time. And he almost hit the glove
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  Speaker 3: in uh real center.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's a ball.
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  Speaker 1: That's a ball.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. He hit it right right at the bottom, right
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  Speaker 3: at the so didn't hit the glove, but he hit
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  Speaker 3: where the concourse is.
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  Speaker 2: Did bounce up into the underwear that's up in the glove.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned, you know, Barryon and Jeff Kent Jeff Kent,
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  Speaker 1: in my mind, should be in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: In many minds, I agree when you had two stars,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Barry's on another level, but but Jeff was
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  Speaker 1: a superstar player. When you have those two jawing, does
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  Speaker 1: anyone try to go to Jeff like, like, let's just
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  Speaker 1: leave him and let him do his thing, even if
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: you guys disagree, You guys would just let them go
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  Speaker 1: at it.
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  Speaker 3: At first, I think everybody was just like, let him
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  Speaker 3: go at it. Yeah, I mean, I think it's one
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  Speaker 3: of those things is good for the for the team,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to see someone challenge Barry, you know. I
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  Speaker 3: mean I don't think they were going to actually fight.
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  Speaker 3: I think they were just going to get in each
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  Speaker 3: other's face. That's that's what happened. But you know, I
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  Speaker 3: remember Dusty came over and pulled Jeff away and he
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  Speaker 3: was hot. But I think for us as a team,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, this is that was a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: That was a good thing to see. You know, someone
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  Speaker 3: like Jeff, who you know, he wasn't an outspoken leader,
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  Speaker 3: but he came to play every day. He played hard,
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  Speaker 3: and he did his job very well. And so he
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  Speaker 3: did he did his work on the field, and so
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  Speaker 3: it was good to see that, see that he was
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  Speaker 3: gonna challenge him.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of Jeff, were you there when he fell off
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  Speaker 4: the car and his wrists. I was on the team
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  Speaker 4: and he was washing his washing his car. I was
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  Speaker 4: on the team when I heard heard about it and
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  Speaker 4: he came in. They said that he hurt his wrist,
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  Speaker 4: and then eventually hear how happy it was, and so
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  Speaker 4: all right, man, I guess you know that's his story
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  Speaker 4: and looking to it.
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  Speaker 6: And he stuck to it. Credit he did stick to
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  Speaker 6: it for a long Car washing can be very dangerous. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: careful out there, kids, you can slip, very careful. You
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  Speaker 6: hurt your wrist for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that was the story that they can do it.
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  Speaker 1: When you watch the game, Now, what do you love
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  Speaker 1: about it? And what do you not love about it?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I love seeing seeing guys throw throw that hard.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's really cool, and see how they
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  Speaker 3: spin it and everything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's.
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  Speaker 3: A a lot of people. What I hear is a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people say that, you know, these are these
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  Speaker 3: players are more athletic than than ever. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: if you go back and watch video of you know,
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  Speaker 3: guys before we even played the plays that they're making,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean sacrificing their bodies, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff. I'm like, yeah, some pretty speedy guys,
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  Speaker 3: athletic guys, guys that just do a lot of great
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  Speaker 3: things and uh, guys pictures that can throw all day
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  Speaker 3: and so so I hear that, I'm like, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: come on, we can't just count you know, uh, the
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  Speaker 3: you know, the older generation, you know players, but but
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys are just you know, very
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  Speaker 3: very athletic and skilled, and I'd like so I'd like
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  Speaker 3: to see them do a lot more, you know, with
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  Speaker 3: with speed, taking extra bases, you know, moving guys over
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  Speaker 3: and stuff at at certain times. But I mean that's
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  Speaker 3: a part going into what I guess I don't care
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  Speaker 3: about the game. Is I see a lot of pitchers
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  Speaker 3: just throwing the ball right down the middle of the
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  Speaker 3: plate and guys swinging and missing. I'm like, how how
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  Speaker 3: are they missing these pitches? I mean, I know they're harder,
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  Speaker 3: you can tell me more so, yeah, I mean, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean if you're consistently swinging under under under under,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, at some point, don't you think, yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: that's that's the part. I'm just like, I just don't
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  Speaker 3: get it, you know, I don't get that part. And
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  Speaker 3: I see a lot, just a lot of pictures. In
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, they're not trying to set up guys get
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  Speaker 3: them out in three pitches. I mean, we have here
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  Speaker 3: at the pro you know, arguably one of the best
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  Speaker 3: pitchers I ever lived, and Greg Maddox said, I want
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  Speaker 3: action on three pitches. He wants to get guys out
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  Speaker 3: in three pitches. And I'm like, you know, that's not
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  Speaker 3: even I don't even think that's even a thought at
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  Speaker 3: this point or unless they say I'm going to try
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  Speaker 3: to get three swings of missus right with ye. So
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  Speaker 3: so it's just that stuff. I mean, I I like
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  Speaker 3: guys that use the bat, that hit the ball right field,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you when they go just going with
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  Speaker 3: the pitch and stuff getting on base, because you're still
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  Speaker 3: getting on base, you know. So so I'd like that
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  Speaker 3: and the fact that the game doesn't have pitchers hitting
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  Speaker 3: in that whole thing. I love the strategy of all that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, where teams had to figure out double switches
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  Speaker 3: and who you know, how how long we're going to
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  Speaker 3: let the pitcher go, are we going to let the
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  Speaker 3: pitcher hit?
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  Speaker 2: Switching?
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  Speaker 3: So when you're on the mound there and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: as a pitcher, and you're you're trying to figure out like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what's the manager gonna do here? Is he gonna let
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  Speaker 3: this guy go or pinch hit? Then who are they
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  Speaker 3: going to pinch hit? And then so you're you're having
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  Speaker 3: to figure out the matchups and beforehand, you're doing all
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  Speaker 3: the work to figure out who would they pinch during
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  Speaker 3: that time? And then then they throw a guy out
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  Speaker 3: there and you're ready to go, and so it's just
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  Speaker 3: that strategy stuff, and you know, there's just a lot
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  Speaker 3: more movement parts. I think that I really loved about
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah all right, so you played Oklahoma won the national
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  Speaker 4: championship in nineteen ninety four. You're a big Sooners fan.
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  Speaker 4: I check your Instagram. You're always you know, owe you this,
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  Speaker 4: owe you that. But oh you had their welcome to
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  Speaker 4: the SEC moment this year in football. So now they're
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: in big boy football.
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  Speaker 2: There's no more.
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  Speaker 4: Big age, little twelve, whatever they want to call it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I think they can handle the SEC. It means more
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: down there, it does mean more.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: It's it's a lot more exciting, I can tell you that.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's like, besides the non conference, there's no
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: up and so so everybody's excited about it. But this year,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are gonna I don't
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: want to say surprise, because Oklahoma football you.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Can't run anymore.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah that I think Barry Sisters has recently said
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: that if anyone did that, no one would know how
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: to even defend it. But yeah, I don't want to
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: say be surprised, because I think everybody expects Oklahoma football
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: to be good. So so I think this year, though,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: they will be good. Vena Boles has their defense where
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: he wants it. Last year they showed like what they
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: could really do, you know, defensive wise, and unfortunately they
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: just didn't have much of offense. You know, a lot
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: of guys hurt but just didn't get it done. So
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: so it was really really tough. But that game they've
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: played against Alabama showed like what kind of defense they
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: really have. And this year new offense, quarter coordinator, a
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: great quarterback and jo Mattier coming from Washington State who
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: put up some huge numbers and so so I think
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: this year and A lot of just like a lot
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: of other people. They said that they think that Oak
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: is gonna be one of those sleepers that you know
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: you'll see in the playoffs.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: By the way, the most famous guy on that team,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: the ninety four Oklahoma team, isn't you is a Mark
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Redmond who I played with, came up with isn't the
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: minor brothers who I played with?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: It's Tim Walton, the softball coach.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: How the heck do you go from being a college
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: fitcher to the freaking softball coach whin's national championships.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yea, Patty Gasso wanted a baseball guy at you know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Patty gassa head coach Olkahomos. She wanted a guy with
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: a baseball mind. And I think she was really one
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: of the first ones in.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Softball to.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Uh think in baseball terms as far as athletes, as
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: far as situation, as far as hitting, you know, just
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the mentality. And so she wanted a baseball guy. And
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and Tim was your guy. Now that he went every
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: year wins. Every he went to OU, they won. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: think he was there their first national championship. He got
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a job at Wichhall State, turned theirs around, went to
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Florida turned their program around, and he's won a couple
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: uh national championships and always in the College World Series
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and it's just yeah, so he kept that thing going.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: What what he what Patty was wanting? So uh, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: he's done an amazing job. And another guy from that
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: from that same team, he's a he's a softball coach.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Oklall State.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, he's been there for for a while. He's
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: done great and they think they've gone to a College
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: World Series like six out of.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: His eight years.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: And uh, he was my roommate in college. And yeah,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: he was STIM's assistant coach. It lord, he brought him down.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: There's two guys with great baseball minds and and that's
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: how they got it done. So yeah, so's it's pretty
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: sweet story. Well, Russ, it was great, great talking with you. Yeah, great, Sorry,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I was Susan just twenty seconds. Because we're college college football.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Dreams were floating in the air and our audience was
• 18:40
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• 18:41
  Speaker 2: But we talked college baseball. That was baseball.
• 18:44
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• 18:45
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• 18:47
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• 18:50
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• 18:52
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• 18:54
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  Speaker 1: it ten years? Did your league VET ten? Postseason Legend,
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• 20:09
  Speaker 7: It looks pretty good, amazing. Great to see you guys too.
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Cratzy always good to see you. It's been an incredible
• 20:16
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• 20:29
  Speaker 7: feel like big leaguers and all the things that you
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: know that we used to fill.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: The locker room after the day is a really cool
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: scene to see everyone hanging out there telling stories. Have
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you had some good interactions there?
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we've had some amazing stories. That's that's what we
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: missed the most, is, you know, being in the locker room.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Obviously playing, being on the field, competing, that's what we
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: do out here. It's not doesn't quite give us the
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: thrill of like a big league game, but it's something.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: But truly we missed being in the locker room, on
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: the buses, on the planes, and just having that camaraderie,
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: listen to the you know, the stories that have been told,
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: you know, ten times over and but yeah, it's been incredible.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I invited Scott into the locker room yesterday Scott. Scott
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: didn't play any sports, so he doesn't so yesterday for
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: him to sit at the table and get to hear
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: some stories.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: He was like, oh oh oh, I did not make
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: those sound effects.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've made worse.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: It was sipping a drink listening, but great stories. I mean,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: what's been your favorite interaction with somebody that you've met
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: here or spoken to or you know a story sitting
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: down Schmoltzy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: I got to play against some quite a bit, never
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: got to play with him. So just hearing some of
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: the stories he tells about No Maddox and you know
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Chipper and some of the guys that you know, all
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: those guys that he played with for the Brace for
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: so long. Just hearing those stories from you know, decades ago,
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: is pretty incredible.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So I would say him mostly.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Let's get your rankings of the top rivalries in baseball
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: right now? What do you think are the top three
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: team rivalries in baseball. There's a hot question right now,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you're mastering you because of your Giants dage. I'll give
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit of context. There's a big crowd that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: says the best robbery in baseball right now is Dodgers Padres.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Because there's also legitimate beet between the two teams. You'll
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: get Dodgers fan saying we don't care them. We have
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: all the accolades recently, but those are two good teams
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that have great battles, especially in the regular season lately
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and a few years ago and the postseason went out,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I mean last year and a few years ago. Obviously
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: when the Padres won the last year, the Dodgers took it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Down, So I would it's funny, I would say, still
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: I think obviously number one for me is the Padres Dodgers. Okay,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: it's crazy because back in the day, like the Padres
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: were just like a team that nobody really cared about.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: So it was all ways Dodgers Giants, Dodgers giants, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: then you know, the the d Backs try to sneak
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: in there a couple of years and try to create
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: a rivalry with the Dodgers, and it was like, oh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Dodgers and d Backs are, but I still feel like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: you know, at the end of the day, I think
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: it's Dodgers Padres right now, even though the history goes
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: back and there's not much, but it's still some Red
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: Sox Yankees I feel like is never gonna go away,
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: even though neither one.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Of them are in the first place.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: Like, there's just some really good rivalries out there, and uh,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: you know, it's it's gonna be fun to watch down
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: the stretch. Be a third one because I can't even
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: think of anybody else.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Right, Dodgers, oh okay, and Red Sox Yankees.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Those are probably three that most people look at you, yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Which one is more heated? Though you were in the
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: middle of Giants Dodgers, you're in the middle of Red
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Sox Yankees. Which one is more heated? And do you
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: have any examples of like things getting a little crazy?
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think Red Sox Yankees just goes back
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: so many years and the history that they have of
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: you know, the fights that they've been in. You know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: it's just you can't you can't compare that really to anything.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: I think they are the number one. I don't think
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: when I was there, we had much beef with them,
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: although it was always felt like so much tension and
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: so much you know, just battling going on. But we
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: never really got into any fights or any bench clearing
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: stuff when I was there. But I would definitely say
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: the uh, you know, red Sox Yankees is number.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: One before you before we get into some golf here,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: because we're going to talk golf with you. If you
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: would have gotten into a bench clearing brawl, you're from
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: New Mexico, your dad was a bull rider. You were
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: also apparently a rodeo clown to like protect protected writers.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: So if you got into the bench clearing ball, would
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: you act more of the clown or would you be
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: more of the bull rider where you're attacking the bull
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: or would you be trying to distract somebody so they
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: could get away safely.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: When I was in the minor leagues and we got
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: into some altercations, I was always right in the middle
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: of it. Once I got into the big leagues, these
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: guys are monsters, and I was the guy hiding around
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: the back, like trying to hold my guy back. So
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: I would say in the minor leagues, I was the
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: bull rider in the big leagues.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I was the bullfighter trying to protect my guys.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: That's good one more for me. On the baseball side,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen any of the realignment
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: talks right and how eventually they'll add a couple teams
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and then things are going to get split up differently.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It's been talked about for years, just that the commissioner
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: brought it up again recently. Do you think that if
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: it's realigned geographically, for example, with more Yankees and Mets
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: teams like that that usually only play each other inner
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: league style, it will water down a rivalry or do
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you think it will heat it up based on how
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: often baseball teams meet up and then start to build
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: up a hatred for each other if somebody gets hit
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: by a pitch, right like you've seen rivalries go from
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: there to we actually don't like the other side.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would. I would say one hundred percent.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: If they were to realign it and the Mets played
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: the Yankees, you'll say it six times a year, I
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: think the rival would become way bigger.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You're saying, well right now, I think they played six
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: ish time, no No No.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Six series of years.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, sixeri. Oh yeah, series, like.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: We used to nineteen nineteen games against each other, right,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: and that's when you create the animosity. Some guy gets hit,
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: maybe not on purpose, maybe on purpose, you go in,
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: you know, back to their city a couple you know
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: months later they're gonna drill somebody. And the next thing
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: you know, you go back and forth the cities and
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: it's like you're ready to fight. And so nowadays you
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: only play them, you know, maybe twice a year, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: it's it's hard.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: To get back at somebody.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: You have to wait maybe years, and then some guys
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: aren't even on the team at the time. So I
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: think it's going to create way more you know, sort
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: of that animoski of teams.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: All right, trade deadline just passed, obviously, we're talking about
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: all the playoff teams you got traded from the Marlins
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: to the Giants, ended up winning the NLCS MVP couple
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: dingers off of roy Holiday, momentous occasion in your life.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: But teams are so reticent now, they're so resistant to
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: trading at the trade deadline, no offense. But Cody Ross
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: isn't like the biggest name that ever went at the
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: trade deadline, and yet you have a ring to show
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: for it. Do you think you can pass that along
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: to teams who are like, I don't know, don't want
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: to get rid of my number three prospect in the
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: organization just because there's a chance to win.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. And actually I got claimed
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: off waivers, which is even worse the Marlins member. They
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: put me on waivers and the Giants claim me to
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: block me from the Podgres. But yes, I would say,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's a great great points. He's like a
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: lot of these teams are kind of holding back now
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: and not wanting to let go of their guys. But man,
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: when you have an opportunity to win, and you and
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: as a you know, front office guy, as a manager,
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: as a team like we we know as players, like, hey,
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: we need to go get somebody because we want to
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: win right now. And if they don't make that move,
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: it's like do they even care? Like do we like,
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: what are we doing here? And so when the when
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: the when the front office steps out and they make
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: that trade and they at you know, show the show
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: the guys that are out there playing every day kick
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: getting their butts kicked that hey, we're we're willing to
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: go all in, Like, that's for me, That's what it's
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: all about.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: All right, you threw left handed better right handed. You're
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: you're complete weird though, And there's a few others, but
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: not many. Ricky forgot about Ricky. He was pretty using
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: the best, all right.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by far? What you play golf right or left handed?
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I play golf right handed, so you know, like klay
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: bucklet you play golf right hand and then you put
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: left hand out.
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: I'm not that weird, but it plays weird. So it's funny.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: I do everything underhand right handed. So if you think,
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: like if I, if I was to pitch of softball,
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: I would have to pitch it right handed.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I can't pitch it left handed.
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: That it's really awkward if I but if I throw
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: darts or if I throw a baseball, I have to
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: do overhand football obviously, But like it's weird. Everything underhand,
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: right handed, everything overhand left handed.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: You are a weirdo, so weird. Yeah, it's unique.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Best best golf course you ever played, Cyprus Point Carmel.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: It's really hard to be.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: I've never played Augusta and I've never played Pine Valley.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never played it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: I've been invited a bunch and I just it's just
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: I can't for forever. That was that a call? Call me?
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: Did he say, call me? Oh, craty, don't even don't
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: even tempt me, buddy.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Bring your jacket to take a shower in as soon
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: as you come off the golf. Of course, you have
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: to put the jack on. You have to take a shower,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: and I'll work oat.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: The whole deal. I'll shower and whatever they make me.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Shockrat you got it, you're setting it up.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Just just shoot me a text. I'll have my guys
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: see if he can get you on.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Done. Best player in New Mexico, Gregman, Brian Urlacker Baseball, Yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: by far. I was holding down the title for a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: while and then he just went you know him, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: we got.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: When he was younger, We got to know each other,
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: get to know his dad, and then yeah, he's just
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: a he's an incredible guy.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I mean that, what a student of the game. He
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: is amazing.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Well, Cody, good luck out there, great to see you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, man, And this was probably the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: best interview you've ever done with what you.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Got out of it, by far.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, best hand out, Thanks Cody
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Thanks guys, appreciate it.