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5-26 H2: More Mariners, Reading Your Texts, John Ahlers Joins & Cross Talk · The Gregg Bell Show

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: All right, fresh batch of the eleven AM Hour coming
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: at you, hot and heavy. Mike Betton in for Greg Bell.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Greg's off today, back in tomorrow. Christopher Kidd on the
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: other side of the glass of thing just changed his
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: shirt to New York Knicks colors.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Do I have that right?
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: I can't see behind your at your screen's back there?
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: You know I haven't.
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just happy it should be a fun NBA Finals,
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: regardless of which team makes it. I know a lot
• 0:33
  Speaker 3: of Sonic fans out here, like Chris, are you kidding me?
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: The last thing they want to see is okay, see,
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: but I'm looking for an entertaining, competitive NBA Finals, and
• 0:42
  Speaker 3: I think either team coming out of the West will
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: do just that.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: That's a great PC answer. Now stand up here. No,
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to see. If you change your shirt and yeah,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: let me stand up for you. You might not be
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: able to see because I'm so short. Hang on, Oh
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: you're cheating how much you can't see under your jacket?
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: Now? Oh you want me to take the jacket off?
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Time.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: I don't care about that. It's a little chill.
• 1:03
  Speaker 4: I try.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you a hard time, that's all.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: Trying to give you a hard time. All of a sudden,
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: you're a next fan. But hey, who can blame you?
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: Not a Knicks fan. I'm just a for at least
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: two weeks. You're on rental. You're right, No, I're alone.
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: I'm an NBA supporter and I'm excited to see this
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: next team, because again, this is a team that has
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: been just laughed at. This a laughing, a laughing stack
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: of the stock of the league. Right, it was Detroit Pistons.
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: But look what they've done. They've revamped and redone everything.
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: Obviously they didn't get to where they wanted to do
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: this season, but the Knicks were that team for years,
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: and now they're like, oh my gosh, we have a chance.
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: If we win, we are NBA champions.
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: Who liked them outside of New York back in the
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: nineties when they had Patrick Ewing, John Starks, everyone.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: Charles Chicago Bulls fans.
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're You're away from the big stage
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: for this long. All of a sudden, you're a darling.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're a darling. I mean, who do you
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: are you?
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: I see the Knicks back in the heck yeah, heck yeah.
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: It's just I think it's pageantry. It's it's cool to see. Yeah,
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: I'm with it. Next thing, you know, I said so
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: on these airways.
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: So John Foreslyn last week was doing the Carolina Montreal
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: series on radio for the Stanley Cup Western or Eastern
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: Conference side. I mean, go into a game at Bell
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: Center in Montreal, tradition, history, pageantry, how boisterous that fan
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: base is. It's just like playoff basketball at MSG. And
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: it's going to be unhinged in the finals. Okay, it's
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: going to be unhinged in a good way.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Hinged.
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: I say that in a good way. There's not a
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: bad way, is there?
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: No? No, I think, yeah, you're good.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: Although you know the city did try to permit or
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: did try to stop and say no, you can't celebrate outside.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: And we've had too much celebration. You know, it's getting
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: to be a bit over the top when in New
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: York they say you parted at a little too hard
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: to just go back home and watch in your apartment
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: or suburbs and Yonkers or wherever.
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: So who's coming out, who's winning, Who's going to the
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: finals for hockey?
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: Vegas?
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: I said this already, Vegas is gonna win the Western
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: Conference side, I would sew back the Montreal train into
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: the finals. I think after last night it left me
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: with a tinge of doubt. I don't think it's gonna happen.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: I think Carolina is starting to really find their rhythm.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be Carolina.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: Oh so we have Carolina and the Knights.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Recall this trying to draw like a comparison. You do that,
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: but I we have toime to think about that. Think
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: about that on Vegas.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, Mariners last night winning nine to two, and again
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get to your text messages. You're in a
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: bit because we're kind of doing this showing reverse formatt
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: up a bit upside down. John Oler is going to
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: be joining us from the Western Conference Final at eleven
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: thirty in Vegas. Four nine, four or five one. We're
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: gonna get back here. It's a little more Mayre after
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: last evening where nine too, the win said a lot
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: about the state of the offense. We had been asking
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: for many more guys besides Randy to show up, and
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: did they ever show up in explicit fashion With the Bats,
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: you can say maybe it was a wind thing, Maybe
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: it was facing a ridy who was arm was about
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: to fall off, and he.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: May be going here to the il.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: But for as many series as they had been through
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: and laid an egg falling flat on their face last
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: night was a bit of a palate cleanser. Now this
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: is again the issue with this Mariner team. You want
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: to move on from the palate cleansers onto more consistency.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: And here's maybe I think two past day take. Yes,
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: you have an easy schedule. We said this last week,
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh best, twenty seventh, easiest in baseball at this point,
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: because I go back and look, they have thirty one
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: games left in this schedule against the Rockies, the Tigers,
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: the Giants, the Mets who have been incredibly disappointing, the
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: Red Sox who have been a tire fire. They have
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: six against them, and then the Angels who have been
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: just miserable, and they have ten against them. But yet
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: they faced a Royal team that was playing well beneath
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: the bar last weekend and with the exception of Friday,
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: for an underwhelming too nothing win really got at some
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: points disappointed to even humiliate it. Oh and Sunday was
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: just the absolute low point. Despite a great start. You
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: have JP fumbling the bag right back at shortstop, pitching,
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: falling apart defensively, base running issues, every thing, and a
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: lot of the issues seem to kind of go away
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: last night in a new situation and in a big
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: series as well. But how much did that win alleviate
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: your concerns? Four nine four five one, Because we begin here,
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: of course with the obvious big elephant in the room
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: once again, this whole piggyback situation, and you had Luis
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: Castillo throwing a glove in disgust when he found out
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: at the end of the fourth inning he was getting pulled,
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: and from what we saw a visibly uncomfortable conversation with
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson on the bench in the dugout after that.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: He is a starting pitcher. Starting pitchers are trained to
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: empty the tank and this is becoming a very uncomfortable
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: situation which could easily be avoided, Ryan Heally, and again, folks,
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: I encourage you to go back listen to Chuck and
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: Buck from this morning. Ryan Heally was a great back
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: at the nine am hour saying that they're just kind
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: of paraphrasing this. It appears to be a communication breakdown,
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: just based on the fact of where Luis Castillo is
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: right now, if he's told directly you're gonna go to
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: the bullpen, maybe he doesn't emit as big a reaction
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: as he had. But a lot of the tea leaves
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of the arrows on the board, pointing here
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: to the fact that he was pretty surprised that this
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: was happening. So again we had Bryce Miller do this.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: In game one, Luis Castillo piggybacks off of him. Game
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: two we have Castillo who goes out and the question
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: bears is this going to work? And give him credit,
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: he was fantastic, but you can only see so much
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: it seems to be out of Luis Castillo before you
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: go to Bryce Miller. And then Bryce Miller was not
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: too hot to trot about the idea post game. We
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: played the comments last hour with him and Brad Adam,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: and I'll have Chris Kid tea this right back up
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: once again, because we can only tell you so much
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: how uncomfortable this is. But Brad Adam once again, who
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: was fantastic, I just going right at the issue. And
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller, who I can say firsthand is one of
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: the most genuine, care free, fair individuals and friendly individuals
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: in that clubhouse, and as transparent and open as it gets.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: He said it right here.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: As far as how this is play now through not
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: just one but two games, because one's an accident and
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: two is a trend. So you tell me where this
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: is trending based on Bryce Miller. Here he is with
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: Brad Adam.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: Now the second guy the second time.
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: So is it getting more I guess comfortable now that
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: you've done both situations.
• 8:50
  Speaker 5: This setup's not very comfortable. But like I said, I mean,
• 8:54
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I get to come
• 8:55
  Speaker 5: out and pitch in the big leagues and something that
• 8:58
  Speaker 5: I've dreamed about in my whole life.
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  Speaker 2: So would I rather start the game?
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But anytime I can be on the mount in
• 9:03
  Speaker 5: the big leagues, I'll be grateful for it.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to say you have to be uncomfortable
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: with or be comfortable of being uncomfortable, but this is
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: a completely avoidable situation if you begin to have uncomfortable
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: conversations with guys who are placed in different situations and
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: better situations as well. And I point right back at
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo because it appears that Bryce Miller is the
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: third best starter in this baseball team, and to put
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: him in this situation is bordering on malpractice. Louis Castillo
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  Speaker 1: can be serviceable. We've seen how great hissed Uff has
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: been last two times. But there's got to be the
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: right situation to put him in. And the question bears
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: do you look at a six man rotation? Once again,
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: opinions may vary, but how long this piggyback situation goes for?
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: I don't see this being a long term thing, just
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: because Major League Baseball is not just about managing arms
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: or managing numbers. The right teams to do it know
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: how to manage personalities, and personalities are as strong as
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: they come in the biggest league in the entire world.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: Not everyone can fit in the rotation. Sometimes you have
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: to have the hard conversations with the numbers game and say,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: here's where you are best fit for this. As long
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: as you communicate that and your team is winning, you're
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: gonna find yourself in a pretty good position. So the
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: longer this goes, this is once again at risk and
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: in danger of tearing away at the morale of not
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: just one but two very very good pitchers in Bryce
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Miller and the wist Castile. Shall we get to text here,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: Chris Kid, you want to do that? I think we
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: should do that here to coma doadge text line. Let
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: me cue up the player coming in. It's not official
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: unless the music. Oh yeah, let's get into it. So
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: I lower my voice as well to try to match
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: the vibe.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Nah, you're good man.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: Be loud, be loud when you read these messages. So
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: we want to make sure the audience is getting their
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: their love for the day.
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: Four nine, four or five one Sakomadajs text line from
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  Speaker 1: the two OHO six Marcus. I haven't had any concerns
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: and still don't. I think the piggyback is great, but
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're keeping to a script and not
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: letting the game decide what to do.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: The rock should have pitched the fifth inning, all right.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: I think Luke Arkins had a great point last hour
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: where if you if you have him face third time
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: through the order, that becomes a concern because it shows
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: that again right now, Luis Castillo. Stuff is good early,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: but it's best to mitigate potential damage. This is what
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: baseball is all about. He's not going to get the win,
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: or maybe not going to be in line get the win,
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: but it is a team win. So but yet I
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: think it goes to a deeper point. How much more
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: are the day to day workings of this team managed
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: by just a pure script and not by feel and
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: not by gut. That think, to me is a bigger
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: issue also to be discussed down the road. As we're
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: about one third here through this baseball season, which you
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: got Chris.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: From the two oh six. Do you trust Dan Wilson
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: to win in the playoffs? I personally do not. All right,
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: I would say yes, I do trust Dan Wilson to
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: win the playoffs. He's proven it to you, right.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: He's proven it to me.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: He's proven from this point he had a sixty home
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: run bat in cal Rawley.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: H he had a Haneo Suarez. Yeah, I mean, I
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: He's stunk mostly and he had his golden moment as
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: well in the ALCS. But he was also writing a
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: hot whore heete Polonco.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: It leads me here to if you don't have players
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: who are going to be writing not just all star
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: but historical numbers like cal Rawley, how much can your
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: managerial influence in pushing the right buttons via a team
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: to continued course and not veer them off course. We've
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: seen how great Bruce Bochi is one example of pushing
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: the right buttons, managing not one, not two, but really
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: three giants teams that maybe had no business in going
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: past the nlds, but they got three World titles in
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: five years. I use the Dodgers analogy here with Dave Roberts,
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: a manager who came in and what has now become
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: an analytically driven front office in Los Angeles, but.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: They do it well.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Dave Roberts, though, took a lot of heat and well
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: deserved in his first few years of going by script
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: way too much. He had a guy, for instance, in
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: reach Chill back in the twenty eighteen World Series, was rolling.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: He yanked him off the mound. Analytics said, at don't
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: do it, don't do it. I think it's pretty clear cut.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: He has evolved after he put a guy at the
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: plate in Game seven against Jeff Hoffman and Miguel Rojas
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: who hadn't had a hit in a month, and then
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: delivered a Dave Henderson like knockout blow in the World
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Series and then pave the way for their third ring
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: in this decade. That is evolving and learning how to
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: manage with your gut. This is where I think Dan
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Wilson has to evolve. He's a great clubhouse guy, we
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: get it. But where is clubhouse morale right now? And
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: where is it gonna get you?
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Because as of right now, there's a lot of moving
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: parts that he's got to manage with this team, not
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: just this whole situation project oink, but trying to man
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: his left handed pitching, the platoon situation. How often do
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: you want to rip your hair out when you see
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: a pin hitter, you know, replacing Luke Rayley and Rob
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Revschneider and goes not one, not two, but three whips,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: see you later, good night, inning over. I mean, at
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: this point it's driving Mariners fans nuts. And this is
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: where Dan Wilson I think, has to grow in learning
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: how to manage situations where things aren't rolling one hundred
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: percent his way like they were last year. And I
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: think we saw in Game seven where when the situations
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: get tough and you're having to manage Ryan Wu Edward
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Bizardo as one example, we saw what happened.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: This is where he has to grow. Got another one there,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: got a few minutes.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I think absolutely from the three six so I understand
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: the piggyback, but I don't like it, and obviously neither
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: do the players. Management needs to grow a set and
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: move Castello to the pin full time. He's better in
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: shirt spurts at this point in his career. Move him
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: and let him get adjusted to the role. Now Kate
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Anderson is ready to come up and step in if
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: they haven't injury to another starter. Rip the band aid
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: off when it comes to su and here Mason.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Hit the nail on the head.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Nail on the head, because good teams have to go
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: through uncomfortable conversations and address them appropriately. Piggyback situation Project
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: doink one bad pig is one example. Now we're getting
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: to another of what do you do with Kate Anderson
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: who was absolutely ripping apart hitters in the minor leagues
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: and could be on this baseball team next year, if
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: not by the end of this year, should be really
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: into Cooma by July, because what do you do? Let
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you may ask, last night, four in a two thirds
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: or four and two thirds in three hits, zero runs,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: two walks, seven strikeouts. You know those seven strikeouts among
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: them seventy five pitches, fifty one strikes, thirteen whips lowering
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: is ere two drum roll one point six y three?
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Would you love Kate Anderson on this baseball team soon?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: In this rotation?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: And I ain't.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: The question bears the more he keeps rolling out numbers
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like these. I mean, it's already like trying to stuff
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: six pitchers into a five man phone booth here at
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: this point with the situation. But now one's Kate Anderson's ready,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: what do you do after that? I don't think piggyback
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: two of two is going to be well received here
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: in this town, and definitely not by this pitching staff.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Whatsen leads us here, is it time to deal a
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: pitcher who won't resign with this team down the road?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: And You're you're gonna have to have a hard conversation
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: with somebody like say Logan Gilbert or like George Kirby,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: because you've got to find a way to fit in
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Cad Anderson.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: What's next? Chris?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: All right, m let's see last one because I know
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: we're up again. Stick, Yes, Okay, here we go. Dan
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Wilson's letter grade is I incompetent. He is over his
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: damn head. He is a puppet for this organization, James
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: for the three to six. Oh some tough tough comments there.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Remember what we were talking about when Dan Wilson was
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: hired and Scott's servis was out, and that they had
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to have a bit of a change in direction, not
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: just for you know, the offense, but for the clubhouse. Well,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, dan Wilson gave them the clubhouse feel. But
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I just think that this would be less of a
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: concern if Dan Wilson wasn't named the full time manager
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: right after this whole move was being made. There was
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: no vetting apparently in this there was no interim tag.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: It was just say here's the job.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And yet, yeah, we see an ALCS appearance eight ounce
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: away last year, but again, so much was going right
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: with cal Rawley, with this pitching staff that got him
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that close. And again we're thinking going into the postseason,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: when you've got to match wits against some of the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: game's most seasoned minds, how's this going to play out?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: We saw what happened and eventually Dan Wilson just stumbled
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: by Game seven. This is going again calling a lot
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: as far as how he's going to turn this around
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: after we saw just a calamity of Aris Chris from
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this last week. And I go back to how, you know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson tried to come out and make a pitching
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: change at the end of this piggyback situation night number one,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and the Empire said go back. I know it wasn't
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: big in the whole scheme of things, but it was
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: just bad bad optics, bad optics. And then I go
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to even you know, Josh Naylor not having his batting
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: gloves ready after the Mariners went through a big inning
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: or was it Julio, I believe, and they admit that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: they weren't ready and they just lost track. I mean,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you've got to have your gears and order on that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: bench and get guys ready. I've seen players at ten
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and eleven you get ripped at from their coaches for
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: not being ready. And this happens at the major league level.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it is a concern right now. It is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a concern for sure. Stanley Cup playoffs again are rolling
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: here with the Western Conference Final. Vegas take it on
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Colorado for Game three. Is this series over? Vegas is
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: out to a three game, two nothing lead. How does
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Colorado get back in this year even with two of
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: their superstars Leak and Oil.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: John Allers has the Collea's had the call.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: On our am station, by the way, but he'll join
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: us next year from the site of Game four going
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: down tonight in Vegas, Avalanche and Golden Knights. John Allers
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: up next on ninety three three kJ ARAPM.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Well, it appears that season's come and go. Players come and.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Go, the teams that make deep runs. The Vegas Golden
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Knights do not come and go. And here they are
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: one win away once again from the Stanley Cup Final
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: after just what was just an unbelievably bonkers Pacific Division
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and opener for the Stanley Cup playoffs. The Golden Knights
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: emerging once again with John Tortorella, who took that job
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: just eight games left in the regular season. Mike Benton
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: again filling in for Greg Bell this morning, the guy
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: calling this series again via our sister station and all
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: across the nation on Sports USA. His name is the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: great John Allers again joining us right now with the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Beacon Plumbing hotline calling the play by a place side tonight,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Game four Western Conference Final. Vegas can sweep if they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: beat the avalanche coverage opening up at four point thirty
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: again on KJR AM locally. John joining us right now, John, Hi,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Happy good morning to you, Happy Tuesday to you. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I never tried this here, but I heard that the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: slots run his high is about ten grand over at
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Caesar's Palace out in Vegas. You being a high roller yourself,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you can confirm that right.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Well, I walked right through Caesars and in front of
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: it yesterday. That's as close as I came to the slot.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So we can keep guessing and guessing here. Well, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: mean one way, I don't guess about where the series
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: is going. John, And again I appreciate you joining us here.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Is that I mean Vegas. Once they get this deep
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: into the postseason, they just look like an eighteen wheeler
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: going down with no breaks. It doesn't matter who's coaching
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: this team. And I mean if Kale mccar.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Mike, I'm having problems hearing yet.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you hear us? Now?
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I got you now?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you now.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, A little bit of gremlin's here being worked out
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of the machine here as John Aller is joining us,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and John, I'll just I'll kind of start this silver
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: once again with you. I mean, the way that I
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: look at this here is that with Vegas, once they
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: get this deep into the postseason, it doesn't matter what
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: coach they have, they just look like an eighteen wheeler
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: going downhill.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: With no breaks.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And I mean if Cale mccarr's out and Nathan McKinnon
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: is out as well, I mean, look out mccar's back.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But what have you taken away here for the first
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: three games of the series.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Well, team, and they've been there, done that, if you will.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: From a perspective of you, you ask them if they've
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: been through something. You know. The underlying theme tonight is
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: the Colorado Avalanche haven't been here. At least this group
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: hasn't down three to zero. You know, they lost two
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: games in regulation in their first forty in the regular season.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: But in the last three years, I think Vegas is
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: something like eleven and four in games five through seven.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: So to your point, when they get this far and
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: they get to up where the game's become much more
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: critical and even more important than they than they are
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: in the Stanley Cup playoffs, when you get late into
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: a series, they know how to conduct themselves and it
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: will be interesting tonight. And covering the Avalanche morning skate
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: this morning, the word is and even though he didn't skate,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: that Nathan McKinnon will play tonight. According to Jared Bednar,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: he will use him regularly as he's accustomed to using him.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: He's not expecting him to be limited as he clearly
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: was after he blocked the shot late in the second
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: period of Game three. For his I think four or
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: five shifts that he may have taken in the third period,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: that's good news for Colorado. We all know that. You know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: at this time of year, no one's one hundred percent,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: but when players are either out of the lineup or
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: visibly struggling from a physical standpoint, it makes it that
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: much harder. And that's been the case where their two
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: best players are concerned throughout this series. Whether it was
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Cale mccarr in games one and two or now Nathan
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: McKinnon down the stretch in Game three. It just it
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: makes Vegas that more daunting of a task.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: John Cale mccarr has become quite the villain here in Seattle,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: just basically for the role that he played in the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three first round series against the Kraken, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: yet we've seen just how much he influences that team.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: He didn't play for a couple of games they lost.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He came back in last or last game for Game three,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: but Vegas won that one income from behind fashion. So
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I have the question bears with him back in and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: now McKinnon banged up but able to play, how useful
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: can they be at the stage of the series.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I think mccarr's still a great puck transporter as
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: far as with that skating ability that he has. You know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: he can break pucks out of the defensive zone all
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: by himself, just with his feet. One of the things
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: that was lacking in the first two games without him
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: were rush chances from a Colorado perspective, and the Avalanche
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: of made a living off rush chances and their speed,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: not just this season but every year on their way
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: to a President's Trophy this season over one hundred and
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: twenty points in the regular seasons. But I think he
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: can be very useful from that perspective. He's a good defenseman. Listen,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: he's everybody marvel that what he does offensively, But this
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: is a good defenseman and potentially maybe best defenseman.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: In the game, or in the world for that matter,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: But you know, I'll take an eighty percent Cale mccarr
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: over no Cale mccar any day of the week. It
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: clearly appears as if you know, it's a shoulder injury
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: for him. He took some shots in the game, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: the big wind up slap shot, if given the opportunity,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: doesn't appear to be his choice right now, and that
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: leads him to be limited now. With that in mind,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Vegas has been very physical throughout this series and throughout
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: these playoffs, and you know, whenever a team knows that
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: a player might be dealing with something, you know it
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: is gamesmanship, but they will go after him. And as
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I pointed out to Billy Jaffy, my broadcast partner in
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Game three, I said, that's always the game plan on
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: cal mccarr. You're trying to hit him as much as
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: you can. Normally it's easier said than done. I don't
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: think the shoulder affects his skating ability. He continues to
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: be an elusive target.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: John Allers joining us right now with the Beacon Plumbing
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Hotline again on side, have the call for Game four,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the Western Conference Final tonight in Vegas.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: John.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: How much have we learned about the Golden Knights and
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Mitch Marner and the kind of play that he's pulling
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: off right now in the postseason versus his time back
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: in Toronto.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know that we're learning anything other than we're
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: watching it with a different team. He wasn't a bad
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: player for Toronto in their playoff runs in his first
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: eight or nine years there in Toronto. It's just a
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: spotlight run so hot there, And you know, I think
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I read somewhere and I can't confirm this off the
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: top of my head, but I read that in the
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: it was the seven playoff runs he had in the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: nine years he had in Toronto, he was cumulatively their
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: leading scorer in those postseasons. Now, you have to be
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: there for all seven of those postseasons and that probably
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: aids you and being at the top of the list.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: But you know, Toronto is the market in which they
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: like to point fingers and when things don't go their way,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: well they haven't since nineteen sixty seven, because the only
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: way if they go all the way, it's going to
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: be you know, who do we blame when this doesn't
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: go wrong? We see coaches in the crosshairs of that,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: not only in Toronto but in every market. But you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: it's I think it's been a freeing experience for Mitch
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: to play in Vegas where that spotlight isn't as hot
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: and isn't as constant on him as it was in
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: his time in Toronto. And as a result, I mean again,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: just like that team he played on in Toronto, he
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to be the star every single night, and
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: as a result, you see, you see the whole of
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: his game. He is a good two hundred foot player.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Jack Eichel gets a ton of credit for that as well,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: but again, on any given night, Marner doesn't have to
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: carry the offensive load. There's been a couple of games
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: in this series already where he didn't appear on the
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: score sheet and Vegas did just fine. They're up three
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: games to none. Ichel has had a couple of games
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: like that in this run. Same thing happened in the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: second round. Marner was clearly the man in there win
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: over the Anaheim Ducks in the second round. He had
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: eleven points in a six game series, but at times
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Ikeel wasn't, you know, carrying the load, And times in
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: this series we haven't seen Mitch Marner carry the load.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: But lo and behold, he's a leading scorer in these
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Stanley Cup playoffs.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: John.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Finally, two scenarios. I'll have you fill in the blanks.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: This series ends tonight in four games if and we
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: will go to game five.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: If fill in the blank.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Well, Mackenzie Blackwood's going to get the starting goal. So
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I'll start with the ladder of the two, and that
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: is this series will go to a game five if
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Mackenzie Blackwood gives them, you know, a strong goaltending performance.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: You know, on the surface, it's going to look like, Okay,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Wedgwood went the first three games. To a lot of
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: people on the outside, this is a panic move. They're
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: down three games to none, and who can blame Jared
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Bednard for doing that. But at the same time, Wedgwood
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: and Blackwood basically split the goaltending. Dude, he's right down
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the middle of the regular season. Early on in the playoffs,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Jared Bednard, despite having I think it was a two
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: or three games to non lead in the opening round
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: series against the Kings, he openly was quoted as saying,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: we're going to use both of these guys, so you
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: know this isn't a surprise, really. I think the surprise
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: for many of us was that it wasn't Mackenzie Blackwood
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: in Game three. But if he gives them a solid
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: two good goaltending performance, I think we could see ourselves
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: back in Denver. This thing ends tonight. I think if
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Vegas gets off to a strong start. The one thing
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: that has been noticeable to me is, you know, the
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: President's Trophy winning Colorado Avalanche at times from a body
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: language perspective, have not looked like a confident bunch. Throughout
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: this series. Vegas has kept them out of the middle
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: of the ice, kept everything to the outside. Don't be
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: fooled by the shots on goal numbers. I think Vegas
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: has been outshot in each of their last nine playoff games,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: and yet in those games they're seven and two. This
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: is a team that packs it in in the defensive
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: zone and they'll let you shoot from the outside, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: they'll let you handle the puck on the perimeter and
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: have all the zone time in the world you can have.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: But if they get the early lead in this one,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: and god forbid, from a Colorado perspective, if they get
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: a multi goal lead, I can see Vegas being very
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: comfortable just sitting back and challenging Colorado to get to
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: the inside like they've challenged all three teams they've played
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: in this postseason. Then had a great deal of success with.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Vegas up three games to nothing, Game four tonight, John,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: appreciate you having.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: A call, always a pleasure. Might take care.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Anytime, John Aller joining us once again play by place
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Ciphers Sports. You was say that game, of course carried
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: locally here on nine point fifty kr AM Game four
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: for the Vegas Golden Knights and the Colorado Avalanche mortiget
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: after the Mayor of Maple Valley Ian Fornax joins us next. Well,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you know how they say that flexibility is often the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: best kind of teacher, and I kind of had to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: learn that lesson as I was growing up. Well, apparently
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I found out that we're going to be talking to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Ian forness, who will be by the way at Virginia
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Mason Athletics Center for Seahawks OTAs. But then we're down
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that oops connection issue. He didn't trust me, trust me.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: It's code work for I'm tired of talking to Benton.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to him. Let's just get
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: through this year.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what's going on exactly. Yeah, yeah, he didn't
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: want to hear.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Glader joins us.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Now by the wazing of the Carolina Hurricanes last night, jeez.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: That was blowing up in our in our group shop.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: By the way, it was guy.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: There's one one guy we won't we won't name him,
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: we won't name him out, we won't you know, air
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: him out over the year. But there's one guy's rooting
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: for the Carolina Hurricanes. And uh yeah, let's just say
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: the others don't agree.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I will, I will give this this one hen he
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: is a frequent guest. He has appeared on these air
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: waves a ton. Oh yes, I will not go any further.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Just I don't throw anyone under the bus. It's our
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: hockey boys chat.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: It's one of those situations where if about you know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: ninety percent of what we say on there would go
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: on the air, we wouldn't be on the air.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: This is why you have to have a speakeasy. Yes, exactly.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: The nineteen twenties and thirties and forties and fifties, it
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: was all rich mahogany and bourbon. We just find that
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: way too above our pay grade here, soa group chat instead. Yeah,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: So you think Colorado makes the three to zero comeback?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: No chance, not a chance, Okay, not with the way
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: mccar's banged.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Ut true, not with the way kin in this bang.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Doesn't you see him by the way on one shift?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah in game in Game three he tried to get
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that extra speed burst and it just wasn't happening.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: What so, what is the deal with them?
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Did they just overdo it in the regular season or
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: is this all just like coming crashing down at the
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: wrong time.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Nobody has won the President's Trophy and the Stanley Cup
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in the same year in thirteen years. The Chicago Blackhawks
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: were the last to do it, and that also was
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: during a lockout shortened season.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Complaint.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: So it's just it means absolutely positively nothing. It's just
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a incidents, yeah, saying okay, does the ultimate sign fell
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the trophies?
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: The trophy? That means nothing?
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah okay, So I meant, like the the is there
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: a reason why President's Trophy winners don't like?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I love this part of the conversation Anders, because again,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, for for teams who take the best record,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: what they want to do is of course build for
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: whole ice advantage. But now there's a question does whole
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: ice avantahs mean much anymore?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: The Kraken version says, heck no, well, Colorado, Colorado win's
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: seventh that must be Dallas and seven three years ago.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.
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  Speaker 6: But I think if anyone has the home micee advantage
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: is Colorado with the altitude, and you know that place
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: gets rocking when it's when it's right. But I wonder, like,
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: if you're exerting so much quote unquote energy, and we
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: all know how hockey players played through a lot of
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: injuries during the regular season, more so than in almost
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: any other sport maybe football, I guess, But exerting that
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: much energy in the regular season just to you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: get to the point where you are the President's Trophy
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: winners and have the whole ice advantage through the playoffs.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Is that the reason why they're breaking down now or
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: is this just Olympics everything? They do have a pretty Olympics.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: It was such a screwy year because you have the
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: Olympic break. I mean, teams are gonna get banged up
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: because they don't know how to handle it. Me and
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: the Krack and fell apart after the Olympic break, and
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: they're they're the first team to admit we would have loved.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: To keep playing through this. Just a paraphrase what they said.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Some teams love the break. Vegas could have used it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: They did. They had like like eight or nine players
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: go to the Olympics. The Kraken had like maybe three.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And that's just way too much time to be, you know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: sitting away at home or on a beach in Mexico, Hawaii,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: wherever you want to go, and you gotta drag yourself
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: back on the ice three weeks later.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've lost all momentum.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah. And the other thing is and you're not gonna
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: like this comp but Vegas is notorious for kind of
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: just resting guys in the middle of a season just
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: because they already know they're going to make the playoffs
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: and it's all about that playoff push. You know what
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: that sounds like.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: The baseball version of this is called the Dodger van exactly,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the Dodger vacation.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I listen to your show, There you go, there it is.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: It's it's not a dig It's like it's it's obviously
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: it works for both teams.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: They were a loophole. There was a loophole. Yeah, they
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: worked it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay worked at the league is trying to close
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: set loophole now, but they worked the loophole. Oh, speaking
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of baseball, have we talked enough piggyback yet?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: The tee for you, man, I I'm interested to see
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: what Molly Wop says today. We'll have that at one
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: o'clock so they will have their thoughts. I'm sure. I
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: do think it's pretty funny how everyone prior to the
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: piggyback situation was why do we care about Luis Castillo's feelings?
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Get him out of there? He's obviously the worst pitcher.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, now that he looks
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: pissed off in the dugout, we all care about Louis
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Castillo's feelings all over again. So which one are we
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: talking about here? So the thought of the piggyback and
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: it actually worked to perfection last night. Whether Bryce Miller
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: and Luis Castillo get pissed off about it or not,
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: they obviously don't like it. Both of them don't like it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: But you you have a day where you don't use
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: your bullpen. You can now use any bullpen arm for
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: the rest of this week. Yeah, and have a chance
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: to go sweep the division leaders at this point, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: you get two guys that you know, whether it is
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: the reason why Castillo is starting to find himself again
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: or not, it's he's providing value once again to you,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: and here it's you're not going to trade him, so
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: you got to find ways to get use out of him,
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: and that if that is getting his confidence back to
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: where he can be a starter once again, and then
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: you just go to back to the quote unquote traditional
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: six man rotation. I think that's probably the long term
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: play here, But I don't know, man, because as pissed
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: as those guys were last night, it worked exactly the
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: way the Mariners wanted.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I think the big question for me is how long
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: can this work out? With Bryce Miller and his ego
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Lewis Castillo and his ego. I mean, again, I use
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: ego as a very very complimentary turn, because again, major
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: league ballplayers have egos, and again, the biggest key for
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the most successful teams is managing said egos. In that clubhouse,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: they all want to go, but there's only so many
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: holes that you can fill where we are now fitting
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: six guys into a five man foam both her for
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this pitching rotation.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's one of those things where I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: the decision you have to make. Everyone's like, just make
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: a decision. Just make a decision. It's not you're not
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: dfan Castillo. You're not trading Castile. That's out of the picture.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: The decision you have to make is whether you want
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: to do the six man rotation or you put Castillo
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: in the bullpen's that's the decision you have to make.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: And that's where we're kind of deciding where his value
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: is going to be with this team moving forward.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Wait for that here Molly WAPs also coming up at
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: one o'clock. What else is going on?
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Andrews?
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: Uh, we got Molly Wop, Marcus truefant is gonna hop
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: in and talk. Uh, you know some footballs. Ian's at
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: ot as. He's actually just floating around right outside the
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: office here Seahawks legend.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Did I see him?
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna chat with him, and we
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: got the dumbest thing you've heard today.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. I love when Ian brings this stuff.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Up.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: He's like, oh, I got a dumbest thing for today,
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: so uh you'll hear that at twelve.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I was on the air for about two hours.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: He's got a gold mine here to play with her mate,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that I promise.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Ian's up next. Andrews as well.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Big thanks once again Luke Arkins, John Allers as well
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: for Greg Bell and Chris Kidd.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I might see a