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Ranking EPL Players 150-51 I Ep: 98 Part 1 · Draft Offsides Podcast

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Hello and welcome to episode 98 of Draft Offsides.
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I'm with Tico Enzo, my name is Keith, and we are officially
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dropping our first round of rankings.
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It won't be our last round of rankings.
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Well, I don't know what should we try to update it weekly?
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I feel like trying to get you guys to do them as I heard it
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casts. Whoa, whoa, Trying to get Tico
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to do it and actually. Adding we're trying to dispel
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the players names correctly is like that's.
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Different. I fucking did it.
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You knew what playoffs talking about.
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OK, so we're going to do our rankings first.
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Let's talk through some news and notes.
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I think the biggest thing that's really exciting is Hugo Ekatike
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got a here we go and is on his way to Liverpool and the
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implications are for that are pretty far reaching and in
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effect a lot of different players.
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I think the first thing is we managed to slot him into our
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rankings. I think we're all kind of around
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the same place, which we will talk about in depth more, but
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it's looking like it is going to be what in the second like suck
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around. Yeah, suck around.
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And what do you guys think about the trade in general?
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I know, I know you don't. You don't need to have like an
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analysis Ecka TK quite yet. But just like in in general, is
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it something you're exciting? Just think about that top three
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and now attacking is Florian words Ecka TK got ten goals and
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eight assists most solid top goal scorer last season.
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They just they've gone out and they spent more this transfer
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window then they the five years they had clock.
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That's nuts. That is.
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Is that true? That's true.
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That sounds like an ends up. Nope, sounds like an ends up.
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Look it up. No, that's true.
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Look it up. They bought a think about it,
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Frim Pong, Florian Watts is already a pre Penny Kurka's now
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Ekka TK and they got a couple other players, you know, won
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that much, but they were still in the millions.
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So yeah, man. It's also going to be
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interesting what it means to Luis Diaz, who didn't play the
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friendly I think against. They had a game yesterday at
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Liverpool and Darwin Unas had a 15 minute hat trick, but we all
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know he's on his way out. So I think it's gonna be
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interesting what it means for Luis Diaz and Cody Gapko
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obviously as well. Yeah, I kind of want to talk to
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Luis Diaz. I think as this stretches on, I
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think I have another bone to pick with you about Luis Diaz
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ends up we can, we can get there later.
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But I feel like as the stretches on, I'm losing more and more
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faith in him and feeling like this could be the Harry Kane of
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two years ago, the Ivan Tony of last year, where guys who pick
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them thinking that they're getting a really good deal end
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up getting just screwed out because he transfers out in the
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last week or two, right? Yeah, Why do you plan that
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scene, Keith? What's you said you got a bone
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to pick with me? I do have a boat pick with you
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because you, because what we do is we rank players and we have
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to take these things into account as we rank them.
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And what you decided to do, which was to not rank them at
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all, was the coward's way out. How is that a coward's way out?
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Because you because even if you don't personally want to drop
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them, it's about having figuring out where you want to rank out.
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OK, so where did anyone rank Rashford?
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No, no, I don't think he has any value.
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I don't shouldn't be drafted. I don't think that Luis Diaz
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should be drafted right now. I think the difference is is
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that if this deal falls through, you know, Luis Diaz is going to
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return value on like a second round pick.
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The Rashford Barcelona deal was like mysteriously fall through
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in the last second. Like, Rashford would still go
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and draft it because he's not going to play and.
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You just changed your time because in the chat you didn't
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say anything like that because you said, oh, if that's your
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mindset, then OK. Yeah, because you.
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Thought I did it because you thought I did it by.
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Myself, because I didn't. I know.
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Well, at first I did because I was like, there's, there's no
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rational reason to not. You mean there's no rational
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reason there's been so many rumors?
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To not rank them if you, if you don't want to drop to, it's one
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thing to not rank them. I was a little, I was a little
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peeved. I'm sorry.
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You couldn't. I respect.
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I respect your opinion. Thank you.
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You couldn't tell by keeps telling that he was not happy
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with you on. The on the chat, no, I couldn't
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tell. Yeah, oh, I thought I made it
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fairly clear, but OK. But I OK.
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That being said, yes, at least you guys is dropping like a rock
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and drops right. But the there is a place where
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you're going to look and go. Well fuck it, at this at this
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stage in a draft, it's worth it. OK, I hear you.
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But but I don't know where that is personally anymore.
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I've I've lost, I've lost touch of where that is fair right
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here. Where would that be for you,
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Enzo? If you, if you, if you were, if
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you saw him in the fifth round and you're still there, which
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you wouldn't, you wouldn't be tempted when we see us.
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That round. 10th round, You guys are that far down on the round,
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yeah. I'm not, I'm just trying to give
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the extreme tons up just to show him how he's wrong.
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I'm not wrong. Would you draft him in the 10th
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round? No 15th round.
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Yes. So you've been right, top 150.
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There you go. Yeah, maybe that's but that's
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not maybe, but that's yeah. I'm sorry but.
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That's literally like, but that's a throwaway pick.
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We already know the 150 pick is sometimes it's like you're,
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you're like risk, pick that from like you're not gone.
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Do you know how rankings work? Fuck you all right?
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All right. OK.
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So Luis is becoming a little bit of a scary prospect, Cody Gakbo.
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Does this change your thoughts on that at all?
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Or is this Luis? Is leaving automatically better
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for Cody Gakbo? No, I I think it's it stays the
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same because with Ekatike going there then it just still keeps
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them down slowly behind Florian works so.
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Yeah, unless they change their formation, which is a
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possibility. Which is a possibility because
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they could play 3 in the back, but then they don't have who who
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they play the three in the back with I.
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Mean they they got defenders. Well, can I take Virgil Van
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Dyke? And they already got rid of
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Kwanzaa, so yeah. OK.
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I mean, I think there's we can discuss that more when we talk
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rankings. And then Bjor Cruz is still
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ongoing and it's I saw reports that like his like his father's
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brought to tears at how much of A standstill it's at.
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And then also reports that Man United came in with like a last
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minute, they're trying to like potentially get in there and he
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wasn't really that interested in that.
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Agent cut his fees so they can get him at a low price.
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It just doesn't seem like, it just seems like there's, there's
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so many barriers in the way and Arsenal's just not budging and
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honestly, sporting is like fuck you, you're going to pay the
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price that we want and you're going to pay it upfront.
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It feels like an ego thing but for the 2 clubs at this point
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doesn't it? Like it feels like Kyogrez is
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bending over backwards trying to make this happen.
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His agent is bending over backwards and the two clubs are
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just like trying to like big Dick each other.
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Honestly man, he's under contract and he's at Sporting
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Elizabeth for I think like 3 more years.
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His contract so. I I got it.
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I just feel like I like it would be very unfortunate if nothing
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budget is there and then, and the only way it'd be kind of
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funny is if that arsenal makes a a like a deadline day bid for
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Nicholas Jackson. Yeah, that would.
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Truly, that would truly be Ollie Watkins would be like, I get,
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and I'd actually think that that'd be a good move.
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Nicholas Jackson would just be the funniest thing to ever
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happen. Yeah.
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That'd be fucking. Hilarious.
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OK, so with a second no I. Didn't say, but don't you think
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Nicholas Jackson should go to Monday night?
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I think that's where you should go that.
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'D be also be awesome, I'd be. I'd love that as well.
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I actually think he'd do well about those clubs as much as Tea
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Coat despise his own. Well, it's also a win win for
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you because if he sucks and you're wrong, it's you know your
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your enemies getting a shitty player.
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If he's good and you know, you get say, hey, I told you guys he
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was good. Yeah, I you're totally right.
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I like that. I think everything about it.
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OK, with Ekatika going to Liverpool, that sounds like that
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cools off the the ESAC rumors to Liverpool as well.
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Is there any world where Arsenal just bailing to your grass and
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drop 120 million on like an ESAC bin I mean.
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How should they pay for Rice 100?
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101 hundred and they could, don't get me wrong.
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And it it would make more sense to spend 120 million on ESAC
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ESAC than the span was it 70? 7570. 5 million on.
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After add-ons, yeah. That's the add-ons with jockers,
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because Esac's proven. So it's actually 45,000,000.
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That's a lot. It's a lot of money. 1,000,000
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lbs too. Well, you know, and they just
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bought Noni Madwecki for no fucking reason, so.
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Yeah, I wonder if that's like going.
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We actually can't afford to buy exactly.
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Not even. That'd be very funny.
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But the rut. But I yeah, it's just it's
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getting a little messy, but it's very interesting.
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I think this has been like the first transfer window in like
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maybe like a year, like maybe since COVID where it feels like
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it's been like very juicy. Yeah.
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Well, I feel that way, but. Yeah, no, I completely agree.
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Like Rodrigo is still in the air too.
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Like I guess it's cooled down now with Liverpool.
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I don't think he'll go to Liverpool, but he where's he
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gonna go? Could he go to Arsenal still?
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Actually on Real Madrid Twitter, him going to Liverpool has kind
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of the traction has been more the last few days, yeah.
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You think that's just like money's being spent.
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So then people want to talk about him, you know what I mean?
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Like Liverpool's buying all these players, or maybe they'll
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get this guy too. Like, is it kind of like that?
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Do you think there's anything legit to it?
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Well, there's also a rumor that Gwyneth is going to go to Real
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Madrid this transfer window. So I think it's one of those
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things where like Liverpool's like, you know what, we're going
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to take one of your players back because we've been punching
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them. And then like, it's almost like
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a trade. Like they, they don't, they'll
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never frame it as a trade, but there's like an element of
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trade. Yeah, Pretty much.
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Yeah. Like, yeah.
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It's funny because they say that they're spending that Coutinho
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money they got all those years ago finally, and that they
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invested it into Bitcoin. Did they invest the Catino money
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into crypto? That was very funny.
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Yeah, that was a very funny, funny bet.
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Okay, John Arias is going from one of the Brazilian teams.
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I don't remember which one is it to.
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It's Luminesce. Yeah, Luminesce.
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No, no, lots of Palmieri, I don't.
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Remember it, Palmieri, I think, yeah, maybe, maybe not.
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But he's going to wolves and it's it's it's relatively cheap
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deal. He's like 27.
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Yeah, I kind of like it. I think it's interesting.
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It's a very wolves move. Yeah, it'll be interesting to
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see where his ADP starts in fan checks once he gets like
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officially like added in, because I can see that as like a
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later round pick, as like a pretty like like a sneaky like
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12th, 13th round. And it wouldn't be bad.
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No, yeah. You.
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Still, I think and he's like he's not young and they also
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like he proved during the Club World Cup that he can play with
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against elite talent. Like it's not like it's going to
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be like a step too far for him or anything.
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You know we'd. Handcuff him with Sharon Lawson
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and that'd be nice. Yeah, I mean, he's obviously
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more of a winger, but yeah, I mean, or yeah, they're just
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players there. I also think they just he just
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like they they need more was he more attack?
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So I like it, yeah. Yeah.
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Rashford is officially going to Barcelona.
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Peace. It's good times and some very
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bad times with Rashford over the years as a fantasy owner so.
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It just makes me laugh that I've seen now like more Barcelona
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feeds with the top three being Rashford, Yamin and Mao and
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Rafina and it's like, I don't know if that's going to work,
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those 3. Is that?
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Is that what they want? No, that's just why I've been,
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I've seen a lot of it being posted and like, do you know
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those? Things Lewandowski is just
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chocolate. That's what I'm fucking saying
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like. He is like what?
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How is he going to be 37 this year?
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Yeah, he's. Going to be all day.
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So Tiago still was fault for and he pulled out Man age is nothing
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but a. Number now I feel like a
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striker. What is the one?
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Does he going to just position himself in the box and wait for
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the past? All day in the right spot
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though, Perfect. I think that's probably I think
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it'll be I'm I'm curious to see how much playing time he gets.
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Good thing it. Doesn't affect us.
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Good thing it doesn't affect us, but what does affect us though
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is these rumors with Nico Jackson that we kind of talked
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about earlier. Do you feel like like if he goes
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to one of those scenes, he suddenly shoots up drop boards
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all right? If he goes to Manchester United,
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I think he also starts going to like the fourth round.
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I. Think he shoots up but I don't.
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It's still a risky play, I. Don't think it is.
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I think right now Chelsea's the forward #3 yeah.
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No, no, but I'm talking about ahead of him.
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I'm not talking about that. I'm I'm agreeing with the fourth
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round. I was still, I just still think
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because he's going to a new team.
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I'm not. Sure, I mean wouldn't he be an
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upgrade over Kai haverts as well?
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I think they'd split time. They'll split time.
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I think at Man United he'd get, he'd get playing time, get about
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a minute. Yeah, he'd get.
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A minute, minutes and you know Bruno would kick a bunch of
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balls up to him. Hopefully he reaches it, you
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know. Yeah.
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And you know, every for every like 4 that he gets on to maybe
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gets one on target or something maybe like I like those odds,
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yeah. I also like the potential of
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Nico Jackson going from Cole Palmer to Bruno Fernandez to
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Elite Mythical. That's true.
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Chance after chance by like those amazing passes.
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I mean, but actually it's kind of a juicy because we've always
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talked about Nico Jackson's like a volume player and those are
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two guys that are very much like volume passers that like create
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a lot of chances and stuff. So I know that was kind of a
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joke ego, but actually it's a really.
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It's a really good fucking point.
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It's like the ads to the fact that he's going to have like the
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support around him to be decent. If you guys said be in United, I
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think I think I'd prefer that over Arsenal.
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Arsenal's just so like, stodgy the way they play, you know?
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I agree. Awesome or wig dependent?
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Yeah, totally. OK.
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So should we get into our rankings then, guys?
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OK, guys, don't judge us. It's going to be in three parts.
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All right, Keep going. OK, yeah, probably gonna break
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this up into parts just to make it easier.
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We're gonna start with the 1:50 to 1:01. 1:50 or 1:01?
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Yeah. OK, sharing screen.
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Did you do the intro? Yeah, I did the intro.
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Yeah, I did the intro and it was great.
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All righty. So how is this?
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Do you want me to zoom in a little bit?
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You're good man. I got that.
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I got mine on my screen. Cool.
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OK. So I think we want to kind of
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break this down into rounds a little bit too.
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So let's just for the sake of just our own brains, we can do
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it in like a 10/10 team draft. So it's just easier.
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So like 1514130, looking at this, I, I like to think of the
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first three, the last three rounds, like like what, what
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16151413 even maybe as like that's when you like, I
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personally start to take lottery picks and then also maybe fill
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in a position where I am like light and just need like an
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extra little bit of support. Those are like the two types of
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players that I'm looking at. Yeah, when I, when I do this.
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So looking at our board, the Mr. irrelevant #150 is for Lopez
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from Wolves. I, I actually think of him as a
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lottery pick type guy. Tico, you didn't even rank him.
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I'm not even sure how much he's on your radar.
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Just in the sense that he's like new to Wolves.
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He's just like a young prospect that's like kind of like, and
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it's going to be an attacking player.
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I think it might be like a, he might be too young to like
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really start games that we don't really know until the season
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starts or when we start seeing how preseason is and stuff.
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So right, right now I'm like kind of interested in it, but
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that could obviously show any thoughts there.
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I think that on a Wolves team at the moment that's been gutted
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over the last two seasons of their star players, that anyone
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they bind is either going to be, you know, deaf or a starter.
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And I think Fur Lopez, even though he's young and they have
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a nap for starting young players, could could play.
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That's why I've ranked him quite high.
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Who else do you guys like in this?
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I mean, where we can obviously scroll like maybe I will jump
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out one more so just we can see the whole maybe I don't know if
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we can see the whole 150 but or the 50, but who else?
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You guys kind of like in this age because there's a few names
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near the end here that I've, I've been finding when I do when
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I do mocks that I tend to gravitate towards.
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Are there any names for you guys that stand out to guys?
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See one that I know that you like?
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Is it grillish? Oscar Ball.
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Oscar Ball. Bob Yeah.
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I put them in there too. Damn you.
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Damn you've ranked them high bro.
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This is 10 plus rounds. This is where I take.
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I swim for the fences, OK? Nice.
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OK. No safe fix, obviously.
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The, the, the thing with him is playing time and I think
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everyone, anyone in Dementia City midfield backs, however
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they, whatever formation they're going to use this year, I think
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it's going to bring value in production.
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Time you've ranked Jack Greelish.
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Yeah. Is that is that with the idea of
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a move away and it's kind of a lottery pick in that sense, the
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same way that we've talked about like our Nacho and Kunku and
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those types of players. Yeah, as long as he goes to any
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middle of the table, bottom half of the table, he's just going to
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have the politics to it at all times, dribbling crosses and all
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that stuff. And he was a monster before he
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got to City even the first couple of years.
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So if he's available, why not? I mean we'll start going to
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draft in those drafts. That's going to like be a game
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changer for you. I.
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Hear you. I like it.
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What about, I know someone that we talked about briefly with Joe
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and then Enzo. I think we both like his.
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Judd Spence is like a later on pick too, just from Tottenham.
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I think he he had some really good moments last year and
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Thomas Frank is a pretty exciting coach and I think
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that's just like you can do a lot worse.
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He's a later on pick. Yeah, I had him at 1:50, but I
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know we added Ankit TK late so he dropped down to 151.
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But he's definitely for me like a last round.
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Hopefully he's still there baby, just because if he gets game
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time under Thomas Frank with those wing bags, if he can do
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the same thing that Coyote did, Oh my God.
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I think you don't have a lot of defenders ranked, which I found
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kind of interesting. Romero, Fabio.
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Share. I think I, I mean, and then you
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talked about that, right, that you, you just are not, you think
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you're going to be able to get guys off the off waivers and
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stuff and see it's not worth ranking.
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Is that kind of the mindset? That was the mindset.
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I didn't. I only ranked one goalkeeper and
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I didn't really do too many defenders.
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Only the ones I knew, you know, I felt comfortable with.
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I did mostly midfielders and forwards because they're the
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ones that can get your points. Which goalkeeper did you rank?
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Pickford OK, some other names on here.
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I like someone that we talked about was Consensio Somerville
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with Kudos leaving, I think that opens up space there and it's
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who knows. I think he's more plays on the
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off the left, which is fine, but you know, because I think that's
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where I think Kudos was kind of being forced to play out of
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position when he was there off the left.
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Yeah. So I think that kind of opens
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that he was injured last season so we didn't really get to see
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him. So I think there's a like a
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little bit like a slept on thing and B like there's a like an
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opportunity like positionally form two.
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Yeah. I mean, I like that.
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Definitely has opportunity. You guys, someone you've
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mentioned before is Adrian Trufert from Bournemouth kind of
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coming in to be the Kirk as replacement.
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I think that's an interesting one in these rounds too, just as
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you know, like the dark throws that we've been talking about.
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Anyone else in here that you guys are liking?
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I think like other names like Malikuso is kind of interesting,
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not so much because of his last year numbers, but just because
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it seems like in the Club World Cup and Rescue kind of found a
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way to play him and play Reese James and suddenly if he's
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playing pretty high up, that's interesting.
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I just don't know how much playing time that is, or that's
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like a confirmed thing, you know?
18:42
Could be Danny Welbeck's another interesting 1.
18:45
You guys gone pretty early in the 12th round and the 13th
18:48
round and went for the 14th again.
18:52
We know about him already. He can be really good in the
18:54
first part of the season, but just be wary that he probably
18:56
will get dropped. Oh, I mean, without Jon Pedro
19:00
there, it's it is kind of interesting.
19:03
Like there's just less, there's less competition.
19:07
I mean, who knows, Brian might sign a striker, knows a striker,
19:10
but I just feel like it's kind of his position.
19:12
And like last year he was crushing it in the start of the
19:15
season. He was So I just, I just feel
19:18
like it's, and it's like with the forward scarcity, I know we,
19:20
we, we're going to kind of talk about how we think that by the
19:22
end of the season, it'll all kind of shake out.
19:24
OK, But with from the forward scarcity position.
19:26
But like I, I still think forwards will be scarcer than
19:29
they haven't in the past. And with that being said, like
19:31
why not take a stab at Danny Welbeck that you can slot him in
19:34
for a few games to start the season.
19:36
You got him in the 12th round. Like it's like not a lot of
19:38
risk. Yeah.
19:40
My, my, the other interesting thing I see with you guys is
19:42
that you you guys actually put in a lot of the promoted team
19:47
players that I noticed Mayenda, who I don't really know too much
19:51
about, but I I don't put too much weight under a player who
19:55
plays up front for a lower team. I know Dilap was that guy last
19:57
season got your ten goals, but then you've got like Perot who I
20:01
don't know. I don't honestly, I don't know,
20:03
but you guys in you guys in ranked, Daniel James, who's been
20:07
in the league before and can do it.
20:10
Are you guys didn't rank him? Is there a reason?
20:11
I think that's probably an oversight.
20:13
I think I probably should have like ranked Dan James, to be
20:15
honest. I think that he's I'll probably
20:17
have to go back and look at that.
20:18
I think that he probably has the capability and the fact he's
20:21
been in the league. And so I think that's a good
20:23
point. And when you look at his numbers
20:24
from last year, obviously it's a championship, but they were
20:26
really good. So I think, I think that's one
20:29
that I would probably want to want to rank.
20:32
Sake of honesty, because you know, I'm very honest person.
20:36
I literally went on the promoted teams, just saw who was the
20:39
number one. Like a DPI was like, oh, let me
20:40
put like one from each team. But I also want to talk about
20:44
the like, I think from 1:31 to 1:50 we have few Arsenal
20:48
players. I kind of wanted to go through
20:50
them one by one because I thought it was kind of
20:51
interesting how we have them ranked. 131 is Michel Marino,
20:55
who keeps doesn't have ranked and zone.
20:57
I have them on 24th and then Carla Fiori.
21:01
Both of you don't have ranked. I ranked them and then Ben White
21:04
and Saliba. So only Keith has them ranked.
21:09
Well, yeah. Then I have Saliba ranked.
21:12
No 151. Yeah, 151, this is just.
21:15
Which is kind of interesting because the last two years
21:17
Arsenal defenders were like a hot commodity because they were
21:20
not giving up any goals, yeah. So I, I think with Saliba, what
21:24
you see is that he's just not a huge point generator even when
21:28
he does play. So I'm sure he'll like be picked
21:30
up and it's just to me, I just wouldn't.
21:33
I just feel like there's better places, like there's better
21:35
places to go and I'd rather get guys that are gonna generate
21:38
other points. I think even at his best, just I
21:41
think he's like barely startable.
21:44
I'd rather like the clean cheap points, sure, but like he just
21:46
doesn't. He's not generating enough
21:47
points other than that. But you'd rather have Gabrielle
21:50
if you're gonna have. Oh, I mean Gabrielle's obviously
21:52
ranked much higher and I think cuz he's cuz he kind of plays
21:55
like that X the X in the like the set plays and stuff like
21:58
that. You.
21:59
Know and and color Fiori. I'm just I'm just not a fan of
22:01
Cala Fiori. I think he's a he's a midfielder
22:05
in a defender position. He wants to be a midfielder at
22:08
least, and I just don't think that's kind of Keith.
22:10
If you get the chance, do you mind pulling up the points per
22:13
star for Cala Fiori? I have it right here.
22:15
Let me look it up. OK, let me see here.
22:18
Next up, just to leave someone's name on.
22:20
Just a second Cala Fiori Carter Cala Fiori 7.7 points for start
22:26
with 11 starts. So he was injured a lot too.
22:28
So that's another thing that I was just like, you know, the.
22:32
Injury. Injury and like it wasn't like
22:34
when he wasn't injured, he had like these phenomenal numbers
22:37
that were, you know, game changing.
22:40
They were they're it's like once we're started 7 by sevens like
22:42
poor like like below replacement level, you know?
22:47
Yeah. So yeah, like, I don't know, I
22:50
mean, I think the there is upside, like if Lewis Kelly
22:53
wasn't there or something and you think he's going to walk
22:54
into that position, but with Lewis Kelly in there too, I just
22:56
don't, I just don't see that. Yeah, I think it might be Lewis
22:59
Kelly's position. Perfect.
23:00
Honest. Yeah.
23:01
And I think like with Ricardo for Kyle, Fiore has like the
23:04
ability to play center back and left back just means like he'll
23:07
definitely get out some time. But is it enough time to really
23:10
warrant what we're looking at here?
23:12
Yeah. Hi.
23:13
Any other names we want to talk about in this?
23:15
I think we can go down 11. Tico.
23:18
You're you're hot on this guy. What guy?
23:20
Sirano Berry. He said he was going to draft
23:23
him. You haven't 68th ranked Tico.
23:25
That's a pretty big difference from what meet Enzo Voltab.
23:28
You think he's going to be the starter at Everton?
23:31
I think so, yeah. What just you think he's I've
23:34
heard, I heard a few pundits talk about they really like him
23:36
as a player too. So I like, I'm not shocked, but
23:40
are you really? Do you think you'll be drafting
23:41
like the 7th throne? Obviously a lot of it matters if
23:44
I if I have forward forwards or not, but I think he could be one
23:47
of those forwards where if you draft him in the middle to late,
23:49
could be top point producer. I think that job is going to be
23:53
his eventually because even with Beto last year when he came on
23:56
and had a couple of good games, he still was not getting the
23:59
consistent minutes and starts. He still got benched.
24:01
So with on that team, on everything team, who else is
24:05
going to be the striker? To me, it's yeah.
24:10
Yeah, it's between that for sure.
24:11
Oh yeah? What about not ranking Harvey
24:13
Barnes, Tikka? Was that a conscious decision?
24:15
Conscious decision, yeah. Because what was that about?
24:17
I don't think he's getting enough starts to.
24:19
You, yeah. And I don't, I mean, obviously
24:21
if he gets the rotation, but I don't think he's going to be in
24:23
the lineup a week in and week out.
24:25
And even when he was, I like, I don't think of him as someone
24:28
who's a very high production player.
24:31
Really he had some good. He had good games at the end of
24:34
the season last year when when Gordon was having had those his
24:37
issues. And then when Gordon was fit, he
24:39
couldn't get back in the team because Holly Bombs were
24:41
performing. But if if you're going to be
24:45
banking on a player performing well if someone else gets
24:47
injured, to me it's really not value on that.
24:51
Yeah, I mean, I, I, I feel the same way.
24:53
I I've hardly been Barnes ranked I guess.
24:56
I'm, I'm also thinking Newcastle's in Champions League,
24:59
right? So they're going to be rotating.
25:01
There is going to be rotation whether they like it or not.
25:05
OK, then what about we're all it's Enzo.
25:07
You didn't make Fabian Shar. I've been at 105 T go.
25:10
You have him at 1:17. I think he was always he's
25:13
always just he comes up with the odd goal and he's just a pretty
25:15
solid starting defender. I just feels like one of those
25:18
picks. He's not like one of the the
25:19
lottery picks you're talking about.
25:20
To me, he's like the type of guy that if you're in the 12th round
25:24
and he's there, he seems like a pretty easy like defender for
25:28
defender five could be. How was his ghost points?
25:31
Because I think, like, can you see that?
25:34
Yeah. Because I, I, you know, I'm
25:35
starting to think about it. I I probably should have. 8.28
25:41
point, 2 points per start, ghost point 7.8 which is not bad for
25:44
too solid, though not. For not bad for a defender.
25:48
No, maybe I should have. I mean the the people he's
25:51
around in his ghost points. Oh, I don't have it.
25:56
I don't have it arranged by that.
25:57
Never mind. But like 7.8.
25:59
Mark Cucarella's 7.6. You know Elliot Anderson 6.9.
26:05
Tyreke Mitchell 7.8. And they're.
26:07
Mark Gahey 8.6 so. And there's competition for
26:10
center back in Newcastle. You've got Spam Botman coming
26:12
back. You've still got freaking, you
26:14
know, Big Damper and he's played, was playing center back
26:17
at the end of the last season. So yeah.
26:21
Something there. OK, then I think we're all, we
26:23
have interesting thoughts about James Bond Prowse and I think I
26:27
went back and looked and like he was starting underground Potter
26:29
the last like several games he started.
26:32
And so I think there's value there.
26:33
And I think a lot of that values like comes from the fact that
26:36
it's really good set piece delivery and like West End has
26:39
some big boys and yeah, and James Bond Prowse has a nice
26:42
little foot to him. He's kind of he's kind of a
26:44
sneaky late pick, especially after going so high in drops
26:47
last year and being such a bust. Yeah I agree he fucked me last
26:52
year but that wasn't his fault. JWB if he starts, if he gets
26:56
stars, I feel like he can he can produce like what was it like
27:02
crosses shot assisted? I clear crosses, no corners,
27:06
keep passes keep. Passes all those, so I think he
27:09
can do that and it's all depending if he gets the starts
27:11
on the Potter. Yeah, I totally agree actually.
27:13
Like looking at how low you guys have him, I actually might need
27:16
to adjust my rankings because I don't want to be left out of the
27:20
chance of to drop him potentially.
27:23
The one above him though is interesting at the moment
27:25
because we don't know if he's still going to be in the league.
27:27
Pervis is to be on. So that's in 110.
27:29
So now we're going into the next grouping, right?
27:32
Oh no, we're doing a hundred, a hundred, right, 101, yeah,
27:34
Pervis is to be on. So they picked up, they got a
27:37
new left back, this guy like D Cooper.
27:39
D Cooper or something. And so there's rumors and now
27:42
that Pervis is going to be on its way out.
27:44
But I feel like the way Brighton works is they usually get a guy
27:47
like they don't usually just like replace a guy.
27:48
They're pretty good about like getting the replacement in
27:51
before they get rid of the guy. So that they might be seeing
27:53
Pervis as like, let's get rid of him in the next two years and
27:56
bring his his replacement now to get ready.
27:59
Do you feel that way? If the rumors are there, so you
28:03
know there's what, two more? How many more weeks left?
28:06
Like two more weeks. Less than a month 3 weeks 3.
28:08
Weeks. So this is the three weeks we're
28:10
going to find out. As we get closer, I'm sure we'll
28:13
adjust our rank as a few of these players might not even be
28:15
in there. Yeah, absolutely.
28:18
There's one that I'm looking at here that I think I would have
28:20
to adjust my rankings on in this last group is Miles Lewis Kelly.
28:23
Again, I probably have him a little too high 1:45.
28:26
I just don't think he'll be there.
28:28
Where he currently at one O 2 for us, but I just don't know.
28:33
I just feel like I think like he wasn't the thing with him is
28:36
though, that he wasn't this like amazing point scorer last
28:39
season. So I don't know I maybe I'm not
28:41
Maybe I feel like I should just leave it.
28:43
I feel like there might be a little bit over hype on the fact
28:45
that his position will change because even if he does get
28:47
clean cheap points, I like like do you want to see when his
28:50
points were started? Let me.
28:50
Yeah, but he's also taken up 1 and you see him, he's on the
28:53
fucking catwalk. This guy's got to start focusing
28:55
on football. That's another thing to think
28:58
about. His points per start was four
29:01
with 15 starts, Ghost points per start, 3.8.
29:04
So even if you give me the occasional cling sheet in there,
29:08
like like maybe yeah, I don't. I don't think there's that much
29:11
more value. I think maybe I don't.
29:13
I don't. Know take him out, take him out
29:15
mine of one or two and put Fabian Charm in his place.
29:20
But I, I think what we're also banking on is he played out of
29:23
position and I mean, he was what, 1718 first year starting.
29:26
So you're also banking on him getting better and the team
29:29
overall getting better as well. So I think that's what the, at
29:33
least for me, that's why the ranking is so high, I think.
29:35
Also you've got a thing about hopefully he doesn't get fucking
29:37
2 red cars like he did last season either that affected it.
29:41
Yeah, that, that's true. And 15 starts getting 2 red
29:43
cards is definitely going to hurt your scores without a
29:48
doubt. Yeah, OK.
29:49
I mean, Rhys James is interesting.
29:50
I think he's a, he's kind of like a like a lottery pick at
29:53
1:01 just because you just don't know if he's going to play.
29:55
You're not like I'm, I'm not super excited.
29:57
Like he's the type of player that I'm trying to avoid, which
30:00
is just like the players with lots and lots of question.
30:01
Marks and that's why I put him in the 12th round, late 12th
30:04
round, because one is, you know, well, I think he can take us up
30:08
before his mouth when a defender plays in the midfield.
30:11
And if he plays in that midfield, which I don't think
30:13
he'll do too often, but when he does, could be fucking
30:17
beautiful. All right, anyone else you want
30:19
to talk about here? Mateus, tell Chico you don't
30:22
have them ranked. I haven't ranked 116th.
30:23
And though you're the, you're the hottest on him at anyone.
30:26
Because I think there's there's animosity amongst son and where
30:30
he's playing, like if you just look to the friendlies, he's
30:32
getting pulled early or he's not starring, it doesn't look good.
30:36
He doesn't look happy at the moment.
30:37
So I think my Matthias Tell was the obvious.
30:41
The obvious. The left left wing here, You
30:43
don't think it's you don't think Rich Charleston gets a shake at
30:45
all I. Don't think so.
30:47
I wouldn't, I think tell being the younger one.
30:49
We just signed him. Rich Charleston said his chance.
30:52
Don't even I think he'd play there.
30:54
But there's also rumors about Rich Charleston going, and if if
30:59
by some miracle we get Johan and Wesa a fan, then he'll
31:04
definitely take us. Well, I, I think that's
31:06
interesting. I just feel like he's still so
31:07
young, like even his starts in the season.
31:09
It's just, it's just that idea that you're banking on him
31:11
improving, you know, 'cause he had 11 starts, his points per
31:15
star at 8.1, Ghost points per star at 6.4, virtually like 0
31:20
war. Like just, I mean, I don't know,
31:23
I just, I wasn't super impressed.
31:25
There's certain things he did. I liked when I watched him play,
31:27
but as a whole I wasn't like this guy's.
31:29
He's not superstar, teared up. He's not superstar yet.
31:31
Not yet, yeah. Yeah.
31:33
So maybe it happens, but I just but I guess, I guess that's
31:36
where in the 11th round you gamble on that, right?
31:38
I. Agree.
31:41
All right. Should we go to the next section
31:42
like the 99100 to whatever 50? 99 to 50.
31:49
Do this thing because we obviously can't see all of them.
31:52
OK, at 100, Harry Wilson, he's someone that I just do not rate
31:56
136 for me. You guys both have them really
31:58
close to 93 and 91 to me, like last year what he was doing was
32:01
just coming off the bench so much so it was like how are you
32:04
really going to ever like comfortably start him?
32:07
Like how are you ever going to be feel good about that?
32:09
I. Think, I think he could start
32:11
this season. I think, yeah.
32:12
I don't think ESR gets too much more game time.
32:15
Perfect enough? You think they're you think that
32:18
was just a lot of miss. Yeah, I think, I think they, I
32:20
think they gave ESR a chance last season and don't get right.
32:24
I think he played pretty well. But those games where he just
32:26
went fucking missing when Harry Wilson came off the bench for
32:29
him with what Harry Wilson did. So I think Harry Wilson starts.
32:34
His points were starts 9.7, not the worst.
32:36
I mean, I guess where he's going the ninth round.
32:38
But yeah, I mean 12 starts. I just, I just remember the
32:43
amount of time he was kind of off the bench.
32:44
And yeah, if you if you, if you have the belief that Smith Row
32:49
is not going to be starting frequently, then I think that's
32:53
that's that, that's the only way I think that justifies that.
32:57
That's the only way I can see it.
32:59
And if ESR does start all right, Fulham's going to go down to BOM
33:03
off the table again. What else do we have here?
33:09
I think there's a lot of this is to me like a pretty, I think
33:12
there's still a lot, a lot of value in this part of the draft.
33:14
I think this is to me like the most important part of the draft
33:16
because this is where I think there's a couple names in here
33:19
that are going to like when people leaks type, type of
33:21
players. Some gems hopefully.
33:23
Yeah, some true gems. Nicholas Jackson at 99, I think
33:28
I had him the highest late 6th round, 59th pick.
33:31
But you guys, I don't think. Oh yeah, that's right, Tico
33:34
Damon drafted. Or I think Tico literally has
33:37
him at 1:51 in his rankings. I think I have him ranked too
33:39
high. I just don't.
33:43
I just think right now he's the third chain striker, so any sort
33:46
of ranking lower than that is to me saying that you think he's
33:50
going to go somewhere and I just haven't seen enough movement
33:54
like in these rumors for it for me to start bumping them up.
33:56
Yeah, you. Should go to Wolf.
33:58
Yeah, I mean, I think he he would rather go to United.
34:01
We talked about the how cool that could be, like how good
34:03
that could be or like obviously the answer, the banter of him
34:06
going to Arsenal would be just outstanding, but.
34:10
Yeah, so I think there's a move Chelsea won't I've you know,
34:13
Chelsea does quick business. We've seen it whether they sell
34:16
a player or they buy a player. So I think Nicholas Jackson is
34:20
surplus requirements and he's going to head up.
34:24
Yeah, that's very likely. I also.
34:25
OK, so then what about Ethan Wunieri?
34:28
For me, he just feels like you're you're dropping it back
34:30
up. Did he play on the left last
34:32
season? Barrel.
34:33
Yes, not yes. Yeah, he didn't say.
34:37
Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. He played on the right one.
34:38
That's why he played. On the right, yeah, soccer was
34:40
out. Yeah, that's what I remember.
34:42
OK, cuz he so I just feel like drafting a backup in the ninth
34:47
round. It's just never, like, never
34:49
makes sense to me. Is he a striker?
34:51
When he already knows he's closer to A10, he's closer.
34:53
To a 10? Is he closer to a 10?
34:55
I think they see his long term feature more like an Odegard
34:57
role. OK, yeah, maybe.
35:01
I think I might have gone too high.
35:02
I'm gonna have to change that. I got him at the end of the
35:05
beginning of the tenth round 91 with the idea that he could get
35:09
some stars. But I thought for some reason,
35:12
for some reason I thought he'd play on the left.
35:13
I thought he'd be battling fucking Martinelli on that left
35:15
hand side. Honestly that would be the ideal
35:17
situation if they move him on the left side so he could play
35:20
at the same time as Sakhan. Wouldn't be his backup and
35:23
obviously Martinelli isn't. Probably would be nothing.
35:26
Upgrade. Yeah, because with Nani Matawaki
35:28
there, he wouldn't be Saka's backup.
35:30
He'd be Nani's backup. You know, I don't think that
35:34
would. What?
35:35
Yeah, I mean, that's what I mean.
35:37
I think it's maybe. I think, yeah, he's even further
35:40
down the pecking order all of a sudden.
35:41
Yeah. So I don't love it.
35:44
Cecil Young to me is not that interesting because of the
35:47
position change. I thought he was only really
35:49
that exciting because he was a classified as a defender and
35:52
they had him playing as like like a like a forward.
35:56
But he's still. Produced when he was on, he did
36:00
well. He's still produced on that left
36:01
hand side when he played. Even if he was, I know it was
36:03
bare as him as a defender and I think we've got got more points
36:06
and well, I think we're at a 95th pick.
36:09
I think that's still value there, especially on a Fulham
36:12
team that you know, has Raul Jimenez that he can cross the
36:16
ball to and score goals. So I also the other thing with
36:18
him is like he didn't, it's like he started tons and tons of
36:20
games. There's like he came in like
36:21
midway through the season, started like less than seven
36:24
games and then had some really good results and then like
36:28
didn't really do much after. That who's on the left, who's on
36:31
the left, who's on the who's on the left for Fulham?
36:34
I don't think there's that much. Let me look.
36:37
I mean, it's kind of shifted over time.
36:40
I mean, obviously William was out there.
36:42
They had Andre Pereira that would sometimes go out there.
36:44
Because Ferrari plays on the right.
36:46
They're pulling up the full and let's see what their last game,
36:48
let's see what their line it was for the very last game it was
36:51
Ferrari on the left, Pereira Wilson with Jimenez up top.
36:56
So I don't know, I just feel like I just, I don't know, it
37:02
just feels like banking on a lot of that like goodwill from last
37:05
year, which I'm not sure how much I believe in.
37:08
Well, sweet guys, what else we've seen?
37:09
I think there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of names
37:11
here that I'd like not mad at getting.
37:13
I think like the Tigo, you call that Matteus Nunez in the past.
37:15
I think that's very interesting. I think the only thing there
37:19
would be is a obviously if City gets someone else and be just
37:22
rotation concerns. Yeah.
37:24
It's just like if you have the city position and from what I've
37:28
been seeing, they're like, oh, he might not be the regular
37:31
start at the right back. So it's kind of concerning to
37:33
hear that, but I think the upside is there.
37:35
Yeah, I kind of agree. I think people are really
37:38
excited about Michael Cody. I think the only concern there
37:41
is just the amount of the amount of starts.
37:44
It wasn't like this massive amount of starts and then we're
37:46
talking about a bread routine that as a new coach.
37:47
And so there's just so much uncertainty because he wasn't
37:49
this like established player. He was a player that was just
37:51
starting to kind of get under his, you know, got his feet
37:56
under him from a playing perspective.
37:58
So so yeah. Any anyone else that kind of
38:01
speaks to you? I thought it was pretty cool how
38:03
all of us had who was it? There was a player who were like
38:07
right ranked around the same time.
38:10
Dan Burn cop I lost it. No, Mikolenko, 9697.
38:16
We haven't, right? Yeah, 94.
38:19
That's kind of funny, yeah. Those those few players that we
38:22
all agreed on, there's only one that we actually completely
38:24
agreed on. Georgina Ruder is interesting
38:26
too from Brian. I think we talked we're talking
38:28
rotation there. That's concerning.
38:31
Matt. Matt's Weifer, I think we all
38:32
like I have him the lowest at 70.
38:36
I just think that we've talked about him.
38:38
He's kind of been like one of my guys.
38:39
I've been champion Chico. You like Esteval William.
38:42
I kind of like him too, but you like him even more.
38:44
I think too. This is this just feels like the
38:47
type of lottery pick that you'd hope to get later in a draft.
38:49
And I feel like at like even at 75, like when I really think
38:52
about that, like I'm probably not taking him.
38:53
There and, and who's where's he going to play and who's he going
38:57
to take over on that Chelsea thing?
38:59
No, you got right wing. Who's on the right wing?
39:02
Palmer can play there, Netzo can play there.
39:05
Honestly, after the Club World Cup, I did kind of after the
39:09
final, I kind of changed my opinion of it where he should be
39:12
drafted just because how the team looked good in the
39:15
formation they played, but that was also reshamed in the
39:18
midfield. So I think Chelsea might be a
39:20
frustrating team as well as far as like the rotation deciding to
39:22
be steady lineup outside of the some key players.
39:25
So I think that's going to be a little interesting.
39:27
But he has someone I kind of want to draft just because I
39:29
think he could have some magical games for moments.
39:32
He looks like a good player. I think it's a question of if
39:35
he's going to see the field enough and especially see the
39:38
field enough for seventh round pick. 18 years old, first year
39:43
in the in England, first year in the, you know, coming from
39:46
Brazil. So it's going to be interesting
39:47
how he holds up. Yeah, totally.
39:52
Other names on here, I think Josco Vardiol I think we're a
39:56
little bit weary of just because his positionally not playing on
39:59
the left back anymore as Nori's position.
40:03
Lewis Hall I personally really like.
40:05
I think if you look at his points per start, it's
40:07
surprisingly highly. I think people don't really
40:09
realize how good of a season he had last.
40:11
Year this is ADP mate. I'm curious because I.
40:14
Think ADP asking a question. Current ADP is 66.8.
40:19
Oh man, yeah, we're back on low. He is, Yeah, maybe I mean his
40:25
his points per start was 10.7 last year with 24 starts.
40:29
That's really good. And what about ghost points that
40:31
start? Was that clean sheets?
40:33
9.4 ghost points per start, which is also solid.
40:36
His WAR was almost one at .94, which is also very good for a
40:41
for a player. So I think he's one of those
40:43
guys that maybe is flying on the radar, radar a little bit that I
40:45
like. I think another one is Carlos
40:47
Alcaraz. What were you going to say?
40:50
And anyone else? I mean, there's a lot of names
40:51
here that I'm I'm still pretty hot on.
40:53
I really like Carlos Alcaraz. I think Ellie Anderson's
40:56
interesting with with Morgan's white going.
41:01
Obviously there's like the caveat that it's like James
41:03
Mcatee or like someone else goes there.
41:05
Then that changes and he probably slots back that he
41:08
slots back into a deeper role. But I think that's there's
41:10
something intriguing there. I personally like Beto.
41:12
I know Chico, you are hotter on Barry.
41:15
I think that's how it gets to starts at the beginning of the
41:17
season and just hoping I can almost like wait you out to drop
41:20
Barry, pick him up, you know like that type of like I think
41:24
you, I think a lot of people that dropped Barry, if he
41:26
doesn't start in the first like 5 weeks, then you can maybe like
41:29
sneakily draft if you miss him in drafts.
41:33
That's kind of my thought process there.
41:35
I think Indi is interesting and like I'm kind of sleeping on
41:38
Everton players. We got to the the Louis DS
41:41
situation where I have a rank 30 TK, you have a rank 20 and so
41:44
you have not ranked where is you're a coward.
41:47
I'm not a coward because I don't think he should be ranked by
41:52
anybody else, not just by myself, shouldn't be drafted.
41:57
Ishmael Osara will be interesting I think.
42:00
Fucking bastard, Yorgun Shran Larsson I like a lot because I
42:03
think he's going to get more, he's going to get starts and
42:05
he's going to be the the focal point of that attack.
42:07
I I agree. I just, I just wonder if he's
42:10
gonna be remotely good without Cunha there.
42:13
And like, if there's gonna be like there's gonna be enough
42:15
creativity, like, like supply for him, you know?
42:18
Yeah, that'll be my concern because I also like, I, I liked
42:21
watching Jurgen String last year, last year.
42:22
Like he runs so hard as like kind of a psycho and as big and
42:26
knocks people, knocks into people.
42:27
Like, he's pretty entertaining in that sense.
42:30
I I'm generally just all Wolf's players.
42:33
I don't. I think they're gonna be battled
42:35
for relegation. So we like Larson, but is he
42:39
going to be able to produce without Kunia there?
42:41
I think it's going to be very difficult for him.
42:43
Yeah, totally agree, everyone. Misaka, we have a ranked Tiko or
42:47
Enzo, you have a ranked Lois, which is interesting given
42:49
you're like a version of offenders in general.
42:51
But Tiko you have a rank a little bit higher at at 82.
42:54
You just not you're not a believer that he can do the same
42:57
thing. That's like next season or this
42:59
coming season again, which was just have like very solid
43:01
numbers on both sides of the field.
43:04
Yeah, and I, I'm also down on West Ham as a team.
43:06
Overall, I don't think they're going to be that good.
43:10
So I just didn't didn't reckon that high plays from West Ham in
43:13
general. They played so well last season.
43:17
OK, OK. Well I'm just going by what you
43:19
said about what's his name, Munoz, like you you're going
43:23
from last season and how they play and that they can reproduce
43:27
like 1 was soccer had a good, good season last season.
43:30
I think he had good points for start.
43:31
I think he had a good ghost points if I remember correctly.
43:33
Yeah, he was solid. I think all his numbers were
43:35
good. Remember we did that Ghost
43:36
points, we did that Ghost Point episode a few while back.
43:40
You can check it, check it out. I think it was maybe two or
43:43
three episodes ago. His ghost points for start is
43:46
like, what is that? That's that right, 10.8 Yeah,
43:51
that's pretty darn good. Ghost points for start.
43:53
You know, he's actually, he's one of the character.
43:54
Oh, it's so funny guys. So remember last episode we were
43:57
looking at Anthony Robinson and we're like, how is it possible
44:00
that his yeah, points per star is lower than his ghost points
44:03
per star? Joe messaged me and Joe is like,
44:06
lol, you guys. It's because his he got so many
44:08
negative points from letting goals in which it was like
44:11
obvious in hindsight and in the moment we're just like, what the
44:13
hell. But that's what it is.
44:14
And so one of the socks is the same or one of the sock.
44:16
His points per star was 10, but his ghost points were started
44:18
was 10.8. OK, that's good.
44:21
It's very good, very good. And then we got into some
44:23
interesting there's like I think there's a there's such an
44:26
interesting thing in these rounds where you're there's
44:27
you're looking at some guys that you know are gonna start and
44:30
then you're looking at like a Jacob Murphy.
44:32
You just don't know if he's gonna play.
44:34
And so then like you're, you're you're banking.
44:36
And like knowing that last year he was he had a phenomenal
44:39
season, but they got Anthony a Linga.
44:41
And so it's just like how much is he, how much playing time is
44:43
he gonna get? And like, I'd say the same thing
44:45
about it like a Noni Maduet K And then it's like, would you
44:48
rather have a guy like that or would you ever rather have like
44:50
an Ishmael star who's pretty sure he's going to play a lot at
44:52
Abbeville City? Pretty sure he's going to play a
44:53
lot. You know, it's like this is that
44:57
this is you have some tough decisions in these rounds for
44:59
those types of players for sure. I'm thinking they start with
45:02
Jacob Murphy. For me.
45:03
Newcastle, I think they started what they have.
45:05
I know they spent what, 55,000,000 on Elango and I think
45:09
Elango's a good player, but they got a player in Jacob Murphy and
45:12
they're going to. It's going to be his position to
45:14
lose. It all depends on how he starts.
45:18
Yeah, by agree of Ismail Lasar. I think he's going to have a
45:21
little bit more game time. He's he's like a value picker.
45:24
I think in the layer rounds. Evan Nielsen, we know what he
45:28
can do. I think you think you hope that
45:30
he can do a little bit more than he did last season.
45:33
But you know, as long as Kluver, is that how you say it, Tico, as
45:39
long as as long as he's there, I think he can help him get more
45:43
Kluver, more points than himself.
45:46
Way too gold dependent. Very gold.
45:48
Dependent. He doesn't score that much.
45:50
And then another name we've been kind of like talking about a lot
45:54
is Simon and Dingra. I'm 71 and you have 58.
45:57
Tigo, you have 64. You guys are giving me crop for
46:01
drafting him in the seventh round in a draft.
46:03
And so you're giving me a crop while you you haven't ranked?
46:07
58 so I didn't move a Dingra, forgot to move him.
46:10
I had him 58 when he was at Bryant.
46:13
So really. Yeah.
46:16
Interesting, so you actually rated him higher Brighton than
46:18
you do? Yeah, because of course Jon
46:21
Pedro was gone, so I thought he'd get more game time.
46:23
I understand by the way I look at it, I see like names like the
46:27
midfielders that are going around him, like the the the
46:31
Jacob Murphy's, the no no matter what case.
46:34
And I just think like I know Adinger is going to play every
46:37
single game. And so I like he's not like
46:40
going to be like potentially a home run type guy, but he's
46:43
like, if you have a couple other really solid midfielders and you
46:46
just you need a guy that you really just couldn't depend on
46:48
there. I think that's that's to me
46:49
seems like the type of play that I'm looking at.
46:51
I just don't see something to do it what they and they picked up
46:54
what Jordan Henderson also and he's going to start every game
46:57
probably for them, but I just don't see Simon Dinger being as
47:01
impactful on Sunderland as he as he would have been on Bryant.
47:05
They're going to be doing a lot of defending.
47:07
Yeah, fair enough, Fair enough. Who else do we have here that
47:11
we're liking? I think Tarkowski is always
47:14
criminally under drafted or like underrated in his what he does.
47:18
He's again like a top 20 player again this year.
47:20
He like seems to always kind of land in there.
47:22
I'm ranked accordingly. Tikko does 2.
47:25
And so you're just not a believer in general?
47:27
Yeah, I'm just trying to stay away from too many defenders.
47:31
I like James Tarkowski. I think, yeah, you know, again,
47:33
I think I fucked up by putting my 7 ninths, but I'm looking
47:37
more for fours and midfielders. I can get me points.
47:40
So we're all in agreement on Shirky too, like kind of like
47:42
585551. I would be curious to see what
47:45
his ADP is because I think I might be lower than that.
47:49
He is right now is ADP is out, It's like we're in that same
47:51
space. So he's going in like ADP is
47:53
52.5. I think he's like one of those
47:57
guys that could be a huge upside play, but it's just it's a
47:59
matter of it's like he's the type of guy that can see getting
48:01
like 11 points, 11 plus points per start, but only starting
48:04
like 18 games. Yeah, it's it's that rotation,
48:08
it's that man see headache and is, is he the guy or is Foden it
48:12
it what play do you think has to not do well on that team for him
48:15
to get some starts? That has to be Foden right?
48:18
If Foden starts? Yeah, Foden, I mean, there's
48:23
also a possibility that like if Marmusias are playing well and
48:26
like, you know, I think, I think that's another option there.
48:29
So it's interesting. It's interesting.
48:34
Who else do we have here in the top 50?
48:37
Sloba Sly, what do you like? I feel like people are just not
48:41
excited about it this year. And I think Tito, you said you
48:43
always talk about you're awesome, you're done, correct?
48:45
It's yeah, it's more of just cuz I've had it for two years in a
48:48
row and he he he's not one of those players that will get you
48:52
like 881011, he's like 3/2/2013 and then 00.
48:58
So it's just one of those players.
49:00
He usually gets drafted highest for the midfielder just because,
49:03
you know, he plays for Liverpool and he's also a good player.
49:05
But I just don't think the consistency is there, even
49:07
though last year he had a good better year.
49:10
And also, I feel like the that's two years in a row where his
49:14
year has gradually gunned down towards the end of the year.
49:17
His his points and everything. Yeah.
49:20
And then rounding out at 50 Jean Felipe Matetta 564752 all kind
49:27
of the same area. I like him in general.
49:31
And I think we all were kind of fans of what he what he does.
49:33
And I think it's, you know, I just where are we as a leaves?
49:37
Are we super off him? Does that change your guys's
49:40
opinion at all? I think he just produces.
49:43
I don't think it's going to change that much because last
49:46
year at least I want he still produced very similar numbers.
49:49
I think he at this point, he is what he is.
49:52
Which is just a solid striker, was that stronger but not
49:55
spectacular. A Forward 2A, Forward 3 or
49:58
forward? Too.
49:59
I think that you could probably get everything with a forward
50:01
too, depending on your team instruction, right?
50:03
Yeah. Yeah.
50:05
I. Mean you're not mad if it's your
50:06
second forward. Yeah, yeah.
50:09
Yeah, like where he's going, where he's going in drops.
50:11
That's kind of makes sense as well.
50:13
I. Think and as long as your first
50:15
forward is a fucking point fucking machine you you'd be
50:19
fine by having a second. Yeah.
50:22
OK, OK. Any other news we want to talk
50:23
about in this kind of like the 100 to 50 range before we go
50:27
down? You guys were making such a good
50:29
time. This might just be one single.
50:30
This might just be 1 episode I think.
50:36
Gakba we talked about earlier, Sade can kind of skip on that
50:40
Sade. He's now a forward, man.
50:42
He's now a forward. Which is good, I think.
50:46
I think he really started coming on at the end of the season.
50:48
I think my concern is just the Bretford situation.
50:50
Again, I feel like we've like been beating this over the head.
50:52
That's like there's just so much uncertainty with what's going to
50:54
happen there. So look, but with and Bwimpo
50:58
going, isn't he like he's like a shoo in now just to start, but.
51:02
He kind of starts out to laugh and he plays a different role.
51:05
You know, it's like he's, you know, but yeah, I mean, maybe
51:09
he's really fast. He's really good in the air.
51:11
He's quite a quite a few header goals at the end of the season.
51:15
I don't know, I just feel like I I kind of like him, but in that
51:18
area I've just found that there's other guys like I'd
51:21
probably like wait and hope to pick up like an Emmerdale soon.
51:28
You know you. You'd skip.
51:31
Maybe, I don't know, I think it's I mean so so team
51:33
dependent. It's so like where you're at
51:34
drops and stuff. So much evidence obviously, but
51:38
he had really good numbers like his, his points were starting
51:40
numbers were pretty solid for someone who was like off weight,
51:44
like you could like you like robbed him.
51:45
You could get him off waivers in some of these last year.
51:47
That's true. That's true.
51:49
And I think it's crazy how you have Virgil and back ranked
51:52
idiot who? Virgil Oh yeah, gourmet if.
51:56
Yeah, I think that's absolutely, absolutely.
51:59
Yeah, what do you want me to? I think was he was a top 20
52:02
defender. He was a top 20 player last year
52:04
I'm pretty sure. Let me see, Kevin Shawn, 11.1
52:08
points per start. But the thing with him is,
52:10
Jesus, man, his ghost points per start was 6.6.
52:15
That's crazy though, yeah. But it could be different this
52:19
season because I think he's going to get more starts and I
52:21
think he's going to have more of an integral part of the of the
52:24
offense. OK, I hear that I'm not.
52:27
Like that's why I think. Vitally opposed to it.
52:31
Yeah, and after that, well, I don't even feel good about Chris
52:34
Wood in the seventh round that we got him in 616063.
52:38
So I just don't think that team's, that non and Forest
52:41
team's going to be the fucking same and nor is he going to
52:43
score 20 plus goals again. I think we're all, I think
52:46
everyone's starting to feel that way, right?
52:48
I think he's just been dropping and dropping and dropping.
52:50
I think, yeah, at some point he's going to start off.
52:54
He's going to start being a value though.
52:55
Yeah. Don't you say?
52:57
I mean, I think like after Jordan Strand Larsen and like
53:03
Beto and like after that, like, I think it's like a huge value,
53:07
yeah. You'd have to.
53:08
I'd be more comfortable drafting him later on, maybe the eighth
53:11
round even. Eighth round.
53:13
He's not going to be there. Yeah, but that's the only time I
53:15
feel comfortable drafting him. Yeah, yeah, I get it.
53:18
I think someone will take the take the chance he's just going
53:20
to knock in a few, you know, But I think without, I mean, losing
53:24
Gibbs, Wyatt, losing a Linga, I think I also think the other
53:28
thing too is like it's a pretty good coach over there.
53:31
Like, you know, as far as Sando's done a really good job.
53:34
So I like I don't think it's that end of the world to just
53:38
like gamble on him later like as you're what, four and three.
53:41
If you have Chris, what is your four and three?
53:42
You're not mad. Yeah.
53:44
Right. No, I don't think so.
53:45
Maybe even your forward too, but I think that's where that's
53:47
probably he's like a thin forward too.
53:49
Yeah, yeah. I still wouldn't feel confident
53:51
forward too. Forward three, yes, yeah.
53:54
All right, all right. What else?
53:58
Who else? Is there anyone else that we go
54:00
into the next? Section, I'm surprised that you
54:01
got Liam de Lapp solo, even if he is second string to Jao
54:04
Pedro. You've said it before, Jao Pedro
54:07
being so flexible and versatile, like the lap's going to get some
54:10
starts and honestly in the Club World Cup when he came on,
54:13
especially even in that final, he showed some like
54:16
explosiveness and he had a couple like close bangers ache
54:19
he nearly got. You are correct and maybe I need
54:23
to move him down a little bit. I think my thought process is
54:26
that in these rounds like the late fit or in these numbers
54:29
like the late 50s or the 60s, I want guys that I know are going
54:32
to be starting games and I just don't there's no guarantee.
54:36
Like I look at like an Evan Nielsen, I look at you by Simon
54:38
Odinga, those are guys that you are pretty nailed on to start a
54:42
lot, a lot of games, right yeah, let's same reason that like
54:45
maybe like a Cody Gackpo, I probably am not going to be
54:47
drafting in a lot of leagues. I just don't see the pathway for
54:50
him to be starting 30 plus games this season.
54:53
Go ahead. You know, we're like Wheeling at
54:54
Kevin Shaw and stuff like that. Like I see that path.
54:57
Yeah. So all right, guys, close it
54:59
out. Keith, this has been episode 98
55:01
of Dropped Off Sides. My name is Keith.
55:02
I'm with Tico Enzo. Follow us at Dropped Off Sides
55:05
everywhere. This has been a fun one.
55:07
It's been a long one, but yeah, it's fun.
55:10
Like looking over and rankings through a lot of a lot of the
55:13
good stuff comes out of this. So hopefully you enjoyed it.