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Laura Visconti of Drink Coffee Do Stuff is a Coffee Person. · Coffee People Podcast

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  Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of the Copy People
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  podcast. I'm your host Ryan Wolf.
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  We're on location today in Reno, NV at drink coffee do stuff, one
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  of their new stores. Our guest is the Co founder,
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  co-owner, photographer Laura Visconti.
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  Laura Lawson Visconti. I don't.
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  Know all of the. Above all of the above, welcome
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  to the show. Thank you so much.
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  Thanks for having me. I know your husband Nick
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  Visconti's story a little bit. We talked about his whole
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  mountain epiphany stuff with the coffee.
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  I'm wondering if you had any previous coffee experience or
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  what got you into in the 1st place or how you let into like,
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  oh I don't know, owning a bunch of coffee shops?
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  That's a great place to start. I was kind of like a Starbucks
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  matcha gal pre Nick Visconti, so he definitely opened my eyes to
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  the possibility of what coffee could be.
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  That being said, I want to say that we sort of fell into it
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  together simultaneously. I always loved doing exactly
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  what we're doing right now, so meeting up with friends at
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  coffee shops, having great conversations and connecting.
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  Didn't know much about specialty coffee until Instagram was
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  released in 2010. I was one of the first MY.
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  Goodness, was it 2010? Isn't that crazy?
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  It's 2025 now, OK. It's been a long time.
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  So I was living in the Bay Area at the time and was one of the
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  first people to download the app to start using it regularly and
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  then subsequently became one of the first influencers on the
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  platform. Not planned.
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  That word was not was not something we all used in our
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  regular vernacular. But at the time, like showing
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  what you ate for lunch and like kind of a cool, artsy way was
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  like what people were posting. This is way before like how it
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  is now, reels and all of that. And so posting beautiful latte
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  art was sort of like a trend, early trend.
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  And so I would take Barton to San Francisco and would go to
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  Blue Bottle and order whatever I just saw on the menu.
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  I'm like, I don't know what a cappuccino is, but I'm just
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  gonna order that. Maybe this time I'll try a
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  latte. I don't know what I don't know
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  what the difference is. And and and so I would start
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  ordering like beautiful drinks specifically to post on
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  Instagram again, this is this is don't judge me.
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  This is way back from a long time ago.
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  And then I began going to 4 barrel in the Mission in San
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  Francisco and, and sight glass and started like my, my coffee
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  journey initially evolved really through that aesthetics of
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  appreciating beautiful beverages.
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  And then I began to realize this is like really, really good.
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  So right around that same time, Nick and I started dating and he
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  was really getting into coffee and like his snowboarding
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  journey was evolving. And so we moved up to Seattle at
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  the same time and we both started working at a third wave
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  shop up there. And then dot dot dot, a couple
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  years later we moved to Tahoe and started drink coffee, do
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  stuff together. And I just want to clarify, I'm
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  not really the coffee person in the relationship.
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  Like he's the one, he's the, he's the coffee nerd, he's the
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  one, you know, he's the roaster, all of that.
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  So I bring my creativity, you know, to the whole, to the whole
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  world of DCDS. So the marketing, the
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  photography content, everything website.
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  So my official title is art director.
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  So that's that's what I do. Well, and but that you're still
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  a coffee person. I mean, you're in that world.
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  You're you're part of it. I think that's what makes it a
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  unique industry is that it connects so many different
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  people. Whether you know how many total
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  dissolved solids are in your coffee or not doesn't mean
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  you're not a coffee person, right?
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  If you've ever been to a cupping or a latte throwdown, you just I
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  enjoy the people watching at those offense because it's so it
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  really does attract people from all these different walks of
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  life and there's not necessarily a commonality or common
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  denominator between them other than appreciation for really
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  good coffee, which is cool. It's like any other.
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  I would say niche, like hobby, except it's not niche.
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  Like 98% of the world loves coffee, but there are people who
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  really love a very specific part of it.
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  And I I like that coffee shops can be a melting pot of all
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  those different people. Someone just grabbing a coffee
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  on their way to work, somebody who wants to get nerdy about it.
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  You know, a place, this place has been a line out the door
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  since I got here like hours ago. We're talking about photography
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  and art directing and the viewpoint.
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  I want to just kind of reference quickly, you have a degenerative
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  vision disease. Yes, I want to.
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  I think I got this right. Retinitis pigmentosa.
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  Wow, that was great A plus. Off the top of my head.
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  RP for short. RP but what it means is
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  eventually blindness is potential, right?
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  Yes, and it's been affecting you for most of your adult life.
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  Yep. Great, I got all the details.
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  I did a little research. Today.
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  Yeah, absolutely. How has that impacted your, I
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  don't want to say ability, but how has it changed how you
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  approach art and creativity? And if that relates back to
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  drink coffee, do stuff great. But if not, you know just how
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  does it change your day-to-day? That's a great question.
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  So I was diagnosed with RP while in art school in Laguna Beach in
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  Southern California at the same time, the same year actually,
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  that Instagram was released. So again, I, I hate to keep
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  bringing up, you know, Instagram, but but at the time
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  it was such a, a huge part of my journey and my story.
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  So I was a painter still. I am a painter, but a lot of
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  myself expression came from the fact that I could no longer
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  drive. I was diagnosed with this
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  incredibly rare degenerative condition and I, at the age of
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  22, had to give up my driver's license, start taking public
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  transit. I I had always ridden a bike but
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  had to start using a bike for transportation, which at the
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  time I was I begrudged and now I truly love which is funny how
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  that happens. It gets after.
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  Yes, I started running. I'm now a trail runner.
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  Running became literally a way of getting from point A to point
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  B. I started walking everywhere.
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  And so what's the best camera that you have with you is or
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  the, the best camera they say is the one you have with you.
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  So my iPhone was with me and I started documenting, you know,
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  the things I saw on my journeys. Maybe I was going to the nail
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  salon or going to the local coffee shop.
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  And that used to take 5 minutes. Now it took 20 or or 30.
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  And so I had all this time to sort of like pray and meditate
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  and, and sort of give like put myself through therapy sessions
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  of what this new normal was going to look like.
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  And so I would document those journeys on my iPhone and post
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  those moments on Instagram. And so photography quickly
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  became an escape for me, a way of documenting what I was going
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  through. And so of course, it started on
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  the iPhone. And then I eventually got a
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  camera and, and started shooting.
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  And it's, it's just crazy when you look back on, you know, that
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  was such a painful point in my life and such a turning point.
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  But like, so much good has come from that and it's just, it's
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  just super cool because like, it's so hard to even imagine
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  like what my life would look like today if it weren't for
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  that journey. So I would say in some respects
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  it's forced me to think way outside the box.
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  IEI don't drive, but I'm a photographer, so if I'm shooting
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  clients or working on a brand shoot, you know, I can't drive
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  there. So I have to figure out
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  logistics. So that can be like embarrassing
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  and frustrating and difficult. And my husband, Nick and I work
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  really close, hand in hand. So if you talk to him for, let's
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  say, 10 minutes, at some point in the conversation he's gonna
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  reference how much he drives because we're the opposite.
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  He has to drive a ton and all over the place, and then I have
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  to rely on him. So we've had to really
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  orchestrate our business, our life, our schedule, where we
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  live, the way we raise our kids, based on the fact that I have
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  this impairment and it really prohibits a lot of things in my
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  life. And then it brings about a lot
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  of really cool opportunity too. And so the way that's affected
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  art, I'd say it's more logistics than anything.
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  I still see well enough to to paint or to draw or to shoot
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  photos of a camera. So I don't have any peripheral
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  vision at all. This is all gone.
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  I just see tunnel vision, what's straight ahead in front of me.
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  So actually looking through a camera lens is pretty cool
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  because if it's a wider lens, I can kind of look through the
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  viewfinder and then my whole world expands and I can see
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  normally, which is pretty rad. So that's kind of been been a
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  cool. Yeah, just just a journey.
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  It's help to me. Definitely appreciate the time
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  that I have. Thankfully my condition is
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  progressing really, really slowly.
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  Some people with my condition progress really fast and there's
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  not a rhyme or reason as to why that is.
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  My doctor at UCSF is like, I don't know what you're doing
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  right, but keep doing it, you're doing great.
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  And so while my condition could potentially lead to full
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  blindness, I do consider myself blind currently.
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  Blindness is a spectrum, so most blind people you see are not
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  100% blind. Most people have some element of
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  vision, even if it's just a light perception.
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  Almost every blind person has a small amount of vision still
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  left. Very few people are 100%.
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  I've gone of course, that exists as well.
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  So I am definitely a part of that blind and visually impaired
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  community. I don't walk with a cane,
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  probably should in certain situations, but I but I don't.
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  And so it's really, you know, it's like hard to even tell that
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  I am visually impaired and I do fall into that category.
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  So I don't even really talk about it that much because it's
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  like I try to not be defined by it, right?
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  Or let it affect what I can and can't do.
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  Like I said, logistically it doesn't make life more
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  challenging. Particularly now that I'm a mom
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  and have kids. There's been some adjustments
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  and some coordination that has to happen.
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  Flexibility, it affects my business dramatically.
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  There's a lot that I cannot do Let's say they're low on change
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  and they need someone to run to the bank and like get changed.
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  Well, I can't necessarily do that or they're out of milk and
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  they just need someone to run to the grocery store and pick up a
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  couple gallons of milk before the milk delivery arrives that
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  day. I can't do those things, so I
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  can't. It's sort of robbed me in some
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  respects of feeling like a true business owner, but in other So
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  I feel like I have to almost compensate, let's say, for what
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  I can do. But but, but also, I think
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  that's really cool because I think a lot of business owners
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  feel like they wear way too many hats.
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  And so they do have to do all these different things.
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  And it's really forced us to really not dissect, but
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  determine, Hey, you do this, Our business partner does this, Nick
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  does this, our managers do this and everyone has their role and
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  it's worked out really, really well for us.
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  So we're grateful for that. I've had so many kind of
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  thoughts running through my head.
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  So I was a a non driver with the rare cross country road trip
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  exception for a long time with your condition.
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  And then just the idea of like being somebody who's a daily
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  commuter, the idea that you would live somewhere that is say
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  walkable or a smaller community or you could get somewhere would
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  be appealing. It's appealing to me just as a
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  person, a biking community, you know, I love that idea.
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  But instead, you guys have gone the other way and you're
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  expanding across state lines, California and Nevada multiple.
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  Mountain ranges, yeah. Mountain ranges, what made you
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  guys decide to make the leap from the California locations of
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  which I think there's not including the Raleigh's
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  locations 3 right? Yeah, so we've.
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  Here in Reno. Yeah.
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  So really, really good question. So we're currently sitting in
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  location #4 which as of today was opened about six or seven
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  weeks ago. Location #5 is also coming to
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  Reno later this year, So we're we're working on that one
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  currently that will also be a roastery which will be rad.
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  So yes, we initially started the roastery in Truckee in
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  California. Our first retail physical brick
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  and mortar shop was an Incline Village, which is Nevada.
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  Then we opened at downtown Truckee, which is California,
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  South Lake, which is California then here in in Reno, NV.
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  So Tahoe is a really interesting place and very challenging from
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  a business operating perspective because health permitting works
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  differently. I'm sitting that's just my
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  stuff, but feel free to move it. Yeah, yes, please do yes, love
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  your love your guys's brewery, by the way.
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  Yeah, yes, absolutely. So yeah, really challenging
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  health codes are different. We're, we're talking multiple
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  states, we're talking multiple counties, multiple cities.
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  And everyone like has a different, you know, thing that
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  they're looking for that they need.
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  So thankfully when we, we're opening shop #4 this one, we
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  sort of knew, OK, like health is going to want to see this, this
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  and this. So we had it pretty dialed and
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  thankfully there wasn't like a lot we needed to change by the
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  time the health inspector came. But but more so like from a
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  broader big picture, it definitely presents a lot of
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  challenges, but it's so rad and so unique too.
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  And there's just not, I mean, now there's more coffee
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  happening in the Reno Tahoe region, but when we started DCS
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  in 2017, there wasn't as much. And so we saw ourselves kind of
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  filling that niche of the third wave specialty roaster roasting
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  an altitude in the mountains. Nick is from Trekkie, so for him
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  it was like a no brainer. I didn't really have a say in
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  the matter actually. It was like, we're gonna come to
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  Tahoe and we're gonna start drink coffee, do stuff there.
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  And it really does connect with the lifestyle.
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  Of course people drink coffee and then they they get on their
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  mountain bike, they get on their their wake, surf, whatever it is
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  and they go do stuff. So yeah, of course that's been
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  challenging for me in my situation, which is super
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  unique. But the business itself has has
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  just massively like blown up and done so well here.
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  We're so grateful for that. We're so grateful for every
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  customer that comes in. And it still really blows us
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  away, actually, how well people receive the coffee and love it.
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  This location in particular is a little different because it's
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  not tourist dependent, I don't think, correct.
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  So I mean, I know it's new, but have you seen that difference?
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  Because the locations I've been to previously on the other side,
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  it seems like yes, there are locals, but there's also a lot
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  of people who are just there for a weekend or a day or an event
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  or gambling at the casino or whatever, right.
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  But this feels like if you if the neighborhood doesn't like
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  you, it's a different experience.
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  Very much so. And that's a great question.
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  So yes, we were pretty nervous opening this location.
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  We're in a strip mall now. It's a nice strip mall.
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  It's a beautiful strip mall, but there's there's not.
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  I wouldn't have called it a strip mall.
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  I would have called it a shopping.
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  Community shopping center Yeah, strip mall might might be harsh,
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  but shopping center and there's not this ability driving by
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  right to see the sign so. I did see your A-frame though.
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  Thank you. When I pulled it.
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  Thank you. That is saving our butts right
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  now, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Reno has a moratorium on external signage and shopping
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  centers because they overdid it with billboards and messaging
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  over the years. So they're trying to really
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  classy it up a little bit. So we can't have like a big sign
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  at the entrance of the at the street or anything like that.
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  And we do rely on tourist traffic at our other locations.
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  All three of them are right by a main road and you can see them
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  driving by. And while each shop has a little
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  bit of a different ratio with tourist versus local, they all
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  do of course rely on on tourist traffic.
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  This location's super different. I will say on opening day, I was
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  surprised, you know, meeting every single customer, talking
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  every single one. I was surprised how many
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  tourists there were. So that was a little surprising
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  to me. I think today, on a day like
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  today, this is probably 100% locals, but it's been really
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  cool. It's it's really filled a need
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  in the in the market here. We were, yeah.
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  We were super nervous, not just for the visibility and the and
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  the drive by traffic, but just how much of A presence have we
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  actually made in Reno? We've been operating these
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  mountain cafes for years. We've been roasting.
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  So we sell a lot of Raley's on other grocery stores in the
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  area. We have wholesale accounts in
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  Reno, but how much of A demand is there for another shop here
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  in the area? There's not a lot of competition
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  in this particular zone, so we sort of nervously signed the
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  lease and prayed our butts off and just hoped that this was
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  going to work out. And we were really stoked the
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  first couple of days when lying out the door pretty much all day
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  every day. It's been pretty busy this
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  morning. And it's cool.
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  It's like people meeting up with like their Bible study and their
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  home school group and yeah, like families drinking coffee
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  together. And it's just been super, super
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  cool. The weather is beautiful right
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  now, so we're grateful for that. We've had no problem finding
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  wonderful employees here. So honestly, it's been our best
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  opening yet. We we're really grateful for
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  that. And hopefully Midtown will be
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  more of the same in a couple months.
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  The idea that there wasn't a competitor kind of in this zone,
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  as you mentioned it, like it's like this weird thing where
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  like, oh, opportunity, but also is there a reason?
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  Like what do we do? So you're like the first, you're
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  kind of breaking the way of the way you did over there, which
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  kind of leads me to you mentioned your mom and we've
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  been talking a bit about being adaptable and flexible.
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  How do you manage working with your spouse so closely?
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  Also taking care of a kid who probably depends on you, I'm
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  guessing little. How do you work all of that
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  together and and just manage the emotion of it?
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  I would think that like you have like opening businesses, like
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  we're in a place where you could slow down, like just take a
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  break and sit by the lake, right, In theory.
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  But you guys are going the, yeah, you're going the other way
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  with it. And so you have this whole,
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  these multiple worlds. How do you manage all of those
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  emotionally, I guess. Yeah, and ask me to get in a
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  year and I hope you have a really good answer for you.
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  I feel like we're in the thick of it right now and kind of
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  evolving our family and business strategy.
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  I don't want to say day by day, but like season by season, it's
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  it's an evolving conversation of, of the best way to operate
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  for a period of time. All Nick and I did was talk
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  about work because it it didn't feel like work.
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  It felt like, I don't want to say a hobby, but a passion, like
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  something we truly loved that we were building from the ground
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  up. I mean, on our honeymoon 12
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  years ago, he started talking about opening a coffee shop.
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  And from that point on, it's been a part of our daily
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  conversation. And so it used to be just
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  something we talked about constantly and there was really
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  no hard line. And then a couple, I want to say
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  maybe two years ago, he decided he needed a stronger boundary in
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  our marriage, in our family life.
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  I. I always tell my friends this
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  story of like 1 morning, we were kind of like snuggling in bed
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  together, just kind of hanging out on our phones.
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  And my phone like buzzes and it's him emailing me.
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  And I was like, you're, you're right here.
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  But he, he didn't want to like talk about it because we were,
• 20:29
  that was like a home moment, but it was on his mind and he sent
• 20:32
  me an e-mail and I was checking my work e-mail.
• 20:34
  So like, that's the epitome of what it's like.
• 20:39
  And but so we had a hard line for a while of like no more
• 20:43
  conversation about DCS at home kind of at all.
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  And we would need to have meetings really set aside to
• 20:49
  talk about that. We had our first daughter in
• 20:52
  2021 and our second in 2024 last year.
• 20:57
  And so yeah, a lot of our conversation now is about our
• 20:59
  kids and activities and birthday parties we're invited to and all
• 21:03
  of that. So it's definitely evolved and I
• 21:05
  think we're better at leaving work at work.
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  We have also really good managers right now that handle a
• 21:10
  lot of stuff. So we're not getting bugged as
• 21:12
  much. I don't say bugged, but
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  interrupted or contacted as much on a Saturday morning when we're
• 21:17
  with our family, I'm about, Oh my gosh, someone didn't show up
• 21:20
  for a shift, so we've got to run down and help out and cover it.
• 21:23
  That almost never happens anywhere.
• 21:25
  We've just built enough insulation now where we really
• 21:28
  can kind of step away and have that really healthy space and
• 21:32
  boundary. The way it affects our marriage,
• 21:34
  though, can be really challenging.
• 21:35
  Like he's sort of my boss, like Nick's the CEO, he runs the
• 21:38
  company, but and then also I rely on him for, for
• 21:42
  transportation. So there's like kind of a weird
• 21:46
  like dynamic at play there that I think is super, super unique.
• 21:49
  And we we're still, I think figuring out how that's going to
• 21:52
  play out in the long term. But but yeah, like I said, like
• 21:56
  I said earlier, the best way to really combat those challenges
• 21:59
  is to focus on what you're really good at and what you can
• 22:02
  bring to the company that no one else can.
• 22:04
  And and then just stay in your lane, you know, and let other
• 22:06
  people that are really good at what they're doing, they focus
• 22:09
  on that. And so there's no like overlap.
• 22:11
  Oh, did you take care of that? Did you take care of that?
• 22:13
  I thought I'd mention that, but I didn't.
• 22:14
  It's just really cut and dry. Like what Laura does is what
• 22:17
  Laura does. What our business partner does
• 22:19
  is what he does. What Nick does is what he does.
• 22:21
  Well, what is Laura doing third person there for the future of
• 22:25
  this shop? I mean, looking around, I feel
• 22:27
  like there's probably a lot of your influence on the design.
• 22:29
  And I mentioned I have a drink coffee, do stuff hoodie I bought
• 22:33
  last year. How do you kind of keep that
• 22:35
  fingerprint going and as you're expanding into new locations
• 22:39
  that might have different personalities?
• 22:42
  Absolutely right. So Reno is a completely
• 22:44
  different culture than Tahoe. There is overlap, but it is
• 22:47
  different. So for this shop we needed a
• 22:49
  different style. So we chose different
• 22:53
  photography on the walls. We hired a local muralist to
• 22:55
  paint a mural. Hannah Eddie is awesome.
• 22:57
  She's a Reno local with a big following here.
• 23:00
  And other than that, it's kind of like our same menu, but the
• 23:03
  vibe felt different. Obviously we're hiring like Reno
• 23:05
  locals and getting trying to get involved in like local Reno
• 23:09
  events, running clubs, church groups, etcetera.
• 23:13
  So that's kind of my world is reaching that local community.
• 23:17
  I will say we've been really thankful that we haven't needed
• 23:20
  to do a ton of marketing or I don't want to say community
• 23:25
  involvement because of course we're all about community
• 23:27
  involvement, but just from a get the word out standpoint, there
• 23:30
  hasn't been as much to do as we expected, which is kind of cool.
• 23:35
  So, yeah, I think like the the long and we moved to Reno as a
• 23:39
  side note from Tahoe last summer to be closer to the community
• 23:43
  here to be more involved. And that's a big part of it,
• 23:45
  right. Like when we moved to Truckee to
• 23:48
  start drink coffee, do stuff, we lived in the community for two
• 23:51
  years before we started the business.
• 23:52
  And we were of course wanted to be involved and wanted to make
• 23:55
  friends and wanted to to kind of do things.
• 23:58
  But we also really had it in the back of our minds like we're
• 24:00
  going to start a company and it started only as a rosary with no
• 24:04
  brick and mortar. And so we want people to know
• 24:07
  who we are. We can't just start a shop or
• 24:09
  start a brand and then no one's heard of us and we're not
• 24:12
  involved. Nobody knows who we are.
• 24:13
  Like no one is going to support that.
• 24:15
  So to be involved in a community and like serve coffee, well,
• 24:19
  they have to know you. And so since I arrived this
• 24:22
  morning, I saw three faces that I knew that were sitting here.
• 24:25
  And, and so that's a huge part of it.
• 24:28
  It's just simply living your life in the community that your
• 24:31
  shops are in and being involved so that you're supporting the
• 24:34
  endeavors of the people out there.
• 24:35
  And then they're coming in and supporting you and using your
• 24:38
  space as a as a watering hole. So I think just continuing to
• 24:42
  embrace Reno, which is a very different culture and community
• 24:45
  than Tahoe. And not to say that we're not
• 24:47
  involved in Tahoe anymore. We kind of live this weird
• 24:49
  hybrid life where we split, split a lot of our time back and
• 24:52
  forth. But yeah, just spending time
• 24:55
  here, like getting our kids involved here, doing classes,
• 24:58
  going to potentially going to church here.
• 25:00
  Yeah. So it's, it's, it's been an
• 25:02
  adjustment, but it's been awesome.
• 25:03
  It's been a ride. What did I miss today?
• 25:06
  Is there anything that you want people to know about the brand,
• 25:10
  about this shop, or about you? Not really.
• 25:12
  I think honestly just gratitude. We feel really, really blessed,
• 25:18
  really fortunate, really grateful that our business is
• 25:22
  where it's at today. So follow along.
• 25:25
  Like there's so much more to come.
• 25:27
  On one hand, it feels like we've lived 5 lifetimes just since we
• 25:30
  started the business. And then on the other hand,
• 25:31
  we're like, we're just starting to get our sleeves rolled up,
• 25:34
  like we're just getting started. And we just can't wait to see,
• 25:38
  you know, we're Bible believing Christians.
• 25:39
  We can't wait to see where God like takes, takes the, the
• 25:42
  business in the future and just follow along and, and just thank
• 25:46
  you Like it's, it's as simple as that.
• 25:48
  Just really feel tremendous gratitude.
• 25:51
  When you go out into the world and you stop at a coffee shop,
• 25:54
  not one of your shops, some other coffee shops, yes.
• 25:57
  What are you going to order? I always order a cortado.
• 26:01
  I feel like milk texture, you know the, the shot you can taste
• 26:06
  the espresso. That's that's always my go to.
• 26:09
  If it's a lighter roast, I'm going to start feeling really
• 26:11
  kind of jittery and I might not finish it, but let's just go to
• 26:15
  even if it's the middle of July in the afternoon, that's always
• 26:18
  what I'm ordering. You sound like a coffee person.
• 26:20
  I guess I am. Thank you so much for spending
• 26:24
  some time with me. That's our show for today.
• 26:27
  I've got some notes to read. You can find it on all your
• 26:30
  favorite platforms, YouTube, Spotify, Apple.
• 26:33
  You can find ourshowonline@roastwestcoast.com.
• 26:36
  Check out the coffee packaging options at rostar.com.
• 26:39
  Thanks to Laura. Drink coffee, do stuff.
• 26:42
  Drink coffeedostuff.com. I believe it.
• 26:46
  Also, Laura Lawson, visconti.com.
• 26:48
  All these links will be in show notes wherever you're looking at
• 26:51
  it. Thank you for drinking good
• 26:53
  coffee and please tip your baristas.
• 26:55
  Thanks. For having me.
• 26:58
  Cheers. The.
• 27:49
  You have much better posture than I do.
• 27:51
  Posture. Yeah, like actually.
• 27:53
  The name. Posture, yeah, like I could tell
• 27:54
  you like, you sit straight up and I'm just like trying not to
• 27:56
  just like. Select, it's very intentional
• 27:58
  because like I'm in physical therapy, chiropractor, like they
• 28:01
  always tell me that, you know, because I'm mostly like
• 28:03
  computer. Yeah.
• 28:05
  It's funny, I'm in all of those as well, but it still doesn't
• 28:07
  help. I mean, I texted my physical
• 28:11
  therapist yesterday and just said, just so you know, this is
• 28:13
  my second day in a row sleeping on a wooden platform in the car.
• 28:16
  So sorry but. Yeah, also the goo in my back
• 28:20
  isn't working again. How do I fix it?
• 28:21
  Right, right, right, right. Yeah, that's funny.
• 28:24
  Well, that was fun. Thank you for.
• 28:26
  Making it happen. Not too painful, no.
• 28:28
  It was great.