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How To Build Community · The Uplifters

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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the Uplifters Podcast.
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  This is where every week we talk to inspiring midlife women who
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  are doing big,
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  brave things in the world and who generously share their
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  journeys with us so that
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  SPEAKER_03: we can all get new ideas,
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  SPEAKER_03: new inspiration,
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  SPEAKER_03: and maybe boost our own belief and our own capabilities to do big,
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  brave things in midlife and well beyond because I want to still
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  be doing big,
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  SPEAKER_03: brave things in my 90s.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm just practicing and
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  SPEAKER_03: now for the 90-year-old I want to be.
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  SPEAKER_03: And today, you'll meet Corinne Vanderbroek and Edwina White.
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  They're collaborating on an upcoming documentary that I can't
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  wait for you to hear
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  SPEAKER_03: them tell you about called I Got You.
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  In this episode,
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  we're going to talk to Corinne and Edwina about collaboration.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're going to talk about community and
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  SPEAKER_03: And we're going to talk about what it takes to raise money,
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  SPEAKER_03: to get the funding we need in order to do big,
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  brave things and to find the other people who believe in us and
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  support us so that
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  we aren't stuck just doing stuff alone and only taking it as
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  far as one human can
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  SPEAKER_03: take it.
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  SPEAKER_03: but taking it as far as a whole community can take it.
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  SPEAKER_03: So Edwina, Corinne, thank you so much for being here today.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for having us.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for inviting us.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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  and the way this all kind of came to be is that I used to be
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  Corinne's neighbor and
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  SPEAKER_03: always admired her.
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  SPEAKER_03: She was very just uplifting.
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  SPEAKER_03: presence in our neighborhood.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we all remember her fondly after she moved away.
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  And then I happened to see on LinkedIn that she was raising
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  funds for this documentary.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was like,
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  SPEAKER_03: well,
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't have a billion dollar fund to contribute,
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  but I do have an amazing community of uplifters who I think
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  would be gaga to hear
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  SPEAKER_03: about this film and uplift you and Edwina and the work that you're doing.
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  and even more so to uplift Miss T,
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  who is an uplifter being uplifted by uplifters.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's super meta.
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  SPEAKER_03: Anyway,
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  so let's just start with the story of Miss T so that everyone
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  out there listening
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  can just fall in love with her and be enchanted by her in the
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  way that I now am
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  SPEAKER_03: after watching your teaser,
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  SPEAKER_03: which we'll share in the show notes,
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  SPEAKER_03: but even more so after hearing you describe her and the impact she's had.
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  SPEAKER_01: Both Corinne and I,
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  our kids go to local schools where Miss T is the crossing guard
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  on the corner of
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  SPEAKER_01: Monroe and Tompkins.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's just celebrated her 22nd year.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is in Brooklyn in Bed-Stuy, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  So on the same corner,
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  extremely dependable,
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  whatever the weather,
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  there she is.
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  SPEAKER_01: My daughter's school was a bit further away,
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  but we would always make sure we went through her crossing on
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  the way to our school
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  SPEAKER_01: because there was a hug in it.
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  SPEAKER_01: She knew our names.
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  SPEAKER_01: She would encourage us to dance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Someone to look forward to on the way to begin your day.
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  And as you saw the end of their school day,
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  we would get to see her again.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was working on a project because I do documentary, nonfiction.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what I do, freelance.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was working on a project not in Brooklyn.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was actually in Idaho.
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  And I was trying to get a fundraising together for that and
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  made a teaser.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it was about a very heavy, personal heavy subject matter.
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  SPEAKER_01: And every time I would come back, I would just feel so heavy.
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  And every time I would cross the street with my kids and Miss T
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  would greet us,
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  SPEAKER_01: this heaviness would just kind of disappear.
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  And she kind of takes you to the other side,
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  literally,
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  and you feel different.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I started thinking,
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  SPEAKER_01: what if I just,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  shift focus because this other project is going to be just
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  devastatingly difficult
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  SPEAKER_01: on so many levels.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And maybe come back to that one day when I'm in a different
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  mind space and the time is right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I told Miss T, I think you should be in a documentary.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she said, well, I think so too.
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  And I said,
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  well,
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  maybe look at my work because I have a film that's very easy to
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  find.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's on Netflix and it's called Sisters on Track.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's about these three sisters that live around the corner.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I filmed them for almost six years.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's a coming-of-age story that is in and of itself beautiful.
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  But then when Miss T had seen my film,
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  she said,
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  yeah,
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  I think we should do this.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she was on board, which is always great.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the way to start, to have the main character want it.
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  SPEAKER_01: She entirely trusts us.
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  SPEAKER_01: She will...
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  SPEAKER_01: So within this film, you know, she takes us to her home.
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  SPEAKER_01: She takes off, she shows us her tattoo.
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  SPEAKER_01: She tells us about her family and her origin story.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's been incredibly generous.
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  And I think she also coached everyone else coming across the
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  street to be in this film.
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  SPEAKER_01: If they, you know, just come on, come on.
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  SPEAKER_01: You want to be in my documentary?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So everyone sort of woke up.
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  SPEAKER_01: They love her.
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  There's a whole community of people who we've all got to know
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  each other by just
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  SPEAKER_01: uniting with her.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she will introduce us to each other too and our relevant kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: She knows everyone by name.
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  SPEAKER_01: She gives our kids birthday cards.
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  SPEAKER_01: She knows when their birthday is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Puts in cash.
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  SPEAKER_01: She is for real.
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  SPEAKER_01: She hosts dinner parties for Father's Day, for Thanksgiving.
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  SPEAKER_01: All her crossing guard friends, all her... She calls them my parents.
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  SPEAKER_01: These are the parents that cross the street.
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  SPEAKER_01: My children, my parents.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then she throws these parties twice a year that are epic.
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  And if you get invited,
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  then that means...
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  You can be happy for half a year after that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the next party starts again.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she hosts them in her house.
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  SPEAKER_01: She cooks.
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  SPEAKER_01: She gets a DJ and she puts on a major spread.
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  And she'll tell you,
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  you know,
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  we've got jerk chicken,
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  rice and beans and cupcakes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there's always a theme and a colorway.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a good time.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's various ages.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's from a different place,
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  whether they're parents or they live up the road or whether
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  they cross them when
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  SPEAKER_01: they were kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's incredible who's there.
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  SPEAKER_01: The next party, she's turning 59.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's going to have a sneaker ball.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean... Sneaker ball of cake is a sneaker.
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  SPEAKER_01: And everyone's wearing sneakers and prom dresses.
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  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
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  This is a woman who knows how to celebrate and who knows how to
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  create connection.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's so much about Miss T that I want to aspire to in my own life.
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  SPEAKER_03: And,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think in this time where many of us feel isolated and disconnected,
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  SPEAKER_03: and there's so much research that we read
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's so true.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like the ties thing with the sneaker.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
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  Talking about loose ties,
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  my marriage came apart during this time and I had squatted.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I had all these really heavy problems,
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  but I have to be all skippity or like get my child's school and
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  still walk the dog
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  SPEAKER_01: and it was all raining down.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think both of us were experiencing a form of grief and heaviness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we came into shooting whenever we were on set,
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  SPEAKER_01: which was outside on the street with parents and kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Miss T being such a delight and so generous.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she was always looking out for us during that time too.
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  SPEAKER_01: She sends phone messages, emojis every day.
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  SPEAKER_03: Amazing.
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  You talk about trust and hearing the fact that she trusted you
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  with her story,
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  but it doesn't sound like this is a person who withholds trust
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  in general.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yet you shared in your story that like,
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  SPEAKER_03: she has not had an easy life,
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  SPEAKER_03: but she has chosen this optimism.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think what she trusts,
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel very akin to her in that she's very open,
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  SPEAKER_01: but if you do wrong by her,
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  SPEAKER_01: she'll just ignore or shut it down.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it won't build.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's not an angry person, but she'll just close that down.
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  SPEAKER_01: She referred to a couple of people there that did her wrong,
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  SPEAKER_01: and she wishes them well in a way,
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  SPEAKER_03: but just not an intimacy anymore.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, there's a real life lesson in there, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_03: Because what she's doing,
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  SPEAKER_03: and we hear this in the way she throws these parties,
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  SPEAKER_03: the way she remembers the birthdays,
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  SPEAKER_03: the way she makes connection with people.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's cultivating the relationships that are meaningful and good for her.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then to say, yeah, she shuts down the ones that aren't.
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  SPEAKER_03: And like, what would shift for all of us?
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  If we put all of our energy into what was helpful and useful to
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  us and just said,
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  SPEAKER_03: thanks,
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  SPEAKER_03: but no thanks to what drags us down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: She said when we filmed during the election and people were really,
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  SPEAKER_01: understandably,
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  SPEAKER_01: sort of mournful or terrified about what was to come.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the way she talked about it,
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  SPEAKER_01: because we didn't know how far into it,
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  SPEAKER_01: we didn't know about touching on
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  SPEAKER_01: but there's an undercurrent and a loving current coursing through her,
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  SPEAKER_01: which was,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: if someone's going to run a red light,
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  SPEAKER_01: she would say,
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  SPEAKER_01: it just needs a hug.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she felt like that during any kind of strive,
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  SPEAKER_01: she has compassion for the person who is doing the harmful thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a small film about big things.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's one person.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's also,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's not a long film,
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  but it's a full year of the school year is the parameters in
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  which we shot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the visuals are, we use different cameras.
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  So we've been working with my small camera with these beautiful
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  Leica lenses that I
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  SPEAKER_01: got from my great uncle and they're for photography,
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  SPEAKER_01: but I am constantly trying to focus.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's moving.
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  it's really fun to do and quite hard so there's like there's
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  that aspect but then
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  we have the drone we have a drone a friend of ours from the
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  school as well he he's
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  been using drone shots from above but very very stylistically
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  poetically done it's
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  it's amazing and we actually I was out there this morning with
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  him to get the last
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  season of snow so this morning we saw the sunrise and then we
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  saw miss t with her
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  highlighter hat going through this tiny path that was created
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  for her to get to her
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  job to the corner and yeah we have all these amazing different
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  like feelings and
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah and it just feels like we're yeah we're we're making this
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  kind of love story,
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  I guess,
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  in a way,
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  about very matter-of-fact moments.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she's outside all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: So whatever the weather, so you have rain, hail, snow, sunshine.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so you have all of that within the film.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you also...
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  SPEAKER_01: I just,
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  SPEAKER_01: yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: when it's less romantic,
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  SPEAKER_01: when it's not as pretty,
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  SPEAKER_01: when it's slush and traffic and sirens,
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  SPEAKER_01: she's still,
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  SPEAKER_01: her level of concentration,
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  SPEAKER_01: yes,
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  SPEAKER_01: she's there for a hug,
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  SPEAKER_01: but she's watching all four corners.
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  And she'll yell out or blow her whistle to catch anyone who's
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  stepping into danger.
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  It's really easy to fall into the trap of thinking,
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  I don't have enough money.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't have enough influence.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't have enough friends.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't have enough education.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't have enough qualifications.
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  SPEAKER_03: This horrible hard thing has happened to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: This limitation exists for me.
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  SPEAKER_03: And to feel really powerless.
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  SPEAKER_03: And to feel like, well, who am I?
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't do anything.
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  SPEAKER_03: And this is a woman,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think,
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  SPEAKER_03: who shows us at every turn that,
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  SPEAKER_03: oh,
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  SPEAKER_03: no,
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  SPEAKER_03: no,
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  SPEAKER_03: no,
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  SPEAKER_03: you just need yourself.
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  And the moment you're in to be present and connect in order to
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  have tremendous
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  SPEAKER_03: impact for generations.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I'll direct this question to you,
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  SPEAKER_03: Edwina,
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  because you shared so honestly and generously about the place
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  you were in as you
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  SPEAKER_03: began this project,
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  SPEAKER_03: that you were going through a divorce,
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  SPEAKER_03: which is never fun.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think this was a particularly challenging divorce.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you said you had squatters.
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  SPEAKER_03: So for those who aren't in New York,
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  SPEAKER_03: who don't hear about squatters all the time,
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  SPEAKER_03: people living in your space and
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  without permission,
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  without paying rent,
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  really,
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  really,
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  really disruptive and hard.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you were in this place that might have felt incredibly powerless.
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  And so I'm curious what impact your time with Miss T had on
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  your perception and the
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  SPEAKER_03: way you navigated these tough times.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the marriage development,
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  SPEAKER_01: was in a sort of, it was a confounding state when we started to shoot.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then penny dropped very early on.
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  So I was out there and holding onto my tears and carrying bags
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  forwards and back
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  SPEAKER_01: across the street.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I wasn't holding the camera.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was watching and talking to people.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was, I think my work, whatever I'm doing, I'm leaning into...
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  SPEAKER_01: The distraction and beauty, it was a very safe place.
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  SPEAKER_01: My home was not a safe place.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was hard.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sleeping in my home,
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  SPEAKER_01: I had two sets of people who I was wary of or nervous about,
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  SPEAKER_01: and I had to perform within my own house,
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  SPEAKER_01: whereas I could be very real outside of my house.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I was in protection mode with my daughter.
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  SPEAKER_01: So anytime I could be out of my house,
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  I didn't mind if people complained that particular winter that
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  it was freezing
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  SPEAKER_01: cold.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I love it.
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  Because it was like a cold water plunge that I could go outside
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  and go,
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  oh.
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  SPEAKER_01: But inside, I was very mute.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was very careful and sort of ducking and weaving.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that was for many months.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then eventually with the squatters,
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  my husband ended up leaving and then the squatters stayed for
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  over a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that was difficult because they were like,
• 17:06
  fireworks going off at any time from below and having that kind
• 17:11
  of pressure was
• 17:12
  very difficult but I had these beautiful places to go the park
• 17:17
  and the corner so it
• 17:18
  was a very like I would take my dog out and I have this amazing
• 17:23
  collaborator and
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: whose work I adore and you know we met in the dog park
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: When I grew up,
• 17:31
  my parents lived in Australia for a while and my mother had
• 17:35
  just passed away a
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: couple months and I heard Australian accents.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember,
• 17:40
  just remember from my childhood that that was the best memories
• 17:44
  of my parents
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: together was in Australia.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: They had so much fun.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: It was very lighthearted and we were all young and
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think they were just in love and very, very happy there.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so were we.
• 17:57
  So my mom especially had a ton of great,
• 18:00
  great friends that she would visit.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, oh, how funny.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe in my mind,
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: I thought,
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: oh,
• 18:05
  maybe she knows where I grew up or maybe we grew up in the same
• 18:09
  area or something.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: And then
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: I asked Edwina, where are you from?
• 18:13
  And I found out that it's like,
• 18:15
  you know,
• 18:15
  it's like Bed-Stuy,
• 18:16
  Clinton Hill,
• 18:18
  that close.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Very close.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that close together.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so we never met there.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: And there's a little age gap that takes us not to be in the same school,
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: but it was such a funny coincidence.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know where my mom went to play tennis.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: And,
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: we were trying to figure out if...
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: And your dad went to school,
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: the elementary school that I went to.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Just funny and... So bizarre.
• 18:42
  Feels like my mom...
• 18:43
  And I talked to my mom because my mom's still around at 88.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I got to talk to her about it.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then we both had the opportunity to look at each other's work.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: We both squirreled away and, you know, and had this lovely experience.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then we ended up working on this Sesame Street piece together.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, coming from Australia, anything like that, that's a big time.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't care about anything else.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Sesame Street is where I wanted to live.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: And now I do.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:13
  So it's not without its,
• 19:15
  you know,
• 19:15
  fractious moments and your grouchy gremlins.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: But there is,
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 19:22
  so much beauty out of the layers and the diversity that felt
• 19:29
  right in this
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: neighborhood,
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: in this film.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then Corinne's work, yeah, it's very polished, his Sesame Street.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like some mutual admiration there.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: Corinne, I imagine you have collaborated a lot in your career.
• 19:47
  What is it like to collaborate with a friend and neighbor on
• 19:51
  something so intimate?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: It feels so just at ease all the time.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's very flowy.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think we share the same sense of humor, which is always nice.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's a great starting point, right?
• 20:03
  And we would like sit on the corner sometimes before we started
• 20:06
  filming and these
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: dogs would walk by and then we'd see these amazing shoes.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like that would be our kind of...
• 20:14
  And then we go up a bit and see,
• 20:15
  you know,
• 20:16
  it became like this kind of catwalk of people.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: There's one woman who walks with her parrots.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: You said parrots, like birds, not parrots.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: But the parrot sits,
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 20:26
  sits right here and knows Miss T's name and speaks to Miss T
• 20:30
  and has like real
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: conversations,
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: as real as a parrot can have a conversation.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, like seeing this humor.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I just really like Edwina's work.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: She does these beautiful, beautiful drawings as an artist.
• 20:45
  But then these animations that she makes the drawings come to
• 20:49
  life with the help of
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: an animator,
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: a good friend of Edwina.
• 20:52
  And I just thought,
• 20:54
  oh,
• 20:54
  how amazing if you could do something that has multimedia
• 20:58
  aspects.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Get our budget together and we can find and lift it up even further.
• 21:05
  But because she tells all these stories from her youth and we
• 21:09
  think that that might
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: be the place to bring in.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's what we don't have.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because she grew up in the foster care system for many years,
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: there's a lot that she does not have a record of.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of missing parts to her early life.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's where the gravitas comes in the film, the layers.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because I work in collage,
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: as well as painting and drawing,
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: I can use materials that I was hit eBay and
• 21:41
  looked at old maps and old subway charts and coordinates and
• 21:46
  tokens and all that sort of stuff.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I have the materials that are from the place and the time.
• 21:53
  And so it makes it for me more remarkable to think about Miss T
• 21:59
  as a child
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: traveling by herself on the subway in the mid-70s.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: If you've watched any of the 70s films, except New York.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's a different place.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Does not.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: give you any comfort, the idea that it's often a very dramatic location.
• 22:22
  Trying to find the truth and trying to get people who also,
• 22:27
  who don't live in New York.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Neither of us are from here.
• 22:31
  So I think that's why both of us were nervous that we're
• 22:35
  telling a story that
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: about a woman of color and we're both white, also we're not from here.
• 22:42
  Maybe it's why we delight in the pedestrian because it is so
• 22:47
  different from our
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: pedestrian experience and the wonder is not lost on us.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: We don't take it for granted because I've been here for long enough,
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: but I don't let it pass me by.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: I imagine that the entire process of this has been one of,
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_03: you described the shoes and the parrot and
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: an act of really seeing your neighbors.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I used to play a game with my daughters called Find the Beautiful.
• 23:20
  And what we would do is we would look for something to admire
• 23:25
  in every person we'd see.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_03: And oftentimes it would be as simple as like,
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: oh,
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: look,
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: they decided to match their shirt and pants.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, because like that is a real choice.
• 23:37
  Oh,
• 23:37
  look,
• 23:38
  somebody is holding their hand,
• 23:40
  which means somebody feels affection toward them.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: And so we would just like really look at every person.
• 23:46
  And it was like in this time when we do feel so lonely and
• 23:51
  disconnected and
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_03: For so much of our lives,
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: just by the design of our day to day,
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_03: there was this real sense of like,
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_03: oh my goodness,
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: we're just surrounded by so much humanity.
• 24:05
  And then in a world where all the algorithms are designed to
• 24:11
  create tension and
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_03: division,
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_03: we just felt instantly more connected.
• 24:17
  And so I feel that happening for both of you,
• 24:20
  both through your collaboration,
• 24:21
  but also
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_03: through this love affair with this one person in your neighborhood,
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: but also your entire neighborhood at the same time.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's also about paying attention.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you doing that is live.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's rooting you in the spot where you are at the time.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so all of us trying to escape a lot of the time,
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: escape,
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: learn more,
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: find out more and be more.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: And you can do that without your implement of your phone.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can do that by being in this space and engaging.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Or not engaging, just soaking it all up.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's something we can all do too,
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: which is such a good reminder that it doesn't really take anything.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_03: We had a woman on recently who has a project called Compliment Squad.
• 25:17
  And it was a device by which she created an opportunity to
• 25:23
  connect with her neighbors.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: Another woman, Gina Hameday, also from Brooklyn, was on the show today.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: years ago, who wrote the book, I Want to Thank You.
• 25:33
  And her project was about writing thank you notes to people who
• 25:39
  in some way did
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: something she was grateful for.
• 25:41
  And many of them would be the guy at the deli or the crossing
• 25:45
  guard,
• 25:45
  right?
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: And so looking for those moments of gratitude.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: So to me,
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: like when I bring all of these together,
• 25:50
  I think it is this reminder for all of us that if we are
• 25:53
  feeling disconnected or
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_03: lonely or
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_03: like we are missing some meaning and some purpose in our lives,
• 26:01
  it can really be as simple as being present with or even
• 26:07
  designing some way in
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_03: which we set ourselves up to reconnect with the humans in our lives.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: So you two have made this beautiful thing with so much love
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: And you've both invested time, money, energy, creativity, trust.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: So much of yourselves has been invested in this.
• 26:33
  And now you are at the point where you are telling others about
• 26:37
  it and you're
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: looking for support to bring it and the impact of Miss T to more people.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: So let's talk a little about that journey and what's been hard about it,
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: what's worked,
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_03: what hasn't,
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: and what's next.
• 26:52
  When we were out on the corner,
• 26:54
  it was this,
• 26:55
  first of all,
• 26:55
  Miss T is the magnet,
• 26:57
  right?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like she's the glue, she's the magnet, she grounds you.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: But the two of us were having so much fun with her.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think that was another kind of magnetic force that was going on.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a coffee shop on one corner,
• 27:10
  then there's a laundromat and we would position ourselves on
• 27:14
  the corner filming her
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: and everything that was going on.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: But then
• 27:18
  sometimes just people would walk up to us and say can we help
• 27:23
  that's when we
• 27:23
  started to think oh wow this is this can be a real real
• 27:27
  community project and so we
• 27:28
  got some of the parents at the school where my kids go to help
• 27:32
  us write brands to
• 27:34
  help us with all the productional elements of getting release
• 27:37
  forms of the children
• 27:38
  and the parents to kind of set all of that in motion too but
• 27:43
  also remember the
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: photographer that
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: said they're just so inspired by what we were doing.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: So it had this like,
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: it had like,
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 27:51
  people would go off and I think they would think about the
• 27:54
  project for their own
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: work as well.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: One of your friends came to shoot it.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: He did beautiful work.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: So people opened up and said, I'm a DP.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but like really slick, commercial, gorgeous.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful shots.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: So we have those in there too.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: You'll see.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's really, really great.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: Then another parent said, oh, I can help you with sound.
• 28:17
  So he came to help with...
• 28:19
  So it was just like this snowball effect of a feel-good
• 28:23
  project.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it is.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: From beginning to end.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: And once we found the courage to get the teaser...
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: and to... Yeah, it took us a bit.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, to tell... We were a bit nervous about... We misquoted the amount.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: We just weren't really sure until fairly recently.
• 28:44
  A producer made us aware of the amount of money that it would
• 28:49
  take for potential
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: licensing,
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: music composition,
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: just...
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: Color correction.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Color correction.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just finishing it.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: Legal stuff, like finishing past...
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: Quite a lot.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Quite a lot.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: But it's not a feature film.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's up to 20 minutes.
• 29:08
  We want to show it locally in the local park and everything,
• 29:12
  but I think it will have resonance.
• 29:15
  It is a film that people are excited and thirsty to see because
• 29:22
  they're sort of
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: mired in the tragic present tense of film.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: the state of things.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: So it is a really beautiful action-based local story.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: Deeply local.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: Hyper local.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Which I think everyone is now thinking about as a way to move forward.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: To be able to do anything.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like what's going on in
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: Minneapolis,
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: where neighbors are buying groceries for others and,
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 29:52
  bringing kids to school and all the things that you need to
• 29:55
  hyper-locally take care
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: of in order for larger things to make sense to.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:01
  So it just feels like the time is right to find the right
• 30:06
  distribution for this.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: And we hope it's going to go to all these beautiful film festivals.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: We've had some of our films be in really great ones.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: One in Edinburgh.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: Can...
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: Cannes.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Cannes.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: Telluride.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Telluride.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: DocMYC.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Sundown.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: So let's hope for Misty to travel far and wide.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Australia.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Australia.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: We want to take it home.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: Take it to the Netherlands.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think take it home.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: She deserves it.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 30:36
  So yeah,
• 30:37
  we need funding for animation to happen,
• 30:40
  color correction,
• 30:41
  the music,
• 30:42
  so many things.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: We are not very good at that.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: we're good at
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: We're good at doing all the rest of the lovely, fun stuff.
• 30:53
  And then we have met some people recently who are interested in
• 30:58
  helping us out,
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: like you,
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: which is fantastic.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: But we do need it to do the best, polished job.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: And assistants,
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: any professionals who are willing to possibly lend their time,
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: that would be amazing too.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: In kind.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, in kind is pretty much how we've
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: Rolled.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: Rolled.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_03: so most of the folks listening here not only are uplifters,
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_03: but are people who want to do big,
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: brave things,
• 31:31
  maybe don't always know what they want to do or are struggling
• 31:35
  to get traction and
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: make progress with the big,
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_03: brave things they're doing.
• 31:39
  And so I want to try to synthesize some of the lessons that I
• 31:43
  take from your last answer.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_03: And the first,
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think,
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: is really the most fundamental,
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: which is this idea of starting hyperlocal.
• 31:50
  The newly appointed deputy mayor of health and human services
• 31:56
  was on this show years ago.
• 31:57
  And she shared with me something that fundamentally reshaped
• 32:02
  how I think about
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: change making,
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_03: which is start on your own block.
• 32:07
  And so this idea of starting hyperlocal with what really
• 32:11
  directly impacts you and
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: your closest community,
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_03: even if it's affecting people globally,
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_03: it is close in.
• 32:17
  And so I think there is that core lesson and then allowing the
• 32:22
  other people who are
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: impacted by this lesson to become,
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: or impacted by this need to become collaborators.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's lonely work doing big, brave things a lot of the time.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: Unless...
• 32:34
  We do as the two of you have done and do it visibly and share
• 32:37
  openly about the
• 32:38
  vision and the idea and the opportunity and use it as a point
• 32:43
  to connect with other
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: people who care about the same things that you do.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_03: And then third is the willingness to accept help, right?
• 32:51
  Because I think one of the risks that a lot of creators stumble
• 32:57
  on is caring so
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: much makes us sort of overprotective of what we're creating.
• 33:03
  And so we don't allow help to buoy us and to expand the sense
• 33:08
  of possibility.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: And so there is,
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_03: I hear in your answer,
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: just this real freedom and openness to say,
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: yeah,
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_03: help us.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: And it's something I hear again and again.
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  And the nonprofit that has helped tens or hundreds of thousands
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  of people or the
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  piece of art that has impacted people globally is a willingness
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  to receive the
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  SPEAKER_03: support.
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  SPEAKER_03: And oftentimes to do it in kind and to say,
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  SPEAKER_03: I ask every guest at the end of each episode,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I'll ask you in just a moment to say,
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  SPEAKER_03: okay,
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  SPEAKER_03: as uplifters,
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  SPEAKER_03: we love to uplift other people.
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  SPEAKER_03: So how can we uplift you?
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  And the answer I get most often from these really successful
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  grassroots folks is,
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  SPEAKER_03: if you have a skill and this matters to you,
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  SPEAKER_03: please contribute your skill.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so we don't all have to be the initiator.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Every initiator needs supporters and every supporter needs initiators.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then the final piece of this,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think,
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  is just asking questions and inviting other people in to expand
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  the vision.
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  SPEAKER_03: So now, how can we uplift you?
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  How can we uplift the vision and possibility of Miss T and her
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  story and your work
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  SPEAKER_03: in collaboration?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think any support right now that if people are listening or watching,
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  SPEAKER_01: if there's a spark where they think,
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  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  SPEAKER_01: I would really,
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  SPEAKER_01: there's something I want to talk to these listeners.
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  SPEAKER_01: you know, these creators about.
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  We're very open to any kind of support because there's still
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  such a long way to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's also people might think,
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  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually looking for an artist for a project that I'm working on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or I have a story that is within the...
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  SPEAKER_01: within the parameters of I got you.
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  Like I know someone else is because people have asked us,
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  what are we doing next?
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  We do have to do this and polish it up so that it is something
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  that we would ask is
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  SPEAKER_01: skills in those areas that we'd mentioned in filmmaking.
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  SPEAKER_01: But also we don't need a lot of money from a few people.
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  SPEAKER_01: We need a little bit of money from a lot of people.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think that would be great if you...
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  contributed the expensive coffee amount to our film that would
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  kick us along that
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  SPEAKER_01: little bit further.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there's a GoFundMe that we'll share.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a GoFundMe.
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  I would say have a look at the opening sequence and pass it
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  around because it is
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  SPEAKER_01: wherever you live.
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  SPEAKER_01: relatable, and joyous.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  we get to the weight of Miss T's story when we show you the
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  rest of the film,
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  but hopefully there's enough in there to make you want to come
• 36:05
  along on that ride.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just had an idea too.
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  SPEAKER_03: In our local town art council,
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  SPEAKER_03: you could come and talk about the making of the film,
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  SPEAKER_03: share the teaser,
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  SPEAKER_03: and maybe get some donations.
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  And so I share that because I think like there are so many
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  avenues and when we all
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  SPEAKER_03: think together about ways to open those doors,
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  SPEAKER_03: so many more doors open.
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  SPEAKER_03: And in general, like we want to have a positive impact with our lives.
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  And so whether it's through skills or time or simply sharing
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  this teaser and
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  SPEAKER_03: helping make other people aware of it and down the road,
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  Screening it in our local communities and becoming champions
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  and a part of this
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  SPEAKER_03: team with you would be such a joy for so many of us.
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  SPEAKER_03: So every guest on The Uplifters nominates another guest.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I know it's asking a lot of you two people who know so many amazing,
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  SPEAKER_03: inspiring folks,
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  SPEAKER_03: who would you like to nominate,
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  SPEAKER_03: Edwina and Karim?
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  SPEAKER_01: We've got a person in mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her name is Salome Ralima, and she's also a filmmaker and a writer.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we met her on the corner,
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  and we danced with her at one of Misty's parties and started a
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  friendship,
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  SPEAKER_01: more work friendships.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we show her our cuts, and she replies.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's very engaged and engaging.
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  SPEAKER_01: She really is...
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  SPEAKER_01: There's something incredibly warm and wise about her.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she's always working on something fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's working on a film about Belle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
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  And that was actually because that was the book I was reading
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  when I thought,
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  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  SPEAKER_01: I have to do this film.
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  And then there she walked in the frame and started asking where
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  she could buy
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  SPEAKER_01: fluorescent paints.
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  SPEAKER_01: the color of Miss T,
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  SPEAKER_01: so that when she opens the closet,
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  SPEAKER_01: she thinks about Miss T.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I thought...
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  SPEAKER_01: A fluorescent yellow jacket.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So then we thought, oh, who's this woman?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then she told us about,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: that she's working to try to get this Bell Hooks film made.
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  SPEAKER_01: She should be your next guest.
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't wait to talk to her.
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  SPEAKER_03: She sounds amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: There are so many uplifters all around us.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_03: But if you listen to the news or look at social media,
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  you would get the sense that like the world is full of evil and
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  hatred and
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  SPEAKER_03: meanness.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there is plenty of that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there's so much beauty,
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  SPEAKER_03: so much compassion,
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  SPEAKER_03: so many inspiring folks like the two of you,
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  SPEAKER_03: like Miss T,
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  SPEAKER_03: like Salome.
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  SPEAKER_03: And just like Miss T,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I think she's such a perfect evidence of this,
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  the research shows that when we spend our time with people who
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  inspire us,
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  SPEAKER_03: who live in the way that we want to live,
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  We are more likely to both be happy,
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  but also to emulate those behaviors.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it provokes resilience.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like, I can do this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Facing difficult things is really so much easier if you have these wise,
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  SPEAKER_01: beautiful people who used to be strangers.
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  Just that little bit of the offerings and the generosity are
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  noted and they build friendships.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, thank you both so much for your time.
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't wait for this film to come out.
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't wait to share it and to keep cheering you on along the way.
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  And I can't wait to see you at Uplifters Live and for you to
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  meet all sorts of
• 39:51
  other amazing folks who I think will really be energized by the
• 39:56
  story as well.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been a pleasure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: one of these beautiful stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: Big love.
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  SPEAKER_00: Painted water, sunshine, with rosemary and thyme.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dwelling, not perplexing, though you find it vexing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Toss a star and hover.
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  SPEAKER_00: Be your own best lover.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relish in a new prime.
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  SPEAKER_00: Plant a tree in springtime.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dance with idle hindsight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bring the sun to twilight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lift you up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lift you up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lift you up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_03: That little thing you did with your voice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_03: In the pre-chorus.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was like.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mommy, stop crying.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're disturbing the peace.