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Dr. Scott Jensen: The MASSIVE Minnesota Fraud Scandal — And Why Walz Had to Know · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is in the spotlight, and it's not really for
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Speaker 1: a good reason. But I think there is a silver
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Speaker 1: lining here. And I tell you what I mean after
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Speaker 1: I introduce my next guest, doctor Scott Jensen. He is,
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Speaker 1: of course a physician, he's also a government a candidate
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Speaker 1: for governor. I should say, got a book, got called
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Speaker 1: We've Been Played, Exposing to try out of Tyranny. Scott,
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Speaker 1: how are you going to see again?
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Speaker 2: Douc Joe.
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Speaker 3: It's good to be on and I'm doing well, but
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Speaker 3: obviously Minnesota is not. And the book I wrote three
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Speaker 3: years ago, We've Been Played, talks about the tryad of tyranny,
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Speaker 3: what happens when government colludes. And I think we're seeing
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Speaker 3: this with Tim Walls in Minnesota and people are flabbergasts
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Speaker 3: that they're saying, how in the devil could this happen?
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Speaker 3: And I think when you get a person like Tim
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Speaker 3: Walls in a position where he can absolutely run roughshod
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Speaker 3: over all three legislative branches, all three, if you will,
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Speaker 3: political branches, the executive office, the legislative branch, as well
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Speaker 3: as even his powerful impact.
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Speaker 2: On thejudicial branch.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he has friends in the judicial sector of government.
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Speaker 3: That have donated to his campaigns. So Tim Walls has
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Speaker 3: a lot of consolidated power and he uses that. And
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Speaker 3: that's why I've said so clearly I think Tim Walls
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Speaker 3: is involved in a major cover up.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't disagree with you, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: what's coming out right now is absolutely flabbergasting is a
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Speaker 1: good word. But Doc, I do think there's a silver lining.
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Speaker 1: I'll explain that in a minute. Let's get down to
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Speaker 1: the nitty gritty. Why are there so many Somalians in Minneapolis,
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Speaker 1: Saint Paul, Minnesota when the weather is nowhere near what
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Speaker 1: it's like in the eastern coast of Africa. Why were
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Speaker 1: they brought there? Was this Obama? Was there some other
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Speaker 1: reason that Minnesota is attractive. I don't think they decided
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Speaker 1: in Somalia, Let's go to Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Minnesota. Somebody
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Speaker 1: brought them there.
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Speaker 3: Now, you're absolutely right, and the progression actually started in
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Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties, and it's really it's not as complicated
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Speaker 3: as people might think. Frankly, people came in Minnesota. We've
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Speaker 3: got several faith based organizations that have been quite aggressive
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Speaker 3: about trying to make certain refugees have a place to come,
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Speaker 3: and so Somalians came to Minnesota, and I think there
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Speaker 3: were a lot of programs available to help ease their assimilation.
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Speaker 3: On top of that, what happens is after the first
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Speaker 3: wave of immigrants come, frequently, the next wave wants to
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Speaker 3: go to an area where perhaps some people who know
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Speaker 3: them best, speak their language have already gone, and so
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Speaker 3: to speak, trail blazed some pathways. And so we started
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Speaker 3: to see Minnesota become a real, if you will, melting
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Speaker 3: pot for East African immigrants. And we saw it from Somalia, Somaliland, Ethiopia,
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Speaker 3: and it just grew and grew, so that I do
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Speaker 3: believe that Minnesota is probably the largest Somali community in
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Speaker 3: the nation.
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Speaker 1: Had well, it is by a lot. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think it's like eightfold more than anybody else. So great answer,
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Speaker 1: But you and I both know that in Somalia it's
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Speaker 1: being run by a bunch of ten terrorists. It's not
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Speaker 1: a country like ours, It's not anything like Minnesota. Are
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Speaker 1: the people, generally speaking, because you probably have them in
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Speaker 1: your practice, are they trying to acclimate because it seems
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Speaker 1: as though a lot of them, from elon Omar on
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Speaker 1: down have no problem with fraud and scamming and lying
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Speaker 1: and marrying your brother and you know, stealing billions of
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Speaker 1: dollars in aid. Are the general population of Somalians like
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Speaker 1: they were in Somalia or are they trying to become
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Speaker 1: Minnesotans because the ones that we're hearing about aren't doing
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Speaker 1: good things.
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Speaker 3: I think it's a mix, to be sure, But I
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Speaker 3: think that the people that are probably least inclined to
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Speaker 3: assimilate are the people that have found their way into
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Speaker 3: some sort of a power circle. The every day Somalian
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Speaker 3: who's trying to eke out a living, raise their children,
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Speaker 3: put a roof over their head, and food in their
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Speaker 3: tummies and take care of their kids. These people are
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Speaker 3: desperately working to assimilate. I've been having lunch with one
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Speaker 3: fellow for the last seven years, and he started out
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Speaker 3: with his own company doing a lawn service. Then from
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Speaker 3: the lawn service, he added landscaping. Then he hired a
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Speaker 3: few employees. The Allians definitely want to be independent business people,
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Speaker 3: and they want to follow the pathway of other immigrant groups,
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Speaker 3: other ethnic groups. I was blessed to have the opportunity
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Speaker 3: to work with so many Southeastern Asian folks who came
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Speaker 3: over in the late seventies, in the eighties after the
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Speaker 3: Vietnam War, people from Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and these
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Speaker 3: people benefited from our programs are if you will, our
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Speaker 3: support programs, and they got off of them as soon
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Speaker 3: as they could. I think at some level, Joel, the
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Speaker 3: thing that we haven't talked about is in Minnesota, we
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Speaker 3: have a multitude a multitude of entitlement programs, support programs,
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Speaker 3: and we're not asking ourselves are they working? Are they
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Speaker 3: accomplishing their mission? If we have all these pro in
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Speaker 3: place and we're spending more money than almost any other state,
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Speaker 3: at some level we have to say are we helping
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Speaker 3: these folks in their transition or are we hurting it.
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Speaker 3: There was a defense attorney who in the New York
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Speaker 3: Times article about ten days ago, he said, listen.
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Speaker 2: He said, some of these folks had the.
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Speaker 3: Best of intentions. They were going to try to follow
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Speaker 3: the law and do it normally, but it was just
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Speaker 3: so darned easy.
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Speaker 2: He said.
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Speaker 3: It was like the cookie jar was full and they
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Speaker 3: could steal money from it and nobody asked questions. They
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Speaker 3: just refilled the cookie jar. And I think that's where
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Speaker 3: Tim Walls and frankly, every Minnesota has a right to say,
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Speaker 3: what's going wrong in Minnesota? How do we spend so
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Speaker 3: much money and not expect these programs to perform? A
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Speaker 3: program starts out at two and a half million dollars
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Speaker 3: two and a half million, and it goes to over
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Speaker 3: one hundred million and three years and nobody's watching the store.
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Speaker 3: Another program starts out at five million, and in three
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Speaker 3: or four years it's four hundred million. Nobody would stop
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Speaker 3: at the holiday gas station to buy a diet coke
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Speaker 3: that they expected to pay three dollars and when the
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Speaker 3: clerk says that would be four hundred dollars there, yeah,
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Speaker 3: they'd faint. They'd say, you can have your damn diet coke?
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Speaker 3: And what the devil happened? That's what should have happened
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Speaker 3: in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: I'm with you a little. Let me tell people who
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Speaker 1: you are again. It's doctor Scott Jensen. He's a family physician,
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Speaker 1: Minnesota governor joh candidate. I hope that you become the governor.
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Speaker 1: He's got a book out call We've been played, exposing
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Speaker 1: the tryaud of tyranny. I want to get into that
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Speaker 1: full throat at in a moment. Fraudster's sold over over
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Speaker 1: a billion dollars from medicaid. We're hearing about two five
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Speaker 1: eight billion dollars missing from adult daycare, allegedly from feeding
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Speaker 1: everybody that never got fed doc? How does this get
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Speaker 1: so out of control? And is there any way that
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Speaker 1: Tim Walls could not have known this was happening.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way that Tim Walls could
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Speaker 3: not have known. I do think a critical question is
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Speaker 3: what did he know when? When did he know it?
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Speaker 3: And when did he actively start to cover it up?
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Speaker 3: When did he start to tell hundreds of his employees
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Speaker 3: to shut up. He's not interested in having their whistle
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Speaker 3: blow activities take place. He squashed them. How much data
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Speaker 3: has been deleted? Why has Tim Walls been unwilling to
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Speaker 3: release data when asked for it. It's pretty clear from
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Speaker 3: a timeline that in the early part of twenty twenty,
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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Department of Education realized there was a tremendous,
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Speaker 3: exorbitant increase and agencies that wanted to be involved in
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Speaker 3: collecting money to feed our kids.
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Speaker 2: That was when they first knew about it.
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Speaker 3: Now, did they do anything worthwhile or what a typical
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Speaker 3: business person would do in the first few months, No,
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Speaker 3: they didn't. They just dragged their feet. But it wasn't
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Speaker 3: until twenty twenty one that the FBI was brought in
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Speaker 3: in the spring, and then in twenty two. In twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty two, in September, when the FBI started to issues
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Speaker 3: and get some of its indictments, that was when you
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Speaker 3: saw Tim Walls all of a sudden try to grab
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Speaker 3: the stage and say, well, yep, here we are. We
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Speaker 3: know we investigated, we had a lot of the heavy lifting,
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Speaker 3: and we've turned it over to the FBI and to
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Speaker 3: the US attorney. That was absolutely a crock of crap.
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Speaker 3: They didn't do any of that. Tim Walls tried to
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Speaker 3: run a victory lab. And in twenty twenty two you
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Speaker 3: had Judge Gouthman say when Tim Wall said, well, you know,
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Speaker 3: we would have stopped the payment sooner, but the judge
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Speaker 3: told us we had to keep on making the payments.
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Speaker 3: The judge came out in an unprecedented action and said
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Speaker 3: Tim Walls is not telling the truth. So then Tim Walls, So,
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Speaker 3: then Tim Wall says, what you wish? The judge is
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Speaker 3: not going to stay quiet. I'm going to have to
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Speaker 3: find someone else. So then he blames the FBI, and
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Speaker 3: the FBI said, we never told you that you had
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Speaker 3: to keep making fraudulent payments. Tim Walls has been willing
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Speaker 3: to blame anybody, and this is his modus operandi. But
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Speaker 3: the bottom line is they did nothing. And I think
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Speaker 3: people have to ask the next question, why why would
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Speaker 3: the governor of Minnesota be so hell bent on letting
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Speaker 3: fraud just bubble up and continue? And I think the
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Speaker 3: answer lies in what would it have taken If Tim
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Speaker 3: Walls had done the normal thing, had demanded accountability, it
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Speaker 3: would have put his voting blocks at risk. He did
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Speaker 3: not want to jeopardize the fact that he's got these
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Speaker 3: minority voting blocks that the Democrats have been able to
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Speaker 3: count on for years, and that was more important to
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Speaker 3: Tim Walls than truth and justice. And on top of that,
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Speaker 3: I think Tim Walls is a very ambitious governor. He
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Speaker 3: wants to go up the ladder as much as he can.
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Speaker 3: So voting blocks matter, virtue signaling matter, and quite frankly,
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Speaker 3: if Tim Walls thought he could get away with it.
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Speaker 2: Easy, pasy.
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Speaker 1: Doug, let let me ask you this, because this is
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Speaker 1: all very well said. Now I'm following you, and I
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Speaker 1: trust that what you're saying is the case. First of all,
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Speaker 1: Tim Walls is not going to go anywhere. He was
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Speaker 1: such a fool as the vice presidential nominee. I think
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Speaker 1: he's done. The fact that he's running for reelection in
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Speaker 1: Minnesota really does give me pause because I fear he
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Speaker 1: might win. But you're talking about vote blocks, and I
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Speaker 1: take you at your word when you say most Simonians
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Speaker 1: want to be part of the American culture. They want
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Speaker 1: to be a melting pot, they want to acclimate. So
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Speaker 1: this is just a small percentage of people that are
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Speaker 1: doing all this fraud. There is no voting block out
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Speaker 1: there that wants to vote yes on fraud. So how
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Speaker 1: is it that he would alienate them? Would he look
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Speaker 1: like the hero or the star if he said I'm
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Speaker 1: going to stop the fraud. I can't believe this happened.
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Speaker 1: This is Minnesota's money, this is American taxpayer's money. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be your hero. Why wouldn't he do that?
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Speaker 1: Why would he be complicit or complacent?
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Speaker 3: It's a great question, and I think the point that
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Speaker 3: needs to be made is between even now, after ten, fifteen,
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five years, fifty to seventy five percent of
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Speaker 3: the Somali community in Minnesota is on one program or
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Speaker 3: another in regards to free stuff, whether it's healthcare, SNAP.
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Speaker 3: So even though we've had this population with us for
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Speaker 3: twenty to thirty years, you still have over half getting
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Speaker 3: free stuff. I was running in twenty twenty two. There
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Speaker 3: were rumors that I was never able to verify them.
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Speaker 3: But there were rumors that Democrats would go out and
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Speaker 3: frighten the Simali people, saying, if you don't vote for
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Speaker 3: Tim Walls, you might not be able to get this
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Speaker 3: apartment at a discounted rate, you might not be able
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Speaker 3: to get healthcare, you might not be able to get
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Speaker 3: food stamps or SNAP program. So I think that even
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Speaker 3: though there's a tremendous number ten twenty thousand Somalis that
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Speaker 3: want to be able to dream dreams and go out
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Speaker 3: and build businesses, there is absolutely somewhere between thirty and
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Speaker 3: sixty thousand Somalis on programs they do not want to
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Speaker 3: see go away. And Tim Walls hasn't connected the program
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Speaker 3: with the mission of the program, because that's pivotal. If
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Speaker 3: you're going to be spending taxpayer dollars, you've got to
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Speaker 3: make sure that when you pass a program, you know
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Speaker 3: what you wanted to do, and then you've got to
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Speaker 3: measure it to make sure that it's doing what you
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Speaker 3: said it would do.
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Speaker 2: That's not happening.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Scott Jensen. He is, of course, family physician. He's
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Speaker 1: also running for governor of the Great State of Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: His book is called We've Been Played, Exposing the Triad
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Speaker 1: of Tyranny. Okay, so what you just said, it's not
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Speaker 1: the first time I've heard that that people in the Somalia,
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Speaker 1: the Somalian community in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, have been strong
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Speaker 1: armed into voting one certain way or else you'll lose. This, This, this,
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Speaker 1: and this. That's electioneering. It's illegal, that's paid to play.
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Speaker 1: None of that's okay. Now, again, you're not the first
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Speaker 1: person who's told me this has happened. The FBI is aware,
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing of these allegations. The FEC I would think
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Speaker 1: would be aware, the Federal Elections Commission, Why is anybody
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Speaker 1: doing anything about it? Again, this isn't just a rumor anymore.
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Speaker 1: We've got anecdotal people like you, but others who are
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Speaker 1: actually from that community going this really happened. James O'Keefe
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Speaker 1: went in there and did an investigation about collecting ballots
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Speaker 1: and paying for ballots in that community in Minnesota. Doc,
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Speaker 1: why can't anybody stop this? It's illegal.
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Speaker 3: As soon as anybody brings it up there said to
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Speaker 3: saying they're spreading this in for they're conspiracists, racists, they're racists,
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Speaker 3: they're insensitive. I mean literally in Minnesota, word policing is
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Speaker 3: become an art form.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 3: And there's words virtually every week that are all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden taken off the list of what can be said.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've almost wanted to have people send me
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Speaker 3: a list every month of Okay, what other words I'm
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Speaker 3: not supposed to use this month. This is where Minnesota's at.
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Speaker 3: And the only thing that's really blown the lid off
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Speaker 3: of this, Joe is the national media. It hasn't been
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Speaker 3: local media. It's been the fact that national media has
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Speaker 3: been covering it. The White House has gotten involved. We've
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Speaker 3: got Scott Beiscent talking about it, We've got other people
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Speaker 3: talking about We've got the irs trying to follow some
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Speaker 3: of these trails of where do the dollars go? There's
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Speaker 3: a lot of Minnesotans who would not believe that more
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Speaker 3: than fifty thousand dollars were donated from these fraudsters to
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Speaker 3: elect officials in Minnesota. Now that that's come out, we've
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Speaker 3: got all these elected officials like Keith Ellison clamoring saying, oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: We paid it back.
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Speaker 3: We weren't willing to take those dollars. Well, the fact
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Speaker 3: of the matter was Keith Ellison had a group of
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Speaker 3: Somali people in his office. He let them know that
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Speaker 3: he was going to cover their back. It was after
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Speaker 3: that that he got thousands of dollars of donations. So
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Speaker 3: it has to beg the question, are there dollars out
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Speaker 3: there sequestered in bank accounts, whether offshore or not, that
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Speaker 3: people can still tap into that are composed of Minnesota
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Speaker 3: taxpayer dollars. Because if that's the case, then we have
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Speaker 3: the potential that this isn't just a cover up. Then
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Speaker 3: we have the potential that there's an ongoing, active, paid
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Speaker 3: a play scheme going on. And I think we have
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Speaker 3: an obligation to ask are there elected officials involved in this?
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Speaker 3: And people sometimes say, Doc, you're going down a rabbit
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Speaker 3: hole here. That's exactly what happened in nineteen seventy two
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Speaker 3: when Watergate building was broken into people said, well, this
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Speaker 3: will never amount to anything, whatever, whatever, whatever. Two years
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Speaker 3: later we had the president of the most powerful country
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Speaker 3: in the world resigning in order to avoid being impeached.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Doctor Scott Jensen. Go follow doctor Scott Jensen dot com.
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Speaker 1: It's d R. Scott Jensen dot com. Get the book
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Speaker 1: called We've Been Played Exposing the Triad of Tyranny. Had
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Speaker 1: Liz Collin on last week and she gave me some
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Speaker 1: great insight into all this fraud that's happening in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: And somebody actually called the show yesterday, Doc and said,
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Speaker 1: the local media actually covered this thing. Are you starting
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Speaker 1: to see the local legacy media going we can't really
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Speaker 1: ignore this stuff anymore. Right now, Minnesota's on the national
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Speaker 1: stage and we don't say something, we're going to be
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Speaker 1: looked at as who we've been for the past five
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Speaker 1: six years. Is the local media starting to catch on
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Speaker 1: to this or are they still giving cover to what
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Speaker 1: Wallas is doing, what Elison's doing.
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Speaker 3: There's no question the local media is stepping up. There's
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Speaker 3: one media source called the Minnesota Reformer, who is that.
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Speaker 2: If you will.
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Speaker 3: Organization has been identified as being pretty hard left at times,
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Speaker 3: but they've come out and they've asked, Okay, Tim Walls,
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Speaker 3: are you going to take responsibility? There have been some
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Speaker 3: very thoughtful articles that have come out of that agency,
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Speaker 3: asking hard questions, and I think what's happened is that
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Speaker 3: has caused other news organizations to say we better step
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Speaker 3: up to the table. So it may feel like it
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Speaker 3: was on a slow track, but it is encouraging I
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Speaker 3: think to a lot of Minnesotans that we're starting to
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Speaker 3: see the Minnesota media step up say hold it, this
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Speaker 3: is not okay.
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Speaker 2: Tim Walls.
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Speaker 3: Acknowledge where you went wrong, tell us what you're going
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Speaker 3: to do to fix it, and don't just try to
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Speaker 3: blow aviate and throw you know, bs status.
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Speaker 2: We want to know what are you really going to
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Speaker 2: do to solve it.
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Speaker 3: Because right now, I think, right frankly, we've got politicians
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Speaker 3: on both sides of the aisle using this issue to
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Speaker 3: try to run victory laps for things that they didn't earn.
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Speaker 3: This fraud has been going on for more than just
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Speaker 3: during COVID. This was prior to COVID. We saw this
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Speaker 3: when I was in the Senate. We saw it with
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Speaker 3: the daycare program, we saw it with Tim Walls moving
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Speaker 3: people latterly to get him out of the limelight if
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Speaker 3: they weren't doing their job. There was one situation where
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Speaker 3: an Inspector General was literally ignoring the input coming to
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Speaker 3: her and basically she was put on administrative leaves at
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Speaker 3: home for months and months and months, was paid tens
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Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars, and then quietly moved over into
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Speaker 3: another department where she made one hundred and thirty thousand dollars,
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Speaker 3: but she was out of the limelight. There's piece of
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Speaker 3: evidence after evidence after evidence that shows there has been
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Speaker 3: an effort, a very skilled effort, to cover this up,
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Speaker 3: to quiet it down, to shut down any potential whistleblowers.
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Speaker 3: And it's been going on literally since Tim Walls became
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Speaker 3: elected governor.
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Speaker 1: It's doctor Scott Jensen, of course, family position. Go get
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Speaker 1: his book called We've Been Played Exposing the Triad of Tyranny.
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Speaker 1: Let me finish up on the Somalian situation, and thanks
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Speaker 1: for what you just said about the media. I think
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Speaker 1: you're right on all counts. I know there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of good Somalians here. My grandfather was an immigrant,
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Speaker 1: not from Somalia, from Italy, but when he came over,
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Speaker 1: he wanted to be an American. All of his eight
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Speaker 1: children only spoke English, didn't teach him how to speak Italian.
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Speaker 1: Are you finding as new generations come up in the
18:22
Speaker 1: Smalian community they want to be more American? And do
18:25
Speaker 1: you agree with me when I say if more good
18:28
Speaker 1: people from Somalia stepped up to a microphone and a
18:30
Speaker 1: camera and said, we aren't represented by what Omar's doing,
18:35
Speaker 1: by what these seventy eight indicted people did or allegedly
18:39
Speaker 1: did in the scam. We're good people, we want to
18:41
Speaker 1: be Americans, we want to be your neighbors. I almost
18:43
Speaker 1: feel like we need to have more of them step
18:45
Speaker 1: up and say that. Do you agree?
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Speaker 2: I do?
18:48
Speaker 3: And that was why I went down last Monday, about
18:51
Speaker 3: nine days ago. They called me and said national news
18:54
Speaker 3: people are coming out here. And this was before President
18:57
Speaker 3: Trump had made some of his volatile com and so
19:01
Speaker 3: they said, when you come down. So I went down
19:03
Speaker 3: and it was fascinating. The first person I saw that
19:06
Speaker 3: morning running a Somali business was a woman who runs
19:09
Speaker 3: a coffee shop and she said to me, she said,
19:12
Speaker 3: I don't like what Ilhan Omar says or what she
19:15
Speaker 3: stands for. Next person I saw said, why don't the
19:19
Speaker 3: Republicans have a candidate to run against Senator Democrat Senator
19:23
Speaker 3: Omar Fatae, who had just lost the election for mayor
19:27
Speaker 3: in Minneapolis. We wanted to know where's the Republican party
19:30
Speaker 3: to run a candidate against them. The next person I
19:33
Speaker 3: saw said, I don't want to be labeled because of
19:35
Speaker 3: bad Somalis. And I know there are bad Somalis out there,
19:38
Speaker 3: So they do want to They do want their voice
19:42
Speaker 3: to be heard and magnified. And I think even programs
19:45
Speaker 3: like this Joe, where we talk about this, it matters
19:47
Speaker 3: because we have seen immigrant group after immigrant group come
19:51
Speaker 3: to America and make their way. And I think one
19:54
Speaker 3: of the most successful immigrant stories in Minnesota in my
19:57
Speaker 3: lifetime was to literally watch the people from Vietnam Laos,
20:02
Speaker 3: watch the among people, watch the Cambodians, the Ties come
20:05
Speaker 3: to America, come to Minnesota and become an engine for
20:09
Speaker 3: our economy. Did they need the programs that we had
20:11
Speaker 3: set up for a couple of years, Absolutely, But today
20:15
Speaker 3: under Tim Walls, our programs are without rudder, They're without accountability.
20:21
Speaker 3: They blow up from two million to one hundred million,
20:23
Speaker 3: nobody says the word. They go from five million to
20:25
Speaker 3: four hundred million, nobody says the word. A quarter of
20:28
Speaker 3: a billion dollars ago and nobody says the word. And
20:30
Speaker 3: then when employees Minnesota Department of Human Services try to
20:33
Speaker 3: say something, they're squashed. Tim Walls has absolutely allowed this
20:37
Speaker 3: to happen on his watch. And this hurts Somali people.
20:41
Speaker 3: This is not helping them, and they know it. We
20:44
Speaker 3: need to make people that come to our country recognize
20:47
Speaker 3: that we're not interested in having them come in as
20:50
Speaker 3: a trojan whores and undermine the American spirit. We're interested
20:55
Speaker 3: in having them come to our country help build America.
20:58
Speaker 3: And I think we need and are entitled to expect
21:03
Speaker 3: people that come to our country to make some sacrifices,
21:07
Speaker 3: to assimilate, to learn our language, and to help build America,
21:11
Speaker 3: build Minnesota, and love our country.
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Speaker 1: I could not agree more. It's doctor Scott Jensen. Let
21:17
Speaker 1: me ask you about this guy, Jacob Fry. I mean,
21:20
Speaker 1: what a fool. This is a guy who I'm calling
21:22
Speaker 1: him a fool, not you. He obviously went to the
21:25
Speaker 1: Obama speech pattern school. He talks about Somalians, their fathers
21:30
Speaker 1: and entrepreneurs and they make the Minneapolis engine run. We
21:36
Speaker 1: are Somalions. They are Minneapolis. This guy taking the side
21:40
Speaker 1: of one culture or one community over everybody else in Minneapolis.
21:44
Speaker 1: Saint Paul doesn't make sense that he sits down at
21:46
Speaker 1: some Somali restaurant and funnily, I mean it was humorous.
21:50
Speaker 1: His face, what he was eating the food was like
21:52
Speaker 1: it was in pain. But here he is, this guy
21:54
Speaker 1: is completely selling out to just one segment of that
21:57
Speaker 1: of that community and just like leaving everybody else in
22:00
Speaker 1: the cold. And he's talking about possibly calling nine one
22:04
Speaker 1: one on ice agents when they come and not working
22:06
Speaker 1: at all to help law enforcement from the federal government
22:09
Speaker 1: enforce the law. What do you make of this guy?
22:11
Speaker 1: Why is he the mayor? I guess the other choice
22:13
Speaker 1: was really horrible, But why isn't there a Republican or
22:15
Speaker 1: a conservative or a moderate that's running to be the
22:17
Speaker 1: mayor of that great city.
22:20
Speaker 3: Well, Minneapolis has been a blue city for a long time,
22:23
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people are getting fed up.
22:25
Speaker 3: But I think Jacob Fry represents what's happening to politics,
22:30
Speaker 3: not just in Minnesota, but I think across our land.
22:33
Speaker 3: People get elected and they start to have this notion
22:36
Speaker 3: that this seat, this salary, this position of power, is mine,
22:42
Speaker 3: and I'm going to hold onto it regardless of what
22:44
Speaker 3: i have to do. So we are seeing a gross
22:47
Speaker 3: level of pandering of licking your finger and holding it
22:50
Speaker 3: up to see which way the wind's blowing. Today we're
22:53
Speaker 3: seeing virtue signal, virtue signaling like never before. Jacob Frye
22:58
Speaker 3: has at times stepped into the fray and made some
23:02
Speaker 3: solid decisions, but too often, too often, he is literally
23:07
Speaker 3: pandering to what's the flavor of the day. And when
23:11
Speaker 3: he does that, he's not helping Somalia. He's not helping
23:15
Speaker 3: the Somali folks, and he's not helping Minneapolis. He has
23:19
Speaker 3: made very few bold steps that are going to help
23:23
Speaker 3: restore Minneapolis to be the city it was ten twenty
23:26
Speaker 3: years ago. Make no mistake about it, Joe, Minneapolis is
23:30
Speaker 3: in trouble. The streets are empty at night, some of
23:33
Speaker 3: the busiest nightclub kind of places that previously enjoyed tremendous
23:38
Speaker 3: energy and population and people.
23:42
Speaker 2: It's like a desert.
23:43
Speaker 3: It's like a ghost town. Wow, Minneapolis restaurants shutting down.
23:49
Speaker 3: We've had hundreds of restaurants shut down in Minneapolis over
23:53
Speaker 3: the last year. I'ctually over the last several years. So
23:56
Speaker 3: clearly Jacob Fry is going to have to roll up asleep.
24:00
Speaker 3: He's asked himself what he's made of and start making
24:03
Speaker 3: the hard decisions that will help Minneapolis get on a
24:05
Speaker 3: pathway that brings it back, because right now it's not
24:08
Speaker 3: happening and he's not helping the Somalis well.
24:11
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm somebody who lost my business in
24:13
Speaker 1: the Summer of Love the George Floyd riots, I wouldn't
24:15
Speaker 1: come back to Minneapolis. It's not attractive. I don't know
24:18
Speaker 1: what would attract me to do that. In fact, I
24:19
Speaker 1: had somebody called the other day who said they were
24:21
Speaker 1: visiting Minneapolis and they were told by somebody in the
24:24
Speaker 1: Somalian community, don't wear an American flag shirt to the
24:27
Speaker 1: Mall of America. Why because people don't like it there.
24:31
Speaker 1: What is that? That's a very strange thing. I would
24:33
Speaker 1: not think of that great American city in those terms,
24:36
Speaker 1: but I guess you have to. So should you become
24:39
Speaker 1: the governor, do you work with the mayor of Minneapolis
24:42
Speaker 1: and other mayors around the state and say, here's how
24:44
Speaker 1: we can fix it. Here's how we can work as
24:46
Speaker 1: a coalition to bring this city back to greatness or
24:49
Speaker 1: do you think he would be even open to that.
24:53
Speaker 3: I think you would be open to it, because, frankly,
24:55
Speaker 3: as governor, I would demand it, and I would demand
24:57
Speaker 3: a level of transparency that just hasn't had happened. I
25:00
Speaker 3: would tell people, listen, we're going to have these conversations
25:02
Speaker 3: in front of the media. We are going to collectively
25:05
Speaker 3: as a state start solving some of these problems. I
25:09
Speaker 3: think this is why Tim Walls and perhaps others misgauged
25:13
Speaker 3: how critical people have been of the new Minnesota flag.
25:19
Speaker 3: It was that it's smacked of political correctness. It's smacked
25:22
Speaker 3: of a few small people saying, in regards to the
25:26
Speaker 3: Minnesota heritage as reflected on the state seal and the
25:29
Speaker 3: state flag, they just wiped it out. A few people says, no,
25:31
Speaker 3: we're going to change it. People celebrated our flag because
25:36
Speaker 3: it speaks of our past and our president and our future.
25:39
Speaker 3: It talks challenges that we've had in the past, and
25:42
Speaker 3: it speaks to our future. People are furious about what
25:47
Speaker 3: happened to the former Minnesota flag, and it's not because
25:51
Speaker 3: they're racist or anything else. They respect our heritage. The
25:55
Speaker 3: fact that as a state we've had challenges and we've
25:58
Speaker 3: plowed through them and all of us, all that heritage,
26:01
Speaker 3: all that history, all that richness, was thrown out the
26:04
Speaker 3: door because someone said this is politically insensitive. Well, you
26:08
Speaker 3: know what part of our past is politically flawed, and
26:14
Speaker 3: it is part of our past. It doesn't go away
26:17
Speaker 3: just because we want to throw a piece of fabric
26:20
Speaker 3: to the sidelines and have something bland and vanilla take
26:24
Speaker 3: its place.
26:25
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. Doctor Scott Jensen, go to
26:27
Speaker 1: dr Scott Jensen dot com go check out his candidacy
26:29
Speaker 1: for Minnesota governor. In the time we have remaining four
26:32
Speaker 1: or five minutes, Doc, let's talk about who the triad is.
26:35
Speaker 1: We've been played exposing the tryaud of tyranny? Is the book?
26:38
Speaker 1: Show the book again? If you don't mind, let people
26:40
Speaker 1: see the book. You got to go and grab this
26:42
Speaker 1: right now. It's been not for a few years. It's
26:44
Speaker 1: by doctor Scott Jensen. Who is the triad of tyranny?
26:47
Speaker 1: Can you explain who that is? To my audience?
26:50
Speaker 3: It bubbled up much like a volcano in the early
26:53
Speaker 3: twenty twenty and we saw it for the next three
26:55
Speaker 3: or four years where we saw big government allude with
27:00
Speaker 3: big pharmacy, and they worked with big Tech to get.
27:04
Speaker 2: Their message across.
27:05
Speaker 3: We saw a synchronization of messaging like never before, an
27:09
Speaker 3: absolute brainwashing of the American people. You know, this time
27:14
Speaker 3: we said, if there was one false overarching message that
27:18
Speaker 3: should never have been put out there, it was do
27:21
Speaker 3: it for.
27:21
Speaker 2: Gramma, don't kill Gramma.
27:23
Speaker 3: We saw this take place because big tech, big pharma,
27:26
Speaker 3: and big government said it would. We saw big pharma
27:29
Speaker 3: make inroads into profitability they never would have been able
27:32
Speaker 3: to make without big government coming alongside of them. Those
27:36
Speaker 3: three players crushed individual liberties the American people have been
27:41
Speaker 3: guaranteed in the Constitution. We've been played. People were told
27:47
Speaker 3: things that now are coming out there were absolutely not true.
27:50
Speaker 3: We had businesses locked down, we had kids locked out
27:54
Speaker 3: of schools. We had elderly frail people locked in the
27:56
Speaker 3: nursing home facilities, knowing virtually that they die lonely deaths.
28:01
Speaker 3: We've been played and the only way that we can
28:04
Speaker 3: prevent it from happening again, Joe, is by never forgetting.
28:08
Speaker 3: And that's why I wrote the book is We've been played,
28:12
Speaker 3: and there was a triad of tyranny that did it.
28:14
Speaker 3: It's been fascinating to me to watch President Trump dismantle
28:18
Speaker 3: some of this with the FDA, with Bobby Kennedy, Marty McCarey,
28:22
Speaker 3: Jay Bodichari at the NIH. It's been fascinating to watch
28:25
Speaker 3: the big tech companies step in line and acknowledge that
28:29
Speaker 3: what they did was wrong, what they did was unethical attempts.
28:33
Speaker 3: When they shut people down like Eric Alex Berenson, they're
28:37
Speaker 3: coming out saying, yeah, we shouldn't have done that. So
28:39
Speaker 3: I think we're seeing dismantling of this triad and we
28:43
Speaker 3: need to remember how it came to be.
28:46
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And I love all the people
28:48
Speaker 1: that you mentioned. Doctor Ross is involved in that as well.
28:51
Speaker 1: As we're watching it unfold. Though, you see the massive
28:53
Speaker 1: pushback by big Pharma, by big control, you know, apparatus.
28:57
Speaker 1: They don't like it. I mean, they've been attacking Bobby
28:59
Speaker 1: Kennedy from day one. You shouldn't be in that job.
29:01
Speaker 1: They're trying to get rid of him, just like they're
29:03
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Pete Hegseth. But when it
29:04
Speaker 1: comes to the health and Human services side of it,
29:06
Speaker 1: when it comes to the FDA, when it comes to
29:08
Speaker 1: the NIH, when it comes to the CDC, when it
29:10
Speaker 1: comes to HHS. What happens when President Trump, you know,
29:14
Speaker 1: ends his term and God forbid, somebody who's more left
29:18
Speaker 1: gets in there. Did they re establish that control again? Doc?
29:21
Speaker 1: Is there a way to make these changes permanent and
29:24
Speaker 1: keep on fighting back the trillions of dollars that's being
29:26
Speaker 1: invested by big Farmer to keep control. Can this be
29:30
Speaker 1: long lasting?
29:32
Speaker 2: I think it can.
29:33
Speaker 3: And I think the lesson we learned was actually from
29:35
Speaker 3: the colonists more than two hundred years ago. If you
29:38
Speaker 3: look at the uprising that became the American nation, historians
29:43
Speaker 3: have indicated that the number of colonists that wanted to
29:46
Speaker 3: rebel against England was probably less than twenty percent. But
29:52
Speaker 3: through the fights, the battles, and the transparency, literally America
29:58
Speaker 3: became a nation where at one point in time, one
30:02
Speaker 3: hundred percent of its citizens would hold strong to the
30:06
Speaker 3: flag and to what we represent. I think the lesson
30:10
Speaker 3: is transparency, the fact that we have people like doctor
30:13
Speaker 3: Oz and like I said, Marty McCarey, Bobby Kennedy, Jay Bodicharia,
30:18
Speaker 3: and many others, even Robert Redfield, the former CDC director,
30:21
Speaker 3: coming out and saying listen, we should be withdrawing all
30:24
Speaker 3: the mRNA vaccines. This transparency, you will not be able
30:28
Speaker 3: to put the genie back in the bottle when we
30:30
Speaker 3: hear a vaccinologist like doctor Paul Offitt come out acknowledge
30:34
Speaker 3: and confess that he didn't get the boosters for the
30:38
Speaker 3: COVID dection. And this is the guy who was saying it.
30:40
Speaker 3: When we see this happen, they might try to stuff
30:43
Speaker 3: the genie back in the bottle again in three four
30:45
Speaker 3: eight years. I don't think it's going to happen, But
30:47
Speaker 3: I think jd. Vance is going to be the next
30:49
Speaker 3: president after Trump anyway, and I think that's going to
30:51
Speaker 3: give us a chance to continue the open dialogue and
30:54
Speaker 3: continue to enhance transparency, because it's in transparency and in
30:59
Speaker 3: every citizen and taking seriously their obligation to be an
31:03
Speaker 3: engaged American citizen.
31:05
Speaker 2: No sitting in the cheap seats.
31:07
Speaker 3: Every one of us has to walk into the arena
31:09
Speaker 3: and say I'm going to do my part. Joe John
31:13
Speaker 3: Kennedy said it many years ago. Ask not what your
31:15
Speaker 3: country can do for you, but what can you do
31:17
Speaker 3: for your country?
31:18
Speaker 2: The time is now. The time is now.
31:21
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Last question doc, and I appreciate
31:23
Speaker 1: how you spell that. Last question has to be this.
31:25
Speaker 1: People are frustrated because Fauci is still getting four hundred
31:28
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year in his pension and just walks
31:31
Speaker 1: free when this guy lied to us directly into the
31:34
Speaker 1: camera and lied about everything when it came to how
31:37
Speaker 1: we were supposed to act to the pandemic. Will anybody
31:39
Speaker 1: pay the price? Because I think Americans want somebody to
31:43
Speaker 1: pay the price for wronging us for that entire period.
31:48
Speaker 2: I wish I knew the answer, Joe.
31:50
Speaker 3: I think that Pauci and what he got away with
31:53
Speaker 3: and some of his colleagues that made millions and millions
31:56
Speaker 3: of dollars. The amount of profit that Viser made on
32:01
Speaker 3: the vaccines was enormous. And I remember the pviisor CEO
32:05
Speaker 3: telling people that they needed to get vaccinated, not for themselves,
32:09
Speaker 3: but to do it for the next person, to do
32:12
Speaker 3: it for grandma. And now we find out they didn't
32:15
Speaker 3: even have any evidence, no evidence that it would prevent transmission.
32:19
Speaker 3: There was never any real evidence that would say that
32:22
Speaker 3: you should divert from what we've always said regarding vaccines.
32:26
Speaker 3: We tell people to take vaccines to protect themselves. We
32:30
Speaker 3: don't try to guilt them into taking vaccines and say
32:33
Speaker 3: if you don't, you're killing someone else. What was put
32:37
Speaker 3: upon the American people will go down in history as
32:41
Speaker 3: one of the darkest biased messages and propaganda that America
32:47
Speaker 3: ever experienced. This is literally worse than what happened in
32:51
Speaker 3: the Cold War, and.
32:53
Speaker 1: That's probably true. What we're finding out now is just
32:56
Speaker 1: earth shattering and mind numbing. It is Doctor Scott Jensen
33:00
Speaker 1: to Dr Scott Jensen dot com. Support him there and
33:02
Speaker 1: make sure if you're in Minnesota, you gotta consider this guy.
33:04
Speaker 1: I want him to be your next governor. He's running
33:06
Speaker 1: for governor of Minnesota. Get the book, also called We've
33:09
Speaker 1: Been Played Exposing the try out of Tyranny. Doc, thanks
33:11
Speaker 1: for jumping in the chair on short notice. I really
33:13
Speaker 1: appreciate all the time.
33:14
Speaker 2: He gave us.
33:15
Speaker 1: So let's do it again soon.
33:16
Speaker 2: Thanks Joe, thank you so much.
33:18
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for Unshaking and Unafraid with Joe
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Speaker 1: Paggs this time. Another one to drop very soon.