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Unwrapping Creativity: An Evening with Author Winnie Tataw · The All About Nothing: Podcast

9:36
The
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All
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About
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Nothing
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podcast
9:37
may
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have
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language
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and
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content
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that
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isn't
9:40
appropriate
9:40
for
9:40
some.
9:41
Listener
9:41
discretion
9:42
is
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advised.
9:45
Welcome
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Nothing
9:45
nerds
9:46
to
9:46
another
9:46
episode
9:46
of
9:46
the
9:46
All
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About
9:47
Nothing
9:47
podcast.
9:48
This
9:48
is
9:48
episode
9:48
number
9:49
231.
9:50
I
9:50
am
9:50
Barack
9:50
Gruber.
9:51
I'm
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Zach
9:52
King.
9:54
We
9:55
are
9:55
going
9:55
to
9:55
introduce
9:55
our
9:56
guest
9:56
this
9:56
week,
9:57
Winnie
9:57
Tata.
9:58
Did
9:58
I
9:58
say
9:58
that
9:59
right?
9:59
Yes,
10:00
you
10:00
did.
10:01
Fantastic.
10:02
I
10:02
am.
10:02
I
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am
10:03
so
10:03
pleased
10:04
with
10:04
myself.
10:05
And
10:06
it's
10:06
not
10:06
because
10:06
I
10:06
watched
10:07
you
10:07
on
10:07
AMI's
10:08
welcome
10:09
to
10:09
Wonderland.
10:10
I
10:10
sat
10:10
here
10:11
that
10:11
entire
10:11
episode
10:12
and
10:12
had
10:12
to
10:12
listen
10:13
to
10:13
it
10:13
in
10:13
order
10:14
to
10:14
understand
10:15
what
10:15
it
10:15
was
10:15
that
10:15
was
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being
10:16
discussed.
10:17
It
10:17
was.
10:18
I
10:19
get
10:19
accused
10:19
of
10:19
falling
10:20
asleep
10:20
back
10:20
behind
10:21
her
10:21
while
10:21
she's
10:22
recording.
10:22
That's
10:23
a
10:23
fact.
10:24
All
10:24
right.
10:25
Please
10:25
subscribe
10:25
and
10:26
share
10:26
the
10:26
show.
10:26
I
10:27
thought
10:27
that
10:27
was
10:27
going
10:27
to
10:27
be
10:27
funnier.
10:28
More
10:28
laughs.
10:28
Please
10:29
subscribe
10:29
and
10:29
share
10:29
the
10:29
show.
10:29
That's
10:29
how
10:30
we
10:30
get
10:30
new
10:30
listeners.
10:30
Also,
10:31
if
10:31
you
10:31
could,
10:31
please
10:31
consider
10:31
supporting
10:32
the
10:32
show
10:32
financially
10:33
by
10:33
becoming
10:33
a
10:34
visitor,
10:34
becoming
10:34
a
10:35
financial
10:35
supporter,
10:36
visiting
10:36
our
10:37
website
10:37
and
10:37
clicking
10:37
on
10:37
the
10:37
support
10:38
link.
10:38
And
10:38
if
10:38
you
10:38
can't
10:38
do
10:38
that,
10:39
please
10:39
drop
10:39
us
10:39
a
10:39
review,
10:39
hit
10:40
the
10:40
five
10:40
stars,
10:40
give
10:40
us
10:40
a
10:40
thumbs
10:41
up
10:41
or
10:41
leave
10:42
a
10:42
comment.
10:42
All
10:42
that
10:43
leaves
10:43
helps
10:44
drive
10:44
us
10:44
up
10:44
higher
10:45
in
10:45
all
10:45
of
10:45
these
10:45
ratings
10:45
on
10:46
podcast
10:46
platforms.
10:47
Just
10:47
to
10:48
recap
10:48
real
10:48
quick,
10:48
I
10:48
want
10:48
to
10:49
thank
10:49
Midas
10:49
and
10:50
Fame
10:50
from
10:50
the
10:50
no
10:50
Shortcuts
10:51
with
10:51
Midas
10:51
and
10:52
Fame
10:52
from
10:52
last
10:52
week.
10:53
It
10:54
was
10:54
a
10:54
pleasure
10:54
having
10:54
them
10:55
on
10:55
and
10:55
they
10:56
have
10:56
extended
10:56
an
10:57
invitation
10:57
to
10:57
us
10:58
to
10:58
be
10:58
on.
10:59
They.
11:00
You
11:00
can
11:00
check
11:00
out
11:01
all
11:01
their
11:01
episodes.
11:01
It's
11:02
YouTube.com@no
11:06
shortcuts
11:07
show.
11:08
They
11:08
record
11:09
live
11:09
on
11:09
Tuesdays
11:10
at
11:10
noon
11:11
every
11:11
week,
11:12
so
11:13
definitely
11:13
check
11:13
them
11:14
out.
11:14
Fantastic
11:15
show.
11:15
As
11:15
well
11:15
as
11:16
go
11:16
back
11:16
and
11:16
listen
11:16
to
11:16
the
11:16
episode
11:17
because
11:17
we
11:17
talked
11:17
about
11:18
Juan
11:18
who's
11:18
got
11:18
a
11:18
show,
11:19
the
11:20
travel
11:20
People's
11:21
podcast.
11:21
Go
11:21
check
11:21
that
11:22
out.
11:22
It's
11:23
also
11:23
very
11:23
entertaining.
11:24
Zach,
11:24
you
11:24
threw
11:24
your
11:24
finger
11:24
up.
11:25
Did
11:25
you
11:25
want
11:25
to
11:25
say
11:25
something
11:25
or
11:26
were
11:26
you
11:26
just.
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No,
11:27
it
11:27
was
11:27
excellent.
11:28
Yeah,
11:29
it
11:29
was
11:29
really
11:29
good.
11:30
Also,
11:31
want
11:31
to
11:31
thank
11:31
Bill
11:31
Fry
11:32
for
11:32
being
11:32
with
11:32
us.
11:32
USC
11:33
journalist,
11:33
our
11:34
former
11:34
summer
11:35
intern
11:35
and
11:36
producer.
11:37
It
11:37
looks
11:37
as
11:37
though
11:38
he
11:38
is
11:38
having
11:38
an
11:39
enjoyable
11:39
time
11:40
despite
11:40
all
11:40
the
11:41
work
11:41
he's
11:41
doing.
11:42
You
11:42
know
11:42
that
11:42
Wolverine
11:43
meme
11:43
where
11:43
he's
11:43
looking
11:44
at
11:44
that
11:44
picture
11:44
of
11:44
Jean
11:45
Gray
11:45
in
11:45
the
11:45
bed?
11:46
I
11:46
do
11:46
that
11:46
every
11:47
night.
11:47
Bill.
11:48
Get
11:49
it?
11:49
Bill's
11:49
pocket.
11:50
Bill's
11:50
post.
11:51
Where's
11:52
Bill?
11:52
He's
11:52
having
11:53
too
11:53
much
11:53
fun.
11:54
Yeah.
11:55
Also
11:55
want
11:56
to
11:56
remind
11:56
everybody,
11:57
ZJZ
11:57
Designs.
11:58
Go
11:58
check
11:58
out
11:58
ZJZ
11:59
Designs.
11:59
ZJZ
12:00
Designs.com
12:02
you
12:02
can
12:02
look
12:02
and
12:03
I
12:03
know
12:03
Thanksgiving
12:04
is
12:04
coming
12:04
up
12:04
real
12:04
soon.
12:04
Go
12:05
check
12:05
it
12:05
out
12:05
because
12:05
there
12:05
are
12:06
a
12:06
bunch
12:06
of
12:06
Thanksgiving
12:07
prints
12:07
out
12:07
there
12:07
that
12:07
you'll
12:08
want
12:08
to
12:08
check
12:08
out
12:09
and
12:09
purchase.
12:10
Because
12:11
ultimately
12:12
I
12:12
think
12:12
that
12:12
all
12:13
of
12:13
us
12:13
that
12:13
are
12:13
going
12:13
to
12:13
be
12:14
participating
12:14
in
12:15
Thanksgiving
12:15
meals
12:16
need
12:16
to
12:16
be
12:17
wearing
12:17
things
12:17
that
12:18
are
12:18
politically
12:19
neutral.
12:20
Because
12:22
we're,
12:22
we're,
12:23
we're,
12:23
we're,
12:23
we're,
12:24
we're
12:24
going
12:24
to
12:24
visit
12:25
friends
12:25
and
12:25
family
12:25
that
12:26
are.
12:26
You
12:26
could
12:27
get
12:27
a
12:27
shirt
12:27
with
12:28
Trump
12:28
going
12:28
on
12:28
it
12:29
if
12:29
you're
12:29
lucky.
12:32
Oh
12:33
yeah,
12:33
Uncle
12:33
Rob
12:34
will
12:34
love
12:34
you
12:34
at
12:35
Thanksgiving.
12:35
ZJZ
12:36
designs.com
12:37
check
12:38
it
12:38
out.
12:38
Also,
12:39
want
12:39
to
12:39
remind
12:39
everybody
12:39
ever
12:40
play
12:40
sports
12:40
and
12:40
social?
12:41
Currently
12:41
signing
12:41
up
12:42
for
12:42
winter
12:42
sports
12:43
and
12:43
I'm
12:43
going
12:43
to
12:43
go
12:43
through
12:44
this
12:44
list,
12:44
so
12:44
if
12:44
you
12:45
hear
12:45
one
12:45
that
12:45
sounds
12:46
interesting,
12:46
go
12:46
check
12:47
out
12:47
everplaysocial.
12:49
Com
12:49
Tuesday
12:49
indoor
12:50
dodgeball
12:50
at
12:50
the
12:51
Drew
12:51
Wellness
12:51
Center.
12:52
Tuesday
12:52
Super
12:52
Rec.
12:53
Same
12:53
team
12:54
pitch
12:54
kickball
12:54
at
12:55
B
12:55
Avenue
12:56
Wednesday
12:56
kickball
12:56
at
12:57
M
12:57
Avenue.
12:57
Thursday
12:58
kickball
12:58
at
12:58
M
12:58
Avenue
12:59
and
12:59
B
12:59
Avenue.
13:00
Monday
13:00
and
13:01
Tuesday
13:01
volleyball
13:02
at
13:02
Tri
13:02
City
13:03
Leisure
13:03
Center.
13:03
Sunday
13:04
and
13:04
Monday
13:04
softball
13:04
at
13:05
Pacific
13:05
Park.
13:06
Monday
13:06
turf
13:06
soccer
13:07
at
13:07
recreation
13:08
athletics.
13:08
Wednesday
13:09
soccer,
13:09
B
13:09
Avenue
13:10
and
13:10
Bray
13:10
park
13:11
and
13:11
Monday
13:12
pickleball
13:12
at
13:13
Casey
13:13
Tennis
13:14
and
13:14
Fitness.
13:15
All
13:15
of
13:15
those
13:15
are
13:15
Registering
13:16
now
13:16
through
13:16
November
13:17
20th.
13:17
So
13:17
by
13:17
the
13:17
time
13:17
you're
13:18
hearing
13:18
this,
13:19
it
13:19
closes
13:20
like
13:20
in
13:20
two
13:20
days.
13:20
So
13:21
go
13:21
sign
13:21
up.
13:21
These
13:21
are
13:22
going
13:22
to
13:22
sell
13:22
out.
13:22
Do
13:23
it
13:23
quick.
13:24
Finally,
13:24
Tuesday
13:25
bowling
13:25
at
13:25
Bolero
13:26
in
13:26
Casey.
13:27
Registration
13:28
open
13:28
through
13:28
December
13:28
19th
13:29
for
13:29
winter.
13:29
All
13:30
of
13:30
these
13:30
leagues
13:30
start
13:31
I
13:31
think
13:31
in
13:32
December
13:32
or
13:32
January.
13:33
So
13:33
go
13:34
check
13:34
out
13:34
everplay.com
13:35
or
13:36
everplaysocial.com
13:37
in
13:37
order
13:37
to
13:38
to
13:38
get
13:38
all
13:38
that
13:39
information
13:39
and
13:39
sign
13:40
up.
13:40
Because
13:40
personally,
13:41
bare
13:42
knuckle
13:42
fist
13:42
fighting
13:43
Behind
13:43
Hemingway's
13:43
Nermo
13:45
1:00
13:45
in
13:45
the
13:46
morning.
13:49
You
13:49
can
13:50
sign
13:50
up@zachkingpunches
13:52
hard.com.
13:56
Barrett
13:56
I
13:57
changed
13:57
it.
13:57
It's
13:57
called
13:57
get
13:58
this
13:58
Smoke
13:58
Tuck.
14:02
All
14:02
right,
14:03
Our
14:04
guest
14:04
this
14:04
week
14:04
is
14:05
we're
14:05
excited
14:06
to
14:06
have
14:06
Winnie
14:06
Tata
14:06
on
14:07
the
14:07
show.
14:07
Winnie
14:07
is
14:07
an
14:08
independent
14:09
author
14:09
and
14:09
a
14:09
unique
14:09
voice
14:11
and
14:12
an
14:12
approach
14:12
to
14:12
storytelling.
14:13
Her
14:13
writing
14:13
delves
14:14
into
14:14
complexities
14:15
of
14:15
human
14:15
emotion,
14:16
relationship
14:16
and
14:16
personal
14:17
growth,
14:17
drawing
14:18
readers
14:18
into
14:18
worlds
14:19
that
14:19
feel
14:19
both
14:19
familiar
14:20
and
14:20
fresh.
14:21
Through
14:21
her
14:21
blogs
14:22
and
14:22
books,
14:22
Winnie
14:22
has
14:23
also
14:23
connected
14:23
with
14:23
a
14:23
growing
14:24
audience
14:24
who
14:24
appreciate
14:25
her
14:25
honest
14:25
and
14:26
introspective
14:27
narratives.
14:28
We're
14:28
looking
14:29
forward
14:29
to
14:29
exploring
14:30
her
14:30
journey
14:30
as
14:30
an
14:31
author,
14:31
her
14:31
creative
14:32
process,
14:32
and
14:32
the
14:33
inspirations
14:33
behind
14:33
her
14:34
story.
14:34
Welcome,
14:34
Winnie,
14:35
to
14:35
the
14:35
All
14:35
About
14:35
Nothing
14:36
podcast.
14:37
Yes,
14:38
thank
14:38
you.
14:38
I'm
14:38
happy
14:38
to
14:39
be
14:39
here.
14:39
First,
14:40
first,
14:40
I
14:41
want
14:41
to
14:41
ask
14:41
you
14:41
because
14:41
in
14:42
the
14:42
email
14:42
that
14:42
you
14:43
sent
14:43
me
14:43
today,
14:44
you
14:45
mentioned
14:45
a
14:45
TV
14:46
show.
14:47
So
14:47
I
14:48
want
14:48
to
14:48
start
14:48
out,
14:48
what
14:49
are
14:49
the
14:49
details
14:49
about
14:50
this
14:50
TV
14:50
show.
14:52
Yeah.
14:52
So
14:53
WINS
14:53
Literary
14:54
Lounge
14:55
is
14:56
where
14:56
I
14:56
just
14:56
do
14:57
book
14:58
reviews
14:58
and
14:58
interviews
14:59
and
15:00
talk
15:00
about
15:00
everything
15:01
literary
15:02
with
15:02
other
15:03
artists,
15:03
creatives,
15:04
authors,
15:06
and
15:07
just,
15:07
you
15:07
know,
15:08
have
15:08
a
15:08
nice,
15:08
fun,
15:08
chill,
15:09
relaxed
15:09
time.
15:10
And
15:11
usually
15:11
it's
15:11
centered
15:12
around,
15:12
like,
15:13
different
15:13
themes
15:13
of,
15:13
like,
15:14
community,
15:15
independence,
15:16
being
15:16
an
15:17
independent
15:17
author
15:18
or
15:18
writer.
15:19
Podcast,
15:20
finding
15:20
your
15:21
way.
15:25
I
15:26
can't
15:26
speak
15:26
for
15:26
Zach.
15:27
I
15:27
can
15:27
just
15:27
say
15:28
some
15:29
of
15:29
us
15:29
don't
15:29
look
15:29
as
15:30
good
15:30
on
15:30
television
15:31
as
15:31
we
15:31
do
15:32
over
15:32
the
15:32
Internet
15:33
on
15:33
very
15:33
small
15:34
screens.
15:36
Where.
15:36
Where
15:37
can.
15:37
Where
15:37
can
15:37
we
15:37
see
15:38
this
15:38
TV
15:38
show?
15:39
So
15:40
it
15:40
is
15:40
broadcasted
15:41
through
15:42
the
15:42
KDCP
15:43
network.
15:44
Okay.
15:44
Gotta
15:45
remember
15:45
I
15:46
memorized
15:46
it.
15:46
So.
15:48
So
15:48
I
15:48
don't
15:49
get
15:49
any
15:49
of
15:49
the
15:49
letters
15:49
mixed
15:50
up.
15:50
And
15:51
you
15:51
can
15:51
also
15:51
stream
15:52
it
15:52
through
15:53
my
15:54
website
15:54
at
15:54
winsbooks
15:55
Blog
15:56
or
15:56
one
15:56
of
15:56
my
15:56
websites,
15:58
winsbooks
15:59
Blog,
15:59
winsliterary
16:00
Lounge.
16:01
There
16:02
you
16:02
can
16:02
again
16:02
find
16:03
latest
16:04
episodes
16:04
and
16:05
more
16:05
about
16:05
if
16:05
you
16:06
want
16:06
to
16:06
be
16:06
a
16:07
guest
16:07
on
16:07
the
16:07
show
16:08
or
16:08
do
16:08
any
16:08
book
16:09
recommendations.
16:10
Okay,
16:11
let
16:11
me,
16:11
let
16:11
me.
16:11
So,
16:12
any.
16:12
Any
16:13
interesting
16:13
guests
16:14
that
16:14
sort
16:14
of
16:14
stand
16:14
out
16:15
that
16:16
have
16:16
been
16:16
on
16:16
the
16:16
show?
16:18
I
16:19
had
16:19
just
16:21
had.
16:22
Oh,
16:22
my
16:22
goodness.
16:23
Who
16:23
was
16:23
it?
16:24
It
16:24
was.
16:24
Well,
16:25
their
16:25
episode
16:25
hasn't
16:26
come
16:26
out
16:26
yet.
16:27
But
16:28
he
16:28
is
16:28
a
16:28
creative.
16:29
His
16:29
name
16:29
is
16:30
Christian
16:30
Morant
16:31
and
16:32
he
16:32
is
16:33
located,
16:33
I
16:33
believe,
16:33
now
16:34
in
16:34
New
16:34
York.
16:34
And
16:35
he
16:35
does.
16:36
I
16:36
thought
16:36
I
16:36
did
16:36
a
16:36
lot
16:37
of
16:37
creative
16:37
things.
16:37
He
16:37
does
16:38
everything.
16:39
Music,
16:40
acting,
16:41
writing,
16:42
poetry,
16:43
slam
16:44
poetry,
16:45
directing,
16:46
screenplay.
16:46
I
16:47
was
16:47
like,
16:47
oh,
16:47
I
16:48
thought
16:48
I
16:49
did
16:49
everything.
16:50
He
16:50
has
16:50
a
16:50
little
16:51
creative
16:51
adhd.
16:52
He's
16:52
like,
16:53
what?
16:55
There's
16:55
a.
16:55
There's
16:56
a.
16:56
There
16:56
might
16:56
be.
16:56
There
16:56
might
16:57
be
16:57
a
16:57
focus.
16:57
You
16:58
know
16:58
what?
16:58
Don't
16:58
medicate.
16:59
Just
16:59
let
16:59
it.
16:59
Just
16:59
let
17:00
it
17:00
keep
17:00
happening.
17:01
Just.
17:03
That's
17:03
probably
17:03
the
17:03
most
17:03
appropriate
17:04
way
17:04
to
17:04
handle
17:04
that.
17:05
Well,
17:06
that's.
17:06
That's
17:06
fantastic.
17:07
So
17:07
we'll
17:07
check
17:07
that
17:07
out
17:08
at.
17:08
When
17:08
it's
17:09
Winnie
17:09
or
17:10
winsbooks
17:11
Blog,
17:12
correct?
17:13
Yes.
17:13
Okay.
17:14
So
17:15
can
17:15
you.
17:16
Can
17:16
you
17:16
tell
17:16
us
17:16
or
17:17
can
17:17
you
17:17
get
17:17
a
17:17
little.
17:17
Can
17:17
you
17:18
get
17:18
us
17:18
started
17:18
with
17:18
sharing
17:19
with
17:19
us
17:19
a
17:19
little
17:19
bit
17:20
about
17:20
how
17:20
your
17:20
journey
17:21
as
17:21
a
17:21
writer
17:21
began
17:22
and
17:23
maybe
17:23
like
17:24
the
17:24
specific
17:24
moment
17:25
or
17:25
experience
17:26
that
17:26
drew
17:26
you
17:27
into
17:27
storytelling?
17:29
Yeah.
17:29
So
17:30
for
17:30
me,
17:31
I
17:31
think
17:31
it
17:31
started
17:32
way
17:32
way
17:33
when
17:33
I
17:33
was
17:34
even
17:34
younger.
17:36
I
17:37
come
17:37
from
17:37
a
17:37
family
17:37
of
17:38
storytellers,
17:38
so
17:38
my
17:39
parents
17:39
would
17:39
always
17:39
tell
17:40
me
17:40
stories,
17:40
my
17:41
dad
17:41
especially.
17:41
He
17:42
loves
17:42
to.
17:43
Whether
17:43
it's
17:43
embellishing
17:44
stories
17:44
or
17:45
just
17:45
telling
17:46
them
17:46
as
17:46
it
17:46
is.
17:46
He's
17:47
always
17:47
been
17:47
like
17:47
a
17:48
big
17:48
storyteller.
17:49
And
17:50
I've
17:50
always
17:50
loved
17:51
reading
17:52
and
17:52
doing
17:53
little
17:53
writing
17:53
or
17:54
poetry
17:54
when
17:54
I
17:55
could,
17:55
like
17:55
between
17:55
classes
17:56
or
17:57
making
17:57
up,
17:57
like,
17:58
fantasy
17:58
worlds
17:58
from,
17:59
like,
17:59
cartoon
17:59
shows.
17:59
I
18:00
would
18:00
watch
18:01
and
18:04
I
18:04
started
18:05
really
18:05
taking
18:06
it
18:06
seriously.
18:07
My
18:07
mom,
18:09
she
18:10
had
18:10
had
18:11
another
18:12
hip
18:12
surgery,
18:13
and
18:13
I
18:13
was
18:14
on
18:14
Nurse
18:15
Winnie
18:15
Doody.
18:16
So
18:17
she
18:17
had
18:18
no
18:18
choice
18:18
but
18:18
to
18:18
listen
18:19
to
18:19
me.
18:19
And
18:20
I
18:21
was
18:21
just
18:21
going,
18:22
oh,
18:22
I
18:22
have
18:22
this
18:22
idea.
18:23
I'm
18:23
like,
18:23
what
18:23
if
18:23
this
18:24
character
18:24
did
18:24
this?
18:24
And
18:25
this
18:25
happened?
18:26
And
18:26
I
18:26
just
18:26
kept
18:26
going
18:27
on
18:27
and,
18:27
like,
18:28
world
18:28
building.
18:28
And
18:28
she
18:28
was
18:29
like,
18:29
girl,
18:29
please
18:30
write
18:30
this
18:30
down.
18:31
And
18:32
my
18:32
dad,
18:32
being
18:33
the
18:33
cheerleader
18:33
he
18:33
is,
18:34
he's
18:34
like,
18:34
yeah,
18:34
write
18:34
it.
18:35
You
18:35
can
18:35
do
18:35
writing
18:35
or,
18:36
like.
18:36
Like
18:37
a
18:37
book.
18:37
Like
18:38
a
18:38
manuscript.
18:39
Like
18:39
a
18:39
full.
18:40
Like,
18:40
you
18:40
hold
18:41
it,
18:41
sit
18:41
down
18:42
and
18:42
do
18:42
this.
18:42
Yeah,
18:43
yeah.
18:44
So
18:44
I
18:44
was
18:44
like,
18:45
all
18:45
right,
18:45
I'll
18:45
try.
18:46
Then
18:46
I.
18:47
I
18:47
finished
18:48
my
18:48
first
18:48
manuscript.
18:49
I
18:49
was
18:49
like,
18:49
oh,
18:50
I
18:50
can
18:50
do
18:50
this.
18:51
And
18:51
this
18:51
was
18:51
fun.
18:52
How
18:52
did
18:52
that
18:52
feel?
18:53
Like,
18:53
how
18:54
did
18:54
that
18:54
feel
18:54
when
18:54
you
18:55
accomplished
18:55
that?
18:56
The
18:56
impossible
18:57
task?
18:58
It
18:59
was
18:59
a
18:59
bit
18:59
surreal
19:00
because
19:01
for
19:01
me,
19:01
it
19:02
didn't
19:02
feel
19:03
as
19:03
daunting
19:03
as
19:04
I
19:04
thought
19:04
it
19:04
would
19:04
be
19:05
because,
19:05
you
19:05
know,
19:05
I
19:06
read
19:06
a
19:06
lot.
19:07
It.
19:07
Well,
19:08
not
19:08
any.
19:08
Why
19:08
still
19:09
read,
19:09
but
19:09
not
19:09
as
19:09
much
19:10
as
19:10
I
19:10
used
19:10
to
19:10
because
19:10
I'm
19:11
a
19:11
chicken
19:11
with
19:12
no
19:12
head
19:12
running
19:12
around.
19:13
But
19:14
I
19:14
definitely.
19:15
You
19:15
know,
19:16
you
19:16
read
19:16
books
19:16
and
19:16
you're
19:17
like,
19:17
wow,
19:17
this
19:17
is
19:17
like,
19:18
all
19:18
this
19:18
detail
19:19
and
19:19
intricacy,
19:20
and
19:20
you
19:20
can
19:20
hear,
19:20
like,
19:21
the
19:21
author's
19:21
voice
19:21
when
19:22
you're
19:22
read.
19:22
When
19:22
you're
19:23
reading.
19:24
And,
19:24
you
19:24
know,
19:24
being
19:25
able
19:25
to
19:25
sit
19:25
down
19:25
and
19:26
say,
19:26
okay,
19:26
I'm
19:26
going
19:26
to
19:27
write
19:27
60,000
19:29
words
19:30
that
19:30
make
19:30
a
19:31
full,
19:31
complete
19:32
story
19:33
that
19:33
has
19:33
different
19:34
characters
19:34
in
19:34
different
19:35
plots
19:35
or,
19:36
like,
19:36
a
19:36
plot
19:36
twist
19:37
or
19:38
rising
19:38
action
19:39
and
19:39
conflict
19:40
and
19:40
resolutions.
19:41
And
19:41
I'm
19:42
gonna
19:42
do
19:42
that,
19:43
and
19:43
I'm
19:43
gonna
19:44
finish
19:44
it.
19:44
Like,
19:45
I
19:45
was
19:45
like,
19:46
whoa,
19:47
I
19:47
did
19:48
that.
19:48
And
19:48
it
19:48
wasn't.
19:49
It
19:49
didn't
19:50
feel
19:51
daunting.
19:51
Like,
19:52
it
19:52
wasn't
19:52
scary
19:52
for
19:53
me,
19:53
it
19:53
wasn't,
19:53
like,
19:54
a
19:54
very
19:54
hard
19:55
task
19:55
because
19:55
I
19:56
was
19:56
like,
19:56
look,
19:56
if
19:56
I.
19:57
I'm
19:57
gonna
19:57
finish
19:58
this,
19:58
but
19:58
if
19:58
it's
19:58
something,
19:58
I'm,
19:59
like,
19:59
pulling
20:00
teeth.
20:01
One
20:01
and
20:02
done.
20:02
But.
20:05
So
20:05
when
20:05
you.
20:05
When
20:06
you.
20:06
What
20:06
did
20:06
you
20:06
find,
20:08
even
20:08
in,
20:08
you
20:08
know,
20:09
subsequent
20:10
times
20:10
you've
20:10
written,
20:11
what
20:12
is
20:12
the
20:12
hardest?
20:12
Is.
20:12
Is
20:13
it
20:13
the
20:13
end?
20:13
Is
20:13
it
20:13
tying
20:14
it
20:14
into
20:14
a
20:14
bow
20:15
that
20:15
the
20:15
readers
20:16
will
20:16
accept?
20:17
Like,
20:17
we
20:17
all.
20:18
I
20:18
don't
20:18
know
20:18
about
20:18
you,
20:18
Winnie,
20:19
but
20:20
I
20:20
have.
20:20
I've
20:21
read
20:22
a
20:22
lot
20:22
of
20:22
Game
20:22
of
20:22
Thrones,
20:23
but
20:23
watching
20:23
the
20:24
series
20:24
and
20:24
then
20:25
the
20:25
finale
20:26
just
20:26
kind
20:26
of
20:26
killed
20:27
it.
20:27
And
20:27
you're
20:27
like,
20:27
God,
20:28
I
20:28
was
20:28
there
20:28
for
20:28
the
20:28
whole
20:29
thing,
20:29
and
20:29
the
20:29
end
20:30
was
20:30
just
20:31
not
20:31
what
20:32
we
20:32
wanted.
20:32
Is
20:33
the
20:33
end
20:33
the
20:33
hardest?
20:34
Is
20:34
it
20:34
getting
20:35
them
20:35
to
20:35
bite
20:35
at
20:36
the
20:36
beginning?
20:36
Is
20:37
it
20:37
the
20:37
struggle
20:38
we
20:38
need
20:38
to
20:38
relate
20:38
with
20:38
the
20:39
struggle,
20:39
the
20:39
climax,
20:40
Was
20:40
it
20:41
climactic
20:41
enough?
20:42
What's.
20:42
What's
20:43
the
20:43
parts
20:43
you
20:43
think
20:44
were
20:44
maybe
20:45
the
20:45
hardest
20:45
in
20:45
the
20:45
whole
20:46
process?
20:47
For
20:48
me,
20:48
it
20:49
was.
20:50
It's
20:50
the
20:51
ending
20:51
because
20:52
I
20:53
didn't
20:53
want
20:53
it
20:53
to
20:53
end,
20:54
but
20:54
I
20:54
knew.
20:55
I
20:56
didn't
20:56
know
20:57
at
20:57
the
20:57
moment
20:57
that
20:57
I
20:57
was
20:57
gonna
20:58
make
20:58
it
20:58
a
20:58
series,
20:59
but
20:59
I
20:59
was
21:00
like,
21:00
okay,
21:00
this
21:00
is
21:00
gonna
21:00
be
21:01
one
21:01
book.
21:01
I
21:01
need
21:02
to
21:02
find
21:02
an
21:02
ending.
21:03
But
21:04
once
21:04
I
21:04
wrote
21:05
the
21:05
ending,
21:05
I
21:05
was
21:05
like,
21:06
ooh,
21:07
this
21:08
needs
21:08
a
21:08
second
21:08
book.
21:09
So.
21:10
But
21:11
definitely,
21:12
it's.
21:12
Did
21:12
it
21:13
feel
21:13
like
21:13
pushing
21:13
the
21:13
ending
21:14
along?
21:14
You're
21:14
just
21:14
like,
21:15
I'm
21:15
not
21:15
going
21:15
to
21:15
end
21:15
it
21:15
quite
21:16
yet.
21:16
We'll
21:16
do
21:17
that
21:17
later.
21:17
Very
21:17
much.
21:20
How
21:21
often.
21:21
When.
21:22
Like,
21:23
you're
21:23
working
21:24
on
21:24
a
21:24
book
21:24
right
21:24
now,
21:25
correct?
21:26
Yes,
21:26
yes.
21:29
How
21:29
often
21:29
do
21:29
you
21:30
find
21:30
that
21:31
current
21:31
events
21:32
and
21:32
things
21:32
that
21:32
are
21:32
going
21:33
on
21:33
around
21:33
you
21:34
wind
21:34
up
21:35
making
21:35
their
21:35
way
21:36
into
21:36
your
21:36
manuscript?
21:37
Like,
21:38
is
21:38
there
21:38
a
21:39
possibility
21:39
in
21:40
the
21:40
next
21:40
book
21:41
that
21:41
releases
21:42
that's
21:42
being
21:42
written
21:43
currently,
21:44
that
21:44
there's
21:44
an
21:45
evil
21:45
troll
21:45
that's
21:46
occupying
21:47
the
21:47
great
21:47
white,
21:48
you
21:48
know,
21:48
palace
21:49
on
21:49
the
21:49
hill?
21:49
And,
21:50
you
21:50
know,
21:51
oh,
21:52
oh,
21:52
trust
21:52
me.
21:53
It's.
21:53
Literally
21:54
every
21:55
book
21:55
has
21:56
something
21:56
like
21:56
this
21:57
in
21:57
there.
21:58
Do
21:58
you
21:58
have
21:58
to
21:58
go
21:59
back
21:59
and
21:59
go,
21:59
no,
22:00
no,
22:00
not
22:00
here.
22:01
Not.
22:01
This
22:01
isn't
22:01
gonna
22:02
be
22:02
the
22:02
place?
22:04
Surprisingly
22:05
not,
22:06
because
22:07
I
22:08
write
22:08
dark
22:08
fantasy,
22:09
which
22:09
sometimes
22:10
throws
22:10
people
22:11
off
22:11
because
22:11
I'm
22:11
using
22:11
in
22:12
pink
22:12
and
22:12
splashed
22:13
with
22:13
glitter.
22:13
So
22:14
they're
22:14
like,
22:14
oh,
22:14
you
22:15
write
22:15
about
22:16
daddy
22:16
and
22:17
mommy
22:17
issues.
22:17
Okay,
22:18
That's.
22:18
You
22:18
know,
22:18
we
22:19
play
22:19
Dungeons
22:19
and
22:19
Dragons.
22:20
We're
22:20
gonna
22:20
now
22:21
recruit
22:21
you.
22:21
You
22:21
understand
22:22
that,
22:22
right?
22:22
Oh,
22:22
yeah.
22:23
You're
22:23
dungeon.
22:24
You're
22:24
gonna
22:24
be.
22:24
You're
22:24
gonna
22:25
be
22:25
at
22:25
least
22:25
assistant
22:26
dungeon
22:26
master.
22:27
Yeah,
22:28
I'll
22:28
probably
22:28
be
22:28
a
22:29
master.
22:30
I've
22:30
been
22:30
to
22:30
enough
22:31
conventions
22:31
where
22:31
I
22:32
keep
22:32
looking
22:32
at
22:32
the
22:32
dice.
22:32
I'm
22:33
like,
22:33
can
22:33
I
22:33
just
22:33
collect
22:34
them?
22:34
They're
22:34
like,
22:35
that's
22:35
the
22:36
worst
22:36
part
22:36
of
22:36
it.
22:37
I
22:37
know.
22:37
That's.
22:38
I'm
22:38
like.
22:38
And
22:38
I'm
22:39
like,
22:39
wait,
22:39
wait,
22:39
wait.
22:39
I
22:39
feel
22:39
like
22:40
I'm
22:40
getting
22:40
recruited.
22:40
Let
22:41
me
22:41
just.
22:41
Slowly.
22:42
You're
22:42
about
22:42
to
22:42
play,
22:42
and
22:43
you're
22:43
like,
22:43
which
22:43
one
22:43
do
22:44
I
22:44
use?
22:44
I
22:44
have
22:45
$500
22:46
worth
22:46
of
22:46
dice.
22:47
Yeah.
22:51
Oh,
22:51
goodness.
22:52
Yeah.
22:52
I
22:53
just.
22:53
Because
22:54
I
22:54
know,
22:54
like,
22:55
when
22:56
I
22:56
start
22:56
writing,
22:57
like,
22:58
purely
22:58
for
22:58
social
22:59
media
22:59
mostly
23:00
because
23:00
that's
23:00
where
23:01
I
23:01
know
23:01
I'm
23:01
gonna
23:01
have
23:02
the
23:02
least
23:02
effect.
23:04
But
23:06
when
23:06
I
23:06
wr.
23:07
Like
23:07
a
23:07
monologue
23:08
or
23:08
if
23:08
I
23:08
write
23:08
something
23:08
that
23:09
I
23:09
want
23:09
to
23:09
post
23:09
onto
23:10
social
23:10
media,
23:12
even
23:12
if
23:12
it
23:12
has
23:13
nothing
23:13
to
23:13
do
23:14
with
23:14
the
23:15
election
23:16
or
23:16
people
23:17
that
23:17
have
23:17
been
23:17
elected,
23:19
I
23:19
find
23:20
that
23:21
it
23:21
makes
23:22
its
23:22
way
23:22
in,
23:22
even
23:23
if
23:23
it's
23:23
very
23:23
subtle
23:25
little
23:26
things,
23:26
you
23:26
know,
23:26
like,
23:27
I
23:27
mean,
23:28
for
23:28
me,
23:29
I
23:29
think
23:30
I
23:30
made
23:30
a
23:30
post
23:31
recently
23:31
that
23:32
I
23:32
haven't
23:32
published
23:32
because
23:33
I
23:33
scrapped
23:34
it.
23:34
But
23:34
I
23:34
noticed
23:35
that
23:35
some
23:36
of
23:36
the
23:36
things
23:36
that
23:36
I
23:37
was
23:37
trying
23:37
to
23:38
express
23:39
became
23:39
entangled
23:40
in
23:41
what
23:41
I
23:41
call
23:42
a
23:42
spider
23:43
web
23:43
of
23:43
orange
23:44
hair
23:46
and
23:46
everything
23:46
just
23:47
became
23:47
references
23:48
to
23:48
that.
23:48
And
23:49
I
23:49
had
23:49
to
23:50
scrap
23:50
it
23:50
because,
23:54
and
23:54
this
23:55
goes
23:55
for
23:55
a
23:55
lot
23:55
of
23:56
people
23:56
on
23:56
social
23:56
media
23:57
that
23:57
probably
23:57
are
23:58
like
23:58
minded
23:59
that
23:59
right
24:00
now
24:00
at
24:00
this
24:00
point
24:00
I
24:01
feel
24:01
like
24:01
all
24:01
we're
24:01
really
24:02
doing
24:02
is
24:02
just
24:02
trolling
24:04
the
24:04
people
24:04
that
24:04
voted
24:05
against,
24:05
you
24:05
know,
24:06
what
24:07
we
24:07
saw
24:07
as
24:07
a
24:07
better
24:08
future.
24:09
The
24:10
red
24:10
rug
24:10
that
24:10
Bugs
24:11
Bunny
24:11
fights
24:11
and
24:11
a
24:12
bunch
24:12
of
24:12
cartoons.
24:13
Yeah,
24:14
it's
24:15
rabbit
24:15
season.
24:15
No,
24:16
it's
24:16
duck
24:16
season.
24:16
It's
24:16
rabbit
24:17
season,
24:18
you
24:19
know.
24:19
But
24:20
so,
24:20
so
24:21
when
24:21
you're
24:21
writing,
24:22
I
24:22
guess
24:22
is
24:24
are
24:24
there
24:24
any
24:25
characters
24:25
that
24:25
are
24:26
in
24:26
your
24:26
current,
24:27
your
24:28
current
24:28
project
24:28
that
24:29
someone
24:30
might,
24:30
would,
24:30
would
24:31
look
24:31
at
24:31
or
24:32
someone
24:32
would,
24:32
might
24:32
would
24:32
read
24:33
a
24:33
description
24:33
of
24:33
and
24:33
say
24:34
that
24:34
reminds
24:35
me
24:35
of
24:36
so
24:36
and
24:36
so,
24:36
whether
24:37
they're
24:37
a
24:37
heroine
24:38
or
24:38
they're
24:38
a
24:39
hero
24:39
or
24:39
they're
24:40
anti,
24:40
you
24:40
know,
24:41
that,
24:42
that
24:42
sort
24:42
of
24:42
thing.
24:43
What
24:43
does
24:44
that,
24:44
does
24:44
that
24:45
happen?
24:45
Is
24:45
that
24:45
happening
24:46
right
24:46
now?
24:47
Oh,
24:47
that
24:47
happens
24:48
all
24:48
the
24:49
time.
24:49
I,
24:50
I
24:51
pride
24:51
myself
24:51
on
24:52
saying
24:52
I
24:52
write
24:53
character
24:53
driven
24:54
stories,
24:54
so
24:55
I
24:55
love
24:56
more
24:56
when
24:56
the
24:57
reader
24:57
can
24:57
connect
24:58
to
24:58
the
24:58
characters.
24:59
Okay.
25:00
Of
25:00
course
25:00
there's
25:00
going
25:00
to
25:00
be
25:01
plot.
25:01
Like
25:01
they're
25:01
going
25:01
to
25:01
be
25:02
doing
25:02
stuff.
25:02
I'm
25:02
not
25:02
going
25:02
to
25:03
just
25:03
have
25:03
them
25:03
sitting
25:03
in
25:03
the
25:04
room
25:04
talking
25:06
or
25:06
doing
25:07
podcasts.
25:07
But.
25:13
I
25:13
definitely
25:14
try
25:14
to
25:14
make
25:15
sure
25:15
that,
25:15
you
25:16
know,
25:16
the
25:16
characters
25:16
I'm
25:16
writing
25:19
have
25:19
meaning
25:20
to
25:20
them
25:20
and,
25:21
you
25:21
know,
25:21
they
25:21
feel
25:22
realistic,
25:23
like
25:23
their
25:23
choices
25:24
aren't
25:24
just
25:24
like,
25:25
oh,
25:25
I'm
25:26
going
25:26
to
25:26
do
25:26
this.
25:27
I'm
25:27
going
25:27
to
25:27
always
25:27
tell
25:28
the
25:28
truth
25:28
because
25:28
I'm
25:29
a
25:29
good
25:29
boy.
25:29
And
25:30
that's
25:30
what
25:30
good
25:30
boys
25:31
do.
25:31
They're
25:31
truthful.
25:31
And
25:32
it's
25:32
like,
25:32
no,
25:33
I'm
25:33
going
25:34
to
25:34
lie
25:34
a
25:34
bit
25:34
for
25:34
a
25:34
couple
25:35
of
25:35
years
25:35
and
25:35
hopefully
25:35
this
25:36
doesn't
25:36
blow
25:37
up
25:37
in
25:37
my
25:37
face.
25:37
And
25:38
of
25:38
course
25:38
it
25:38
does
25:39
blow
25:39
up
25:39
in
25:39
their
25:39
face
25:39
and
25:40
they
25:40
try
25:40
to
25:40
cover
25:40
it
25:40
up
25:41
with
25:41
more
25:41
lies,
25:41
which
25:42
makes
25:42
things
25:43
worse.
25:43
And
25:43
you
25:43
know,
25:44
you
25:44
just,
25:45
you
25:45
know,
25:45
kind
25:45
of
25:46
repeat
25:46
that
25:46
cycle.
25:47
But
25:47
I
25:47
definitely
25:49
try
25:49
to
25:49
make
25:50
sure,
25:50
you
25:50
know,
25:50
there
25:50
are
25:51
characters
25:51
that
25:51
you,
25:52
you're
25:53
rooting
25:53
for,
25:53
but
25:53
also
25:54
characters
25:54
that
25:54
you
25:55
can,
25:56
you
25:56
know,
25:56
you
25:57
can
25:57
see
25:57
why
25:58
they
25:58
do
25:58
bad
25:59
and
25:59
you
25:59
can
25:59
understand
26:00
where
26:00
that
26:00
pain
26:01
and
26:01
hurt
26:01
comes
26:01
from,
26:02
but
26:02
you
26:02
can
26:02
still
26:02
acknowledge
26:03
that
26:03
that
26:03
doesn't
26:04
give
26:04
them
26:04
an
26:04
excuse
26:05
to
26:05
go
26:05
and
26:05
say,
26:06
you
26:06
know
26:06
What?
26:07
I
26:07
think
26:07
he'll
26:08
40
26:08
people
26:08
today
26:09
that
26:10
that's
26:10
reasonable
26:11
because
26:11
my
26:11
mother
26:12
didn't
26:12
love
26:12
me.
26:12
That
26:13
is
26:13
a
26:13
thing.
26:14
No,
26:15
that.
26:18
I'm
26:18
sorry
26:18
that
26:18
happened
26:19
to
26:19
you,
26:19
but
26:20
that
26:20
does
26:20
not
26:21
mean
26:21
you
26:21
also
26:22
get
26:22
to
26:22
do
26:22
bad
26:23
behavior.
26:23
That's
26:23
not
26:24
how
26:24
that
26:24
works.
26:25
That's
26:25
fair.
26:28
The
26:28
only.
26:29
The
26:29
most
26:30
serious
26:30
thing
26:30
I've
26:30
ever
26:31
written
26:31
was
26:32
a
26:32
story
26:32
for
26:32
a
26:33
video
26:33
game
26:33
when
26:33
I
26:33
was
26:33
in
26:34
college.
26:34
And
26:35
I
26:35
found
26:35
it
26:36
so
26:36
hard
26:36
to
26:37
deliver
26:37
the
26:37
origin
26:38
story
26:38
part
26:38
of
26:39
it
26:39
to
26:40
give
26:41
meaning
26:41
to
26:41
the
26:41
character.
26:42
And
26:42
it
26:42
took
26:42
me
26:42
a
26:43
very
26:43
long
26:43
time
26:43
to
26:43
finally
26:44
do
26:44
it.
26:44
And
26:44
it
26:44
turned
26:44
out
26:44
to
26:44
be
26:45
pretty
26:45
good.
26:45
Someone
26:46
bought
26:46
it
26:46
off
26:46
of
26:46
me.
26:47
It
26:47
has
26:47
not
26:47
turned
26:48
into
26:48
a
26:48
video
26:48
game,
26:49
but,
26:50
you
26:50
know.
26:50
And
26:51
the
26:51
other
26:51
thing
26:51
I
26:51
wrote
26:52
that
26:52
I'm
26:52
very
26:52
proud
26:52
of
26:53
for
26:53
this
26:53
podcast
26:54
was
26:54
a
26:54
sketch
26:55
about
26:56
someone
26:56
in
26:57
a
26:57
submarine
26:57
who
26:57
toots
26:58
too
26:58
much
26:59
and
26:59
how
26:59
you
27:00
deal
27:00
with
27:00
it.
27:02
That
27:03
sounds
27:03
like
27:03
torture,
27:04
actually.
27:04
That.
27:06
Let
27:06
me.
27:07
Let
27:07
me
27:07
just
27:08
fast
27:08
forward
27:08
to
27:08
the
27:08
ending
27:09
on
27:09
that
27:09
one.
27:09
At
27:10
the
27:10
end
27:10
of
27:10
it,
27:11
Zach
27:11
had
27:12
our
27:13
former
27:13
black
27:13
co
27:14
host
27:14
on
27:15
the.
27:15
On
27:15
the
27:16
outside
27:16
of
27:16
a
27:16
submarine
27:17
scraping
27:18
barnacles.
27:19
Was.
27:19
Am
27:19
I.
27:19
Is
27:19
that
27:20
right?
27:20
No,
27:20
he
27:20
was.
27:21
He.
27:22
So
27:22
we
27:22
ad
27:22
libbed
27:23
it.
27:23
He
27:23
decided
27:24
he
27:24
was
27:24
the
27:24
fin
27:25
washer.
27:26
That's
27:26
right.
27:26
Okay,
27:27
you're
27:27
right.
27:28
You're
27:28
right.
27:28
So
27:28
I
27:29
told
27:29
him
27:29
to
27:29
jump
27:29
into
27:29
the
27:30
ocean
27:30
and
27:30
wash
27:30
the
27:31
fin,
27:32
and
27:33
he
27:33
did
27:33
it
27:33
just
27:33
to
27:34
escape
27:34
the
27:34
smell
27:35
that
27:35
the
27:35
captain
27:35
was
27:36
actually
27:36
releasing
27:37
in
27:37
blaming
27:38
on
27:38
everybody
27:38
else.
27:39
Yeah.
27:39
Oh,
27:40
yeah.
27:40
I
27:40
would
27:40
go,
27:41
yeah.
27:41
I'd
27:41
be
27:41
like,
27:41
oh,
27:42
yeah,
27:42
let
27:42
me
27:42
go
27:42
clean
27:43
the
27:43
outside.
27:44
They're
27:44
like,
27:44
underwater.
27:45
Yeah,
27:45
yeah.
27:46
Can
27:46
I
27:46
leave
27:46
the.
27:47
Like,
27:47
when
27:48
we
27:48
were.
27:48
We
27:48
were
27:49
like
27:49
leagues
27:50
under
27:50
the
27:50
scene.
27:51
Like,
27:51
up,
27:52
we
27:52
gotta
27:52
go
27:52
up.
27:52
We
27:53
gotta
27:53
get
27:53
out.
27:54
No,
27:55
I'm
27:55
just
27:55
opening
27:55
the
27:55
hatchet
27:56
right
27:56
now.
27:57
Yeah,
27:57
it
27:57
was.
27:57
It
27:58
was
27:58
a
27:58
situation.
27:59
It
27:59
was
27:59
a
27:59
situation
27:59
where
28:00
drowning
28:00
was
28:01
definitely
28:01
a
28:01
more
28:02
optimistic
28:03
view,
28:03
the
28:03
superior
28:04
option.
28:05
So
28:06
you've
28:07
written
28:07
some
28:07
very
28:08
introspective
28:08
and
28:08
emotionally
28:09
driven
28:09
stories.
28:10
Where
28:11
do
28:11
you
28:11
find
28:11
the
28:11
inspiration
28:12
for
28:12
the
28:12
themes
28:13
and
28:13
the
28:13
characters
28:14
that
28:14
you
28:15
do
28:15
build?
28:17
Well,
28:17
I
28:18
kind
28:18
of
28:18
just
28:19
collect
28:19
from.
28:21
I
28:21
wouldn't
28:21
say
28:22
my
28:22
personal
28:23
life,
28:23
but
28:24
just
28:24
personal
28:24
stories
28:25
and
28:26
reflecting
28:27
on
28:27
people
28:27
I've
28:28
met
28:28
or
28:29
seen
28:30
I've
28:30
connected
28:31
with.
28:32
No
28:33
character
28:33
I
28:33
say
28:33
is
28:34
like
28:34
a
28:34
carbon
28:35
copy
28:35
off
28:35
of
28:36
anyone
28:36
I
28:36
know,
28:38
but
28:38
there
28:38
might
28:38
be
28:39
bits
28:39
and
28:39
pieces.
28:39
Like
28:40
my
28:41
brother,
28:41
he
28:41
was
28:41
like,
28:42
did
28:42
you
28:42
write
28:42
this
28:42
character,
28:43
Robbie?
28:43
I'm
28:43
like,
28:44
no,
28:44
you
28:44
guys
28:44
are
28:45
just
28:45
both
28:45
sassy.
28:47
I
28:47
wrote
28:47
that
28:47
about
28:47
the
28:48
time
28:48
you
28:48
were
28:48
sassy.
28:49
Yeah,
28:49
exactly.
28:50
It's
28:50
like
28:50
the
28:50
time
28:51
you
28:51
were
28:51
given
28:51
sass.
28:51
And
28:52
I
28:52
was
28:52
like,
28:52
relax.
28:54
But
28:54
I
28:55
definitely.
28:56
I
28:57
also,
28:57
again,
28:57
pull
28:57
from
28:58
world
28:58
war
28:59
or
29:00
real
29:00
world
29:01
aspects
29:02
and
29:02
stories
29:03
as
29:03
well.
29:04
Like
29:04
I
29:04
said,
29:05
my
29:06
books
29:06
do,
29:06
you
29:07
know,
29:07
it's
29:07
about
29:08
royal
29:08
families
29:09
and
29:09
how
29:09
messed
29:10
up
29:10
they
29:10
are.
29:11
And
29:12
you
29:12
kind
29:12
of
29:13
see,
29:13
it's
29:13
like
29:13
looking
29:14
in,
29:15
you
29:15
see
29:15
the
29:15
inside
29:16
turmoil
29:17
and
29:17
chaos,
29:18
but
29:18
on
29:19
the
29:19
outside,
29:19
you
29:20
kind
29:20
of
29:20
see,
29:20
like,
29:20
oh,
29:21
well,
29:21
you
29:21
know,
29:21
they're
29:21
the
29:21
perfect
29:22
royal
29:22
family
29:23
and
29:23
they're
29:23
loved
29:23
and
29:24
all
29:24
this
29:24
stuff.
29:24
Like,
29:25
we're
29:25
going
29:25
to
29:25
forget
29:25
what
29:25
they
29:26
did
29:26
20
29:26
years
29:26
ago,
29:27
but,
29:28
you
29:28
know,
29:28
you.
29:29
You
29:30
know,
29:30
they're
29:30
doing
29:30
great
29:31
now.
29:31
Like,
29:31
let's
29:32
just
29:32
ignore
29:33
what
29:34
they
29:34
did
29:34
10
29:34
years
29:34
ago.
29:35
That.
29:35
That
29:36
it's
29:37
fine.
29:37
It's
29:38
fine.
29:38
You
29:38
know,
29:39
they're
29:39
just,
29:39
you
29:39
know,
29:39
they
29:40
gave
29:40
us
29:40
a
29:40
little
29:40
money
29:41
and,
29:41
you
29:41
know,
29:41
they.
29:42
They
29:42
raised,
29:43
you
29:43
know,
29:44
the
29:44
income
29:44
or
29:44
whatever
29:45
for
29:45
people,
29:46
and
29:46
we're
29:46
just
29:46
gonna
29:46
forget
29:47
about.
29:47
It
29:48
never
29:48
happened.
29:48
It
29:48
never
29:49
happened.
29:50
So
29:51
I.
29:51
I
29:51
do
29:52
a
29:52
lot
29:52
of,
29:52
you
29:52
know,
29:53
of
29:53
that
29:53
type
29:54
of
29:54
reflection,
29:54
too.
29:56
And
29:57
again,
29:57
a
29:57
lot
29:57
of
29:59
hypocrisy
30:00
that
30:00
happens
30:01
in
30:01
just
30:01
the
30:02
world
30:02
I
30:02
write,
30:03
especially
30:03
in
30:03
the
30:03
second
30:04
book.
30:04
Some
30:05
it
30:05
highlights,
30:06
like,
30:06
between
30:08
the
30:09
civil
30:09
war
30:09
that's
30:10
impending
30:11
and,
30:11
you
30:11
know,
30:12
the
30:12
two
30:12
sides
30:12
that
30:13
are
30:13
fighting
30:14
are
30:14
like,
30:15
it's
30:15
a
30:15
fantasy
30:16
world.
30:16
And
30:16
you
30:17
would
30:17
think
30:17
people
30:18
wouldn't
30:18
be
30:19
divisive
30:20
on
30:20
race,
30:21
but
30:22
yet,
30:23
you
30:23
know,
30:23
you
30:23
have,
30:24
you
30:24
know,
30:25
humans
30:25
and
30:26
you
30:26
have
30:26
robots
30:27
and
30:27
you
30:27
have
30:27
mermaids,
30:28
and
30:28
you
30:28
have
30:28
people
30:28
with
30:29
scales
30:29
and
30:29
can
30:29
breathe
30:30
fire.
30:31
And
30:31
there
30:31
are
30:31
still.
30:32
People
30:32
are
30:32
like,
30:32
okay,
30:32
but
30:33
we
30:33
can
30:33
still
30:33
divide
30:34
this
30:34
and
30:34
we
30:34
can
30:34
still
30:35
say,
30:35
well,
30:35
this.
30:36
This
30:36
one
30:36
is
30:37
the
30:37
good
30:37
dragon,
30:38
this
30:38
one's
30:38
a
30:38
bad
30:38
dragon.
30:39
And
30:39
then
30:39
you
30:39
have
30:40
the
30:40
people
30:40
who
30:40
are
30:40
actually
30:41
have
30:41
dragons
30:41
saying,
30:42
don't
30:42
call
30:42
us
30:42
dragons.
30:43
We're
30:43
not
30:43
animals,
30:44
please.
30:44
And
30:44
it's
30:44
like,
30:45
we're
30:45
not
30:45
going
30:45
to
30:45
listen
30:45
to
30:46
y'all.
30:46
So
30:47
as
30:47
long
30:48
as
30:48
the
30:48
dragons
30:48
didn't
30:48
come
30:49
and
30:49
say,
30:49
call
30:49
us
30:49
wyverns,
30:50
we're
30:51
not
30:51
dragons.
30:51
I'd
30:52
be
30:52
like,
30:52
all.
30:53
All
30:53
right.
30:55
I'm
30:55
very
30:56
intrigued.
30:56
Very
30:57
intrigued.
30:57
I'm
30:57
definitely
30:57
gonna
30:58
pick
30:58
up
30:58
your
30:58
book.
30:59
Thank
30:59
you.
31:00
When
31:01
it
31:01
comes.
31:01
When
31:01
it
31:01
comes
31:02
down
31:02
to
31:02
it,
31:02
is
31:02
there
31:02
any
31:04
topic
31:04
that
31:04
you're
31:04
like,
31:04
I
31:05
haven't
31:05
written
31:05
about,
31:05
but
31:06
I'm
31:06
very
31:06
eager
31:07
to
31:07
jump
31:07
into.
31:08
Oh,
31:09
yeah.
31:09
I'm.
31:11
Again,
31:12
again,
31:12
to
31:14
some
31:14
people's
31:15
disbelief,
31:15
I'm
31:16
very
31:17
punk
31:17
rock.
31:18
I
31:18
love
31:18
heavy
31:18
metal.
31:19
That's
31:19
I
31:20
and
31:21
I.
31:22
Zach
31:22
is
31:22
your
31:22
man.
31:23
Yeah.
31:24
Oh,
31:24
yeah.
31:25
Hardcore
31:26
metal.
31:26
All
31:26
of
31:26
it.
31:27
Yes.
31:28
You,
31:28
like,
31:28
bring
31:29
me
31:29
the
31:29
horizon.
31:30
I
31:31
haven't.
31:31
I
31:31
haven't
31:31
gone
31:32
to
31:32
them
31:32
yet.
31:33
Who
31:33
I.
31:35
Okay.
31:36
I
31:36
have
31:36
to
31:36
say.
31:36
I
31:37
have
31:37
to
31:37
keep
31:37
note.
31:38
Okay,
31:38
I
31:38
know
31:39
who
31:39
is.
31:39
I
31:39
Just
31:40
listening
31:40
to,
31:41
I
31:41
think.
31:41
Is
31:41
it
31:41
Polaris?
31:42
Polaris,
31:43
yes.
31:44
Yes,
31:44
I
31:44
know
31:44
you're
31:44
talking
31:45
about
31:45
Polaris.
31:46
Yeah.
31:46
And
31:46
then
31:46
I've
31:46
been
31:47
on
31:47
bad
31:47
omens
31:48
for,
31:48
like,
31:48
a
31:49
month.
31:50
That's
31:51
a
31:51
hard.
31:51
That's
31:51
a
31:51
hard
31:51
habit
31:52
to
31:52
kick.
31:52
Bad
31:52
humans.
31:53
Once
31:53
you
31:53
hear
31:53
that
31:53
first
31:54
one,
31:54
you're
31:54
like,
31:55
oh,
31:55
yeah,
31:57
let's
31:57
go.
31:58
You
31:58
have
31:59
been
31:59
in
31:59
my
31:59
care.
32:00
And
32:01
then
32:01
there's
32:01
another
32:02
one,
32:02
I
32:02
think,
32:02
is
32:02
it,
32:03
oh,
32:03
my
32:03
goodness,
32:04
say,
32:05
catch
32:05
my
32:05
breath
32:06
or
32:06
catch
32:06
your
32:06
breath.
32:07
I
32:07
forgot
32:07
the
32:08
name
32:08
of
32:08
them.
32:09
It's
32:09
something.
32:09
Catch
32:10
something
32:12
now
32:12
you
32:12
have
32:13
to
32:13
tell.
32:13
Me
32:13
when
32:13
you
32:13
figure
32:13
it
32:14
out.
32:17
But
32:18
kind
32:18
of
32:19
speaking
32:19
with
32:19
that,
32:20
I
32:20
very.
32:20
I.
32:21
I
32:22
don't
32:22
want
32:22
to
32:22
say
32:22
I
32:22
love
32:23
death,
32:23
but
32:23
I
32:23
love
32:23
talking
32:24
about,
32:24
like,
32:25
death
32:25
and
32:26
exploring
32:27
how
32:28
we.
32:29
How
32:30
we
32:30
perceive
32:30
it
32:31
and
32:33
experience
32:34
it.
32:34
So
32:34
I
32:34
definitely
32:35
have
32:35
a
32:35
few
32:36
books
32:36
that
32:37
really
32:37
kind
32:37
of,
32:39
you
32:39
know,
32:39
I
32:40
always
32:40
kind
32:40
of,
32:40
you
32:40
know,
32:41
add
32:41
fantasy
32:42
to
32:42
it
32:42
and
32:43
mythology,
32:44
but,
32:44
you
32:45
know,
32:45
exploring
32:46
those
32:46
things
32:47
a
32:48
lot
32:48
more
32:48
than
32:48
I
32:49
have
32:49
already.
32:50
I'm
32:50
really
32:50
kind
32:50
of
32:50
pushing
32:51
it.
32:51
Like,
32:51
you
32:51
know,
32:52
what.
32:52
What
32:53
happens
32:53
when
32:53
we
32:53
die?
32:53
And
32:54
how,
32:54
you
32:55
know,
32:56
how
32:56
many
32:56
good
32:56
deeds
32:57
do
32:57
you
32:57
need
32:57
to
32:58
do
32:58
to
32:58
have
32:59
a
32:59
peaceful
32:59
rest?
33:00
Or
33:00
how
33:00
many
33:01
bad
33:01
deeds
33:01
do
33:01
you
33:01
need
33:01
to
33:02
do?
33:02
Like,
33:02
who
33:02
is
33:03
the
33:03
judgment?
33:04
How
33:04
is
33:04
it
33:04
judged?
33:05
And,
33:06
you
33:06
know,
33:06
who
33:06
gets
33:07
to
33:07
inflict
33:08
those
33:08
judgments?
33:08
So
33:09
I
33:10
can't
33:11
wait
33:11
to
33:11
start
33:11
writing
33:11
about
33:12
that.
33:12
Oh,
33:13
that
33:13
sounds
33:13
amazing.
33:14
And
33:15
listen,
33:15
and
33:15
Barrett's
33:16
gonna
33:16
be
33:16
like,
33:16
jesus,
33:16
a
33:16
sec.
33:17
But
33:17
my
33:18
favorite
33:18
band
33:18
of
33:18
all
33:18
time
33:19
is
33:19
Coheed
33:19
and
33:19
Cambria,
33:20
right?
33:21
I'm
33:21
not
33:22
gonna
33:22
fault
33:22
you
33:22
for
33:22
that.
33:23
You
33:23
have
33:23
plenty
33:23
of
33:23
other
33:24
defects.
33:25
But
33:25
the
33:25
very
33:25
cool
33:26
thing
33:26
about
33:27
Coheed
33:27
and
33:27
Cambria
33:28
is
33:29
that
33:29
they're
33:29
a
33:29
progressive
33:30
rock
33:30
band.
33:30
But
33:31
their
33:32
entire
33:32
discography
33:33
from
33:34
25
33:35
years
33:35
ago
33:36
till
33:36
today
33:36
is
33:37
telling
33:37
a
33:37
story
33:38
that
33:38
is
33:38
also
33:39
has
33:39
comic
33:39
book
33:40
companions,
33:41
novel
33:41
companions
33:42
that
33:42
you
33:42
can.
33:43
You
33:43
can
33:43
listen
33:44
to
33:44
the
33:44
music
33:44
and
33:44
follow
33:45
the
33:45
story,
33:45
and
33:46
as
33:46
you
33:46
hear
33:46
it,
33:46
you're
33:47
building
33:47
the
33:47
story
33:47
in
33:48
your
33:48
head,
33:48
and
33:48
then
33:48
you
33:49
can
33:49
go
33:49
get
33:49
the
33:49
comic
33:50
books
33:50
and
33:51
read
33:51
the
33:51
story
33:51
they've
33:52
written
33:52
that
33:52
these
33:53
songs
33:53
are
33:53
for.
33:54
Oh,
33:55
that
33:55
is
33:55
cool.
33:56
It's
33:57
very
33:57
cool.
33:58
So
33:58
that
33:58
leaves
33:58
me
33:58
to
33:58
ask
33:59
you
33:59
this.
33:59
You
33:59
ever
33:59
tried
33:59
to
34:00
write
34:00
any
34:00
songs,
34:01
any
34:01
lyrics,
34:02
any.
34:02
Any
34:03
kind
34:03
of
34:03
thing
34:03
like
34:04
that?
34:04
Come
34:04
on.
34:05
You
34:05
listen
34:05
in
34:05
the
34:05
metal.
34:09
I
34:09
know.
34:11
I,
34:12
I,
34:13
I,
34:13
I
34:14
love.
34:14
I
34:14
am
34:14
a
34:14
lover
34:15
of
34:15
all
34:15
music.
34:16
Well,
34:16
most
34:17
music.
34:18
But
34:18
I
34:19
have
34:19
never
34:19
said,
34:19
you
34:20
know
34:20
what?
34:20
I
34:20
can.
34:20
I
34:20
can
34:21
make
34:21
a
34:21
song
34:21
out
34:21
of
34:21
this,
34:22
because
34:23
it
34:23
would
34:23
be
34:23
very
34:24
much
34:24
like,
34:24
you
34:25
break
34:25
my
34:25
heart,
34:26
I
34:27
break
34:27
your
34:28
finger.
34:29
Finger.
34:30
There
34:30
we
34:30
go.
34:32
How
34:33
Dolph,
34:33
I
34:33
feel
34:33
that
34:33
Romeo.
34:34
I
34:34
just,
34:34
I.
34:35
In
34:35
case
34:35
there
34:35
are
34:35
any
34:35
children
34:36
in,
34:36
you
34:36
know,
34:37
listening
34:37
in
34:37
somebody's
34:37
car.
34:38
I
34:38
just
34:38
didn't
34:38
want.
34:38
I
34:39
didn't
34:39
want
34:39
them
34:39
to
34:39
hear
34:40
I
34:40
break
34:40
off
34:40
your.
34:41
And.
34:45
What
34:46
can
34:46
I
34:46
say?
34:46
Cart.
34:47
That,
34:47
that's
34:48
a,
34:48
you
34:48
know,
34:48
that,
34:49
you
34:49
know,
34:49
let
34:49
me
34:50
go
34:50
to,
34:50
you
34:50
know,
34:51
a
34:51
big
34:51
company
34:51
and
34:52
be
34:52
like,
34:52
I
34:52
got
34:52
a
34:52
song
34:52
for
34:53
y'all.
34:53
Yeah,
34:54
break
34:54
my
34:54
heart.
34:54
I
34:55
break
34:55
your
34:55
cart.
34:55
I
34:56
don't
34:56
know
34:56
what
34:56
type
34:56
of
34:56
cart.
34:57
I
34:57
don't
34:57
know.
34:58
Don't
34:58
know
34:59
if
34:59
we're
34:59
in
34:59
the
34:59
grocery
35:00
store.
35:00
So
35:00
name
35:01
it.
35:01
Grocery
35:01
store
35:02
song.
35:02
I
35:03
was
35:03
going
35:03
to
35:03
say
35:04
I
35:04
break
35:04
your
35:04
cart.
35:05
Clearly
35:05
this
35:05
is
35:05
a
35:06
country
35:06
song.
35:09
My
35:10
wife
35:10
would
35:10
say
35:10
my.
35:11
My
35:11
best
35:11
writing
35:12
talent
35:12
is
35:12
just
35:12
hearing
35:13
a
35:13
song
35:13
and
35:13
then
35:14
making
35:14
it
35:14
the
35:15
worst,
35:15
most
35:15
disgusting
35:16
song
35:16
they've
35:16
ever
35:17
heard
35:17
while
35:17
riding
35:18
in
35:18
the
35:18
car.
35:19
In
35:20
the
35:20
vein
35:20
of
35:20
don't
35:20
break
35:21
my
35:21
heart
35:21
is
35:21
don't
35:21
smell
35:22
that
35:22
fart
35:22
like
35:23
that
35:23
kind
35:23
of
35:23
thing.
35:24
See
35:26
you.
35:26
And
35:26
flatulence
35:27
is.
35:28
It
35:28
seems
35:28
like
35:29
that
35:29
is
35:29
a.
35:30
Is
35:30
there
35:30
better
35:30
comedy
35:31
gold?
35:31
Winnie.
35:32
Winnie.
35:33
I'm
35:34
just
35:34
going
35:34
to
35:34
tell
35:34
you,
35:34
never
35:35
there.
35:36
So
35:36
many
35:37
times
35:37
we'd
35:37
be
35:37
in
35:38
the
35:38
studio
35:38
and
35:39
he's
35:39
laughing.
35:39
It's
35:40
a
35:40
lot.
35:41
So
35:42
many
35:42
times
35:42
we'd
35:42
be
35:43
in
35:43
the
35:43
studio
35:43
and
35:44
all
35:44
of
35:44
a
35:44
sudden
35:44
I
35:45
would.
35:45
I'd
35:46
catch
35:46
it
35:47
in
35:48
my
35:48
nostrils
35:48
and
35:49
then
35:50
I'd
35:50
realize
35:50
that
35:51
my
35:51
mouth
35:51
was
35:51
open
35:52
at
35:53
the
35:53
same
35:53
time.
35:53
Because
35:54
you
35:54
hit
35:54
your
35:55
nostril.
35:55
It
35:55
hits
35:56
the
35:56
senses
35:56
and
35:56
it's
35:57
like.
35:57
And
35:57
then
35:57
you,
35:58
you
35:58
breathe
35:58
it
35:58
in
35:59
and
35:59
it's.
36:00
It's
36:00
almost
36:00
solid.
36:04
He's
36:04
laughing.
36:05
He's
36:06
laughing.
36:06
He's
36:07
a
36:07
terrorist.
36:08
There
36:08
had
36:08
maybe
36:09
been
36:09
twice.
36:09
My
36:10
God,
36:10
don't
36:10
wreck
36:10
this
36:11
interview.
36:13
He's
36:13
laughing,
36:14
but
36:15
he's
36:15
a
36:15
terrorist
36:16
is
36:17
what
36:17
he
36:17
is.
36:17
He
36:18
is
36:18
a
36:18
domestic
36:18
terrorist.
36:21
I
36:21
do,
36:21
I
36:21
do
36:22
want
36:22
to
36:22
ask
36:22
you.
36:22
So
36:23
I've
36:24
gone
36:24
through
36:24
your
36:24
blog.
36:25
Your
36:25
blog
36:26
gives
36:26
your
36:27
readers
36:27
like
36:28
a
36:28
pretty
36:28
good
36:28
behind
36:29
the
36:29
scenes
36:29
look
36:29
at
36:29
the
36:30
creative
36:30
process
36:31
and
36:31
experiences
36:31
and
36:31
things
36:32
like
36:32
that.
36:32
As
36:32
an
36:32
independent
36:33
author,
36:34
what
36:34
inspired
36:35
you
36:35
to
36:35
start
36:36
doing
36:36
the
36:37
blog
36:38
as
36:38
an
36:38
addition
36:39
to
36:39
all
36:40
of
36:40
the
36:40
writing?
36:41
Yes.
36:42
So
36:42
it's
36:43
been
36:43
funny
36:43
because
36:44
after
36:46
I
36:46
wrote
36:46
the
36:47
first
36:47
book
36:47
and
36:47
I
36:48
did
36:48
my
36:49
terrible
36:49
publishing,
36:50
I
36:50
was
36:50
like,
36:51
oh,
36:51
yeah,
36:51
I
36:51
just
36:51
need
36:51
to
36:51
publish.
36:52
I'll
36:52
be
36:52
a
36:52
bestseller
36:52
in
36:53
two
36:53
weeks.
36:53
And
36:54
that
36:54
did
36:54
not
36:55
happen.
36:57
We
36:58
want.
36:58
We
36:58
won.
36:58
We
36:58
won
36:59
Best
36:59
podcast.
37:00
And
37:00
we're
37:00
still
37:00
sitting.
37:01
You
37:01
know.
37:03
I
37:03
was
37:03
like,
37:04
why
37:04
am
37:04
I
37:05
not
37:05
a
37:05
millionaire
37:05
yet?
37:06
It's
37:06
been
37:06
two
37:07
days.
37:07
What's
37:08
happening?
37:09
What
37:09
is
37:09
happening?
37:10
But
37:11
after
37:11
that,
37:12
I.
37:12
While
37:13
I
37:13
was
37:13
doing
37:13
research
37:14
on,
37:14
like,
37:14
how
37:14
to
37:14
market
37:15
your
37:15
book
37:16
One
37:16
of
37:16
the
37:16
ideas
37:17
I
37:17
saw
37:17
a
37:17
lot
37:17
was
37:18
like,
37:18
oh,
37:18
you
37:18
can
37:18
write
37:18
about.
37:19
Like,
37:19
you're
37:19
behind
37:20
the
37:20
scenes.
37:21
You
37:21
know
37:21
what
37:21
you're
37:21
doing.
37:22
And
37:22
I
37:22
was
37:22
like,
37:23
oh,
37:23
more
37:23
writing.
37:24
Sign
37:24
me
37:25
up.
37:25
So
37:26
I
37:27
started
37:27
just
37:28
writing.
37:28
It
37:29
was
37:29
really
37:30
beginning.
37:32
Just
37:32
a
37:33
hot
37:33
pod,
37:33
just
37:33
things
37:33
like
37:34
me,
37:34
like,
37:35
what
37:35
am
37:35
I
37:35
doing
37:36
right
37:36
now?
37:36
What
37:36
am
37:36
I
37:36
writing?
37:37
Maybe
37:38
some
37:38
cooking
37:39
blog
37:39
about
37:39
what
37:39
me
37:40
and
37:40
my
37:40
dad
37:40
are
37:40
cooking
37:40
in
37:41
the
37:41
kitchen.
37:41
Like,
37:41
just
37:42
random
37:42
things.
37:43
And
37:44
then
37:45
2020
37:46
happened.
37:47
Yeah.
37:48
And
37:49
literally
37:49
the
37:50
week
37:50
before
37:51
we
37:51
shut
37:51
everything
37:51
down,
37:52
I
37:52
had
37:52
released
37:52
my
37:53
second
37:53
book.
37:53
It
37:53
was
37:54
March
37:54
6,
37:55
and
37:56
I
37:56
was
37:56
like,
37:57
fun.
37:58
So,
37:59
yeah.
38:00
You're
38:00
like,
38:00
well,
38:01
Fauci's
38:01
on
38:01
tv.
38:02
I
38:02
wonder
38:02
what
38:02
he's
38:02
talking
38:03
about.
38:03
Ian
38:03
Sin.
38:04
Yes.
38:05
Really
38:06
had
38:06
my
38:07
book
38:07
launch
38:08
and
38:08
we
38:09
were.
38:09
I
38:09
was
38:10
scheduled
38:10
to
38:10
do
38:10
a
38:10
trip
38:11
in
38:11
New
38:11
York.
38:11
I
38:11
was
38:11
going
38:12
to
38:12
be
38:12
new
38:12
artists.
38:13
I
38:13
was
38:13
so
38:13
excited.
38:14
And.
38:16
And
38:17
then
38:17
I
38:18
was
38:18
home
38:19
forever.
38:20
And
38:21
I.
38:21
Yeah.
38:22
And
38:23
I,
38:24
you
38:24
know,
38:24
I
38:24
didn't
38:25
really
38:25
have
38:25
much
38:25
else
38:26
to
38:26
do.
38:26
I
38:27
was
38:28
steadily
38:28
trying
38:29
to
38:29
connect
38:29
with
38:30
more
38:30
authors,
38:31
not
38:32
just
38:32
readers,
38:32
but,
38:33
like,
38:33
asking
38:33
them,
38:34
like,
38:34
hey,
38:34
how
38:35
did
38:35
you
38:35
become
38:35
a
38:36
bestseller?
38:36
Or
38:37
like,
38:37
what
38:37
are
38:37
you
38:37
doing
38:38
on
38:38
your
38:38
marketing
38:39
strategies?
38:39
Or
38:39
how
38:40
are
38:40
you
38:40
figuring
38:40
out
38:41
writing,
38:41
like,
38:41
multiple
38:42
series
38:42
and
38:43
things
38:43
like
38:43
that.
38:43
And
38:44
as
38:45
I
38:45
was
38:45
doing
38:45
that,
38:46
I
38:46
kept
38:46
seeing
38:46
a
38:46
lot
38:47
of
38:47
other
38:48
authors
38:49
who
38:49
are
38:49
also
38:50
new
38:50
writers,
38:51
were
38:52
struggling
38:52
with
38:52
getting
38:53
promotions
38:53
or
38:54
figuring
38:54
out
38:54
what
38:54
to
38:55
do
38:55
or
38:55
what
38:55
steps.
38:55
And
38:56
I
38:56
was
38:56
like,
38:56
well,
38:57
I
38:57
already
38:57
have
38:57
a
38:57
blog.
38:58
I
38:58
might
38:58
as
38:58
well
38:58
just
38:59
keep
38:59
writing
38:59
about
39:00
what
39:00
to
39:01
do
39:01
or
39:01
how
39:01
to
39:01
find
39:02
things
39:02
or
39:03
how
39:03
I
39:03
can
39:03
help
39:04
and
39:05
how
39:06
I
39:06
can
39:06
help
39:06
market
39:07
to
39:07
other
39:07
authors
39:08
and
39:08
help
39:08
them
39:09
with
39:09
promotions
39:09
and
39:10
what
39:10
works
39:10
for
39:10
me
39:10
or
39:11
what
39:11
doesn't
39:11
work
39:11
or
39:12
what
39:12
works
39:12
for
39:12
other
39:13
authors.
39:14
And
39:14
I,
39:15
you
39:15
know,
39:16
just.
39:16
I
39:16
kept
39:17
going
39:17
and
39:17
now
39:18
I
39:18
have
39:18
a
39:19
full
39:19
vlog
39:20
of,
39:20
you
39:21
know,
39:21
so
39:21
many
39:22
different
39:23
topics
39:24
on
39:24
publishing
39:25
and
39:26
editing
39:27
and
39:28
editing
39:29
and.
39:32
And
39:33
just
39:33
the
39:33
indie
39:34
publication
39:35
world.
39:36
And,
39:36
you
39:36
know,
39:37
I've
39:37
been
39:37
able
39:37
to
39:37
just
39:38
thankfully
39:38
help
39:39
and
39:39
connect
39:39
so
39:40
many
39:40
other
39:40
writers
39:41
that
39:42
I
39:42
was
39:42
like,
39:42
that
39:42
was
39:42
the
39:43
goal.
39:43
And
39:43
I'm
39:43
so
39:43
happy
39:43
I'm
39:44
able
39:44
to
39:44
continuously
39:45
achieve
39:46
that
39:46
as,
39:47
you
39:47
know,
39:47
the
39:47
years
39:48
go
39:48
on.
39:49
Yeah.
39:50
Let
39:50
me.
39:51
Writing,
39:52
I
39:53
mean,
39:53
being
39:53
a
39:53
writer,
39:54
you're
39:54
facing
39:54
challenges
39:55
already,
39:55
but.
39:56
But
39:56
I
39:56
think.
39:57
I
39:57
think
39:57
one
39:57
of
39:57
the
39:57
things
39:58
that
39:58
I
39:58
always
39:58
come
39:59
down
39:59
to,
39:59
and
39:59
I've
40:00
done
40:00
some
40:00
audio.
40:01
Some
40:02
audiobook
40:02
recordings,
40:04
I
40:04
primarily
40:05
try
40:05
to
40:05
stick
40:05
to
40:06
the
40:06
ones
40:06
that
40:06
don't
40:06
have
40:07
characters,
40:07
where
40:08
the
40:08
author
40:08
wants
40:09
multiple
40:09
character
40:10
voices
40:11
for
40:11
them.
40:12
But
40:13
that
40:14
difficulty
40:15
for
40:15
me,
40:16
I
40:17
don't
40:17
even
40:17
think
40:17
it
40:17
comes
40:18
close
40:18
to
40:18
the
40:19
complexities
40:20
of
40:20
the
40:21
characters
40:22
because
40:22
you
40:23
have
40:23
to
40:23
you
40:23
have
40:23
to
40:24
remember
40:24
all
40:24
the
40:24
traits.
40:25
What
40:25
goes
40:25
into
40:25
that
40:26
process
40:26
for
40:26
you?
40:27
Oh,
40:28
boy,
40:28
oh,
40:28
boy.
40:28
I
40:28
get
40:29
to
40:29
talk
40:29
about
40:29
my
40:29
PowerPoints.
40:30
So
40:33
I
40:33
am
40:34
very
40:34
much
40:34
a
40:35
planner
40:36
and
40:36
an
40:37
organizer.
40:38
So
40:38
much
40:38
so
40:39
every
40:39
book
40:39
I
40:40
have
40:40
and
40:41
the
40:41
overarching
40:42
God
40:43
Scion
40:43
series
40:44
has
40:44
a
40:45
PowerPoint.
40:46
Each
40:46
PowerPoint
40:47
is
40:48
minimum
40:48
100
40:49
slides.
40:50
Good.
40:51
Yeah,
40:52
I'm
40:52
a
40:53
little
40:53
crazy,
40:54
but
40:55
I
40:55
like
40:56
to
40:56
give.
40:56
I
40:57
just.
40:57
I
40:58
like
40:58
to
40:59
stay
40:59
ready
41:00
and
41:00
be
41:00
ready
41:01
because
41:01
then
41:01
you
41:02
don't
41:02
got
41:02
to
41:02
get
41:02
ready.
41:03
So
41:04
I
41:04
write
41:04
about.
41:04
Literally,
41:05
I
41:05
have
41:06
every
41:06
character
41:06
that's
41:06
going
41:07
to
41:07
be
41:07
in
41:07
the
41:07
book.
41:07
I
41:08
have
41:08
characters
41:08
that
41:09
really
41:09
don't
41:10
even
41:10
appear
41:11
into
41:12
the
41:12
book
41:12
series
41:13
until,
41:13
like,
41:13
the
41:14
fifth
41:14
book.
41:15
And
41:15
I
41:15
have,
41:16
you
41:16
know,
41:16
who
41:16
they
41:17
married,
41:17
who
41:17
they
41:18
diverse,
41:18
how
41:18
many
41:18
kids,
41:19
how
41:19
many
41:19
dogs,
41:19
how
41:20
many
41:20
cats,
41:20
are
41:20
they
41:20
allergic
41:21
to
41:21
peanuts?
41:22
Or,
41:22
like,
41:22
I
41:22
have
41:22
all
41:23
of
41:23
this
41:23
extra
41:24
information
41:25
just
41:26
for
41:26
my
41:27
own
41:27
sanity,
41:28
just
41:29
in
41:29
case.
41:29
I'm
41:29
like,
41:29
well,
41:30
I
41:30
can
41:30
add
41:30
this
41:30
as
41:31
a
41:31
fun
41:31
little
41:31
tidbit
41:31
or
41:32
I
41:32
can
41:32
add
41:32
this
41:32
to
41:33
build
41:33
characters.
41:33
So
41:35
you'll
41:35
need
41:35
it
41:35
for
41:35
the
41:35
fanboys.
41:37
Yes.
41:38
And
41:39
again,
41:39
when,
41:39
you
41:39
know,
41:40
readers
41:40
ask
41:40
me
41:40
questions,
41:41
I'm
41:41
like,
41:41
oh,
41:41
fun
41:42
fact.
41:42
I
41:42
actually
41:43
wrote
41:43
about
41:43
that
41:43
in
41:44
a
41:44
PowerPoint.
41:45
That's
41:45
so
41:45
smart.
41:46
Yes,
41:47
yes.
41:48
And
41:48
it
41:48
helps
41:48
a
41:48
lot
41:49
because
41:50
I,
41:50
you
41:51
know,
41:51
it
41:51
helps,
41:52
especially
41:52
with
41:53
writing
41:53
a
41:53
series,
41:54
consistency
41:55
and
41:55
plot
41:55
holes,
41:56
because
41:56
I
41:56
can
41:56
go
41:56
back
41:57
and
41:57
read
41:57
and
41:58
say,
41:58
okay,
41:58
well,
41:59
this
41:59
character
42:00
doesn't
42:00
like
42:00
doing
42:01
this
42:01
thing,
42:01
so
42:02
this
42:02
makes
42:02
no
42:02
sense.
42:03
Or
42:03
this
42:03
character
42:04
wouldn't
42:04
do
42:04
this.
42:05
Or,
42:05
you
42:05
know,
42:06
they
42:06
speak
42:06
this
42:07
language,
42:07
so
42:07
this
42:07
is
42:08
their
42:08
tonal
42:09
inflections.
42:10
And
42:10
I
42:10
can
42:10
add
42:10
that
42:11
into
42:11
the
42:11
story
42:12
and
42:13
have
42:13
character
42:14
be
42:14
built
42:14
through
42:14
that,
42:15
too.
42:15
So,
42:16
you
42:16
know,
42:16
creating
42:17
those,
42:17
I
42:18
call
42:18
them
42:18
like
42:19
mini
42:19
character
42:19
guides
42:20
or
42:21
book
42:21
guides.
42:22
I.
42:22
Well,
42:23
not
42:23
many.
42:23
They're
42:24
pretty
42:24
big.
42:24
But
42:25
book
42:26
guides,
42:26
I
42:26
make
42:27
for
42:27
each
42:28
story,
42:28
and
42:29
I
42:29
add
42:30
to
42:30
them
42:30
as
42:31
I'm
42:31
writing
42:32
as
42:32
well.
42:32
So,
42:33
you
42:34
know,
42:35
I
42:35
can,
42:35
like,
42:35
now
42:36
writing
42:36
book
42:36
six,
42:37
I
42:37
can
42:37
look
42:37
back
42:38
on,
42:38
you
42:39
know,
42:39
book
42:40
one's
42:40
book
42:41
guide
42:41
and
42:41
say,
42:42
oh,
42:42
I
42:42
can
42:42
pick,
42:42
like,
42:43
this
42:43
thing
42:43
from
42:44
this
42:44
character
42:44
and
42:45
add
42:45
it
42:45
now
42:46
so
42:46
it's
42:46
consistent.
42:47
And,
42:47
you
42:48
know,
42:48
some
42:48
people
42:48
who
42:48
are
42:48
reading
42:49
through
42:49
can
42:49
be
42:49
like,
42:50
oh,
42:50
she
42:51
just
42:51
mentioned
42:51
that.
42:52
She
42:52
mentioned
42:52
that
42:52
three
42:52
books
42:53
ago,
42:53
because
42:55
that's
42:55
how
42:55
I
42:56
perceive
42:56
it,
42:57
that,
42:57
you
42:57
know,
42:57
there
42:57
are
42:57
people
42:58
who
42:58
are
42:58
going
42:58
to
42:58
just
42:59
speed
43:00
run
43:00
through
43:00
each
43:01
book
43:01
as
43:01
they
43:02
have
43:02
them.
43:02
And,
43:03
you
43:04
know,
43:04
because
43:04
I
43:04
know
43:05
I
43:05
do
43:05
that.
43:05
So
43:06
I
43:06
think,
43:06
okay,
43:08
if
43:08
I'm
43:08
reading
43:08
book
43:09
one
43:10
and
43:10
now
43:10
I'm
43:10
on
43:10
book
43:11
three,
43:11
and
43:11
I
43:11
see
43:11
an
43:11
inconsistency,
43:13
like,
43:13
I'm
43:13
gonna
43:13
know
43:14
that
43:14
I'm
43:14
gonna
43:14
see
43:14
like,
43:14
hey,
43:15
Puho.
43:16
Right
43:17
there,
43:17
right
43:17
there.
43:18
You
43:18
missed
43:18
it.
43:19
See,
43:19
you
43:19
said
43:19
this
43:20
person
43:20
had
43:20
ginger
43:21
hair
43:21
and
43:21
now
43:21
they
43:21
got
43:22
blonde
43:22
hair.
43:22
What
43:23
happened?
43:23
So
43:26
I'm
43:26
always
43:26
that
43:26
person
43:27
who
43:27
notices
43:28
in
43:28
books,
43:29
so
43:29
I
43:29
always
43:29
like
43:29
to
43:30
make
43:30
sure
43:30
I
43:30
can
43:31
as
43:31
much
43:31
as
43:31
I
43:32
can,
43:33
you
43:33
know,
43:33
keep
43:33
it
43:34
consistent
43:34
and,
43:35
you
43:35
know,
43:35
keep
43:36
people
43:36
in
43:36
the
43:36
fantasy.
43:37
Because
43:37
I
43:37
think
43:37
when,
43:38
you
43:38
know,
43:38
the.
43:39
It's
43:39
the
43:39
little
43:39
things
43:40
that
43:40
just
43:40
kind
43:40
of
43:40
throws
43:41
it
43:41
for
43:41
your
43:41
loop.
43:41
You're
43:41
like,
43:42
oh,
43:43
what
43:43
happened?
43:44
How
43:45
did
43:45
we
43:45
get
43:45
here?
43:45
So
43:46
that's
43:46
usually
43:47
how
43:47
I.
43:48
Again,
43:48
I
43:48
just
43:49
over
43:49
organize
43:51
and
43:51
detail
43:52
things
43:52
that,
43:52
you
43:53
know,
43:53
help
43:53
me
43:53
really
43:53
build
43:54
out
43:54
the
43:54
characters.
43:55
Yeah,
43:55
but
43:55
I
43:56
feel
43:56
like
43:56
you
43:56
have
43:56
to
43:56
be,
43:57
because.
43:58
And
43:58
my
43:59
next
43:59
question
43:59
is,
44:00
what
44:00
sort
44:00
of
44:01
critiques
44:01
do
44:01
you
44:02
get
44:02
when
44:02
it.
44:02
When
44:02
it
44:03
comes
44:03
to
44:03
your
44:03
books?
44:04
Like,
44:04
do
44:04
you
44:04
have.
44:05
Do
44:05
you
44:05
have
44:06
critics
44:06
that
44:06
are
44:06
that.
44:07
That.
44:07
That
44:07
are
44:08
down
44:08
to
44:08
that
44:08
minute
44:09
detail?
44:11
Yeah,
44:11
I
44:12
haven't.
44:13
I
44:13
think
44:13
really
44:14
only
44:15
again,
44:15
when
44:15
I
44:16
released
44:16
the
44:16
first
44:16
book
44:17
is
44:17
when
44:17
I
44:17
had
44:17
the
44:17
most
44:18
critique.
44:18
And
44:21
again,
44:21
I.
44:21
I
44:22
really
44:22
didn't
44:22
know
44:22
what
44:22
I
44:22
was
44:23
doing,
44:23
so
44:23
I
44:23
was
44:23
just
44:24
like,
44:24
again,
44:24
here's
44:25
the
44:25
book.
44:26
I'm
44:26
done.
44:26
And
44:27
people
44:27
are
44:27
like,
44:28
come
44:28
back,
44:28
come
44:28
back,
44:28
dearie.
44:29
That's.
44:30
That's
44:30
not
44:30
how
44:30
that
44:30
works.
44:32
But
44:33
I
44:33
think
44:33
now
44:34
most
44:34
of
44:34
the
44:34
time,
44:34
the
44:35
critiques
44:35
I
44:35
might
44:36
get
44:36
is
44:36
that,
44:36
you
44:37
know,
44:37
people
44:37
might
44:37
read
44:37
the
44:37
books
44:38
out
44:38
of
44:38
order.
44:39
But
44:41
outside
44:41
of
44:41
that,
44:42
I
44:42
think
44:43
the
44:43
biggest
44:43
thing
44:43
is
44:44
always
44:44
characters
44:45
and
44:46
people
44:46
who.
44:47
Mainly
44:48
who
44:48
people
44:48
hate.
44:49
And
44:49
there's
44:50
mainly
44:51
two
44:51
particular
44:52
characters
44:53
that
44:53
people
44:54
do
44:54
not
44:54
like.
44:54
And
44:54
I'm
44:55
like,
44:55
yes,
44:55
because
44:55
I
44:56
love
44:56
writing
44:56
about
44:56
it.
44:57
So
44:59
I
44:59
don't
44:59
really
44:59
get
45:00
too
45:00
many
45:01
outwardly
45:02
critiques
45:03
unless
45:03
it's
45:04
maybe
45:04
someone
45:05
who
45:05
was
45:06
like,
45:06
oh,
45:06
I
45:07
was
45:07
not
45:07
expecting
45:08
to
45:09
be
45:09
hit
45:09
with
45:09
all
45:09
this
45:09
trauma.
45:10
And
45:10
I'm
45:10
like,
45:10
really?
45:11
You
45:11
didn't
45:11
read
45:11
the
45:12
first
45:12
book
45:12
and
45:13
the
45:13
blurb
45:13
where
45:14
I
45:14
talk
45:14
about
45:14
alcoholism
45:15
and
45:15
drug
45:16
abuse?
45:16
And
45:17
I
45:17
was
45:17
like,
45:18
I
45:18
thought
45:18
that
45:18
was
45:18
a
45:18
little,
45:19
you
45:19
know,
45:20
I
45:20
thought
45:21
I
45:21
made
45:21
a
45:21
little
45:21
clear
45:22
that
45:22
this
45:23
is
45:23
going
45:23
to
45:23
be
45:23
a
45:23
doozy.
45:24
But,
45:25
yeah,
45:25
I
45:26
call
45:26
them
45:26
trolls.
45:28
They're
45:29
jackals
45:29
or
45:29
trolls
45:30
is
45:31
what
45:31
they
45:31
are.
45:32
Have
45:33
you
45:33
had
45:33
any
45:33
of
45:33
your
45:34
books
45:35
read
45:35
for,
45:36
like,
45:36
Audible
45:36
or
45:36
anything
45:37
like
45:37
that?
45:39
No,
45:39
not
45:40
yet.
45:42
It
45:42
was
45:43
something
45:43
I.
45:44
Sorry,
45:46
I
45:47
haven't.
45:48
Like,
45:49
I
45:49
first
45:50
needed
45:50
to
45:50
find
45:51
people
45:51
to
45:51
do
45:51
it
45:53
and
45:53
then.
45:56
And
45:56
then
45:56
actually
45:57
get
45:57
it
45:57
done.
45:57
But
45:58
it's.
45:58
It's
45:59
always.
45:59
It
45:59
was.
46:00
It
46:00
was
46:00
something.
46:00
I
46:01
was
46:01
always
46:01
going
46:02
like,
46:02
okay,
46:02
once
46:03
this
46:03
happens,
46:03
then
46:04
I
46:04
can
46:04
do
46:04
it.
46:04
And
46:04
then
46:05
I
46:06
started
46:06
a
46:06
publishing
46:06
company,
46:07
and
46:07
I
46:07
was
46:07
like,
46:07
oh,
46:08
well,
46:10
we.
46:10
Can
46:11
do
46:11
a
46:11
tryout
46:11
right
46:12
now.
46:12
That's
46:13
right.
46:14
All
46:14
right,
46:14
all
46:14
right.
46:14
Give
46:15
me.
46:15
Give
46:15
me
46:15
a
46:15
character.
46:16
Give
46:16
me
46:16
some
46:16
of
46:17
his
46:17
traits.
46:18
Okay.
46:18
You
46:19
know,
46:19
give
46:19
me.
46:19
Give
46:19
me
46:20
some
46:20
details.
46:21
Okay.
46:22
Okay.
46:22
I'll
46:22
give
46:22
you
46:23
our.
46:23
One
46:23
of
46:23
our
46:23
main
46:24
characters.
46:24
I'll
46:24
give
46:24
you
46:24
Prince
46:25
Roderick
46:26
again.
46:26
He's
46:26
our
46:27
sassy
46:27
boy.
46:28
He's
46:29
early
46:29
20s.
46:31
He
46:31
has
46:31
some
46:31
red
46:32
hair.
46:33
He
46:33
is
46:33
a
46:34
prince.
46:34
But
46:34
he
46:34
is
46:35
again,
46:36
he
46:36
has
46:36
a
46:37
snappy
46:37
comeback
46:38
for
46:38
everything.
46:42
You're
46:42
like,
46:42
how's
46:43
the
46:43
weather?
46:43
He's
46:43
like,
46:43
I
46:44
don't
46:44
know.
46:44
You're
46:44
here
46:44
too.
46:45
Why
46:45
are
46:45
you
46:45
asking
46:46
me?
46:46
He's
46:46
one
46:46
of
46:47
those.
46:48
That
46:49
sounds
46:49
like
46:49
one
46:49
of
46:49
my
46:49
lines.
46:51
And
46:52
not
46:52
to
46:52
deviate,
46:52
but
46:53
I'll
46:53
just
46:53
say.
46:53
When
46:53
I
46:54
worked
46:54
in
46:54
radio,
46:55
one
46:55
of
46:55
the
46:56
things
46:56
that
46:56
I
46:56
hated
46:57
doing
46:57
was.
46:57
Was
46:57
giving
46:58
weather
46:58
forecasts
46:59
where
46:59
I'd
46:59
be
46:59
like,
46:59
it's
46:59
68
47:00
degrees,
47:00
clear
47:01
skies,
47:01
looking
47:01
at
47:02
a
47:02
low
47:03
tonight
47:03
of
47:03
52.
47:04
Some
47:04
rain
47:04
coming
47:04
in
47:05
tomorrow.
47:06
And
47:06
then
47:06
I.
47:07
No
47:07
doubt
47:07
I
47:08
would
47:08
have
47:08
somebody
47:08
get
47:09
on
47:09
the
47:09
phone,
47:09
or
47:10
I'd
47:10
answer
47:10
the
47:10
phone,
47:10
and
47:10
they
47:11
say,
47:11
it's
47:11
raining
47:11
in
47:12
my
47:12
house.
47:12
And
47:12
it's
47:12
like,
47:13
great,
47:15
then
47:15
just
47:15
go
47:16
with
47:16
that.
47:16
That's
47:16
your
47:17
forecast.
47:17
You.
47:18
You're
47:18
outside.
47:18
You
47:19
know
47:19
what
47:19
it's
47:19
doing.
47:19
Anyway.
47:20
Okay,
47:20
sorry.
47:20
Continue,
47:21
Zach.
47:22
You
47:22
are
47:23
Prince
47:24
Roderick.
47:25
Roderick.
47:26
You're
47:27
standing
47:27
in
47:27
the
47:28
same
47:28
weather.
47:28
I
47:28
am.
47:31
Does
47:32
it
47:32
feel
47:32
like
47:32
rain?
47:34
Is
47:35
the
47:35
dawn
47:35
sun
47:35
shining
47:36
on
47:36
both
47:36
of
47:36
our
47:36
skins?
47:39
That's
47:39
good.
47:40
That
47:41
is
47:41
good.
47:42
Yes.
47:43
I
47:43
like
47:43
that.
47:43
That
47:43
was
47:44
great.
47:44
Listen,
47:44
I
47:45
can
47:45
tweak
47:45
it.
47:45
Listen,
47:45
I
47:45
can
47:46
take
47:46
notes.
47:47
I'm
47:47
a
47:47
new.
47:47
Take
47:48
notes.
47:48
Maybe
47:48
that's
47:49
what
47:49
we
47:49
need
47:49
to
47:49
do,
47:49
Zach.
47:50
And
47:50
you
47:50
and
47:50
I
47:50
should
47:51
team
47:51
up
47:51
on
47:51
doing
47:52
some
47:52
of
47:52
the
47:53
audiobooks.
47:53
I'll
47:54
just
47:54
do
47:54
an
47:54
ogre,
47:55
too.
47:55
Just
47:55
read
47:55
the
47:56
new.
47:56
The
47:56
narration,
47:57
and
47:57
then
47:57
you'll
47:57
do
47:58
the
47:58
characters.
47:59
Yeah,
47:59
dude,
47:59
we
47:59
can
48:00
totally
48:00
do
48:00
that.
48:01
I
48:01
think
48:02
Wendy's
48:02
book
48:02
is
48:03
the
48:03
first
48:03
book.
48:04
That's
48:04
right.
48:05
Yay.
48:08
We
48:08
only
48:08
start.
48:08
We
48:09
only
48:09
start
48:09
asking
48:09
for
48:10
money
48:10
if
48:10
we
48:10
come
48:11
back.
48:11
If
48:11
we
48:11
have
48:11
to
48:11
come
48:12
back.
48:12
Okay.
48:13
Yeah.
48:13
I
48:14
don't
48:14
know
48:14
how
48:14
many
48:14
more
48:14
real
48:15
estate
48:15
books
48:15
I
48:15
can
48:15
read.
48:17
Yeah,
48:18
I
48:18
read
48:18
on.
48:18
I
48:18
can
48:19
read
48:19
math.
48:22
I
48:22
made
48:22
that
48:22
very
48:23
clear.
48:23
I
48:23
was
48:23
like,
48:23
we
48:24
will
48:24
not
48:24
publish.
48:26
It's
48:26
always
48:27
the
48:27
things
48:27
you
48:27
say
48:27
no
48:28
to.
48:28
And
48:28
I
48:28
had,
48:28
like,
48:28
maybe
48:29
four
48:29
people
48:30
who
48:30
are
48:30
chefs.
48:30
They're
48:31
like,
48:31
hey,
48:31
I
48:31
have
48:31
a
48:32
cookbook.
48:32
I
48:32
said,
48:32
awesome.
48:34
I'm
48:34
not
48:35
doing
48:35
that.
48:37
This
48:38
is
48:38
not
48:38
for
48:38
cooking,
48:39
darling.
48:41
But
48:41
I
48:41
will
48:42
definitely
48:42
buy
48:42
and
48:43
make
48:43
your
48:43
food.
48:43
But
48:44
I'm
48:44
not
48:44
publishing
48:45
it.
48:47
So
48:48
that's.
48:48
So
48:48
that's.
48:49
That's
48:49
another
48:49
part
48:49
of
48:49
this.
48:50
So
48:50
you
48:50
have
48:50
WINS
48:51
Books,
48:51
which
48:52
is
48:52
your.
48:52
Your.
48:53
The
48:53
books
48:53
you've
48:53
written.
48:54
You
48:55
have
48:55
Wins
48:55
Books
48:55
Publishing.
48:56
You
48:56
have
48:57
the
48:57
Writing
48:57
Faye
48:58
Literary
48:58
Magazine,
49:00
PotMWBP
49:03
Poetry
49:04
Contest,
49:06
Wins
49:07
Literary
49:07
Lounge,
49:08
and
49:08
then
49:09
WM
49:11
Comics,
49:11
Comic,
49:12
Graphic
49:12
novel
49:13
imprint.
49:14
So,
49:15
you
49:15
know,
49:16
how
49:17
do
49:17
you
49:18
have
49:18
time
49:18
to
49:18
sit
49:18
down
49:19
with
49:19
us
49:19
for
49:19
a
49:19
podcast?
49:22
She's
49:22
like,
49:22
I'm
49:22
writing
49:23
right
49:23
now.
49:24
Yep.
49:25
I.
49:25
I'm
49:25
like
49:26
over
49:26
here
49:26
on,
49:26
like,
49:27
my
49:27
right
49:27
hand
49:27
is
49:28
just
49:28
like.
49:28
And
49:28
then
49:29
chapter
49:30
scene.
49:31
Yep,
49:32
yep.
49:32
You
49:32
got
49:32
a
49:32
whole
49:32
new
49:33
book
49:33
going
49:33
about
49:33
two
49:33
chuckleheads
49:34
who
49:34
don't
49:34
know
49:34
what
49:35
you're
49:35
talking
49:35
about.
49:35
Yeah.
49:36
And
49:36
I'm
49:36
gonna
49:36
know
49:36
that
49:37
I'm
49:37
in
49:37
there
49:37
when
49:37
I
49:38
read
49:38
the
49:39
decrepit
49:40
old.
49:41
The
49:42
bearded.
49:45
Merritt
49:45
and
49:45
I
49:45
watch
49:46
Dumb
49:46
and
49:46
Dumber
49:46
and
49:46
he
49:46
goes,
49:47
wait
49:47
a
49:47
minute.
49:47
I'm
49:47
like,
49:48
it's
49:48
not
49:48
us.
49:48
It's
49:49
not
49:49
us.
49:49
That's
49:50
right.
49:51
Merit
49:52
and
49:52
Mac.
49:53
That's.
49:57
So
49:58
how
49:58
many.
49:59
How
49:59
many
49:59
authors
49:59
do
50:00
you
50:00
currently
50:00
have
50:01
under
50:01
wins
50:01
book
50:02
publishing?
50:03
So
50:03
currently
50:04
we
50:05
have
50:06
10
50:06
authors,
50:07
if
50:07
I'm
50:07
not
50:08
mistake
50:08
it.
50:08
Yes.
50:09
So
50:09
10
50:10
writers.
50:11
And
50:13
one
50:13
of
50:13
them
50:14
is
50:14
one
50:14
of
50:15
our
50:15
comic
50:16
book
50:16
artists,
50:16
which
50:16
we'll
50:17
be
50:17
announcing
50:18
later
50:19
this
50:19
month
50:19
because
50:19
I'm
50:20
excited
50:20
about.
50:21
That's
50:21
exciting.
50:22
Yeah.
50:23
Yes.
50:24
I
50:24
always
50:25
joke.
50:25
I
50:25
was
50:25
like,
50:25
I
50:25
don't
50:25
know
50:26
how
50:26
we
50:26
did
50:26
this
50:27
because
50:27
we
50:28
celebrate
50:28
our
50:28
one
50:29
year
50:29
anniversary
50:29
in
50:30
April
50:30
of
50:30
next
50:30
year.
50:31
Congratulations.
50:32
One
50:32
year.
50:32
And
50:33
you
50:33
already
50:33
have
50:33
this
50:33
going
50:34
on.
50:34
It's.
50:35
That's
50:35
awesome.
50:35
Yeah.
50:36
Yeah.
50:36
I
50:37
don't.
50:37
I
50:37
don't
50:37
know
50:37
what
50:37
I've
50:37
done,
50:38
bro.
50:39
What
50:39
have
50:40
you
50:40
done?
50:40
What
50:40
are
50:40
you
50:40
into
50:41
now?
50:41
Like,
50:41
yeah.
50:42
Yes.
50:43
I
50:43
was.
50:43
I
50:43
was
50:43
literally
50:44
talking
50:44
to
50:44
one
50:44
of
50:45
our.
50:45
Because
50:45
we.
50:46
I
50:46
do
50:46
meet
50:47
meetings
50:47
and
50:48
check
50:48
ins
50:48
with
50:48
all
50:48
my
50:48
authors.
50:49
So
50:49
I
50:50
was
50:50
talking
50:50
to
50:50
her.
50:50
I
50:50
was
50:50
like,
50:50
yeah,
50:51
we're
50:51
not
50:51
doing
50:51
too
50:52
much,
50:52
April,
50:52
because
50:52
that's,
50:53
you
50:53
know,
50:53
our
50:53
one
50:53
year
50:54
anniversary.
50:54
She's
50:54
like,
50:55
one
50:55
year?
50:56
I
50:56
was
50:56
like,
50:56
yeah,
50:56
girl,
50:57
it's
50:57
been
50:59
a
50:59
year
50:59
yet
50:59
she's
50:59
like,
51:00
dude,
51:02
it's.
51:02
Been
51:02
10
51:03
years
51:03
where
51:03
I'm
51:03
standing.
51:04
Yeah.
51:05
Yes.
51:06
I've
51:06
aged
51:06
like
51:06
a
51:07
president.
51:08
Yeah.
51:09
I.
51:10
I
51:10
hope.
51:10
I
51:10
hope
51:10
I
51:10
age
51:11
like
51:11
a
51:11
first
51:12
lady.
51:12
That's.
51:12
There
51:13
you
51:13
go.
51:14
There
51:15
you
51:15
go.
51:15
Barrett's
51:16
22.
51:17
Look
51:17
at
51:17
him.
51:17
Yeah,
51:18
this
51:18
is.
51:19
This
51:19
is.
51:19
This
51:20
is.
51:22
I
51:23
was
51:23
gonna
51:23
say
51:23
something
51:23
really
51:24
bad
51:24
and
51:24
probably
51:24
alienate
51:25
half
51:25
our
51:25
audience.
51:30
So.
51:30
See,
51:31
now
51:31
I.
51:32
Not.
51:33
This
51:33
is
51:34
idiot.
51:34
But
51:34
I
51:35
do
51:35
remember
51:35
there
51:35
was
51:36
a
51:36
few
51:36
guys
51:37
in
51:37
high
51:37
school
51:37
who
51:38
were
51:38
balding
51:38
and
51:38
I
51:38
was
51:39
like,
51:39
baby,
51:40
you're
51:40
16.
51:42
Why
51:42
is
51:42
this.
51:43
Yeah,
51:43
I
51:43
was
51:43
like,
51:44
I
51:44
thought
51:44
they
51:44
were
51:44
joking
51:45
when
51:45
they
51:45
Said
51:45
y'all,
51:46
we
51:46
had.
51:47
We
51:47
had
51:47
a
51:47
dude
51:47
with
51:47
full
51:48
gray
51:48
hair
51:48
when
51:48
I
51:48
was
51:48
in
51:49
high
51:49
school,
51:49
and
51:49
I
51:49
was
51:49
just
51:49
like,
51:50
yo.
51:51
My
51:52
parents.
51:52
My
51:53
parents
51:53
didn't
51:53
gray
51:54
until
51:54
their
51:55
60s.
51:55
And
51:55
I'm
51:56
like,
51:56
in
51:56
my.
51:57
In
51:57
my
51:57
40s.
51:58
And
51:58
it's,
51:58
it's.
51:59
It's
51:59
just.
51:59
It's.
52:00
It's
52:00
all.
52:00
It's
52:01
all
52:01
happening.
52:02
My
52:02
dad
52:02
passed
52:03
away
52:03
when
52:03
he
52:03
was
52:03
54,
52:04
but
52:04
he
52:04
had
52:04
a
52:05
full
52:05
gray
52:06
beard.
52:06
Oh,
52:07
yeah.
52:09
So
52:09
I
52:10
started
52:10
giving
52:10
my
52:10
dad
52:11
his
52:11
grades
52:11
at
52:11
30.
52:12
You're
52:12
welcome.
52:12
So
52:13
I'm
52:13
gonna.
52:14
I'm
52:14
gonna.
52:15
Were
52:15
you
52:15
the
52:15
root
52:16
cause?
52:16
I
52:16
got
52:17
some.
52:17
I
52:17
got
52:17
some.
52:20
So
52:20
I'm
52:20
gonna.
52:21
I'm
52:21
gonna
52:21
throw
52:21
this
52:21
at
52:21
you
52:22
and,
52:22
and
52:22
you
52:23
tell
52:23
me
52:23
if
52:23
you
52:23
think
52:24
this
52:24
is
52:24
a
52:24
good
52:24
idea.
52:25
And
52:26
I
52:26
think
52:27
Zach
52:28
and
52:28
I
52:28
could
52:28
write
52:29
greeting
52:29
cards
52:31
and,
52:31
or,
52:32
you
52:32
know,
52:32
and
52:32
then.
52:33
And
52:33
then
52:33
we
52:34
get
52:34
them
52:34
illustrated.
52:35
Could.
52:36
Could
52:36
there
52:36
be
52:37
a
52:37
potential
52:37
for
52:38
wins,
52:39
greeting
52:39
cards
52:40
in
52:40
there?
52:41
Yes.
52:41
Listen,
52:42
I.
52:42
Anything
52:43
literary
52:43
or
52:44
stationary,
52:44
I'm.
52:45
That's
52:45
the
52:46
only.
52:46
Like,
52:46
I
52:46
will
52:47
say
52:47
no
52:47
to
52:47
certain
52:48
things
52:48
for
52:48
certain
52:48
things.
52:48
I'm
52:48
like,
52:49
books,
52:50
paper,
52:51
pens.
52:52
Sign
52:52
me
52:52
up.
52:53
Sign
52:53
me
52:53
up.
52:54
I
52:54
think.
52:55
And
52:55
I
52:55
can
52:55
draw.
52:56
Yeah.
52:56
So
52:56
I
52:56
can
52:56
just
52:57
draw
52:57
them
52:57
for
52:57
you.
52:58
Yeah.
52:59
These
52:59
are.
52:59
I'm
53:00
telling
53:00
you,
53:00
we
53:00
could.
53:01
We
53:01
could
53:01
come
53:01
up
53:01
with
53:01
some
53:02
seriously
53:03
funny,
53:04
you
53:04
know,
53:05
depressing
53:06
greeting
53:06
cards.
53:07
Oh,
53:08
don't.
53:08
Barrett
53:08
will
53:09
make
53:09
them
53:09
depressing.
53:09
And
53:10
then
53:10
I'll
53:10
start
53:10
erasing
53:11
a
53:11
lot
53:11
and
53:11
be
53:11
like,
53:12
what
53:12
rhymes.
53:13
This
53:13
is.
53:14
So
53:14
most
53:15
of
53:15
the
53:15
time,
53:15
greeting
53:15
cards
53:16
are
53:16
just
53:16
a
53:16
one
53:16
line
53:16
joke.
53:17
You
53:17
know,
53:18
those
53:18
are.
53:18
Put
53:18
it
53:18
this
53:18
way.
53:19
Barrett
53:19
tried
53:19
telling
53:20
a
53:20
joke,
53:20
and
53:20
it
53:20
was
53:20
about
53:20
someone's
53:21
goldfish
53:21
dying,
53:22
and
53:22
we
53:22
were
53:22
all
53:22
like,
53:24
that
53:25
was
53:25
a
53:25
joke.
53:26
You
53:26
preface
53:26
this
53:27
as
53:27
a
53:27
joke.
53:28
Here's.
53:29
Here's
53:29
the
53:29
problem.
53:30
Cried.
53:31
I
53:31
know.
53:31
Yeah.
53:31
That's
53:31
the
53:32
funny
53:32
part.
53:33
I.
53:33
I
53:33
don't.
53:33
I
53:34
don't
53:34
know.
53:34
It
53:34
was.
53:35
Ultimately,
53:35
it
53:35
came
53:36
down
53:36
to
53:36
the
53:36
fact
53:36
that
53:36
the
53:36
kid
53:37
ate
53:37
his
53:37
own
53:37
goldfish
53:38
and.
53:38
Okay,
53:39
see.
53:43
You
53:44
left
53:44
that
53:44
part
53:45
out
53:45
purposely.
53:46
As
53:46
long
53:46
as.
53:46
As
53:47
long
53:47
as
53:47
we're
53:47
improving,
53:48
you
53:48
know,
53:49
go
53:49
dark.
53:50
Always
53:50
go
53:50
dark.
53:53
No,
53:53
but,
53:54
you
53:54
know,
53:54
go
53:55
dark.
53:55
Yeah,
53:55
that's
53:56
right.
53:56
I
53:56
think.
53:57
I
53:57
think
53:57
that's
53:57
one
53:57
of
53:57
those
53:57
things
53:58
that,
53:58
like
53:58
greeting
53:59
cards,
53:59
is
53:59
a
53:59
really
53:59
untapped
54:00
market
54:01
when
54:01
it
54:01
comes
54:01
to,
54:02
you
54:03
know,
54:03
because
54:03
Hallmark
54:03
is
54:04
now
54:04
you
54:04
sound
54:04
like
54:04
Mr.
54:05
Deeds.
54:05
You're
54:06
right.
54:07
You're
54:08
right.
54:10
Now.
54:11
And
54:11
I'm
54:11
like,
54:13
for
54:13
a
54:13
15%
54:14
stake.
54:14
In
54:14
our
54:15
business,
54:17
we
54:17
have
54:17
the
54:17
concept
54:18
of
54:18
a
54:18
plane.
54:21
Like,
54:24
that's
54:24
a
54:24
market
54:24
I'm
54:25
not
54:25
ready
54:25
to
54:25
venture
54:26
into.
54:26
So
54:26
for
54:27
that,
54:27
I'm
54:28
out.
54:32
That's
54:33
Fantastic.
54:37
I
54:37
should
54:37
try
54:37
to
54:38
go
54:38
up
54:38
there
54:38
and
54:38
be
54:38
like
54:39
greeting
54:39
cards.
54:40
Be
54:40
like,
54:40
ma'am,
54:42
now
54:43
I
54:43
know
54:43
exactly
54:44
what
54:44
a
54:44
concept
54:45
of
54:45
a
54:45
plan
54:45
is.
54:45
It's
54:46
parrot
54:46
pitching
54:46
greeting
54:47
cards.
54:50
I'm
54:50
gonna
54:50
work
54:51
on
54:51
it.
54:51
I'm
54:51
gonna
54:51
work
54:52
on
54:52
it.
54:53
We'll
54:53
come
54:53
up,
54:53
we'll
54:53
come
54:54
up
54:54
with
54:54
a
54:54
few
54:54
greeting
54:54
cards
54:55
and
54:55
we'll
54:55
present
54:56
them
54:56
to
54:56
you
54:56
and
54:57
we'll
54:57
see
54:57
what,
54:58
we'll
54:58
see
54:58
what
54:58
you
54:58
think.
54:59
Wendy,
54:59
thank
54:59
you
54:59
for
54:59
dealing
55:00
with
55:00
our
55:00
shenanigans
55:00
because
55:01
that's
55:01
just
55:01
absolutely.
55:02
Listen
55:03
my,
55:03
like
55:03
I
55:04
said,
55:04
this
55:04
public,
55:04
all
55:04
of
55:05
me
55:05
and
55:05
my
55:05
outlets,
55:06
we
55:06
are
55:06
all
55:07
shenanigans.
55:08
We're
55:08
just
55:09
controlled
55:09
chaos
55:10
at
55:10
this
55:10
moment
55:11
and
55:11
probably
55:12
will
55:12
be
55:12
throughout.
55:13
That
55:13
is
55:14
such
55:14
an
55:14
oxymoron.
55:15
Controlled
55:15
chaos.
55:16
Oh
55:17
yeah.
55:18
So
55:19
it
55:19
was
55:19
a
55:19
concept
55:19
of
55:20
a
55:20
plane.
55:20
Yeah.
55:22
You
55:23
have
55:23
to
55:23
be
55:23
very
55:23
forgiving
55:24
in
55:24
those
55:24
situations.
55:25
All
55:25
right,
55:26
grandpa,
55:26
come
55:26
along.
55:29
I
55:29
do,
55:29
I
55:29
do
55:29
want
55:29
to
55:29
ask
55:30
one
55:30
more.
55:30
So
55:31
last
55:31
question
55:31
before
55:31
we
55:32
get
55:32
to
55:32
our.
55:33
Because
55:33
Winnie,
55:34
being
55:35
being
55:35
that
55:35
you
55:35
are
55:36
a
55:36
non
55:37
political
55:37
guest
55:38
and
55:38
it's
55:38
your
55:38
first
55:38
time
55:38
on
55:38
our
55:39
show,
55:39
we.
55:40
You
55:40
can't
55:40
see
55:41
it.
55:41
There
55:41
it
55:41
is.
55:44
Yeah,
55:46
we
55:46
have
55:46
our
55:46
seven
55:47
questions
55:47
we're
55:47
going
55:47
to
55:47
ask
55:47
you
55:48
here
55:48
in
55:48
a
55:48
second.
55:48
But
55:49
the
55:49
last
55:49
question
55:50
I
55:50
want
55:50
to
55:50
ask
55:50
you
55:50
is
55:51
tell
55:52
us
55:52
about
55:53
any
55:53
upcoming
55:54
projects.
55:54
I
55:54
know
55:54
you
55:54
just
55:54
mentioned
55:55
that
55:57
you
55:57
have,
55:57
I
55:58
guess
55:58
the
55:59
comic
55:59
book
56:00
or
56:00
the
56:00
graphic
56:01
novels.
56:01
That's
56:02
coming
56:02
up
56:02
at
56:02
the
56:02
end
56:02
of
56:03
this
56:03
month.
56:03
Right.
56:04
Is
56:04
there
56:05
anything
56:05
else
56:06
that
56:06
we
56:06
can
56:06
look
56:06
forward
56:06
to?
56:08
There's
56:08
a
56:08
lot.
56:09
Oh
56:10
goodness.
56:11
You
56:11
get
56:11
two.
56:12
I'm
56:12
just
56:12
kidding.
56:12
Go
56:13
ahead.
56:17
So
56:18
for
56:18
our
56:18
literary
56:19
magazine,
56:19
the
56:20
writing
56:20
fee,
56:20
we
56:21
are
56:21
now
56:21
accepting
56:21
submissions
56:22
for
56:22
short
56:23
story
56:23
and
56:24
artwork.
56:24
Very
56:25
cool.
56:25
And
56:26
there
56:26
are
56:26
all
56:27
of
56:27
the
56:27
guidelines
56:28
on
56:28
our
56:28
website@winsbooks
56:30
publishing.com.
56:33
gotta
56:33
remember
56:33
which
56:34
website
56:34
is
56:34
what.
56:35
Okay
56:37
then
56:38
for
56:38
our
56:39
poetry
56:39
of
56:40
the
56:40
month
56:40
or
56:40
poem
56:40
of
56:40
the
56:41
month,
56:41
that's
56:42
PLTM,
56:43
that
56:44
will
56:44
start
56:44
in
56:45
December
56:45
9th.
56:46
And
56:46
it's
56:47
not
56:47
me
56:47
judging
56:47
the
56:47
poetry,
56:48
but
56:48
it's
56:49
anonymously
56:50
judged
56:50
poetry
56:51
that
56:52
are
56:53
following
56:53
different
56:53
things
56:54
for
56:54
each
56:54
month.
56:55
And
56:56
we,
56:57
at
56:57
the
56:58
end
56:58
of
56:58
the
56:59
20,
56:59
25
56:59
years
57:00
of
57:00
December,
57:01
what
57:01
we
57:01
do,
57:01
we'll
57:01
compile
57:02
all
57:02
the
57:02
winners
57:02
and
57:03
their
57:03
artwork,
57:03
well,
57:04
excuse
57:04
me,
57:04
in
57:04
their
57:05
poetry
57:05
and
57:05
make
57:06
an
57:06
anthology
57:06
book
57:06
for
57:07
them
57:08
to
57:08
also
57:09
have,
57:09
showcase
57:09
and
57:09
sell
57:10
as
57:10
well.
57:11
It
57:11
is
57:11
free
57:12
to
57:12
enter
57:12
into
57:13
the
57:13
contest.
57:14
And
57:14
when
57:14
you
57:15
do
57:15
enter
57:15
and
57:15
you
57:15
win,
57:16
you
57:16
get
57:16
of
57:16
course
57:16
a
57:16
fun
57:17
little
57:17
badge
57:17
that
57:18
says
57:18
you
57:18
won.
57:19
You
57:19
get
57:20
posted
57:20
on
57:20
the
57:21
website,
57:21
you
57:21
get
57:22
a
57:22
WINS
57:22
Books
57:22
interview
57:23
and
57:23
you
57:24
get
57:24
to
57:24
be
57:25
the
57:25
star
57:25
of
57:25
one
57:26
of
57:26
the
57:27
months
57:28
open
57:29
mic
57:29
nights
57:30
and
57:30
get
57:30
to
57:30
actually
57:31
speak
57:31
to
57:31
your
57:31
poetry.
57:32
Live
57:32
in
57:32
person.
57:33
Very
57:33
cool.
57:34
Possible.
57:34
Yes.
57:35
So
57:36
a
57:36
lot
57:37
going
57:37
on.
57:38
That's
57:39
really.
57:39
That's
57:39
really
57:40
cool.
57:40
So
57:40
poetry
57:40
of
57:40
the
57:41
month.
57:41
That's
57:41
very
57:41
cool.
57:42
I
57:43
like
57:43
that.
57:43
My
57:43
favorite
57:44
poet,
57:44
Charles
57:45
Bukowski.
57:47
The
57:47
Lightning
57:47
behind
57:47
the
57:48
Mountain
57:49
and
57:50
the
57:50
Bone
57:51
Palace
57:51
Ballet.
57:52
I
57:52
don't
57:52
know
57:52
if
57:52
you
57:52
ever
57:52
heard
57:53
of
57:53
Charles
57:53
Bukowski.
57:54
He
57:54
was
57:54
very
57:55
good.
57:55
Okay.
57:56
I
57:56
actually
57:56
had
57:57
a
57:57
Francis
57:57
Ford
57:57
Coppola
57:58
movie
57:58
made
57:59
about
57:59
him.
58:00
Oh,
58:00
really?
58:01
Fun
58:01
fact.
58:01
Called
58:01
Barfly.
58:02
Yep.
58:04
Interesting.
58:04
Check
58:05
it
58:05
out.
58:05
He's
58:05
a
58:05
great
58:05
poet.
58:11
Best
58:11
godfather.
58:12
Well,
58:13
which
58:13
godfather
58:13
movie
58:13
was
58:14
the
58:14
best
58:14
one?
58:15
I
58:16
don't
58:16
like
58:16
mob
58:16
movies,
58:17
so
58:17
I
58:17
think
58:17
they're
58:17
all
58:17
garbage.
58:18
Wow.
58:19
Oh.
58:20
Oh.
58:21
See
58:21
you.
58:21
Right,
58:23
guys
58:24
going
58:24
like,
58:24
what
58:24
are
58:24
you
58:24
doing?
58:25
I.
58:26
I
58:26
don't
58:26
know.
58:27
I
58:27
think
58:27
he's
58:28
put
58:28
your
58:28
spaghetti
58:28
on
58:29
my
58:29
thigh.
58:30
And
58:30
I
58:30
think
58:31
the
58:31
block
58:31
is
58:31
gonna
58:32
hear
58:32
about
58:32
it.
58:33
There
58:33
was
58:33
so
58:33
much
58:34
bigotry
58:34
in
58:34
that.
58:35
I
58:35
apologize
58:37
to
58:37
the
58:37
Italians
58:39
of.
58:40
Actual
58:41
Italians.
58:42
I
58:42
said
58:43
mobsters.
58:44
You
58:44
did.
58:44
I
58:45
know,
58:45
but
58:46
you
58:46
did
58:46
an
58:46
impression.
58:47
The
58:48
father
58:48
wants
58:48
to.
58:50
That's
58:50
my
58:50
De
58:50
Niro.
58:52
I
58:52
got
58:52
nipples,
58:52
Greg.
58:52
Can
58:53
you
58:53
milk
58:53
me?
58:54
Like,
58:54
it's
58:54
exactly.
58:56
I
58:56
cannot
58:56
stand
58:57
it.
58:57
The
58:57
whole
58:57
time
58:57
I'm
58:58
watching,
58:58
I'm
58:58
just
58:58
like,
59:00
what
59:00
is
59:00
this?
59:01
It's
59:01
a
59:01
guy
59:01
in
59:01
a
59:02
suit
59:02
threatening
59:02
me.
59:03
I
59:03
can't.
59:04
Well,
59:05
Winnie,
59:06
I
59:06
want
59:06
to
59:06
thank
59:06
you
59:06
very
59:06
much
59:06
for
59:07
being
59:07
on
59:07
the
59:07
show
59:07
with
59:07
us.
59:07
We're
59:08
going
59:08
to
59:08
do
59:08
seven
59:08
questions
59:08
a
59:09
second.
59:09
But
59:09
I
59:09
want
59:09
to
59:09
remind
59:09
everybody.
59:11
It's.
59:12
It
59:12
WINS
59:12
Books.
59:13
WINS
59:14
Books.
59:15
Hold
59:15
on.
59:15
I
59:16
got.
59:16
I
59:16
got
59:16
it.
59:16
I
59:16
got
59:17
it
59:17
in
59:17
front
59:17
of
59:17
me.
59:17
I
59:18
got
59:18
to
59:18
go
59:18
back
59:18
to
59:18
it.
59:18
I'll
59:18
fill
59:19
the
59:19
time.
59:20
Come
59:20
back
59:20
here.
59:20
You
59:21
got
59:22
your
59:22
Cannoli.
59:23
It's
59:23
Winslow.
59:25
Winsbooks
59:26
blog
59:27
as
59:27
well.
59:27
Winsbooks
59:28
publishing
59:29
blog.
59:30
Correct.
59:31
Calm
59:31
dot
59:31
com.
59:32
Winsbook
59:32
publishing.com
59:33
miss
59:34
dot
59:35
com.
59:35
All
59:35
right,
59:36
I
59:36
got
59:36
it
59:36
fixed
59:36
now.
59:37
All
59:37
right.
59:38
Winsbooks
59:39
blog.
59:40
You
59:40
can
59:40
find
59:40
all
59:41
the
59:41
information,
59:41
including
59:41
the
59:42
blog
59:42
that
59:42
gives
59:43
people
59:43
insights
59:43
into
59:44
everything
59:45
that.
59:45
That
59:46
goes
59:46
into
59:46
the
59:46
process
59:47
of
59:48
creating
59:48
the
59:49
books
59:49
and
59:49
the
59:49
characters
59:49
and
59:50
the
59:50
story.
59:51
So
59:51
check
59:51
that
59:52
out.
59:52
You
59:53
have
59:54
two
59:54
book
59:54
series
59:55
right
59:55
now
59:56
currently
59:56
available.
59:57
Three
59:58
books
59:58
in
59:58
both
59:59
the
59:59
series.
59:59
Am
59:59
I
59:59
right?
1:00:00
I
1:00:01
have
1:00:02
what?
1:00:02
It's
1:00:02
one
1:00:03
series.
1:00:03
It's
1:00:03
one
1:00:03
series.
1:00:04
Yes.
1:00:05
So
1:00:05
the
1:00:05
God
1:00:06
Scion
1:00:06
series,
1:00:07
it's
1:00:07
on
1:00:07
book
1:00:08
five
1:00:08
was
1:00:08
released
1:00:08
this
1:00:09
August
1:00:10
and
1:00:11
the
1:00:11
last
1:00:11
book
1:00:11
in.
1:00:12
Hopefully
1:00:12
the
1:00:12
last
1:00:13
book
1:00:13
in
1:00:13
the
1:00:13
series
1:00:14
will
1:00:14
be
1:00:14
released
1:00:15
in
1:00:15
2026.
1:00:16
Okay.
1:00:16
And
1:00:17
then
1:00:17
I.
1:00:17
I
1:00:18
will
1:00:18
rest
1:00:18
for,
1:00:18
like,
1:00:18
three
1:00:19
months
1:00:19
and
1:00:19
then
1:00:19
write
1:00:19
a
1:00:20
new
1:00:20
series.
1:00:21
Hey,
1:00:22
buckle
1:00:22
up
1:00:22
for
1:00:22
that
1:00:22
ending.
1:00:23
We
1:00:23
all.
1:00:23
We're
1:00:23
all
1:00:23
gonna
1:00:24
read
1:00:24
it,
1:00:24
and
1:00:24
we
1:00:25
have
1:00:25
to
1:00:25
know.
1:00:26
Oh,
1:00:26
I
1:00:26
already
1:00:27
know.
1:00:27
Like,
1:00:27
I.
1:00:28
I
1:00:29
finished
1:00:29
the
1:00:29
outline,
1:00:30
and
1:00:30
I
1:00:30
finished,
1:00:30
like,
1:00:31
the
1:00:31
big.
1:00:31
The
1:00:31
final
1:00:32
big
1:00:32
reveal
1:00:33
that,
1:00:33
like,
1:00:33
all
1:00:34
the
1:00:34
books
1:00:34
I've
1:00:34
been
1:00:34
accumulating
1:00:35
up
1:00:35
to.
1:00:35
And
1:00:35
I'm
1:00:36
like,
1:00:37
some
1:00:38
people
1:00:38
are
1:00:38
gonna
1:00:38
be
1:00:38
alone.
1:00:40
Listen,
1:00:41
as
1:00:41
long
1:00:41
as
1:00:41
Jon
1:00:41
Snow
1:00:42
gets
1:00:42
the
1:00:42
Iron
1:00:42
Throne,
1:00:43
I'm
1:00:43
fine.
1:00:43
You
1:00:44
know,
1:00:44
what
1:00:44
if
1:00:45
it.
1:00:45
As
1:00:45
long
1:00:45
as
1:00:45
it's
1:00:46
not,
1:00:46
like,
1:00:46
the
1:00:46
ending
1:00:47
to
1:00:47
the
1:00:47
Penguin
1:00:49
or
1:00:50
the.
1:00:50
Or
1:00:50
the
1:00:50
opening
1:00:50
to
1:00:51
Yellowstone
1:00:51
this
1:00:52
week.
1:00:53
Brutal.
1:00:54
Yeah.
1:00:55
See,
1:00:55
I.
1:00:56
I
1:00:56
won't
1:00:56
promise
1:00:57
anything.
1:00:57
All
1:00:57
I
1:00:58
know
1:00:58
is
1:00:58
that
1:00:58
I
1:00:58
have
1:00:59
had
1:00:59
some
1:00:59
readers
1:00:59
say,
1:01:00
if
1:01:01
I
1:01:01
don't
1:01:01
get
1:01:01
a
1:01:02
happy
1:01:02
ending,
1:01:02
Winnie,
1:01:03
I'm
1:01:04
coming
1:01:04
to
1:01:04
South
1:01:05
Carolina.
1:01:06
What
1:01:06
do
1:01:07
you.
1:01:07
What
1:01:07
do
1:01:07
you
1:01:08
mean?
1:01:08
They're
1:01:08
like,
1:01:09
if
1:01:10
my
1:01:10
main
1:01:10
ship
1:01:11
does
1:01:11
not
1:01:11
survive
1:01:12
these
1:01:13
six
1:01:13
books,
1:01:14
I'm
1:01:14
at
1:01:15
your
1:01:15
door.
1:01:15
And
1:01:15
I'm
1:01:15
like,
1:01:17
that's
1:01:17
when
1:01:17
you
1:01:17
test
1:01:18
how
1:01:18
serious
1:01:18
they
1:01:18
are.
1:01:19
And
1:01:19
then
1:01:19
a
1:01:19
cannonball
1:01:20
came.
1:01:22
You're
1:01:23
literally
1:01:23
like,
1:01:23
who
1:01:24
did
1:01:24
you
1:01:24
kill
1:01:24
in
1:01:24
this
1:01:24
book?
1:01:24
I'm
1:01:25
like,
1:01:25
yeah,
1:01:25
no,
1:01:25
no,
1:01:26
no.
1:01:26
You
1:01:26
do.
1:01:27
You
1:01:27
do
1:01:27
exactly
1:01:27
what
1:01:27
Michael
1:01:28
Crichton
1:01:28
did,
1:01:28
and
1:01:29
he
1:01:29
ends
1:01:30
every
1:01:30
single
1:01:31
one
1:01:31
of
1:01:31
his
1:01:31
books.
1:01:32
Not
1:01:32
every
1:01:32
one
1:01:33
of
1:01:33
them,
1:01:33
but
1:01:33
for
1:01:33
the
1:01:33
most
1:01:34
part,
1:01:34
Michael
1:01:34
Crichton's
1:01:35
books,
1:01:35
they
1:01:35
end
1:01:36
basically
1:01:36
the
1:01:36
same
1:01:37
way.
1:01:37
Everything's
1:01:38
building
1:01:38
up.
1:01:39
We
1:01:39
look.
1:01:39
It
1:01:39
looks
1:01:39
like
1:01:40
everything's
1:01:40
gonna
1:01:40
be.
1:01:40
You
1:01:41
know,
1:01:41
either.
1:01:41
Either
1:01:41
it's
1:01:42
gonna
1:01:42
be
1:01:42
like,
1:01:42
this
1:01:43
catastrophic
1:01:43
event,
1:01:44
you
1:01:44
know
1:01:44
what?
1:01:44
Or
1:01:44
that's
1:01:45
basically
1:01:45
how
1:01:45
they
1:01:45
ended.
1:01:46
They
1:01:46
all
1:01:46
end
1:01:46
in
1:01:46
catastrophic
1:01:47
events.
1:01:47
Because
1:01:48
I
1:01:48
assume
1:01:48
Michael
1:01:48
Crichton,
1:01:49
before
1:01:50
he
1:01:50
died,
1:01:51
had
1:01:51
rent
1:01:51
to
1:01:51
pay.
1:01:52
And
1:01:52
it
1:01:52
was
1:01:52
like,
1:01:53
let
1:01:53
me
1:01:53
get
1:01:53
this
1:01:53
out
1:01:53
the
1:01:54
door
1:01:54
so
1:01:54
I
1:01:54
can
1:01:54
make
1:01:55
rent.
1:01:56
The
1:01:56
T.
1:01:56
Rex
1:01:56
ain't
1:01:57
the
1:01:57
lawyer,
1:01:57
but
1:01:57
he
1:01:58
had
1:01:58
ongoing
1:01:58
litigations.
1:02:03
Yeah,
1:02:04
but
1:02:05
I
1:02:05
definitely,
1:02:06
like,
1:02:06
I'm
1:02:07
that
1:02:07
author.
1:02:07
Everyone's
1:02:08
like,
1:02:09
did
1:02:09
you
1:02:09
kill
1:02:10
another
1:02:10
character
1:02:10
in
1:02:10
this
1:02:11
book?
1:02:11
And
1:02:11
I'm
1:02:11
like,
1:02:12
how
1:02:12
mad
1:02:13
do
1:02:13
you
1:02:13
want
1:02:13
to
1:02:13
be
1:02:13
at
1:02:14
me
1:02:14
today?
1:02:14
Like,
1:02:14
that's
1:02:15
right.
1:02:16
They're
1:02:17
like,
1:02:17
do
1:02:17
you
1:02:17
kill
1:02:17
any
1:02:17
main
1:02:17
characters?
1:02:18
Every
1:02:18
book
1:02:18
will
1:02:19
have
1:02:19
a
1:02:19
red
1:02:19
wedding,
1:02:19
and
1:02:19
you
1:02:20
will
1:02:20
enjoy
1:02:20
it.
1:02:24
One
1:02:24
of
1:02:25
my
1:02:25
friends,
1:02:25
he
1:02:25
said,
1:02:26
your
1:02:26
books
1:02:26
are
1:02:26
giving
1:02:27
me
1:02:27
chest
1:02:27
issues
1:02:28
because
1:02:28
I'm
1:02:28
scared
1:02:28
to
1:02:28
ask
1:02:29
you.
1:02:30
Like,
1:02:31
I
1:02:31
keep
1:02:31
asking.
1:02:31
I'm
1:02:31
like,
1:02:31
who's
1:02:32
your
1:02:32
favorite
1:02:32
character?
1:02:32
I'm
1:02:32
like,
1:02:32
he's
1:02:33
like,
1:02:33
I
1:02:33
can't
1:02:33
tell
1:02:33
you.
1:02:33
You
1:02:34
might
1:02:34
kill
1:02:34
them.
1:02:34
I'm
1:02:34
like,
1:02:36
yep,
1:02:36
that's
1:02:37
fair.
1:02:37
That's
1:02:37
for
1:02:38
you,
1:02:38
Phil.
1:02:39
Yeah,
1:02:40
I
1:02:40
was
1:02:40
like,
1:02:42
the
1:02:42
main
1:02:42
characters
1:02:43
are.
1:02:43
Well.
1:02:44
She's
1:02:44
like,
1:02:44
see?
1:02:46
I'm
1:02:46
like,
1:02:47
they.
1:02:48
They.
1:02:50
That's
1:02:50
when
1:02:50
you.
1:02:50
That's
1:02:50
when
1:02:51
you
1:02:51
laugh.
1:02:51
You're
1:02:51
like,
1:02:51
oh,
1:02:52
you
1:02:52
thought
1:02:52
they
1:02:52
were
1:02:52
a
1:02:53
main
1:02:53
character?
1:02:56
Well,
1:02:57
make
1:02:57
sure
1:02:57
to
1:02:57
check
1:02:57
out
1:02:58
Wins
1:02:58
Books
1:02:59
Blog,
1:02:59
WinsBook
1:03:00
Blog,
1:03:00
and
1:03:01
WinsBooks
1:03:02
Publishing.com.
1:03:02
so
1:03:02
check
1:03:03
that
1:03:03
out.
1:03:03
All
1:03:03
right,
1:03:03
Winnie,
1:03:03
are
1:03:04
you
1:03:04
ready
1:03:04
for
1:03:04
our
1:03:04
seven
1:03:05
questions?
1:03:05
Yes.
1:03:06
All
1:03:06
right,
1:03:07
here's
1:03:07
your
1:03:08
first
1:03:08
question.
1:03:08
What
1:03:09
was
1:03:09
the
1:03:09
last
1:03:09
thing
1:03:09
that
1:03:09
you
1:03:10
googled?
1:03:13
And
1:03:14
it
1:03:14
can't
1:03:14
be
1:03:14
the
1:03:14
All
1:03:14
About
1:03:15
Nothing
1:03:15
podcast.
1:03:18
Be
1:03:19
honest.
1:03:21
How
1:03:22
long
1:03:22
can
1:03:22
a
1:03:22
hand
1:03:23
survive
1:03:23
without
1:03:24
its
1:03:24
host?
1:03:25
That's
1:03:26
dark.
1:03:29
Look,
1:03:29
I
1:03:29
told
1:03:29
y'all.
1:03:30
That's
1:03:31
good.
1:03:31
That's,
1:03:32
that's,
1:03:32
that
1:03:33
was
1:03:33
my
1:03:33
Tuesday
1:03:33
Google.
1:03:34
I'm
1:03:34
right
1:03:34
there
1:03:34
with
1:03:35
you.
1:03:35
Yeah,
1:03:36
so
1:03:36
that,
1:03:37
that's
1:03:37
a
1:03:37
first
1:03:38
for.
1:03:38
My
1:03:38
FBI
1:03:39
agent
1:03:39
listening.
1:03:40
This
1:03:40
was
1:03:40
for
1:03:40
research
1:03:41
purposes,
1:03:41
for
1:03:41
the
1:03:43
work
1:03:43
I'm
1:03:43
doing,
1:03:44
you
1:03:44
know.
1:03:47
For
1:03:47
my,
1:03:48
for
1:03:48
my
1:03:48
parole
1:03:48
officer.
1:03:49
Look,
1:03:50
habits
1:03:50
are
1:03:51
hard
1:03:51
to
1:03:51
break.
1:03:54
Fun
1:03:54
is
1:03:54
fun.
1:03:54
Don't
1:03:55
frown.
1:03:55
That's
1:03:56
right.
1:03:57
All
1:03:57
right,
1:03:57
question
1:03:58
number
1:03:58
two.
1:03:58
If
1:03:58
you
1:03:58
could
1:03:59
have
1:03:59
one
1:03:59
superpower,
1:04:00
what
1:04:00
would
1:04:00
it
1:04:00
be?
1:04:02
Ooh,
1:04:05
probably
1:04:06
to
1:04:07
teleport.
1:04:08
Okay.
1:04:09
Teleportation.
1:04:10
Yield.
1:04:10
It's
1:04:11
a
1:04:11
transmission.
1:04:12
I
1:04:12
just
1:04:12
want
1:04:13
to
1:04:13
be
1:04:13
able
1:04:13
to
1:04:13
go
1:04:13
to
1:04:14
places.
1:04:14
Like,
1:04:14
I'm,
1:04:14
like,
1:04:15
I'm
1:04:15
feeling
1:04:15
macarons.
1:04:16
Boom,
1:04:16
I'm
1:04:17
in
1:04:17
France.
1:04:17
I'm
1:04:17
just
1:04:18
mere
1:04:19
seat
1:04:19
and
1:04:19
I'm
1:04:19
back
1:04:20
here
1:04:20
like,
1:04:20
oh,
1:04:21
I
1:04:21
don't
1:04:21
want
1:04:21
to
1:04:21
deal
1:04:21
with
1:04:22
traffic.
1:04:22
Boom,
1:04:22
I'm
1:04:23
here.
1:04:23
Oh,
1:04:23
so
1:04:23
we're
1:04:24
talking
1:04:24
like,
1:04:24
we're
1:04:24
talking
1:04:25
like
1:04:25
in
1:04:26
some
1:04:26
cases,
1:04:26
like
1:04:26
some
1:04:27
like
1:04:27
far
1:04:27
teleport.
1:04:28
I
1:04:28
like
1:04:28
night
1:04:29
crawler,
1:04:29
like
1:04:30
transport,
1:04:30
you
1:04:30
know,
1:04:31
teleport
1:04:31
right
1:04:31
next
1:04:31
to
1:04:32
the
1:04:32
Bahamas.
1:04:33
Yeah,
1:04:34
I'm
1:04:34
going
1:04:34
to,
1:04:35
I'm
1:04:35
going.
1:04:38
I'm
1:04:38
with
1:04:39
winning.
1:04:39
When
1:04:39
I
1:04:39
say,
1:04:39
when
1:04:40
I
1:04:40
say
1:04:40
teleporting,
1:04:41
I'm
1:04:41
talking.
1:04:41
I
1:04:41
want
1:04:42
to
1:04:42
be
1:04:42
on
1:04:42
Mars
1:04:42
real
1:04:42
quick.
1:04:43
I'm
1:04:43
Dr.
1:04:43
Manhattan
1:04:44
Strength
1:04:44
on
1:04:44
this
1:04:44
thing.
1:04:44
I'm
1:04:45
gonna
1:04:45
go
1:04:45
sit
1:04:45
on.
1:04:46
Sit
1:04:46
on
1:04:46
the
1:04:46
moon
1:04:46
if
1:04:46
I
1:04:47
need
1:04:47
to.
1:04:47
Yeah.
1:04:47
I'm
1:04:47
taking
1:04:48
a
1:04:48
cute
1:04:49
little
1:04:49
selfie
1:04:49
on
1:04:50
the
1:04:50
moon
1:04:50
and
1:04:50
I'm
1:04:50
back
1:04:50
here
1:04:51
like.
1:04:51
Yeah,
1:04:52
exactly
1:04:54
to
1:04:54
the
1:04:54
picture.
1:04:54
The
1:04:54
selfie
1:04:55
you're
1:04:55
gonna
1:04:55
take
1:04:55
on
1:04:55
the
1:04:56
moon
1:04:56
is
1:04:56
gonna
1:04:56
be.
1:04:58
Sorry,
1:04:59
you're
1:04:59
wearing
1:04:59
a
1:04:59
space
1:05:00
suit.
1:05:01
I'm
1:05:01
a
1:05:01
borrow
1:05:02
a
1:05:02
little
1:05:02
cute
1:05:03
little,
1:05:03
you
1:05:03
know,
1:05:03
space
1:05:04
suit.
1:05:04
An
1:05:04
environmental.
1:05:06
And
1:05:07
then
1:05:07
I'm
1:05:07
gonna
1:05:07
do
1:05:07
like
1:05:07
a
1:05:08
IOU
1:05:08
sticker
1:05:09
back
1:05:09
to
1:05:09
them
1:05:09
like,
1:05:09
thanks.
1:05:11
Barry
1:05:12
should
1:05:12
not
1:05:12
have
1:05:12
teleportation
1:05:13
because
1:05:13
he
1:05:13
would
1:05:13
have
1:05:13
just
1:05:14
gone
1:05:14
to
1:05:14
the
1:05:14
moon.
1:05:15
I
1:05:15
would
1:05:15
have
1:05:16
the
1:05:16
moonlight.
1:05:17
Exactly.
1:05:18
I
1:05:18
would
1:05:18
have
1:05:18
murdered
1:05:19
myself.
1:05:20
Not
1:05:20
on
1:05:20
purpose.
1:05:23
You'd
1:05:23
be
1:05:23
like.
1:05:24
And
1:05:24
there's
1:05:25
no
1:05:25
bacteria,
1:05:26
so
1:05:26
you
1:05:26
just
1:05:26
forever,
1:05:27
like
1:05:27
in
1:05:27
a
1:05:28
semi
1:05:28
falling
1:05:28
stage.
1:05:29
There'S
1:05:30
going
1:05:30
to
1:05:30
teleport
1:05:30
next
1:05:30
to
1:05:31
me
1:05:31
and
1:05:31
be
1:05:31
like,
1:05:31
how
1:05:31
did
1:05:32
this.
1:05:32
Ah,
1:05:33
he
1:05:33
forgot
1:05:33
the
1:05:33
space
1:05:34
suit.
1:05:34
Yeah,
1:05:35
that's
1:05:35
exactly
1:05:35
right.
1:05:38
All
1:05:38
right,
1:05:39
third
1:05:39
question.
1:05:39
If
1:05:39
your
1:05:40
movie.
1:05:40
I'm
1:05:40
sorry,
1:05:41
if
1:05:41
your
1:05:41
life
1:05:41
were
1:05:41
a
1:05:41
movie.
1:05:42
What.
1:05:42
What
1:05:42
would
1:05:42
the
1:05:42
title
1:05:43
be.
1:05:46
Add
1:05:46
More
1:05:46
Pink.
1:05:48
Okay.
1:05:49
That
1:05:49
is
1:05:49
such
1:05:49
a
1:05:49
good
1:05:49
title
1:05:50
for
1:05:50
a
1:05:50
movie.
1:05:50
Yeah,
1:05:51
yeah,
1:05:51
yeah,
1:05:51
yeah.
1:05:52
And
1:05:52
a
1:05:52
lot
1:05:52
of
1:05:52
our
1:05:52
guests
1:05:53
don't
1:05:53
understand
1:05:53
that
1:05:53
question
1:05:54
and
1:05:54
just
1:05:54
say,
1:05:54
like,
1:05:55
Forrest
1:05:55
Gump.
1:05:55
You're
1:05:56
like,
1:05:56
no,
1:05:56
you
1:05:56
created
1:05:57
the
1:05:57
title,
1:05:57
so
1:05:57
that's
1:05:58
perfect.
1:05:59
Congratulations.
1:06:00
You
1:06:00
just
1:06:01
won
1:06:01
an
1:06:01
Emmy.
1:06:02
Yes.
1:06:03
Or
1:06:03
an
1:06:04
Oscar.
1:06:06
Add
1:06:06
more
1:06:06
Pink.
1:06:07
Good.
1:06:07
All
1:06:07
right,
1:06:08
number
1:06:08
four.
1:06:08
If
1:06:08
you
1:06:09
could
1:06:09
eat
1:06:09
one
1:06:09
food
1:06:10
for
1:06:10
the
1:06:10
rest
1:06:10
of
1:06:10
your
1:06:10
life,
1:06:11
what
1:06:11
would
1:06:11
it
1:06:11
be?
1:06:13
I
1:06:13
love
1:06:14
food.
1:06:15
Me,
1:06:16
too.
1:06:16
Let's
1:06:16
see.
1:06:17
That's
1:06:18
hard.
1:06:20
I.
1:06:20
I
1:06:20
could
1:06:22
either
1:06:23
sushi.
1:06:23
One
1:06:24
of
1:06:24
my.
1:06:24
Because
1:06:24
my
1:06:25
parents
1:06:25
are
1:06:25
Cameronians,
1:06:26
I'm
1:06:26
Cameroonian,
1:06:27
so
1:06:27
either
1:06:29
one
1:06:29
of
1:06:29
my
1:06:29
favorite
1:06:30
dishes
1:06:30
is
1:06:30
ekwang,
1:06:32
which
1:06:32
is
1:06:32
coca
1:06:33
leaves
1:06:33
wrapped
1:06:34
in
1:06:35
usually
1:06:36
pounded
1:06:36
cassava
1:06:38
and
1:06:38
boiled
1:06:39
with
1:06:39
a
1:06:40
red
1:06:40
stew
1:06:40
and
1:06:41
meat.
1:06:41
And
1:06:42
it's
1:06:42
so
1:06:42
good.
1:06:43
Okay.
1:06:44
And
1:06:44
it
1:06:44
tastes.
1:06:45
Well,
1:06:45
it
1:06:45
takes
1:06:45
me
1:06:45
forever
1:06:46
to
1:06:46
make,
1:06:46
but
1:06:46
it's
1:06:47
so
1:06:47
good.
1:06:48
I
1:06:48
would
1:06:48
either
1:06:48
have
1:06:49
that
1:06:49
or
1:06:49
sushi.
1:06:49
So
1:06:50
either
1:06:50
something
1:06:50
very
1:06:51
hearty
1:06:51
and
1:06:52
warm
1:06:52
or
1:06:52
just
1:06:53
fish
1:06:53
and
1:06:54
rice.
1:06:54
All
1:06:54
right.
1:06:54
That's
1:06:55
like
1:06:55
a
1:06:55
labor
1:06:55
of
1:06:55
love.
1:06:57
Which
1:06:57
one?
1:06:58
Sushi.
1:07:00
You
1:07:01
didn't
1:07:01
name
1:07:01
two
1:07:03
equine.
1:07:03
I
1:07:04
have
1:07:04
to
1:07:04
go.
1:07:05
Have
1:07:05
to
1:07:05
go
1:07:05
with
1:07:05
yes.
1:07:06
All
1:07:06
right.
1:07:07
Apropos
1:07:07
of
1:07:08
that,
1:07:08
I
1:07:08
remember
1:07:08
being,
1:07:08
like,
1:07:09
12
1:07:09
and
1:07:09
eating
1:07:09
a
1:07:10
peanut
1:07:10
butter
1:07:10
and
1:07:10
jelly
1:07:10
and
1:07:11
be
1:07:11
like,
1:07:11
if
1:07:11
I
1:07:11
had
1:07:11
one
1:07:11
wish
1:07:12
and
1:07:12
one
1:07:12
food
1:07:12
to
1:07:12
eat,
1:07:12
it'd
1:07:12
be
1:07:13
peanut
1:07:13
butter
1:07:13
and
1:07:13
jelly.
1:07:14
I'd
1:07:14
be
1:07:14
so
1:07:14
mad.
1:07:15
If
1:07:15
that
1:07:15
wish
1:07:15
worked
1:07:16
today,
1:07:16
I'd
1:07:16
be
1:07:16
like,
1:07:17
I
1:07:17
don't
1:07:17
know.
1:07:17
Everything's
1:07:17
peanut
1:07:18
butter
1:07:18
jelly
1:07:19
for
1:07:19
me.
1:07:22
All
1:07:22
right,
1:07:23
question
1:07:23
number
1:07:23
five.
1:07:24
What
1:07:24
is
1:07:24
your
1:07:24
least
1:07:25
favorite
1:07:25
candy
1:07:26
and
1:07:26
why?
1:07:31
Milk
1:07:31
Duds.
1:07:32
Milk
1:07:33
Duds.
1:07:34
Yes.
1:07:35
They
1:07:35
have
1:07:35
a
1:07:35
terrible
1:07:35
name,
1:07:36
visually
1:07:36
unoppealed.
1:07:36
They
1:07:37
look
1:07:37
funky.
1:07:37
They
1:07:37
look
1:07:38
like
1:07:38
little
1:07:38
animal
1:07:38
turds.
1:07:39
Yeah,
1:07:39
I
1:07:39
don't.
1:07:41
I
1:07:41
don't
1:07:42
disagree.
1:07:43
Who
1:07:44
made
1:07:44
that?
1:07:44
I
1:07:44
need
1:07:45
a.
1:07:45
I
1:07:45
know
1:07:45
the
1:07:45
creator's
1:07:46
probably
1:07:46
gone,
1:07:47
but
1:07:48
we
1:07:48
need
1:07:48
to
1:07:48
do
1:07:49
a
1:07:49
seance
1:07:49
or
1:07:49
something,
1:07:50
because
1:07:50
we
1:07:50
need.
1:07:50
I'm
1:07:50
still
1:07:51
here,
1:07:51
Herman.
1:07:51
Milk
1:07:52
Dud
1:07:54
is
1:07:54
why,
1:07:55
like,
1:07:56
what?
1:07:56
You
1:07:56
say
1:07:57
Milk
1:07:57
and
1:07:57
Dud
1:07:57
like
1:07:58
that,
1:07:58
and
1:07:58
said.
1:07:58
Oh,
1:07:58
that.
1:07:59
That's
1:07:59
a
1:07:59
name.
1:08:00
The
1:08:00
inventor
1:08:00
of
1:08:00
the
1:08:01
Milk
1:08:01
Dud,
1:08:01
Franklin
1:08:02
d.
1:08:02
Milk
1:08:02
Dud.
1:08:04
Mr.
1:08:05
Milk.
1:08:05
There's
1:08:06
no
1:08:06
way
1:08:06
he
1:08:06
got
1:08:07
out
1:08:07
of
1:08:07
fourth
1:08:07
grade
1:08:07
without
1:08:08
getting
1:08:08
a
1:08:08
purple
1:08:09
nurple
1:08:09
or
1:08:09
something.
1:08:10
Hey,
1:08:10
Milk
1:08:10
Dud,
1:08:10
what
1:08:11
are
1:08:11
you
1:08:11
eating?
1:08:11
One
1:08:12
day
1:08:12
in
1:08:12
movies,
1:08:12
you'll
1:08:13
be
1:08:13
throwing
1:08:13
them
1:08:13
at
1:08:13
people
1:08:14
in
1:08:14
the
1:08:14
front
1:08:14
row.
1:08:14
They
1:08:15
make
1:08:15
a
1:08:16
nasty
1:08:16
candy
1:08:17
and
1:08:17
then
1:08:18
are
1:08:19
confused
1:08:19
why
1:08:19
they're
1:08:19
still
1:08:20
getting
1:08:20
bullied.
1:08:20
Like,
1:08:20
if
1:08:21
I
1:08:22
do
1:08:22
not
1:08:22
condone
1:08:22
bullying,
1:08:23
but.
1:08:23
No,
1:08:24
we
1:08:24
need
1:08:24
to
1:08:24
talk
1:08:24
to
1:08:24
somebody.
1:08:25
Someone
1:08:25
needs
1:08:25
to
1:08:26
get
1:08:26
a
1:08:26
wedgie
1:08:26
or
1:08:27
a
1:08:27
spitball
1:08:28
or
1:08:28
something.
1:08:30
I
1:08:30
don't
1:08:30
condone
1:08:31
violence.
1:08:31
Against
1:08:31
other
1:08:32
people.
1:08:32
But
1:08:33
somebody
1:08:33
take
1:08:33
care
1:08:33
of
1:08:33
this
1:08:34
one.
1:08:34
Yeah.
1:08:35
Because
1:08:36
I,
1:08:37
you
1:08:37
know,
1:08:37
Halloween
1:08:38
just
1:08:38
passed
1:08:39
and
1:08:39
it's
1:08:39
always,
1:08:40
you
1:08:40
try
1:08:40
to
1:08:40
get
1:08:40
your
1:08:40
little
1:08:41
bag
1:08:41
of
1:08:41
chocolate,
1:08:41
and
1:08:42
they
1:08:42
have
1:08:42
them
1:08:42
there.
1:08:43
It's.
1:08:43
And
1:08:43
they
1:08:44
don't
1:08:44
have
1:08:44
it
1:08:44
any
1:08:44
other
1:08:45
time.
1:08:45
That's
1:08:46
fair.
1:08:46
I've
1:08:46
never
1:08:47
seen,
1:08:47
like,
1:08:47
a
1:08:47
box
1:08:47
of
1:08:47
Milk
1:08:48
Duds
1:08:48
movie
1:08:49
theaters.
1:08:49
Because
1:08:50
no
1:08:50
one.
1:08:51
There
1:08:51
was
1:08:51
a
1:08:51
time.
1:08:52
There
1:08:52
was
1:08:52
a
1:08:52
time
1:08:53
movie
1:08:53
theaters
1:08:54
had
1:08:54
Milk
1:08:54
Duds.
1:08:55
They
1:08:55
may
1:08:55
still
1:08:55
have
1:08:55
Milk
1:08:56
Duds,
1:08:56
but.
1:08:58
The
1:08:58
ones
1:08:58
I
1:08:58
go
1:08:59
to.
1:08:59
Oh,
1:08:59
hey,
1:09:00
hey,
1:09:01
I
1:09:01
see.
1:09:04
Hold
1:09:05
on.
1:09:05
That
1:09:05
opens
1:09:06
up
1:09:06
a
1:09:06
whole
1:09:06
different
1:09:07
question,
1:09:07
Winnie.
1:09:08
Are
1:09:08
you
1:09:09
going
1:09:09
to
1:09:09
really
1:09:09
good
1:09:09
ones
1:09:09
or
1:09:10
am
1:09:10
I
1:09:10
going
1:09:10
to
1:09:10
really
1:09:10
shitty
1:09:11
ones?
1:09:13
Listen,
1:09:13
those
1:09:14
melts,
1:09:16
if
1:09:17
you
1:09:17
see
1:09:17
them,
1:09:17
they're
1:09:17
just
1:09:18
display.
1:09:18
They
1:09:19
have
1:09:19
been
1:09:19
there
1:09:19
for
1:09:19
probably
1:09:20
40
1:09:20
years.
1:09:22
If
1:09:22
you
1:09:22
open
1:09:22
them,
1:09:23
those
1:09:23
Milk
1:09:23
Dogs
1:09:24
are
1:09:24
probably
1:09:24
milk
1:09:25
dust.
1:09:25
It's
1:09:25
not,
1:09:26
it's
1:09:27
just,
1:09:27
those
1:09:28
are
1:09:28
just
1:09:29
there
1:09:29
for
1:09:29
show.
1:09:29
So
1:09:30
when
1:09:30
the
1:09:30
milk
1:09:30
does
1:09:31
person
1:09:31
comes
1:09:31
in
1:09:31
to
1:09:32
go
1:09:32
like,
1:09:32
oh,
1:09:32
are
1:09:32
you
1:09:32
guys
1:09:33
selling?
1:09:33
They're
1:09:33
like,
1:09:33
yeah,
1:09:34
they're
1:09:34
up
1:09:34
here
1:09:35
on
1:09:35
the
1:09:35
shelf.
1:09:35
Purely
1:09:36
out
1:09:36
of
1:09:36
beer.
1:09:39
Purely
1:09:39
out
1:09:39
of
1:09:40
curiosity,
1:09:40
do
1:09:41
you
1:09:41
think
1:09:41
the
1:09:42
late,
1:09:42
great
1:09:43
Peewee
1:09:43
Herman
1:09:44
did.
1:09:44
They
1:09:45
had
1:09:45
Milk
1:09:45
Duds
1:09:45
at
1:09:45
his
1:09:45
theater?
1:09:47
I
1:09:47
let
1:09:47
Milk
1:09:48
Duds,
1:09:48
Dottie,
1:09:51
listen,
1:09:51
I,
1:09:52
I
1:09:52
see,
1:09:52
I
1:09:53
see,
1:09:53
I
1:09:54
see.
1:09:54
I
1:09:54
see
1:09:55
your
1:09:55
Milk
1:09:55
Nuds
1:09:55
and
1:09:55
I
1:09:56
raise
1:09:56
you
1:09:56
Tootsie
1:09:56
Rolls.
1:09:57
No
1:09:57
one
1:09:57
bites
1:09:58
into
1:09:58
a
1:09:58
Tootsie
1:09:58
Rolling
1:09:59
like,
1:09:59
I
1:09:59
made
1:09:59
a
1:09:59
good.
1:09:59
They're
1:09:59
cousins.
1:10:00
They're
1:10:00
cousins.
1:10:01
Oh,
1:10:02
I
1:10:02
don't
1:10:02
like.
1:10:03
Older
1:10:03
cousin
1:10:04
Milk
1:10:04
Duds
1:10:05
has,
1:10:05
like,
1:10:06
dry,
1:10:06
like,
1:10:06
crispy
1:10:07
cookies.
1:10:07
Trying
1:10:08
to
1:10:08
be
1:10:08
hip
1:10:08
and
1:10:08
trying
1:10:08
to
1:10:09
still
1:10:09
fit
1:10:09
in.
1:10:10
Mug
1:10:10
Dud
1:10:10
has
1:10:11
accepted
1:10:11
its
1:10:11
face
1:10:11
is
1:10:12
like,
1:10:12
listen.
1:10:13
They
1:10:13
have
1:10:13
the
1:10:13
call
1:10:13
to
1:10:13
make
1:10:13
the
1:10:14
rolls
1:10:15
just
1:10:15
like,
1:10:16
exactly
1:10:16
like,
1:10:17
the
1:10:17
teacher
1:10:17
was
1:10:17
like,
1:10:18
look,
1:10:18
I'm
1:10:18
flexible
1:10:18
and
1:10:19
I'm
1:10:19
fun
1:10:19
and
1:10:19
I,
1:10:20
I,
1:10:20
I
1:10:21
can
1:10:21
come
1:10:21
to
1:10:21
the
1:10:21
party.
1:10:21
Everyone's
1:10:22
like,
1:10:23
you
1:10:23
get
1:10:23
out
1:10:23
of
1:10:23
here.
1:10:24
Starbursts
1:10:25
are
1:10:25
looking
1:10:25
around
1:10:25
like,
1:10:25
who
1:10:26
invited
1:10:26
our
1:10:26
Eminem?
1:10:27
Peanut
1:10:27
Butters
1:10:27
are
1:10:28
here.
1:10:28
We
1:10:28
don't
1:10:28
need
1:10:28
you
1:10:29
anymore.
1:10:29
Well,
1:10:30
you
1:10:30
like
1:10:30
the
1:10:30
M
1:10:31
M's
1:10:31
and,
1:10:31
you
1:10:32
know,
1:10:32
the
1:10:32
fruit.
1:10:33
Did
1:10:33
y'all
1:10:34
forget
1:10:34
to
1:10:34
take
1:10:34
him
1:10:35
off
1:10:35
like
1:10:35
the.
1:10:39
Why
1:10:39
don't
1:10:39
you
1:10:39
go
1:10:40
tell
1:10:40
Capitano
1:10:41
Roer
1:10:42
that
1:10:42
the
1:10:42
milk.
1:10:43
The,
1:10:43
the
1:10:43
Milk
1:10:44
D
1:10:44
showed
1:10:44
up?
1:10:45
Yeah,
1:10:46
exactly.
1:10:46
And
1:10:46
then
1:10:47
I
1:10:47
can
1:10:47
just
1:10:47
see
1:10:47
the
1:10:47
Tootsie
1:10:48
going
1:10:48
home.
1:10:48
Like,
1:10:49
smells
1:10:49
good.
1:10:50
You
1:10:50
know
1:10:50
what?
1:10:51
My
1:10:51
nickname.
1:10:51
No
1:10:51
one
1:10:51
wanted
1:10:52
to
1:10:52
see
1:10:52
this
1:10:52
Tootsie
1:10:53
Roll.
1:10:53
It
1:10:54
just
1:10:54
reminded
1:10:54
me
1:10:55
my
1:10:55
nickname
1:10:55
in
1:10:55
high
1:10:55
school.
1:10:56
Milk
1:10:56
Dud.
1:10:57
Oh,
1:10:58
no.
1:10:59
That
1:11:00
was
1:11:00
from
1:11:00
what
1:11:00
was
1:11:00
in
1:11:00
your
1:11:01
underwear
1:11:01
after
1:11:01
gym
1:11:01
class.
1:11:02
A
1:11:02
candy.
1:11:03
If
1:11:03
you're
1:11:03
using
1:11:03
a
1:11:04
candy
1:11:04
as
1:11:04
an
1:11:04
insult,
1:11:04
that's
1:11:05
just
1:11:05
another
1:11:05
strike.
1:11:06
Because.
1:11:08
That
1:11:08
is
1:11:09
so
1:11:09
Fair.
1:11:10
What
1:11:10
a
1:11:10
great
1:11:10
observation.
1:11:11
If
1:11:11
a
1:11:11
candy's
1:11:12
being
1:11:12
used
1:11:12
as
1:11:12
an
1:11:13
insult.
1:11:14
Yeah.
1:11:14
Your
1:11:14
candy
1:11:15
has
1:11:15
failed.
1:11:16
Yeah.
1:11:16
Yes.
1:11:17
It's
1:11:17
gonna
1:11:18
be,
1:11:18
it's
1:11:18
gonna
1:11:18
be
1:11:18
bottom
1:11:19
shelf
1:11:19
candy.
1:11:19
That's
1:11:20
exactly
1:11:20
like.
1:11:21
No
1:11:21
one's
1:11:21
going,
1:11:21
haha.
1:11:21
Look
1:11:22
at
1:11:22
cotton
1:11:22
candy.
1:11:23
It's
1:11:23
like
1:11:25
that's
1:11:25
what
1:11:25
you.
1:11:26
That's
1:11:26
what
1:11:26
you
1:11:26
try
1:11:26
and
1:11:27
train
1:11:27
your
1:11:27
children
1:11:28
to
1:11:28
not
1:11:28
eat
1:11:28
candy
1:11:29
all
1:11:29
the
1:11:29
time.
1:11:29
It's
1:11:29
like
1:11:30
they
1:11:30
can
1:11:30
only
1:11:30
reach
1:11:30
for
1:11:30
the
1:11:30
milk
1:11:31
duds
1:11:31
at
1:11:31
the
1:11:31
bottom.
1:11:32
That's.
1:11:32
Yeah.
1:11:32
Hot
1:11:33
tamale.
1:11:33
Hot
1:11:33
tamale.
1:11:34
No
1:11:34
one's
1:11:34
going,
1:11:35
look
1:11:35
at
1:11:35
gummy
1:11:35
bear.
1:11:36
It's
1:11:39
like.
1:11:39
That
1:11:39
makes
1:11:40
no
1:11:40
sense.
1:11:41
All
1:11:41
right,
1:11:41
question
1:11:42
number
1:11:42
six.
1:11:42
What
1:11:43
is
1:11:43
one
1:11:43
unusual
1:11:44
talent
1:11:45
or
1:11:45
strange
1:11:46
talent
1:11:46
that
1:11:46
you
1:11:46
have
1:11:46
that
1:11:47
no
1:11:47
one
1:11:47
knows
1:11:47
about
1:11:48
or
1:11:48
that
1:11:48
maybe
1:11:48
some
1:11:49
people
1:11:49
know
1:11:49
about
1:11:49
and
1:11:49
you're
1:11:50
just
1:11:50
telling
1:11:50
us
1:11:50
because
1:11:50
we
1:11:51
didn't
1:11:51
know
1:11:51
about
1:11:51
it?
1:11:54
Let's
1:11:54
see
1:11:55
what's
1:11:55
strange.
1:11:57
You
1:11:57
have
1:11:57
the
1:11:57
talent
1:11:57
to
1:11:58
wrangle
1:11:58
two
1:11:58
knuckleheads.
1:12:04
I
1:12:04
don't
1:12:04
know
1:12:05
if
1:12:05
it's
1:12:05
a.
1:12:07
I
1:12:07
don't
1:12:07
know
1:12:07
if
1:12:07
it's
1:12:07
a
1:12:08
talent,
1:12:10
but
1:12:10
I
1:12:11
used
1:12:11
to
1:12:12
be
1:12:12
really
1:12:12
good
1:12:12
at
1:12:14
telling
1:12:15
different
1:12:15
types
1:12:15
of
1:12:15
ham
1:12:16
apart.
1:12:17
So
1:12:17
like,
1:12:18
I
1:12:18
could
1:12:18
take,
1:12:19
like,
1:12:19
I,
1:12:20
I
1:12:20
could
1:12:20
differentiate
1:12:21
about,
1:12:21
like,
1:12:21
different,
1:12:22
like
1:12:22
about
1:12:22
seven
1:12:23
different
1:12:23
types
1:12:23
of,
1:12:24
like,
1:12:24
hams
1:12:24
from
1:12:24
Honey
1:12:25
Black
1:12:25
Forest
1:12:27
oven
1:12:28
Roasted
1:12:29
charcoal
1:12:29
grill.
1:12:30
Like,
1:12:30
I
1:12:30
could.
1:12:32
It's
1:12:32
a
1:12:32
honey
1:12:32
glazed
1:12:33
ham.
1:12:33
Yep.
1:12:35
That
1:12:35
is
1:12:35
impressive
1:12:36
talent,
1:12:37
I
1:12:37
can
1:12:37
tell
1:12:37
you.
1:12:37
Hot
1:12:38
ham,
1:12:38
cold
1:12:38
ham.
1:12:39
Oh,
1:12:40
there's.
1:12:41
Okay,
1:12:43
one's
1:12:43
in
1:12:43
the
1:12:43
fridge
1:12:43
and
1:12:44
one's.
1:12:44
Coming
1:12:44
out
1:12:44
of
1:12:44
the
1:12:45
oven.
1:12:46
That's.
1:12:47
That
1:12:47
is.
1:12:48
That.
1:12:48
That
1:12:48
is
1:12:49
an
1:12:49
unusual
1:12:50
talent.
1:12:50
I.
1:12:52
That
1:12:52
is.
1:12:53
I'm
1:12:53
gonna
1:12:53
have
1:12:54
to
1:12:54
think
1:12:54
back
1:12:54
on
1:12:54
some
1:12:54
of
1:12:55
the
1:12:55
things
1:12:55
I
1:12:55
can
1:12:55
do.
1:12:55
Ham.
1:12:56
You're
1:12:56
a
1:12:57
fan
1:12:57
of
1:12:57
ham.
1:12:58
I
1:12:58
am.
1:13:00
So.
1:13:00
Okay,
1:13:00
then
1:13:01
this
1:13:01
is,
1:13:01
this
1:13:01
is
1:13:01
a
1:13:02
question.
1:13:02
So
1:13:02
we.
1:13:03
For
1:13:03
dinner
1:13:04
a
1:13:04
couple
1:13:04
nights
1:13:04
ago,
1:13:05
we
1:13:05
had
1:13:05
ham,
1:13:06
but
1:13:06
it
1:13:06
was,
1:13:06
it
1:13:07
was.
1:13:07
It
1:13:07
was
1:13:08
ham
1:13:08
that,
1:13:08
that
1:13:09
we
1:13:09
cooked.
1:13:10
Hamburger,
1:13:11
pineapple.
1:13:13
It
1:13:13
had
1:13:13
pineapple
1:13:14
and
1:13:14
whatnot.
1:13:15
What.
1:13:15
What
1:13:15
typical
1:13:16
type
1:13:16
of
1:13:16
ham
1:13:17
do
1:13:17
you.
1:13:18
Do
1:13:18
you
1:13:18
have
1:13:18
that
1:13:18
has
1:13:19
like
1:13:19
the
1:13:19
pineapple
1:13:20
with
1:13:20
the
1:13:21
sauce
1:13:21
and
1:13:22
the
1:13:23
Christmas.
1:13:23
So
1:13:23
the
1:13:24
brown
1:13:24
sugar
1:13:24
glaze.
1:13:25
Yeah.
1:13:25
That's
1:13:26
usually.
1:13:26
Okay.
1:13:27
Yes.
1:13:27
I
1:13:27
told
1:13:28
you.
1:13:28
I'm.
1:13:29
She
1:13:29
nailed
1:13:30
it
1:13:30
right
1:13:30
off
1:13:30
the
1:13:30
bat.
1:13:33
I
1:13:33
told
1:13:33
you.
1:13:33
I
1:13:33
was.
1:13:34
I
1:13:34
took
1:13:34
my
1:13:34
ham
1:13:35
serious.
1:13:36
Listen,
1:13:37
here
1:13:37
is
1:13:37
with
1:13:38
my
1:13:38
hams,
1:13:39
more
1:13:40
power
1:13:40
to
1:13:40
you.
1:13:41
I'm
1:13:42
a
1:13:42
big
1:13:42
ham
1:13:42
person.
1:13:43
Like,
1:13:43
when
1:13:43
my
1:13:43
family
1:13:43
would
1:13:44
do
1:13:44
Thanksgiving,
1:13:44
they
1:13:44
had
1:13:44
a
1:13:45
turkey.
1:13:45
I'm
1:13:45
like,
1:13:45
I
1:13:45
don't
1:13:45
want
1:13:45
that
1:13:46
dry.
1:13:46
I
1:13:46
want
1:13:46
that
1:13:46
sweet
1:13:47
ham.
1:13:47
I
1:13:47
want
1:13:47
that
1:13:48
ham.
1:13:48
Yes.
1:13:49
Can
1:13:49
we
1:13:49
not
1:13:49
do
1:13:50
turkey?
1:13:50
Just
1:13:50
get
1:13:50
a
1:13:50
ham?
1:13:51
Yeah.
1:13:52
Yes.
1:13:52
Yeah.
1:13:53
All
1:13:53
right.
1:13:54
That's
1:13:55
an
1:13:55
unusual
1:13:55
talent.
1:13:56
That's
1:13:56
good.
1:13:57
That's
1:13:57
look,
1:13:58
there's
1:13:58
a.
1:13:58
There's
1:13:58
been
1:13:58
a
1:13:58
lot
1:13:58
of
1:13:59
firsts
1:13:59
tonight,
1:13:59
that's
1:14:00
for
1:14:00
sure.
1:14:00
When
1:14:01
my
1:14:01
new
1:14:01
job
1:14:01
told
1:14:01
me
1:14:01
that
1:14:02
for
1:14:02
thanks
1:14:02
for
1:14:02
Thanksgiving
1:14:03
and
1:14:03
Christmas,
1:14:04
they'll
1:14:04
give
1:14:04
you
1:14:04
a
1:14:04
ham
1:14:05
for
1:14:05
each
1:14:05
holiday,
1:14:06
that's
1:14:07
what
1:14:07
I
1:14:07
signed.
1:14:08
That's
1:14:08
when
1:14:08
I
1:14:08
signed.
1:14:08
I
1:14:08
said,
1:14:09
I
1:14:09
don't
1:14:09
care
1:14:09
how
1:14:09
much
1:14:10
freehand.
1:14:12
Yeah,
1:14:12
free
1:14:13
ham.
1:14:15
All
1:14:15
right,
1:14:15
the
1:14:16
last
1:14:16
question
1:14:16
is,
1:14:17
if
1:14:17
you
1:14:17
could
1:14:17
have
1:14:18
dinner
1:14:18
with
1:14:18
any
1:14:18
three
1:14:19
people,
1:14:19
dead
1:14:19
or
1:14:19
alive,
1:14:20
who
1:14:20
would
1:14:20
they
1:14:20
be?
1:14:24
Okay,
1:14:24
one
1:14:24
would
1:14:25
definitely
1:14:25
have
1:14:25
to
1:14:25
be
1:14:26
my
1:14:26
great
1:14:26
grandmother
1:14:28
who
1:14:28
raised
1:14:28
my
1:14:28
mommy.
1:14:29
I
1:14:29
never
1:14:29
got
1:14:30
to
1:14:30
meet
1:14:30
her.
1:14:30
She
1:14:30
passed
1:14:31
before
1:14:32
I
1:14:32
got
1:14:33
here,
1:14:34
before
1:14:34
I
1:14:34
got
1:14:34
here,
1:14:34
before
1:14:35
I
1:14:35
landed
1:14:35
on
1:14:35
Earth.
1:14:37
Hey,
1:14:37
look,
1:14:38
I
1:14:38
come
1:14:38
from
1:14:38
a
1:14:38
different
1:14:39
planet,
1:14:39
too,
1:14:39
so.
1:14:39
Before
1:14:40
your
1:14:40
spaceship.
1:14:42
Yes.
1:14:42
My
1:14:43
second
1:14:43
probably
1:14:44
Megan
1:14:45
Thee
1:14:45
Stallion,
1:14:46
because
1:14:46
we
1:14:46
both
1:14:47
love
1:14:47
anime
1:14:48
and
1:14:48
I
1:14:48
do
1:14:49
love
1:14:49
her
1:14:49
rap.
1:14:49
She's
1:14:50
great.
1:14:50
And
1:14:50
I
1:14:50
just
1:14:51
want.
1:14:55
The
1:14:55
hamburglar.
1:14:56
I
1:14:56
have
1:14:56
to
1:14:56
meet
1:14:57
him.
1:15:00
And
1:15:00
let
1:15:01
me
1:15:01
see
1:15:01
my
1:15:01
third
1:15:02
person.
1:15:03
Would
1:15:04
it
1:15:04
probably
1:15:04
be
1:15:05
an
1:15:05
artist?
1:15:05
But
1:15:05
I
1:15:06
feel
1:15:06
weird.
1:15:07
It
1:15:07
feel
1:15:07
like
1:15:07
an
1:15:07
interview.
1:15:08
So
1:15:08
it'd
1:15:08
be
1:15:08
like.
1:15:09
So
1:15:09
your
1:15:10
retrospection
1:15:10
on
1:15:11
color.
1:15:11
Like,
1:15:11
I
1:15:12
said,
1:15:12
it
1:15:12
would
1:15:12
be
1:15:13
fun.
1:15:14
But
1:15:15
probably
1:15:15
Van
1:15:15
Gogh's
1:15:16
sitting
1:15:16
there.
1:15:16
Like,
1:15:16
what?
1:15:22
I
1:15:22
probably
1:15:22
ask
1:15:23
Van
1:15:23
Gogh
1:15:23
be
1:15:23
like,
1:15:23
hey,
1:15:24
bestie,
1:15:25
how
1:15:25
are
1:15:25
you
1:15:25
feeling?
1:15:27
Before
1:15:27
we
1:15:27
start,
1:15:28
like,
1:15:28
how.
1:15:28
Yeah,
1:15:28
how's
1:15:29
everything?
1:15:29
Okay.
1:15:30
He's
1:15:30
like,
1:15:31
my
1:15:31
eyes
1:15:31
are
1:15:31
itchy,
1:15:31
but
1:15:32
other
1:15:32
than
1:15:32
that,
1:15:32
ask
1:15:32
away
1:15:33
what's
1:15:33
going
1:15:33
on?
1:15:36
Yes.
1:15:37
I
1:15:37
would
1:15:37
probably
1:15:38
be
1:15:38
like,
1:15:38
I
1:15:38
got
1:15:39
some
1:15:39
notes.
1:15:39
Not
1:15:40
notes,
1:15:40
but
1:15:40
just
1:15:41
some
1:15:41
questions.
1:15:42
So
1:15:42
starry
1:15:43
night.
1:15:43
I
1:15:44
don't
1:15:44
know.
1:15:44
This
1:15:45
is.
1:15:45
This
1:15:45
is
1:15:45
gonna
1:15:45
sound
1:15:46
awful,
1:15:46
but
1:15:46
I
1:15:46
said
1:15:47
I.
1:15:47
I
1:15:47
imagine
1:15:48
you
1:15:48
added
1:15:48
you.
1:15:48
You
1:15:49
inviting,
1:15:49
like,
1:15:50
Oedipus
1:15:51
and
1:15:51
then
1:15:51
him
1:15:51
trying
1:15:52
to
1:15:52
invite
1:15:52
his
1:15:52
mom.
1:15:53
Was
1:15:53
your
1:15:54
mom
1:15:54
that
1:15:54
good
1:15:54
looking?
1:15:55
I
1:15:55
don't
1:15:56
know
1:15:56
why
1:15:56
that
1:15:56
came
1:15:56
into
1:15:57
my
1:15:57
head.
1:15:58
Yeah,
1:15:58
there's
1:15:59
a
1:15:59
complex
1:15:59
there.
1:16:00
All
1:16:00
right.
1:16:00
Yeah,
1:16:02
those
1:16:02
are.
1:16:03
Those
1:16:03
are
1:16:03
good.
1:16:04
I
1:16:04
think.
1:16:04
I
1:16:04
think
1:16:04
Megan.
1:16:05
Megan
1:16:06
the
1:16:06
Stallion.
1:16:07
Xandra,
1:16:07
turn
1:16:07
the
1:16:08
podcast
1:16:08
off
1:16:09
now.
1:16:12
Here's.
1:16:12
Here's
1:16:13
your.
1:16:13
There's
1:16:14
your.
1:16:14
You
1:16:15
have.
1:16:15
You
1:16:15
have
1:16:16
reached
1:16:16
the
1:16:16
end
1:16:17
of
1:16:17
the
1:16:17
show.
1:16:18
I'm
1:16:18
calling
1:16:19
her
1:16:19
now.
1:16:19
I
1:16:20
just
1:16:20
see
1:16:20
a
1:16:20
big
1:16:20
red
1:16:21
warning.
1:16:21
I'm
1:16:21
like,
1:16:21
oh,
1:16:22
did
1:16:22
I
1:16:22
say
1:16:22
it?
1:16:23
No,
1:16:24
he
1:16:24
just
1:16:24
said.
1:16:24
Yeah,
1:16:25
he
1:16:25
said
1:16:25
it.
1:16:25
Yeah,
1:16:26
yeah,
1:16:26
he
1:16:26
mentioned
1:16:26
it.
1:16:27
Yep.
1:16:27
Run.
1:16:28
Move.
1:16:30
I'm
1:16:30
like,
1:16:30
why
1:16:30
am
1:16:30
I
1:16:31
mute
1:16:31
all
1:16:31
of
1:16:31
a
1:16:31
sudden?
1:16:31
Like,
1:16:32
can
1:16:32
y'all
1:16:32
hear?
1:16:34
Oh,
1:16:34
my
1:16:35
gosh.
1:16:35
That's.
1:16:36
Those
1:16:36
are
1:16:36
good.
1:16:36
Those
1:16:37
are
1:16:37
good.
1:16:37
Those
1:16:37
are
1:16:37
great
1:16:38
answers.
1:16:40
We
1:16:40
have
1:16:41
learned
1:16:41
a
1:16:41
considerable
1:16:42
amount,
1:16:42
and
1:16:43
I
1:16:43
appreciate
1:16:44
you
1:16:44
coming
1:16:44
along
1:16:45
for
1:16:45
the
1:16:45
ride
1:16:45
on
1:16:45
this
1:16:46
one
1:16:46
because
1:16:48
this
1:16:48
was
1:16:48
a
1:16:48
lot
1:16:48
of
1:16:49
fun.
1:16:50
Look,
1:16:51
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1:16:51
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1:16:51
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1:16:51
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1:16:52
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1:16:58
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1:16:59
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1:16:59
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1:16:59
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1:17:00
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1:17:01
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1:17:01
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1:17:02
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1:17:02
lot.
1:17:02
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1:17:03
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1:17:03
I
1:17:04
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1:17:04
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1:17:04
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1:17:05
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1:17:09
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1:17:12
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1:17:13
hope
1:17:13
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1:17:13
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1:17:13
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1:17:13
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1:17:14
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1:17:14
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1:17:14
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1:17:14
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1:17:15
Con
1:17:15
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1:17:15
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1:17:15
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1:17:16
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1:17:16
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1:17:17
know,
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Wilmington
1:17:19
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1:17:19
Myrtle
1:17:20
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1:17:20
You
1:17:20
know,
1:17:21
we've
1:17:21
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1:17:21
a
1:17:21
lot
1:17:21
of.
1:17:22
Them
1:17:22
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1:17:23
doing
1:17:23
conventions
1:17:24
except
1:17:25
for
1:17:25
now
1:17:25
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1:17:25
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1:17:26
Turkey
1:17:26
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1:17:26
and
1:17:27
then
1:17:27
after
1:17:27
Turkey
1:17:28
time
1:17:28
is
1:17:29
Christmas
1:17:30
time
1:17:30
and
1:17:30
then
1:17:31
I
1:17:31
go
1:17:31
hibernate
1:17:31
for
1:17:32
holidays.
1:17:32
I
1:17:32
don't
1:17:33
blame
1:17:33
you.
1:17:33
I
1:17:34
don't
1:17:34
blame
1:17:34
you.
1:17:34
Not
1:17:35
at
1:17:35
all.
1:17:36
All
1:17:36
right,
1:17:37
well
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