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Credlin | 13 August · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kranbland live on Skying's Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up tonight. Labour tries to claim a
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Speaker 2: win on Wager's growth. But you don't have to dig
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Speaker 2: into the numbers too far to realize it's all big
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Speaker 2: money to public servants funding the increase and it's a
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Speaker 2: sorry state about growth, generally poor odd taxpayers again paying
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Speaker 2: the price. The Linda Reynolds Britney Higgins saga goes on
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Speaker 2: again today, Scott Morrison giving evidence in the court remaining
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Speaker 2: Adamans that there was no government cover up full details
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Speaker 2: on that. In a moment blass was it ranking competence
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Speaker 2: or an appright lie? When Labour's Andrew Giles claimed that
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Speaker 2: all the released criminal detainees were on bridging visas, all
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Speaker 2: new information released is brought into question this claim. With
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Speaker 2: over eighty criminals out and about without a visa, and
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Speaker 2: following on from those revelations that ASO is only assessing
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Speaker 2: Palestinian visas on an ad hoc basis either you know
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Speaker 2: when the requests come in from the government. The opposition
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Speaker 2: today rammed up its pressure on Tony Burke to security
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Speaker 2: check every single person who comes to Australia from Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Every single application from the Palestinian territories to come to
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Speaker 3: Australia should be referred to as for assessment. The Department
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Speaker 3: needs to be directed to not approve the visa of
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Speaker 3: any person who can be identified to be as a
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Speaker 3: supporter of a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 2: The first figures out today show that over the past
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Speaker 2: three months, your wages are not keeping up with inflation.
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Speaker 2: That's because the numbers today confirm that wages have gone
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Speaker 2: up by zero point eight percent and that's been outstripped
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Speaker 2: by inflation with its one percent increase in headline CPI.
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Speaker 2: And of course most of those wage increases have been
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Speaker 2: in the public sector as labor. Governments throw money at
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Speaker 2: bureaucrats and people in the so called care economy, including
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Speaker 2: many who work for private profit making companies. And what's
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Speaker 2: becoming clear is that the Albanezer government thinks the way
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Speaker 2: to solve cost of living is for the government to
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Speaker 2: spend more money, even though the government can only spend
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Speaker 2: a dollar on someone that it's taken from someone else.
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Speaker 2: Labor does not get economics, it doesn't get the government
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Speaker 2: only has money, it's taken from taxpayers and spending some
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Speaker 2: taxpayers money on other taxpayers. Well, that's either robbing Peter
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Speaker 2: to pay Paul, or it's a giant merry go round
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Speaker 2: with your money that ultimately helps no one accept the
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Speaker 2: government and it just continues to keep inflation higher than
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Speaker 2: it should be for longer, meaning we pay more at
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Speaker 2: the supermarket, at the bowser, at the pharmacy, everywhere. Today
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Speaker 2: in question Time, the Opposition challenged the government and over
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Speaker 2: its broken promises. The promise to catch a power bill
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Speaker 2: by two hundred and seventy five dollars per household per year,
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Speaker 2: the promise to raise your real wages, the promise to
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Speaker 2: reduce your mortgage all promises that the Prime Minister was
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Speaker 2: never in a position to keep and that the government
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Speaker 2: should never have made.
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Speaker 4: Here's the Opposition leader, Peter Dutton, Prime Minister.
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Speaker 5: Before the election, you promised to cut electricity bills by
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Speaker 5: two undred and seventy five dollars, provide cheaper mortgages and
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Speaker 5: to ensure and I quote, families will be better off
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Speaker 5: on the cost of living. Instead of reducing costs for
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Speaker 5: working families, he's delivered twelve mortgage rate increases, a twenty
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Speaker 5: two percent surge in electricity prices, and food and groceries
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Speaker 5: have jumped by over eleven percent. Why does this tricky
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Speaker 5: Prime minister repeatedly promise one thing and do another.
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Speaker 4: And here's the Prime Minister in response.
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Speaker 6: We delivered chief care, We're delivered cheaper medicines, were delivered
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Speaker 6: fee free tape, which has just been opposed yet again
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Speaker 6: by the of the Opera, and we expanded the single
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Speaker 6: parent payment. I assumed they'll probably oppose the extra two
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Speaker 6: weeks of paid parental leave.
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Speaker 7: And we know as well that.
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Speaker 6: They opposed the fifteen percent pay rise for our childcare workers,
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Speaker 6: for our early educators.
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Speaker 2: Listen to Amy, He just trots out a series of
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Speaker 2: spending measures, even though these are essentially band aids on
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Speaker 2: a bullet wound. The three hundred dollars power Bild subsidy,
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Speaker 2: the fifteen percent pay hike for childcare workers, the fifteen
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Speaker 2: percent pay hike.
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Speaker 4: For age care workers.
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Speaker 2: What the PM doesn't grasp because it's his job to
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Speaker 2: tackle the underlying causes of the problem, not to throw
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Speaker 2: money at them, because that's about the government looking good,
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Speaker 2: not the government doing good. If the Prime Minister wants
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Speaker 2: to help with power bills, it should stop forcing cheap,
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Speaker 2: base low power out of the system in favor of
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Speaker 2: renewables that only work when the weather cooperates. If the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister wants to help with childcare costs, well, it
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Speaker 2: should stop imposing all the rules a force centers to
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Speaker 2: be overstaffed with overqualified workers, and likewise two in aged care.
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Speaker 2: If he wants age care workers to be paid more,
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Speaker 2: it should make it easier for productivity to go up
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Speaker 2: in that sector, rather than directly subsidized wages in ways
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Speaker 2: that will impose permanent burdens on taxpayers or permanent costs
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Speaker 2: on employers.
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Speaker 4: The problem with.
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Speaker 2: Government decreeing that wages in childcare and wages in age
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Speaker 2: care should all increase by fifteen percent without any boost
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Speaker 2: of productivity is that it sets up the demand for
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Speaker 2: everyone else in the so called care economy to also
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Speaker 2: demand fifteen percent from taxpayers. Workers in the NDIS, for instance, Well,
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Speaker 2: that's an entire highly government funded sector. They're now demanding
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Speaker 2: a fifteen percent increase even though their average hourly rates
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Speaker 2: approach fifty dollars an hour. That's what's fundamentally wrong with
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Speaker 2: this government. To every problem that thinks the answer is
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Speaker 2: more regulating more spending, even though the Reserve Bank has
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Speaker 2: made it crystal clear that government spending is exacerbating inflation
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Speaker 2: and that ultimately this is what's making our cost of
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Speaker 2: living worse not better. You look at the poles, You
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Speaker 2: look at the poles, and I tell you Australians are
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Speaker 2: waking up to this con If there was one issue
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister albern Easy put his heart and soul
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Speaker 2: into it was the Voice. Plainly he's never really recovered
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Speaker 2: from its massive defeat. But the Voice wasn't all he
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Speaker 2: was committed to. He was committed to the Uller Statement
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Speaker 2: in full, and that meant not just the Voice, but
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Speaker 2: treaty and truth.
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Speaker 6: And on behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit
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Speaker 6: to the ularu's statement from the heart and home.
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Speaker 2: But the Gama Festival last week, to the immense anger
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Speaker 2: of Indigenous leaders, he walked away from treaty and truth.
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Speaker 5: One of the architects of the ULARUZ statement, Pat Anderson,
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Speaker 5: says that you should be embarking on a truth and
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Speaker 5: justice commission.
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Speaker 1: You're saying it's not that, that's not what you're.
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Speaker 5: Going to do.
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Speaker 8: Well, that's not what we have proposed. What we're proposed
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Speaker 8: is Makarada just being the idea of coming together.
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Speaker 4: So it's talking about.
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Speaker 9: We're engaging.
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Speaker 8: Being here is a starting point.
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Speaker 2: Today in the House of Reps, he was asked about
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Speaker 2: his commitment and to Macarata all the truth telling process.
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Speaker 10: On inside has recently. When asked about establishing a Macarata
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Speaker 10: Commission with responsibility for truth telling, the Prime Minister said, well,
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Speaker 10: that's not what we've proposed. But on election night twenty
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Speaker 10: twenty two, the Prime Minister promised to implement the Urary's
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Speaker 10: statement in full the Voice truth Telling and Treaty, and
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Speaker 10: repeated that promise on more than thirty four occasions. Why
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Speaker 10: does this tricky prime minister repeatedly promise one thing and
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Speaker 10: do another.
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Speaker 2: And okay, I just patted out his arms at a
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Speaker 2: store for time. He fudged it, just like he'd done
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Speaker 2: at Gama.
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Speaker 8: The theme of this year's festival at Gama, which was
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Speaker 8: broadcast even if you weren't there and didn't make the
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Speaker 8: effort anyone the coalition to actually sit down and engage,
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Speaker 8: was strength and renewal, Strength and commitment from First Nations people.
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Speaker 4: Missus speaker, it is.
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Speaker 10: A question of relevance because the question was about the
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister's statements about Macarata and he hasn't mentioned this
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Speaker 10: at all.
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Speaker 8: When I was asked about a statement that I made
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Speaker 8: at the Garma Festival, and I'm talking about the Garma festival.
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Speaker 4: This blogs are charlatan.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can understand whimping out on earlier commitments
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Speaker 2: because voters rejected the whole indigenous separatist agenda, the whole
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Speaker 2: victim mindset pushed by the Prime Minister. But don't trust
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Speaker 2: labor here. Don't trust the Prime Minister when he pretends
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Speaker 2: this is all off the table. What's happening here is
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Speaker 2: that Labour's suffering in the polls. Hence this smoke and
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Speaker 2: mirrors trick, this con to pretend ulru isn't happening. New
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Speaker 2: polling today shows that just thirty four percent support a
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Speaker 2: so called truth telling commission to investigate historical plus supposedly
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Speaker 2: ongoing in justice against Aboriginal people. Hence the PM's attempt
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Speaker 2: to say that he's still committed but till you'll leave
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Speaker 2: it up to the states to make it all happen. Now,
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Speaker 2: I warn you this is a con. There's nearly six
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Speaker 2: million dollars set aside in the budget for Macarata. What's
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Speaker 2: happened to that money? The money is still there, where's
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Speaker 2: it going? What about all the public servants in Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister in Capital, all the work they're doing on a
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Speaker 2: truth telling commission after the election. If they win, this
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Speaker 2: will be front and center. And don't let Labor think
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Speaker 2: they can have it both ways, because they can't. When
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Speaker 2: it comes to voice, treaty and truth. No one should
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Speaker 2: trust the Prime Minister. All right, we'll go to camera.
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Speaker 2: As I said sitting week this week, it's been a
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Speaker 2: hectic day. We'll get the headlines now. Sky News political
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Speaker 2: reporter Tunny Macintosh.
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Speaker 11: The Green's accused of inflaming tension on Gaza here at
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Speaker 11: home another failed Senate motion. The Minor Party were joined
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Speaker 11: by ex Labour senator Fatima Payman in the one sided
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Speaker 11: motion calling for sanctions against the net and Yahoo government
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Speaker 11: and the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador.
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Speaker 12: It's a motion that doesn't mention her mass, that doesn't
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Speaker 12: call for hostages to be released.
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Speaker 13: They are trying to reproduce the conflict here for their
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Speaker 13: own gain.
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Speaker 11: Minister Anne Ali today added her voice to calls by
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Speaker 11: colleague at Husick for the government to be open minded
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Speaker 11: about further sanctions.
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Speaker 9: Look, I think that there is more that we can
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Speaker 9: be doing around what we're how we're responding to the
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Speaker 9: Israeli aggression.
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Speaker 11: Coalition MPs wrote to the Home Affairs Minister today demanding
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Speaker 11: stronger visa checks for people fleeing Gaza. It comes after
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Speaker 11: the ASIO boss revealed a visa wouldn't necessarily be denied
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Speaker 11: if a person had shown just rhetorical support for terror group.
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Speaker 9: He mass even having one additional terrorism supporter in this
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Speaker 9: country makes our country less safe.
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Speaker 11: In question Time, the government talking up the latest wage
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Speaker 11: growth data, with paypackets continuing to outpace inflation. Wages row
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Speaker 11: zero point eight percent in the June quarter, taking annual
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Speaker 11: growth to four point one percent.
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Speaker 14: This is the first time in fifteen years that wages
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Speaker 14: growth has gone four for four, four consecutive quarters of
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Speaker 14: annual nominal wage growth of at least four percent.
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Speaker 11: Meanwhile, Labour's attempt to place the Sea OFFEMU into administration
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Speaker 11: has hit a hurdle. The coalition what the proposed cleanup
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Speaker 11: laws kicked off to an inquiry, while the Greens are
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Speaker 11: also withholding support and former Prime Minister Scott Morrison has
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Speaker 11: given evidence in the Linda Reynolds Britney Higgins defamation trial.
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Speaker 11: Mister Morrison told the court it was clear the rape
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Speaker 11: allegation had been weaponized to attack his government. He also
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Speaker 11: claimed he feared for Linda Reynolds's life during the tumultuous period.
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Speaker 11: Trudy Macintosh, Sky News Canberra, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, telling me now from camera, My colleague Sky News
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Speaker 2: Political editor Andrew Cleannell, will stay with that. Morrison Reynolds issue.
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Speaker 2: The testimony of course by the former prime minister in
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Speaker 2: the Perth Court today. I'm interested in your take on this.
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Speaker 2: I know you've got some information out of discussions in
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Speaker 2: camera about the financial burden this trial has on Senator Reynolds,
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Speaker 2: but i'll get you take two on the prime minister's comments.
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Speaker 2: Are former prime minister's comments in Perth?
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Speaker 1: Well, he said there was no political cover up and
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Speaker 1: that was what Justice Lee found in a civil case.
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Speaker 1: I guess so he would have been a feeling on
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Speaker 1: firm ground saying that. Other than that, I guess he
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Speaker 1: did have a spirited defense of Linda Reynolds. He expressed
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Speaker 1: some sympathy about her situation I'm not sure that was
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Speaker 1: always the case when that scandal was unfolding, but it
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Speaker 1: certainly was in his evidence today, so she would be
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Speaker 1: happy with his evidence. It's quite extraordinary what she said
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Speaker 1: to the Coalition party room and I revealed today, Peter,
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Speaker 1: and that is that she's going to lose her house
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Speaker 1: over it. I think she actually has a house in
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Speaker 1: Camera and a house in Perth, so at least you'll
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Speaker 1: have one house. But it's going to cost that much.
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Speaker 1: And she told the party room win, lose or draw,
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Speaker 1: but she said she had to do it for herself
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Speaker 1: and her family and her reputation. Linda Reynold's basically telling
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Speaker 1: her colleagues she doesn't want to hurt the coalition's re
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Speaker 1: election prospects by dredging all this up, but really outlining
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Speaker 1: the toll that this whole affair has had on her.
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Speaker 1: I think that she has a view that she did
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Speaker 1: everything she possibly could for Brittney Higgins, including respecting her
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Speaker 1: confidence when she decided initially not to come forward with
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Speaker 1: an allegation to police. And you know, she feels like
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Speaker 1: she was thrown under a bus that you know, she
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Speaker 1: was stoking. She was made to be a villain when
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Speaker 1: she wasn't.
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Speaker 2: And I think the problem was and now forever cow
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Speaker 2: which she admits, which she admits, and they got out
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Speaker 2: obviously leaked out of her office. I think they really
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Speaker 2: damaged her at the time, and that enable the pylon
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Speaker 2: and I think fed the the lines put around by
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Speaker 2: supporters of Higgins, and somehow she was up to rivals
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Speaker 2: in it. I think we can see out of the
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Speaker 2: lead trial and see out of her evidence, Linda Reynolds
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Speaker 2: evidence in this case that there's a lot more to
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Speaker 2: this and I think people probably tonight are a little
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Speaker 2: bit more sympathetic towards Linda Reynolds.
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Speaker 4: Let's go to these issues in Canberra. We've got the.
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Speaker 2: Wage data out today, zero point eight percent growth in
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Speaker 2: wages in June. Inflation, of course is more over that period,
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Speaker 2: which is why inflation is going up. The cost of
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Speaker 2: things are going up, but our salary is and keeping pace.
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Speaker 2: Two issues here, I think for the government. One anemic
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Speaker 2: wage growth is a worry. But what's driving even the
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Speaker 2: anemic growth is an increase in public sector wages. It's
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Speaker 2: not private sector wages. And of course this money to
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Speaker 2: childcare workers is again government money going into the system
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Speaker 2: that money, when you give it to low income or
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Speaker 2: middle income urders, ends up being spent, so has an
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Speaker 2: inflationary kick.
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Speaker 4: And this war that's going on, this.
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Speaker 2: Staush between the government of the RBA governor about whether
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Speaker 2: or not government spending is exacerbating inflation. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: think Jim Chalmers thinks because he appointed Michelle Bullock, he
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Speaker 2: somehow owned her.
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Speaker 4: But it'd be stupid to have that view.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he has that view anymore after last week, so,
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Speaker 1: I mean, she kind of put her foot down, didn't she.
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Speaker 1: So there's definitely tension there. They have to work together,
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Speaker 1: but ultimately there's going to be blame shifting because it's
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Speaker 1: the number one economic issue for people right now, and
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Speaker 1: you either blame the Reserve Bank or you blame the government.
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Speaker 1: So it's in the interests of both sides to blame
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Speaker 1: each other. And that's where what leads to a pretty
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Speaker 1: messy situation. Both sides will be hoping there are other
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Speaker 1: conditions for a rate cut early in the new year,
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Speaker 1: in which case some of the heat will be taken
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Speaker 1: out of that tense relationship. I mean, for an assistant
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Speaker 1: governor and Sarah Hunter last week to tell apart momentary committee,
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Speaker 1: the economy is too hot. When growth was zero point
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Speaker 1: one percent for the quarter, I found quite puzzling. In
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Speaker 1: terms of the wage growth, well, it's more than inflation
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Speaker 1: when you say it's anemic. It might have been lower
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Speaker 1: than inflation last year, but you know, I think the
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Speaker 1: Reserve Bank would want to see that temperate, a bit,
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Speaker 1: come down, a bit, have the slow down so inflation
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Speaker 1: can come down as well. Because more money people have
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Speaker 1: in their pockets, the more they spend, Inflation never comes down.
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Speaker 2: It's more than inflation if you look at it over
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Speaker 2: the year, but it's not more than inflation if you
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Speaker 2: look it over the last quarter, over the last three months,
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Speaker 2: it actually isn't higher than inflation.
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Speaker 4: It's point eight on wages.
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Speaker 2: It's one percent on inflation, which is why things feel
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Speaker 2: more expensive at the checkout because your seal is not
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Speaker 2: keeping pace.
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Speaker 4: I give it to you.
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Speaker 2: Over the over the year, yes, but not not in
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Speaker 2: the last three months. I think that's where people are
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Speaker 2: binding and of course as power bills, what we.
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Speaker 1: Know that unfortunately, that's what has to flowing through, that's
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Speaker 1: what has to happen. I mean, that's why we had
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Speaker 1: a price of incomes according to if you don't have
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Speaker 1: wage growth, come down a bit. And Mattez Corman got
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Speaker 1: slayd over this for saying it's a deliberate design feature
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Speaker 1: in one interview to have sort of low wage growth,
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Speaker 1: but you need it otherwise. Yeah, you never get down
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Speaker 1: to between that two and three percent inflation.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the issue of the Greens, this pro
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Speaker 2: Palestine motion that failed today. I'm in no surprises Fatoma
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Speaker 2: payment voted with the Greens.
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Speaker 4: This is all.
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Speaker 2: Expected, yes, but happening at a time with increasing pressure
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Speaker 2: on labor. A confirmation that Tony Burke will now face
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Speaker 2: a Muslim vote candidate, a GP, a prominent local GP,
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Speaker 2: Azaid bassoon Ye. He announced his candidacy and he had
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Speaker 2: this to say today.
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Speaker 15: It's a long term project. It will happen. We will
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Speaker 15: continue to hold your accountable. We cannot just be treated
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Speaker 15: that way. Please, you need to listen to us. If
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Speaker 15: you don't, we will come ask you.
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Speaker 2: The long term project he talks about, there is the
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Speaker 2: strength of the Muslim community voice to power and he
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Speaker 2: would hope seats in the government or seats certainly in
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Speaker 2: the Parliament. Dennis Shanahan said last night he reckons. Labor's
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Speaker 2: really spooked here. I'd argue this is why Burk's now
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Speaker 2: in that portfolio and the visas are being handed out.
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Speaker 2: Labor people on the right are telling me they are
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Speaker 2: concerned about the president here.
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Speaker 4: Do you think we're going to see more of these candidates, Andrew?
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Speaker 2: And how do you think this is playing out in
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Speaker 2: terms of Labour's numbers and preference flows in Western Sydney
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Speaker 2: in particular.
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Well, it distracts the distracts the Labor Party from contests
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Speaker 1: against the liberals. It's basically a reverse to your situation.
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Speaker 1: But what happens here depends entirely on liberal preferences whether
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Speaker 1: they can win these seats. Otherwise they can't. They're just
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Speaker 1: more a real annoyance. And I guess yeah, they can
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Speaker 1: have a direct effect on policy when you've got a
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Speaker 1: couple of senior ministers, three senior ministers affected with large
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Speaker 1: Muslim populations, and one of them is the Home Affairs minister.
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Speaker 1: Policies only it's not going to go in the other direction,
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Speaker 1: is it. It's going to go in one direction. So,
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Speaker 1: having said that, Tony Burke, if he gives away too
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Speaker 1: many of these visas, he's going to get a lot
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Speaker 1: of scrutiny, so he's got to weigh that up as well.
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Speaker 1: I just think it's strange that these were visited visas
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Speaker 1: in the first place. I mean, why I call them
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Speaker 1: visit of visus. We know they're not visited visas. It's
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Speaker 1: like a backdoor way of bringing people in here. Let
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Speaker 1: them get to Egypt and process them as refugees or
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Speaker 1: as John Howard did on occasion, have a safe haven system.
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Speaker 1: Either one of those roots if you want to evacuate
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Speaker 1: people from a place that's been absolutely decimated, allows you
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Speaker 1: to do stronger and longer checks, and for our national
20:50
Speaker 1: security that's very important.
20:54
Speaker 2: Going to agree more, but they scrapped the temporary protection
20:57
Speaker 2: VIAS assistant that is gone, and I argue that they'd
21:01
Speaker 2: put them in under visit a Visa class to avoid
21:03
Speaker 2: the scrutiny of people like you Andrew. Now they've been
21:06
Speaker 2: found out and they're doing this dance to pretend they're
21:09
Speaker 2: making visit of visas permanent. And I think they got
21:13
Speaker 2: hell to pate when it comes to security checks. But
21:15
Speaker 2: we'll watch that one closely.
21:16
Speaker 4: Thanks well.
21:17
Speaker 1: It will only take right, It'll only take one incident
21:20
Speaker 1: with someone who's led in to be a massive problem
21:23
Speaker 1: for the government. That's all I'll say. There might be
21:24
Speaker 1: plenty of people who will be good citizens of Australia,
21:28
Speaker 1: but you only need one or two bad eggs to
21:30
Speaker 1: become a political.
21:31
Speaker 2: Problem for the government, as we saw with the whole
21:35
Speaker 2: Ministerial Direction ninety nine, which I'm going to get into
21:37
Speaker 2: right now.
21:38
Speaker 4: Thanks Andrew.
21:40
Speaker 2: He might have reshuffled his front bench, but the problems
21:42
Speaker 2: in relation to that ministerial direction and the incompetence of
21:45
Speaker 2: Andrew Giles have not gone away for the government. It
21:48
Speaker 2: hangs over the Immigration Portfolio. Revelations today that at least
21:53
Speaker 2: eighty three dangerous individuals were released and living in the
21:56
Speaker 2: community as unlawful non citizens before they were see bridging visas. Now,
22:01
Speaker 2: what makes this all worse is that Giles was actually
22:05
Speaker 2: asked about this in the Parliament last November.
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Speaker 4: This is what he said.
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Speaker 11: I can confirm that all of those individuals required to
22:14
Speaker 11: be released as a result of the.
22:16
Speaker 14: Decision of the High Court on bridging visas with appropriate conditions.
22:22
Speaker 2: Joining me now, Immigration Shadow Minister Dan teen well, thank
22:26
Speaker 2: you for your time, Dan. November last year, he says
22:30
Speaker 2: in the House, these individuals were all on bridging visas.
22:34
Speaker 2: But we know because of an foy from you this
22:38
Speaker 2: wasn't the case, Meaning he has misled the parliament surely,
22:42
Speaker 2: Now how I was there years ago. Now you got
22:46
Speaker 2: sacked or you certainly resigned when you misled the parliament.
22:49
Speaker 2: So what's happening with this?
22:53
Speaker 9: Well, Prime Minister Anthony Alberanizi, who said that he was
22:56
Speaker 9: going to run a better parliament and people would be
23:00
Speaker 9: held to account, basically has sat there and done absolutely nothing,
23:06
Speaker 9: even though it is as clear as day that Andrew
23:09
Speaker 9: Giles misled the parliament. The FOI documents make that undisputable.
23:16
Speaker 9: And yet Anthony Albanezi has a code of conduct which
23:19
Speaker 9: says that ministers must be truthful in the parliament. As
23:24
Speaker 9: that clip shows, there is just no way known what
23:27
Speaker 9: Andrew Giles said or could have said is truthful. So
23:32
Speaker 9: basically the Prime Minister is allowing someone to be a
23:36
Speaker 9: minister to sit on his front bench who has misled
23:39
Speaker 9: the parliament, going against his own code of conduct. I
23:43
Speaker 9: think this says a lot about the Prime Minister.
23:47
Speaker 2: Well Tony Burke hasn't got his head around the mistakes.
23:50
Speaker 2: If he's a predecessor or his head around the portfolio.
23:53
Speaker 2: He was pushed on this today, he was asked questions
23:55
Speaker 2: about why this was happening. He couldn't explain them. What
23:59
Speaker 2: does Burke need to do now to fix this mess?
24:03
Speaker 9: Well, the first thing Tony Burke needs to do is
24:06
Speaker 9: admit that Andrew Giles made a mistake which put the
24:11
Speaker 9: safety of the Australian people at risk. You've got to
24:14
Speaker 9: remember that these eighty three detainees are hardened criminals, most
24:20
Speaker 9: of them including murderers, sex offenders, child sex offenders. So
24:24
Speaker 9: these are the people who were roaming around our streets
24:28
Speaker 9: with no visas and no visa conditions. So the first
24:31
Speaker 9: thing he should admit is that this was a catastrophic mistake,
24:36
Speaker 9: and then he should make a commitment to the Australian
24:39
Speaker 9: people that this won't happen again. Now, the fact that
24:42
Speaker 9: he won't even admit that what Andrew Giles did was wrong,
24:47
Speaker 9: that Andrewjoles misled the Australian Parliament about what he said
24:52
Speaker 9: he'd done and what he'd actually done, shows that Tony
24:55
Speaker 9: Burke it's going to be more of the same from
24:57
Speaker 9: him and Peter. You will remember his wreck and most
25:00
Speaker 9: Australians who are remember his record. He was a minister
25:04
Speaker 9: for eighty days. Eighty three boats landed in that time.
25:09
Speaker 9: That was six thousand and six hundred people that were
25:13
Speaker 9: on those boats. That's his record and as a result,
25:17
Speaker 9: many children were locked up. That is Tony Burk's record.
25:23
Speaker 9: And there was the start he's got off to shows
25:26
Speaker 9: that he's learnt nothing.
25:30
Speaker 4: You got to love Laby.
25:31
Speaker 2: You know, they can apologize for stuff that happened two
25:33
Speaker 2: or three centuries ago or the last couple of decades,
25:35
Speaker 2: but they hate to apologize for anything that is their
25:38
Speaker 2: direct responsibility now and affecting Australians. Now, I've got to
25:43
Speaker 2: ask you about why b f Z we don't know
25:48
Speaker 2: this bloke's name. That's the only details we get. It's
25:50
Speaker 2: a High court case. This is another detainee. This is
25:54
Speaker 2: a dangerous detainee challenging the conditions of his visa that
25:58
Speaker 2: include a curfew and ankle monitoring. Now, at least this time,
26:03
Speaker 2: our Solicitor General is saying that this man should be
26:06
Speaker 2: subject to strict conditions. But if the Government loses the case,
26:10
Speaker 2: these safety measures, am I right could be lifted. Will
26:14
Speaker 2: that affect this bloke alone? Or will it then run
26:17
Speaker 2: across others with similar security conditions.
26:24
Speaker 4: Well, it's if.
26:25
Speaker 9: The government loses, then there is the potential that this
26:29
Speaker 9: could impact others. Now, obviously this matter is before the court,
26:34
Speaker 9: so I don't really want to go into too much
26:37
Speaker 9: details as to what may or may not happen, but
26:40
Speaker 9: needless to say that when the High Court last considered
26:45
Speaker 9: a matter, as we've seen with Andrew Giles, the government
26:49
Speaker 9: was caught completely flat footed release people into the community,
26:54
Speaker 9: many of them hardened criminals, without putting appropriate visas and
26:58
Speaker 9: conditions in place. Let us hope that Tony Burke has
27:02
Speaker 9: learned that lesson that he's actually has his department preparing
27:07
Speaker 9: for whether the government either wins or loses this case
27:12
Speaker 9: and whatever the eventuality, that he is prepared for it.
27:16
Speaker 9: Now if he's not, he has learned absolutely nothing. So
27:20
Speaker 9: that is our hope that that is what Tony Burke
27:23
Speaker 9: is doing. But my worry with Tony Burke is that
27:27
Speaker 9: he's more interested in his own electorate and what he's
27:30
Speaker 9: going on there and making decisions which he thinks will
27:34
Speaker 9: get him re elected, rather than taking decisions in the
27:38
Speaker 9: national interest. So time will tell, but let's hope that
27:42
Speaker 9: that's what Tony Burke is doing.
27:46
Speaker 2: So how you're referring to there, Danteen, you're referring to visas.
27:50
Speaker 2: I would regard this as visa for votes. Let's go
27:53
Speaker 2: to the point made by the AZO chief Mike Burgers.
27:57
Speaker 4: They are not doing a security check on everyone.
28:00
Speaker 2: He says, we're doing a security check only on those
28:03
Speaker 2: people refer to us from Home Affairs. Now, I want
28:06
Speaker 2: to know how many referrals have gone across to ASIO.
28:11
Speaker 2: Are we talking about a very small percentage? Because that's
28:13
Speaker 2: what I'm being told on background out of Canberra, is
28:17
Speaker 2: that the concern that.
28:19
Speaker 4: It's tip of the iceberg stuff we're looking at.
28:23
Speaker 9: Well, that's one of the concerns and the government should
28:27
Speaker 9: come clean and Tony Burke should come clean on this
28:30
Speaker 9: as well. As a matter of fact, I think with
28:33
Speaker 9: issues like this that Tony Burke is so compromised that
28:38
Speaker 9: you almost need someone else appointed to do this, because
28:43
Speaker 9: it would be impossible for Tony Burke not to look
28:46
Speaker 9: at this issue other than through the lens that he
28:49
Speaker 9: wants to be elected at the next election. And I think, Dan,
28:52
Speaker 9: can I just jump in there?
28:53
Speaker 2: Can I just jump in there? We're not going to
28:56
Speaker 2: get answers on this until we get to estimates in November.
29:00
Speaker 2: That's my great concern, and because not answering your questions
29:03
Speaker 2: in the Parliament, So by November we could have let
29:07
Speaker 2: thousands of these guardans in and we might find that
29:10
Speaker 2: there were only ten percent of them subject to a
29:13
Speaker 2: security check.
29:14
Speaker 4: That's the concern.
29:17
Speaker 9: That is the concern, and it is a real concern,
29:21
Speaker 9: especially when we know that in the first instance they
29:24
Speaker 9: gave them tourist visas and did security checks in twenty
29:29
Speaker 9: four hours, which is obviously it is just impossible to
29:33
Speaker 9: do security checks in that time. And that's why the
29:37
Speaker 9: Prime Minister should be looking at this seriously and saying
29:42
Speaker 9: this is of real concern to national security. And I
29:47
Speaker 9: don't think my Home Affairs Minister can really independently look
29:51
Speaker 9: at this issue, and I think on this he should
29:54
Speaker 9: be saying to Tony Burke, you need to step aside
29:56
Speaker 9: when it comes to considering this issue, because otherwise you're right,
30:00
Speaker 9: come November it could be all too late for us
30:03
Speaker 9: to be able to reverse the decisions that have been
30:06
Speaker 9: made under Tony Burke on this issue.
30:10
Speaker 4: Keep going down.
30:11
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the one thing in the last few
30:13
Speaker 2: weeks that I have been inundated with concern from viewers
30:16
Speaker 2: about this has touched a nerve and I think Labour
30:19
Speaker 2: know it. Thank you for your time. Just as an
30:22
Speaker 2: aside to people understand at home, a twenty four hour
30:24
Speaker 2: security check is absolutely meaningless. The paper comes from the
30:29
Speaker 2: Palestinian authorities, if there's any identity papers at all. As
30:33
Speaker 2: an example, when I got a security check for the
30:35
Speaker 2: Prime Minister's office, it was something like four months long. Now,
30:40
Speaker 2: obviously that's at a much higher level, but I wasn't
30:42
Speaker 2: also coming from a terror zone.
30:44
Speaker 4: Look at that right after the break.
30:46
Speaker 2: The real cost of government inflating wages, the taxpayers on
30:50
Speaker 2: the hook as Labour's uses your money to shore up
30:53
Speaker 2: the unions and buy votes past the government's pushed for
30:57
Speaker 2: a digital ID. We've seen plenty of botch initiatives in
31:00
Speaker 2: this space, so can the government be trusted?
31:09
Speaker 4: Welcome back.
31:09
Speaker 2: Still to come, we'll have an exclusive look at the
31:11
Speaker 2: battle for Tony Burke's seat of Watson as Burke is
31:15
Speaker 2: on camera revealing how concerned he is by the Muslim
31:19
Speaker 2: vote movement. That's a Jonathan Lee exclusive. But wages. You
31:24
Speaker 2: heard me discuss it with Andrew Clanello. I don't begrudge
31:26
Speaker 2: anyone getting a pay rise, but we're seeing taxpayers on
31:30
Speaker 2: the hook to prop up both public and private sector wages.
31:35
Speaker 2: Three and a half billion of your money on a
31:37
Speaker 2: massive wage hike for those privately employed childcare workers. It
31:42
Speaker 2: was only last year the government spent eleven billion dollars
31:45
Speaker 2: increasing the wages of privately employed age care workers. And
31:50
Speaker 2: back in the Gillard years they gave disability workers. Again
31:53
Speaker 2: not employed by taxpayers. These are private workers. Are whopping
31:58
Speaker 2: twenty three percent way increase? Do you want to be
32:01
Speaker 2: now to discuss this and more? Paul and Hansen's chief
32:04
Speaker 2: of staff James Ashby, and Liberal Senator alexantik Well.
32:09
Speaker 4: James explain this to me. Why on earth are.
32:13
Speaker 2: Tax payers paying for the wages of employees that are
32:18
Speaker 2: not government employees. These are for profit private sector employees.
32:25
Speaker 2: This is buying off the unions, is it? And it's
32:28
Speaker 2: an attempt to buy votes, Yeah.
32:32
Speaker 15: It is.
32:33
Speaker 16: Some of these areas, like childcare, are some of the
32:36
Speaker 16: lowest paid workers in the country. However, it is not
32:40
Speaker 16: up to the government to set the wages for some
32:44
Speaker 16: of these staff. The other thing that I get quite
32:46
Speaker 16: disgruddled with is the fact that while they're giving the increases,
32:51
Speaker 16: they're not moving the threshold on payroll tax either. So
32:55
Speaker 16: a lot of these businesses not only are they forced
32:58
Speaker 16: to them play higher wages, but a lot of and
33:00
Speaker 16: then start to enter the payroll tax bracket or increase
33:03
Speaker 16: their payroll tax obligations. And as we know here in Queensland,
33:07
Speaker 16: it's a sinister tax which is designed to hurt businesses
33:10
Speaker 16: for employing more people and paying them more. And I
33:14
Speaker 16: think a lot of the time if we got rid
33:15
Speaker 16: of this hideous tax across the country it's a state
33:18
Speaker 16: im post tax, you'd probably find that bosses were more
33:21
Speaker 16: inclined to give their workers a pay increase anyway. So
33:24
Speaker 16: I think government have just got to get out of
33:26
Speaker 16: the way. Let the market set this, not the Albanezi
33:30
Speaker 16: government for the sake of buying votes and appeasing their
33:32
Speaker 16: union masters.
33:35
Speaker 4: Alexandtique.
33:36
Speaker 2: This push for a digital ID announced by Bill Shorten,
33:40
Speaker 2: we're told it will happen at the end of the year.
33:43
Speaker 2: I remember that COVID app that came out from the
33:45
Speaker 2: Morrison government cost us about seventy million, had about two
33:49
Speaker 2: men and a dog.
33:50
Speaker 4: Take it up.
33:50
Speaker 2: It was an absolute shocker. I'm not so confident the
33:55
Speaker 2: government's going to get this right. I'm worried about my information.
33:59
Speaker 2: What do you think?
34:02
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, pet, you should be worried about your information.
34:04
Speaker 12: We all should be. I mean, there's a number of
34:06
Speaker 12: different layers to this. The first one is this Digital
34:10
Speaker 12: id Act that was passed earlier in the year is
34:13
Speaker 12: setting up the framework for a digital surveillance state in
34:16
Speaker 12: this country. And it wasn't that long ago in the
34:18
Speaker 12: eighties when people were marching the streets about the Australia Card. Well,
34:22
Speaker 12: we've now seen the Australia Card in digital form on
34:24
Speaker 12: steroids roll out, and many of us who opposed that
34:27
Speaker 12: bill going through made the warning that this would become
34:32
Speaker 12: mandatory very quickly. I mean the access it doesn't, but
34:34
Speaker 12: this will creep into our everyday lives. And within months
34:38
Speaker 12: the alban Easy government is rolling out a new version
34:40
Speaker 12: of the same thing. So that's the first thing people
34:43
Speaker 12: being tracked is the first thing. The second thing I'd
34:44
Speaker 12: say is I have no confidence in governments being able
34:49
Speaker 12: to keep our data safe. I mean, the private sector
34:51
Speaker 12: struggles enough. We've seen numerous data breaches over the private sector,
34:54
Speaker 12: and we've seen numerous on Parliament House hacks and all sorts.
34:58
Speaker 12: So this is a massive honeypot of data that will
35:00
Speaker 12: be built for hackers who will just go to this
35:03
Speaker 12: like moths to a flame. This is a really bad idea.
35:06
Speaker 12: That's why I've introduced a Digital ID Repeal Bill into
35:10
Speaker 12: the Senate and it's been co sponsored by a number
35:12
Speaker 12: of other senators Can Van Babbitt and others, and Robert
35:15
Speaker 12: van Hanson, I should say, and this is bad law
35:18
Speaker 12: and we are walking into a digital surveillance state trap.
35:21
Speaker 4: In this country, James.
35:25
Speaker 2: The Federal Governments released its new Federal Science objective.
35:29
Speaker 4: This is for the curriculum.
35:31
Speaker 2: They want science to have quote an indigenous outlook.
35:36
Speaker 4: What the heck's this mean? Yeah, good question.
35:40
Speaker 16: It's sets a very dangerous president here because ucas as
35:43
Speaker 16: we know, was designed to be an intelligence and defense
35:48
Speaker 16: strategy with the US and the UK and Australia to
35:52
Speaker 16: protect the Indo Pacific region. Got nothing to do with
35:55
Speaker 16: indigenous people. I don't think they've got any expertise in
35:59
Speaker 16: these unless they've been raised up through the ranks. They've
36:02
Speaker 16: worked their way through the ranks in that department. But
36:04
Speaker 16: apart from that, we shouldn't be consulting with anybody apart
36:07
Speaker 16: from those within defense, certainly not indigenous people. They've got
36:11
Speaker 16: no saying this again, it's Labor trying to slowly but
36:16
Speaker 16: surely implement that voice to Parliament. They thought they were
36:19
Speaker 16: going to get through last October.
36:23
Speaker 2: Not wrong, Hey, Alex, I suspect you'll getting the same
36:27
Speaker 2: messages I'm getting from religious and faith leaders really angry
36:31
Speaker 2: today that the government has now dropped their election promise
36:34
Speaker 2: to protect religious freedom. I mean this goes all the
36:37
Speaker 2: way back to Malcolm Turnbull in the same sex marriage
36:40
Speaker 2: debate saying if there is a change the same sex
36:43
Speaker 2: marriage in this country, we would protect from discrimination anyone
36:48
Speaker 2: who disagrees as a matter of faith. The laws weren't
36:51
Speaker 2: done by him or Scott Morrison and now neither by
36:54
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister.
36:58
Speaker 4: Yeah.
36:58
Speaker 12: Look absolutely, and people are worried. The faith based communities
37:02
Speaker 12: are concerned by this and they should be. This has
37:04
Speaker 12: been a bizarre episode where the Albanezy government started talking
37:08
Speaker 12: about this bill and it wouldn't talk to its own
37:10
Speaker 12: caucus about it. Then it I think had non disclosure
37:14
Speaker 12: agreements and it wouldn't allow the bill to be discussed
37:16
Speaker 12: with faith leaders and then it pulled it, and we
37:19
Speaker 12: hear it's reported from the Prime Minister today that one
37:22
Speaker 12: of the reasons why it was pulled was he didn't
37:23
Speaker 12: want to have a divisive debate about religion, just sort
37:27
Speaker 12: of less than twelve months after he was prepared to
37:29
Speaker 12: have a massive divisive debate over the Voice referendum. So
37:33
Speaker 12: it doesn't make any sense when you look at it
37:35
Speaker 12: through the prism though of this kind of push towards
37:40
Speaker 12: pushing against churches and faith based organizations. We see that
37:43
Speaker 12: through the proposed amendments of the Secret Discrimination Act to
37:48
Speaker 12: remove the ability for schools to hire and fire based
37:51
Speaker 12: on people's views in their own institutions. It becomes more clear.
37:54
Speaker 12: But the Albanezy government has to sort this out quickly
37:57
Speaker 12: because there is trouble in the ranks with the communities.
38:00
Speaker 3: I can tell you.
38:03
Speaker 2: Gentlemen, thank you. I'll tell my viewers at home. James
38:06
Speaker 2: reminded me in the break. To get a weapons check
38:09
Speaker 2: in Queensland it takes around six months. But to come
38:13
Speaker 2: to Australia from Gaza, you're lucky if it's more than
38:16
Speaker 2: twenty four.
38:16
Speaker 4: Hours to check you out.
38:18
Speaker 2: A huge response to last night to my interview on
38:20
Speaker 2: intravenous fluid shortages. We've put a lot of questions into
38:24
Speaker 2: the Minister's office as well as the TGA.
38:26
Speaker 4: We've got some answers back.
38:29
Speaker 2: Some of those answers, well, maybe want to ask more questions.
38:33
Speaker 2: I'll get you a comprehensive answer tomorrow night after the break.
38:37
Speaker 2: Pressure is clearly mounting on Tiny Burke as the Muslim
38:40
Speaker 2: vote gathers momentum. I'll have some exclusive content for you
38:44
Speaker 2: ahead of John O Lee's special investigation later on tonight. Plus,
38:48
Speaker 2: I tell you what Kamala harris Is running mate. He
38:52
Speaker 2: is in trouble over his military record. Coming up Kamala
39:01
Speaker 2: Harris's running mate Tim Waltz and claims of stolen valor
39:06
Speaker 2: dominating headlines in the US. But first, and as she
39:09
Speaker 2: was spoken about many times on the show, the growing
39:11
Speaker 2: push by Muslim activists to flex their political muscle in
39:15
Speaker 2: upcoming elections. We've seen it in Britain, It's now gaining
39:19
Speaker 2: momentum in Australia. We saw today the formal announcement of
39:22
Speaker 2: Western Sydney doctor Zaien Barsunyi as Muslim votes candidate in
39:27
Speaker 2: Tony Burke's seat of Watson at the next election. It's
39:29
Speaker 2: also the subject of a Sky News investigation, Clash of
39:33
Speaker 2: Faiths the Fight for Muslim Votes, spreading tonight at seven
39:37
Speaker 2: point thirty pm, the reporter behind the documentary, The Wonderful,
39:40
Speaker 2: Jonathan Lee, joins me. Now, John, I thank you for
39:43
Speaker 2: your time. A terrific, timely investigation. You sat down with
39:48
Speaker 2: Tony Burke. He's got a twenty five percent Muslim population
39:52
Speaker 2: in his seat.
39:52
Speaker 4: Over half that electorate is foreign born foreign born.
39:57
Speaker 2: What did he have to say about the Muslim vote
39:59
Speaker 2: movement and how do you think, Well, how does he
40:01
Speaker 2: think it's going to change how he campaigns at the
40:04
Speaker 2: next election.
40:06
Speaker 17: Well, Peter, good evening to you, and thank you for
40:08
Speaker 17: having me on. Very rarely does it actually feel like
40:11
Speaker 17: you're investigating a story when you're right in the middle
40:14
Speaker 17: of it, which is what we're doing right now. I
40:16
Speaker 17: think we've spoken to thirteen or fourteen people, and the
40:19
Speaker 17: fury out there in the community on all sides is extraordinary.
40:24
Speaker 17: You talk there about Tony Burke and the percentage of
40:26
Speaker 17: Muslims within his community or those who effectively can vote,
40:32
Speaker 17: it is enough to rattle him. He's deeply concerned about
40:36
Speaker 17: what it's going to mean, he made a very good
40:38
Speaker 17: point to us about how his community gets access to
40:42
Speaker 17: the media and how they stay informed. And once you
40:46
Speaker 17: start to get an appreciation for that, you realize why
40:49
Speaker 17: there is such a movement growing. Have a listen to
40:51
Speaker 17: this and it'll start to put it into context.
40:55
Speaker 18: So for the rest of Australia, whether you're up to
40:58
Speaker 18: date largely depends on what something to you. I'm on
41:01
Speaker 18: the same WhatsApp groups as a whole lot of my community.
41:04
Speaker 18: We will get photos from on the ground every day.
41:10
Speaker 18: There'll be new videos, they'll be new images. I do
41:14
Speaker 18: not want to begin to think of the numbers of
41:17
Speaker 18: dead children that I've had depicted on my phone since
41:21
Speaker 18: October of last year. Those images hitting people again and
41:25
Speaker 18: again and again every day. It's a very different lived
41:30
Speaker 18: experience to the rest of the country.
41:33
Speaker 17: You put that into context when you start to understand
41:34
Speaker 17: what is happening in Gaza and the Middle East. The
41:38
Speaker 17: forrough percentage of Muslims in Australia's population is three percent
41:41
Speaker 17: around a million people. But you look at as you say,
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Speaker 17: Tony Burk's seat, twenty five percent of his electorate is
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Speaker 17: Islamic or Muslim. Jason Clare's is around thirty percent in
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Speaker 17: the seat of Blaxland. There is certainly a movement going
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Speaker 17: on in Western Sydney and Melbourne. There's two specific movements
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Speaker 17: here which are starting up trying to mobilize Muslim voters.
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Speaker 17: They feel aggrieved about what is happening and also they
42:04
Speaker 17: feel left out of the political debate. And we certainly
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Speaker 17: know what happens when there is a vacuum, people feel
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Speaker 17: it in terms of representation. I was very fortunate to
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Speaker 17: also speak with Senator Fatima Payman, who has now left
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Speaker 17: the Labor Party and becoming independent. We flew to Perth
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Speaker 17: to speak with her exclusively over the weekend and I
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Speaker 17: asked her about her showdown with Anthony Alberanezi Peter, I'll
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Speaker 17: be very interested to hear what you have to say
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Speaker 17: after hearing this.
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Speaker 19: Wants it like going toe to toe with the Prime minister.
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Speaker 20: It was intense going toe to toe with the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 20: and for a first term senator, especially in their second year.
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Speaker 21: I don't think many senators out there, even in Visiage
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Speaker 21: something like this taking place. But my dad used to
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Speaker 21: always remind me and say, you know, live a life
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Speaker 21: with a clear conscience and you have no one to fear.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, she's a person who's certainly full of conviction if
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Speaker 17: she's made the right decisions. She certainly believes that she has.
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Speaker 22: Peter.
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Speaker 4: Look, she's very articulate. I think she's media schooled.
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Speaker 2: I think that the appointment of a chief of staffe
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Speaker 2: in Glen Drury says to me she's politically serious. She'll
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Speaker 2: expand her reachual, she'll certainly try and to stay in
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Speaker 2: her seat. But I listen to her there and her
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Speaker 2: on trains are politics and I understand she's a refugee
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Speaker 2: from Afghanistan, but I think about the circumstances of women
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Speaker 2: there compared to women here in Australia, and that says
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Speaker 2: Australia is a good country. And I feel sometimes at
43:37
Speaker 2: the moment we're talking our country down, we're trying to
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Speaker 2: make it what.
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Speaker 4: It's not, and it's not the Middle East.
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Speaker 9: John.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you show tonight. I'll watch
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Speaker 2: it at seven thirty here on Sky News World. Done
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Speaker 2: to you, Thanks for your time tonight. There you go,
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Speaker 2: clash of faiths as I said, seven thirty tonight here
43:53
Speaker 2: on Sky also streaming skynews dot com dot Au quick
43:57
Speaker 2: Break after the break this brew haha about Tim Waltz
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Speaker 2: and stolen valor, plus the Elon Musk interview with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's bring you my pan on our international issues,
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Speaker 2: Sky and his contributed Koshergada former Labor MP Michael Danby.
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Speaker 2: We're going to start with Kamala Harris's running mate, Tim Waltz,
44:22
Speaker 2: who's facing a tax over his military record.
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Speaker 4: JD.
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Speaker 2: Vance has accused him of stolen valor. His former battalion
44:30
Speaker 2: commander John cold says that Waltz did not successfully complete
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Speaker 2: any assignment as a sergeant major. The issue is is
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Speaker 2: using the title and a fedinko and marine in Vance
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Speaker 2: can call him out.
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's where he's vulnerable, isn't it. Yeah.
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Speaker 13: So there's three components to this story that has blown
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Speaker 13: up in the last week. The b slineers, he served
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Speaker 13: honorably for twenty four years in the Minnesota National Guard,
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Speaker 13: which is a great record and should have and would
44:54
Speaker 13: have been enough you should be proud of and point to.
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Speaker 13: For whatever reason, he decided along the way that it
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Speaker 13: wasn't enough, repeatedly on camera over the past twenty years.
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Speaker 4: Lots of footage. People can look this up.
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Speaker 13: Where one thing was a title inflation, because it was
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Speaker 13: a provisional title contingent on him finishing his tenure, which
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Speaker 13: he didn't do. The second thing is draft dodging, where
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Speaker 13: his unit was told that they have to deploy to
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Speaker 13: Iraq and he retired before that, just before I had
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Speaker 13: to go, and hence he doesn't qualify for the title,
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Speaker 13: but he's kept using it either by commission or omission.
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Speaker 13: And then the third one, which I think is a
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Speaker 13: line that you don't cross in the military. That's what
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Speaker 13: a lot of veterans would say, is he is embellished
45:30
Speaker 13: and said he was in the war zone and carried
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Speaker 13: weapons of war and actually fought in war zones. That's
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Speaker 13: a line you don't cross. What will it do politically
45:37
Speaker 13: remains to be seen. But there's twenty million veterans. Look
45:40
Speaker 13: at their family, that's forty to fifty million, so it's
45:42
Speaker 13: a sizeable contingent of people that are very passionate about
45:44
Speaker 13: this issue. And maybe that's why we saw him quite
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Speaker 13: silent over the weekend after his big pick. He didn't
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Speaker 13: do any media and I think they're trying to figure
45:51
Speaker 13: out how to write this ship.
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Speaker 19: Very impressed with title inflation, kosher or that'll stick in
45:56
Speaker 19: my mind.
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Speaker 2: Revenue big interviews today, Donald Trump at Alon Musk, I
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Speaker 2: think got a grab.
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Speaker 4: We'll play that. Have a listen.
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Speaker 7: Don't forget I beat I beat Biden. He failed in
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Speaker 7: the debate miserably, and say what you want. This was
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Speaker 7: a coup. This was a coup of a president of
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Speaker 7: the United States. He didn't want to leave, and they
46:19
Speaker 7: said we can do it the nice way or we
46:21
Speaker 7: can do it the hard way.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 22: I'm then just talk him out back behind the shed
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Speaker 22: and basically shot him. I think we're at a fork
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Speaker 22: in the road of destiny of civilization, and I think
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Speaker 22: we need to take the right path, and I think
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Speaker 22: you're the right path.
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Speaker 2: About two hours long. How influential is Musk going to be?
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Speaker 19: Well, he got two point one million views on Trump's
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Speaker 19: space on Twitter and fifty four million views altogether. But
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Speaker 19: it's backward looking, Peter, And you've been warning on this
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Speaker 19: program about Donald Trump can't win an election if he
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Speaker 19: fights the last election instead of this election and denigrates
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Speaker 19: his opponent just in personal terms, stick to the border,
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Speaker 19: stick to the economy, stick to inflation.
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Speaker 4: Record.
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Speaker 19: She was counted out by people before this election on
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Speaker 19: the basis of her not visiting the border and her
47:21
Speaker 19: support in the Senate. She was the crucial vote for
47:24
Speaker 19: those huge inflation boosting trillions of dollars that were in
47:29
Speaker 19: the Biden Biden Economics, which is no longer mentioned these days.
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Speaker 2: What they're trying to do, though, is they're running down
47:36
Speaker 2: a clock, right. They can see they're finishing a line.
47:37
Speaker 2: They've only got up. You hold her up and keep
47:40
Speaker 2: her lucid.
47:41
Speaker 4: And out of trouble for a matter of months. Will
47:43
Speaker 4: it work? Well? She hasn't had an interview. She's onner.
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Speaker 2: Not a lot of scrutiny to have one, really, And
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Speaker 2: I looked at that decisions she made the other day
47:52
Speaker 2: to match Trump on dropping the tax on tips. When
47:57
Speaker 2: he did it, everyone was banging on about this will
47:59
Speaker 2: cost the economy x billions of dollars. When she did it,
48:02
Speaker 2: I then don't mention the cost of the economy. But
48:05
Speaker 2: too they don't say this is matching the Donald Trump policy.
48:07
Speaker 2: So she's getting, you know, rails run from the media.
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Speaker 2: Nursing guidelines in the UK. You mentioned this to me.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.
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Speaker 13: What's this about the Royal College of Nursing RCN in
48:18
Speaker 13: the UK literally just in the last forty eight hours
48:21
Speaker 13: after the Health Secretaries guidelines changed their guidelines that they
48:25
Speaker 13: have the prerogative to deny treatment to patients who they
48:29
Speaker 13: feel or they perceive or being racist. And the reason
48:31
Speaker 13: for that isn't the weak that they're giving is in
48:33
Speaker 13: the weak of the pressure cooker environment in the UK.
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Speaker 4: If nurses are feeling under attack, but I thought a
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Speaker 4: medico had to give you help if you need.
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Speaker 13: Help, yes, And the hippocratic oath is what they go by.
48:42
Speaker 13: That's where this thing is quite stunning. I think that
48:45
Speaker 13: they're captured by maybe a higher ideological oath and I
48:47
Speaker 13: think what this goes to is the battle of free
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Speaker 13: speech and the tentacles of it it.
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Speaker 2: Imaginely, if a white nurse says, I'm not going to
48:53
Speaker 2: treat a black patient, but a black ches fit, I
48:56
Speaker 2: won't treat.
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Speaker 4: A white That's right.
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Speaker 13: And this is happening, and we're seeing instances of this
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Speaker 13: with the fact that there's free speech and the way
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Speaker 13: things are being positioned will show up in debanking, people
49:05
Speaker 13: will show up and not allowing people to have access
49:08
Speaker 13: to treatments, and we're seeing the tentacles of that whole
49:10
Speaker 13: censorship and the way you're allowed to speak or think
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Speaker 13: or not speak or think, show up in ugly places.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Nancy Pelosi has had a bit of a SmackDown.
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Speaker 4: To Paul Ketty.
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Speaker 19: He better be careful. She might confiscate his red cardinal shoes.
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Speaker 19: He's a pretty tough lady, she.
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Speaker 4: Might say, do not let him come into the country.
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Speaker 19: The point is Paul did a very hardline interview on
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Speaker 19: behalf of that pro China point of view that he represents,
49:38
Speaker 19: saying that Taiwan is just a piece of Beijing's real estate,
49:42
Speaker 19: and that Australians don't care about democracy in Taiwan or
49:47
Speaker 19: whether those people have the right to decide their own government.
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Speaker 19: I'm telling you, Paul Keating, you're wrong. Most Australians will
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Speaker 19: side with Nancy Pelosi.
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Speaker 4: He's wrong on a lot of things.
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Speaker 19: It was a great man.
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Speaker 4: I din't even go there. We got an economic policy.
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Speaker 4: That's it. That's it said or not Andrew Bolt here
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Speaker 4: is
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