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New Year Special: Let’s Get Physical · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Happy New Year, all fred year. Listening to the latest
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  Speaker 1: episode of Dom and Jerry, they talk about the rise
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  Speaker 1: of fitness over the years, and I can tell they
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  Speaker 1: they were no reformable lad days of irocks in my day. No,
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  Speaker 1: you're not fit by all and ladders upside of Jymney, shoveling,
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  Speaker 1: coal and steam engine. You have a bench press. I
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  Speaker 1: have hydraulic press. Anyways, I'll see the.
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  Speaker 2: Happy twenty twenty six from the Tom and Jerry Show,
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  Speaker 2: from both myself, Jerry McBride and my friend over here,
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  Speaker 2: mister Tom. O'martney. Happy New Year, Tom does does this?
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  Speaker 1: I suppose it is twenty two. Yeah, I mean happy
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  Speaker 1: new Year to happy new year to everybody. I mean happy,
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  Speaker 1: not just happy New Year, happy entirety of this year
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  Speaker 1: as you live through it and strive throughout fair fucking lately.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as far as I'm concerned, if you get the
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  Speaker 2: first couple of weeks of January of happiness, you're doing awful.
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  Speaker 1: While if yeah, the rest of it is on you
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent, did the evenings start brightening up? And
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  Speaker 1: after that if you're a grabby bastard, then look at
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  Speaker 1: that's your own fucking business. That's your own business.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Tom, we're coming off. We're coming off
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  Speaker 2: our Christmas break, which was enjoyed by all in the
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  Speaker 2: o'mahonniemicbride Households.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was absolutely smashing. SENTI arrived, SENTI did unbelievable work.
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  Speaker 1: It was fantastic stuff. So we're all happy. Herself got
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  Speaker 1: a barn door that she'd been wanting. So yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: you go. That's where we're that's where we're at.
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  Speaker 2: And I got a bottle opener, a chance to practice
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  Speaker 2: with a Tom Good.
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  Speaker 1: And you did well with your your your twelve your
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  Speaker 1: twelve ten k's of Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: We did, indeed, we did very well with the twelve
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  Speaker 2: ten k's of Christmas. And I'd like to thank any
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  Speaker 2: of the listeners that chipped in for Carrot Mcross Cancer Society.
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  Speaker 2: That money will be donated now in the first week
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  Speaker 2: of the new year. So we're all delighted and we're
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  Speaker 2: all just having a great time here as we welcome
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  Speaker 2: you into a fresh new year in the Tom and
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Show. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, we're
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  Speaker 2: a bit groggy after Christmas. Or rather than launch into
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  Speaker 2: a traditional show, we said we'd we'd we'd cook you
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  Speaker 2: up a bit of a special.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say, Tom, I'm dusty, I am fucking groggy.
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  Speaker 1: Every sin's a bit sideways, and I won't lie there.
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  Speaker 1: I need this episode because I have been eating like
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  Speaker 1: an absolute asshole, like a NASCAR fan at the dayton
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  Speaker 1: of five hundred on my fucking lawn chair. That's how
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  Speaker 1: I've been eating for the last ten days.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'd be going to bed like and instead of
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  Speaker 2: blessing yourself, going to bed and eat a crunchy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, I've been brushing my teeth with
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  Speaker 1: Curly Worthies. That's where we're at. It's it's hideous what
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  Speaker 1: I've been eating. I want a hamper chair. I want
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  Speaker 1: a hamper. And it was the worst thing that happened
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  Speaker 1: to me because it wasn't a hamper with boozer and
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  Speaker 1: in it. It was like a hamper for a child
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  Speaker 1: or an American do you know what I mean? I
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  Speaker 1: just it was calories from beginning to fucking end. I
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  Speaker 1: did all but eat the actual basket that came in.
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  Speaker 2: It's be like handing a drunk a loaded pistol, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: It was lunacy like lunacy there's nobody should should consume
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  Speaker 1: what I consumed and eating just crisps when I don't
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  Speaker 1: want crisps. Ye know, Oh we're having weezbreks. No, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a fucking packet of crisps. Okay, right, fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: No, I love gravy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much. I've been drinking Coca cola
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  Speaker 1: de bit the band. I don't know what's happened to me.
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  Speaker 1: I've got I've just gone all wrong her I have
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  Speaker 1: gout as a result of this.
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  Speaker 2: Well to gout and all tiss the season because as
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  Speaker 2: everybody rolls into the new year, everybody kind of has
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  Speaker 2: an idea that they might clean up in January. They
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  Speaker 2: might put away the bad food, they might get into
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  Speaker 2: a bit of fitness. There are more gym memberships signed
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  Speaker 2: in January than any other month of the year. And
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  Speaker 2: that made us think, Tom, So, that's what we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do for our New Year's Special. We've had this cooking
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  Speaker 2: for a while. We're gonna do a New Year's special
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  Speaker 2: feature length edition of one of the segments of our show.
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  Speaker 2: We want to talk about the rise of fitness as
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  Speaker 2: we have witnessed it with our eyes. In this country.
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  Speaker 2: Over the forty some odd years we've been alive, Tom.
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  Speaker 2: As we've said several times on the Tom and Jerry Show,
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  Speaker 2: we've existed on the fulcrum of life from the eighties
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  Speaker 2: near to the mid twenty twenties. We've seen old ways
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  Speaker 2: die off, we've seen young ways come along. And now
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  Speaker 2: we want to talk about the rise of fitness as
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  Speaker 2: we remember in Ireland in a feature length segment of
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  Speaker 2: we remember when when I was a young.
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  Speaker 1: Lad twenty or thirty or forty years ago, What a
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  Speaker 1: time to be alive. It's it I get a feeling
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  Speaker 1: every so often that fitness, much like my waistline, like
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  Speaker 1: fitness trend on a general basis, goes up and down,
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  Speaker 1: up and down, you know what I mean. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not just a year long thing. It seems to be like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty five was twenty twenty four, you know,
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  Speaker 1: more about picks and shoulders. Then twenty twenty three was
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  Speaker 1: more about ties and s you know this kind of way, Like.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm going to tell you, Tom. As
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  Speaker 2: we roll into our mid to late forties, you'll find
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  Speaker 2: that you and I are going to spend the next
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  Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years, losing and gaining the same stone
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  Speaker 2: over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just gonna it's gonna go up a little bit and
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  Speaker 2: then you're gonna be like that, I don't want I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to buy an new pair of jeans. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just put the brakes a little bit and it'll go
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  Speaker 2: up and down. As that's what I've been for the
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  Speaker 2: last ten years. But we were both relatively fit young men.
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  Speaker 2: You played sport competitively and fought and did all this
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  Speaker 2: kind of crack and I was a poser.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But as we normally do where we remember when segment is,
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  Speaker 2: we remind the people that there was a time when
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  Speaker 2: there wasn't a gym on every corner of Ireland. There
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  Speaker 2: was a time when going to the gym wasn't the
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  Speaker 2: thing that endeared you to the wider population.
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  Speaker 1: No, you you'd watch it on you knew the results
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  Speaker 1: of it on Telly because you're watching your muscle bound heroes,
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  Speaker 1: you know whatever. But you're like, well, that's them, that's that,
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  Speaker 1: and you need he wanted to believe that that's how
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  Speaker 1: they got out of the bed in the morning, you know,
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  Speaker 1: shredded to fucking bits shiny, you know, able to blade
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  Speaker 1: and steel, steel bar and whatnot. You're like, yeah, that's him,
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  Speaker 1: that's him. You would hope to have, you know, biceps
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  Speaker 1: like bea barracus and you know, a chest like fucking
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  Speaker 1: Louis f Ringo. But there was no reality to that,
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  Speaker 1: certainly and certainly for me anyway, That's all I know.
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  Speaker 1: In the countryside, there would be the odd outlet who
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  Speaker 1: could you know, pick up like fifty kilo bagas meant
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  Speaker 1: in each hand, and that was a strong bloke.
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  Speaker 2: You a strong man.
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  Speaker 1: That was a strong man that you knew of. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: had abs, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Tom, I didn't see an ab in real life
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  Speaker 2: till I was thirty. The here go wasn't on me.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, the rise of it, as we talked about it,
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  Speaker 1: Jim's weren't on every corner, but there was places to
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  Speaker 1: go and do fitness in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what we want to get into here, that's
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  Speaker 2: what we want to get into. So it's the eighties.
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  Speaker 2: It take young Tom and young Jerry in the eighties
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  Speaker 2: and nineties and being body conscious was a thing that
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  Speaker 2: kind of was starting to creep into the consciousness of
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  Speaker 2: it because whereas in previous generations. You had strong people,
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  Speaker 2: yes for sure, and boxers and all this kind of thing. Boxers, wrestlers,
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  Speaker 2: what have you? Football players? I mean, if you look
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  Speaker 2: at a football player from the seventies and they don't
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  Speaker 2: look like Cristiano Ronaldo now with the eight pack abs
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  Speaker 2: and all this kind of crack, it just looks like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jack Charlton smoking fags at halftime.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember, I need to
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  Speaker 1: find the clip for you somewhere on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: But it's of like a.
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor's like a bachelor's parade on.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, was it The Late Late or.
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  Speaker 1: Some other show or was it some sort of like
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  Speaker 1: dating show that was an RTAD during the eighties. But
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  Speaker 1: there were these strapping men, but they had the most
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  Speaker 1: normal dead bods, like every one of these fellows in
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  Speaker 1: their twenties, but they looked like a fellow in his
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  Speaker 1: fifties now, Like there was lads with comover and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but they did short off. Some of them are in
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  Speaker 1: their underpants and women were like, oh my god, the
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  Speaker 1: very fact that you didn't have, you know, a forty
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  Speaker 1: kilo keg of a belly on your front. These guys
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  Speaker 1: were primo, but they had no definition whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, whatsoever. And then on the other side
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  Speaker 2: you had, you know, every now and then on TV
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  Speaker 2: you'd see the Strongest Man in the World competition. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but they're all the big barrelors of lads.
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  Speaker 1: And the monster and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah monster dudes.
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  Speaker 2: But then you also had our friend, a friend of
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  Speaker 2: the podcast, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who came in in the eighties
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  Speaker 2: and was all just an absolute fucking sock full of
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  Speaker 2: walnuts looking dude. And I dare say around about then
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  Speaker 2: the men and the ladies of of of this side
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  Speaker 2: of the world might have started to paying more attention.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was as to what they looked like.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was early that made it a thing.
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  Speaker 1: I I if you if you go back far like
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  Speaker 1: if you go back to do and he himself said
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  Speaker 1: it was sparta I was watching. Was it Spartacus? It
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  Speaker 1: was it was some other bodybuilder he saw on the movies. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I want. And so that's what it started
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  Speaker 1: for day. And I think, like you said, people started
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  Speaker 1: to go, ah, maybe I could do a thing outside
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  Speaker 1: of just sitting on a Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So so Tom today, anybody who's listening to the Tom
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  Speaker 2: and Jerry Show that's feeling in New Year's resolution to
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  Speaker 2: get fit or get in shape, get a bit of
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  Speaker 2: cardio or whatever that they've got their pick of gyms
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  Speaker 2: to go to. You can go to your fly fits,
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  Speaker 2: you can go to your Ben Dunn's, you can go
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  Speaker 2: to your smaller gyms and your personal trainers. Get all
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  Speaker 2: these things. You know, you can't walk down the street
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  Speaker 2: and not hit a gym. That wasn't the way when
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  Speaker 2: we were growing up. I want to say that there
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  Speaker 2: was no quote unquote gym's gymnasiums as you would as
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  Speaker 2: you would know them today. What you might have near
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  Speaker 2: you would be a leisure center in a hotel. So
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  Speaker 2: a hotel near or around you would have a leisure
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  Speaker 2: center that you could buy membership to and you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be buying it for the gym of it. You would
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  Speaker 2: be buying it for for example, the swimming pool, the pool,
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, the squash court or the handball court.
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  Speaker 1: But there was always a room with a few weights
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  Speaker 1: in it exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember, I don't know about you, but I
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  Speaker 2: remember that was just like that. That wasn't even called
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  Speaker 2: the gym that was like the weights room. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and it would be harmless.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't I don't think we had any leisure center
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  Speaker 1: style hotels around us, but that we did have. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: managed to finagle government funding to build a pretty much
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  Speaker 1: at the time state of the art. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: still looks the same now, but state of the art
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  Speaker 1: sports center into the bury Town named the Canon Hayes
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  Speaker 1: Sports Center. Kenad has been the founder of the GA
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  Speaker 1: if anybody's wondering, but he he yeah. And at the time,
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  Speaker 1: I remember the popular thing was the indoor soccer.
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  Speaker 2: The indoor soccer. We had one in Karric as well.
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  Speaker 2: We call it the Recreation center of the rec Center.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to say it was built in my time,
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  Speaker 2: or at least it was converted in my time. I
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  Speaker 2: remember it opened. It was always there, but I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it was shut down and it was opened with
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  Speaker 2: some sort of before do you think, No, It was
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  Speaker 2: like it was sort of half built and left the
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  Speaker 2: seed and then there was some sort of injection the
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  Speaker 2: government money towards the mid nineties. Sounds very like what
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  Speaker 2: happened down with you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: it became the rec center. And again it wasn't oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a gym, it was an indoor soccer pitch baddened.
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  Speaker 2: If there was local karate tournaments.
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  Speaker 1: Or something like that, that was what we used. That's
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  Speaker 1: mostly how I frequented it because of the martial arts.
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  Speaker 1: We will put on a big demo or whatever, or
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  Speaker 1: to be a tournament on whatever, and it would be
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  Speaker 1: normally be on the parquet flooring is what it'd.
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  Speaker 2: Be on exactly, and the schools would play basketball and
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  Speaker 2: whatnot exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And I can remember it was actually built with proper
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  Speaker 1: intent because they had high walls obviously, but I'm one
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  Speaker 1: up on a higher ridge region then maybe twenty foot up.
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  Speaker 1: There was an entire balcony all the way across, so
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  Speaker 1: you could watch from from a height. Yeah, but on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of that country was the squash courts
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  Speaker 1: which would drop down to that level as well. So
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  Speaker 1: did five squash courts. Are four or five squash courts
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  Speaker 1: that worked, But there was I'll never forget there was
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  Speaker 1: a squeaky door on the weights room. Yes, that's how
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  Speaker 1: little it got used until about tordire in school, and
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  Speaker 1: then I started realizing wished these lads are all big
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  Speaker 1: that we're playing against, so we better start doing this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Doing this. Well, that's what I want to talk to
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  Speaker 2: you about school fitness, because I knew you actually played
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  Speaker 2: some rugby and whatnot when you were in school. We
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  Speaker 2: had GAA teams, which I was never on, and cross
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  Speaker 2: country teams, which, hey, you got a field, you can
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  Speaker 2: train on a field. But the gym work we did
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  Speaker 2: at school was we did the fucking beep test. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, we did no weights, no, because we.
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  Speaker 2: Did like freehand exercises like set ups and push ups
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  Speaker 2: and shit like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, bleep tests, then you do like
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  Speaker 1: town bean bags at each other and shit, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I could never really wrap my head around it. It was
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  Speaker 1: like there's no contact whatsoever in this fucking rubbish. But
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  Speaker 1: just because I would, you know, invariably have a second
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  Speaker 1: bag with me, and I wasn't going home when everybody
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  Speaker 1: else was going home because I had pe every fucking
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  Speaker 1: even playing some sort of sport. But I remember it
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  Speaker 1: was around the fifteen mark that one of the lads
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  Speaker 1: suggests because he saw because we had a tangible connection
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  Speaker 1: that we had who later went out to be our
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  Speaker 1: school's coaches. Now punned it on Premier Premier Sports. Alan
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  Speaker 1: Quinland he was a club member of the club he
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  Speaker 1: went to but he was playing for Ireland at the time, right,
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  Speaker 1: and he would come home with these He would come
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  Speaker 1: home bigger and bigger and bigger, and you're going, how
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  Speaker 1: is this guy getting his own? Brother was actually a bodybuilder,
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  Speaker 1: like looked like something from a cartoon. Nobody ever seemed
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  Speaker 1: like him. But again he had lived in Australia for
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  Speaker 1: like five or six years, hung out in Bandai with
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  Speaker 1: these guys who'd been bodybuilders forever. So a catalyst nearly
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  Speaker 1: came from seeing that in the fledge.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, what like he has bought?
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  Speaker 1: Like what are like?
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  Speaker 2: Those are movie biceps?
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  Speaker 1: And of course quinnin himself and Alan was getting bigger
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  Speaker 1: and he would show you if you asked. So some
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  Speaker 1: of us were like, we should probably start getting a
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  Speaker 1: bit stronger if we want, because you need you. There's
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  Speaker 1: no two ways about it, even though the rugby clubs
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  Speaker 1: themselves never mentioned a way because it was the nineties
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  Speaker 1: and we were young for us, but we took it
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  Speaker 1: upon ourselves as a group to go we should probably
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  Speaker 1: start livinging some things, do you know?
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  Speaker 2: And I want to say, like this this crack that
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  Speaker 2: they have now with the gaa of all the players
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  Speaker 2: go into the gym in the off season and you know,
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  Speaker 2: get special rates, get special gym rates for the team
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  Speaker 2: and all this kind of thing. I want to say that, like,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't it a thing you went to your GA training
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  Speaker 2: of an evening, but your actual strength and fitness was
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  Speaker 2: what you brought with you from home. It wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: case of okay, lads, now we're gonna you know, do
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  Speaker 2: that big battle rope shit or anything like that around
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  Speaker 2: the play.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of it was early doors.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of older coaches wouldn't have wanted you, especially
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  Speaker 1: playing football and Hurland, because they wouldn't want to put
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  Speaker 1: the size on you're going to slow you down. But
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  Speaker 1: I think lads took it upon themselves too. I suppose
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  Speaker 1: different positions on the field, but not so much in horror,
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  Speaker 1: I guess maybe in Hurland a base, but more so
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  Speaker 1: in Gaelic football. I remember you'd be advised to stay
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  Speaker 1: away from it until it's needed. You know, you need
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  Speaker 1: a recovery, you're coming back from an injury or something like.
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  Speaker 1: But for the most part, I think the training for
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  Speaker 1: ga is best served out on the field. Sure you
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  Speaker 1: can do small things and whatnot, but you don't need
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  Speaker 1: physical bulk. You certainly don't need it in either sport.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: And I remember seeing an interview with them or it
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: was like a documentary following Paul Galvin around the place.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Who would have been, you know, a bit showing and whatnot.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And he's into his clothes and whatnot. But he showed
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: one year he used to see that. I watched myself
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: back in that hour final and I'd last a yard
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: of pace because I'd put on too much fucking size.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: And he just backed away from the jew and he went, no, no, no, no,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: we need to shed a load of that meat because
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: it's not needed in football.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: It's not needed. Well all this to say tom Now,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: as we witnessed it, there became this sort of creeping
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: want for gyms in Ireland and around about the mid
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: to late nineties, we would have been about eighteen or
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: nineteen or there. It's like independent gyms starting to crop
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: up around about Chartmacross and one. You know, there wouldn't
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: be several per time to be one in character one
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: and then talk maybe you know two in Monah in
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: town maybe if you wanted to go down that far.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: But even at that these were like smaller gyms with
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: a mix of of of of treadmills and rowing machines
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: and all this sort of crack for the cardio and
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: then your your free weight, So very like what we
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: have now. But ah, we're a bit more of a
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: homemade aesthetic to it, shall we say.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: But for sure, I don't think that there was a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: There had to be a turning point or you know,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I put in and jumping off point where nobody knew
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: what the fuck they were doing, do you know what
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like there had to be very few, very
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: few knew what the fuck they were doing, you know
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And I remember being shown how to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: lift weights correctly, but then see, you know what they're
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: older for. Listen, they're swinging these fucking things around like
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: they're trying to start a Jane Sow and you're like, what,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: You're gonna hurt yourself. You're just gonna hurt.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Yourself and hurt ourselves. We did tell them there was
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: also and maybe this was just a carractering, you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: stop me if this sounds doesn't sound familiar. There was
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a notion that if you didn't want to play ga
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: and you just wanted to go and lift weights and
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: make yourself better looking than you were, probably gay.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there was.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It seemed like a gay thing to do at the time.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: It did.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And the only the only along with that to himself,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: his name was I'll never forget it was John Quinlan
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: was the guy's name who came back from Australia at
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that time as a body builder, and only he's such
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: an aggressively intro man, but he was jacked to the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: fucking smithereens that you kind of went, I think it
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: might be okay, thing will be fine. But also no,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you were, you were right in the original thought was
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like nah, like only that's dude, what.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Do you do there?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: You sports?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Or like that? You just go down there and lift
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: weights and look at each other.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So hold on you you just train like you don't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: play play a sport. At the end of train, you
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: just trained to train. Yeah, kind of fucking, kind of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: fucking kind of fu I couldn't wrap my head around
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: either unless there was a point to it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: You know. My counterpoint is, yes, I'm terribly sorry that
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I'm going to the gym to train. I'm not going
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: like you good gentlemen, to play ga and then all
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: getting the fuck and share with each other haples.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: So oh listen to put saus through a milk to
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: ruffalo now a second.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Here to me. Yeah, but here's the thing, Tom mcgaine,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: as and not for nothing as well. Do you know
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: what happened in our lifetimes as well? Happened a couple
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: of times. I'm praying for it to happen again. We
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: all got a bit of money.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: That was exactly it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: We all got a bit of money. And I feel like,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you know, just like the rise of the Irish flying
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: off on Ryanair flights to Abita and whatnot. There was
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a bunch of ads in their mid twenties and early
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: two thousands there thereabouts went out to Abita and they
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: were the fattest fox on the beach.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, and I was always by
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the time I was eighteen, we were in full flight
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: now at that stage from me. I got to college
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and I was dream scenario because I got to try
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and I took a job. I say I took a job.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't do a lot of work there at this
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: hotel across the road, from me. But I would get up,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and I think I've definitely told you this before. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: would get up before college and go to the gym
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: across the way. Now, I was living with a bunch
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of lads who would know a gym if you fucked
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: at him. Do you know what I mean? Like the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: whole gym could land on him and they go.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: What is what is this church?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Do you know what?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: These are?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Just all working farmery lads that I was living with,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: who were as strong as anybody anyway. But I would
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: go to the gym, come back quick, nap, go to college,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and they go, right, I'm always at the gym. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: was only once or twice one or two of the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: lads were like, were you were not?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: No?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: No, no, I wasn't no no.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It be came a thing.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I was hiding it from him because they were still
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: kind of going, what's going to that fucking thing for? Not?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: For nothing? Time. I'll tell you one thing now, when
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I was in my early twenties, I was working in
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the hardware shop and I you know, I don't think
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: i'd really gotten into the gym, but I wanted like
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: to be bigger and all that kind of thing. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you Many's the time. Many's the lunch break.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'd stay in the shop and put the handle of
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a broom through a roll of lead and do curls.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: That's a fact, I believe it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And start from a six inch roll of lead and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: work your way up to an eighteen inch roll of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the lead.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Now you're talking if you're going off off the ground,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: but I used to. And then there was a couple
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: other gyms that the lads from the rugby club used,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And you're looking at lads who are bought, you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on the cusp of make playing for Ireland and stuff
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: like shit hout and they're fucking shreded the smith Marine.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So now you've got a visceral thing that you're looking at.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: So I suppose I probably had an odd jump on
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it where I was like, this has got to happen,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: this Jesus Chris, And you almost got a body this
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: this dysmorphia. You're sure that you're not getting bigger. But
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like every time i'd meet a friend from home that
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen in six weeks, you're like, what you
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: all fuck are you eating? You know, because you're just
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: got this cranked and neck. You've seen the picture of
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: my passport picture, you know what I mean. Yeah, I've
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: got a fucking leg for a.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Nick you know me, it's my phone lock screen.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So you leave that down to anywhere. Nobody's robbing that phone,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. But yeah, so it there was a there
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: was an element that that. But you're I still didn't
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: fully know I was only doing it for a sport too. Well,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this is it, you know what I mean?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: This is this is what we'll this is what we'll
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: move on to now, Tom, because as in our lifetime,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: we've started to see gyms pop up. So and not
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: for nothing, we have to mention the late Ben Done,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: because Ben Done is you know, he didn't put a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: gym in Temporary and he didn't put a gym in Carrick,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: but for a lot of people around Dublin in the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: areas that he did, he the Ben Done Jim's were
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the first McDonald's gyms that that hit Ireland. And he
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: had a chain of gym's left, right and center, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: some of them remained to this day, even though he
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: himself has passed away. So like got to give him
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a shout that he saw money
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: in it in the late nineties, early two thousands, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: goddamn it, but he was not wrong.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: There was one or two even Irish innovodators and mentioned
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: one in a while and I'll see if a ping's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a memory on you when we get into the the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to the supplementation side of things and whatnot. And a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: lot of people were into it. But but yeah, I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: mean you could start to see the nexus of it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Then when I moved to Cork, I remember I lived
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: over a gym and that's all it was. It wasn't
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a legend a gym, swimming pool, no, no, And this
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is when things felt very real. There was no bowl
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and alley like the one in Limerick, you know what
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I mean. But there was no swimming pool, there was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: no This was just a gym. And when we walked in,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you've got hard dance music playing. Do you know. Everybody's
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in brightly colored good gear. Good gear now not the.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Risk smell of fucking hot metal, you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Like it was, there was men
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and women in the everybody was kind of on it,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They were on their fucking
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: they were here to work. The lighting was cool, it
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: was cool. It was my first time seeing a cool
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: gym in like two thousand and it was two thousand
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and one, I can remember because I came back from
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the Fable story, came back from the States through Boston
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that September tenth, and I was straight over that. That's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: where I rented an apartment first. It was over that gym.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So it was you were a brave man after seeing
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: what you've seen, Tom, renting the place that wasn't on
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the ground floor.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: To be fair, it was over a place that I
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: had to get physically bigger and stronger. Chard that's really odd,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I can see, just so I should just go over
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: there and beat some freedom in people.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get drafted, So come here to me, Tom. Okay.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So now we have a couple of gyms cropping up
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: around Ireland. What do they look like and what goes
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: on in them? Okay, Because if you go down to
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: a gym today, you're going to have high tech equipment.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: You're going to have CrossFit classes, you're going to have
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to have pilate's, you're going to have spinning classes,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: polar chambers, fucking sonas, all this kind of thing. We
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: started easy open car across, you had weights or you
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: had running.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. That was it. There was a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: rowing machine, there'd be a rowing machine.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Cardio, and then there was weights, and it was like
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you want to get you want to what do you
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: want to do? Get small, go over there, get big,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: go over there. Yeah, that was it was. It was
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: almost as simple as that.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And even though you were naming out those things there
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: like this on a the polar fucking Express or whatever
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you're calling it, but I know all the things you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and how we're going to ice bats and then there's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: going to be fucking salt chambers, and none of those things,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you know, register with me at all when you said, Jim,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: all I think of is free rates machines, running machine. Yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: as it there might be you know that what the
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: fucking elliptical you know, maybe there might be one or
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: two ellipticals there.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was permitting. There might be a rowing machine,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: as you said there and an exercise bike. But and
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: it was well we'll get into it a little bit more,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: but by and large, the men went to the weights
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: machines and the women went to the cardio. And that
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: was again it was the ignorance at the time, Tom
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: was what we didn't know. Okay, there was this notion
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that if you lift weight you were going to get
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: big and huge and bulky and all this kind of crack.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: You can't get big and huge and bulky with the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: best of your efforts, you know. So no, you're not
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: just going to do five sets of ten with the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: two kiloweights and all of a sudden, steady r dress.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: You know that's not going to happen, right, So it
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: was and it was all like, I don't want to
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: get too big. Believe me, brother, you won't.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really hard.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you you're not going to get
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: too big. What we're looking at the data, how I feel,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: is an amazing like evolution of twenty years of knowing
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: what happens when you eat protein and lift a weight, yeah,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: versus what happens when you don't eat protein and you
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: run ten miles exactly exactly, and how you balance that
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: and move that on. In particular, the gym that I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: go to now you have ladies doing dead lifts. Mad
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: for Dead Lifts there Mad for Deadlifts video, and the
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: dead and the love the squats and the whole lot
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: now I'm going to tell you this now, twenty years ago,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: they weren't doing that shit.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: You were not find a woman under a squad rack
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: twenty years ago unless she was just going over because
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: something dropped, you know what I mean, like she found
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: something like or by accident, because.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe like maybe if a lady was like
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, into boxing or whatnot, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: they would they would get serious. But your traditional young
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: women just like out and about weren't under the spell
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: of get yourself under the metal their love.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Now I will say they could. I may have tapped
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: onto some tapped into something here too, because while I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: said there was an influence probably from the telly and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: stuff like that lad seeing big Muscli fellas there was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: during the time when Jerry said we got to rake
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the money in the early two thousands, there was an
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: influx of a certain nationality committed the country who had,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: shall we say, a Sobviet way of thinking when it
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: came to getting big. Yes, and we had Polish lads
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and stone and stonewashed jeans and mohawks coming in jacked
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: do the fucking smith of rings to the couch heeds
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and like.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Get off the airplane and be like, okay, first wears gym.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'll never forget it was two thousand and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: maybe two thousand and seven. I was in a gym. No.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Two thousand and six. I was in a gym in
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: bunt Clody. I was living down a bun Clothy building
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a golf course by myself only fell on the golf
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: on the build side that was could speak English, everybody
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: else Insuanian. So I just used to go to the gym.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: And this gym was what the rock or these whankers
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: would describe as you know, a house of.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Steel, you know what I mean, iron pals.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It was an iron palace. There was no fancy, but
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: there was a bunch of strong men going there like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: competitive strong in the wall. Nothing it was just pea
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: green wall dripping with fucking condensation. Yeah, big, heavy, fucking
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: monstrous iron everywhere got big. I got big during it,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: but I'll never forget it. There was this Eastern European
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: woman training another what looked Eastern European woman, but she
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: was speaking in English, tour with the most strongest Russian
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: quarter maybe Polish, I don't know what she had her
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: under the scot wreck and the lads were going fucking
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: christ strong one which A was roorn at her to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: lift fucking lift lift, and I'll never forget she pinched
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: her stomach, which there was nothing of. She pinched her
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: stomach with move, f bitch. How you get men? If
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you fit, bitch, I will till the day.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I die, I'll be as you as you mentioned it,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: tom as you mentioned it once. I started going to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: the gym properly when I was twenty four to twenty five.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: In the rec center and carrac I learned all. I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: learned an awful lot. I eventually moved to another gym,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: where I learned a hell of a lot more. But
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: while I was there for a couple of years, I
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: learned an awful lot from two Lithuanian lands. As I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: came in, weren't overly friendly, but they needed me out
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: of the way. So I was like, are you finished
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: with that? I was like, not yet. It goes okay,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: but let me show you how you do it properly.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Let me show you how to do properly and quickly,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: so you move on.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, that's fair enough, and we
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: fell into that, like you know, I should say like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: let me show you a quick way to do.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: That perfect description of little wit yet full stop, not
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: overly friendly but nice enough.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Not overly friendly, but nice enough. And I'll never forget
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the one piece of advice, one piece of training, because
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I just walked in off the street, like there's no
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: personal trainern like this. You just sort of gave it
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a go and there was no internet to speak of.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: To a kid that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Walks into like a corner corner street boxing gym, yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: with his rocksack over his shoulder and he's looking for
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a locker, that's you.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: And someone goes like, hey, kid, you want to learn something,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: come over here. I'll never forget that I was standing
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: how you stand in a stance for for doing pretty
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: much Jenathan squats, deadlifts, whatever it might be. You don't
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: just stand to attention like a certain you have it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And I'll never get one of them said to me,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: goes feet like chaplain.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Like chaplain, like Charlie Chaplin, like Charlie Chaplin, sort of
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: forty five degrees out. Yeah, it's sort of splayed feit
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: like chaplain. See say okay, all right.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that is that has stayed with me all
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: these years there's people screaming at the thing, going no
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: not feet like chaplain. That's why you've got knee pain
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: and hip pain for twenty years. Ship ahead. But it
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: worked at the time. And this is this is what
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: we were doing, Tom in the two thousands, You and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I and everybody like us just setting foot in a
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: gym properly for the first time in our lives, giving
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: it a go.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's it, with no idea what we're doing,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but we figured we should be doing it. It's one
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of the few things that you think about that if
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you got introduced to a place normally dies off, you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that kind of way, because if you can't see a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: tangible purpose to it, like Line Danson died off, you
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, made a brief return there. Its
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: country music is back, but at the same time it
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: died the fuck off, Like the gym has much like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: your ability in the gym, has only gotten fucking stronger
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and stronger. I mean, there's as many gyms now as
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: there nearly is Turkish barbers, you know what I mean.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: That's a lot, buddy, that's a lot. But I never
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I never saw it going backwards at all. It just
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: seemed to be a very The whole industry seems to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: be very innovative and smart. It keeps an evolvant like
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and if they bring a.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Cross we have seen CrossFit come along, Tom, And if
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you didn't like CrossFit, if it wasn't for you, will
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: you wait around five years?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And here's high high Rocks, which, by the way, do
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: you know what it stands for? No higher rock star? Yeah,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: because you're a rock star if you're getting that fitture.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I know it is the time. I've seen some of
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: these high rocks pies and I'm not going to give
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: out of them. But I thought it was like high intensity,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: rapid one No, no rock stars like that.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is what the stands First I thought it was climbing.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, Oh you got high. I thought it
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: was high rocks. I thought climbing. Genuinely. It was sent
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to me on the podcast a couple of months ago.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, now he's gone big into high rocks
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and fair play, even though for heights obviously so.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So none of us ever cracked the World body Building
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Federation around like that, Tim, But we got fit in
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: our own way. We got injured in our own way,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: we switched to running every now and then if we
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: wanted to get a little bit faster. And I have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to tell you one thing that I feel has changed
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the attitude because all the time I was going to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the gym, you were getting kind of slagged, you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: you were going out and if you were like a
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: wee bit bigger like that, you're told all you're on
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: steroids or some shit like that, or like you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: as you know, you might be big, but at bat
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: of you. Anyway, there was a lot of this going
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: you know, oh yeah, you look big, but you can't fight.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: A lot of this ship going around in kark And
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, motherfucker, I'm just over here with somewhat of
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: a fucking body dysmorphious situation, over here doing the best
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: in life. Leave me the fuck alone.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, while your belly fucking hangs over
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: your flute, relax, Yeah exactly, he breaks. Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: And at the same time, for the first time in
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: my life, I feel like a battle summer use cars.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit of that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I think there is a course.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually feel the tide is turning ever so
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: slightly here. I want to tell you one thing that
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the and I don't want to give it full credit
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: for it, but it's something we witnessed in our lifetime. Tom,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and as much as Arnold did for bodybuilding and whatnot
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: in the eighties and all that, I think what got
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: it from something not everybody did to something a lot
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: of the younger generation turned a hand to was the
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: rise of reality TV, and specifically a reality TV show
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: in the mid two thousands. The sums add up, Tom
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Jersey Shore, It does, it does the mentality of Jim
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: tan laundry.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I remember looking at that, and I
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: was in decent nick at the time, but I'd been
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Jim and a long time at that stage. But I remember,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and I'd only ever really jimmed for the sake of
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a sport, you know, that kind of way. There was something, Yeah,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: there was purposeful. I wasn't getting my calves bigger so
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that they'd look good in a pair of skinny jeans
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: or on the back on the beach in fucking Corfu.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: It was so I could fucking explode out of the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: blocks inside ten meters and cripple somebody. That was the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: whole idea.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: That was it. It was just purpose built to fucking
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: try and kill.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: It wasn't for curtain purposes.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: It wasn't. Now did it hurt when you accidentally just
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: pop an aull trycep there as you're turning around to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: try and pick up something. No, it didn't all.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't tell you. I gotta tell you, Tom. It
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: didn't help me all that much. And no, one time
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: at last he came walking up to me in the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: fucking fiddlers, poked me and went I walked off.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there was there was an element of that,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and I think, I think, I know you could be
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: onto something here. There was an element of the fucking
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: what like when I moved. I remember moving to Cork
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and Rugby had been the mainstay in in a in
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: in Limericks, so there was a lot of blokes that
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: looked in good nick. So it meant it, you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: meant something if you were But I remember moving the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: car for the first time and I went, oh, I'm
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: going to buy tops bit bagger actually down here because
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: nobody is into this fucking crack at all, doll. So
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I remember for the first couple of years just going
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just wear bigger stuff and like button
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: down shorts and not fucking tight pole of shorts, you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, which I've been proud enough to
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: wear and slagger you know, laughs with you as you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: might right now if anybody's listening. If you're twenty three
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and you're fucking Jack the Smith, the rings, you're going
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to wear the type short, I don't care who. The
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: style at the time is the style at the time.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: But when they got to remember that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: It was going to build these bombs to rust them
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Tom exactly and.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I remember, but exactly like that, you just kind of
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: got to look like, h what what's wrong with this guy?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And what's the reasoning behind this? Oh, he's probably one
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of them fucking rugby whankers, like gotcha. I guess I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: probably am. But at the same time, Jesus Christ, I'm
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: trying to actually I'm in shape for a fucking at
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: least I'm in shape. But it wasn't You've got no
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: credit for it. Until I went into that that super
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: gym that I was talking about, went oh, this is
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: everybody's okay with it in here, this is cool.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Well, and like you say, our Eastern European friends coming over, Uh,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you know, we're putting us to shame in the mid
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: two thousands.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I think so, and I think that, and like you said,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore, and dare I say even younger than
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that a couple of years previous to all that, I
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: think a big, big, well, let's call it the lynchpin
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: in that moment was Peter fucking Andre.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Peter Andree what what's all this?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: What's all this mysterious girl? And the mysterious girl absolutely
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to smithereens he is like not a body five percentage
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: down to about two for the fucking video, but unreel
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: in it. And every bloke was like I want to expect,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and every woman all right with the women was now
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: kind of gone, fucking hell, that's all right because it
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: was he would look like a Greek god in all fairness.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: And compared to with no disrespect, there wasn't a six
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: pack among the members of his own.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: There was not. Well, it would have been like but
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: had a Heineken down the side of it. But at
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the same time it changed the narrative.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I changed the story a little bit, and a little
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: bit we have watched that happen in our lives. Tom
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: This notion that if you work out and you are
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: in good shape. It would not hurt your chances with
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the fairer sex or indeed the ladies. If you work
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: out and get into good shape, you might catch the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: eye of a man that you wouldtherwise might not have done.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Or fuck it, Tom, I don't know if you want to,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you know, grab what you want. Who cares? You know?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: If the battle look and you're probably gonna anime for them?
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well, at least you've shaped up your fucking
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you've made the best of your fucking pig sty of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: a body. If you've gotten it into fucking some kind
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: of order, at least, you.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Know, it shows that you give a fuck time. Now
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: here's the thing that I want to talk to you about. Tom. Okay,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: we've talked on the Tom and Jerry Show. What we
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: we remember when I remember we did an episode on
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: pet food and all this kind of thing about now,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: back in our day, you gave your dog a bone,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and that today there's aisles in the supermarket full of
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: every possible bit and piece of nutrition in your dog needs.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And it is the very exact same when it comes
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: to fitness. Tom. The old joke, the old trope of
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: fitness was from Rocky, and Rocky didn't invent it. This
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: was just what happened at the time. If you wanted
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: your protein, if you wanted nutrition, you cracked six eggs
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: into a glass and you drank them in the morning.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: You've seen that in the rock It's been made fun
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: of all then oh, you blend up this horrible shit
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: and drink it. And you fast forward forty fifty years
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: to where we are today, where you walk into any
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: goddamn service station, Apple Green Circle k anywhere around the country,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: they have a whole aisle dedicated to specific protein riched
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: part of for the fitness minded.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: We were in a shop yesterday and you know, he's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: said it might be a hard one to crack when
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: it comes to this, but he wanted baby bells and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: he says, will we get the blue ones as well?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what they are. Picked up
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the blue baby bell they're protein based baby.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Bells, and I say, this is what I want to
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: dig in to hear Tom.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I said, they're well, they're for kids. Who's giving I know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: like all And honestly, I mean baby bell is barely
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: cheese anyway. You know, it's the fucking run it off
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: the top of the mount and he's but in fairness, went,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I think they're protein based ones and for a six
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: year old to throw them back him in, you'll appreciate
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: this moment. Yeah, they'll probably fucking stink.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Where does he get it from? Tom? Where does he
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: get it from?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I will not I cannot express is dublin how hard
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I left like I he looked like a raving I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: looked like I shouldn't have been in charge of a child.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I was laughing that hard, and he looked at me
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: like what the fuck are you laughing at? But he
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: literally slung these things back in going you had the
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: probably fucking state.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: But that's a perfect example of it. Everything has protein
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: in it. Nowadays you can get protein freaking yop.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: If you want.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there are entire wings of the supermarket dedicated
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: to protein powders and creatings and all this kind of crack. Tom.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'ma tell you one thing now, buddy, there are entire
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: shops dedicated to it in every town in Ireland. To
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: go in and get all the propriate creating protein wave everything.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Uphill and Downdale pre workout, post workout, carbohydrates every single
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: thing you want. I'm gonna tell you now, brother, that
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't always the way. It wasn't.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: But I remember right there was two places. There was
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a place in There was one in Limerick, but it
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: was only one part of like a sports shop, you
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, where you could buy karate suit
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: you could buy but they would they that they had
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: one little shelf in the corner. But when I would
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: go down to Cork to visit the sisters upstairs in
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Merchants Merchants Key shopping center there do you remember this guy,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was a doctor at all, but
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: they called himself doctor Tony Quinn. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: oh my god.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He had a head a boot in the in
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the in the Jervis Center right like a freestanding.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Well he had a I went to see him talk,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I remember, because he was talking at the at the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: hotel I worked I worked at, but we used to
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: he had his own shop down in a proper shop.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Now this wasn't just a pop up boot and you
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: could get supplements to beate the band. But he had
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the Promax brand, which of course we were all obsessed
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: with his rugby players because they were sponsoring I think WASPS.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Or some team the UK time, very familiar promo.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And everybody was on the promax. And then you had
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: your combo one which had all three inside it, from
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: carb carbs to protein to creating. But you'd get your
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: creating separately then as well, and of course you get
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: your shaker and the things would stink like fuck if
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you didn't clean them. But I mean they had Gainer's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: fuel and I needed to put on size to the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: whole shooting gallery. So I used to be buying. And
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: then of course lads from the limit based rugby team
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and go would you pick me up? And they'd give me.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I would walk out looking like a maniac like and
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: these oversized tubs. And the thing is you'd open up
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the tub and it was half the tub was air
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: because it looks it looked No, it would look so
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: much cooler because you're buying you know, a way a way,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: protein mass, gainer fuel, and it's in the giant thing
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: that looks like a fucking you know, a biocycle unit
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: or a fucking act bomb. But of course it's only
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: like a third of it full. You'd open it up
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and that was put the whole thing was in the marketing.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: You want to pick up this big, cool looking fucking
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: thing because you're heading off up the road. But I'd
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: have about seven or eight of them on the mare.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I looked like I was trying to kill myself with supplements.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: This this is it. We as you mentioned it there,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: we'll just we'll just touch on sports shops as they
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: existed back in the day. These days you go into
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Elvary's or Lifestyle Sports and it's like this multi story thing.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Not the case back in the day. Back in early day.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: We remember when Tom, your local sports shop was where
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: you went to get your jay and hurling gear, football boots,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: maybe runners, maybe karate equipment. And as you mentioned it,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: there tom one shelf where you could buy either protein
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and as the years rolled on, creating as well, and
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: if you needed ticket to a concert you bought them
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: there too.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well I remember we got it was
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: before it became illegal. We were able to do. We
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: were able to buy I can't remember from where, but
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: it was a sports shop. It was Ananlon and it
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: was just ye you would choose. It wasn't illegal at
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the time. It became illegal as a performance and tans
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and drugs. But I mean you would chew the door
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: off the dress room to get out into the like you.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: But it was gay. I mean, I will say one thing,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: it was great. I forgetting you going.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you I got into I got into
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the creating and the protein. Here's the thing as well, tump,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: we're talking about figuring this shit out. We figured it
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: out by ourselves as well, because there was nobody that sagenical, like,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, by the way, sports nutrition, here's the latest,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: no internet to speak of. So you just kind of
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, this one here, eat it, make you big.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: No understanding on my part of Oh, by the way,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: protein and essential building block of the body's muscular system,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: which is in the case of eat this, get big,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: fair enough, drink this before, drink this before I was
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: gonna say a gig. Drink this before a workout, and
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: you'll work out a little bit harder. Fair enough, okay,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And you just kind of figured it out as you
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: went along.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I have only started back taking. I take just a
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: little bit of creating a A in a Smoothie's no protein, right,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: but just it's in a smooth But because I've actually
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: found it has improved my eyesight that was declining. My
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: eyesight was declining. Ye and I've noticed in the last
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: three or four weeks it's actually starting to work again.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: It's starting to clear up what was a bit of
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a kind of a foggy I syndrome that was going on,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: probably based on tiredness too.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: But but now there's dreams of stuff you could read
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: about creating, you know what I mean.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: And it's actually you know, because there were there was
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: talks of banning it. You know, there's talks of banning,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and really it's a naturally it's a naturally creative enzygnment
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: about it. We just don't create enough of it. If
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: you want to over exert yourself, there is you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you don't have that oversight. It's for a normal person
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: who isn't going to bust themselves under a squad rack
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: or whatnot. But we it was only myth. It was like, well,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: if you take this an hour before or half an
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: hour before, or you take this through, if you take
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it just before bed, it'll help.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta tell you, a little bit of
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: red is smoking mirrors and it's all you know, quack
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: science and all this a lot just just anybody here
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: is listening are curious as to what all these pre
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: workout formulas are and these explode and all this kind
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: of crack caffeine, that's what it is.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Lad's touring. Just even just.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Make you a little bit giddy. Catch in there. I
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: looked up Tony Quinn. There, Tony Quinn is still with us.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: He's good, great, well more than in a second. Tom. Yeah,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Tony Quinn did another thing as well. He seems to
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: if I'm reading his Wikipedia page correctly. Here he he
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: is the guy who brought a ducal gym to do
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: to the world's gymal gym is a type of gym.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: You'll find them around the place, and it's a very peculiar,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: one to one sort of training session. It's it's it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: it's it's like Napoleon Damondite, just like try my din
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: we program, okay, aal gym.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's a thing.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a it's a style of it's
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a style of working out. It's it's based on if
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: if I read the literature correctly, it's like you don't
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: have time to spend an hour in the gym, spend
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: ten minutes in in a ducal gym and do one
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: rep max on five machines and that's you don't for
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So the.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Theories sound I guess maybe, uh. And Tony Quinn has
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to get into it here, but
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: he's got a lengthy section on his Wikipedia page marked controversies.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: So let's.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Jesus christis is that what happened to be joined the
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: mid two thousands?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Souse?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I could take in all his fucking stuff, No wonder,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: maybe that's where we're able to get the nandelone.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I don't. Well, listen, Tom, here's what I want to
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: talk about now. So we're rawn fitness fanatics, ready to
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: rock and roll. But not everybody had a gym back
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: in the day. We remember a time when not everybody
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: had a gym, so you had to do your fitness
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: at home. At Now, Tom, if I want to get
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: fit at home, I'll go down to Elvariz, I'll go
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: to used to go to Argus. You could buy a
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: bench on some weights, and you buy stretch bands and
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: god knows what and kick it home and stole and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: all that. We remember when that wasn't the case. But
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: we also remember growing up in the eighties when a
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: certain fitness craze hit and hit hard among a certain demographic,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: that demographic being mothers, aerobics landed and ol ones lost their.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Mind, lost their fucking mind. I suppose it came to Ireland.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: It seemed to be every single morning show on every
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: channel I could think of, seemed to have some ballocks round.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: It probably came like there was a few actors kind
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: of got into it in America back in the seventies
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and agies, like Jane Fonda. I think she was fucking
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: people's backups by some more exercise. But then it was
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the seventies. Jane didn't know what she was doing either,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: do you know.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: But Jane was under a lot of pressure from from
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the US government exactly with statements about the Vietnam War.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: She's like, how about I just get all these ladies fit?
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: But wayan I remember I I It seemed to be
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: an absolute thing of norm Like you'd be watching Channel
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: four and mister Motivator would pop up.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: That's right, mister Motivator would be the one that most
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: people would remember he was he was He didn't have
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: the mister Motivator show, As you said, yourself there Tom
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: he had like a ten minute segment on like GMTV
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: or some such and.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: If ever you'd see if you'd learn nothing from these lads,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: if you didn't none, if ever you saw that when
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the fucking red light comes on, that you go like
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: there was there was no build up to him or anything.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I remember that. It was like you would have to
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: be ready for mister Motivator's slot to go.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: You'd be, you'd be you'd be sitting around with it
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: with the children eating ready break and the school bag's ready,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: and you'd be like, Okay, now this is coming on now.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: The closest equivalent that we would have to mister Motivator
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: today or what he has morphed into down through the years,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: is the Joe Wicks of this world. Just these online
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: fitness guys get fit with Joe Wicks thrown on on
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: a YouTube, draw a YouTube video and do your home
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: aerobics in the morning. That was wildfire in the eighties.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And if you weren't getting it from TV, you were
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: getting it from fitness videos.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fitness videos.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: You would buy a fitness video and it would be
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Beverly Collard or it would be through Time Devene and
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: McCall got in and and through time like pretty much
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of celebrities.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Do you remember, Yeah, there was a lot of celebrity
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Kerry Katona, I think, yeah, like do you remember a guy?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: And it sprang up only because I was looking up
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: this and I I just wiped him from my memory.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: But he seemed to pop up in all these infomercials
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But he did I know, he
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: had his own one and he'd be on Oprah. He
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: he always weirded me out. He had. His name was
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Tony Little, He'd Little. He type him in there. He
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: had a fucking ponytail and like a quiff. Now he
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: was massive, always wearing polar shirts.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: And you see him here. Now, I wasn't that.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: He used to pop up on like fucking Sally Jesse,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Raphael or fucking you know and or she. He pop
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: up on all these things and he do a five
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: minute workout with his l ones But he just seemed
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to pop up fucking everywhere, this guy. But he was
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I could I could understand the one I couldn't really
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: get my head around. And he was your man. Richard Simmons.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Richard Simmons with him in America. I don't know that
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: he ever got all the way over here, but we
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: would know the name that it was a Richard sim
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Simmons might have looked like a fit man.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: No, that's that's what I'm getting to, is like he
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: he this guy looked like like a vaudeville clown or
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: something like, and he was just like he was taking
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: the piss of it. Yeah, that's what I thought for
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: the longest time, because he turned up in movies and
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: they go, oh, it's you know, Richard Simmons.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Is he you know, is he gay? Isn't he gay?
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Obviously I seem to be a running joke, So I
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: never thought he was a real fitness guy. Then in
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: later in life, I went, oh, no, he was. He
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: was a morning fitness guy, like mister Motivator. But then
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: you got to this when it got serious in the nineties,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: chair it got serious with badass people like you had
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Billy Bets, You.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Billy Banks with Tibo he was.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: See I could I could buy into Billy Blanks because
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he was See.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing I want to say with Billy Blanks. Okay,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: they had the ladies money with Jane Fonder. Yeah, they
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: needed to get men doing this ship. Well that's what
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: a smart industry does. You go exactly fifty market share here,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: and they got you get you get somebody who's a
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: world Takwanda champion who's now developed his own fucking yeah.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: He developed all of that time to his own you know,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: his own fucking aerobics thing or whatever. But he he
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: was great on camera. Look look shredded as.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Well, big sharp dude, and the things seemed cool. It
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: was because I was like what we would call boxer
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: size now yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And it was like,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: you know, so it's it's it's not doing little dancings
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: and clappings and and Kate Bush maneuvers. It's like thrown
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: kicks and Thompson whatnot. Okay, you know I could, I could.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I could do that every morning for forty five minutes
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: exactly because it was the lo low price of eighty
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: nine dollars, like.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: There was and then I know there was another one
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: called was it insanity or intensity or something they called if.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: You do it for all these sort of d X
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: kind of things. Yeah, they all started rolling in in
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: the mid two thousands, and even Tom we witnessed, like
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: you know, these things leaving the home and going to
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the parish center. Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, and aerobics at home,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: and if you liked it enough, then you could go
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: to aerobics at the parish center. Put a bin bag
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: on under your clothes, go down to the parish Center,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: do zumba for an hour, lash the sweat out of yourself,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: and then go out and have a cigarette and go home.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Well that's it, and watch much what come from then?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Then s Courcy still survived. I don't know if zoomba
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: has survived, but I know like yoga has survived, pilates
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: has survived. You know, these these things, they all one
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: came with the other.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: You know, it was like what again, so be a
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: tom with the high rocks succeed in the CrossFit. Once
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: people got tired of zumba or they didn't see the
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: results that they wanted from it because you were going
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: for your zumba and you weren't exactly backing it up
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: with a nutritious diet at home, and it's like that
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Zumba's no good. Well, okay, Zumba's no good. How about
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: fucking line dance, aerobics or whatever is the next thing
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: to come along samba dance or some shit like that.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: You know, but that's yeah, that's that is the thing
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that that couldn't have had each one couldn't have happened
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: without the previous one correct on the way in. And
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: it's at no point does it seemed nobody seems to
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: throw the rise up to haven't gone ok? Another yok?
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: It's like cool another yok?
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: You know it is and and I gotta tell your time,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff is not you know, how
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: would I say this not wildly different from the next thing.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: It's it's just like, yeah, it's it's aerobic exercise. You're
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: moving fast, yeah, and repetitively.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Like again, if I suppose, if you if you can
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: put a team to it, like the Tibo, it's going
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: to like it's going to stay cool exactly in your mind.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: If somebody comes this right word, much like me would pee,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I could never fucking figure out what have we done?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: This fucking start on things?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: What is this nonsense?
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: What is this nonsense? Like now you want me to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: throw We're thrown beanbags at each other and stuff, and
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: we're just going to do shutter runs and we're just
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: going to do Can we just fucking play something like
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I can I swing on the ropes?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Can I swing on the fucking ropes?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: It was my adhd as well. I know, I just
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: couldn't stick with fucking I can't be doing ten laps
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: of this?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: No, why about I do it and we'll go yeah, yeah,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: yeah again Tom. It's amazing to say, like, you know
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: that we did live through this, that you know, and
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: it went, it went into the parish Hall and came
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: out of it again. Because for every Zumba class in
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: the parish Hall in the last ten to fifteen years,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: they have seemed to morph into boot camps out in
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: the park. That's why would you pay, you know, insurance
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: to be in a building and pay rates and all
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing when you can get ten like
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: minded individuals to join you in a dog shit covered park. Oh,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: I see it boarpies and star jumps. I see it
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: in the dewy grass. I've seen it in a couple
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: of places. And there's there's in our local park here
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: during the summertime. Now, mind you see it kind of
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: look well, it looks tranquil, It looks.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Like a thing you should be doing. You're out in
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the trees, you're out in nature and I know, and
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: they are starting to introduce it here. I don't think
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: they'll get quite into the California side of things, where
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you have you know, you're fucking anous looking at the
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: sun and stuff like.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: That, all this kind of crass.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: We said that to each other a few times, like,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: but I don't think there's a full episode in the
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: fucking thing. But you know, go to yoga and stuff.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: But I know they're starting with like puppy yoga, ands
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what these things are.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: As as as you mentioned yoga, Tom, I know yoga
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: is thousands upon thousands of years old. In Ireland. It's
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: about eighteen years old. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you that much.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: You know, there wasn't a fucking yoga class on every corner.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: There wasn't a pilates class. I know. Pilates was developed
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: in the fifties or whatever, a you know, military technique
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: or something that eventually got commercialized and put out the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: pasture and eventually landed in the suburbs of character across
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: forty years later. It's amazing to say that wasn't a thing, Tom.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a thing, and it like it's just sprung
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: to mind a woman I know, and this is this
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: is where these things I want to By the way,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: we are not in any way. We are proponents and
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: agreeing with you if you are a jim head. If
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: you're not, we get that too. But it can the
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: long term effects of something like this like boxercise. Now,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you'd go with, you know, fucking
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: zumba or whatever. But a woman I noticed called shaneid Babington, right,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: She's from karacin Shore. She she wanted to just shed
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: a few pounds. In her own story, she was in Australia.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: She's been partying hard for a year. She went, I
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: want to take up a boxer size class. Fair enough,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: meant to go to boxer size but actually went to
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: boxing class. Sible mistake, sivil mistake. But fucking loved it
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: and I got to burn like she never felt in
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: her life. I've immediately had an aptitude for it was
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: immediately put to her, going, you're tall, you're strong. If
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: you stick with this, you might actually get a couple
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: of fights if you'd like. Where is she now? She's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: a pro boxer in Mexico City. There you go, do
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or from just going to
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: the gym to just try and do bottles.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Just not being able to read. If I can hear
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: you right here that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: If you're listening, you know what I'm talking about.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please don't kill me. So yeah, again, amazing to witness,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: you know, and not just not just our mams, but also.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Are literally I just called into my mother on the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: way here. She was like, my wife had bought my mother.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: That's a related Christmas President. Get to give her pilatte
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: socks and shout out to Pilatus by Roots, which is
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: our next door neighborhood who has her own geodome. And
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: you think you think you need to be in a town.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: We you know where I am. Jar I'm in the sticks.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: She is a you don't built at the back of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the house. You can barely get up our road on
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: a Saturday morning with the old ones, the amount of
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: center phase and this and jukes that are blocking that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: fucking road.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, Tom, I'm gonna put one last thing to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: you now, one last thing that we've witnessed down through
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: the years. Okay, so we've talked about there are gyms
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: that grew up in our communities. Okay, if you wanted
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: to go to a gym, you could go to a gym,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: and then we said that, okay, Well, if you wanted
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: to do it at home, if you were shy and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: such like, you could mail order a video and get
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: it posted out you and do it yourself at home,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: and if you grew a little bit of confidence, you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: could get into the community center and do zumba. But Tom,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: what if you wanted to be in shape, but you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: were just a fucking lazy fuck who didn't want to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: do anything. You wanted to get fit quick. You wanted
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: some simple gadget that would transform your life forever, and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: then you come home one night at three o'clock in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: the morning, you turn on the TV. You see an
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: advert for one of the products we're about to tell
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: you here QVS.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: We have seen, yeah, QVC as the as you dust
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the fag esh off your chest to reach for the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: landline and a pen as some you know Chuck Norris
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: is selling here. They what was Chuck's Fitness Total Fitness,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: which is kind of a pilatus machine, you know, it's
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: kind of what it's just chords and.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Stuff like that, all in one home gym.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: He now sells it with his young fo Dakota. Have
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: you seen there? They're just so nice to each other
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: as well, Like but I can imagine Shuck is eighty
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: two shredded by the way still in unbelievable, Nick, I mean,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the rig is savage still for I know that.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: At the same time time, if you're ever going to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: fight him, now as your chance.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I think he's up to his
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: eyeballs onto your tea. He has the heart of an
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: eighteen year old. He would probably punch you to death
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: then die himself. I still know I would. I don't.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think I couldn't even attempt to take no chance.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not on me peak fitness. But Tom,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about a couple of the things
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: that we came to witness, and the one that kind
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: of springs to my mind the most. Now, we talked
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: about Peter Andre all of a sudden showing off these
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: abs that.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: He had, Like, how do I get that?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that was a thing. You and me
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: are soul, Tom, that when we were coming up, you
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: had to do a sit up.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: All the way up, all the way up to all
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: the way, grab the back of your head, lock your
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: fingers and pull your crench, wrench your neck up to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: your knees all the way.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: All the way, and then down down, you know, down
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: through the ears. Someone turned around and went, oh, yeah,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: by the way, no, it's just the top bit of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: that is no good to here, It's just the bottom bit.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: It's just the crunch. It's just the AB crunch.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: That's what you get. That's what you want, you know.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, tying some after doing thousands of
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: these other things, and then TVC said, hey, you know
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: what I'm gonna tell you. You didn't have to do any
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: of that nonsense. What you wanted, Tom was an ab roller.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: It was so this is the big kind of U
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: shape thing that you lie down and put your head onto.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Is that is that the AB.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Roll or the that was your ab roll or these
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: oh these completely owned like a ten year stretch from
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five to two thousand and five. There was
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: one hundred different variations of these, and what it was
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: was basically like a roll frame, a roll cage for
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: your cage for your head, yeah yeah, and two elbow.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Pads and a head pad.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Two elbow pads and a head pad, and you basically
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: when you weren't air and the clothes on it. Right
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: for when you weren't airing the clothes on it, you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: lay down and you got into this contraption and it
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: did the work for you. Apparently, now I've been in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: one of these things. You did not need this machine. No,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: it was the most super perfluous machine I've ever seen
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: in my life.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Like, if you wanted to feel good about yourself, you
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: could rock back and forth. But you're really not getting
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: even the half set up the cherries talk about either,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: But look, people seem to get what they got from it.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: The I want the one, and I want to ask
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: you if you ever tried this one, because I had
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: one of these things. I don't know if it did
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: a fucking thing, because I was doing sit ups at
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: the time anyway, and waited sit up as well. The
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: one thing I actually found best was when you actually
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: you know that I don't know what it was ever called,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: but you'd actually you could you'd kind of crank yourself
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: up off the ground and your and rest on your
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: elbows and two elbow pads.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like a plank board.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: A plankboard is that, and I would bring my legs
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: straight up. I got way better out of that than
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: fucking any rollery thing. But there was electric machines where
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: you'd put six pads on your belly and I would
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: just basically torture you for five minutes or whatever you
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: were supposed to be honest like this, crank it up
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: and crank it down, and really what it ended up
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: being was the lad's giving it a go on different
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: parts of your body and seeing how long you could
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: take it.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: You can stake it. Yeah, I have never tried one
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: of these before my lifetime or Thomson talking about here
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: is what if there still exists today. What you would
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: know as a slender tone machine was like the big
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: was the Big Maje. But there was one hundred of
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: these that you could get and it wasn't, by any
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: sort of a stretch of imagination, a new thing. I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: remember watching the Bruce Lee movie Dragon, the story of
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Bruce Lee, and he had one of them back in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: the sixties. So it was an electrical device that pulsed
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: current into your into into wherever you stuck It's stick
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: it on your mickey, do whatever you want.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: It was definitely born at a fucking torture.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Definitely, you know, because an electric shock was passing through
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: your muscles, they would they would contract, and that was
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: as you know, so just as you were walking around
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the place making yourself a cup of tea and throwing
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the half of it over your shoulder because you were jumping.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: With the jolt all over yourself as well, because you
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: couldn't have no control over your fucking bowel movements.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: But you had one of those, Tom what. I have
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: always wanted to get one of those, just for you know,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: what the hell, let's give it a go. But the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: price was a barrier to entry for me. I could
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: get a roll cage ab roller for like twenty five Europe,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: but a slender tone machine was hundreds, one hundred and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: fifty or some mind it.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Was, But now there was They came down in price
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: as more people jumped on the market. I didn't get
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: the very first one, but it was definitely a drunken buy,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: you know that kind of way. Well, let's get one
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: of these.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you get one on t fairly handy
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: these days.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: This is the thing. Now you might the team of
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: one might kill you. I'm just saying like you are
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: putting electric shocks across your fucking muscles. But they, yeah,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: you would. You would have these pads and they would
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: get it then a certain amount of stickiness, and then
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: you have fresh ones as well, of course, but you'd
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: peel off the thing and you'd get a few goals
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: out of it. And they all had a wire out
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: of each one of these pads, and you would put
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: it whether you want to put it on your biceps
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But the idea always for everybody was always
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: because the hardest muscles to work are like your your
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: stomach muscles, and you would put it on your stomach,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: and you said it. You'd be watching it and you
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: sound like you're having a fucking moment, and then you go,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: after a week or two, you so well ill turn
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: it up to three and say, oh fuckingm gonna piss myself. Okay,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: all right, I'll stay out back at two, Thank you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: very much. I'm pretty sure I didn't get to the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: end of the sticky pads chair. I know I didn't
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: do you know what I will? I have to admit, though,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: right there are it hasn't completely died off. What was
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: the last thing you bought. If you can remember, remember
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: the last fitness.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: The last well, it'll go to show how sitting like
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: standing like legs like chaplain has done me down through
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: the years. Tom. The last fitness related purchase I made
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: was for like a massage gun, which again the thing
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: where the thing, guys were the thing un little you know,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: very recently and I got one of them to suit
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: my injuries.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to show you this.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Can you read the jaw owner?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: That actually is really good. It actually took I used
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: was getting headaches, yes, for whatever again most likely lack
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: of sleep. But that, Joe, It's just a rubber fucking
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: ball that you put in for a minute at a
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: time and whatever it did, it seemed to crack away,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: crack the sides of my head. Okay, the joy you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: know you're your head now. I also got this too
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: because it supposed to be very good for your training
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: with breathing.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, yes, we've spoken about your your issues
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: with your sinus is there?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I'm going to try and up
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: the lung capacity this year. I got that most recently,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm going to explain this device
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: that I bought down through the years, and it was
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: for building four arm muscles and grip yok no no,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a grip yok but a grip yoke would
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: have done the very exact same job.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: What this tom was, was it like they that he
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: had that stillone had in the truck in over the top,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: or he had his own little wire building.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: What it was was if you can imagine a solid
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: plastic golf ball inside a solid plastic tennis ball. You
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: hit me so far, okay, okay, And the solid plastic
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: golf ball on the inside had like a little string
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: on it that if you pulled it, it caused it
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: to spin inside the tennis ball.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes I know. So the inert show
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: would be fucking cranking, like fucking your hand and all
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: you had.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: To do was sort of roll your wrists around and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: the iner shit inside this little gyroscope will be like
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: you you could not hang on to this thing. I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: remember being so fast in your hand and you'd be
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: rolling it and you do it for about thirty seconds
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: and you and you could not hold it in your hand,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: and then like if your thumber out and like that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: drifted over and touched the spinning golf ball, it just
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: shred the finger prints straight off.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all these things were accidentally designed while
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: engineers were making like bearings for a fucking shit, and.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: They were just like there in the lab going like
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: there on each other, like how long can you held
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: on to that? It's like, you tell me your arms
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: real sore over. That all fucking patented and we'll sell
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: it as a as a as a spinny spinny gyroscope
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: for working your forearms.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Fidget spinner for fucking adults, that's.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Exactly what it is. And another big one that I remember,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: and I think one of these ones in the house
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: all right, was a time aster. I remember the time
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: aster I do, which is just Tom. What was the
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: time aster? Other than a spring?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: To her, everything at one stage was spring related when
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: it was fitness, and they caused more fucking injury these things.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: There was a yolk in the house. There was kind
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: of like a row machine, but all it was was
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: two pedals, a long fucking spring like you'd see holding
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: like on the side of a fucking canopy of something,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: and then a handle and you just you pulled it
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: back the way. Now, the shiny pedals that your feet
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: went into. Heaven forbid, you were in your socks because
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: that thing's coming off and it is either going to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: fucking circumcise you or the whole things are just going
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: to take your fucking nose clean off your head. Good.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Look Like there was those spring loaded yokes where you
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: pull them apart for your eyes.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: For your shoulders, like in Gooni's where with the springs
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: that come across.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: And would invariably on the third rep, would you know,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: come flying across and cut your fucking lips off, squeezing nipple,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: squeezing nipple like there was just know when to danger
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: with the spring loaded shit. But there was the six
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: minute abs as well, which kind of always reminded me
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: of the remember the six minute abs, six second six
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: seconds abs. Sorry, this was a notion that if you
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: squeeze this again, another contraption. Yeah, but it was contained
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and like a cool, sleek cobra. It looked like a cobra.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Kai do it anywhere, Yeah, and it was the thing
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: you just you held it under your thighs and you
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: push down against it. But it was just spring loaded. Again.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Fucking fuck knows what the tension level on those springs
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: or how how well how good those springs lasted? Who knows.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: But again another yogurt is like, well, what way can
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: we stick a spring into a fucking thing?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Like it's like it is somebody over in a lab
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: going like, how do we sell springs to fat bastards?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Like put it in a nice blue, blue and blue
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: and red packaging and get get fifty dollars worth of
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: ad time at three o'clock in the morning. And these
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: things at fifty dollars.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: There's some of them. I wonder sometimes are they done
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: nearly as a fucking gag, because I don't know if
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: you've ever seen it, because we have one here in
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: the house because I both she thought they'd be a
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: fucking great joke for her arms. But it's called a
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: shake weight, and you're basically.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Can't believe you bought the shakeway because even when I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: was watching the ad, I was like, you're taking the.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Pens here, yeah, yeah, because and basically it looks like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: you're just fucking wanking off a donkey an elephant. You're
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: just winking of an elephant with two hens.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm over here with my with my two ball
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: gyros called fondling his balls.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: You're around the bank. I'm up the front, waiting on
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: the gravy.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: But but there you go, ladies and gentlemen, we wanted
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: to have a crack with you about all the things
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: we remember about fitness in Ireland before you find folks
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: set off on your fitness journeys in the new year.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go all honest Joe's Jim from Dodgeball,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: but we like you just the way you are. But
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: if you want to lose a bit of weight and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: do whatever the hell you want.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Learn dodge a wrench. If you could dodge wrench, you
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: could dodge dodge ball.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Just just know that all quadures like myself and Tom,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: who existed in the focon of life, we paved the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: way for all your high Rocks classes and your Mars
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: bar flavor protein that you can buy in super value.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: That was us. We did that.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're fucking hemp fucking sourced protein fucking shakes.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I could I could talk all night about the things
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: we didn't have.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Tom, you never mentioned once, You never mentioned once about
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: the noxious farts that were just acceptable as a result
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: of taking protein powder. Right away, do you know what
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Tell you, Tom, I no ship will stand here and
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: say that I was one of the first people in Ireland,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: certainly in carpen Across, have an under armour top. Right.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just wasn't a thing.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you went to the gym in a T shirt.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not this.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: It's kind of stretching and it kind of fucking it's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's so yeah yeah yeah, oh yeah, didn't
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: It wasn't defeating the gear room or no.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: No, you're just gonna say you're a brave soldier. I mean,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: going for luminous pink too is probably an interesting choice.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: But but again, folks, you know where to get us
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: if you want to talk to myself or Tom. We'll
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: be back next week with a conventional episode. Don't you
• 1:14:30
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• 1:14:32
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• 1:14:34
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• 1:14:36
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• 1:14:39
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• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: away to do a push up, I'm away to do
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: it push up chair.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: I'm way to polish off the loss of the selection box.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what is spidl last there
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: and Alf talking about here.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I just I'm looking down at my own hands here.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I lied completely to you and to everybody there, and
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: I can only apologize. I wonder I'm going to go
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: eat a whisper right now?
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• 1:15:21
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