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Colleen Getley: GoGetta CEO on the rise in job hunters using AI to craft CVs · Best of Business

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  Speaker 2: Job hunters are being warned against using AI tools to
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  Speaker 2: craft their cvs. So recent research shows half of New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand job seekers using AI tools in their hunt for
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  Speaker 2: a job. The trend is not only damaging their chances,
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  Speaker 2: but it's also causing a headache for recruiters. To talk
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  Speaker 2: us through the issue and give us some tips on
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  Speaker 2: how to spot what produced cvs, go get a CEO.
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  Speaker 2: Colin Getley joins me. Now, good morning, Colleen.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, how are you this morning?
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  Speaker 2: Very good? Thank you? Can you talk us through the
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  Speaker 2: issues that AI cvs are causing, like why should job
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  Speaker 2: hunters think twice about using them?
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  Speaker 4: Well, AI cvs have been fantastic for job hunters who
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  Speaker 4: find it difficult to put a CV together, and I
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  Speaker 4: think over half of New Zealanders actually do admit to
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  Speaker 4: using a I to create a CV, And hey, why not?
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  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you chuck your chuck your experience into chat,
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  Speaker 4: GPT or one of the other apps and you come
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  Speaker 4: up with.
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  Speaker 3: This beautiful CV.
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  Speaker 4: The problem is that everyone's doing this, and there's also
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  Speaker 4: apps that are able to match up your bot created
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  Speaker 4: CV two job ads and send them out and you
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  Speaker 4: end up all looking the same as everybody else. So
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  Speaker 4: you're minimizing your chances of actually getting the role because
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  Speaker 4: you don't look any different from anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: That's one point.
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  Speaker 2: Another point, and.
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  Speaker 3: Another point is that.
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  Speaker 4: You're we've got we're a weird situation where we've got
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  Speaker 4: AI creating job ads for recruiters and AI creat cvs
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  Speaker 4: for applicants. Yep, yeah, and so they're matching each other
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  Speaker 4: together and there's no no recruiter involved at that point.
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  Speaker 4: So if you understand the stats before AI, if you
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  Speaker 4: send out a CV which was really carefully written all
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  Speaker 4: about yourself with a cover CV, cover letter, et cetera,
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  Speaker 4: you probably send out about thirty well written applications and
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  Speaker 4: yet at least one interview. Okay, the stats now there different.
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  Speaker 4: There's actually you send out one hundred cvs which has
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  Speaker 4: goot like AI created and you want to like they
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  Speaker 4: only get one interview.
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  Speaker 2: So we're using AI to write the cvs. We're using
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  Speaker 2: AI to write the job ad, yes, and then we're
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  Speaker 2: also using AI to read the cvs and narrow down
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  Speaker 2: the candidates correct okay.
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  Speaker 4: Us out interesting that we've got a situation where it's
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  Speaker 4: a very recruitment, it's really admin heavy. Excuse me, but
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  Speaker 4: this is a human to human things. So what we've
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  Speaker 4: done is we've created ourselves an assistant, which is actually
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  Speaker 4: making us it harder for everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: So there's no humans involved at any point really, which
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  Speaker 2: seems ant bit insane.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds really insane considering at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: a human is going to interview the human and a
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  Speaker 4: human actually has to do the job.
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  Speaker 2: So I know that in Australia that they're seeing an
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  Speaker 2: increase in applications for jobs with these machine gun application
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  Speaker 2: approaches where hundreds of applications are created really quickly in
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  Speaker 2: spamming employers. Are we seeing here in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we absolutely are. You'll find that.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot coming in from overseas as well, so
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  Speaker 4: you're getting a lot of international applicants applying for role.
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  Speaker 3: And there are.
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  Speaker 4: So many new AI apps coming out which are able
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  Speaker 4: to upload your CV into and then send it out
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  Speaker 4: without you even thinking knowing about it. You can just
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  Speaker 4: load in hey I have any skills. Any job that
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  Speaker 4: is loaded on a platform job board that just sends
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  Speaker 4: them out.
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  Speaker 2: This is the sort of a nightmare for everybody, really,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. But you know, it's a nightmare for people
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  Speaker 2: trying to get a job, and it's a nightmare for
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  Speaker 2: recruiters as well. Couldn't So essentially, could the AI pack
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  Speaker 2: up that your CV was an AI created and does
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  Speaker 2: that immediately put you in another pile that maybe it'll
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  Speaker 2: get looked at?
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  Speaker 4: It can, yes, but two ways. One is that all
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  Speaker 4: it can check it out. For example, if you've got
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  Speaker 4: a table an your CV, it might flag it and.
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  Speaker 3: Say I can't read it.
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  Speaker 4: Gone, okay, yeah, if you has been I often quote
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  Speaker 4: like design cvs are created in specific software.
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  Speaker 3: If the bot can't read it, then you discarded.
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  Speaker 4: So there can say little things in your CV that
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  Speaker 4: even though you put a lot of work into it,
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  Speaker 4: can discard you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So what advice do you have when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to using, you know, to creating a CV that might
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  Speaker 2: get looked at and might help you get a job
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  Speaker 2: and stand out. Obviously, the first thing is don't do
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  Speaker 2: any sophisticated design. Just write a very simple CV.
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  Speaker 3: I presume, Well, how odd?
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  Speaker 4: Let me just say one thing we're talking about how
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  Speaker 4: to beat the bot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've created to make.
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  Speaker 4: Things easy for ourselves, So isn't that bizarre that we
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  Speaker 4: actually created work for ourselves to do that. But there
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  Speaker 4: are some things that you can do and some and
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  Speaker 4: that is to make your CV do stand stand out.
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  Speaker 4: I would personally, if you put your CV through as
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  Speaker 4: a creator, then relook at it and change your word
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  Speaker 4: into it sounds like you read this, read the CV.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't sound amazing or it doesn't sound like you
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  Speaker 4: at all?
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  Speaker 3: Is it the words that you would normally use.
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  Speaker 4: There's some words that stand out to creators, like to recruiters,
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  Speaker 4: like delve and leverage and if it's been if it's
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  Speaker 4: Americanized spelling, all those things will stand out. Even if
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  Speaker 4: you get through show it or recruiter that your actual
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  Speaker 4: cvs being created by an AI application.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I know, I hear that. These days
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  Speaker 2: it's actually all about the cover letter, not necessarily about
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  Speaker 2: the CV. So when we're applying for jobs online, we
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  Speaker 2: able to put in a very per you know what
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  Speaker 2: is obviously an authentic cover letter.
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  Speaker 3: I definitively would recommend that.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely would recommend that that's the that's the point
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  Speaker 4: where your personality can shine through, and that's that's the
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  Speaker 4: that's once your CIV is through, if you're if the recorder,
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  Speaker 4: then on the short listing gets to read your application,
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  Speaker 4: the first place they're going to go to is your
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  Speaker 4: cover letter and then we're going to find want to
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  Speaker 4: find a little bit of human element in there. The
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  Speaker 4: thing that's missing in all this process, sadly, is that
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  Speaker 4: human intuition. And my concern here for applicants is that
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  Speaker 4: if you don't do that, you're not going to have
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity to stand out from the crowd.
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