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Big Head Mode Episode #134 – Powers · Multiple Nerdgasm

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tonight on big head mode we're talking Powers video game Powers that's cuz of
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course we're reviewing a little bit late but uh definitely worth it life is
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strange joined in the studio by Carlo and Jenna from multiple nerdgasm first
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time on the show Jenna yeah hello nice to be here yeah look thanks for coming
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we got a lot to talk about we've got games um video games uh entertainment
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devices usually in electronic form and all sorts of games just all the games
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we're exploring all platforms were like George Lucas a legend of all systems
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that's all coming up on T Plus's only gaming show big head
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mode [Music]
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that's right you're on big head mode welcome I'm your host Ben O'Brien joined
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now on a on a wonderful yellow new microphone it's Carlo Richie that's
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right uh for those listening at home or on the podcast it is a yellow microphone
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cover and boy it looks fetchy yeah enter the world of radio w woooo h and with a
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wonderful orange a bright orange uh it is Jenna from multiple nerdgasm we've
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now had both you we've had Matt y I mean we've got to get the whole gang on event
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it's going be a bit difficult the other two are not in Sydney oh that's all
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right one's in Singapore you'll have to fly him over we'll Skype him in we'll
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Skype him in yep he won't get to use these fancy mics though we'll Kickstart
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it we'll Kickstart it cuz hey look I mean there are there are more ridiculous
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things to Kickstarter uh I mean I wanted I wanted to talk about this later but
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did you guys read about the Star Wars game Kickstarter no this is this is
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pretty incredible uh I mean we all love Star Wars right who doesn't and how much
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would you love a great just Star Wars open world RPG well they tried to make
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one it was awful they've made two now and they're both awful what RPGs yeah
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what not the Republic think MMO RPG the stuff of
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Dreams know that would be great I know well that is exactly uh that ex exactly
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what this young man Devin trip thought can he legally do that no no no he can't
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uh and he practically can't do it either he as a as a single person has
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kickstarted um what what he's just called on Kickstarter Star Wars open
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world RPG he wants 200,000 because hang on there's a great quote there just he
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didn't know how much it would cost he just figured that seemed like a good
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amount yeah more than that and it's estimated to
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release in December 2017 what are the tiar do you get any
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other there were four there were four reward tiers the first two were the same
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reward which was just a signed letter that says thanks from him then it was a
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copy of the game and then it was like if you paid 1500 you might you'd get named
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like a you know a lightsaber or a planet it wasn't specific but I I love this guy's
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optimism cuz there is no way in hell this is going to the rights there's like
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literally everything that could be against you to make a game is against
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this guy he he doesn't have he has a list where he talks about the risks
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involved and one of them is like don't have any professional game
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development it's fantastic it's so funny um actually that brings up an important
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point though and that is I heard Whispers And I you guys might know if
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these are true Whispers that BioWare got the right to an unnamed Star Wars game
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is that right uh I believe it is well EA got have all the rights now to Star Wars
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games and when they first got the rites there were three Studios that were
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working on games one was dice the other was visceral who made Dead Space yeah
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and then the other was meant to be supposedly BioWare yeah um but it seems
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like that visceral will be the next one to be sort of revealed so B are watch
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this space scenario yes you want a Mass Effect Star Wars yeah that's that's all
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that's all we want wouldn't it be amazing just as a renegade choice you can just force
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Landing someone while they SP while they're speaking
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now speaking of I mean because obviously car I know you're a huge fan of Nazi Del
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Republic big fan we we just started literally like two minutes before the
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show started we just started talking about um if you could erase your memory
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of a particular game so you could play it over again a fresh what games would
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you play yeah and we were talking about um Jenna suggest you suggested BioWare
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Bioshock just all the bowar them the whole catalog bios the
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original it just the story of that game would be so incredible to live again
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without remembering yeah absolutely and I guess Ben you're wanting me to say
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Nazi Old Republic so that I could you know relive all of those you don't have
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your answer I think bio I think Bioshock is a good one I really think it is um
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that's that's pretty tip to it's pretty solid because there's some games you
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don't want like games that had sort of bummer endings like like uh Red Dead
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Redemption great game but it got darker and heavier as it went on whereas like
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whereas if I could just play the first 20 minutes of that game and then nothing
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else it would be like great yeah yeah or just play the bit where you're just
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running your ranch with your family and everything's great and just Sho yeah
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shooting crows off the water tank yeah what a fun game that yeah that would be
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amazing in fact just start from there as well and miss everything before that um
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no I'm surprised you didn't say the Mass Effect Trilogy cuz that would that would
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be a great thing to do it would be really cool to play through again but
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part of the reason that I think I enjoy it so much is that like each time I play
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it through I get to learn more about like different characters and what
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different decisions have ultimately outcom you know so yeah that's right
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like with Bioshock it's just one story the whole way you don't really influence
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it too much and it's such an incredible twist you know like that it would be it
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would be amazing to have that again it turns out they were in Space
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the whole time turns out it was just a it was a sort of a metaphysical space not
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that it was 1958 um yeah that' be a great one I like and you were saying before that you
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you're finally trying to finish tomb raid the def Ed I'd happily erase my
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memory of that and all the Batman games I think the Arkham games my only
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complaint that I have with um the only complaint that I have with Tomb Raider
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at this stage is that there are so many little mini challenges and it does feel
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a bit awkward to sort of be like oh yeah hold on guys just you wait for that boat
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I got got to find me some eggs yeah I agree and it does sort of
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feel a bit when a developer does something like that it's of like hey
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look at this amazing story we've made but also keep an eye out for those flags
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well it was like with Zelda where they're like you have to do this genon
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is going to kill everyone he's like cool cool do you have need help with these
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chickens I yeah see I that that was most of my experience of uh Fallout 4 which
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is just like you've got this incredibly personal story that you've got to track
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down the this this you know family member and then it's just like but also
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while you're here just you know explore well no have a bit of fun that's the big
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problem that since since morrowwind all of those big games have had huge
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problems with is just in in morrowwind it was like they encourage you to
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explore to say hey before you do this Mission why don't you go on and join
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some girls and become really powerful but then every other game after that
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it's sort of been like you got to get there otherwise the whole world's going
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to collapse yeah tumerator especially when you're like your friend is in
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danger you have to rescue Sam and you're like yeah yeah cool I will just want to
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collect some things this is really interesting to me but especially like in
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scarm if you do it all in the other order like you could be the head of the
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Mages Guild and then go back to some really lowlevel main story Quest and
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they're like who's this here Bloody Chicken Chaser like uh I mean you know
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you might not have heard of me I'm the most powerful warlock in the entire
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North Region of of your country no I ain't never even heard of
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you yeah yeah good times though yeah good classic
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Bethesda I like maybe if I could just erase like portions of games for my
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memory just for my own sake because they were bad yeah or just Char like if I
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could get rid of Kaden or Ashley from the Mass Effect games you don't like
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Kayden and Ashley no they're awful they're awful poor poor Ben doesn't understand the
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games I um I kept uh even though I hate Ashley the
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most I kept Ashley alive live in my subsequent playthroughs just so that I
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could watch her die at the end of mass viic 3 yeah that really brutal way bur
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in Hill Commander great and I don't regret a minute of
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that would you delete anything from your memory Jenner of just specific parts of
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games of just specific Parts like because I didn't like them or because
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yeah yeah or just if there was anything that you could just specifically take
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out of a game o I'll have to give that a minute because I I feel like if I was to
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take something out I'd be like wow that game was terrific exctly I want to go
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back and play it again would be my way and you delete Mar have to play it
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again I really love my time with aliot colon Mar but for some reason all I can
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remember is the opening titles she had a great menu screen yeah
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I remember tears when I finished were they Joy I don't know better find out
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now where did I put my copy wait why there like shards of a sheded disc in my
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game drawer we got two copies of that game so we could play
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together worst purchase oh man that is did you guys go through all the way
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through oh we didn't even make it all the way wow I think we did three player
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it was uh Luke from multiple nasm as well and um we tried to record it even
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like this is not even entertaining I've heard that though I've heard that you
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can't actually record it it's not physically possible like no human made
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equipment can capture any Vision or sound from that game it just sort of it burns itself
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automatically harrowing harrowing look let's go to a song This Is The Fallout 4
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main theme Acappella version what that's right found on YouTube so what do you
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know uh we'll be back after this to talk about show and tells you're on 2R 88.5
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FM and we're back we're back that was
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the Fallout 4 main theme in AR capella one bloke one bloke making all the
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noises with his mouth that's pretty pretty good is it though no it is it's
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impressive there's a lot of that uh you see a lot of that on YouTube like
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Acappella seems to be the the thing for gam maybe we should do that we should
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make our own like deliberately like not deliberately but it would be bad well
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Liam and Daniel in bonus stage like in the bonus stage band they're well
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specifically Liam is in a um AC capella group we haven't got time for that
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professional business I'm talking raw Street Acappella you know have you heard
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smooth mcro I have yeah we played a lot of his stuff yeah smooth MC long beard
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long hair the best thing about seen that guy best thing about is just how happy
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he is to be doing aella there with his cat and just looks really happy Yeah
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Yeah Boy Acappella can bring joy can't it yeah all right uh look let's go on to
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show and tell Carlo well what what have you got to show and or tell this week
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well I I Revisited a classic strategy games
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soundtrack I love n knowing what you're going to talk about find there was a
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series of games which unfortunately isn't being made anymore it was called
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the Sierra City game City Builder city building series um which is made by
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Sierra games which is now a defunct I think they got um taken over by
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Activision or something like that I'm fact checking everything you're saying
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by the way um and they made this series of games which are extraordinary and the
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best one of the lot really to check out is Zeus um which was it said in Greece
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you build ancient Greek cities and has like the most incredible voice acting
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cast and it's so hilariously funny um but these look really cool so it's just
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Sim City but for historical time periods yeah and you're just building yeah
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building these cities but it's like Zeus is kind of really fun like it's it's it's not
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particularly historic accur like you'll build a temple and then the God dianis
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will live in your city and he'll sort of like bring wine to the people and it's
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it's not as gritty and realistic as Sim City was it's so comic like um I was
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quoting them the other day that's what what brought it up was my my friend and
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I were quoting it cuz we were out up in our hometown and we were like there's
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iron and them their Hills and I'm going to get me some which is one of the lines
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like when you every time you click on a guy like unrest in the city shut your
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mouth it's nothing I can't handle like every it was awesome and uh the the
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person who did I think it might have been the same voice actor was definitely
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inspired but the person who was the homeless man was the same as old Gil
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from The Simpsons like thrown out of my home but anyway the success to that was
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a game called Emperor which was much more serious but had an extraordinary
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Chinese soundtrack um of like traditional Chinese instruments and it's
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really great so I really recommend checking it out well you know if you
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told us in time that's what all the music on the show could have been oh I
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don't know it's it's it's very atmospheric I don't know that you'd want
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to you know play it on the radio maybe next time no that's all we'll play next
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show it's just like minutes of definitely check it out great songs in
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it there we go listeners what what's the name of that actual album it's called Uh
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Emperor rise of the Middle Kingdom OST all there we go YouTube that dear
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friends and uh report report back to us
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um that came out you know I think 2003 yeah I mean I mean Googling it now
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I recognize the covers which means it's sort of semi- recent yeah but Zeus and
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Poseidon are classic games and they're very very uh cheap online like you can
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get them for $5 for the two games okay great and they're definitely worth it
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there we go that's a solid gold Carlo guarantee two thumbs
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up don't trust him um okay Jenna uh what what about you what have you got to show
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us show the car show you a bit of an old game okay but it's coming back it's
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coming back it as old as Carla's game it's not as old as Carla's game so I
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guess I will there thrown out of my home gone home is a game from uh 2013 I
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believe however it's being released on the Xbox Xbox one and PlayStation 4 on
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Tuesday so I mean it is it's it's relevant it's timely i' never played
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gone home but I've heard everything about it is gone home it's like set in
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Alaska or Minesota no no oh are you thinking of the little Eskimo game for
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neverone the one that's like it's like you going you're on a trip home and it's
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sort of you like it's this girl going home and like the sounds this landscape
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is like all these like snowscapes with trees no it's the whole game takes place
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sounds L though it does find out what the game is I will find out this is the
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one that's the mystery of like you come home and it it's a mystery but it's not
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it's it feels like it's more of a mystery than it is so it's about a girl
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it's just an interactive story a girl that's been backpacking for a year and
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she comes home and her family's not there great family I know who are like
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oh you've been gone a year we'll be out it's just like home alone again then you
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have to set series of traps for a bunch of bumbling she's um her family's moved
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also so they say find your way to our new home and we won't be there so she
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gets in and no one's there and by walking around and picking up things and
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exploring the house you get the story of what's going on with your parents and
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where your sister is and it's pretty amazing because in that year your sister
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has grown quite a bit and I'm looking at it now it looks like
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a it they've given it a kind of like kind of Gothic horror it it does feel it
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feels like a mystery like what happened what happened to the parents where is
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everybody didn't they establish though that it's uh I mean this was this is
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very Nash but one of the people who worked on I think had TI to System Shock
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the game franchise and he said that it's in the same universe as System Shock a a
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few of the guys who made it worked for 2K in a rational oh yeah that would be
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it then so I think they he like there egg that there's a thing from System
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Shock in it and they were like yeah look it's it's in the same universe right so
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it could you know it could be dark and Gothic and that's coming out pretty cool
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it's yeah it's coming out on Tuesday on the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 it
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only took a couple of hours to play but I mean I played it in one sitting
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because like I have to know what happened where is everyone I really love
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those games that that are simple and easy to play but really I mean you don't
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do anything you click on things and it's just I mean there are games out there
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where you do too much you feel like a detective give me less to do that's all I'm
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asking like as we were talking about before BioShock Infinite would have been
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terrific if we didn't have to shoot anything yeah the first like 20 minutes
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of that game is the best part of the whole game yeah yeah yeah before the
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town's people disappear I made that first like portion last about an hour or
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more just sort of like walking in every shop and sort of really studying the
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baseball goes downhill and you really does you notice it as well in just the
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level design like there is so much to see and to do in that first towns people
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even there there's so many unique signs and then everything after that becomes
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much more generic you know like sprawling empty zones like the same
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poster over and over again you know yeah on the beach every woman's face looks
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the same it's terrifying but that's why I didn't I mean I really looked forward
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to Dishonored yep and I found it the same thing like that was a game that
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would have been so much better if it was more about choice and less about like
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you know go here kill these people but the choices everyone look the same
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everyone had that same awful the I quite like this on it I just am not too into
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stealth games but there are some really interesting effects that there are
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choices that you get to physically make like you can go oh I'm going to be I'm
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not going to kill anyone in this Mission and that will affect the story and if
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you don't get if you if you're not seen by anyone that affects it as well like
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our friend Neil who was playing that game he got through the whole game
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without ever being spotted and without ever killing anybody and so in later
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missions people are like there's a ghost like pretty awesome that's great yeah
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what's the other game like that mdal GE solid five where depending on how like
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so early on like there's heaps of bases that are pretty easy to kill and so if
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you just kind of mercilessly hunt and kill them early on it changes how well
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equipped the enemies in that base are like the patrols get bigger if you
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attack a lot at night they start carrying like flash lights if you just
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openly go and just beat them up yeah or
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flashlights um car always corrects my
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like my regional pronunciation of things data data he likes that
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um uh oh yeah they get like more armor and stuff or they carry Shields and so
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like I I just went so gung-ho in the first two hours of that game I was just
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like decimating everyone and then the rest of that game was just brutally
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annoying for me cuz everyone every base was just full of guys just this sort of
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like RoboCop esque dude classic Gods
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right um the thing I wanted to talk about which uh is probably my favorite
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gaming news story uh ever is that there is going to be no Assassin's Creed game
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this year didn't they just announce Egypt yeah yeah yeah but it's it's not coming
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out this year also isn't there one not a full Assassin's Creed game but there is
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something oh that Chronicles India that doesn't count as far as I'm concerned
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really I mean it's still part of the franchise yeah I mean they announced it
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last year it was meant to come out last year as well but they like those
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annoying like sort of 2.5d sort of like arcade gamy sort of
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thing what I loved about it is just that like the the whole Assassin's Creed
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franchise is so overdone that it was a new story to say no Assassin's Creed
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came this year like that's but there's the must have seen that and just going
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oo okay but Egypt how do you feel about that I don't know like my feelings on
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assass grade is I don't care where all history is interesting just make a good
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game you know like uh the same a
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different skin every time like Unity like the French Revolution is a really
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cool period of history and that game was so BL and so it's like look I don't like
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wherever you want to say set it in the 70s you know I don't care just do
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something to make it more ridiculous now you know making fun give me give us a
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give us a Cold War era Assassin's Creed where no one trust
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anyone' be great uh look let's go to some music this is uh Treasure Trove
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Cove from banjo Kazi be back after this here we
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[Music] go now
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Carlo in the break there you've been furiously Googling to try and figure out
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what this game is that you thought was going home so I'm going to give you in
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one of the dtas or Iowa I'm going to give you I'm going to time it I'm going
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to give you 15 20 seconds I'll say 20 seconds to describe this game and then
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it's up to the listeners to try and identify it based on your description
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have you played this game no no okay it's on special on hang on okay ready go
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20 seconds it's now a game with gold like it's there's a discount for gold
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Gold members on Xbox one it's set in a snowy Tundra like Minnesota Dakota it's
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about a girl coming home and it's about letters and phone messages between her
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and her mother okay you got eight you got seven more seconds um I don't know
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very much about the game it's very cheap very it's like six bucks and there are
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five episodes there are five episodes I think bang oh wait no no not life is
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strange played that we we are we are literally about to
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that episodic that's a good clue though episodic that would narrow it down
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surely and if it's a list of Xbox games right now of the gold reward list is at
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home you have the power listening to the podcast we did it I'm I'm going to
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forbid you Carlo from doing any more research really like you're not allowed
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to look it up anymore and it's up to the listeners oh man you got it guys
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I and people listening on the podcast they found it yeah they found it some
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time but little did they know that finding that game was just the start of
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a whole mess of trouble um let's talk powers guys cuz we're reviewing life is
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strange which is all about the power to rewind time and it did make me think
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about like how cool Powers have been and can be in video games yeah um I mean the
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rewind time thing I for me goes back to Prince of Persia um that's like a mess
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rewinding time it it really is how much would being able to change everything
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and you can't keep track of what actually happened yeah and then it
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depends how far you can rewind like days and then everything's
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different possibility that you've created you've split the path of time
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and You' created a second version of yourself that's having a really awful
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time but would you but honestly though would you think about that if you had
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the power to go back in time wouldn't you be like eh that's alternate reality
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Ben's problem you know and I don't have to see that guy that's the nature of I
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mean technically we're making you know with every decision is like potentially
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branching off of ulate path I know yeah but you're not living them twice yeah
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but you know you don't have to see it you just go boy gone back suck to be
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that version of me it's like that great gwth ptro movie you know um where you
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know Cruisin they was singing what they was singing in the that me
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be I know what you're going for
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there terrible sliding doors but I mean that's a great time
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travel games are always ways I think more stressful than they should be I
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mean the I the freedom that you would think uh having time travel would allow
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you it just makes you think like have I done it right too many decisions totally
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I mean Ma's Mas is like that as well go back well this is the thing and and do I
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undo everything that I've already done as well cuz it's not all bad yeah yeah
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well I still think the best time travel game for that is Majora's Mask because
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there's no perfect playthrough you can't do everything in 3 days so you have to
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there has to be a point where you go you know what they're not going to get saved
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down on out on you know the ranch they're out the the aliens they can have
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them sacrifice yeah you got to make that sacrifice sometimes and that's pretty
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brutal that's um yeah would you say that's the best time travel game M your
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mask i' yeah yeah that I've played yeah life is strange is really cool because
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it actually dealt with the repercussions of time travel yeah and it kind of has
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two signs of time T I guess it has that sort of shortterm rewind like I really
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like the way you use that for social situations like H I said the wrong thing
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in that conversation go back don't mention the dying
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mother yeah yeah I really liked how that
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though I think like n use it no like everything I do I sounded like an
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go back go back but it it makes you appreciate how much of a nightmare
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Groundhog Day would have been to the living in it if you make a mistake now I
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have to go and live through my entire day again but he didn't get to choose I
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know I know do you know the the writer um I can't remember his name but you
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know he was that comic that did Ghostbusters and things oh um Harold
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Ramos is it Harold Ramos yeah he said that when he wrote Groundhog Day He
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imagined it being somewhere in the like the realm of 10,000 years of worth of
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that day wow really yeah yeah that's awful yeah yeah and he revised it like
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more recently he revised it oh probably about 60 years 30 60 years what would
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you I mean this is a very different conversation now but like you have like
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24 hours you just pick a direction and just if you were in it trapped in it for
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that long you just start leaving you'd just be like end up in the same place
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every day so now you're just traveling for 24 hours and then you wake up you
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become an expert of like what is 24 hours away in every direction that's the
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whole point Grand Hog Day is they're trapped in that City cuz they're snowed
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in they can't get out leave you just leave or learn well I guess every time
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you die in the snow you wake up again in the town so well it could be I'm
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thinking like Edge of Tomorrow like you'd gradually become a real hardened sort of
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Merv you'd eventually learn how to not die in the snow who's to say that he
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didn't I mean he learns how to sculpt ice so that's true yeah for survival
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purposes um back on the subject of powers briefly um I feel like it's an
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obvious one but I still haven't really experienced it done well
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flight you know like like where a character where a person can just sort
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of just an average person just a normal person like Superman style can just fly
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like it's always just using it to change light bulbs and things it's always
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awkward yeah what's the game here going home but with
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flight yeah just imagine that in that game rather than moving you're actually
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just hovering slightly ever so slightly above the ground just what you don't
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realize is that every first person shoter you've ever played You' actually been
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levitating you're actually you're just you're just a head a disembodied head
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that just hovers around I think banjo kazui speaking of the song we just
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played did a pretty excellent job of flying you still needed those pads and
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you needed feathers like I hate it when a game makes you powerful but then puts
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an arbitrary limitation on that power like if I can fly Just Let Me Fly you
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want to be all powerful do you Ben well you then scale up chall game if that's
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yeah the purpose of this game is just to fly stuff out there you know like um
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flight simulator did really good on the par
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flight yeah that's true that's true actually there was a really good flight
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simulator that was like um you were Superman yeah that was one see you know
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what maybe I just won a good Superman game it hasn't been one of
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them yeah that's what you're hanging out for B go back and play Superman 64
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That's a classic all that toxic ass yeah that game scared me U what
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about you Jenna any powers that you'd like to see in a game oh that I would
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like to see or that you enjoyed see I really I'm a I'm a fire Mage at
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heart you just want to watch the world oh yeah absolutely and I'm always evil
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in video games too I think that's just how my heart is just so much more fun to play like
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that so a destructive power basically yeah I just want to burn things down so
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I love playing games like Diablo and where I can use my my magic yeah I love
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that to torch torch things yeah to torch things yeah it's always nice in a game
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where your power can actually sort of affect the environment in unusual ways
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like it's I don't know if you classify as a power but the the songs in the
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Zelda games like it was always a fun game figuring like unlocking the song
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and then figuring out what song affected the world yeah yeah and I like it when
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you can do that with with in games you know oh I can burn I can burn my way
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through that field this actually brings out through that family of farmers oh
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God no man hey you're the evil one I'm
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just he's just giving you the Tinder yeah I mean it would be cool to see a
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really cool open world Avatar Style game well you weren't the Avatar you just
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picked one bending element and you just sort of lived a life in there or maybe
30:53
you're a cabage merch fun but it was a very quick game yeah cuz I mean would
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just love like imagine a you know you only see such a glimpse of that world
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but like the Earth Earth bending is my favorite bending and you see Earth
31:06
Kingdom Nations and it always made me think like why the hell did the Jedi
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Temple have a doorway you know these are people that can like manipulate time and
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space why wasn't there like you know in omashu the city's gates are just living
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Stone and they just open them open it yeah like why didn't the Jedi Temple
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have that they would never have been able to be attacked by anybody who
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wasn't a Jedi you know look if we could question a lot of things that the Jedi
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did in those prequel movies yeah what's the problem what I don't mind sand you
31:35
know it's s all right I don't know problem is very hard to bend it is but
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worth it when you can uh bu where would make a killer avatar game I know now I
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want one thanks Carla I'm thinking like Dragon Age Orin you pick you pick a
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nation and that like that your avatar starts as and it changes the whole game
31:55
like you start aligned to that Nation But ultimately you got to bring them all
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together and we just have to hope that Disney continues to grow as an
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entertainment ire Empire and eventually buys nickel that's the one that yeah I mean
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eventually they're going to own all of
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us so or D Martino and um the other one
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the other one make a you know who you are you're well loved and remember if you're
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listening we love Avatar did some great stuff um make a uh make some game with
32:26
Bowe yeah or they convert their new book that's not owned by Nickelodeon or I think it's
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just de mintino made it or can they just do a new thing like pick pick an avatar
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that hasn't been fleshed like I don't know the second or the third Avatar no one
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knows she too def you already know her whole story you just want col also she's
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voiced by Jennifer hail and bware would never have a protagonist voiced by Jennifer
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hail uh let's go to some music and then uh talk life is strange this is piano
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Fire by Sparkle horse from the life of strange soundtrack but not exclusively I
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think this is what the kids call popular music we back after
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[Music]
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this well we're back with some pretty amazing news breaking
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news Nate or that's drudik on Twitter has uh has found the mystery game that
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Carlo so well described I found them the game is 34s home well done Nate well
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done Carlo well done everybody set in Nebraska yeah I mean you just as Carlo
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said kind of close and like looking at the images of it you don't have a lot to
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work with it's just a cornfield black and white cornfield but boy that game looks riviting
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uh we're just reading the plot game follows the struggles of one family uh
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the protagonist named Kelly is driving through rule Nebraska when her mother
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calls sparking a conversation O classic phone calls Mom that's what happens
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sometimes you get calls and you're doing stuff who what sorry I'm driving I'll
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call you back yeah credits it takes place over five
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episodes yeah it takes a while for her to get back CU then she keeps forgetting
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you know she's got stuff to do pulled over for talking on the phone yeah but
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hey you know what is a good episodic look not making fun of that I haven't
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played it it could be great but what is a good game that we have played life is
34:24
strange life is strange and like it's such a bummer that we we waited until or
34:30
that we we both didn't finish it until the new year cuz this totally would have
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been on the list for game of the years absolutely I think yeah it's a great
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game Jen have you played it no um Ben told me today that you guys wanted to
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talk about that and I was like I've got like an hour so I watched a playthrough
34:47
of the first episode oh but that's about all so I know what it's about and now I
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want to play it it was amazing for me because I didn't know about the time
34:56
traveling thing benj just said got to play this game so I got into it and
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thought it was some like I guess I'll find out what the point is and then
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suddenly I travel through time like oh God this is all the things I love no
35:08
it's pretty intense the way that you find out that you can it is very intense
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for high school yeah yeah it's actually a really interesting game because it on
35:17
a surface level it deals with a lot of like quite significant issues you know
35:22
that are you know like I would say affect a lot of people in high school
35:25
like it affects bullying um drugs domestic violence
35:31
um and you and various sort of ideas around popularity and figure and body
35:37
type and then it um it on the other time like deals with this really intense
35:43
murder mystery and and time travel like it's sort of like if you combined like
35:48
Twin Peaks with like just a really good like teen drama yeah it did have a real
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twin Pixy Vibe well there's they must know it too cuz there's one like one of
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the things in the game is sort of it's the Collectibles of this game is that
36:02
there are photo opportunities and one of them is in the public restroom of the
36:07
diner someone's written fir walk with me on the on the mirror like it's yeah know
36:14
and Chloe's Chloe's license plate is Twin Peaks yeah yeah like but it's not
36:20
just that how did you guys make this connection we got there but I men's all
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reading graffiti um but it's not just that like it's sort
36:30
of like any sort of weird surreal kind of horror or sci-fi like there's a lot
36:34
of references to a lot of different things I did get a kind of an Alan wakey
36:38
vibe from it yeah yeah yeah the it also reminded me like it took a a little bit
36:44
from Butterfly Effect I think um you know it's cuz Ashton koer was in
36:50
it um you know there was some real there were some real um quite clear borrowings
36:56
from that and from Groundhog Day as well and also it reminded me it reminded me a
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lot of a video game um I'm not sure you guys play it called
37:05
Fahrenheit yeah yeah Fahrenheit was this game where basically you woke up having
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murdered a man in a toilet and you had no recollection of doing it and you had
37:14
to choose how you disposed of the body how you interacted with the cafe the
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cafe that you were in afterwards and then how you left and then that would
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affect the entire game that just that initial decision it's it's made by the
37:25
same guy who made um like heavy rain Beyond Two Souls um and sort of like one
37:31
of the first like sort of big console interactive movie kind of games I guess
37:37
so does that mean it's PlayStation exclusive no it was it was and Xbox yeah
37:42
I think Indigo prophecy is what it was called in um that's right in some places
37:47
I I always forget which one we actually had and yeah there were so many multiple
37:51
endings it was yeah it was pretty interesting as a game it it was a great
37:55
game for actually letting you f but the story keeps going like a
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character could just sort of die and I was like well that character's dead now
38:03
you these other characters reacting to that character's Death Or you could or
38:07
you could lose your sanity um sort of similar to um what's that other game
38:13
etal Darkness yeah but yeah to go back to life as strange I I found it a really
38:18
interesting like it was a very compelling story like I I found it very
38:21
difficult to stop playing through the chapters I played them all in a row and
38:25
it was very difficult to stop because I think when you add the Intrigue of a
38:28
murder mystery it's something that just we instinctively sink in on you know
38:33
like unpacking Clues and wanting to find out see I didn't I didn't get that from
38:36
the first episode now I want that yeah yeah yeah right right of course would
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you say that that that's what resonated with you the most the mystery or the
38:45
Intrigue um that was certainly the thing that was driving me driving me through
38:50
the game certainly I love the I love Max as a main character she's fantastic
38:54
because it's just she might be one of my favorite prot agonists definitely one of
38:58
my favorite female protagonists she was was just really interesting because she
39:03
wasn't really a hero like it she was it was mundanity played so well I think you
39:09
know like your you felt your reactions to the world were really right um and
39:15
there was a decision that still haunts me after the game is I I overwatered my
39:19
plant yeah and I still go like God damn it Le you should have re well the worst
39:24
thing is cuz it does that Telltale thing at the end of a chapter where it shows
39:27
you what decisions you made compared to what decisions other people made but
39:32
then it also shows you like things that you missed and that's what like that's
39:36
what bothered me cuz it's like you have this power of time travel and it's like
39:39
you want to you want to perfect life and it's like oh someone wrote something
39:44
mean on like uh or I could have like left a nice message for a friend on
39:49
their door or something to make their day better it's like all those yeah and
39:53
you're totally right K it's lots and lots of small little things like you
39:57
know you've got to go meet a friend and on the way you see this girl in your
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class get hit in the head with a football and you can you can you can
40:05
slow time or rewind time and just warn her it's just like oh thanks Max you
40:09
know you're always looking out for me and it's such a tiny thing but like this
40:13
one girl has so much stuff happened to her like gets splashed by the car all
40:17
these little things and you kind of realize after doing all these small
40:20
things that in this person's eyes you're like you're a hero you're a hero like
40:24
you're really looking out for them and it's sort of like and and everyone's
40:27
start sort of saying wow Max you're like you're really cool and you sort of feel
40:31
like it's sort of I don't it really resonated a lot of responsibility it is
40:35
but it sort of resonated this idea that it's like you know what like you can
40:38
change everyone's everyone's Day by just doing the smallest thing which I thought
40:43
was a really nice message for a kind of teen high school sort of drama yeah but
40:48
what I what I enjoyed about it is there's an in there's like in games
40:52
where you have this decision um based uh gameplay there is a there's always that
40:59
feeling particularly if you play it where you don't go back on your
41:02
decisions you know like if you make a decision you just stick with it there is
41:04
always that instinct to go oh did I make the right decision I want to go back and
41:07
this is a game that actually lets you make those decisions in in the game over
41:12
and over again and knowing those two outcomes or multiple
41:19
outcomes is what will determine what your ultimate decision is and that's
41:23
really terrifying to have all of that information and not really knowing where
41:28
it's going in many ways it makes it more mature I think than say The Telltale
41:33
Games version where you're making a decision without knowing the outcome and
41:37
that sort of tricks you sometimes it's like oh you know I tried to do this and
41:40
this happened but life is strange there a lot more mature decisions it's like if
41:45
you say this it'll hurt this person's feelings you'll achieve this outcome but
41:49
it's still like it's a shitty thing to say yeah and like and you have to just
41:53
sit with the weight of there is no just one good one bad it's just shades of
41:57
like everything's going to have effect yeah exactly and some and I think I when
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I was first playing this game I played it through with that Telltale mindset
42:05
and I be like oh this is the obvious good choice but something's bad is going
42:09
to happen for and you make these decisions but that
42:14
you're never really sure if you have made the right decision like both
42:18
decisions don't won't have a huge impact like that's the thing that I enjoyed the
42:22
most really was that you would make these decisions which at the time seemed
42:26
hugely relevant and you know gamechanging but it were so
42:31
insignificant in the grander scheme of the game but you know that's that's kind
42:34
of so you know that the powerful mundane decisions that you make every day you
42:39
know yeah but you also like that that power makes you really protective of
42:43
your choices cuz you sort of go well I mean yeah I've got the absolute freedom
42:48
to choose however this goes but once I've stuck with the decision and then
42:51
walk out the door I don't have any choice anymore and so you agonize over
42:55
it more now that's weird though if you can rewind time it's just the walking
42:58
out the door bit you're like well that's well that's that's where I can't do
43:01
anything yeah well it's cuz she sort of has like a very limited it's like she
43:05
can rewind time for like 5 minutes or so and and there are instances in the game
43:11
where um in fact sorry I'm not going to spoil anything in particular but um
43:17
there are some great moments where you've gotten really used to having this
43:19
power and all of a sudden sort of limitations or occasions start showing
43:24
up where Max starts to realize that it isn't this Limitless thing and it really
43:30
it really like sort of throws you for a loop when you've gotten used to this no
43:34
consequences yeah exactly you're best friends with everyone because you've
43:38
navigated every conversation so that you've worked in like their favorite
43:41
food and like hey I heard you really like this film oh yeah it's pretty great
43:44
you know and then all of a sudden just bang and and you're like you're just
43:48
like a normal person again you have to make a decision and it was great yeah no
43:53
really really definitely wish I had played it in time to put it in game of
43:57
the year because it is it is a really tremendous game um so you're going to
44:01
have a lot of fun playing it Jenna I will I am going to try and race it it's
44:05
got a murder mystery as well I definitely want to play that um yeah
44:09
solid recommendation in fact I'd say probably better
44:12
than any of the Telltale games that came out last year as well probably like the
44:16
best narrative game like sort of narrative episodic game of the year yeah
44:21
and and it was just fun because the stakes you know in the in the stakes are
44:26
so high generally in those Telltale Games and in those episodic games like
44:30
you don't make the right decision you'll die like or someone will die whereas in
44:33
this the stakes were so low there was this real it was just this very Placid
44:38
um they were low but they mattered like they mattered yeah they it was still
44:42
this ongoing suspense but you were agonizing over some very small decisions
44:46
and I think that's quite a a great premise for a game yeah um look let's
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got us some messages and Say [Music]
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Goodbye
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well that brings us to the end of another show Carlo and Jenna thanks for
45:06
coming on hey it was a pleasure yeah it was great um as always you can follow us
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45:13
want to find out about our next bonus stage lot of gifts lot of great times
45:17
got of laughs yeah um we haven't officially sort of announced it yet but
45:22
we are doing an RTX after hours show on January 23rd if you're in Sydney come
45:28
along to that uh we're we're still finalizing guest but there's a very good
45:33
possibility we're going to have some cool should I say special
45:38
guest yeah yeah that's as vague as we're
45:42
going to get by saying it but slowly um so basically keep tuned to the uh to the
45:48
old page till then we'll play you out with threshold from the Journey
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you guys next week bye h