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You Stole Cotton Candy from the Rainbow Police · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This week on Yo Gabble Gabble.
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  Speaker 3: If you think your babysitter is drinking on the job
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  Speaker 3: and bringing boys over the house during the day, can
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  Speaker 3: you see her for all of seven hundred dollars We'll
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  Speaker 3: find out on Judge Rawls And.
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  Speaker 4: If you missed out on the first thirteen years of
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  Speaker 4: your daughter's life, can you just get her back?
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  Speaker 1: Judge Matchett tell us us real people, cases make justice.
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  Speaker 2: This is Joe Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, that was a real downer. Well it's a
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  Speaker 1: real downer.
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  Speaker 3: Now I've got my case is not that much of
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  Speaker 3: a downer, but the way it unfolds is a down Okay,
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  Speaker 3: brand there were I should have.
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  Speaker 4: Seen the writing on the wall early on, but there
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  Speaker 4: was enough in the opening that made me go, maybe
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  Speaker 4: this isn't all just about a kid.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes that the titles on YouTube are very confused. But
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  Speaker 3: it'll be like you stole cotton candy from the Rainbow Police,
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  Speaker 3: and then you get into the episode and it slnes
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  Speaker 3: out the Rainbow Police.
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  Speaker 1: You know, your long lost dog.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally you'll sometimes the I get sucked in
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  Speaker 3: by the title and then I get I get ahead,
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  Speaker 3: but I.
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  Speaker 1: Will say this about the case. Uh, it's interesting and
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  Speaker 1: it's not something that we've tackled here on the show.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a lot of fun here at Yogabbo Gabble.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go first and we'll tackle that. Welcome to What
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  Speaker 3: It's a show where you and I brand we love
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  Speaker 3: the courtroom drama on the television, and we okay and
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  Speaker 3: we watch. We each watched one case and we tell
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  Speaker 3: the other one about it. They try to guess the verdict.
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  Speaker 3: That's the whole show. It's really Funreezy leaves a review
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  Speaker 3: on the Apple Podcast. I went back to Judge Rawson.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest what happens in this court room today.
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  Speaker 3: I don't over or understand it, and that's not what
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  Speaker 3: raw is known for. So let's get right into it.
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  Speaker 3: Ruth Marcus has a I need to speak to the
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  Speaker 3: manager haircut and she is suing Lisa Sandford for seven
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars. Ruth says, I hired Lisa as
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  Speaker 3: my babysitter. She's acted completely irresponsibly. I have two boys
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  Speaker 3: five and seven years old, and I'm a pe teacher.
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  Speaker 3: But we had to do we ended up having to
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  Speaker 3: do summer school. We had to teach during the summer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what pe is being taught during the summer.
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  Speaker 3: That is what I got. Lisa says, she offered me
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  Speaker 3: full time this summer, which is awesome. I just finished
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  Speaker 3: my freshman year of college. I'm studying psychology. Her boys,
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  Speaker 3: Ross says, so five and several boys like pretty rambunctious,
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  Speaker 3: and Lisa goes, actually, no, they didn't go outside. They
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  Speaker 3: weren't allowed to. They weren't active. They literally play video
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  Speaker 3: games all day long. And she's a gym teacher, but
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't allow them to go outside. Ruth then says,
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  Speaker 3: my house is on a busy street when we're not
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  Speaker 3: I don't allow others to take them out. Now. Whenever
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  Speaker 3: Ruth starts to talk, Lisa interrupts regularly, and it's important
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  Speaker 3: part of this case. Okay, She's like she has a
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  Speaker 3: massive back like a huge backyard. It's completely She's like
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  Speaker 3: literally just trying to talk. Every time Lisa keeps interrupting,
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  Speaker 3: and finally, Ross, who's been like ma'am, ma'am, finally goes,
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  Speaker 3: are you allergic to the word stop? M He's like,
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  Speaker 3: I've had enough please stop.
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  Speaker 1: This is not his first case of the day. No,
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  Speaker 1: he's a grumpy.
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  Speaker 3: Ruth says, yes, they play video games during the day
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  Speaker 3: because when I get home, we do a lot of
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  Speaker 3: stuff outside and that's just that's just how we do it.
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  Speaker 3: Lisa continues to interrupt, Ross gives her a lecture about
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  Speaker 3: helping and hurting. Do you think what you're doing is
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  Speaker 3: helping or is it hurting? This is something I do
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  Speaker 3: with my children. I was like listening to roscoing, is
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  Speaker 3: that what I sound like when when my kid keeps
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  Speaker 3: mouthing off? I go, hey, do you think that's helping
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  Speaker 3: you to get to do what you want? Or hurting
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  Speaker 3: you tube from getting to do what you want? And
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  Speaker 3: obviously Lisa says it's hurting.
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  Speaker 4: And uh.
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  Speaker 2: Then Ross gets back to Ruth again. What was the plan?
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  Speaker 2: Why when Lisa was there?
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  Speaker 3: Uh? Ruth says, well, Lee, they're very young, so they
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  Speaker 3: need constant supervision. And she's been very irresponded, how young
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  Speaker 3: five and seven? So you've had kids those ages I
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  Speaker 3: have them now.
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  Speaker 2: Currently.
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  Speaker 1: They play video games all day, all day and then
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  Speaker 1: all day yes in the afternoon. Yeah, that's said. What
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  Speaker 1: is that six hours of video games? I have a
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  Speaker 1: hard time believing those because they're playing video games all.
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  Speaker 3: So Ross says, how she being irresponsible? Ruth says, she's
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  Speaker 3: been stealing my liquor. Lisa's like, oh boy, this is like, no,
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  Speaker 3: I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't anticipate that.
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  Speaker 3: Ross tells her to be quiet again. She you know,
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  Speaker 3: she He's like, and then oh she he tells you
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  Speaker 3: to be quite twice more than he goes sit down.
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  Speaker 3: He just makes her sit He makes Lisa sit down.
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  Speaker 3: So then Ruth goes, So, I have a liquor cabinet.
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  Speaker 3: I barely drink. I drink on occasion when I have
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  Speaker 3: people over. I noticed a lot of my liquor missing
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  Speaker 3: out of the bottles. I had almost a full bottle
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  Speaker 3: of vanilla vod Kaid open at one time. Bottle was
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  Speaker 3: almost empty. Ross says, have you ever seen her drink? No?
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  Speaker 2: Have you she ever smelled like alcohol?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: Ruth says, my boys always told me that she had
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  Speaker 3: a special drink during the day. Lisa says it was coffee.
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  Speaker 3: Ross says, I told you to sit down. She's like,
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  Speaker 3: back in her seat.
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  Speaker 1: It's coffee.
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  Speaker 3: So Ruth and says, honor, it was a Thermois it
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  Speaker 3: did look like coffee, it did smell like coffee, It
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  Speaker 3: never smelled like booze. But my thought was that she
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  Speaker 3: was taking the drinking the coffee and then filling the
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  Speaker 3: thermost with booze to take.
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  Speaker 2: Home in the evenings. That's what I think she was doing.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, obviously, don't steal from the people that
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  Speaker 4: are you know, paying you to.
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  Speaker 2: Do all right, not bad, not bad? Yeah, yeah, that's college.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want her drinking around the kids if you're
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  Speaker 4: taking some home for lamists.
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  Speaker 3: Little something something for the old. Uh So, Ross says,
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  Speaker 3: what are you saying? Do you think she's under the
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  Speaker 3: influence of alcohol watching the children? Rid says, I never
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  Speaker 3: smelled alcohol on her, but my kids would say that
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  Speaker 3: she had men over to the house and she even
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  Speaker 3: took them into my bedroom. God knows what's going on there.
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  Speaker 3: She even posted on social media bragging about having men
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  Speaker 3: over to the house.
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  Speaker 2: And I have proof.
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  Speaker 3: She shows a picture of Lisa on Facebook and it
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  Speaker 3: says I can't wait for my boo to pick me
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  Speaker 3: up from babysitting. Okay, Ross says, how is that proof?
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  Speaker 3: This isn't proof at all. Rid says, I believe my
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  Speaker 3: children would they wouldn't lie to me. He says, that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: That still doesn't make this proof.
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  Speaker 2: This is nothing. Yeah, that's just her right, He lets
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  Speaker 2: he lets Lisa stand back up. He's like, I'm giving
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  Speaker 2: you one more chance.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: How old is Lisa?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Lisa's are gonna be sophmore in college? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Probably nineteen or twenty Uh, Lisa is said big energy.
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  Speaker 3: I brought my boyfriend inside the house one time, and
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  Speaker 3: the reason is because he was my ride every day
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  Speaker 3: I work nine to three. He picked me up at
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  Speaker 3: three every day. But the problem was Miss Marcus told
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  Speaker 3: me she would never be late, and she was late
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  Speaker 3: almost every day. Okay, Ros says, were you ever late?
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  Speaker 3: Ruth says more, yes, and more often than I thought
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  Speaker 3: I would be late when I started the summer job.
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  Speaker 3: And Ross says, so your transportation was your boyfriend? Lisa
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  Speaker 3: said yes, and most days she was late close to
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  Speaker 3: an hour. But one night she didn't get there till
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  Speaker 3: eight pm, and so I brought him in the house
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  Speaker 3: because he was sitting out in the car in the
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  Speaker 3: hot sun. I hope she's compensating her for those extra hours.
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  Speaker 3: Ross looks at Ruth and says, did you compensate her?
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  Speaker 3: Says is that true? Ruth says, yeah, I've been an
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  Speaker 3: hour late before. Usually it's ten or twenty minutes. She's exaggerating.
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  Speaker 3: Did you compensate her for that? Ruth says no. Ross
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  Speaker 3: says why not. Ruth says it wasn't in our original agreement.
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  Speaker 2: Oh come on.
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  Speaker 3: Ross then says, why were you not comping compensating her?
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  Speaker 3: If you were late off and once you saw this
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  Speaker 3: was a pattern, what did you do to compensate her
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  Speaker 3: as the law requires? Riz says, I told her I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't pay her any more than three hundred dollars a month.
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  Speaker 3: Lisa interrupts Ruth again. Lisa, at this point, I want
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  Speaker 3: to give you money.
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  Speaker 2: Lisa. Ross looks at her and goes, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: You were hurting, He goes, help me, help you stop talking,
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  Speaker 3: help me help you. If you interrupt again, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to lose the case. If you interrupt again, you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: lose the case. Do you understand me. She says, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you're on Lisa. Ross gets back to chastising Ruth. You
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  Speaker 3: don't see a problem when not compensating someone for their time.
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  Speaker 3: You knew she didn't have her own transportation. Riz says, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but there's a bus stop close by. Ros says, if
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  Speaker 3: you knew she didn't have her own transportation and you expect,
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  Speaker 3: did you expect the boyfriend? Did you just sit in
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  Speaker 3: the car for hours? Ruth says she could have just
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  Speaker 3: called him after I got there. Ros says, this is
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  Speaker 3: really inconsiderate. Do you just think about what you're saying
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  Speaker 3: for a second. You're late, you're not paying her for
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  Speaker 3: her time, and you would rather her sit and wait
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  Speaker 3: for a ride once you decide to show up. Why
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  Speaker 3: are you suing her for money that you owe her.
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  Speaker 3: Ruth says, she's negligent. She's not supervising my children as
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  Speaker 3: much as they need while she's doing god knows what.
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  Speaker 2: Lisa says, that's a lie. Ross is ready to rule.
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  Speaker 1: What was the money?
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  Speaker 2: Seven and fifty dollars for what? We don't know? I
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  Speaker 2: would assume booze. I have no idea. Was Lisa counter
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  Speaker 2: sewing her? Nope, I.
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  Speaker 4: Ruth is gonna get the money because Lisa couldn't control herself,
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  Speaker 4: and I couldn't be more upset about it, like honestly, Lisa.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that Lisa would continue to do this job
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  Speaker 4: after having to stay twenty forty sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Eight hours, it was five hours late. Yeah, is really something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, also thirty she's getting paid three hundred a week.
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  Speaker 3: That's ten bucks an hour for two kids. Yeah, that's hysterical.
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  Speaker 3: They just play video games. They play video games all day,
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  Speaker 3: all right, Yeah, give me the bad news.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This was the tough maybe one of the toughest ones
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  Speaker 3: I've ever watched. Ruth is so clearly a monster. Lisa
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  Speaker 3: is so clearly right, but she can't. I've got a
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  Speaker 3: child who when he grows up, he's going to advocate
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  Speaker 3: for justice and be the best like fighter for people
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  Speaker 3: in the world. But he doesn't know when to stop.
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  Speaker 3: He just doesn't know when. And Lisa doesn't know when
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  Speaker 3: to stop, and literally ross when she says which is
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  Speaker 3: a lie, he closes his eyes like this, like he
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  Speaker 3: puts his hand just like you did. And she said,
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  Speaker 3: you're honor I'm sorry that was the last time, and
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  Speaker 3: he goes, it's a shame. You don't get to decide that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what did I say would happen if you interrupted one
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  Speaker 3: more time? You don't get to decide that. What did
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  Speaker 3: I say would happen. If you interrupted one more time,
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  Speaker 3: judgment fall, the gavel will fall in flavor in favor
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  Speaker 3: of the plaintiff, seven hundred and fifty dollars. We still
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  Speaker 3: don't know why. We don't know why that money goes
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  Speaker 3: to her. She robbed this poor girl blind. But this
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  Speaker 3: girl couldn't just let the thing play out. She was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Ruth was digging her own gras, yes, and then Lisa's
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  Speaker 4: over there being.
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  Speaker 1: Like I could dig one quicker, yes, exactly, robbing her
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  Speaker 1: from her shovel.
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  Speaker 2: It was brutal.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough out there.
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  Speaker 3: Gang. You think she was drinking, I don't, okay, I
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  Speaker 3: think she was above bored this woman. It's a pretty
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  Speaker 3: good idea, Ruth Marcus. You can picture what she made
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  Speaker 3: the babysitters that we have a regular basis hermus I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't even be upset. Oh, just ask if you want
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  Speaker 3: to take home? Yeah, no kicking, we got whatever, just alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Judge Hatchett.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go, Judge Hatchett.
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  Speaker 4: Edna Brown is suing Gabriella Porch for two thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Judge Hatchett starts with Gabriella and she says Gabriella, You
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  Speaker 4: and you and Edna's son had a child together, and
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  Speaker 4: Edna has been the primary caregiver for years for the child.
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  Speaker 4: Why why is that? She says she had a tough childhood.
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  Speaker 4: She got pregnant when she was sixteen. She tried for
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  Speaker 4: eight months to care for the daughter, but it was
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  Speaker 4: too much. She slid into drug addiction. This was a
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  Speaker 4: problem for a long time, which caused quite the rift
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  Speaker 4: between her and her daughter, Jessica, who is now thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: So from eight months old to thirteen, she's been there
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  Speaker 4: in the care of Grandma Edna. Okay, okay, she says.
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  Speaker 4: Three years ago, she got clean, got a job, got
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  Speaker 4: an apartment. She now even sponsors others in a a
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  Speaker 4: we love to see it. Recently, within the past few months,
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  Speaker 4: she began to re enter her daughter's life more and more.
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  Speaker 4: Now she felt like she had her life back together
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  Speaker 4: and she wanted to be more in basically a part
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  Speaker 4: of her life, and so she decided that she would
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  Speaker 4: have Jessica come and.
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  Speaker 2: Live with her.
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  Speaker 4: So she asks what Edna's reaction was when you suddenly
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  Speaker 4: showed up one day and wanted to be a part
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  Speaker 4: of Jessica's life, and she.
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  Speaker 3: Says, well, before, there's like legal custody here, right, someone
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  Speaker 3: has legal paperwork on this child.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I believe, So we could get into that. I
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  Speaker 4: believe since ed you know, had her from eight months
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  Speaker 4: to thirteen, you would think think she has the guardianship
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  Speaker 4: as the kid got it. So she says that she
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  Speaker 4: responded about how you would expect. She's hesitant, obviously, but
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  Speaker 4: she's never once tried to take Jessica away from me
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  Speaker 4: or keep Jessica from me, and she never tried to
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  Speaker 4: be Jessica's mom. Edna explains that if Gabriella can be
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  Speaker 4: a parent, that's what's best for Jessica. A grandparent can't
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  Speaker 4: really be a parent. I can do my best to
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  Speaker 4: care for her, and then she begins to get choked up.
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  Speaker 4: She clearly cares a lot here. So Judge Hatchett says
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  Speaker 4: Edna has done an amazing job. She asks her where
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  Speaker 4: her son is, which is a great question. Where is
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  Speaker 4: the father of this child and she says, unfortunately, my
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  Speaker 4: son and Gabrielle are two peas in a pod. He
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  Speaker 4: never paid much attention to Jessica and has since moved
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  Speaker 4: to another state. And started another family man.
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  Speaker 1: So neither parent has.
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  Speaker 4: Ever paid child support, Hatchet says, or Hatchet asked, which
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  Speaker 4: is confirmed? And she she says, Edna, I wish she
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  Speaker 4: would have come to me when the child was eight
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  Speaker 4: months old. I could have helped you out. So why
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  Speaker 4: is Edna here? Why is she suing her step or
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  Speaker 4: daughter in law? Yeah, but they were by law, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the daughter the mother of her granddaughter. She would like
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  Speaker 4: for Gabriella to take responsibility and stop treating Jessica as
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  Speaker 4: her friend and begin to be her parents. And I
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  Speaker 4: thought maybe taking her to court asking for some money
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  Speaker 4: would give Jessica the nudgs she needs to begin to.
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  Speaker 1: Be a parent.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to put her further in the whole financial
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  Speaker 4: so Hatchet at. So Hatchett asks, So, like, what is
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  Speaker 4: the two thousand dollars for? What is Gabriella?
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  Speaker 2: She says.
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  Speaker 4: Gabriella is using things that I gave Jessica for herself.
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  Speaker 4: So she says, I bought Jessica an ipat and an
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  Speaker 4: iPhone to keep in touch with Jessica, which Gabriella doesn't
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  Speaker 4: really let us do, and she's always using those devices.
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  Speaker 4: Also gave Jessica an antique bracelet which belonged to my
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  Speaker 4: grandma and gave it to Jessica to wear. And then
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  Speaker 4: I see Gabriella wearing it. Hatchet says, is that true?
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  Speaker 4: And Gabriella says, yes, I have worn the bracelets. Obviously
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  Speaker 4: I'm not wearing it now, which I love that she said.
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  Speaker 4: And then she says, but yes, I share things with
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  Speaker 4: my thirteen year old daughter. Hatchet says, what about the iPad?
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  Speaker 4: What about the iPhone? And she says, I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 4: that I use it. I'm not the primary user. I
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  Speaker 4: would say that we split things about fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 2: OK.
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  Speaker 1: I use those devices about fifty percent of the time.
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  Speaker 2: She says.
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  Speaker 4: She can't afford unlimited text and call and so sometimes
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  Speaker 4: she will use Jessica's phone for.
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  Speaker 2: Her own use. Hatchet says, this isn't.
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  Speaker 4: Really about the two thousand dollars, though, you're concerned about
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  Speaker 4: your granddaughter, and Edna says, yes. When Jessica was with
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  Speaker 4: me for those thirteen years, she went to school, she
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  Speaker 4: was active after school, playing sports.
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  Speaker 1: She would volunteer in the community, and now she's not
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  Speaker 1: doing any of that anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And Hatchet says, she's not going to school, and uh,
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  Speaker 4: thank you, and she says, Jessica, Gabriella, remember I can
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  Speaker 4: take a recess and I can call the school.
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  Speaker 1: You are under oath.
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  Speaker 4: And Gabriella says, my daughter takes a sick day from
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: time to time, but I don't believe it to be
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: any more different than any other kids. Occasionally, once or
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  Speaker 4: twice a month, sometimes she takes a mental health day.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: And she says, a mental health day. Why does she
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: have a mental health day, judge, and she says, she
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: basically acknowledges the fact that she has caused her daughter
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  Speaker 4: a lot of trauma and she's trying to give her
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  Speaker 4: daughter time to deal with that.
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  Speaker 1: As she needs to. Edna does not agree that it
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: is once or twice a month.
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  Speaker 2: She can find more.
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  Speaker 4: Hatja says, so in three months, you're saying that she's
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: missed what six days? And Gabriel says, well, it's like
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: six to ten. Okay, she had the flu once and
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: so it brought it could be more. And she says, okay,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: well what about the activities, what about the sports? And
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: she says, well, she quit the sports because children at
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: that age they change interest. But she does a debate
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: team now and she has that after school, which she supports.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: She asked Gabriella about how it came to be that
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Jessica went to live with her, and she explains that
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: after visiting more and more in the past three years,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: it seemed like it was time. Edna then says, well,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: you would make plans to show up, but then you
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: wouldn't show. Gabriella says, well, what about Halloween?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: What about what about Halloween? About the one time you
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: can't be like, what about the time I did show up? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you can't do that, And she says, wasn't I there?
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  Speaker 3: Edna says for thirty minutes? Yes, you were there on Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: Judge Hatchett says, this is a big chance for Jessica.
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  Speaker 4: She's been with Edna for since she was eight months old,
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  Speaker 4: and I commend you for getting help and being sober
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  Speaker 4: for these three years. Drug addiction robs. You have the
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: most pressures, gifting in your life, all that good stuff.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: She then begins to promote a book she wrote, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so shout out to Judge hatchet She talks about how
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: this is a tricky situation for kids oftentimes when they
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: are in a stable environment for a very long time.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Ripping them out of that stable environment, even if it
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: is to go and live with a with the birth parent,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: can potentially do more harm than good to the brain.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And she, you know, quotes some studies and whatnot, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: so she says, I committee for wanting to be a
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: part of Jessica's life, but I worry that suddenly taking
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: her from the safe space can do serious her to
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Jessica psychologically.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: And she is now ready to rule there's no winning here, Like,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know why this is the So I think
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: hatchet is a real deal court room. This is a
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: real deal court. This deal is like you don't do this.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Like this stuff is handled in custody court. It's handled
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: in very specific court in each state and county. There's
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: no judgment here that's going to get to the root
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of this. I don't know what the two thousand dollars does.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can give somebody money because they're
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: not using an iPad the way you want them.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: To use it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Sure, Look, there's only sixty days of school roughly in
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: three months, sixty two or three max, with no holidays.
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  Speaker 3: If you're missing ten days that is a problem every
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: three months, and that's how much you can miss in
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: a whole year. That's exactly right. Hatchet cannot give the
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: kid back. That's not within her jurisdiction to do. She's
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: going to give a very firm lecture on this, but
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: she's not going to get any money. So Judge Hatchett
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: decides that she's going to give her the two thousand dollars.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Interesting, So she says, I'm going to award you. I'm
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: going to award you the two thousand dollars.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And here's why. I think that it is the least
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that you could do.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: You never paid child support, and so I'm going to
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: make you feel a little bit of that. I don't
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: want to do more harm for you. I feel like
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: you are really trying here. I'm going to give you
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: twenty four months to pay her the two thousand dollars
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: in a matter of principles, under one hundred dollars a month.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm going to do that.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And then she goes and she just hugs everybody.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: She goes down, she hugs Gabriella and she gives her
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: this like inspirational speech. She goes and she hugs Edna
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: and she's like, you have more than earned your angel wings.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Therere we go, and then she asks the two of
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: them to hug, which they do and they're both crying,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and it's a whole thing.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know why Grandma Edna chose this court on
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: TV to handle this situation. I don't know why. It's
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: a good question, but she did.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And here we are.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Uh, it's it's a tough one, you know. I think
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: that Jessica, I'm sorry. Gabriella truly is trying. Obviously, I
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: see that. I feel like a better course of action
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: would have been some sort of like, I don't know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: let's try to work together. Like Gabriella has never never
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: been a mother problem and she's getting a child at
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: thirteen that has a lot of.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Can't come up with a family plan. No, she can't
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: do that her job. Why it's weird.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: She needs some sort there needs to be family where
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: they check in and they have hold each other accountable
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: and they go to these and that's what they need
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and they're not getting that here.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: What a sad time.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: It was a really sad time.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: So but we did it and us cases that was
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: pretty fun.
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  Speaker 2: We did everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do two happy ones.
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