Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Paige Brogan, Principal CalAIM at Blue Shield of California
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- 0:47This is Gracelyn Keller with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:49podcast, and we're recording live at the 2024
- 0:52fall payer issues roundtable.
- 0:54I'm joined right now by Paige Brogan,
- 0:57who is the principal CalAIM at Blue Shield
- 1:00of California.
- 1:01Paige, thanks for being here. We'd love to
- 1:03have you briefly introduce yourself as we get
- 1:05started.
- 1:06Thank you, Grace.
- 1:07Again, my name is Paige Brogan, and I
- 1:09am from the Blue Shield California Promise Health
- 1:12Plan, where I am responsible for implementing
- 1:15our medical transformation work, which is really what
- 1:17CalAIM, California Innovating and Advancing Medical is really
- 1:21all about. It's a program designed to fundamentally
- 1:24address the whole person needs of our medical
- 1:26population,
- 1:27as well as to streamline
- 1:30the
- 1:31bureaucratic process for payers, for providers, for community
- 1:34based organizations,
- 1:36and, ultimately the community.
- 1:38Wonderful. Well, thanks for being here and let's
- 1:41start our conversation with growth goals. So from
- 1:43improving member experience and expanding value based care
- 1:46to controlling costs, payer executives have ambitious growth
- 1:50goals for the rest of this year and
- 1:51looking ahead into 2025.
- 1:53So in your role, what is your top
- 1:54priority right now and how are you planning
- 1:56to get there?
- 1:58So it's interesting because when we think about
- 2:00value based models from a Medi Cal perspective,
- 2:04we really for us, this is something that's
- 2:06so critical because we really wanna make sure
- 2:08that our most vulnerable members are really getting
- 2:11care that is based on value.
- 2:14And I think for us, it's really
- 2:17better engagement with our providers,
- 2:19ensuring that they really understand what value based
- 2:21models of payment look like, and really making
- 2:24sure that we are aligned both from a
- 2:27provider perspective
- 2:28and a payer perspective,
- 2:30what that means for both of us and
- 2:32what it ultimately means for our members.
- 2:34I think we will continue to
- 2:36grow, and I think our contracting teams will
- 2:39continue to evolve
- 2:40as they work with our providers
- 2:42to
- 2:43really encompass a true value based model. But
- 2:46we're not there yet. I think we're getting
- 2:48there. And I'm excited to see kinda where
- 2:50that takes us into 2025 and beyond.
- 2:53Wonderful. And going off of that at an
- 2:55industry level, how would you describe the biggest
- 2:58barriers to effectively serving and engaging members? And
- 3:01what opportunities do you see for larger scale
- 3:03improvements? And then how are you applying all
- 3:05of that to your strategy?
- 3:08Well, Medi Cal traditionally has been a very
- 3:10difficult population to engage. Part of it is
- 3:12knowledge, just understanding that these benefits exist for
- 3:15this vulnerable population.
- 3:17And then another piece piece of it is
- 3:19once they are enrolled in the program, making
- 3:21sure that they're aware of the wide array
- 3:22of benefits that are available to them. Medi
- 3:25Cal is not just strictly clinical services. It
- 3:28encompasses things like medically tailed meals,
- 3:31housing
- 3:32supports,
- 3:34community supports, such as substance use
- 3:36disorder support, behavioral health.
- 3:40And I think that
- 3:42at Blue Shield Promise,
- 3:44we really are a leader and an innovator
- 3:46in connecting with our communities.
- 3:48And I think that's our strength in member
- 3:50engagement, member retention,
- 3:53and also member utilization because we are there
- 3:55in the communities.
- 3:56We are engaged with our members, and we're
- 3:58helping them to understand
- 4:00the wide array of opportunities that they have
- 4:03to improve the health of them, their families.
- 4:06And then beyond that, acting as peer advocates
- 4:09for other Medi Cal members. You know, I
- 4:11think about one of the sessions that I
- 4:13heard at this year's conference
- 4:15around substance use disorder. And one of the
- 4:18things that the moderator brought up was how
- 4:20powerful it is to have a peer who's
- 4:22been through and has lived experience.
- 4:25And that person can then act as a
- 4:26conduit
- 4:27to assist other members within the community that
- 4:30are part of the Medi Cal population
- 4:32to really inform
- 4:33and create a successful recovery
- 4:35outcome.
- 4:37And shifting gears just slightly toward leadership,
- 4:40keeping pace in today's health care
- 4:43landscape is challenging. So what is a piece
- 4:45of advice you'd share with peer leaders to
- 4:47grow their businesses while keeping members top of
- 4:49mind?
- 4:51Well,
- 4:52I don't like to think of Medi Cal
- 4:53as a business. I like to think about
- 4:55it as a program that's really designed to
- 4:58capture the needs
- 5:00and provide support and services for
- 5:03our most vulnerable members.
- 5:05I think from a provider perspective,
- 5:08if you're thinking about growing your business, you
- 5:11really need to think about how you're collaborating
- 5:13with plans
- 5:14to really prove and show that what you're
- 5:17offering is both congruent with the needs of
- 5:21the population,
- 5:22but also
- 5:23very respectful
- 5:25of health equity outcomes, very respectful of consideration
- 5:30of how they're thinking about health equity in
- 5:32their delivery of their practice.
- 5:34I think that is so important. I health
- 5:36equity is not a buzzword that's gonna go
- 5:38away. It is critical to how we think
- 5:41about it and how we serve our members,
- 5:43thinking about social determinants of health, and really
- 5:46thinking about how are they utilizing
- 5:49data,
- 5:50both the ingestion of data and then the
- 5:51sharing of data. I think that for any
- 5:53provider, that is really key to success in
- 5:56the health care landscape.
- 5:58And as we round our conversation out here
- 6:01today, are there any parting words you'd like
- 6:02to share on the podcast?
- 6:05I would like to say thank you for
- 6:06this opportunity, not just to talk to you
- 6:09for a bit, Grace, but also for the
- 6:11opportunity
- 6:13to speak to some incredibly
- 6:15intelligent, well informed, and passionate leaders in health
- 6:18care. I think Becker's is just a wonderful
- 6:21forum for innovation, for conversation,
- 6:24and to build ideas that we can use
- 6:27moving going forward.
- 6:29Wonderful. Well, Paige, thanks for joining me today
- 6:30on the Becker's health Care Podcast. Again, we're
- 6:33live at the fall 2024
- 6:35payer issues round table.