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'Shooting yourself in the foot' As Trump alienates allies, EU invites Canada to be associate member · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: President Trump may want Canada to become the 51st state,
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  Speaker 1: but our northern neighbor might be joining another team instead,
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  Speaker 1: the European Union. The EU has invited Canada to begin
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  Speaker 1: the process of becoming the bloc's first associate member, a
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  Speaker 1: powerful indication of how thoroughly Trump has scrambled traditional alliances
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  Speaker 1: and alienated longtime friends. I want to bring in Rick Stengel,
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  Speaker 1: former undersecretary of state in the Obama administration, former member
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  Speaker 1: of the Biden transition team, former editor of Time and
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  Speaker 1: MSNOW political analyst. He has had all the jobs and
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  Speaker 1: MSNOW senior national security reporter, David Rode. What does this
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  Speaker 1: actually mean, Rick Stengel?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what.
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  Speaker 2: Trump for the Europeans and the Canadians, the Europeans being
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  Speaker 2: more robust, the Canadians being more robust. I wouldn't do
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  Speaker 2: it the way Trump has done it because the way
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  Speaker 2: he's doing it, basically, If you had an object of
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  Speaker 2: destroying your economy by increasing prices from your largest trading partner,
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  Speaker 2: the EU, and your third largest trading partner, Canada, that
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  Speaker 2: would be a way to destroy the economy. That is
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  Speaker 2: in effect what he's doing. But he's forcing them to
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  Speaker 2: find other trading partners. And by the way, Canada is
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  Speaker 2: now trading more with China. The EU is trading.
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  Speaker 3: More with China. We're trading less with China. So it's
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  Speaker 3: a just.
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  Speaker 2: It's damaging to the American economy. It's shooting yourself in
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  Speaker 2: the foot. It just doesn't make sense. But it's not
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  Speaker 2: bad for them.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it's fair to call it a realignment?
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  Speaker 3: I do. And that's what Mark Carney has made clear
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  Speaker 3: since last year.
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  Speaker 4: And the benefits for Canada, they're going to start joint
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  Speaker 4: projects with Europe on the most important things, artificial intelligence,
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  Speaker 4: semiconductor manufacturing and some defense things. Clearly, you know, the U.S.
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  Speaker 4: is a better partner in all that. But I think
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  Speaker 4: it's Carney is making a bet here. Donald Trump's going
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  Speaker 4: to be in office for two more years. And I
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  Speaker 4: think he's taken on this mantle of kind of leading
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  Speaker 4: the break with Trump. And this is a concrete example.
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  Speaker 1: You have our allies here. I mean, I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know which word to use at this point, but distancing
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  Speaker 1: themselves in part because the president is picking trade wars
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  Speaker 1: with them, but also because he got into a war
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  Speaker 1: of choice with Iran and then tried to bully all
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  Speaker 1: of our allies. You have some new reporting on another
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  Speaker 1: Iranian attack on a U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Ally. Yeah, it was really serious what happened over this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: It's two different proxies that Iran had attacked Saudi Arabia.
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  Speaker 4: One was an attack on this key pipeline. It runs
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  Speaker 4: from east-west across Saudi Arabia and allows them to export
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  Speaker 4: oil away from the Strait of Hormuz through the Red Sea.
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  Speaker 4: That was hit by drones fired from Iraq, Shiite allies there.
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  Speaker 4: And then secondly, in southern Saudi Arabia, the Houthi rebels attacked.
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  Speaker 4: that are also backed by Iran, they took control of
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  Speaker 4: like a port that will allow them to shut off
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  Speaker 4: the Red Sea. That's the other. There's two waterways here.
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  Speaker 4: That's the other waterways. These are game changers. The Chevron
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  Speaker 4: CEO warned that this is a new moment, that this
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  Speaker 4: is going to block up to 4% of the oil
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  Speaker 4: sales coming out of the region. And prices are soaring.
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  Speaker 4: I just looked, according to AAA, there's a new record
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  Speaker 4: today for diesel.
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  Speaker 3: It's at $ 6. 31 today.
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  Speaker 4: That's for all the trucks that, you know, send us
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  Speaker 4: food and everything else. So Iran has found a new
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  Speaker 4: way to pressure the U.S., attack Saudi Arabia, and most importantly, MBS,
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  Speaker 4: the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have spent
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  Speaker 4: huge amounts of money on American military hardware. He called
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  Speaker 4: Trump twice when these attacks happened and said, please bomb
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  Speaker 4: the Houthis in the south. And Trump said, no, he's
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  Speaker 4: not going to help them.
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  Speaker 3: What does that say to you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's, you know, alienating the Saudis is not a
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  Speaker 2: good thing for Americans. I mean, Mohammed bin Salman and
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  Speaker 2: the Saudis, they don't really want these kinetic wars. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: even though they have been, you know, fighting with the Houthis.
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  Speaker 2: As David said, that east-west pipeline was going to be
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  Speaker 2: a way of getting more oil out that can't go
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  Speaker 2: through the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranians are shrewd. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's like you. They oil pops up here.
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  Speaker 3: They bomb it. Oil pops up there. They bomb it.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they do.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if we're going to talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: but our whole ballistic missile system is so eroded.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's I mean, despite the fact what the
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  Speaker 2: administration says and the defense secretary says, the defense spokesperson says.
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  Speaker 2: are basically our supply of ballistic missiles, whether it's Tomahawks
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  Speaker 2: or Todd missiles.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's down by 50 percent.
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  Speaker 2: We fired like 50 percent of them in the first
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  Speaker 2: six weeks of the war.
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  Speaker 3: And they say that's not a problem.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a problem necessarily against Iran, but it is
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  Speaker 2: a problem if the Chinese start doing something with Taiwan.
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  Speaker 2: We're supposed to be able to fight two front wars.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot do that now with our missiles depleted, which is.
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  Speaker 1: Which is what military leaders have been trying to warn
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  Speaker 1: the administration of.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that using utilizing our resources as we have
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  Speaker 1: in the Middle East has diminished. diminished our ability to
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  Speaker 1: meet our other demands.
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  Speaker 4: So there was great Wall Street Journal reporting there was
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  Speaker 4: an attack on an American base in Jordan, and the
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  Speaker 4: Iranians are doing this intentionally to shoot down the incoming
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  Speaker 4: Iranian missiles. Sixty Patriot missiles were fired. Lockheed Martin made
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  Speaker 4: 600 Patriots last year.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Six hundred. So 10 percent of those were used just
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  Speaker 4: in one attack in one night trying to stop these
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  Speaker 4: Iranian missiles. So we do have a major shortfall. The
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  Speaker 4: Pentagon and Pete Hegseth deny it, but it's a huge
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  Speaker 4: problem for the U.S. And the Iranians know it, and
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  Speaker 4: they're just doing these attacks to get us to fire
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  Speaker 4: these expensive missiles.
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  Speaker 3: And make the shortage even worse.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a huge problem for perception of the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: vis-a-vis our enemies and adversaries. When you're firing a $ 3
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  Speaker 2: million Tomahawk missile to shoot down a $ 30, 000 drone.
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  Speaker 3: That can't last. It's like they look at the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're this brawny, you know, have too much weaponry.
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  Speaker 2: And now they look at us as like a paper tiger,
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  Speaker 2: to use Donald Trump's expression.
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